psyker-class

[leaden thunder]

and if you don't have holy rev you are still at 1 hp

[cyan notch]

ur still 1 hp yea

if u dont get out or get hit after that u still go down

[olive ember]

Truly an immense skill issue

[cyan notch]

its also on like a idk 2min cd

[olive ember]

90 sec iirc

[cyan notch]

yes that

[steel flame]

i wish they would hurry up and give surge staff the blazing spirit blessing so it can hurry up and become the best staff in the game

[olive ember]

Don’t think It would be that good tbh

Would need to hit more targets

[steel flame]

its crit chance is stupid

[olive ember]

Like atleast 15 imo to compete

[magic burrow]

it would fit thematically

[cyan notch]

i mean cool u get 5 zombies on fire

then what

they have 3 stacks of burn

[steel flame]

im getting 2000 crits per game XP

[cyan notch]

yea cuz crit ticks multiple times per target per cast

[steel flame]

and each would count as a stack

[cyan notch]

even so blazing spirit has a cap of like 6

[steel flame]

I WANNA ZAP STUFF INTO ON FIRE STUFF

[olive ember]

It’ll make it not trash on dregs I guess but

Yeah they would need to buff the target cap to like 15

[cyan notch]

15 enemy stunlock

https://tenor.com/view/50cent-smile-driving-oh-well-im-out-gif-5135974

[steel flame]

if you just swing the staff around it keeps aquiring new targets during charged attack

and stunning them

so you can get around 15 enemy capo

[olive ember]

Hey hey

Gimme that 15 enemy stunlock

Kek

[cyan notch]

its only 5 it doesnt work like that

[steel flame]

i can dream aight

[olive ember]

Just give surge staff 15 enemy cap and tada

[viral solstice]

make surge staff shoot actual chain lightning bolts like diablo 2

⚡ ⚡

[near wyvern]

Yeah nexus spirit surge would be funny as fuck

[olive ember]

Funny but they’d have to buff target cap to be like

Not shit

[cyan notch]

chain lightning spam with unstable currents was pretty nuts in d4

[ruby plover]

reddit is telling a guy to take unstable III off his illi and keep shred 💀

[golden tartan]

Lmao

Reddit is retardef

Reddit activelt encourages weakspot damage perks

[cyan notch]

shred is…fine if youre just spamming heavies

all it really needs is slaughterer tbh

[ruby plover]

shred is pretty cool for doing a tiny fraction of unstable's damage increase occasionally

if you dont want to use the weapon's defining mechanic and just brain off spam

[summer prairie]

not like unstable is doing much when you are doing activated heavies

[olive ember]

Not the worst tbh, the other day I had a guy say that a BiS zealot flamer had showstopper on it

[near wyvern]

Yeah you can deck out shred in one heavy light combo

[ruby plover]

people used to say that it was important here too

[ruby plover]

and you can never apply it to your specials ever

[summer prairie]

it's better, but not essential. You can definitely just run deflector or whatever

[ruby plover]

the point here is that shred fs is ass ass ass

crits dont even trigger anything

[near wyvern]

The only reason to run shred is to run also blazing spirit but the whole combo is a bit meh. All you want is a slaughterer on illisi and it's a meat grinder after that.

[ruby plover]

blazing spirit is for bloodthirsty

[near wyvern]

Nope

[ruby plover]

[near wyvern]

Illisi just kills everything too fast with it

[ruby plover]

yes its a meme roll

that doesnt change bloodthirsty being better for it

[olive ember]

Imagine building for crit on force swords kek

[near wyvern]

It does. Blazing Spirit doesn't apply if the target dies on the hit.

[ruby plover]

okay so

get this

do a normal swing after the special swing

[near wyvern]

And that crit will just kill too many

[ruby plover]

malice moment

[near wyvern]

I have it, I have tried it. You get better horde control and more consistent fires with shred blazing spirit

[near wyvern]

Have played Damnation only since December

[olive ember]

I love malice

[ruby plover]

oh yes my favorite part of darktide discor

ego time baby

[olive ember]

Damnation too hard

[ruby plover]

yes literally everyone in the discord plays damnation homie lol

not a flex

[summer prairie]

"malice moment" into that is bold

[ruby plover]

i said its my favorite part

[cyan notch]

lol

[near wyvern]

If bloodthirsty was still all attacks for the 5 seconds it would be better for blazing spirit, but since it's not, shred is better. Even with wildfire. Which is bad.

[olive ember]

Don’t you love random bloodthirsty nerfs

[ruby plover]

im trying to figure out why shred crits dont deal as much damage as bloodthirsty crits

must be some black magic

[summer prairie]

what

[ruby plover]

well if you proc bloodthirsty and crit you kill too many enemies

but if you have shred and thats your crit supply you dont

[viral solstice]

wrong, watch this

[ruby plover]

[viral solstice]

i play damnation... badly

see the flex

[ruby plover]

ermg

[near wyvern]

They do but you can just keep spamming lights. The moment you special up you kill too many and there are not enough targets to blaze consistently.

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/ნათია-ბაყაყი-frog-პრანჭია-gif-20928578

[ruby plover]

im chuckling

[viral solstice]

❤️

[near wyvern]

Spamming lights with shred gets you more crits than spamming special into light/heavy or special into light/ heavy + light/heavy

In real fights, not meat grinder sims

[viral solstice]

stay mad, i only play meatgrinder

on damnation

[lethal lagoon]

That might be an actual thing lmao. I mean we already have creature spawner, how long until people make custom levels?

[cyan notch]

u think crab is being ironic

[olive ember]

I’m sorry @ornate hamlet

[cyan notch]

but no he actually only plays meat grinder

[olive ember]

You got an emoji from a destiny 2 discord

[ruby plover]

good lord

[olive ember]

Opinion from now on discarded

[ruby plover]

i actually dunno why im there ive literally never LFGed for destiny in my life

i have friends for that shit

there was probably drama once

[olive ember]

I mean the only semi recent drama I heard about from destiny 2 was apparently some p*do shit

[ruby plover]

gamers...

[cyan notch]

what

dont talk about destiny thanks

[olive ember]

Yeah play good mmo instead

Like FFXIV

[ruby plover]

[viral solstice]

i actually do make little fight clubs in meatgrinder

[cyan notch]

destiny isnt really an mmo

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XPNLO9Vnvcbfy/d1337EvJA1bl?invite=cr-MSxmYnIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[cyan notch]

so theyre nothing alike

[ruby plover]

erm but luke smith said it was an mmo in like shadowkeep

check mate!!!!!!!!!

