psyker-class

[plush glacier]

ogryn has 3 by default

very jealous

...not that I go down...

...ever...

[half turtle]

yes i've never taken damage in my life

what's toughness

[plush glacier]

what is this damage you speak of

[feral verge]

also in my experience, the worst psykers ive played with tended to be the male seer (the my beloved guy)

for whatever reason

and the best psykers i've seen, tended to be the male savant (african guy)

[half turtle]

he's so ✨wacky✨

[plush glacier]

100% of male enforcer psykers are the best

oh wait that's me

what a coincedence

[feral verge]

enforcer?

[half turtle]

i really like the savant

[pearl lion]

Loner best boi

[plush glacier]

oh is it called savant? I always thought it was called enforcer

[half turtle]

he's also like, the only darktide personality who isn't a weirdo or an asshole

[plush glacier]

because he doesn't shut up about being an enforcer

[half turtle]

well other than the ogryns

[plush glacier]

all ogryns are good boys

[feral verge]

the #1 best psyker i've seen in PUGs, was a male savant named Bear

dude only takes 80~ dmg in high intensity damn

every game p much

[half turtle]

dang

i like to take my damage in 150-hp increments because i fall off a ledge or blow up

[plush glacier]

one last thought in defense of surge -it's very good against dog pack modifier

[half turtle]

That's true

[plush glacier]

all that being said, trauma is the best because it feels very good to bully ogryns with it

[half turtle]

Although trauma/purg do ok too because the dogs tend to stack up

[feral verge]

here's one game i had with Bear

i've had 2 or 3

he ran purga and dueling sword

[plush glacier]

I find void to be highly effective against dog packs too

assuming you get the right spot

[feral verge]

i haven't seen ihm since the update, i wonder if he's running deimos now

[orchid nest]

surge with illisi is plenty good. the damage on it is fine vs flak and carapace too, you just have to actually build for the damage and not stay stuck on the staff the whole game

[plush glacier]

yeah I think with the release of illisi, surge got a buff essentially

since it's the only staff that can't really deal with hordes

[half turtle]

But being stuck on staff is why I play Psyker 😢

[feral verge]

they mentioned a patch coming out this week, sometihng about looking at the weapons (like thammer)

i hope they buff surge

[plush glacier]

force axe pls

[feral verge]

give me a reason to use it

[olive ember]

… surge sucks at them ngl

[half turtle]

I'm excited for thammer buffs

[plush glacier]

idk if that exists in warhammer but I want it

[orchid nest]

I agree with that sentiment but I still feel like a psyker swinging around a force sword

[feral verge]

i play psyker like a flamer zealot now

feels awesome

[half turtle]

If only you could be a trauma zealot

[plush glacier]

all zealots are trauma zealots

if you think about it

[olive ember]

Just play zealot then smh

[feral verge]

zealot is boring

[plush glacier]

let em play how he wants

[feral verge]

that said, zealot is the only other class i've taken to level 30

i enjoy it, but it's brain off for me

cuz its piss easy

[half turtle]

Same

[plush glacier]

I don't want to think about ammo so I play psyker exclusively

[half turtle]

Got my vet to 15 and got so bored of it

Ogryn at like 11

[plush glacier]

I just like spamming "I need ammo" with a staff because that's fun

[feral verge]

i do the same thing lmao

people start recognizing me for it

[orchid nest]

the quelling and warp unleashed was a good buff for surge too relatively. seems like people are still stuck on warp resistance but you want your BB to still be good and you can quell so fast it's better with quietitude anyways

[feral verge]

"oh you're Mai, i've played with you before. i remember because you spam 'i need ammo'"

[rose dagger]

Apparently gun psyker is the meta now, which is sad

[half turtle]

Dang are you Mankar from the Mankar gaming forums

[feral verge]

yep, right from Mankar Camoran Gaming yt channel

[plush glacier]

Mai sounds familiar, we may have played together

[feral verge]

what's your name in game?

[plush glacier]

same as discord

[feral verge]

i only play damnation

[plush glacier]

ditto

[feral verge]

hmmmmm

probably have run into you

i think it's really cool running into ppl from this server

[plush glacier]

agreed

I never want to play gun psyker

but I'm glad they exist

because when I ask people in the lobby what staff they're running

and they say gun

it makes me laugh

[feral verge]

@vagrant frigate was wrecking yesterday with autopistol psyker

i ran into him, in game

hech is pastor-zulul

high int shocktroop damn

674k dmg

[plush glacier]

high int shocktroop is so fun

big boy pants

[feral verge]

best mode

[plush glacier]

I like that if your team isn't good enough you lose pretty quick

so you can move on

[fresh reef]

absolutely love even games like these. feels like a real team effort

[plush glacier]

fuck your profile got me hahahha

[fresh reef]

[feral verge]

i've played with you before @fresh reef

i drive a 2013 honda civic btw

[fresh reef]

based

[orchid shadow]

How is Autopistol Psyker? I have a good grey one I've been thinking of upgrading, but always felt weird about bringing a gun and taking ammo

[feral verge]

op

another day without unstable power 4

[orchid shadow]

I love it on my Veteran, but they get extra ammo. Any issues with running out?

[grizzled jasper]

not at all

[feral verge]

you'll run out sometimes, sure

[half turtle]

bullet staff

[feral verge]

in high int damn, definitely on shocktroop

but bring the illisi sword and you're gucci

[orchid shadow]

Urg, although I'm not looking forward to finding another autopistol with the golden blessing combo again.

[digital loom]

third week in a row that melk has no psyker items in his shop

just autoguns and axes for days

[olive ember]

@near wyvern btw what’s the TTK with a deimos against monstrosities like plogryn and BoN

[zenith zealot]

surge 4, gives 2 shots on crit hit, i got it on a voidstrike staff

but question is, does it apply for secondary action

[feral verge]

yeah

but its meh unfortunately

warp flurry and transfer peril are best in slot blessings on void

[zenith zealot]

well, i got surge 4 and barrage 3

[supple skiff]

not from what I've seen

[feral verge]

it works on rmb

[zenith zealot]

i was planning on replacing barrage 3 with transfer peril

[feral verge]

its on trauma where surge 4 blessing is broken

[feral verge]

barrage is not optimal

you definitely should

[zenith zealot]

yea

[feral verge]

it sucks, pretty much useless

[zenith zealot]

then i'd get a chance to double transfer peril

i thought that'd be good

i assume the go to for trauma is surge and warp nexus?

[feral verge]

nope

warp flurry and rending shockwave

warp flurry is best in slot on all staves pretty much

unless you're doing some funny build, warp flurry should always be on

[zenith zealot]

i thought surge is broken on trauma tho

[feral verge]

it is

[feral verge]

.

