on t4
#psyker-class
radiant lance
Unless it affects your other weapons as well?
feral verge
the lower your warp resist stat, the better
radiant lance
Isn't it just 5% more?
radiant lance
Say what.
spice veldt
at 20/40/60/80% peril thresholds, you gain a stack
faint vault
Affects AB casts while the weapon is out. Same as slaugtherer.
spice veldt
it's just a classic example of fatshark description-itis
radiant lance
It doesn't say anywhere it stacks. Dafuq.
feral verge
with a few stacks of unstable power (and no warp charges) you can 1 shot head shot muties
with the 2nd heavy on deimos
(no special charge up)
just a straight up heavy attack
pygex demonstrates it on his vid here
feral verge
Oh mankar just linked it <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
yeah
faint vault
That is the most beautiful video I've ever seen.
feral verge
stay in malice, buddy
near wyvern
That is the most beautiful video I've ever seen.
Thank you sibling
near wyvern
stay in malice, buddy
Haven't played a match of malice since December
radiant lance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlUkBoKxY10
Insane
near wyvern
The extra wound is because I mainly pug and people are idiots
feral verge
ive palyed malice on my pskyer alt
radiant lance
Why bother with Slaughterer though? You aren't really killing hordes with it or anything.
feral verge
i pug too
radiant lance
Might as well have Deflector, no?
faint vault
Why bother with Slaughterer though? You aren't really killing hordes with it or ...
That's true, but it serves well in a pinch - if you have to cut through a few hundred heretics.
near wyvern
Also it feels nice to get shot by a sniper through floor with no sound and laser. It's also for bull shit moments like those.
idle bay
Yes
https://youtu.be/zlUkBoKxY10
That reminds that i need to farm for perfect Deimos
faint vault
Might as well have Deflector, no?
Deflector is already built into it. (crossing fingers they won't change that)
near wyvern
I have unstable power and deflector on mine in preparation for the fix
cloud sequoia
Will get changee in 2 update 
faint vault
Shhhh
radiant lance
Deflector is already built into it. (crossing fingers they won't change that)
Wat.
Only on the Deimos?
faint vault
I'm living in a sweet, sweet fairytale world where we get to keep built in bullet blocking.
spice veldt
they used some old code for the new force swords
faint vault
Illisi and Deimos
near wyvern
Only on the Deimos?
Illisi as well
radiant lance
Ha. Well that is definitely getting nerfed.
faint vault
Shhhhhhh
spice veldt
hence why the illisi and deimos have that old bug where swapping to them makes you move faster momentarily
cyan notch
no point playing malice now since damnation is best for mats
radiant lance
Classic FS.
near wyvern
Also don't tell Fatshark, wildfire procs off from bodies as well. Too bad it's still shit.
faint vault
Hehe
cyan notch
either sedition for contracts or damnation for abything else
radiant lance
When that shit gets nerfed, ya'll replacing Slaughterer or Unstable Power with Deflector?
spice veldt
no
faint vault
Keeping both.
spice veldt
I don't get much mileage out of Deflector anyways
spice veldt
dodge-slides babyyyy
radiant lance
dodge-slides babyyyy
Only with Deimos you can do it infinitely though.
Others get you only 2 dodge slides
spice veldt
all blaze force swords have infinite dodges
faint vault
Yup
radiant lance
Oh.
spice veldt
it's been that way since the beginning for the Obscurus
faint vault
The dodges on the others are shorter though
near wyvern
Deflector is totally not mandatory since you have infinite dodges. The only real use for it is to cover a revive when there is a bunch of ranged in front.
faint vault
Deimos is the only one with a positive dodge value.
radiant lance
Deflector is totally not mandatory since you have infinite dodges. The only real...
Which is quite useful
spice veldt
most map sections usually have the ranged enemies in an easily accessible area except for the initial section of chasm terminus
run up to their ass and melee lock them
whole oxide
people keep saying this, but blast radius on trauma only really affects the outer-radius which does no damage, not the epicentre which actually does damage
spice veldt
blast radius scales the epicentre radius from 1.5 to 2.5
so it is indeed important on the trauma
I think you are confounding the values of the voidstrike with trauma
whole oxide
no, not at all
sure, you don't want 0% on trauma
but the difference betwee 60% and 80% isn't going to be noticable
spice veldt
and you should keep in mind that the outer area interrupts shooters
even if you don't deal damage, you can usually make some space against shooters
and the stagger can be important for the finales of ammo raid/excise vault or hab dreyko
if not the stagger, then why bother using the Trauma staff?
whole oxide
i'd much rather have charge-time and warp-resistance, they scale much better
spice veldt
or you can sacrifice damage
whole oxide
difference between 1s charge and 2.5s charge is huuuuuuuuge
spice veldt
since you only need 60% damage to hit certain breakpoints
saying that blast radius is important is not mutually exclusive with saying that charge time is also important
near wyvern
Which is quite useful
Useful yes, but not mandatory. I have it on mine since I only really use Deimos to deal with mutants and dogs so I have +block cost reduction on it as well. It's the dedicated mobility/defence stick with the added capability of one shotting mutants 
spice veldt
you're preaching to the choir when you say that charge rate is the most important
whole oxide
I'd still put damage, charge, and warp-res above it, which makes it hard to say its important
spice veldt
why damage?
