thanks, i just returned after a loooong break since release, but i went on a hi shock troop mission and got it first try lmfao
#psyker-class
honest drift
obtuse moth
thanks, i just returned after a loooong break since release, but i went on a hi ...
congrats!!!
light citrus
west galleon
Thats a nice skin
cloud sequoia
took me 10 min rolling flak 
fluid cove
It took me 451 rolls to get toughness regen the other day. Mods are wonderful.
light citrus
neat sand
Is that picture the ingame skin to?
topaz ice
is warp flurry any good on this staff?
thick carbon
is warp flurry any good on this staff?
Very
river sand
warp flurry is great on all staffs
rare furnace
Dripus psykeruz
forest coral
yes
late yew
Worth buying?
lavish oar
https://tenor.com/view/front-fell-off-not-normal-gif-27006005
More Normal then you would think
vestal raven
hmmmmmm worth a buy?
short mesa
More Normal then you would think
the joke is the guy says the front isnt supposed to fall off if youve seen the full clip
lavish oar
the joke is the guy says the front isnt supposed to fall off if youve seen the f...
There is a video?
short mesa
from the gif you replied on
lavish oar
Oh
outer wadi
any advice on how to do going out with a bang?
idle fog
What's the best blessing for the Force Sword?
Can you also only do rebless on the same type of weapon? or could i take an axe's blessing and put it on a force sword?
outer wadi
I'd say slaughterer, deflector and maybe bloodthirsty
You cannot put blessings on different weapons
if you want a blessing for a force sword you need to sacrifice a force sword.
idle fog
Gotcha thanks, haven't played since the big update
outer wadi
No worries man 😄 enjoy, try the new force swords. They are fun and strong
summer prairie
Shieldgryn + flamer zealot =
cyan notch
those look like 50min numbers
cyan notch
molten sparrow
Thanks
summer prairie
he was out of ammo for like the last third too. We couldn't get to the finale because he and the zealot couldn't kill anything and the specials were spawning faster than we were killing them
idle fog
No worries man 😄 enjoy, try the new force swords. They are fun and strong
Also, does a Force Sword's special attack count as a critical or does it have it's own critical chance?
summer prairie
and the other psyker was dead
outer wadi
Also, does a Force Sword's special attack count as a critical or does it have it...
It has its own crit chance
feral verge
What's the best blessing for the Force Sword?
slaughterer number 1, unstable power number 2
bloodthirsty is very meh now
you will get alot more damage with unstable power
unstable power stacks 4x
idle fog
Thanks
feral verge
t4 unstable power is 20% more power
it shines on force swords with low warp resistance
the lower, the better
you can charge it up for high peril, and get bigger damage on a single target, or use it to push a pox burster (or any other enemy) further
because power increases force sword push
feral verge
Thanks
this is what 41% warp resist looks like on the illisi sword
the special can be 'chain charged' to rapidly increase peril
unfortunately, the other swords are incapable of this
but you can still gain peril moderately quick with them if you charge the special, switch to staff, swap back to sword, charge the special, and swap to staff ect.
until high peril
cyan notch
nerf
feral verge
nerf
pls dont say that 😟
no, no they're defintely gonna give it to the other swords, i just know it
halcyon creek
So, I feel quite ineffective as a Psyker. My best weapon is a purga staff, but it takes forever to kill… so does the BB… I can’t mitigate incoming damage beyond short range, can’t suppress… feel weak in melee…
Is this just a perception thing? An I focusing on the wrong combat tasks? Or am I committing a tactical error and performing the wrong job?
frigid flame
So, I feel quite ineffective as a Psyker. My best weapon is a purga staff, but i...
Purga doesn’t take long to kill at all.
feral verge
purga needs ascendant blaze to really sihne
frigid flame
Take wildfire feat and ascendant blaze
feral verge
i'd take warp battery and ascendant blaze
feral verge
pygex did testing and found wildfire to be pointless
frigid flame
I found the opposite
halcyon creek
At the very least, A-blaze 
frigid flame
The lingering and self propagating fire giving me DOTs finishing enemies who otherwise would hit me is HUGE
feral verge
So, I feel quite ineffective as a Psyker. My best weapon is a purga staff, but i...
and dont use purga on bigger stuff alot, especially carapace enemies
halcyon creek
I did just poke around in my class build, maybe it’ll help
frigid flame
The best way to use flamestaff is to use M1 to stun and then m2 charge for flame attack then use back dodge to keep enemies at a distance
summer prairie
They specifically removed the cooldown from Illisi in 1.0.40
halcyon creek
Yeah, I go for BB on tough stuff
frigid flame
You need to dodge backwards while flaming
summer prairie
Could still be a mistake but probably not
feral verge
i'll post my build
frigid flame
Once you master that you master purga staff
frigid flame
Because dodging back doesn’t kick you out of flame animation so you can keep the heat coming all while avoiding damage of stuff that gets too close
halcyon creek
I like to squirt flames around my teammates, hoping the tick helps them smack the horde better
feral verge
definitely my best
halcyon creek
Does the flame suppress?
still hearth
Yes.
still hearth
The flames suppress every tick they're active.
summer prairie
purg has a massive suppress range/amount
feral verge
my psyker's name is Mai
halcyon creek
Ooooo, so flaming around my teammates probably does what I think it does (apart from blinding them 😅)
summer prairie
frigid flame
I like with the close range kill fear supression with the purga staff
summer prairie
close range fear suppression on purg does not work
frigid flame
Makes anything that gets close just shut right down in cower while you murder the horde
summer prairie
you just think it does because purg suppresses everything anyway
frigid flame
close range fear suppression on purg does not work
Does it not?
summer prairie
at least it does not in the grinder
halcyon creek
Dang, I got some irl stuff to do now. This week I’m doing the weeklies on my psyker, I’ll keep grinding and maybe get lucky In Brunt’s casino
summer prairie
it does 0 suppress on kill
still hearth
Only groaners can be suppressed
Out of the melee enemies.