[viral solstice]

like i had fun doing shovel ogryn vs the toilet gang

[cyan notch]

luke smith hasnt been game director for years

[viral solstice]

[ruby plover]

||it also sure as fuck wasnt an mmo then either||

[olive ember]

Why the fuck do I meet toilet gang every other game

Thx crab

[viral solstice]

toilet gang are out there

they comin for u

[spice veldt]

toughest, meanest toilet gang

[viral solstice]

thats why u need the pooper scooper

to get rid of them

on psyker i did a lot of 50 potheads stuff

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10XzgNlpiTD1Es/d1337Kr6NeP2?invite=cr-MSx6cjcsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

but that was just to see how practical it was in various ways to use that under pressure and broadly the answer is why bother its a devil claw

[fallow meadow]

Warp Flurry on Surge is fixed now is't it?

[viral solstice]

and the amount of mental effort u have to put in to time the incoming attacks with the block-> parry transition to avoid taking chip, then covering recovery frames with dodges, is not wurf

[cyan notch]

running attack spam simulator

[spice veldt]

simply have the attention management of a god

[cyan notch]

darktide™️

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/12aesd9/bug_surge_staff_damage_from_600_upto_18001900/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

Yooo surge staff meta

[fallow meadow]

Ok, just confirm it work. Got myself a new staff

[cyan notch]

are you sorting by new on darktide reddit and just looking at everything

[viral solstice]

it is very satisfying tho

i think what i would take away from it is the use of dodge specifically to cover the parry

and if ur unsure blocking into parrying always

[fallow meadow]

<-old new->

[olive ember]

Honestly I forget what I sort by half the time

Prob by new rn

[olive ember]

Personally I’d take the right one, yeet channeling off for nexus, replace elite with maniac or flak or wte

[fallow meadow]

Yap. Just having a chat with Hadron.

[ruby plover]

the subreddit is so slow that you see everything regardless of which sort u use

the real dub as usual is of course to just never go there

[olive ember]

But I’m a Redditor

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-redditor-dying-calculator1703-upvotes-gif-21921071

How else do I cope with having to touch grass

[gilded viper]

[cyan notch]

edit thanks for the gold kind stranger

[olive ember]

I’ve actually gotten two golds before

Both for 3 AM tirades on Reddit

[young spear]

i ducked under his swing

[viral solstice]

dodge slide

u hear the woosh

[lilac tapir]

the minimap in the top left corner - what's that mod called?

[young spear]

i think its literally minimap

[spice veldt]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/108

[young spear]

yeah

[lilac tapir]

thanks! 🙂

[young spear]

its neat

its very nice for helping keep track of your teammates

[lilac tapir]

ah it's uploaded on April 1st, that explains why I didn't see it, I didn't check nexus for the last couple of days

[granite mauve]

good and mmo in the same sentence

🤦‍♂️

[olive ember]

Ffxiv is p good

Better than it’s competitors kek

[granite mauve]

💀

[idle bay]

A shovel. I see you an Ogryn of culture as well 🙂

[viral solstice]

time 2 scoop

[grizzled jasper]

y'know i once joked about having a halo style mini map

we're getting closer to that

[unreal dust]

... So I finally got my hands on the Bloodthirsty blessing and stuffed it on a Deimos

I feel... ... disappointed. Its only 1 swing after the kill and the critical damage isn't what I was hoping for to chain-murder crushers on Damnation

[idle bay]

My PoopScooper 9000
With Bleed it kills Bulwarks in seconds 🙂 Which scooper are you using?

[viral solstice]

i have been messing around

the most recent one is a debuff dispenser like that one

basically the same but 80 pen instead of cc and lower rank skullcrusher

but thunderous 4

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10N0WVyn6sJGTc/d1337qFoeDJU?invite=cr-MSxnTHEsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

mainly for the memes

[young spear]

opinions on the mg that has a higher firerate but smaller damage per shot?

i like the quickdraw aspect of it, the bracing is super fast

[olive ember]

Just use autopistol

[young spear]

autopistol ogryn

[blazing oak]

Would mind in motion be overpowered if it also removed movement penalties for blocking, charging staves, and brainburst

[twilit flicker]

Autopistol but it's an anti-aircraft gun

[young spear]

what is it competing with right now?

[west galleon]

I dont like ff because it feels even more railroaded than other mmos i played up until now

[olive ember]

You get movement penalties?

[twilit flicker]

I would love that version of mind in motion

[young spear]

i dont think it'd be op, sounds fun if anything

you can already dodge slide to bypass those movement penalties

[twilit flicker]

Only if you brace yourself for the recoil. Also I don't know, I only play psyker.

[blazing oak]

Ever play ravenfield? That game had a secret gun that was two auto pistol akimbo that shot flak rounds

[olive ember]

Oh I replied to wrong msg

I meant mind in motion comment

[twilit flicker]

Oh wait it was wrong reply. ._.

[olive ember]

I barely feel movement penalty when I’m charging a BB or staff

[young spear]

really?

u cant walk at all

u can slide tho

[blazing oak]

Okay take what I said about mind in motion and add ability to run with quelling bb and at full speed when staff charging

[serene breach]

is all the psyker force sword now have build in deflector blessing?

[olive ember]

Bug

[twilit flicker]

You get a huge movement penalty for both of those, I would guess slightly worse than staff quelling. Or maybe not as bad?

[olive ember]

Expect it to be patched

Oh eh I just slidecast

[serene breach]

D: gotta go prep a force sword with deflector blessing then

[idle bay]

Made few with deflector right when they came out expecting a fix.... They just rolled that way 🙂

[olive ember]

Lmao same

[spice veldt]

just had an assassination with only one other player who kept on aggroing enemies ahead of us and didn't revive the bots during the finale even though I had the boss occupied; very fun

[olive ember]

Oof

The pug experience I see

[spice veldt]

at least it was low intensity

I was contemplating just leaving the game once we reached the boss room

[olive ember]

Lmao did you win?

[blazing oak]

Reminds me of when I had failed uprising assassination even with 100+ hours in the game. In my defense, my teammates all went down and the boss kept staggering me out of reviving

[spice veldt]

yeah we won

kited that boss like a motherfucker

[olive ember]

I mean I had a low int malice that I almost lost at one point

[blazing oak]

That’s malice

[olive ember]

And this was with two other players with Damnation borders

[spice veldt]

it was on the magistrati one so it was the easy map

i think that other player had a damnation border as well

yeah

[blazing oak]

Try losing uprising because the only other player woke up the daemonhost and the game auto fails you despite bots being alive

[spice veldt]

and earlier in the mission, I had an ogryn who charged ahead, died, and left

absolutely cursed

[blazing oak]

The game has so little faith in its own bots that if you die the game auto fails you

[spice veldt]

i suppose they would know the best

[blazing oak]

You ever have a game where you just seemed to be cursed and go down an unusual amount of times

[spice veldt]

I've trolled a game by blowing up myself twice near the finale and going away from my team; though I will say that I was sleepy by that point

the 2nd time I blew myself up, I thought I could be loosey loosey with my peril since I thought I would have another wound