[zenith zealot]

hm, well i guess i'll try to get a secondary trauma with surge and warp nexus

[feral verge]

bruh lol

[zenith zealot]

my current trauma has warp and rending

[feral verge]

surge is not working on trauma

that's what im saying

[zenith zealot]

oh i see

[feral verge]

it only works on lmb

[zenith zealot]

well surge is "shots"

trauma rmb doesnt shoot any "shots"

[feral verge]

and crit damage is very minimal on trauma, making warp nexus not very good

[zenith zealot]

i see

i'll just replace it the moment i get a flurry

[olive ember]

Yeah so trauma bad we get it

May I introduce you to the surge staff

🙂

[feral verge]

if you want the best trauma staff, put rending shockwave and warp flurry on it.

[zenith zealot]

not interested in surge staff due to it being mostly limited to ccing primary targets and dealing dmg to very less targets, but im trying to get one once i finish up with my newest purge staff

just in case i ever need to pull it out for doggo modifiers

[olive ember]

disgust

Look at these… these DPS players

[zenith zealot]

wheeze

[olive ember]

The same type of people to stand in circles and die so they can get that last hit of dmg on the boss before he transitions

Fucking dps players smh

[zenith zealot]

haha

what would u suggest i get on purg staff for blessings?

terrifying barrage is definitely fine right?

[feral verge]

warp nexus and warp flurry

no

terrifying barrage is terrible

on every staff

[supple skiff]

the best way to play support is to kill things before they can harras your team mates

[feral verge]

its useless, does next to nothing

[zenith zealot]

huh, i thought for sure barrage is fine especially for dealing with hordes

[feral verge]

warp nexus and warp flurry are best in slot blessings for purga

[zenith zealot]

especially cuz purg is near melee

[zenith zealot]

alrighty

[feral verge]

purga and surge already suppress enemies by default

that's why terrifying barrage is useless

because it doesnt do/add anything meaningful

[zenith zealot]

got it

recon lasgun, well this is the psyker channel but i have a lasgun on my psyker so who cares

dumdum or headhunter, which is the better blessing to earn?

both of em are tier 3 on this lasgun

but the lasgun itself is shxt

so i wanna just save a blessing

[plush glacier]

what are guns

[zenith zealot]

i guess u're right, what are guns

[olive ember]

Barrage was a placeholder cuz flurry sucked

And now flurry got unsucked

[supple skiff]

flurry getting unsucked was the best thing to happen to my psyker

[autumn smelt]

i assume thats a mod

[supple skiff]

t4 on a void staff and you can delete hordes

[autumn smelt]

i cant use mods my pc is too shit so i have to run the game on geforce now

[fresh reef]

Ya

[zenith zealot]

what even is new flurry's stats

like what's flurry 3 and flurry 4's stats

[fresh reef]

Have you tried running the potato config?

[autumn smelt]

is there a special thing you can do or something

cuz ive ran it at like min everything and it ran at a throttled 20-30 fps

[fresh reef]

@autumn smelt https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1

you must choose
god awful graphics, or no mods

[autumn smelt]

as long as i can visually distinguish whats what

bad graphics 100%

[fresh reef]

give it a shot then, see how your setup handles it

[supple skiff]

pretty sure t4 is 10% charge reduction per stack and t3 is 7.5.

[autumn smelt]

plus ill be ridding myself of the small minute latency cloud gaming will always have

[supple skiff]

not around my pc though so that might be wrong

[zenith zealot]

alright thanks

[gloomy obsidian]

omw to brain burst my pc

[supple skiff]

what I can say is that a void with north of 70% charge stat and full stacks of t4 flurry charges in a second

and its glorious

[pearl lion]

Jesus, 3 melk rotations, 1 staff total

[lunar hollow]

melk shop has a shit tier obscurus with bloodthirsty on it

god i wish it wasnt nerfed

[rare furnace]

Is 3d person mod good?

[olive ember]

Lucky

You got a staff in just 3 rotations

[pearl lion]

lmao vet on the other hand

[olive ember]

Bruh

[zenith zealot]

it do be like that sometimes

psykers are discriminated after all

just gotta roll with it

[dusk sierra]

Anyone use blazing spirit on force swords? Just saw this in mr milk's shop

[feral verge]

blazing spirit is funny/meme

you will kill everything before you get to see it proc

so it's not that effective

[olive ember]

It’s a meme but then again it’s a low roll in the stat so

If you want funny meme get it to get that t4 blessing

But don’t actually buy that sword to use it

[fringe garden]

With just blazing spirit and wildfire you will see enough spread to get warp charges decently often from ascendant blaze

[supple skiff]

you know, maybe that blessing would be decent if it triggered soulblaze in an aoe on the target on crit, but as it stands now I feels like its only there to ruin rolls lmao

[zenith zealot]

do they apply to multihits?

or just to the first target hit

[fringe garden]

It'll apply to just 1 per crit

[zenith zealot]

if they give a variation of the force sword that specializes in cleaving, that'd be great

[spice veldt]

applies to all targets hit in your swing

[zenith zealot]

basically what i said then

get a cleaving variation of force sword

[spice veldt]

the problem being that blazing spirit forces you to pick a crit blessing, and that means giving up slaughterer which gives you increased cleave

[ionic frost]

yay low-int damnation

i collect 210 plasteel, 1 guy collects 45...

255 total for mission

[sharp shoal]

is the voidstrike staff any good

[feral verge]

yes

[zenith zealot]

voidstrike staff is not the best but its good

[cyan notch]

what misison

[sharp shoal]

its better for ranged then purg

[zenith zealot]

well, not to say its not the best

[sharp shoal]

purg is just horde

[zenith zealot]

but yea better range\

[feral verge]

best blessings by far are warp flurry and transfer peril

[sharp shoal]

my psyker is just now lvl 16

i only started recently cause tired of waiting for the console drop

[spice veldt]

i personally am not much a fan of the voidstrike

[sharp shoal]

i hate eac

but i wanted to play darktide

[spice veldt]

at the very least, EAC is currently disabled

[feral verge]

dont spend any crafting materials

just stockpile them all until level 30

it's a huge waste to craft stuff

until level 30

[dusk sierra]

like meme yeah thats what I was wondering

[sharp shoal]

i figured

[feral verge]

just use empra's gifts and buy stuff from the store

[sharp shoal]

same as vermentide on hoarding

[dusk sierra]

voidstrike is dope but I've had more success at damnation w purgatus. Surge staff does not click for me

[sharp shoal]

Surge is cc

Pure cc

It stuns

[supple skiff]

void is handy for dealing with ranged trash especially if you have flurry

[sharp shoal]

Good if you got high dps backup

[supple skiff]

can do pretty solid horde clear up close but its a lot more involved that purge

[kindred sand]

Is precognition good?

[feral verge]

no

precog is really bad

but unstable power is pretty good. 2nd best blessing on force swords

[supple skiff]

was it always weakspot and crit?