And even if you trigger terrifying
It suppresses them for like half a second
It is absolutely garbage
frigid flame
Idk half a second is a lot when that’s all you need to quell really quick
still hearth
The only upside is if you kill a lot of enemies it procs repeatedly (I think) but the staff itself is what suppresses things
summer prairie
even if barrage worked, it wouldn't matter because your fire is suppressing them more. I guess it might slightly extend the range but probably nto due to how it works
feral verge
also, my strategy with purga is not to use it much
65% of the game, i run with melee out
killing stragglers
still hearth
It's one enemy type, the weakest of them, that you can easily stagger or kill in one burst.
frigid flame
Either way, Purga for me just works because it’s just burn and dodge and everything dies
feral verge
i whip the purga out to stagger an enemy, or a small group, here and there
then switch back to melee to kill
purga comes out when the horde comes
i pretty much play like a flamer zealot
frigid flame
Only thing that bothers me are crushers and I just pop their heads or give them a force sword stab
That usually does some work
feral verge
purga is definitely the best overall staff imo
leaden thunder
terrifiyng barrage reminds me of fan the flames, where is makes you think it is doing more then it is, but it's actually just the base weapon doing it
feral verge
yee terrifying barrage bad
frigid flame
I find the new single target sword to be incredible because you can chain the light attack opening stab RIGHT into a heavy attack stab and in grinder that does the same damage as a head pop about 1.2k
frigid flame
You can get that attack off quicker than an actual head pop
feral verge
another psyker got pushed into DH
he died
then it went after me
and i just started nonstop dodging in a circle around it, with deimos sword
in wide open ground
no obstructions/boxes
atfirst i thought i was just lucky
but no, it died after 1 minute or so
feral verge
it didnt hit me once
and i dont know its attack patterns by heart
so i was surprised
idk if its just the deimos that can do that, with it's great dodge distance
but definitely requires a force sword, cuz infinite dodges
summer prairie
These perks are so sad
summer prairie
The maniacs roll probably doesn't matter, but annoying regardless
feral verge
feral verge
The maniacs roll probably doesn't matter, but annoying regardless
yee
sad
i decided to leave this game lol
shieldgryn with 3 wounds
going for the charge 6 ogryn penances
i saw him yesterday, too
i told him to come in here and get a group to help him do it
cuz its way easier/better to do in a premade group, instead of a pug
karmic copper
Am i doing something wrong with deimos FS? Everyone comments about the light heavy combo. Light 1 stab dissapears into a light 2 heavy 2 combo, like the billhook in verm 2. Verm 2 billhook light 1 wasnt part of the chain after continued swinging. So its actually l1 h2 l2 h2 l2 h2 l2 etc... foe deimos?
The light 2 is rippin fast so i could swe if that was the combo people comment on.
cyan notch
Am i doing something wrong with deimos FS? Everyone comments about the light hea...
u gotta qq or block cancel after heavy stab if you want light stab again
i just block cancel it
you can just light heavy repeat without cancelling if you are lazy since the heavy stab does the most
near wyvern
These perks are so sad
Ruined :/
near wyvern
Am i doing something wrong with deimos FS? Everyone comments about the light hea...
If you press sprint at any point after the first 2nd heavy it will for some reason cancel the move into 2nd light 1st heavy.
So during your first light heavy you can sprint but after that don't touch print unless you qq cancel or block cancel and start the chain from the beginning.
But yes the first light is only present ont the opener, then it's the diagonal light but it's so fast you just go through it to get to the 2nd heavy which is what hits like a truck.
tropic lagoon
Does unlocking Warp Nexus from one staff not unlock it on the others?
near wyvern
Nope
tropic lagoon
Does every weapon type work that way? Or do some weapons "share" blessings?
near wyvern
All staves have different blessing pools so nothing carries over. Insert sad noises.
Weapons that have the same belssing pool share unlocks. But it has to be exactly the same. Even 1 blessing of difference and it's not considered same pool.
tropic lagoon
so all the force swords would be the same?
feral verge
force swords share blessings, aye
tropic lagoon
sweet thanks, also how does bloodthirsty work on illisi
feral verge
i think it's meh
tropic lagoon
Kind of thinking Deflector (blocking range is hilarious) and Slaughterer then
feral verge
illisi and deimos have deflector built in already
i think it's a bug from leftover code
tropic lagoon
I imagine that would get fixed then
cedar cove
Confirmed verified bug.
feral verge
eitherway, i think slaughterer is a must have
but whatever blessing after that is preference
lucid olive
if it will ever appear 
tropic lagoon
lol
near wyvern
sweet thanks, also how does bloodthirsty work on illisi
You swing once and your next hit crits. It absolutely deletes things when spammed but the main issues are the following:
- Since Exorcist cannot proc on special you can't just spam it forever, you kinda have to mix in lights and heavies
- Simply spamming the special is not that good of a tactic since there simply isn't enough enemies stacked to make a proper use of it instead of doing regular heavies or heavy light combo
If it was still the same, crit for 5 seconds, it would be really sweet on illisi and perhaps even make Blazing Spirit worth it.
tropic lagoon
kind of sucks we don't have a great single target nuke staff
feral verge
i'm cursed
that past few t4s ive rolled
like aorund 5 of them
have been t4s i already own
tropic lagoon
is the best way to get t4s by just upgrading weapons?
near wyvern
kind of sucks we don't have a great single target nuke staff
Yeah but Deimos nukes hard so just combine it with Trauma to create space / cc for free nukes
feral verge
is the best way to get t4s by just upgrading weapons?
melk is the best way in theory, but he usually stocks lame ass guns and boring melee weps
so on most days he's got junk for psyker
summer prairie
3 forceswords now, the odds are decent enough
feral verge
yee ik
tropic lagoon
Yeah but Deimos nukes hard so just combine it with Trauma to create space / cc f...
I tried using deimos and wasn't impressed, maybe I wasn't comboing it right
feral verge
deimos fucks
summer prairie
it would have to have massive suppression or something if you have to sit there getting shot
tropic lagoon
high risk high reward
near wyvern
is the best way to get t4s by just upgrading weapons?
Depends on the definition of best way.