[blazing oak]

Better than the hi shock damnation where I did so bad for some reason. At one point if I could’ve I would’ve initiated a self vote kick. Just didn’t want to leave my team with a bot

[spice veldt]

and then they picked up a 2nd grim just as I was about to blow up

I was considering leaving the game but decided that I might as well get my mats

[olive ember]

I lost a hi int malice cuz I was memeing around with a revolver vet loadout

And I have bad luck and got some truly… challenged… players

[idle bay]

I call them gifted ones 🙂

Also it helps to imagine David Attenborough narrating their actions. Or his equivalent for your country 🙂

Milk brought a gift today 🙂

[vale creek]

damn i got a so good pub i completed this on damnation

[vale creek]

it was low intensity tho

[olive ember]

Got mine on heresy assassination

No clue how

[edgy kite]

How tf do i tell what mission I'm missing, done tons and I'm at stuck on 6/7 on that damn penance

[fallow falcon]

You don't

[leaden thunder]

you download a mod

[fallow falcon]

Or that

[edgy kite]

What mod?

[olive ember]

Just write it down smh

Kids these days

[leaden thunder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/55

[edgy kite]

Cheers

Hopefully it's retroactive

[olive ember]

Should be

[idle bay]

I use mod and then Write Those Missions Down! 🙂

Then you can delete that mod

[fallow falcon]

What's the best place to find a group for Malleus Monstronum? Here or LFG?

[idle bay]

Faster in LFG

[olive ember]

Def not here

We are nerds who just talk about best psyker build

We don’t actually play the game

[idle bay]

Mostly friendly and mostly harmless 🙂

Also some cool findings and meme build sometimes posted here

[fallow falcon]

I am growing stronger

[shy crag]

Thought I'd test this out and it's surprisingly a lot of fun

[serene breach]

omg lucky you

[near wyvern]

I use it in my main build

[olive ember]

Nexus spirit user?!?!?

gasp

[austere sandal]

worth getting?

[feral verge]

meh

transfer peril is the only decent thing on that

[snow panther]

damn got emperors gift mk5 DS with 2 lvl 4 blessings

[feral verge]

but you can pretty easily farm fro transfer peril 3

unyielding and crit chance perks are no good on void

[austere sandal]

wut do u usually pair with transfer peril btw

[feral verge]

warp flurry

warp flurry and transfer peril are the BIS blessings for voidstrike

for perks, you want flak and perhaps maniac

[austere sandal]

aight

[snow panther]

would you take an extra 20% health or 1 wound on damnation

[feral verge]

health

every time imo

[west galleon]

I'd take the health

[snow panther]

yeh

i have +1 wound and the other 2 health

[west galleon]

But there were times when i could've used one more try

[feral verge]

For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary

[west galleon]

Yea thats about how i would reason hp>wound too

[snow panther]

you wouldnt even take +1 wound?

[clear heath]

I sell all my wound curios

[west galleon]

0

[snow panther]

so youd have only one health bar?

[feral verge]

nope

[feral verge]

you have 2 base wounds

on damnation

[west galleon]

Was about to say

[feral verge]

(with zero curios)

[snow panther]

oh shit youre right, i havent been running any wounds xD

[clear heath]

lol

[ruby plover]

me when i load in and see some guy with 5 bars

[west galleon]

See, you already got it

[snow panther]

ok now what about toughness vs health? im doing a mix of both, and looking for toughness regen speed as secondary

[clear heath]

you ever see an ogryn with wounds

pro wound player

[feral verge]

the more wounds i see a person has in damnation, my confidence in them plummets

[clear heath]

6 wounds

[feral verge]

especially if it's a knife zealot, or surge psyker

[snow panther]

i usually see people running 1-2

[west galleon]

Thats what i do

[clear heath]

mine is a mix rn

[spice veldt]

I personally run two toughness, with the other curio being stamina

I also have toughness as curio perks

[olive ember]

Two hp and a wound

[clear heath]

I have 130 toughness 210 hp

[west galleon]

I got 2 toughness and 1 hp

With regen as secondaries

[feral verge]

typically in damnation, the players with zero wounds curios do better, in my experience. they play better/more confidently. its not always the case, but it's the newer players who favor stacking wounds

i used to like wounds, but then started playing sweatier and tried HP maxing and never ever looked back

[wet jacinth]

[west galleon]

Best case i lose my toughness and just dodge around a corner to quell and regen

Since i got quietitude

[feral verge]

i have 260hp

[olive ember]

Screw you my 1 wound is great >.>

[west galleon]

Or however thats spelled

[feral verge]

267 is max possible on psyker

sometimes i roll 1 +3 stam curio

[snow panther]

ok got a 20% health curio, rolled 20% sniper reduction perk, and then rolled a 6% exp perk which is locked

[feral verge]

then my hp plummets to 231

[west galleon]

I got like 198 and im comfy with that

Then again i hardly roll for curios bc i cant be assed to farm mats even though you can farm like 2 rolls per run

I got lucky i think

[feral verge]

i farmed curios early on

and got what i wanted pretty quickly, and havent really tried since

the only time i try now is if i get a 21% hp curio in the store

i'll try to roll on it

[west galleon]

Same, kinda, but probably not really.

[feral verge]

I stack HP, and toughness Regen perks

My ideal for the third perk would be 2x sniper resist, and then stam Regen maybe

[winter magnet]

is warp nexus any good on the flame staff?

Or should I just reroll it?

[feral verge]

warp nexus is best in slot

[winter magnet]

oh fr

dude awesome

[feral verge]

you want warp nexus and warp flurry

[winter magnet]

warp nexus and warp flurry

bet thanks man

[feral verge]

what you ahve there is an almost perfect purga

[winter magnet]

dude thanks

[feral verge]

the only thing "wrong" with it is 75% burn

[winter magnet]

25% burn?

[feral verge]

you want 76% or higher

[winter magnet]

Oh I see

is it for breakpoints?

[feral verge]

76 lets you put another stack of fire on an enemy

[winter magnet]

ohhh I see

[feral verge]

here's mine. pretty close to perfect

[winter magnet]

so thanks

[feral verge]

np sibling

[winter magnet]

JOKES ON YOU YOU IM ACTUALLY A ZEALOT

FOR THE EMPRAH

[feral verge]

that's how i play psyker now lol

[winter magnet]

lmao

[feral verge]

i play like a flamer zealot

with the new swords, especially the illisi

[winter magnet]

yea I run the new shotgun sniper on mine

[north parcel]

Alright fellas

Anyone of you know a mod to make purge staff not visual diarrhea

[snow panther]

so how does psyker with shredder pistol work

[idle bay]

You get Illisi out, stroke it few times to get close to 100% peril while having Warp Unleashed feat and few warp charges.
And then you go ... SHREDDING!