[spice veldt]

pretty sure yeah

[feral verge]

precog is bad because weakspot and crit damage boosts are really low in this game--they functionally do nothing

[kindred sand]

Terrifing barrage is good for purgatus right?

[feral verge]

and it only procs on successful dodge, so oyu have to dodge an attack first. the game can be very choosy on what counts as a dodged attack or not

[feral verge]

nope

terrifying barrage is pretty much useless

especially on surge and purga staves, because those staves already suppress enemies

so it's literally useless

but warp flurry is really nice on purga

[kindred sand]

=/

[feral verge]

you want warp flurry and warp nexus on your purga staff

the burn stat and cloud radius stat are the most important stats on purga

you want a burn of 76% or higher, for the most optimal purga staff

[kindred sand]

Hmm... tyvm for the tips

[feral verge]

np sibling

[autumn smelt]

not sure whats going on

its now at 30-40 frames

but i look at task manager and pc usage is 50% and under for all parts

[pearl lion]

hmmm

Worth upgrading?

[feral verge]

yee

def

[pearl lion]

My current one has better stats but only t2 perks

[autumn smelt]

yeah i just headed into a mission with these settings

it still can throttle hard depending where im looking, let alone its harder to tell whats going on bc of the complete lack of any particles whatsoever

[autumn smelt]

you can see the fps counter at the top

[spice veldt]

very smelly fingertips

[autumn smelt]

truly a psyker moment

[supple skiff]

at a dispensery rn ^ thats a fucking mood

[vagrant frigate]

the roll :)
the blesssings :(

[cyan notch]

still decent

slap warp nexus or flurry on

[vagrant frigate]

i want both

then i will never run it anyways

[pearl lion]

Whats the best perks for VS, I assume flak and maybe unarmoured?

[digital loom]

still dont have a decent deimos

[obtuse moth]

does +ranged damage apply to soulblaze? idk which perk is worse...

[spice veldt]

+dmg perks on your weapon apply to soulblaze as long as you're holding that weapon out

[graceful grotto]

What should I change?

[pearl lion]

Whats the best second perk for VS? Flak and ?\

[orchid shadow]

Fatshark needs to replace +experience on curios to something like +crafting mats. So many of my curios existence have ended at blue.

[leaden thunder]

does warp battery penance require your actualy max charges or just 4?

[orchid shadow]

Max charges. But if I recall correctly it doesn't have to be 300s straight

[obtuse moth]

ah, so theres no difference to '+ranged damge' and +damage'? cause you can roll both wordings. i was worried specifically about soulblaze applying to the former

[spice veldt]

possibly because it doesn't affect the staff bonk

either that or it's overly specific wording from fatshark

[obtuse moth]

but its confirmed to apply to soulblaze?

[spice veldt]

yup

[obtuse moth]

thanks!

[spice veldt]

same goes for power buffs on other weapons like from Slaughterer on the force swords or Pinning Fire on the autopistol

[obtuse moth]

ya unstable power slaughterer is crazy XD

[fallow meadow]

I have heard that warp res is dump on FS, true?

[sharp shoal]

Illsi or deimos?

[fallow meadow]

Illsi. I don't have one now and this is what Melk offer me today.

[sharp shoal]

I got a deimos and illsi

[forest coral]

yep

since patch, warp quell and peril damage scaling works well with illsi

[sharp shoal]

Illsi is better vs hordes but deimos is better for singular dmg I thought

[forest coral]

so you spam specials to procc high peril for damage boost and free quietetude toughness regen

so having a lower warp res works toward that playstyle

[pearl lion]

correct

BTW what perks for VS? Flak and ?

[sharp shoal]

Ima keep a copy of each then

[forest coral]

Vs?

[sharp shoal]

For different runs

[pearl lion]

void strike

[sharp shoal]

correct

[forest coral]

Flak and unarmoured imo

its got woefully bad scaling against other elite armor types

[sharp shoal]

Deimos has flak illsi has carpace

Illsi has unarmored to

[fallow meadow]

You will at least want to revere that lol.

[sharp shoal]

Only hard to kill elite is crusher

The others are less of a struggle

[forest coral]

with deimos

you can kill crusher in around 2-3 headshots on heavy thrust

[sharp shoal]

That's nice

[forest coral]

with illisi

if you special and jump attack their head

around 2-3 hits as well

With unyielding perk, you can one shot bulwarks in damnation

its dumb af

[vagrant frigate]

lol just had three racist guys kick me at the end of the mission

and tell me they were gonna do it at the beginning

nice community

theyre in here too

i can @ them lmfao

same usernames

[twilit badger]

Do it

[fierce sinew]

kind of on you for staying then, no?

[vagrant frigate]

i was messing w them

idc about mission completions lol

surprised they actually did it

the power of a 3 stack lol

[fierce sinew]

yeah when you're the one rando with a 3 stack you're basically playing in their game

[vagrant frigate]

ya lol

couldnt care less lol i just find humor in it

theyre actually like getting off on kicking me lmao

[fierce sinew]

this community do be humorous

[vagrant frigate]

good for them

[fierce sinew]

will give it that

[vagrant frigate]

i was being insanely annoying tbh

[ruby plover]

[vagrant frigate]

i just get more gas lighty and annoying when people react negatively]

if u ever get in a game with pastor-zulul

das me

[fierce sinew]

to be fair stopping one random from trolling is exactly the purpose of the votekick function in the first place

[vagrant frigate]

tbf i was carrying

just being goofy on vc

[fierce sinew]

I've been in a 3 stack that kicked people for vc rp before

[vagrant frigate]

LMFOA

do private game at that point

[fierce sinew]

some fella really telling us in a put on accent how he wanted to smash the dh

and woke it

[stone quest]

I'm late to the party on this, but you're not wrong.

[fierce sinew]

to the shadow realm so fast

[stone quest]

However, Illisi gets to both kill 10 Poxwalkers with 1 charged heavy and do 1k+ headshot damage for literally free with zero perk/blessing support

[fierce sinew]

3 stack basically is a private game with the benefit of the chance at a decent random

if they're bad/annoying you just boot

4 stack obviously preferable

[stone quest]

That 10 Poxwalkers goes up to 20 with just vs. Infested, which is dumb, but even dumber than that is it gets to oneshot everything in the game if you specialist it properly. This includes even Reapers if you have vs. Unyielding and vs. Elite as its perks, plus the relevant blessings.

Deimos is actually relatively balanced compared to this.

[cyan notch]

how are you getting 10 but not 20

[sharp shoal]

A mauler tried to chain axe me from behind

[stone quest]

It still has a hitmass budget, but its so high that it's effectively the same as Power Sword, pretty much

Except even more busted, somehow.

But what baffles me is that a single perk boosts that Poxwalker count on one swing by double.