Get a T4 for the least amount of in game time spent
Use the browser extension to check Melk daily and log in once there is something of interest.
Get a T4 as fast as possible
Only play Damnation low intensity if available, regular damnation if not and avoid extra modifiers. Buy all 370+ from hourly shop, roll the rest of dockets on Brunt for 350+, 360+ and 370+ weapons depending on how many you have in line. Upgrade always the biggest base power level to orange. It takes around 2 games to get enough mats for 1 orange and you seem to get (feel/opinion based not recorded data based) around 1 T4 for every 5 oranges, so 10 missions aka around 5 hours of in game time for one T4 roll.
tropic lagoon
could even work kind of like beam staff, channeling it builds up stacking soulblaze that builds faster than purgatus and caps higher than purgatus
summer prairie
it would have to cleave
tropic lagoon
it would be single target though, maybe give it the purgatus light attack
which would also work like the beam's shotgun
tropic lagoon
Depends on the definition of best way.
**Get a T4 for the least amount of in ga...
tanks
near wyvern
I tried using deimos and wasn't impressed, maybe I wasn't comboing it right
For Deimos you want high damage + first target. Then you use Warp Unleashed and have Unstable Power and +Maniac on it. Depending on your rolls the tresholds change a bit but for example my Deimos has around 70 damage and first target and is able to one shot a mutant with the regular 2nd heavy if I am at 2 warp charges and 80+ peril and give peril treshold scales down to around 40+ peril with 6 warp charges.
tropic lagoon
Do you just spam heavies?
near wyvern
Do you just spam heavies?
With Deimos? God no. You go light heavy and repeat that. The light opener is a fast light that hits more than the first heavy on non-carapace targets.
After that the lights in the light heavy combo are diagonal but extremely fast, so you only use it to stagger stuff and by means to get to the 2nd heavy, which is the stab one.
@tropic lagoon the special on Deimos has only 2 uses:
- quickly get some peril
- finish and CC an isolated elite/special about to hit you or your friend
The light heavy spam deals more DPS on headshots than the special does. You can't also pull this off with the special:
And believe me, this is very doable in regular game play, although the safest option is to have your back against the wall and stab the head after you have dodged to side and the mutant hits the wall. With this style of you miss the head and the mutant will grab ya.
tropic lagoon
does it slap bosses too?
forest coral
yep
however gotta aim headshots when u shank for bigger chunks
otherwise ur still better off bbing
late yew
<@54376521028075520> the special on Deimos has only 2 uses:
- quickly get some p...
Should you just spam lights in hordes?
summer prairie
The reach+priority helps https://streamable.com/g9fqtx
late yew
and i am not sure about illi, i've been told that heavies have more dps, but i felt like i am killing way more by spamming lights
near wyvern
I would say you always BB spam if you can. Bring out the melee only when the monstrosity is focusing you. This is because BB spam is safer and avoiding getting hit is more important than risky DPS.
late yew
I would say you always BB spam if you can. Bring out the melee only when the mon...
can BB be outdamaged by purgatus?
steel egret
Yes.
near wyvern
Should you just spam lights in hordes?
Generally yes. If there are many enemies around you you want to push spam some lights and repeat. However, as soon as you can get some space around you and the numbers in front of you are manageable, get back to light heavy spam.
steel egret
I only use BB on snipers if I have to for the rest there are other methods.
near wyvern
The reach+priority helps https://streamable.com/g9fqtx
Yeah please don't do this in front of the slug. If you gonna melee it the correct place is the slug's left side. It will grab you with the right hand and slap you with the tail.
steel egret
Then there are people who use BB on everything from Poxwalkers to Abominations.
summer prairie
Works from any side, just showing that it can pierce even straight through
late yew
BB feels so satisfying with that cast speed up on ult
late yew
Then there are people who use BB on everything from Poxwalkers to Abominations.
that's me
near wyvern
Works from any side, just showing that it can pierce even straight through
Yes yes works on any side but the safest spot to be is on the left side. Front it will grab you, right it will turn and grab before you have time to react and back it will do corrosive skid marks and tail slaps.
summer prairie
it will grab you if you have the goo on you
late yew
The very first force sword basically useless now right?
forest coral
The only time I even want to melee bon bon is if I’m rocking a hammer on zealot
near wyvern
The very first force sword basically useless now right?
Yes.
forest coral
It’s just high risk for no real reason on psyker
near wyvern
Deimos is basically the better version of the original force sword.
steel egret
The very first force sword basically useless now right?
For now.
forest coral
Deimos is basically the better version of the original force sword.
And the duelling swords
cyan notch
<@54376521028075520> the special on Deimos has only 2 uses:
- quickly get some p...
you can heavy special it as it runs by
viral solstice
ye it should one shot m utants ez no
cyan notch
yorp
viral solstice
my dogshit obscurus is 63 damage off with no maniacs roll so a deimos s hould absolutely one shot bodyshot t hem
cyan notch
dont even need all buffs up
feral verge
and i am not sure about illi, i've been told that heavies have more dps, but i f...
you definitely arent getting more DPS in a horde
because lights only cleave 2 targets
whereas heavies cleave 6
thats alot more dmg
forest coral
The lovely thing with illi be like, procing urself to 80% peril before opening up with special heavy swing into horde blend so you have passive toughness regen happening at any given moment
And instantly starting with max slaughter stacks
forest coral
feral verge
2nd heavy aint 1 shot body shotting it
summer prairie
If one special L1 kills the target, you are better off using that if you can do the activation before you get close to the target
feral verge
If one special L1 kills the target, you are better off using that if you can do ...
that's the only way i can reliably 1 shot them
summer prairie
it's as fast or slightly faster than l1-h2 and you don't have to land headshots
feral verge
cant seem to hit their heads in normal gameplay often enough to count on it
cyan notch
2nd heavy aint 1 shot body shotting it
special heavy
feral verge
special heavy
ye definitely
i doubt unstable power 4 could close this gap
special light 1
near wyvern
you can heavy special it as it runs by
Which will get you into an animation lock so if the situation changes you are fucked
feral verge
The lovely thing with illi be like, procing urself to 80% peril before opening u...