you're not using the trauma staff for DPS
and 60% damage (ignoring warp charges) is enough to hit the necessary breakpoints
whole oxide
i've not worked out the breakpoints, but being able to partially-charge and still kill a stalker is pretty desirable
spice veldt
run +flak on your trauma then
it's why I recommend people to run +unarmoured and +flak
the damage can be made up with perks, and you are usually charging it full or close to full for the AoE against shooters
and if it's just a few shooters, just dodge slide to them
360 damage and +25% unarmoured is enough to one-shot dreg bruisers (450 HP) for example
either way, the stagger of the trauma staff is much more important to me than whatever damage you're going to do with it (with the exception of the beast of nurgle) especially when you can hit the necessary breakpoints against stalkers/shooters/bruisers with +damage perks
whole oxide
also the circle that appears on the ground doesn't change with blast-radius, its always the same, which makes it harder to really leverage
spice veldt
yeah that sucks
wish they made it scale
i usually just test it in the meat grinder blasting near some non-elites/specials
but it's not as though I'm specifically using the outer area optimally
just that bigger number = better
gilded viper
what with gun psyker double dripping ammo crate
spice veldt
and the scaling of the outer radius is from 2 to 10 meters
vagrant frigate
<:Deadge:962764472752177202> what with gun psyker double dripping ammo crate
me
game i got out of
gun psyker
gilded viper
yes 
gloomy gulch
I guess I should learn how to dodge?
gilded viper
didn't get ammo once
feral verge
I guess I should learn how to dodge?
rip
gilded viper
surprise that run went so smoothy tho
feral verge
nothing
gloomy gulch
oh no
feral verge
bricked
feral verge
precog is awful
leaden thunder
riposte is ok
feral verge
riposte is meh
whole oxide
swap precog for slaughter/unstable and +specialist to +flak, and that's a great deimos
feral verge
it'd be decent
but not great
it'd be good if riposte worked on all dodges, but no. you actually have to dodge an attack. the game can be choosy if you dodged an attack or not
gloomy gulch
is the second one better then or is shred also a bit meh
feral verge
shred is better than riposte
whole oxide
ya, but both the perks suck
gloomy gulch
fair enough
near wyvern
I guess I should learn how to dodge?
I tried the proc mechanic on these. Basically you need to have an enemy start an attack and then you dodge and if they go through with it and miss it procs. That being said it's extremely hard to get to proc reliably outside of fighting some monstrosities or elites as people will stagger the mobs, which means no procs.
feral verge
Ive found that to be the case too
Before these swords came out, I was rocking a dueling sword
Which had riposte
And it rarely procc'd
cyan notch
theres a sound cue for when u dodged correctly i think
near wyvern
Even if you stagger the mob with your own attacks in the middle of their attack animation while you dodge, no proc.
feral verge
They should just make it proc on dodge
near wyvern
They have to miss a swing or it won't proc. No swing so nothing to miss.
ruby plover
fatshark please make the interesting blessings not mostly doggers thank u
not that precog is particularly interesting
hardy fog
game i got out of
How you get a scoreboard?
idle bay
What !?
And there are many more things that will make you gaming hours in Karktide more pleasant 🙂
ruby plover
reroll mod...
idle bay
lord have mercy upon me
I've seen one Sibling that did it himself without asking anyone in team for help 🙂 I heartily congratulated him when he announced that it's was done 🙂
I'd recommend LFG channel and group for it to save on hours of visting a shrink after it.
And it might sound crazy - but shotgunners and gunners are best candidates for that penance - tell group to push them into a nice pile and go boom
feral verge
last psyker penance i need is going out with a bang
Don't have kinetic flayer equipped.
lunar hollow
ive done every other penance in the game with randoms and i will do this one as well
idle bay
Chasm Terminus right at the start is just made for that Penance 🙂 AND DISABLE KINETIC FLAYER!
feral verge
When I had a few fellas help me here, kinetic flayer robbed me the first time
lunar hollow
im just gonna wait 800 years and try it on comms plex
at the midpoint where 4-5 gunners always spawn
feral verge
It activated on my explosion, and BB'd a shotgunner
lunar hollow
lmfao
crystal jolt
im just gonna wait 800 years and try it on comms plex
comms plex is where I got it on a pub game
idle bay
Well at least cliffhanger now is just 7 istead of 20... Young siblings nowdays are saved at least from this kind of frustration
crystal jolt
take a purg, charge your BB to 100 then l1 with purg to instant explode.
idle bay
Or Use ILLisi MK V - rub it 5 times and go boom 🙂
crystal jolt
purg lets you soften the elites beforehand
cuz the explosion damage depends on their distance
from you
lunar hollow
appreciate the advice
crystal jolt
i should list that video
put it on pornhub
idle bay
i should list that video
It needs to be pinned 🙂
velvet crescent
Need to check here is deflector standard w/ every force sword for now?
cyan notch
no
feral verge
illisi and deimos, but its a confirmed bug
cyan notch
only the new ones
idle bay
Most likely will get fixed anyway.
idle bay
Also that non-stop sword-rubbing seems like a bug as well, since it's the only sword when you can Finish that fast.
summer prairie
It might be but they specifically removed the special action cooldown in 1.0.40
cyan notch
why just illisi tho
summer prairie
The cooldown was like 3s, I guess it was too long for heavy special spam and decided to remove it, perhaps not considering that you can also use it to raise your peril very quickly.
idle bay
Fatshark slowly started allowing us to have nice things then?
orchid nacelle
psyker psykinetic
gloomy gulch
3rd consecration today, Ill just use this one for now until I get slaughterer 3+
lunar hollow
last psyker penance i need is going out with a bang
that was way easier than expected
ran ahead on malice, found 3 shotgunners, grouped them up, then exploded
idle bay
ran ahead on malice, found 3 shotgunners, grouped them up, then exploded
Full Penance Drip now?