Which makes

no sense

at all

[vagrant frigate]

illisi 1shots reapers?

[vagrant frigate]

?

msg above

[stone quest]

If have fullstack UP + Slaughterer, and have vs. Unyielding and Elites as your perks, you can oneshot a Reaper with a charged Heavy on a headshot.

[vagrant frigate]

oh

[stone quest]

It's actually so fucking dumb.

[vagrant frigate]

6 stacks u mean

cuz it buffs warp dmg?

[sharp shoal]

Is the kills giving warp charges any good

[vagrant frigate]

i rlly dont see it 1shotting reapers but i believe u

[cyan notch]

something is wrong with ur math

[sharp shoal]

I'm debating zealot or psyker as my first 30

[obtuse moth]

zealot is a lot easier, but transitioning from zealot to psyker is tough. less so the other way around

[sharp shoal]

I've messed around with all 4

I played a lot of psyker in other 40k stuff

I like the warp tornado ability

[forest coral]

zealot to psyker is a good thing to do imo

[pearl lion]

26 Voidstrike staves of blue or higher, still no t4 perks

[forest coral]

teaches you how to melee and dodge properly before going into the funny warp end

[pearl lion]

blessings

[sharp shoal]

Actually

I don't have to dodge corpses

[hollow current]

It helps make it so you don't have to pay as much attention to keep them up, though the other two are solid options too

[ruby plover]

switching from zealot to melee psyker was pain

[forest coral]

sure

[obtuse moth]

i notice new psykers who came from zealot drop like flies because zealot is a lot more forgiving with melee

[ruby plover]

mfw my dodges go half as far and i dont have thy wrath be swift

💀

[sharp shoal]

I do better with melee psyker then zealot

[fierce sinew]

psyker melee is honestly braindead, you have functionally infinite stamina combined with some of the best pushes

[forest coral]

psyker is better with push attack weapons and has much better stamina regen. also new fs kinda going brr

[obtuse moth]

new fs is definitely brrr yea

[sharp shoal]

Hammer Is going to be much better soon

[forest coral]

mhmm

[olive ember]

Cope harder

[forest coral]

I honestly cant wait

[fierce sinew]

they should just revert

[olive ember]

I mean if you use the deimos then your dodges go like 1.5x and are still infinite

rip horde clear tho

[fierce sinew]

zealot didn't need that fat L out of nowhere

uncalled for tbh

[forest coral]

I dont think u understand tho derp

1.1 to .6 animation delay change on specials

is fuckin massive on hammer

[cyan notch]

i think its better to buff the default behaviour

rather then screw over randoms who cant abuse the tech

[fierce sinew]

if they bring the default behavior in line with what was executable with the cancel before then that's fair too

[forest coral]

ye

tbh the weapon is still mostly counter intuitive

[fierce sinew]

I don't consider learning execution to be abuse

[forest coral]

but its got its niche

[fierce sinew]

as long as the thing does what it did before (whatever input are required) I'm sure they'll be happy

[cyan notch]

input required is press all keys on keyboard

[fierce sinew]

that would be easier to macro than some I've tried lel

[cyan notch]

input required is to alt tab 4x in a row

[fierce sinew]

now that's meta

we need a blessing that gives you a huge (but decaying) power buff from when the window is active

[nimble burrow]

melk telling me to stop using force swords

[cyan notch]

low crit low finesse eh

[nimble burrow]

ikr melk cmon man just give me only godrolls

smhmy head

[fierce sinew]

melk loves to waste random 4 rolls on shit you'll never use

[tired jackal]

its not massive

[stable silo]

is ranked 4 deflector worth it with melk moonies ?

[fierce sinew]

in my shop rn

[hollow current]

Left is new, right is current. Once I find unstable III or IV I figure I'll throw it on the new one and probably switch out infested for Maniac.

[stable silo]

not atm i suppose but maybe if they fix the bug

[fierce sinew]

still no warp nexus on purg to be seen btw

[forest coral]

its enough time to hit > dodge or block away from most damage instead of being stuck for over a second

[tired jackal]

thats kool but its not massive, the tech was way better cus instant

[fierce sinew]

because of how peril block works the gain from higher tiers of deflector is less than any other blessing in the game I'm pretty sure

[forest coral]

Rip tech

[fierce sinew]

you already block nearly forever, sometimes literally if you have an environment you can dodge in

[forest coral]

[quasi pier]

That brings up something I've wondered for awhile.. is block cost reduction the same thing as block efficiency?

[primal plume]

how good are these blessings?

[cyan notch]

good

[primal plume]

which should i replace?

[olive ember]

Replace specialist imo

The specialists you rly care about are all maniac anyways

[hollow current]

specialist to flak probably.

[olive ember]

I’d say specialist to crit chance

[hollow current]

also yeah you got the BiS blessings for surge

[olive ember]

Or even unarmored tbh

[primal plume]

surge already does extra damage to armoured and flak right?

[hollow current]

ye it does

[primal plume]

stick with this or go for a different perk altogether?

[fierce sinew]

this is precisely why you want flak and why unarmored is dentge

do you want 25% of small number or big number?

[primal plume]

so stick with flak then

[fierce sinew]

roll it to +25 though

no amount of perks will make surging unarmored not trolling

[primal plume]

or should I try for crit

[hollow current]

yeah damage to unarmored with surge isn't very appreciable compared to flak. Be really good at killing one enemy type then meh at one and okay at another.

[fierce sinew]

crit damage is calculated in a way that makes that much worse than you think

much much worse

[hollow current]

ranged crit/weak spot damage is awful.

[sharp shoal]

Just killed 12 dogs with melee as psyker

[hollow current]

never take it.

[sharp shoal]

In a row

[primal plume]

yisssss

didnt take long

[fierce sinew]

ez

[primal plume]

i think this staff is easily my best one

in terms of raw stats

[clear linden]

trying to figure out which is better overall between these two surge staffs

[fierce sinew]

crit/weakspot bonuses don't give n% bonus damage to hits of the relevant variety, they give n% of the difference between those hits and normal hits as bonus damage

so if you were doing 100 on a normal hit and 110 on crit, +10% crit damage is bringing that up to 111

[hollow current]

yeah charge rate is your only real weak stat but even that only accounts for 1/10th a second difference so basically 95% perfect asides from that and 20% maniac vs 25%

[fierce sinew]

is dogshit virtually always is what I'm saying

[hollow current]

Best you can realistically hope for.

[clear linden]

will the t4 warp flurry negate any downsides for having an overall lower charge rate?

[hollow current]

yeah the right since you can pair warp nexus and warp flurry

[clear linden]

great also how does crit affect the surge?

since dmg isnt really the point of it

does it affect something else like the purge?

[hollow current]

for perks crit chance can be a option but it's that or flak I'd take flak because it's more useful imo.

crits against flak and carapace are pretty big but the base chance of the staff + warp nexus make critting often anyways.