Combine this with exorcist and you've got even more toughness
near wyvern
i doubt unstable power 4 could close this gap
Probably not since most often things in the game stack additively. What's the damage without any buffs (take of Warp Unleashed as well)
feral verge
Probably not since most often things in the game stack additively. What's the da...
...
thanks alot pygex
when i took off warp unleashed
game crashed
it said no
warp unleashed stays on
still hearth
Power and damage buffs multiply each other
At least when they're actually power and damage buffs.
feral verge
lemee restart
cyan notch
Which will get you into an animation lock so if the situation changes you are fu...
sure but if you miss the headshot ur fucked
just another tool at your disposal
you can use both
near wyvern
warp unleashed stays on
I guess happy April fools day 
feral verge
lmao
viral solstice
why is deimos so bad smh
lethal folio
Run and gun on staves means you can sprint slightly faster by attacks.
idle bay
I guess happy April fools day <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Launched 1st mission today. Crashed while loading 🙂 Decided not to play today 🙂
still hearth
Run and gun on staves means you can sprint slightly faster by attacks.
Now if they let me keep sprinting after I slide
I'd actually use this blessing
lethal folio
Nasty bug.
viral solstice
so wait is this a meme or not a meme can a deimos really not bodyshot one shot a mutant
still hearth
Its honestly the only reason I don't use Run 'n' Gun on purgatus
feral verge
so wait is this a meme or not a meme can a deimos really not bodyshot one shot a...
it cant
viral solstice
lmao what
feral verge
unless you use heavy special
summer prairie
those are special lights
feral verge
normal attack? no mine cant 1 shot body shot, even with all the buffs
cyan notch
aint nothing gonna one shot body a mutant
feral verge
minus slaughterer
viral solstice
near wyvern
@feral verge do you have +maniac 20 or 25 on the Deimos?
lethal folio
This thing does 3200 on an unbuffed heavy stab
feral verge
illisi with no buffs. heavy special
viral solstice
my obscurus would do it easily if i put maniacs on it
feral verge
<@253355223400185867> do you have +maniac 20 or 25 on the Deimos?
25 maniac
viral solstice
i dont understand what im reading lmao
cyan notch
i meant normal attacks
still hearth
Useless.
viral solstice
agre
lethal folio
Honestly not a big ask for deimos
near wyvern
@feral verge it's hard to determine if unstable power will make it one shot or not. I have not tested how buffs work for melee weapons. Clearly some of the buffs (warp charges, warp unleashed, perk) stack additively while others stack multiplicatively.
Assuming unstable power stacks additively with them all (definitely will not be the case but gives a lower bound for damage) you would hit for around 3750 which is 250 off.
Assuming unstable power scales multiplicatively with everything you should hit for around 4033, which is the upper bound for the damage.
So with unstable 4 it's definitely in the range and comes down to how it stacks.
Plausible.
cloud sequoia
<@253355223400185867> it's hard to determine if unstable power will make it one ...
Can, if you headshot
cloud sequoia
Kinda hard unless you stack slaughterer
feral verge
<@253355223400185867> it's hard to determine if unstable power will make it one ...
i'll try it out once i get t4 unstable power
which could be never, at this rate
leaden thunder
power is multiplicative with just % damage increases
it adds power first then increases that by the % increase of damage
this is why the heavy swords are so busted
cyan notch
i'll try it out once i get t4 unstable power
it doesnt i have a 80 damage 78 first target t4 unstable
still hearth
Slaughterer also pretty wack
feral verge
it doesnt i have a 80 damage 78 first target t4 unstable
give me that sword
give me that blessing
still hearth
According to calc with a maxed Deimos your lights can at most do 3874 damage to the body of a mutant, assuming you have 100% peril, Unstable T4 and Maniac + Special
near wyvern
i'll try it out once i get t4 unstable power
If you have unstable 3 you can already test the stacking and will know the result if you should be exited for it or not. If you get around 3898 with unstable 3 it means you will get one shot with unstable 4 and it's multiplicative with everything. If the damage is not close then it's highly likely some things stack additively and one shot is not likely reached even with unstable 4.
near wyvern
Oh the 3361 was with unstable 3?
Never mind then
Unstable 4 will not get even close
Slaughterer could close the gap tho
gloomy gulch
Man big E just gave me this dang
cyan notch
pretty good 2 months ago
still hearth
You actually only need 1 stack of Slaughterer
To break the cap on a perfect Obscurus/Deimos special light.
If you're at 100% peril and 6 stacks.
viral solstice
warp unleashed stays on
still hearth
And I think you can do 3915 with H2 on Deimos with everything maxed out
To the body
cyan notch
backshot
gloomy gulch
low damage but big e is giving me some nice stuff today
feral verge
i have tons of those
stable silo
go all in with crit and reroll melee dmg to crit chance
feral verge
if only you could share loot
stable silo
become the true flamer sword as the God Emp dictates
stable silo
very nice but to be the true meme u need to rock shredder and roll into crit chance dont even play around with the activation unless to start your combo and just spam the flames
feral verge
i was thinking that
stable silo
its also more brain dead which is nice pick wildfire and just spread flame to meme
stable silo
yeah u need the wider arcs to apply flame crits
get max finesse low dmg with maxed crit chance to apply more flame rofl
it wont be good but it would be funny
feral verge
funny stat most important stat
next to drip
telltale signs of psyker lil'un noob
wounds, and surge
celest hedge
I’m liking the new force swords a lot, but I kind of want one now where instead of a big single target hit, the charge attack does a bit AOE hit like a charged voidstrike
celest hedge
Illis is a warp flavored power sword, which is cool but I don’t like it being only a single hit per charge
And I want an actual AOE blast
spice veldt
so something like the crushers and power maul
celest hedge
I did want a single target fast force weapon which we got with the Deimos, but I want something that plays a bit more like the self spear, and that does seem like a good combo with the long range that a spear has
Either that or the charge attack makes the next attack with it a super fast auto flurry attack
leaden thunder
celest hedge
Yoooo, sick
lunar hollow
fucking kms
leaden thunder
and it's even the wrong set up for that type
if it was the single shot one it'd be perfect
lunar hollow
fucking 379 vraks 3
stable silo
those are the most raw stats
celest hedge
Perks could be better but not a bad set of blessings
leaden thunder
opening salvo isn't great on the burst
lunar hollow
if it was the single shot one it'd be perfect
ive got something very similar but vraks 7 on zealot
but like
why the fuck would i ever run HH on psyker
spice veldt
bullet staff
shut prairie
Executor or Uncanny Strike?