Maniacal laughter in process is mandatory

[snow panther]

interesting

[leaden thunder]

also ascendant barrage (the fire one)

the fire dot is effected by the power blessings on the pistol

[north cradle]

Something for post-processing maybe?

[twilit flicker]

Get Pinning Fire or Blaze Away, ideally both. If you only get Blaze remember to keep your finger on the trigger to reach the best possible power bonus from it.

Really that's just the gun on its own, which is a good thing in my book.

[idle bay]

With that much bonuses that affects damage it might as well be a Heavy Bolter not auto-pistol 🙂

[fallow falcon]

I completed a hi intensity hunting pack damnation with 2 grims and all I got was this shitty laspistol

[twilit flicker]

Yeah Honestly, it's like shooting 100kg weights.

Well not heavy bolter power, but enough to make anything charging you stop.

[idle bay]

Have you seen an ultimate POKE?

[fallow falcon]

It can kill a damnation mutant in under a second

And if you get a few ragers rushing you, just hold the trigger until they're gone

[snow panther]

anyoe have a screenshot of the weapon yall talkin on?

[fallow falcon]

Something like this

[snow panther]

oh wow, yeh good on its own, but nice with psyker perks added

[idle bay]

I wonder why Pygex's videos are still not pinned. They are crucial to all siblings

[fallow falcon]

34-49% more damage assuming 6 warp charges and peril

Is just lmao

[idle bay]

And that 5 seconds self-explosion video too

[twilit flicker]

I have seen the poke, it's hilarious. Was doing it for fun and the other guy on mic started laughing along with me.

[late yew]

Any lore nerds here? aside from me

Are not human psykers can only affect mind and do lightning?

[snow panther]

whats poke

[late yew]

Can't do flames and especially wild stuff like trauma or void

[idle bay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUkBoKxY10

Now you know

[feral verge]

landing that is one of the best feelings in the game

[idle bay]

Non human psykers can do whatever author wants them to be able to do 🙂 Same and even more than human psykers, or sometimes dramatically less- depending on xenos species

[late yew]

eldar definitely can do flames and telekenisis

Just can look whatever exists in actual tabletop

[fallow falcon]

lmao there were people who didn't like this thing?

Mine isn't even optimal and it feels great

[feral verge]

when those comments were made (im assuming you're tlaking about pygex' video) the update wasnt out yet

[idle bay]

Imagine peak of decadence of Eldar Empire before the FALL and imagine very creative decadent and depraved 50000 years old eldar psyker with very creative approach to his own powers....

[feral verge]

fatshark said we'd be getting a new single target force sword

[ruby plover]

not illi smh my head

[feral verge]

when the community had been asking for a hordeclear weapon for psyker

cuz obscurus was already single target

[ruby plover]

yeah it was a bit funny that they announced 2 weapons

that killed most of my hype

and then i saw patch notes and saw like 11 new weapons and reinstalled

[feral verge]

i stockpiled mats

30k plasteel

in preparation for the update

i was hoping for new weapons, or a better crafting system

[ruby plover]

i logged in with 0 plasteel on my main (that i dont play anymore) and like 2k on all of my other characters

thank god i got insanely lucky and got serviceable psyker weaps in my 1st few attempts

since its just been brick after brick after that

[olive ember]

Me

Fuck the deimos

Stupid sword

[feral verge]

yeah i was only down to 20k when i got really good rolls

[olive ember]

Never touching it ever again

[late yew]

No, eldar are not depraved at all, only dark eldar. And there is no dark eldar psykers

[feral verge]

but i've since spent it all trying to get unstable power 4

[ruby plover]

eldar are not depraved at all

[feral verge]

i cant seem to get it

[late yew]

up to FOUR % power? IS this a joke?

[feral verge]

no

it stacks 4 times

[fallow falcon]

Its 4% per 20% peril

[idle bay]

Learn the karking history! Before the Fall Eldars make "Dark" Eldars look like My Little Ponies

[feral verge]

t4 unstable pwoeri s 20% pwoer

[late yew]

Not at all. This is why their Path and strict rules exist. To prevent falling into depravity once again.

[feral verge]

its the 2nd best blessing for force sword

[ruby plover]

the guy literally said before the fall in the message ur replying to

[late yew]

We are talking about "current" eldar, no the ones before the fall.

[late yew]

ah, it does not mention that

[late yew]

Eldar psyker can't be old

They literally turn into crystals

And eldar generally not immortal

There are none who were alive during the Fall. There are some among dark eldar though

[idle bay]

Modern eldars can do what human psykers are unable to do - to manipulate Wraithbone. It's entire psyhic discipline on it's own

[late yew]

i dig it so much

Basically they have infinite resources

They literally will matter into existance

From psychic energy

[idle bay]

But they so boring really. Pre-fall was most fun ones 🙂

[late yew]

dark eldar literally that

You could say true eldar culture

i dig them too

there are some fun books about them

[idle bay]

But without psyhic powers - so not like that. Limitations.

That makes them not as fun

[late yew]

they are fast as fuck though

[idle bay]

Orks are da best psykers really

Whatever they collectively believe - comes true. That is moist badass psyhic power ever!

Necron weapons so powerful - because it's green and green is the best colour according to orks.

Ah damnit. My cat is forcing me to post his photo in #pet-tide again....

[scarlet timber]

what is the point of the old

force sword now?

[ruby plover]

nostalgia

[low parrot]

Heresy is harder than Damnation

[feral verge]

yup

its the players

[idle bay]

There are clusters of insufferable elitists on Heresy, who keeps bitching about everything 🙂

[ruby plover]

swear i dont have the same experience that everyone else has here

my heresy players arent dogshit they're all mid but my damnation players are all equally mid

which is fine btw i aint complaining about consistency

[wide ginkgo]

Maybe there is a common denominator

[ruby plover]

that would be a sick burn if it made any sense

[olive ember]

Eh I always get dogshit players

But then again I always play on malice

[low parrot]

Well, more people who queue up on Damnation seem to know what they are doing

Still see people on Heresy getting solo'd by one crusher

[ruby plover]

okay i have a confession to make

i've eaten like 3 crusher overheads in the last couple of days and i dont know why

its like i dodge and they swing and then i get hit a half second later

is it server fuckery or is it shorter dodges than im used to or what

[low parrot]

Probably lag

[ruby plover]

i dont want to cope out and blame lag when im out here eating overheads but its actually confusing

i guess i'll clip it if it happens again

[olive ember]

Simply a skill issue duh

[low parrot]

Nah but for real you can see how laggy it can be when you're doing that minigame where you have to press the button

and it just says no every time

[ruby plover]

oh

so thats what that is

[olive ember]

Crushers are naturally slidey as fuck for me so I just don’t get near rn tbh

[low parrot]

Because you've got 250ms and dont know it

[ruby plover]

yeah i was really eager to cut them in half with illi

cuz cutting crushers in half is fun

but now i just bb spam them cuz i've been hit too many times

[autumn smelt]

whats the dump stat you want for voidstrike? is it warp resist or quell speed?