[nimble burrow]

all weapons are better if they have more damage

it has a crit damage stat, so logically you follow it with crit chance for better scaling

[vagrant frigate]

this is a sad day for the people who want to heal with their bullets

[gusty latch]

What the actual fuck

Fellas I rolled deflector 4 going from green to blue

[cyan notch]

yea u can get t4s on blue from consecration now

[hollow current]

rare

[gusty latch]

That's excellent news

[ruby plover]

you can even find t4s on blues in the shop 🥴

[cyan notch]

ive only seen one t3

[ruby plover]

thank you mr. servitor man

i havent hit anything higher than t2 on blue consecrate myself doe

[stone quest]

That certainly is a Consecrate of all time.

[cyan notch]

t3s are pretty common on consecration

[bold flint]

gimmie gimmie

[steel egret]

I roll greens to blue all the time in the hopes of surge.

[bold flint]

oop wrong sword

[gusty latch]

hot damn bloodthirsty sounds like it'd kill for the aoe force sword

[ruby plover]

it ends up being not quite as great as it sounds

but its certainly not trash either

[lunar hollow]

i wish bloodthirsty still had the multiple seconds of just pure crittage

[ruby plover]

i'd rather have a high tier unstable power (i do not have a higher tier unstable power)

[vagrant frigate]

i'd rather have a high tier unstable power (i do not have a higher tier unstable power)

well its an okay staff

[near wyvern]

You'd be better off upgrading to orange, especially on 370 base weapons

[near crow]

Got this Deimos, what perk should I swap out on it and what should I swap it for?

[vagrant frigate]

unstable is the best on deimos

do whatever brother

[near crow]

I know unstable, I'm just not sure what to do with the perks.

[near wyvern]

Crit damage and weakspot are garbage so change that to maniac and you will be able to one shot mutants with 2nd heavy and some warp charges + peril

[vagrant frigate]

oh

id do maniac

crit damage may be a t4 perk roll but its useless

lol :(

[gusty latch]

Am I missing something? Isn't unstable just up to 5% power based on peril?

Sounds like it's super negligible

[near wyvern]

@near crow

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

[near wyvern]

It stacks 4 times

[summer prairie]

you need flak to one-shot bodyshot maulers with l1 special

[gusty latch]

oho

cheers

[spice veldt]

just fatshark description-itis

[near wyvern]

On 20/40/60/80 peril, you get the +X% per stack

[summer prairie]

it also helps with other things a bit, I think the mutant one-shot isn't worth it over flak

[near wyvern]

Oh yes it is

Mutant one shot is the best

[summer prairie]

if it's coming for you it doesn't really matter

[gusty latch]

Dope, I'll aim for deflector and unstable

[near wyvern]

Maulers are not the one that fuck up your team

[summer prairie]

and if it's not, you probably aren't landing your h2

when they miss their charge they are dead anyway

[cyan notch]

ideally youd have flak and maniac but id probably take maniac if i had to choose

maulers are kinda whatever although bodyshot light is really nice

[near crow]

What about the purg staff?

Which perks should I be aiming for

[frozen glacier]

Opinions?

[fierce sinew]

Never use crit damage

[frozen glacier]

Yeah, crit doesn't seem very useful on the staff. The rest of it looks nice tho. lol

[fierce sinew]

Yeah solid blessings, reroll the crit damage to flak and you're chillin

[frozen glacier]

I think I'll do that, thanks! I just got Psyker to 30 so am looking for some decent weapons

[near wyvern]

Purge doesn't really care. Strong options are:

• crit chance, universal damage boost because double stacks on crit
• flak, already high flak damage but will absolutely melt Maulers
• maniac, dreg Ragers and all flamers
• unyielding, Bulwakrs Reapers and Monstrosities

Things you should avoid on Purge:

• crit damage
• weakspot damage
• pox & groaner damage
• sprint eff
• stamina
• carapace

[fierce sinew]

purg perks kind of depend on what's on the melee weapon you're pairing with it

[near crow]

Still working on getting my psyker kitted, so with a deimos FS at the moment

Got this thing

[near wyvern]

Terrifying barrage is garbage

[near crow]

Yeah

It's trash on literally everything, but I have nothing to replace it with atm

[near wyvern]

Luckily Purge is good regardless of blessing and perks

[fierce sinew]

crit rate always good, but if you have maniac/unyielding on your melee weapon you're not getting much extra value on the staff, your soulblaze gets boosted by whatever's in hand at the time

[near wyvern]

You could take a white purge to Damnation and it will perform fine

[fierce sinew]

literally do that for leveling 25-30

[near crow]

this is my sword

[summer prairie]

unyielding is pretty meh yes for boss damage as once you are at max stacks it's still better to switch to bb or your meleee

unless it's like a horde+boss situation

[near wyvern]

I like to run crit chance and flak on mine, kills ranged a bit quicker

And the added bonus of melting maulers is funny

[fierce sinew]

I run crit chance flak on the staff and unyielding on the melee for the above reasons

[near wyvern]

This sword will penetrate a mutant

[kind wing]

How does Unstable Power work? Is it really just a 5% Increase or does it stack itself up to a cap based on Peril?

[near crow]

[near wyvern]

+X% that is listed at 20/40/60/80 peril, so at 80+ you get 4 times the value listed

[fierce sinew]

wild that they haven't fixed that tooltip

[near wyvern]

Nope

[vagrant frigate]

most blessings that have a low power boost

are per 20 stamina

or peril

[near wyvern]

@kind wing you can find blessings and feats that we know differ from the description (or have a behaviour not apparent from the description) in the pinned steam guide "The Psyker Atheneum"

[fierce sinew]

I mean it's honestly wild that the patch that changed the thresholds didn't have somebody go over the text of the affected items

[summer prairie]

it's probably a localization issue

[fierce sinew]

they knew what they were, they listed some in the notes

[near wyvern]

So they updated it in Swedish?

[vagrant frigate]

there are still grammar errors everywhere in ENGLISH let alone other foreign languages

[summer prairie]

they are waiting for their translator contractors

[near wyvern]

G sus

Can't they speak English themselves?

[summer prairie]

?

they won't do english either until other languages are done

[cyan notch]

they have to get the translations for all the other languages

[fierce sinew]

do they though

[stable silo]

uguys think i should swap warp flurry on my purge to chanelling ?

currenty runing flurry/nexus

[fierce sinew]

no

Flurry nexus is bis

[stable silo]

thats waht i thought but someone was saying channeling is better

[steel egret]

Not really, cost less to do green to blue

[near wyvern]

Nooooo flurry Nexus is best you can have

[cyan notch]

i use channeling and nexus

its up to you

[fierce sinew]

they're a baboon, help them get the insects out of their hair and escort them back to the enclosure

[near wyvern]

And how many T4 blessings have you gotten at green to blue?