leaden thunder
uncanny probably
spice veldt
i don't like either but I'd prefer uncanny
lunar hollow
all i want is a good illisi
but brunt fucking hates me and so does hadron
and the emperor gives me autoguns 80% of the time
shut prairie
What's the best blessings to put on a illisi?
feral verge
slaughter and unstable power
shut prairie
I got uncanny and unstable.
lunar hollow
switch uncanny for slaughterer if possible
slaughter turns any weapon it gets it on into a blender
what should i switch unyielding for
viral solstice
maniacs to get the ez heavy one shots on mutonts
lunar hollow
i thought of that right after i posted it lol
cyan notch
10% crit damage
lunar hollow
spice veldt
nah 10% weakspot
jovial quail
What exactly does bleed do with mercy killer? Do you only get the 40% damage when something is bleeding or how does it synergies with it?
shadow quail
My vet seems to get so much better stuff from melk than my psyker lol
late yew
What blessings and perks do i want on lightning?
summer prairie
flurry, nexus flak and then unarmored or elites
umbral jetty
cant get any fucking penances done because of my cunt teammates
trying to brain burst a target waaaay the fuck in teh back, well that has to be the one that the sharpshooter decides to shoot. every single time
cyan notch
ok
summer prairie
today a vet raged due to us "not allowing him to regenerate toughness" by killing his targets
wasn't even a mild rage
onyx steppe
How dare you hinder a vet! Don't you know they are the most important and powerful member of the team!? /s
vestal rose
yo finally
orchid shadow
Arthur_Bishiop, which penance are you trying to do?
feral verge
yo finally
nice
vestal rose
rolled +maniac 20% and executor 3
we take it
vestal rose
better than the peril power one no?
feral verge
no
executor is p bad
the peril power one is second best
slaughterer is best
peril power (unstable power) is 2nd place
the ideal is slaughterer + unstable power
unstable power is what makes a low resist illisi so great
vestal rose
what makes executor so bad in comparison?
feral verge
it requires that you chain headshots/weakspots
and if you miss, or break that chain (with a block)
you lose all stacks
and start over again
bad
vestal rose
oh
sso cleaving and hitting a torso kills it?
spice veldt
hitting a torso is fine as long as you hit a weakspot in your cleave
long osprey
You get full stack by only one sweep of the weapon with executor
vestal rose
yeah no it works fine
spice veldt
but I often block/push or qq cancel, so I dislike it
long osprey
If you are fighting a horde
vestal rose
in a game right now
5 stacks one swing, keeps up as i keep swinging and hitting a torso occasionally
spice veldt
activating your special also breaks a chain
feral verge
unstable power will be more consistent
vestal rose
im fine with it breaking
spice veldt
and because of a pecularity of on-hit blessings, the first swing can not proc multiple times in a single cleave
vestal rose
horizontal swings babeyyy
long osprey
On my sword I got shred IV and executor IV and I think I kill as fast as my zealot with heavy sword
vestal rose
and because of a pecularity of on-hit blessings, the first swing can not proc mu...
huh
so it seems
odd lol
orchid shadow
trying to brain burst a target waaaay the fuck in teh back, well that has to be ...
Which penance were you trying to do, Pick n Mix?
cyan notch
i dont think that person is in this server
late yew
I suppose you can dump damage on surge?
feral verge
I suppose you can dump damage on surge?
its dmg sucks in general so yea
orchid shadow
i dont think that person is in this server
Well, if he was, he was trying to do it in Malice game. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, you can only do it in Heresy or higher
lethal folio
You are very peculiar if you dump surge damage
near wyvern
yo finally
This sword is about to get some
lethal folio
Keep flak
feral verge
ik deimos already does full dmg to flak
wintry plover
I finally get a tier 4 blessing on blue and Hadron gives me this
feral verge
PrecogPill
@lethal folio
full damage to everything
except carapace
where it only does 80%
near wyvern
hmm <@345531303942291457> flak or unyielding for maniac?
Unyielding is monstrosities, Bulwakrs and Reaper heads. Either you rarely get to melee these or you want to avoid being in the melee range of these.
Flak is like the most common armour type in the game and scab ragers are flak which is not that uncommon to have to slap in melee. The assassination boss is also flak so huge damage on that as well.
So I would not hesitate to change unyielding into maniac.
radiant lance
Does Gunpsyker work with any gun outside of the Autopistol?
leaden thunder
infantry autoguns, las pistol, headhunter auto guns
radiant lance
Those all have Pinning Fire?
leaden thunder
no
long osprey
If you go gun for the love of god please still brain burst elites
leaden thunder
the fire gunker doesn't work with anything but the autopistol
since the whole point of that is how power effects soulblaze damage as well as insta procing full stacks of pinning
lethal folio
You can still use your melee weapon for powering blaze.
radiant lance
no
So in what way those Gunpsyker "work" with those other guns?
I mean what is the synergy
lethal folio
Gunpsyker likes blaze since guns aren't great at crowd control
leaden thunder
psyker has what like 49% damage boost at 6 stacks and max peril with the peril = damage talent
radiant lance
So if you're trying to play optimal, any reason not to run Autopistol when running a gun on Psyker?
lethal folio
I've made recon,hh, lasgun, laspistol all work fine on psyker.
still hearth
It's probably the best gun for Psyker atm.
radiant lance
Is 25% damage on Unyielding enemies a good perk for a gun?
still hearth
Not very.
radiant lance
Welp, bricked my only good Autopistol.
feral verge
Is 25% damage on Unyielding enemies a good perk for a gun?
i'd only like that on flamer and bolter
still hearth
It'll help you kill bosses and Reapers
But the autopistol sucks vs bosses since the primary damage boost comes from stagger
spice owl
Just BB 
feral verge
But the autopistol sucks vs bosses since the primary damage boost comes from sta...