[ruby plover]

warp resist

but i mean

that's a nice base anyways

[safe crystal]

Quell, you have peril transfer for quelling

[ruby plover]

more warp more toughness

idk i dont play staff

[autumn smelt]

either or ig

[near wyvern]

I have killed a same pox walker two times with Deimos 2nd heavy. That has happened to me around 3 or 4 times, so it can very well be server lag.

[autumn smelt]

saw that and went ooga

[ruby plover]

oh yeah actually now that you mention it

[autumn smelt]

dont really use voidstrike cuz i got a bonkers purg right off the rip at lvl 30

and i wanna diversify

[ruby plover]

very frequently i illi special a pox walker

get gore, get hit sounds

and it doesnt even stagger let alone take damage

alright excellent im not coping then servers just busted

[autumn smelt]

lets run it through the RNGinator and see what we get

https://tenor.com/view/hey-thats-right-pretty-good-amazing-gif-20161005

[olive ember]

Eh swap out transfer peril for better transfer peril and yea

[ruby plover]

[olive ember]

Not ba d

[autumn smelt]

could be better but not bad for my first viable void staff

[olive ember]

Idk if it would compete with recon las but still

[ruby plover]

every time i talk to hadron

[autumn smelt]

i dont got any better ones lmao

those two are actually the only tiers i have of those blessings lol

[olive ember]

Oof

[autumn smelt]

yeah i only started actually PLAYING playing about 2.5 weeks ago

so my blessing catalogue is quite cringe

which is why im not too peeved with t2 blessings

[safe crystal]

Those are the blessings you're looking for. Swap the weakspot damage to flak or unarmoured, and its good to go

[autumn smelt]

yeah thats what i planned on

ik those are what im looking for but the min maxers of the psyker chat probably look at the blessing tiers in disgust

[safe crystal]

Transfer peril 2 should be enough with that flurry level, so i dont see an issue

Always CAN be better, but its really good

[karmic reef]

Is there any kind of full auto or burst lasgun for psyker?

[olive ember]

Recon

Lmao

Not good

[autumn smelt]

now my main question is

is there any reason to use it over purg? cuz after using that for a while i cant see anything else being as powerful

[safe crystal]

Longer range, more reliable CC, if you use quietitude, transfer peril regens your toughness. Those come to mind

[autumn smelt]

oh true

but i dont understand more reliable cc

cuz the flames from purg pretty much always stagger

[worn bolt]

Should I grab this from melk? im using an old dueling sword rn cause last time I played psyker was before the changes

[olive ember]

Flames are kinda weird where sometimes if you are spraying it left to right mobs kinda just ignore the fact they are on fire and walk straight to you

[cold oasis]

The flames of Purge have shit range, that's pretty much it

[safe crystal]

A rager, for example, can be staggered with a voidstrike, but im pretty sure purg doesnt do that. Its been forever since i played purg though, has that changed?

[olive ember]

Voidstrike explosion will pmuch always knock

[cold oasis]

Honestly, other than Surge being OP i've been loving Trauma lately

[autumn smelt]

ive noticed its more common with the armored rager

but it does stagger, it just takes slightly longer

[worn bolt]

wanted to swap to trauma tbh, I think my new dps build would profit from it

[autumn smelt]

so youll likely have to dodge back once when using it

[cold oasis]

It was buffed enough to not destroy your mana and still oneshot most stuff with a 75% charge on Damnation

with a half decent roll

[safe crystal]

Also, like Derpy said, voidstrike always at least knocks things back instantly on hit, while purg sometimes takes a while to stagger things

[cold oasis]

The only problem with Trauma is that you need pretty much every fucking stat

[worn bolt]

no comments on this? base stats are pretty decent but I know nothing about what rolls should be on it

[cold oasis]

I can't remember, the MK 2 is the old one? or the aoe new one?

[autumn smelt]

p sure thats the old one

[worn bolt]

dont know

[autumn smelt]

illisi is the aoe

[cold oasis]

Oh, the old one (god i fucking hate that they have all the same name, jesus)

[autumn smelt]

and deimos is the new single target

[worn bolt]

so is that the shit one thats single target?

[autumn smelt]

yea

[cold oasis]

Honestly, the single target one is just great for everything

[autumn smelt]

deimos is just the all around better one out of the single target force swords

[worn bolt]

yikes ok, thanks for saving my coins frens

[worn bolt]

yeah but my build lacks horde clear so that was what I was looking for

[cold oasis]

It has insane damage while having enough cleave for hordes while spamming lmb

[ruby plover]

yeah illi has bad single target

it only one shots reapers

[cold oasis]

Mostly, illi has not that great of an aoe either

[ruby plover]

whos ur plug

i want what ur on

[cold oasis]

It's better than the old one, but i feel the Deimos still it's better

[olive ember]

… stahp

[cold oasis]

The second attack on the chain is a big enough cleave for hordes

[ruby plover]

[worn bolt]

so this is the one im looking for, correct?

[ruby plover]

yes

that is the combined power sword heavy sword abomination

[worn bolt]

dope, thanks

[cold oasis]

Did they change the graphics?

Didn't it have the hook at the top?

oh, wrong one

[worn bolt]

where am I gonna find the high tier blessings, all I seem to see are like 1 or 2 unless its from damnation as a reward or from melk

[cold oasis]

i still suggest the Deimos MK IV over that generally speaking

Damnation or Melk

or get extremely lucky

[ruby plover]

upgrade things to orange

[worn bolt]

does that increase the quality of already existing blessings?

[ruby plover]

nope

🥴

[lethal lagoon]

Why use Deimos when you can be a Melee Psyker with Illy.

[magic burrow]

tier 3/4 blessings are fairly common from Hadron

[lethal lagoon]

What's a staff, I have no idea.

[worn bolt]

just from upgrades?

[ruby plover]

t3/4 are almost nonexistent on blue upgrades from hadron

unfortunately

we love slamming oranges

[magic burrow]

guess I got lucky then. I get those frequently, but almost the cra blessings no one wants.

[worn bolt]

got ya so I have to farm damn for hours to get more plasteel and diamantine lol

[magic burrow]

tier 3 at least

[ruby plover]

i found t4 bromentum on a blue in the normal store the other day

[magic burrow]

I mean what else are you going to do? Not play the game?

[ruby plover]

like bro why cant u give me force swords with t4 blessingss homie

[lethal lagoon]

Eh, you get like 1 orange a damn, unless you are going for something super rare like Surge or Power Cycler, it doesn't take long to get something you want at least t3.