gloomy gulch
3rd consecration today, Ill just use this one for now until I get slaughterer 3+
turns out if I get a BB with a charge attack with this it one shots a crusher
hazy shard
near crow
last psyker penance i need is going out with a bang
It's really easy on Throneside's espionage mission
They throw shotgunners at you like crazy in the first interrogator room
idle bay
compared to heresy
It takes a certain confident mindset to get into Damnation public games 🙂 Also most chill and friendly players.
viral solstice
It takes a certain confident mindset to get into Damnation public games 🙂 Also ...
the secret is not confidence, its hatred of the living. u arent trapped in there with them, they are trapped in there with u
feral verge
any tips on getting more consistent headshots?
feral verge
sometimes i feel like im dead on, but it's a bodyshot
viral solstice
its basically 50% of the area that will give headshot
feral verge
should i aim higher, or lower?
viral solstice
the thrust must be comin at a funny angle
might be
rather
have u meatgrindered it
feral verge
not much, no
viral solstice
well i dont actually play this vdieogame, i play only meatgrinder
i shall inwestigate
feral verge
i am interested in seeing your meatgrinder build
viral solstice
tbh i didnt play missions for like 10 days
but then sniper mode came out
and sniper mode is so much fun
lunar hollow
a tale in two parts
feral verge
snonber
viral solstice
snubnebrnm
lunar hollow
never thought i'd see the day a paul zealot and a laspistol vet (who magdumped into poxwalkers) would shit talk me
viral solstice
if i was that laspistol vet i woulda magdumped into poxwalkers too
why?
because fuck em i got a gun
lunar hollow
i wouldnt waste time typing
feral verge
ik but
i want to feel that maybe if i say sometihng
they'll be like
huh
then look it up
and ifnd out everyone hates shieldgryns
i want to feel like im saving them
summer prairie
more things to kill for me, what's there not to like
presumably people aren't playing hi/shock to farm mats
viral solstice
ok mankar heres my conclusion
the thrust comes from down right
aim at the down right of the head
and its 100%
viral solstice
so its a lil down and right tend there and u will gettem
feral verge
i appreciate you
viral solstice
but its a pretty big area
so lower right of the top 2/3 is how i would put it
i think just avoiding the left side is enough to get it for u
ill give u an example of a white hit on the left side and then a little bit after an equivalent right side hit getting the hs
thats a headshot
that isnt
leaden thunder
eviserate
viral solstice
if u want to do it while also dodging dodge right
u can see how generous the hitbox is here
leaden thunder
oh yeah crab would you say this shitty drawing is accurate for the sprint bullet immunity
feral verge
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/12BKWnpPzxayoW/d1337RG7EoE...
exceedingly helpful
ty ty ty crabo
viral solstice
oh yeah crab would you say this shitty drawing is accurate for the sprint bullet...
yes
i have measured the angles
roughly
i would say its 2 60 degree pies
leaden thunder
leaden thunder
goldilocks principle
gloomy gulch
3rd consecration today, Ill just use this one for now until I get slaughterer 3+
I put maniac on this one and it slaps
leaden thunder
yeah when I tested pretty much if I could see the shooter I took damage(other then turning all the way around)
viral solstice
but some people play on crackhead fov so
late yew
what should i replace here?
feral verge
combat ability regen
hexed wedge
^
feral verge
even the t4 combat ability regen is worthless
late yew
Also how the hell sustained fire works
late yew
keep ur 2% cdr for the style points
i like this
So what you guys think about BB build
and generally what talents would you take with Void
lunar hollow
Full Penance Drip now?
im 4 missions away from having done 100 as psyker
once i get that i'll have the penance drip
feral verge
@viral solstice i can do it way more consistently now
viral solstice
feral verge
@ruby plover
viral solstice
feral verge
i didnt actually want this sword, just farming for t4 unstable power
but this is horrible
lunar hollow
exorcist peril quelling counts for quietude right?
spice veldt
case in point--battle meditation not working properly with quietude before the recent patch
near wyvern
i am loving the 1 shot mutie stab
It's amazing isn't it. Feels so good to just tell the mutant to fuck off.
near wyvern
any tips on getting more consistent headshots?
You gotta practice it. If you are going to do it from the front, you gotta release it early enough for the mutant to not grab you. The safest way is to be near a wall, dodge to side and then stab either through the back or from the side.
feral verge
You gotta practice it. If you are going to do it from the front, you gotta relea...
my favorite is doing it head on
the issue i was having was just missing the headshot
i'd hit the body instead, sometimes
but crabbo showed me where to aim, and i'm having more success with the headshot now
long osprey
If you use quicken and essence harvest do you get 60% toughness back everytime you get a warp charge?
Since you get 2x charge with quicken
feral verge
no
long osprey
Lame
still hearth
Peril Quell is just so freeing.
long osprey
Does it work with passive quell too?
feral verge
yes
still hearth
Any quelling.
still hearth
They fixed it for Battle Meditation too
feral verge
so im literally a psyker flamer zealot
still hearth
So now it works on that
long osprey
Gonna have to roll another sword that quell on hit
near wyvern
Yeah battle Medi was huge fix cause you proc it surprisingly often
feral verge
Gonna have to roll another sword that quell on hit
obviously, its best with t4 exorcist
because its 5% peril on hit
long osprey
I got a shit ton of materials on my psyker so I don’t mind
feral verge
and 5% peril is what quietitude procs off of
feral verge
im a big fan of this illisi
long osprey
And with the sword you empty your peril easily with a horde in front of you
feral verge
And with the sword you empty your peril easily with a horde in front of you
yeah
with my setup, i get instant damage boost, or instant toughness gain on demand
its very, very comfy
late yew
So what you think on this build with void/trauma?