(!) skill issue
simply stagger the boss??????
leaden thunder
doesn't Bonbon have some wierd stagger stuff going on
or is that only with no respite
still hearth
I didn't get any stacks from shooting BoN I think.
radiant lance
What's the quickest way to build peril? I feel like none is quick enough really if you want to get to max peril on the spot for your autopistol
still hearth
Illisi special spam.
But you wont be able to have full peril for long after the changes.
feral verge
What's the quickest way to build peril? I feel like none is quick enough really ...
41% peril resist
the lower, the better
still hearth
If you have 0% peril resistance you can trigger the special twice and be at 90% peril I think
radiant lance
Huh. Nice.
Will be hard to find an Illisi with such a low resist stat while the others are good though
Must be like winning the lottery
feral verge
you're gonna want 60% peril resist or lower
radiant lance
And then you have to hope it gets good blessings lol
feral verge
ehh, its not too too bad
still hearth
Welcome to the RNG fun times
feral verge
i have a few
radiant lance
Yeah I despise the loot system
Do ya'll run 6 warp charges or kinetic flayer for gunpsyker?
feral verge
if you want a ballpark weapon rating
for low warp resist
its ognna be around 350
if the other stats are 70+
wet jacinth
feral verge
unstable power is 2nd best
exorcist i only like on this particular build
for thoughness gain with quietitude
toughness*
reach 100% peril with purga
swap to sword
melee some doods, get to 50% peril instantly whilst doing good dps
swap back to purga
its a really nice setup
still hearth
I thought it only removed 5% per swing?
feral verge
no slaughterer because i dont need horde clear. however, its amazing horde clear as it is
it does, but it adds up in lmb spam
this lets me play like a zealot
or ogryn
with the toughness regen
i literally play like flamer zealot with this lol
when this rolled exorcist, i was dissapointed. thought it was bricked
but i gave it a try, and its easily the best, most well rounded sword build i've got for my playstyle
unstable helps me push shit far away, and deal higher single target dmg, which illisi lacks (in comparison to deimos or obscurus)
radiant lance
Does Collateral matter for Autopistols?
leaden thunder
a little
radiant lance
Got this thing. Wondering if to upgrade it
leaden thunder
yeah that's enough collat
lethal folio
High vs low collateral
leaden thunder
that without pinning
radiant lance
OK ended up with this thing. Idk if it's a keeper?
peak grotto
What are the dump stats on Purgatus, again?
viral solstice
do people want to knock over enemies tho that shit kinda annoying
leaden thunder
it'll serve, if you can get pinning fire in place of powderburn
you really need the blaze away + pinning fire combo
radiant lance
it'll serve, if you can get pinning fire in place of powderburn
I'll try, highest Pinning Fire I've seen so far was rank 2
radiant lance
you really need the blaze away + pinning fire combo
Great, so I've got one half
And the +elite damage ain't bad
leaden thunder
it's the best perk you don't want over other more specific perks basically
radiant lance
Not sure I understand. Is it good? lol
feral verge
What are the dump stats on Purgatus, again?
burn and cloud radius are the most important stats. you want burn to be 76% or higher
dmg stat doesnt do much
warp resist is nice
quell speed is the main dump stat for me
leaden thunder
Not sure I understand. Is it good? lol
that's my b
it's significantly better then a lot of bad perks but it's never ideal for a "godroll"
radiant lance
Gotcha
leaden thunder
it's always useful
radiant lance
What would be a godroll?
leaden thunder
like flak + maniac for that I think
radiant lance
Why so?
radiant lance
Gotcha. And how high can you get vs flak?
leaden thunder
25% for both
spice veldt
though the maniac threats usually get into melee range, so I'd be fine with whipping out my melee against them and reserving the other perk slot for something else
mild tartan
peak grotto
How is the roll for this?
kind jay
do you have maybe unstable power?
peak grotto
Alas, no
kind jay
hmm i guess youll just have to look for it but at least you have a good weapon for it
peak grotto
True
I do have an Obscurus I could sacrifice for Unstable Power III...
Sure, that one kinda sucks anyway
faint vault
Which perks do you guys run on trauma?
faint vault
Yeah 😛
feral verge
unarmored and flak
faint vault
Nice, thanks!
feral verge
or infested and flak
heady bramble
anyone have any luck getting malleus monstronum? Any advice?
spring fern
get a group to help you with it
faint vault
Thanks, Mankar!
ember saffron
anyone have any luck getting malleus monstronum? Any advice?
i'm willing to bring a shield oggy for ya if yer willing to do the same for me 😉
heady bramble
i'm willing to bring a shield oggy for ya if yer willing to do the same for me �...
im down!
ember saffron
im down!
you have any more friends we could group up with? we could try with just the two of us with dead bots but it'Ll be tough
feral verge
nothing new here, but damn. good thing i dont actually want this sword. just farming for t4 unstable power. hadron gave me a tier 1 blessing on a 375 lmao
heady bramble
you have any more friends we could group up with? we could try with just the two...
I don't but I'm sure we could find 2 people in lfg who would be willing to come along for the ride
sleek yacht
nothing new here, but damn. good thing i dont actually want this sword. just far...
both of these perks are bad anyways
raven basin
do you guys think these are good blessings for my surge staff or should I re roll one?
feral verge
both of these perks are bad anyways
Well aware
faint vault
do you guys think these are good blessings for my surge staff or should I re r...
Just save your materials for lvl 30 gear. That one works fine until you get a better one.
peak grotto
Yeah, upgrading stuff before you hit 30 is a waste of resources
vestal raven
^
faint vault
anyone have any luck getting malleus monstronum? Any advice?