[ruby plover]

haha yeah you'll never get rolled by rng and slam 10 oranges in a row without seeing anything besides uncanny/shred/precog

:)

[magic burrow]

hardon absolutely refuses to give me any rank of slaughterer on the ilisi

*hadron

lmao

[ruby plover]

i have seen slaughterer on a force sword once ever

it was slaughterer 2 on an emp gift illi and thats still the illi im using

[worn bolt]

tbh im all for farming, its better than getting reds in vt2 then having nothing to do so idm

[ruby plover]

lol in vt2 i never got the reds i wanted

[worn bolt]

chaos wastes is guarenteed to get you them, you can craft them if not

never takes long

[ruby plover]

still cant get the cosmetic

[worn bolt]

that may or may not be a skissue

[ruby plover]

also red crafting wasnt added forever

[worn bolt]

jk lol

dont hurt me

[magic burrow]

yeah Im okay with the current crafting loop. Its just that I feel the regular shop is absolutely useless since all the blessings are tier 1 or 2 almost all of the time

[worn bolt]

yeah I get you, I meant the recent stuff

[lethal lagoon]

Only Hadron hurts people in here.

😢

[worn bolt]

pretty much my complaint, no reason to use it anymore

[ruby plover]

i thought the crafting system sounded fine until i interacted with it

now i try not to think about it

i have weapons that work i dont need to drive myself insane

[lethal lagoon]

If a crafting system needs a mod to make it usuable, it definitely is the worst thing imaginable.

[worn bolt]

in theory tho you could get something with good base stats from the shop then slam it and replace the shit blessing

[ruby plover]

enjoy your t2 stam t2 crit t1 shred t3 uncanny

[magic burrow]

I think they should roll Melk's and brunt shop into one. Make Melk's shop refresh every hour or so, and keep Brunt just for buying white bases

[ruby plover]

[worn bolt]

honestly idfk why there are two to begin with lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I'd rather just get 6-12 re rolls on brunt's shop every day. But they'll never do that cause it would lower playtime numbers and reduce FOMO.

[ruby plover]

because brunt's was a bandaid slapped on after the fact

and adjusting everything after is way more effort

[worn bolt]

as long as they don't reduce my fugma

[ruby plover]

[worn bolt]

well in that case whos knob do I have to slob on to roll a good illi

i guess jsut spam damn and melk right?

[lethal lagoon]

Lvl a second psyker for more melk's rolls.

In fact just quit all your responsibilities and level 4 extra psykers.

[worn bolt]

character slots are full

all 30 too

[spice veldt]

well I'm sure your other characters don't matter

[ruby plover]

okay im mad that you said this

i didnt realize that i could

i

FUCK

[spice veldt]

only psykers should exist

[olive ember]

Melks shop was the weekly and originally the only place to get a weapon on demand

[worn bolt]

Don't you talk about jeffrey like that

[lethal lagoon]

I leveled a 2nd psyker as a gun psyker just to see what I was missing.

[olive ember]

Then people complained how endgame was literally just afk simulator and checking shop rerolls every hour

So they added brunt’s

So you can spend gold to get a grey weapon type of your choosing

[spice veldt]

jeffrey probably hits his face on the bathroom door at night because he forgot that he closed the door

[olive ember]

Which then inversely made melks weapon shot irrelevant

[olive ember]

Yooo that’s me

[spice veldt]

smh

[low parrot]

Except that he just loves giving you worthless 300s

[lethal lagoon]

Only t4s blessings I ever get are melks.

[olive ember]

When I was younger I locked a door and then fell asleep

[worn bolt]

certified brunt moment cause I have too much money

[olive ember]

My parents had to punch a hole in the door to open it

The hole is still there to this day

🙂

[lethal lagoon]

Don't most houses have locks you can just open with a quitip or push pin?

[spice veldt]

damn strong ass fists

[olive ember]

Actually I think they replaced the door a year or so

Idr

I should go back and check

[spice veldt]

maybe the bathroom is where they store their legal documents

[worn bolt]

what is finesse again? never bothered to figure it out

[olive ember]

Depends on the weapon

[spice veldt]

attack speed and crit/weakspot dmg multiplier

[worn bolt]

take a guess

[lethal lagoon]

On Illy Warp is the dump stat.

In fact a lot of people even look for low warp

[olive ember]

SMH wait until they nerf psyker again and then you’ll all be crying about high warp

While I’ll rest easy with like 17 warp per charge

[worn bolt]

everything brunt gave me had dog ass base stats so I guess I will slam later

[lethal lagoon]

I don't throw away anything that might be useful anymore lmao

[olive ember]

Total rng

You could spend a million w/o getting shit

No pity system or anything in place

[worn bolt]

its better than having nothing to spend money on

[ruby plover]

yeah idk how devs are still doing systems with literally no forgiveness mechanic

[lethal lagoon]

So people go to the cash shop to heal their broken hearts.

[ruby plover]

like there's one guy that's going to blow 300k plasteel and 10 million ordo bucks and still not get what he wants

and that's just fucking stupid

engagement go brrr

[worn bolt]

could argue the same for ridiculous drop rates in mmos

.001%~

[olive ember]

I mean

you are comparing a horde shooter to an mmo then

[scarlet timber]

hey

[olive ember]

also the mmo's I play typically have pity involved tbh

ffxiv does atleast

[scarlet timber]

guyss need help

what is the best staff?

[low parrot]

and MMos are supposed to be grind ftp wankfests

[scarlet timber]

what is the one that explodes on the ground?

[lethal lagoon]

bro just trying to start a war.

[worn bolt]

yeah it was an analogy, strange concept I know. I was referring to wow tho. Its a given the two aren't the same

[lethal lagoon]

Surge has the lowest skill cap, Trauma has the highest skill cap. Purg is just a Zealot Flamer. Voidstrike users have to see a doctor for hearing and vision loss.

[olive ember]

I mean

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma is the one that explodes.

[olive ember]

wow legit had a player exodus

and then they like emergency rushed out dragonflight to stop player exodus

[worn bolt]

cause the devs sucked, not because of the drop rates

[olive ember]

I guess so but the endless grinding and chores were part of it

theres a reason why the term 'choreghast" exists

and I've never even touched WoW

[worn bolt]

as someone who has played wow a lot its because it was recycled. people didn't have too much of an issue with it until it happened for the 3rd time

the devs got lazy and just put plot hole after plot hole and shitty raid/dungeon design, not to mention they killed pvp which is wows biggest seller for people

THATS why people left

[olive ember]

either way tho I'd prefer someway to mitigate rng in darktide tbh

[worn bolt]

catfish said they are probably going to discuss changes to the way blessing work I believe

[olive ember]

they literally could fix two birds with one stone seeing how we currently have endless stockpiles of diamantine

one easy fix would prob just be to unlock weapons or perks for like 5k diamantine or something dumb

[worn bolt]

imagine like unlock random tier 1 blessing for 500, 2 for 1000, 3 for 1500 and so on

[olive ember]

oh i mean

unlock as in

unlocking the perks and blessings on a weapon

so if you get like a 380 weapon but get two shit perks or blessings

you don't instantly go "welp thx hadron for bricking the weapon"

[worn bolt]

like the ability to roll them?