[summer prairie]

I don't find flurry super useful on purg, but it's still a slight dps increase

[steel egret]

Plenty

[summer prairie]

but focused channeling can be comfier

[near wyvern]

I get around 1 in 5 at orange, still haven't seen a single T4 at blue

[stable silo]

this what im running currently

[steel egret]

Okay? Ive gotten a bunch

[summer prairie]

purg spends more time spending the charge than actually charging and you often aren't in a situation where you even get to 5 stacks before everything is dead

you can do quick charges first but that wastes more time on animations too

[near wyvern]

A bunch is how many per green to blue?

[fierce sinew]

the consecrate odds are just dogwater all around honestly

[near wyvern]

The point of having flurry is to reduce the down time in the middle which is the only time you can get hit

[steel egret]

I dont keep count every now and then, unfortunately you get duplicates.

[fierce sinew]

I've gotten slightly more (I think) at blue but not by an amount that even remotely approaches significance

[summer prairie]

you can stop charging at any time when necessary though, not optimal but avoids the situation

[near wyvern]

So flurry kinds does what channeling does but also increases your DPS and lowers your peril costs

[cyan notch]

channeling lets you hit trade more and be more aggressive

[near wyvern]

It's a bad idea to trade at damn

[cyan notch]

just flaming a horde sure whatever u dont really need anything

im trading with shooters not melee dudes

[summer prairie]

shooters interrupting your charge is very annoying yes

[near wyvern]

A couple LMB mixed in and you don't have to trade

[cyan notch]

doesnt cover all scenarios that id use channeling in

and besides since im constantly quelling 2 ticks from 100 flurry kinda is useless there

[potent echo]

Does terrifying barrage work? I've had it on for my purges and I had never tried one without it

[summer prairie]

it basically doesn't work on purge

[potent echo]

Like everyone gets suppressed anyway, and also if they die to the blaze it doesn't proc soo

[summer prairie]

DoT doesn't seem to trigger it and I couldn't get the direct damage to trigger it either

and yes, even if it did work, the main suppression is much more effective

[potent echo]

I think I've seen the icon pop up a few times

Not sure what it does exactly though

[summer prairie]

it's possible that it's a grinder issue

[potent echo]

Like it gives you a suppression aura for a few seconds?

[summer prairie]

It just adds some suppression when you kill something

not over time

[potent echo]

Funny blessing

But yea flurry isn't that useful, and barrage is questionable

What else would you put on there besides nexus

If only there was a charge time or something weirder that trades range for angle or vice versa

[summer prairie]

run&gun adding more mobility while charging would be nice

[potent echo]

I usually dodge slide while charging so running wouldn't really make me much faster

[summer prairie]

you can do that twice and then you are already out of dodges

it's still pretty slow anyway

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[summer prairie]

I don't mean as a defensive thing

[potent echo]

If only you can sprint while flaming lol

[cold geode]

rng providing sprint speed in addition to its current blessing would be nice

[rose lily]

anyone been using Quicken and have some things to say about it?

[potent echo]

I used it for 2 runs, feels like you really want either of the other two options

Even for peril intensive staves like trauma, you need the warpcharge stacks to hit certain breakpoints

So you don't want to be throwing them away, and the power cool down coherency is good enough for you to get your cd down anyway (and it helps the team)

[summer prairie]

if you could use it keep flurry stacks up, maybe it could be decent but you can't. Either a complete redesign is still needed or make it quell 100%

[spice veldt]

and the quelling buffs that got bundled in with the patch kind of reduce the relative impact of quicken

[potent echo]

That would be interesting

[near wyvern]

Surge 4 or Sustained fire 4 for the meme?

LMB trauma let's go

[hollow current]

can't wait to see how this gets bricked

[ruby plover]

precog 1 uncanny 3

[worn ravine]

worth picking up from melk?

[steel flame]

go for it

unstable is great on deimos along with high peril builds

you swap that melee for maniac and stick slaughter on there and it should be a good sword

[weary wasp]

Shit blessings imao

[ruby plover]

[near wyvern]

???

wdym

swap shred to anything you want, then when they fix built in deflector you can swap into deflector if you desire, swap +8% damage vs elites into +25% damage versus maniacs and let's go:

https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10

[weary wasp]

From my testing unstable power is utter garbage. It's hard to micromanage and 4% power is just that - a 4%. It barely makes any difference.

Shred can be nice with a [light, heavy, light light] combo but with armor shred blessings things tend to die in first one or two hits anyway

[wet belfry]

Do the special on deimos then click quick swap two times > repeat.

Do this till you reach the desired peril.

[ruby plover]

you know its 4% per stack right

wait did you say armor shred blessings

[weary wasp]

It's still just a 4% when you can get like 50 from head taker, or total armor ignore

[summer prairie]

sure i'll put headtaker on my deimos

[ruby plover]

well actually no 4% per stack is not just 4%

and headtaker lol

[weary wasp]

Death blow/headtaker

[ruby plover]

where do u think u are homie

[wet belfry]

This is not a heavy sword

Its the deimos force sword

[weary wasp]

Armor shred gives 4 stacks on special. 4 shots a crusher

[wet belfry]

Its a psyker weapon

[weary wasp]

Head taker, deaath blow, same gyst. 10% power per kill

[meager cedar]

They really need to fix Unstable's description to avoid this kind of confusion

[wet belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword-force/deimos-mk-iv-blaze-force-sword

[weary wasp]

Tho I think armor shred beats it by a long shot on that specific sword

Well it's slaughterer here

Same blessing, different names... For some reason

[cyan notch]

theyre not the same

[cyan notch]

headtaker is power on hit slaughterer is power on kill and deathblow is completely different what

[weary wasp]

Mh. My bad then. The gist is that it gives a lot of power o e way or another.

I think it's best used against armor, but replacing dedlector with anything g power related is also an option. I personally would not do that. Deflector helped me clutch many times, especially when it comes to shotgunner mixups

[wet belfry]

Unstable power increases at the increments of 20/40/60/80.

It increases by the x% listed at the blessing

So the max it would reach is 20 power

Fatsharks explanation of the blessing is flawed

[weary wasp]

I tested it and it felt like 4% at max, so that's where the idea came from

But if that helps with often break points then why not

[bold flint]

finally blew up on 3 elites

[near wyvern]

usntable power allows you to reliably one shot mutants, it's very reliable in that

with the 2nd heavy you can just poke and mutant is gone

and it's not 4%, it's per stack at 20/40/60/80

I have unstable 4 so that's 5% per stack or +20% when at 80+

[ruby plover]

unstable is lit

especially on illi but just generally

slaughterer is great and all but unstable is up always even when slaughterer isn't

[safe sun]

Damage stat on Purgatus only affects the staff's own damage and not soulblaze, right? Wondering if I should use this as a crafting base https://i.imgur.com/UfN7iBe.png

[summer prairie]

it's good

[bold flint]

doesnt the burn stat only affect max stacks and application rate

[safe sun]

I meant damage stat, not burn, sorry

[near wyvern]

burn = stack application rate and max stack count
damage = direct damage portion rate and damage

[bold flint]

well its got this burn intensity part to damage

whatever that means

[near wyvern]

yes which is the application rate of the direct damage

during secondary fire

[safe sun]

Yeah, basically what I'd heard is that damage is essentially a dump stat on purg and burn + cloud radius are the priorities. Wanted to confirm before I started.