Demon hosts are not jumpers. If you stand on a few boxes it can't reach you and you can BB it down safely.
peak grotto
Between Deimos Sword, Purgatus, and BB, what is my best DPS option for bosses?
faint vault
If you can safely spam l1-h1 with the Deimos I'm willing to bet that's the highest dps on paper, but it's likely very situational in game.
ornate hamlet
Do you guys think a +3 stam Curio is worth it on Psyker or should I just run all 3 as health?
feral verge
yes
edgy kite
At what level does Psyker start to feel.. better? I'm only level 20 but it feels like I'm not really contributing in the games I'm in.
feral verge
level 30
fierce sinew
Between Deimos Sword, Purgatus, and BB, what is my best DPS option for bosses?
sword with max stacks of soulblaze already applied
apply the dot and switch
viral solstice
imagine if the swords came with soulblaze pre-installed
that would be such a sick buff to soulblaze
fierce sinew
you can maintain with a left click every now and then
viral solstice
they make it so u build the stacks of burn on lights
and then heavies apply the burn at x stacks
fun
fierce sinew
that would be way cooler than built in deflector
viral solstice
tbh it would be kinda unironically interesting especially if u could build multiple stacks on cleaving lights or got more for headshots etc
would let u do cool stuff
fierce sinew
agreege
peak grotto
Force swords have built-in deflector?
feral verge
illisi and deimos do
fierce sinew
2 of them currently do
peak grotto
Oh, that explains a lot
feral verge
feral verge
Np
olive ember
Why must it be a bug smh
karmic copper
@all psa: dont forget to CONFIRM with milk for your docket points from completed contracts each week
Sniper or general corrupt resistance for curio?
feral verge
Sniper
karmic copper
Does general corruption res reduce melee hit to hp?
dusky bear
feels like the servers are some how worse than normal
clear heath
maybe that's the aprils joke
dusky bear
ah fuck it ill play tomorow after the patch. thats the third mission i got dropped from
true shadow
wow uncanny strike is hilarious on the ilisi
feral verge
Funny but not ideal
ruby plover
you and i got different definitions of funny
true shadow
idk it's pretty funny to kill a crusher with only really fast light attacks
but i do have a 1% stability autogun somewhere
ruby plover
fire sword now thats funny
i dont actually have the blaze blessing doe so i cant make one
kind jay
be a real man and bodyshot crushers using a gray combat knife
feral verge
Wish I had unstable 4
feral verge
be a real man and bodyshot crushers using a gray combat knife
Nah
Use your starter weapon
From beginning of the game
I kinda wish I kept mine
For the memes
kind jay
time to make a smurf psyker
true shadow
And let the dot kill crusher
don't forget wildfire so its stacks suddenly go to everything around it
true psyker gaming
true shadow
it's actually really fun
right now i'm running kinetic flayer - quicken because that's actually really viable now too
feral verge
Nonstop screaming
true shadow
i am tempted to run cerebral lacerations for more damage but it's still kinda niche
feral verge
My purga build
true shadow
yeah i'm running this with purg
ruby plover
kinetic shield is bad bro just dont get hit
true shadow
https://gyazo.com/e6daeec8f848b93c8547b5691eae1ffa
ALSO not ideal but funny
feral verge
kinetic shield is bad bro just dont get hit
I don't get hit. It's just kinetic shield is so strong, and I'm already so good I just wanted to nerf myself
true shadow
personally i'm weapon
feral verge
Personally he's weapon
Bro you got the funny sex number on quell speed
Now that's epic
peak grotto
I'm half tempted to run Wrack and Ruin since Wildfire gives it more value
cold geode
Dat blast radius
peak grotto
Ouchies
true shadow
I'm half tempted to run Wrack and Ruin since Wildfire gives it more value
i was considering a meme build
blazing spirit shred ilisi with wildfire and wrack and ruin
peak grotto
Oh God Emperor
true shadow
it sounds hilarious in theory
kind jay
"i see a sniper"
dull flint
just got to 30, which force sword is better and what blessings?
wheat olive
QQ - do all Force Swords share the same perks? I only care about the Illisi, but if I upgrade say the Obscurus or Deimos, can I use whatever perks I get from there on the Illisi?
spice veldt
yeah, all blaze force swords can transfer blessings between one another
spice veldt
just got to 30, which force sword is better and what blessings?
Deimos and Illisi are considered superior to the Obscurus
Broadly speaking, Slaughterer, Unstable Power, and Deflector are the blessings to aim for. Bloodthirsty is passable on the Illisi.
wet jacinth
was the deflector bug fixed?
dull flint
also what are the meta feats?
dull flint
i work alot, i'd rather make it easier
vagrant frigate
any way to play solo?
maybe just running sedation and hoping no one joins?
I wanna explore out of bounds more
halcyon creek
~~Just play a zealot, nobody expects them to stick with the group anyway ~~Sadly, no
vagrant frigate
dam
I guess I'll just do sedation and hope to get an empty lobby
looking for out of bounds tech/skips
already got some
peak grotto
How is this staff so far? Perk recommendations?
crude talon
Hi, I havent played in a while. Whats good now?
cerulean rune
halcyon creek
I don't know whether to Brain Burst or drop some E
viral solstice
they cant hit u just dodge once and they will all give up and shoot into narnia
snipers are a psyop
lethal folio
feral verge
How is this staff so far? Perk recommendations?
Terrifying barrage is pointless/bad. It pretty much does nothing. Worthless blessing
Keep Infested, get rid of unyielding for crit chance or unarmored/maniac/flak
peak grotto
Yeah, I'm sad about Barrage
But the other blessing was crit chance, which was even more worthless
viral solstice
Alanox this is an unfortunate moment where u find out that purg staff applies 2 soulblaze stacks when it crits a tick
instead of 1
so the crit blessing is good
peak grotto
.>
feral verge
was it warp nexus?
feral verge
cuz if so, you fucked yourself lol
peak grotto
gdi
peak grotto
Son of a heretic
feral verge
pretty much a godroll purga
peak grotto
It was only Warp 2, I believe, though
feral verge
still
peak grotto
Still sad
feral verge
yeah focused is meh
focused is for bad positioning
and bad positioning is
...