[olive ember]

yeah the ability to just unlock a weapon

[safe crystal]

Unlocking randomly with diamantine is never going to happen. Iirc i have 25k diamantine stored right now, i wouldnt need to grind anymore

[olive ember]

so like if I get a FS with precog and idk superiority

I can reroll one blessing, then spend 5k diamantine to unlock the weapon again to reroll the other

[worn bolt]

my brother in christ how many hours do you have

[olive ember]

tbf thats only 5 unlocks kek

i think i have 380 hrs or wte in darktide

[safe crystal]

Thats the 5 im missing

[safe crystal]

400 something

[spice veldt]

i'm surprised you have that much diamantine at 400 hours

[olive ember]

Yeah 430 a bit more than originally thought

he doesn't roll alot iirc

[spice veldt]

I only have 28k at 950 hours

[safe crystal]

I, uh. Barely play anything but the psyker

[worn bolt]

I can't play this game that much if I tried. its just not engaging after a match or two so I have to swap to something else

[safe crystal]

I think i still roll all blue/green curios on every other character

[spice veldt]

same; I stopped playing vet after my 70th hour I think

[ruby plover]

mfw i wasted all this time levelling every class to 30 instead of just making 4 psykers

[olive ember]

lmao I got one of each class at 30 for varieties sake

tho ngl I go "I wanna be axe murderer" and swap to zealot

only to realize I could just play psyker instead

and just use an axe

[worn bolt]

you know what fuck my vet, I never play him. another psyker it is

[lethal lagoon]

It's really fun to smurf lvl a psyker btw

[ruby plover]

i might swap back to zealot main if they buff evi and revolver sufficiently

idk

we'll see

[worn bolt]

never tried it, people jsut treat you lieka god? lol

[olive ember]

prob confused

cuz you can be a lvl 1 psyker but with the penance armor

[lethal lagoon]

A mixture. Yeah that too ^

Lots of clutches because you get queued with lower lvl players

[worn bolt]

ah well I never equip armor, I keep prison garb and default frame

[lethal lagoon]

Where as if you queue malice at 30 you get other 30s

at 10 you get similar lvls

[worn bolt]

I noticed that

[spice veldt]

if curios were shared, I'd prob make another psyker

[worn bolt]

i just like surprising people by carrying them in default gear

[lethal lagoon]

curios are a bitch, esp if you already got used to not using brunt's refreshing store.

[worn bolt]

easily the msot annoying grind but im still for it

[lethal lagoon]

I just gave up trying to get good ones, not like it matters that much on my gun psyker. It's a meme.

[worn bolt]

I jsut try to roll like 2 or 3 good stats and the other can jsut be random idgaf

[lethal lagoon]

to be clear, I only gave up on my second psyker. I'm OCD on my main with his curios.

[spice veldt]

i'd miss my +3 stam with all the specific perks that I want

[ruby plover]

i simply swap to a staff when i dont feel like playing gun psyker

[lunar hollow]

this is a reminder from your local loner psyker

[sinful vigil]

just got this dropped from a mission but have never used a trauma before, what blessings/perks should i look for

[rare rock]

what should i drop from this curio to add sniper resistance? bomber?

[sinful vigil]

I would say to drop pox hounds, since you don't really worry about the hounds doing damage rather the enemies that hit you while youre pinned

[rare rock]

hmm yeah makes sense, ty

[sinful vigil]

And I'd say a hound is easier to avoid in more scenarios while sometimes you might be cornered by mobs or a small room when a bomber shows

[rare rock]

yeah i was just thinking bomber because they are both easy to avoid but thinking about some scenarios i think bomber could be a bigger threat

[sinful vigil]

getting caught out by a bomber is going to chunk your hp bar no matter what, but a hound is just going to make you have to wait for your teammates

[spice veldt]

Perks: Unarmoured (for dreg enemies), Flak (for gunners/shotgunners), Infested (for Poxwalkers). I'd urge you to go for +Unarmoured and +Flak.
Blessings: Warp Flurry, Rending Shockwave, Focused Channeling. Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave is popular.

[sinful vigil]

okay thanks, so the one i got is not ideal

good to know ty

[spice veldt]

yeah you got screwed on the perks and blessings

[digital loom]

focused channeling and rending shockwave is what i use and its extremely reliable

make sure blast radius is max and charge rate is good. 60~ damage is ok

but you really want 80

use whatever you have to get what you want

want flak, other one should probably be unarmored

if i had to choose between them i'd choose unarmored because it seems more common

unyielding also not a bad choice if you want to use it for killing slugs

but it does just fine without

and the reason why focused channeling is because shooters wont disrupt you anymore and you can also use it as a melee weapon

to just shoot your feet and get free toughness

[sinful vigil]

lmao i see i see

I basically have only used the purge staff so this is nice info ty

[half turtle]

wait do you get toughness for trauma staff kills?

or do you mean from quietude

[digital loom]

use the one thats toughness on warp kill

vs hordes you will go from no toughness to full toughness in one shot

[spice veldt]

I personally don't use warp absorption, but it serves well enough as a melee weapon https://streamable.com/jq9f93

[sinful vigil]

does the surge staff count as a warp attack?

[digital loom]

yea but surge doesnt kill things sfast enough

[sinful vigil]

Ah, ok

[half turtle]

do e.g. charged force sword swings count as warp attacks

or is it only staff/headpop

[spice veldt]

iirc, all the specials of the blaze force swords proc warp absorption except for the Illisi's

[digital loom]

i run deimos with trauma

its basically an achlys but better

[edgy kite]

Worth buying and changing the blessing?

[half turtle]

dang

i unironically haven't tried the new psyker weapons because it's too much work to buy and upgrade them

i'm still using my obscurus lol

it works fine, don't fix what ain't broke, etc etc

[spice veldt]

they altered the timing of the 2nd heavy on the obscurus which miffled me

and the nerf to bloodthirsty also made me completely give up on the obscurus

[half turtle]

tbh i don't even pay attention to my fs blessings 😐

they all seemed kinda low-impact back when i was grinding for weapons still and now it's just too much work

if i pay attention to them ill also notice that they're non-optimal and ill never be able to fix them because of reroll locks

[spice veldt]

crits and 1 slaughterer stack allow you to one-shot dreg bruisers with a normal heavy headshot, which was basically free money to gain slaughterer stacks

though I haven't tested with post-patch normal sweeping heavy damages

[plucky perch]

why on earth did they nerg the force sword with a flave force attack to not count as a warp source kill unlike the other two single target ones

[spice veldt]

probably just an oversight rather than an intentional nerf

[feral verge]

a few stacks of unstable power on the new deimos force sword will let you one shot a charging mutie in the head, with the 2nd heavy attack

[plucky perch]

ahh hope your right

[spice veldt]

the bug reports on the forum are marked as "acknowledged" rather than "not-a-bug", and the new force swords have some interesting qualities about them stemming from old code (built-in deflector, faster movement speed on swap)

and I think the 2nd heavy on the illisi has the pre-patch hold timings of the obscurus?