[near wyvern]

quell speed is the dump stat

you simply don't need it with purge

[safe sun]

after quell speed changes you don't really need it much with anything

[near wyvern]

it's a anti horde weapon and when there is horde you are going to proc battle meditation enough that you don't need to quell

not to talk about that 80% quell is 2 seconds and 0% is 3 seconds so not a lot difference there

[summer prairie]

update by the way

[near wyvern]

the stat prio on purge is:

1. Burn & Cloud radius
2. Warp resist
3. Damage
4. Quell speed

[cyan notch]

now we wait for notes

[stable silo]

get a staff that looks at you like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1092690448310611968/image.png

but tier 4 blessings

usnure why it shared a link

[summer prairie]

they fixed deimos/illisi having a deflector built-in

[blissful mural]

god damn it

[stable silo]

really? the monsters

[blissful mural]

scumbags

anyone got any idea why that happened in the first place?

like why deflector and not another blessing

[cyan notch]

they also fixed quicken tooltip

[summer prairie]

The template files for FS variants have been around since beta and they just modified those. Back then deflector wasn't a blessing

you can still spam illisi special at least

[blissful mural]

wtf

it was supposed to be part of the sword?

why did they remove that?

[summer prairie]

What was?

[cyan notch]

didnt seem to have touched deimos stab or illisi special damage either

[summer prairie]

They didn't fix FS inner block range typo

[stable silo]

well my sword still had deflector on it cause i had a feeling it would be changed guess its unst vs slaught now i think slaught wins

[inland sand]

I think Unstable Power is the BiS blessing for Deimos

are there patch notes for today?

[summer prairie]

no

[inland sand]

what was this patch saying?

[cyan notch]

i think slaughterer is still better than unstable

[inland sand]

i don't think it is. I'm not really using my Deimos for hordes. Got the Trauma/Fire staff for that

[summer prairie]

doesn't look like there are any obvious psyker changes beyond the FS fix

[inland sand]

what I do use it for is one shotting mutants which you need some amount of unstable power and warp charges to do

I guess we're all running Deflector as optimal second blessing now

RIP while it lasted

[summer prairie]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-7/77895

[cyan notch]

i am but you dont have to use deflector

[summer prairie]

Fixed issue where Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword weapon special attack did not activate the Psykinetic feat ‘Warp Absorption’ correctly.

Fixed an issue with the Artemia Mk III Purgation Flamer and the Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff where crits would not apply correct damage and/or burn stacks on burned enemies.

not sure about that

flamer nerf

power sword nerf

Reduce number of attacks per weapon special activation from 2 to 1.

Summary: Powerswords get 1 activation default, total of 3 if running Power Cycler. (Down from 2 default and 5 with blessing)

[deft gorge]

Deployed Medical Crates now last for 5 minutes instead of 1 minute. !!!!!!!

Lower burning DoT damage from all sources vs. Flak armour from 200% to 100% this sucks for purg staverz

[vestal raven]

gun pysker rises ever more

[cyan notch]

so it seems like theyre not changing zealot f then

[summer prairie]

oh you probably want to run +flak now then

[rare sand]

Dang, well atleast I've got deflector 3 just what to get rid of now that I need it on the new swords.

[deft gorge]

las pistol psykers rise up

[rare sand]

I've still never actually run with the Las pistol once. Lol just never found an okay one in shop to snatch

[inland sand]

i love it on Zealot

[cold geode]

Deployed Medical Crates now last for 5 minutes instead of 1 minute.

[inland sand]

never played with it on Vet or Psyker

[deft gorge]

any weapon that is aimed via tactical lean should be considered very relevant and meta

[cyan notch]

Weapon special attacks on activated weapons (Chain swords, Thunder hammers, Force swords, Chain axes) now always stop on Elites, Specials, Monsters, and Captain regardless of cleave.

illisi still flies through them

[deft gorge]

Fixed an issue where some sounds, for example, from Force Staff projectiles, always played as if the listener was in a first-person view.

my immersion is finally realised

[summer prairie]

warp absorption illisi is pretty comfy but probably still doesn't make sense over quell toughness

[cyan portal]

"Lower burning DoT damage from all sources vs. Flak armour from 200% to 100%" big purgatus nerf

[cyan notch]

i mean kinda but not really

[summer prairie]

6 stacks still kills shooters

[deft gorge]

trauma staff gang

[clear linden]

What's the rec blessings for the dueling sword.

[primal plume]

i personalyl feel this will be the place where we change subclasses

[still hearth]

Imagine they nerf Psword

And make it on level with Illisi

And don't nerf Illisi

Who'd have thought

Psyker becoming the new Vet

[cyan notch]

power cycler ps still better imo

not having to jack off after each hit is huge

[idle bay]

Power Cycler is a mytth. It does not exists in the game for me 🙂

[still hearth]

I disagree.

[idle bay]

How is vet chat reacting? I'm scared for my sanity and will not go there...

[cyan notch]

[idle bay]

You can automate the process having both hands free to keep using power sword that way 🙂 Praise the Omnissia

And Sync device with pressing Special for Power Sword

[left basin]

deflector ded

😦

[idle bay]

As expected

[stable silo]

ima run crit and flak on my purger cause i like to crit

[left basin]

is morb absorption good now

[near wyvern]

it's always been good, it's just that it doesn't give you toughness when you really need it

[still hearth]

It might make you a cool battle wizard with Illisi

If they fix the fact

It doesn't work with Illisi

[near wyvern]

that got fixed

[still hearth]

Oh

[near wyvern]

haven't tested but it's in the patch notes

[still hearth]

Well then you could at least get 15% toughness per enemy

[near wyvern]

? why 15

[still hearth]

Which is nice on a weapon that can casually kill 4 enemies with just slaughterer

[near wyvern]

it's 10

[still hearth]

5% base

You have to kill enemies too

[near wyvern]

ahh right

[left basin]

i've got slaughterer 3 with peril cool

[near wyvern]

melee get's some toughness on kills, forgot about that

[still hearth]

Imagine if it was changed to just be a % per enemy hit

2% toughness per enemy hit with warp attacks

[cyan notch]

they intentionally moved away from on hit toughness to on kill only

except for blessings

[left basin]

i REALLY want critz

[still hearth]

Which was a silly decision

[near wyvern]

IMO all on kill effects are a bad design because it creates a race condition

[still hearth]

Yeah

And it also requires, y'know, enemies to kill

[left basin]

on every staff i have and every thing i have

peril crittzzzzz

[cyan notch]

yeah but theres always the backup of coherency

[still hearth]

They should just make Absorption give 10% on kill always

All attacks

[left basin]

on my epitaph there should be a mention of critzzzz

[still hearth]

Or maybe make it give you 5% when something dies around you

Just feed me your souls, heretics.