ruby plover
precog 1 uncanny 1 inbound
feral verge
praying for you homie
feral verge
atleast the perk is solid
ruby plover
already better than i thought 
spice veldt
shame, you really want to aim for that t1 precog
feral verge
my main illisi has t4 exorcist on it
but i dont actually own the blessing
and i am never gonna delete that main sword for it
should i get this? hmm
feral verge
cuz i dont need it rn, just figured i'd wait for emperor's gift
north cradle
High Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet is insane
feral verge
i like staying at 8k, so i never run into a situation of no having enough milkies
feral verge
High Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet is insane
yeah its my fav mode
fierce sinew
I stay around 3.5k just so I never accidentally lock myself out of purg warp nexus
but if there's more than one thing you're actively looking for higher makes sense
feral verge
here's scoreboard from one today
oh
this could be legitemately promising
i was ready to sell it
i sell all sub 350s, pretty much
aww
perks leave alot to be dsired
ornate hamlet
least you clown a bit more on mutants
twilit finch
Siblings, your collective opinions on the deimos sword? I found it to my liking
north cradle
I actually like it more than the Illisi, which I wanted out of a Force Sword this whole time
twilit finch
Light1 chaining into heavy 2 is fab
leaden thunder
and the illisi is an off brand power sword
gloomy gulch
check out this gun I just got... on my psyker
leaden thunder
which is to say
gloomy gulch
north cradle
Maybe I'll change my mind again once we get Force Zweihanders, but I love the OP stabbiness of the Deimos
leaden thunder
get deathspitter/dumdum and you have a fun gun at leas
twilit finch
I feel like the illisi has more reach than the vet power sword
leaden thunder
I was mostly joking when I said that tbf
north cradle
I thought so too, it feels like it has longer range
still hearth
It might be because Psyker moves around more thanks to dodges
twilit finch
Maybe that's why you only get one charged swing
spice veldt
or being able to overextend way more than vets can
gloomy gulch
get deathspitter/dumdum and you have a fun gun at leas
I actually had dumdum 4 on a low level weapon on my zealot
nice nice
north cradle
Man I wish the mutators were purely random. I don't like these Global Conditions
feral verge
then i 'd be forgoing unstable power iv, for when i get then
which could be never, at this rate
already been trying to get it for a month
wrong pic
here we go
gloomy gulch
this is how I felt getting HT 4 on my heavy sword
keep fighting the good fight my dude
leaden thunder
shrimply have better rng
gloomy gulch
I crafted an unholy amount of heavy swords to get that
leaden thunder
I got it from melk man
feral verge
hmmmmmm
leaden thunder
i've gotten like 2 good blessigns from melk on my zealot
sluaght 4 for the thunder hammers and headtaker 4
gloomy gulch
yeah my zealot is pretty unlucky with melk I feel like
but its all good
lucky in other parts of the game I suppose
leaden thunder
yep, like trying to get a better version of a lot of my weapons just feels impossibly
near wyvern
I would just keep the blessings until you get unstable 4. Expecting them to remove the built in Deflector
feral verge
I would just keep the blessings until you get unstable 4. Expecting them to remo...
too late
i thought about it and decided i wanted the toughness regen
gloomy gulch
wait
digital loom
good god
late yew
Do you get better rewards for doing high intensity mission?
near wyvern
it has built in deflector
Deimos and Illis have built in Deflector yes. 99% sure it's a bug.
near wyvern
this thing generates 37% peril per charge up lmao
BiS
feral verge
yeeep
i love warp resist
it makes we worried about red weapons tho, in the future
cuz i dont want to upgrade to red
and have it boost peril resist
warp resist*
near wyvern
Suffering from success, psyker life
feral verge
lets take it straight into hi5
digital loom
even if they change deflector to be standard
i dont have it locked on my deimos, and i'll probably use whatever they rework it too anyway for the extra block efficiency
late yew
cuz i dont want to upgrade to red
there are no red weapons..?
vagrant frigate
english major spotted
leaden thunder
3d artist in the bio
true shadow
criminal justice degree though
enjoy codetext
goodbye now i must play high intensity damnations for 24 hours
leaden thunder
have fun
true shadow
yeah for once i will
psyker is fun now :)
lunar hollow
psyker has always been fun you just needed to hate yourself before
low parrot
Whats a good melee build on Psyker?
true shadow
yeah no shit that's why i played so much psyker
true shadow
Whats a good melee build on Psyker?
you can make pretty much anything work right now. go wild
low parrot
Anything 
lunar hollow
for my crimes against croatian children i have been sentenced to only playing psyker
true shadow
uh yeah pretty much anything.
lunar hollow
Anything <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
devils claw is definitely the best
sword :)
leaden thunder
source?
lunar hollow
i made it the fuck up
true shadow
it came to me in a dream
leaden thunder
digital loom
dont trust someone who majored in a language that isn't math
idle bay
english major spotted
English Major is a most depressing diploma in english speaking county. Now you know that no one around you using english language right way 🙂
digital loom
yes its true
forbidden knowledge is knowledge that looks good on the outside but really lowers your enjoyment of day to day life
true shadow
i have adhd, all of my knowledge is forbidden.
fierce sinew
any major that forces you to read is going to lay bare what absolute donkeys you rub shoulders with on a daily basis
idle bay
And my advise - don't go deep into the advanced math. As soon as you realise that you can understand it - STOP and erase it from you memory, or there will be no going back for you. Have you seen a normal mathematician? 🙂
idle bay
forbidden knowledge is knowledge that looks good on the outside but really lower...