bad
peak grotto
Heresy 4
feral verge
cuz in high int damn, you;ll be glad you had it
because it lets you spam away
cast times becomes insanely quick
as hordes funnel in
and it reduces cast cost--dont forget that
peak grotto
Maybe I should just go back to Zealot considering my Psyker takes are so bad XD
peak grotto
If this one's Burn wasn't so bad I'd be happy with it
peak grotto
Already got it elsewhere, so not needed
slate oasis
looking for some opinions on these voidstrike staves. I feel like staff 2 is generally better despite having slightly lower modifiers, but I'm not an expert on the numbers in this game so idk maybe staff 1 has more potential somehow? thoughts?
feral verge
staff two is better
you got the two best in slot blessings on it
staff 2 is way better
kind jay
2 and not even close
slate oasis
Oh I wasn't even aware those were the best blessing. nice. should I reroll the perk to anything else?
kind jay
probably flak or maniac
feral verge
i'd do flak
slate oasis
will do. thank you, siblings 🙏
ornate hamlet
kind jay
sniper is fun. i think i like it more than shock
crude talon
Whats the "best" or standard feats now?
feral verge
quietitude and warp unleashed are almost always a must have imo
the rest are preference, p much
if you run the purga staff, you are gonna want ascendant blaze and warp battery
lunar hollow
is there any hope for this (melk shop)
feral verge
is there any hope for this (melk shop)
nah
spring fern
dont do it
true shadow
No! Don't do it!
north cradle
I got this as an Emps gift, what should I refine?
feral verge
thats pretty meh
crude talon
Is the deimos not good?
north cradle
I can slap on Slaughterer 3 from my Obscurus to replace Superiority, I probably won't be using it anymore with these new ones
feral verge
Is the deimos not good?
deimos is great
true shadow
unstable power isn't super great over other options
true shadow
unless you want to have it to have it
feral verge
i have bee ntrying to get it for a month
true shadow
its passive power so its cool
gloomy gulch
so
true shadow
but it's not the most useful option ever
feral verge
unstable power is 2nd best blessing
gloomy gulch
yeah it is worth it is what I am hearing
true shadow
it's definitely worth it
ruby plover
melk didnt bring a single psyker specific item today :)
gloomy gulch
I think I might just keep that sword I think it better than my current one tbh
ruby plover
wow
unstable 4 and only 1600 coins
actual insane value
and the base aint trash either
true shadow
first target so low :(
gloomy gulch
this is what I have right now
ruby plover
illisi is for horde :)
true shadow
yeah take it :)
ruby plover
grab slaughterer somewhere else slap it on
gloomy gulch
so this is just better
true shadow
illisi is for horde :)
my ilisi is for everything
gloomy gulch
like deflector I think has really fallen out of favour with most people now
true shadow
praise the emperor
ruby plover
tru but i'd take a t4 unstable t4 slaughterer illi with mid first target over a lot of illis
deflector is ass
dont @ me
true shadow
like deflector I think has really fallen out of favour with most people now
since the deflector revive change it's ass
gloomy gulch
I remember when people were crazy for it
true shadow
pre-nerf it was godtier for saving shitters
but now it's just an emergency "fuck im dying" and there's better options for that
feral verge
im cursed
north cradle
RIP in Peace ranged revive block
feral verge
i've been wanting unstable 4 for a month
ruby plover
mfw people use peril block
feral verge
yet i see all these ppl who dont know aobut it get it randomly
"oh wahts this is this any good"
true shadow
i use peril block because it's free high peril, i dont get hit enough otherwise and mind in motion is doodoo
ruby plover
bro just stroke the sword
true shadow
I DO STROKE MY SWORD
north cradle
I still like it though, for giving myself a get-out-of-jail-free card against Shotgunners
ruby plover
peril block aint free
feral verge
ive spent almost 100k plasteel trying to get it
spice veldt
it does protect against guardbreaks and allows you to avoid taking a stamina curio
ruby plover
no shut up
true shadow
yeah fuck stamina curio we healthmaxing
ruby plover
my way or the highway
true shadow
IM HEALTHMAXING
ruby plover
shadow quail
they should keep the bug and just rework the deflector blessing. It's nice to have once a match or two to stop some chip damage but meh
true shadow
agree\
ruby plover
same
and then make deflector do what it did before
:)
actually fuck it deflector returns projectiles now
true shadow
literally just let me block projectiles with peril block feat
feral verge
I left
ruby plover
me deflecting shotgun blast directly into ragers
true shadow
I simply deflect the bullets with my mind.
shadow quail
yeah if it returned fire it would be cool
true shadow
im weapon
cold geode
melk with the fucking rending shockwave IV when he knows i have no money
leaden thunder
such is the rule of melk
slate oasis
are slaughterer and unstable power the best blessings for deimos? trying to figure out what to be looking for on it
feral verge
Yes
gloomy gulch
Real question is which one should I use
I was thinking just ripping off unstable power and upgrading the left one
It already has flak which is a plus
Forgot big E gave me the left one yesterday
maiden wolf
We did it bois!
magic burrow
Anyone know what overkill damage means in the scoreboard mod? I consistently top that and Im not sure if thats a good or a bad thing
maiden wolf
Real question is which one should I use
Right one has better group damage, left one has better single target. The warp resistance seems like an attractive stat on the Illisi, so I'd go with the right one.
You could replace elite damage with crit chance.
maiden wolf
Anyone know what overkill damage means in the scoreboard mod? I consistently top...
Probably a bad thing. My guess is that its the sum of all the damage you wasted that round.
So it means you were using lots of high damage attacks vs enemies you could have killed with something cheaper.
gloomy gulch
Ah cool and who knows I might upgrade the right one and get slaughterer
maiden wolf
I assume it also takes melee into account though, so I wouldn't fret too much about it.
maiden wolf
Ah cool and who knows I might upgrade the right one and get slaughterer
Oooh
gloomy gulch
Anything can happen
maiden wolf
Anything can happen
That's a good idea, maybe save the left one for if you get T4 shred or bloodthirsty.
cloud sequoia
why is this blessing locked?
you changed the first blessing before upgrade?
cloud sequoia
primal plume
how good is this on surge staff