That would actually be dope.

[left basin]

purgoids dream

[still hearth]

Coherency based 5% on kill from your team

Or following the RNG love for Psyker, a 10% chance to get 30% toughness if an ally in coherency kills something

:>

Because we gotta have RNG

For reasons

[left basin]

I WANT SINGLE-TARGET BAZONG PSYKER

AAAAAAAAA

VOIDSTRIKE, DEIMOS

a staff that actually does good single-target damage that isn't surgevoid

[near wyvern]

LMAO, it wasn't even amazing when it was bugged

[left basin]

wait

[near wyvern]

IMO it could just be quell x% on repeated hits

[left basin]

exorcist is the quell feat

[near wyvern]

yes

quell x% per cahined weakspot hit (5 at T4)

[left basin]

ech

[near wyvern]

miss a head and it's a reset

so in reality you got like 5% every other attack or so

but apparently it was also bugged at times and just rewarded per hit anyways

Illisi nerf

that hurts a bit

[summer prairie]

nah

[near wyvern]

can't just cleave through

[summer prairie]

it can still cleave

[near wyvern]

oh it's just the special effect end?

*ends

[summer prairie]

that fix was intended to make the weapon special work better with those weapons

[near wyvern]

so it prioritizes them now?

[summer prairie]

I don't use those weapons but I think it sometimes cleaved through the elite and then did the big attack

[cyan notch]

yea illisi still works

its fake

[near wyvern]

ahh it's the latch on special then

the animation lock

[pearl lion]

So PS only one charge hit now. Illisi sweating in the next patch for sure

[summer prairie]

illisi down to 0 charges next patch?

[near wyvern]

why not

[pearl lion]

This is the way

[summer prairie]

it doesn't feel particularly broken with only one hit per activation

[pearl lion]

Oh yeah it'll be fine, I'm just expecting an illisi nerf now since it's so strong even when it's not powered

[near wyvern]

if they can do this in their patch notes, why they can't do it in the in-game descriptions

[pearl lion]

To be fair, illisi is strong because of warp charges and talents etc. We are built to be melee capable by design a lot more than vet

But yeah, illisi is basically just a better powersword at this point, unless the PS has power cycler

[summer prairie]

I feel like I'm critting more with purg than before, could just be confirmation bias

[near wyvern]

is before as in before patch #6 or before patch #7? Cause after they fixed the Warp Nexus stacks to 20/40/60/80 you do crit a ton more with it

[summer prairie]

Well there was this change "Fixed an issue with the Artemia Mk III Purgation Flamer and the Rifthaven Mk II Purgatus Force Staff where crits would not apply correct damage and/or burn stacks on burned enemies."

[near wyvern]

ahh

might be that then

[ember hornet]

how does it feel to have the best melee weapon now

undeniably

[near wyvern]

You mean Deimos, right?

[pearl lion]

Feelsgoodman

Zealot should have the best melee weapon

But I like psyker more sooo

[near wyvern]

No. That would make sense.

[pearl lion]

Lmao poor zealot probably has the worst melee weapons too

[ember sentinel]

Yeah illsi fun af so im ok with it being good

They have heavy sword

And TH might be pretty good now

[pearl lion]

Hsword is good, but illisi and PS have been a fair bit better imo

[lucid olive]

Does the DOT change mean that 6 stacks won't kill scab shooters anymore?

[summer prairie]

it does

[still hearth]

That's the real question

[summer prairie]

I mean

6 stacks kills

[ember sentinel]

Is illsi really the best melee weapon now? It feels more fair than pre nerf PS but maybe im just glad psyker has a good melee weapon

[pearl lion]

People are still whining about the thammer so i assume its still not OP

[ember hornet]

Illisi is super OP

[light quail]

thammer is a little better after this patch, you dont immediately lose all your health after using a charge hit from 1 ENTIRE SECOND of being unable to act

[wicked otter]

Guys, do all force swords share their blessings ? I have a doubt right now

[still hearth]

Psword is still OP though

[summer prairie]

PS with cycler is still quite a bit better dps

[still hearth]

Its just not stupid OP

Now its just normal OP

[ember hornet]

illisi has the bonus of one shotting everything

[still hearth]

Yes

If we're doing an optimal DPS challenge then sure Psword might still win out

But this game isn't just swinging sword

[ember sentinel]

Id say there at least pretty even now

Wonder if illsi gets nerfed next

Hopefully not, it doesnt feel nerf worthy but that might be my bias

[still hearth]

At this point I think Illisi/PSword is just barely fine

But only because they still haven't buffed so many weapons

They're still wack

[ember sentinel]

Id prefer buffing stuff to illsi level

/PS

[still hearth]

For a Difficulty 6 that would be nice

[ember sentinel]

Or at least in that area

[still hearth]

But atm that would make Difficulty 5 easy af

[pearl lion]

Imo how to mostly fix thammer.
Increase light attack damage by like 20% powered and unpowered
Charged heavy attack deals small aoe stagger

[ember sentinel]

Yeah esp if they gave us more shock trooper esque modifiers or difficulty 6

[summer prairie]

Surgical stacks are so quick now https://streamable.com/gvnt7o

so if you have to aim at all, you'll get them

[idle bay]

Next comm-link will be
In line with game design to waste as much player's time on getting nothing for their effort - Difficulty 6 will be consuming 50% of players rafting materials stashed upon completion, and 100% in case of failure

[cyan notch]

nice

[idle bay]

I have +10% Crit damage, +5% crit chance, t4 Surgica, and t4 weak point crit damage blessing Vraks MK III stashed just for that 😉

[near wyvern]

Kek

Deflector block cost reduciton is bugged

it does not give any block cost reduction

[steel flame]

RIP default deflector is patched now

sadge

[summer prairie]

You mean the blessing?

[idle bay]

So t1 or t4 works the same? yay! 🙂

[summer prairie]

I remember hearing that months ago

[near wyvern]

yup!

[idle bay]

It's perfect!

Don't tell fatshark

[summer prairie]

I could put surgical on this

[steel flame]

The new swords had deflector built into the swords as a "bug"

No longer

lolololol vets finally had their power swords nerfed

apparently getting 4 hits out of the special was just a bug XP