And worst part - i'm not a native english speaker. But from outside perspective - i can see that phenomena 🙂
digital loom
forbidden knowledge can cause ptsd
digital loom
either its because you're not supposed to talk about it, or those around you are too ignorant to understand it
true shadow
Yes,
digital loom
the b est way to avoid this is to use thought terminating phrases like "it is what it is"
idle bay
forbidden knowledge can cause ptsd
And it can be abused 🙂 Complex sentences are qualified as Forbidden knowledge in English. Only English majors know how approximately correct to use them....
true shadow
i'm weapon
true shadow
the b est way to avoid this is to use thought terminating phrases like "it is wh...
"that's life"
idle bay
So you can do whatever you want with complex sentences in English - almost no one will notice mistakes. Conjunction of times for complex sentences in English - that is some insanity on insanity, and when i noticed that my English teacher (UN interpreter) often can't detect errors in them unless they are written not spoken - at that moment i knew what to do 🙂
fierce sinew
"the first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club"
digital loom
the reason nobody notices mistakes is because without prior knowledge, your brain can fill in the gaps with guesswork to direct you to the right interpretation, but at the same time such things can be dangerous if you are used to accepting and self interpreting vague statements.
since a sociopath can drive you to the conclusions that they want you to make with vague statements
idle bay
To the contrary to English language when you slightly mess up a complex sentence in Russian - everyone will know that you messed up 🙂 Grammar and Syntax are nightmarish things in it....
digital loom
yeah, english is a pretty good language
there's a reason the countries that speak it held the top spots in history for a long time
pearl lion
It's partly because a lot of the time english has a subjective correct order of operations, but it can still be correct if you do it "wrong"
digital loom
easy to use means easy to think
pearl lion
e.g.
I went to the park
To the park I went
digital loom
its easy to use but insane to master
pearl lion
Also english is like 12 languages in a trenchcoat pretending to be a single Germanic language
digital loom
how do you do fellow languages
idle bay
the reason nobody notices mistakes is because without prior knowledge, your brai...
Best thing i experienced - Drunk English conversation! It happened long time ago. There was a banquet for some International Social Services meeting or something. At that time a barely able to speak it (but understand it well enough) and old guy from Sweden can barely speak it too. But we drank a quite a bit of whiskey, and started to speak and understand each other without any problem, even started to tell stories and anecdots!
feral verge
yeah i fuck with this thing
joined hi5 mid round
its waaay easier to maintain high peril with it
even tho my previous sword had low warp resist
now on the opposite end of the weapon rating spectrum...
good thing i didnt actually want this sword
lovingly bricked, by hadron
pearl lion
"I trust you are pleased."
idle bay
how do you do fellow languages
Only way to do them really is by everyday practice with some initial study. Otherwise it get stuck on level "My name is ..."
void mural
Does the sustained fire blessing work on staff RMB attacks, or only LMB?
valid scaffold
Hey everyone which ones of these should I grab?
twilit flicker
Hey everyone which ones of these should I grab?
The one on the right, you could always collect Nexus if you find a better base.
lethal folio
Sustainted fire is just lmb damage. It should be charge up but it doesn't work.
void mural
ok, that's what I figured
magic burrow
I played a gunpsyker game with the shredder, and an ogryn started yelling at me that I wasnt playing the game right and I was taking all his ammo. I think I picked up a grand total of three ammo boxes. The dude was using some whack ass shrapnel slinging thing and was chewing through his ammo like crazy
I mean the game throws ammo at you like its candy and this guy still didnt have enough
lunar hollow
kickback?
that and rumbler are super ammo hungry
if you run an ammo hungry weap you gotta accept that other people are gonna as well
wheat olive
I got a sword with 379 base stats! How can I improve it further from here?
I was thinking of replacing +20% block efficiency with a damage bonus against Infested, but what to do with Blessing?
viral solstice
well the sad part is that sword has deflector built in due to a bug
however, uncanny strike is not amazing either
so probs u would go deflector/slaughterer and prep for the deflector nerf on the new force swords if they do
and swap the blefficiency for whatever you want (maniacs, flak, etc)
magic burrow
theyll fix the deflector eventually
wheat olive
Gotcha, I think I'll keep deflector since this sword has really good base stats and I'll likely be using it long term
Time to grind for slaughterer 3
I got lucky with that sword, I bought 4 from Brunt's armory and that one was the 4th
Upgraded it from grey to what you see there
digital loom
I was thinking of replacing +20% block efficiency with a damage bonus against In...
block efficiency good in my opinion
lets you use deflector/block without kinetic deflector
i have 63~ block efficiency and a stamina curio and i dont get block broken and take damage
wheat olive
hmm does the 20% block efficiency let me block more projectiles?
viral solstice
ye
gloomy gulch
I believe so
digital loom
i gap close all the time and my stamina tends to regen before i lose it vs everything except gunners
viral solstice
wheat olive
ah, that's not bad then... there's some decent synergy on this sword
digital loom
doesnt seem to work vs snipers tho
ruby plover
i can't remember the last time i rolled a good blessing on an illi
viral solstice
snipers shooting railgun
feral verge
just gonna share my shieldgryn sword, for the 90th time
viral solstice
cant block that
gloomy gulch
I honestly dont think deflector works with snipers or I would have been alive a lot more
viral solstice
i suspect that the sniper shot has the equivalent of the guard break tag
feral verge
deflector does not block sniper
clear heath
ogryn shield does tho
viral solstice
does it stam drain or just ignore
wheat olive
I honestly dont think deflector works with snipers or I would have been alive a ...