[rigid sky]

man, fuck the people playing this fucking game

[spice veldt]

my muscle memory was really fucked when I tried to use the obscurus, but I had no problem doing the light->heavy chain with the illisi

[rigid sky]

some fucking cuntbag just killed the shotgunners I needed for going out with a bang

fuck penances

fuck assholes who don't fucking read

[half turtle]

someone told me you can do it with the obscurus on a body shot with the right blessings and perks

[spice veldt]

though that's presumably with the special

[feral verge]

with the special attack, maybe

[rigid sky]

and fuck me for even bothering trying to do this fucking antifun shit

[spice veldt]

mankar is referring to the 2nd heavy on the deimos

[feral verge]

but with deimos it's just a 2nd heavy to the head

no special charge up

no getting stuck

you can do it right in their face, as they charge

no dodging

[half turtle]

dang

[feral verge]

like an ogryn with a grenade box

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUkBoKxY10

from our very own @near wyvern

[spice veldt]

since the deimos' 2nd heavy is just a normal attack with its base damage cranked up, so it can take full advantage of the 2.3x weakspot multiplier (at 80% finesse)

[feral verge]

shows it off in this vid

it's so much fun

my new favorite thing

[pearl lion]

Melk when he sees my other characters: Ew
Melk when he sees my psyker: Heeeeey bestie ❤️

[olive ember]

Ewww deimos

[feral verge]

he's an ass to my female judge zealot

but cool with my female loner psyker

[olive ember]

Melk dislikes judge iirc

He has a whole voiceline about how refreshing it is to find someone who knows their place atleast

[feral verge]

ive heard that one

[olive ember]

So someone like judge whose all about you know, judging other people no matter who they are is like the polar opposite

[scarlet timber]

i really odntknow how to build a psker

[olive ember]

Use surge staff, use quietitude

???

Success

[feral verge]

(surge is most mid staff)

nah wait it is mid staff

the others are good

[olive ember]

Screw you surge is meta and amazing and beautiful

[feral verge]

malice

gaming

[olive ember]

.>

Just because I only play malice smh

[feral verge]

shaking my smh my head

[olive ember]

smsmhmh

[plush glacier]

surge is effective but not very engaging for me

if you enjoy CC, surge is a lot of fun

if you want to kill a lot of stuff, try trauma, void, or purgatus

void is all around very good, especially I imagine paired with the new horde clearing force sword

my personal favorite is trauma but it has the steepest learning curve

and is most roll reliant

[feral verge]

surge can be effective, but i think any other staff can be MORE effective

the only thing surge has over the others is stopping muties

every other staff can CC AND actually kill shit

all my homies hate surge

[plush glacier]

it's the most effective at killing shooters behind cover, assuming they're not too far away

also you get to feel like a sith lord and that has to count for something

I just don't find it very engaging because you don't have to aim and it can only really kill two enemies at a time

[half turtle]

trauma is also amazing at cc

oh it's already been mentioned

rip

trauma with rending shockwave seems just good in every situation though

[plush glacier]

surge is probably the easiest to get started with if you're learning psyker

void is also good for that

purgatus and trauma are more finicky I think, although I haven't used purg in a long time

[half turtle]

purg is pretty straightforward i feel

it pulls out instantly so you can just tap Q > LMB spam

to instantly clear space in any horde that isn't ogryns

which gives you the space to hold down RMB etc etc

[pearl rune]

FIRE FIRE FIRE

[plush glacier]

not being able to kill stuff at midrange and beyond is pretty limiting

[pearl rune]

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-excited-butthead-psyched-yeah-gif-23700644

[plush glacier]

I used void almost exclusively while leveling, it's a good all around staff

[half turtle]

yeah although with psyker it feels less bad than e.g. with zealot flamer bc bb still exists

so you're not completely useless vs faraway targets

i actually can't make void work for me

i think im too shit at aiming

[plush glacier]

hahaha

yeah that'll do it

I have a 9.9/10 voidstrike

I just wish I had the trauma equivalent

my trauma is a solid 9

[half turtle]

trauma has been just my straight up favorite weapon in the game ever since i started playing again

literally good in every situation against every enemy

[plush glacier]

except mutie, but yeah

it's my favorite too

[half turtle]

yeah that's true, but only surge is good against mutie

[plush glacier]

I didn't like it until the buff

[half turtle]

well "good" because you'll literally overheat before you kill it

[plush glacier]

and until I slapped warp flurry on it

tier 4 warp flurry on trauma is too fun

[olive ember]

I’ll stop saying surge is amazing when the game stops spawning Triple mutie with a pox burster and a trapper

[plush glacier]

the way I feel about surge is

I'm always happy to have a surge psyker on my team; I feel safe

but I don't want to be a surge psyker

[feral verge]

i feel less safe

cuz i have internalized mistrust

the noobiest psykers i've seen in damnation were almost universally surge users

[olive ember]

That’s a fucking lie

[plush glacier]

that seems like a separate issue

[feral verge]

typically using 2 or more wounds

[olive ember]

Do you know how many purge and voidstrike scrubs I’ve seen

[feral verge]

nah fr

in my experience it's been the case

[plush glacier]

anyone can be bad with any staff

it's wild to claim otherwise

[half turtle]

purg feels like the noobiest staff to me in terms of the players

but idk

[feral verge]

no i know that

[olive ember]

In damn I see a bunch of AB voidstrike players

And they are bad

[feral verge]

im saying in my experience, i've noticed the worst psykers i played with tended to use surge

the type that couldnt handle melee combat

or blew up multiple times a round

[plush glacier]

sometimes you just have to blow up

it feels good

[feral verge]

that's true

[half turtle]

maybe they were all going for the achievement

[feral verge]

if you see a psyker with 2 or more wounds in damnation, running surge, it's a noob guaranteed

[plush glacier]

trauma and void are the most fun for me, explosions are more fun than zapping or burning

[half turtle]

isn't 2 the default number of wounds

[orchid nest]

surge is much better now tbh than previously with bb being good and the new force swords rounding it out

[half turtle]

is it even possible not to have 2 wounds

[plush glacier]

I think he means 2 wound relics

[half turtle]

oohh

yeah ok duh lol

[feral verge]

by 2 or more owunds,, i mean wound curios

yee