tbh I think that's a good thing mechanic wise otherwise someone could just tank sniper aggro while the others kill it
feral verge
does it stam drain or just ignore
i dont remember
but you take full damage
i tried it in a game a few weeks ago
viral solstice
probs just ignores
clear heath
oh i should try it again with the new force swords
what if the bugged deflector works differently
like maybe it's using some old cursed code where they just block snipers by default
lunar hollow
if i swap out run n gun is this worth anything
ornate hamlet
quite nice
lunar hollow
i have a bunch of emperor's gifts staffs
ornate hamlet
get flak on the weak spot and a decent blessing to replace run and gun and boom
maybe the funny crit blessing
ornate hamlet
surge deals a generous amount of damage to flak and carapace
lunar hollow
also this one
pearl lion
i have a bunch of emperor's gifts staffs
Emprah must love you. I almost exclusively get guns and non force melee
lunar hollow
well
i got them all when i started playing psyker after i hit level 30
now all i get is IAGs
worn ravine
warp res or mobility for dump stat?
pearl lion
Like cool big E ill definitely use this lasgun
pearl lion
Res. You actually want it low
lunar hollow
warp res or mobility for dump stat?
warp res
feral verge
the lower, the better
pearl lion
If youre doing quietude that is
ruby plover
also like
pearl lion
If not then you want it high
ruby plover
yeah yeah mobility scaling but illi dodge needs every last bit it can get 💀
feral verge
If youre doing quietude that is
and warp unleashed and unstable power and kinetic shield
ruby plover
give me that 5% dodge distance i need it
lunar hollow
all we need is wrack and ruin to not be something mostly useless and all the t2 feats will be good
though inner tranq is kinda meh with quietude existing
feral verge
inner tranq only worth considering with trauma staff
pearl lion
I still dont have a t4 perk for VS, its killing me
leaden thunder
just use the demios
young spear
i do
pearl lion
The dueling swords are pretty nice, but FS are basically OP at the mo
young spear
i was just wondering what ppl thought of dueling swords
leaden thunder
they where always pretty bad outside of mobility imo
pearl lion
Actually yeah, I only ever used them on low difficulty during the beta
lethal folio
Imagine if the dueling stabs were at all comparable to deimos.
pearl lion
The mobility was a lot of fun, but yeah I can imagine them falling off hard on t3/4
leaden thunder
hopefully they buff them to that point soon
viral solstice
can u still do move tech with the dses
leaden thunder
I think they took that out a while ago
viral solstice
havent tried
pearl lion
To be honest I am very much expecting a nerf on the FSs
viral solstice
although
lethal folio
I'll just check.
viral solstice
so really duelling sword is out of the meta smh
leaden thunder
far from op
pearl lion
IMO they are the best melee in the game
lethal folio
There is a lot of powercreep going on recenlty, but dueling sword still below the curve.
pearl lion
Better than powersword
leaden thunder
the only thing that'd get nerfed on them is sluaghterer
slaughterer takes good weapons and makes them broken strong
pearl lion
Yeah that might be it
I've been trying out the heavy sword on zealot for example and it's just complete piss compared to the Illisi
leaden thunder
do you have headtaker + rampage on it
worn heath
yea dt's not quite as bad as vt's weapon builds where you put swift slaying on 99% of everything, but it's def developed that some blessings are far away must takes
pearl lion
Headtaker yes, can't remember if I have rampage
I find it quite weird that IMO zealot doesn't have an outstanding melee weapon
leaden thunder
I have a hsword with headtaker and rampage
wet jacinth
leaden thunder
and it def outpreforms the ilisi in it's role
which I have one with sluaghterer 4
wet jacinth
That opinion is very based and reeks of skill issue
pearl lion
Might be my setup
I just know that I can two shot LMB basically any trash with the Illisi and its fast
lethal folio
There is infact a movetech you can do with Dueling sword
pearl lion
Whereas it takes heavy and a light or two with the heavy sword
leaden thunder
the illisi will likely kill smaller groups faster, but the heavysword will turn hordes into mulch
lethal folio
If you are out of stamina running you can press the special stab button twice and you reset to full speed before decaying.
pearl lion
Maybe its just the unlimited dodges as well
I kind of just wish they'd buff the eviscirator and thunderhammer
lethal folio
See the slower sprint resets whenever you stop sprinting, you can do it with sliding and jumping too.
leaden thunder
the illisi def has advantages over the hsword, but it doesn't beat it in it's role
pearl lion
TH at least is getting its stun lowered
leaden thunder
I hope they buff both of those weapons yes
at least the ironhelm needs some buffs out of the Thammers(outside of the recoil reduction)
pearl lion
The frustrating thing is the eviscirator feels great in dif3
Then you hit dif4 and its like swinging a pool noodle
I do think they should bump up the carapace damage a bit too
on TH
Although I guess lowering the stun will help with that anyway
worn heath
just have to wait and see how the TH buffs pan out this week
leaden thunder
I pinged catfish earlier and I am hopping she responds, asking if the buff is also for the ironhelm
pearl lion
Alls I know is that I hope they don't nerf the FSs, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if they do
worn heath
well the deflector thing is getting removed that was marked as an acknowledged bug
spice veldt
i expect them to tune both the power sword and illisi down at the same time
pearl lion
they should nerf power sword first
Yeah realistically, it might not happen for a while. I imagine fun, a bit OP weapons are probably not their priority
digital loom
also this one
the secret to this staff is focused channeling,
you wont need it most of the time if you are positioning well, but you will feel it when you really need it
when getting this charged shot off is the make or break between a down
then you get it off and your toughness goes from 0 to 100 and you're good to go
shut prairie
Blazing Spirit any good?
digital loom
dunn\o
this is my trauma staff
and this is the average game it produces
save any truly sweaty gamers popping up
i dont really get many elite kills because when i blast them with staff once they get cleaned up
flamer already kills crushers good but if you hit em with rending shockwave they just vaporize immediately
just for the sake of playing with average players in solo queue damnation high intensity and beyond, its my most reliable staff
never runs out of ammo, can clean off allies, can soften armored enemies, friendly with the recon vet that shoots crushers, friendly with the ogryn that tries to bb crushers, makes everything wearing flak soft
due to fatshark coding, it actually hurts the damage of certain weapons, which is funny anyway
viral solstice
not any more d/w
digital loom
oh cool
viral solstice
they clamped it lol
but still ur reducing the stagger
so maybe thats screwing them
because rend breaks stagger
the stagger enemies take is scaled by rending % but i cant remember the exact way round
(in a negative way)
digital loom
oh, well trauma does shit tone of stagger anyway
digital loom
i aim to play successfully with noobs in damnation because i solo queue
i have gotten very strong as a result, recommend for everybody
digital loom
as long as you can keep at least one of them alive to de-dog or de-net you if the game does something funny, you are unstoppable
digital loom
just shoot em with plasma when he jumps
digital loom
i unironically use plasma all the time
digital loom
but the trick is to not play it the way its apparently intended to be played with reload reductions and etc etc
viral solstice
digital loom
take the long reload like a man and animation cancel it, dont give up your grenades for a firearm
grenades are love, grenades are life
the american approach to this game, that is to bomb the shit out of every heretic you see, happens to be the most effective
and even better, there's no friendly fire
olive ember
and?
viral solstice
one sec finding the clip
digital loom
dt ruined playing vt for me
because i keep trying to slide and getting mad that i cant
ornate hamlet
jsut thought of something funny
digital loom
when did kerillian become a domestic terrorist?
ornate hamlet
all or nothing is actually good on psyker because you have kinetic deflection
digital loom
who taught kerillian how to make pipe bombs?
ornate hamlet
elf friendly fire moment
digital loom
she must be on so many watch lists now
viral solstice
i think its just me
it was a very fun run tho
that team was just random guys and they didnt even get mad i killed them like 15x
ornate hamlet
gonna put infernus on this bad boy once i find it 
the revolver is wip because it has a dog shit blessing and unarmored/sprint
and it reminded me it still has the issues of hitting the arm and dealing dog shit damage that prevents one-hitting shooters
which is like the dumbest fucking thing ever when i shoot the unarmored arm of an unarmored guy with 20% extra damage and hes like "oh no... anyway"
with a revolver that hits like a hammer, holds 5 rounds, regens 1 from the vet aura and picks 8 from a tin
i totally want to waste shots, fatshark
i also am finding the damage falloff on the pistol a bit unfortunate because sometimes at mid range i will headshot a shooter with that specific laspistol and not get a kill
steep shuttle
I feel like Illisi is better than power sword
pearl lion
I feel like Illisi is better than power sword
I'd agree
ornate hamlet
power sword doesnt have finesse, does it?
ruby plover
here we go again baby 
this crafting system do be chunks huh
maybe it would be less chunks if there weren't so many shit options
digital loom
slaughter on deimos isnt needed
its better to pick something that works in duels
illisi on the other had needs slaughter
ornate hamlet
might be worth rerolling more to get a better first target if you want to clown on elites and specials
i wouldnt take anything less than 70% on it
it misses you a bit less than 8% damage on first target
near gale
lol I don't know whether to put t3 deflector or t3 Unstable Power on my force sword... the 9% block efficiency would be nice, honestly
near gale
I think the illisi has a built in deflector, atm
ornate hamlet
ayo, that finesse
lethal folio
Slaughterer uncanny deimos and you can rip through mixed hordes.
and then throw a light force attack and murder any passing elite
ornate hamlet
melk updates in a few minutes
orchid shadow
it's likely a bug anyways
As a bug it's weird. That means that a flag was left set on the new swords, but you'd figure that by default it would be off. If it's a config on the side that I would think it's just a copy paste of what the Obscurus is with stat tweaks, it having deflector sounds odd.
ornate hamlet
hopefully itll give me a good illisi, mk5 saber or laspistol
clear heath
it might just be old code
like maybe it used to be a thing for force swords in general
these swords could have been developed ages ago
ornate hamlet
eh
might be able to clown on hordes with finesse alone, but i dont like the blessings
orchid shadow
Oof, Melk seems to love trolling me with Surge blessing on Trauma staff.
ruby plover
im actually in awe
if i give hadron a good illi base
she finds ways to brick it that i didnt even know were real
the tier 2 weak spot damage
grizzled jasper
ornate hamlet
real talk tho why the fuck do dueling sword strike heavies do less damage than vanguard heavies
on everything but carapace, i add, which is straight up brain burst territory
gilded magnet
Not a big fan of the 54% dmg either ngl
forest coral
Rashad oh no
forest coral
funny head hitbox axe
dusky bear
peak grotto
Worth buying from Spoiled Milk? Stats aren't bad, I think
ruby plover
vagrant frigate
Worth buying from Spoiled Milk? Stats aren't bad, I think
yeah
nevermind
no
i mean if u have a high roll of nexus to put on it
ornate hamlet
when you warp
pearl lion
Dogs are number 2
ornate hamlet
fuck dogs
pearl lion
Because at least you can push them
forest coral
too late
pearl lion
Its kind of weird actually cause like, you can dodge weapon attacks reliably, but the grabby grabbers will screw you every time if you have any latency
forest coral
ultimate vibe check
pearl lion
Also mutant turning circles are cracked
Full sprint and they can pirouette like a fricken ballerina
forest coral
lol yeh
especially when they ignore the rest of the team in that circle just to go for your tender ass
pearl lion
M-mutant senpai
viral solstice
u think thats bad
forest coral
the fact they have no collision is stupid
viral solstice
ive been up against some wizard enemies
reginald
reginald is truly powerful
forest coral
what heck
twilit veldt
the amount of times i got ported outside of map by the fucking mutants, and the worst part is the game throws them at you like oprah "you get a mutant, you get a mutant, EVERYONE GETS A MUTANT" is fucking annoying as shit
spice veldt
i too dislike mutants https://streamable.com/t2z3nb
twilit veldt
to not get smacked you just gotta hug the nearest wall
feral verge
i too dislike mutants https://streamable.com/t2z3nb
LOW SETTING USER DETECTED. USER WITH BAD PC DETECTED. CAN WE BAN THIS GUY?
lunar hollow
i know warp resistance is bad on illisi but holy fuck finally something usable
twilit veldt
which you can abuse a bit, but it still sucks ass to be thrown around
twilit veldt
and is super dogshit when they throw you into a flamer or a sniper
feral verge
i know warp resistance is bad on illisi but holy fuck finally something usable
high warp resist isnt bad for some builds
it lets you spam the special
feral verge
its just a pain in the ass to keep high peril/reach high peril instantly
lunar hollow
total
feral verge
if you are peril damage maxing
lunar hollow
do i replace unarmored or maniac
feral verge
did you see my 300 item level godroll on deimos sword earlier today?
lunar hollow
yes
feral verge
i would put maniac to 25
lunar hollow
didnt that have like 11 warp resistance
feral verge
19
feral verge
it generates 37% peril
spice veldt
i'd personally replace unarmoured to flak
feral verge
i like infested and maniac on my FS
spice veldt
depends on whether you tend to use the illisi on maulers/scab ragers though
snow panther
whenever i jump onto my zealot i remember why i dont play him and hes still level 15
feels so bad
feral verge
whenever i jump onto my zealot i remember why i dont play him and hes still lev...
me with ogryn
lunar hollow
hm
twilit veldt
zealot is very fun
lunar hollow
the intention was to use it with autopistol
dont have an autopistol yet though
on psyker at least
twilit veldt
run around, burn things, the simple things in life
spice veldt
that's a problem
snow panther
i just feel impotent, whenever ranged appears i just get trashed if im out of position
lunar hollow
i'll leave the perks as-is for now and start working on getting an autopistol (and putting slaughterer on it)
snow panther
cant run, ghet staggered, special skill sucks
as melee i feel like i have to hide and cant ever actually charge in to melee
snow panther
yeh probably
twilit veldt
if you aim at something, it lets you run further, and iirc you dont get damaged during the running
feral verge
zealot is a very strong class
lunar hollow
imo
twilit veldt
so you can use it to dodge
lunar hollow
you cant judge a class until you hit 30 with it
feral verge
there's a reason why people paly it in solo/duo play
it has very high clutch potential
snow panther
yeh i just cant get a good feel for it
feral verge
probably the highest in the game
snow panther
play legend with many classes in VT2, and with zealot i feel like i have no clue how its supposed to be played xD
twilit veldt
slave away until you get eviscerator and flamer, then burn and rip everything that there is
snow panther
i have both those
lunar hollow
then realize that eviscerator is in a sorry state and run something else
snow panther
yeh lol
lunar hollow
(unless you just wanna play malice)
twilit veldt
ive not had issues with eviscerator tbh
snow panther
malice has been tough lately because the players in malice are waaaay more dicey than heresy
snow panther
heresy i always get a decent team
twilit veldt
then again i might be biased
feral verge
malice is the hardest difficulty
lunar hollow
malice high int is
twilit veldt
heresy makes me dead inside, damnation is fun but ive lost so many heresy runs to people doing dumb shit
feral verge
i want to have fun, and dont feel like carrying at level 9
snow panther
why u dont like heresy
twilit veldt
people
lunar hollow
i cant play anything below damnation unless doing penance runs
twilit veldt
damnation is better
lunar hollow
so much plasteel
snow panther
ive had a positive experience so far
feral verge
heresy is full of incompetent people trying to get out of malice
or just noobs in general
snow panther
interesting, ive not seen that much
feral verge
heresy is harder than damnation
snow panther
i havent tried damnation yet
feral verge
i havent tried damnation yet
that explains everything
snow panther
to me heresy feels like champion, so is damnation like legend?
feral verge
you will see it once you play damnation
oyu will see that games are usually higher quality, and that players tend to know their shit better. damnation players are also usually more chill
twilit veldt
shit chunks the fuck out of you on damnation, but atleast the people that play there are mostly competent
lunar hollow
oyu will see that games are usually higher quality, and that players tend to kno...
most of the time lol. had someone call me autistic today for not* letting the team go forward when a horde spawned
they wanted to fight the horde on that walkway before one of the assassination boss rooms
twilit veldt
heresy is like 2 outta 3 times i join and the entire team is wiped, with the monster active
lunar hollow
where all the shooters and elites spawn
pearl lion
Lmao that reminds me of when we were doing high intensity gauntlet, playing zealot and running back to save someone, having them run ahead with the rest of the party while I covered our back with the flamer
Then they just never slowed down
I was constantly holding off the horde/mountain of specials coming at us from behind
Then I get over VC "Keep up Gaia"
Eventually I get cornered by two flamers and a dog, completely out of ammo
Was very funny on reflection
