eh, "crutch" isn't really the right word
#psyker-class
spice veldt
you got a tool and you're using it
of course you can accomplish the same thing with sliding, but it's certainly safer
ornate hamlet
some things are crutches, others are you just using the thing as it was made to be used
its kinda like trying to hammer a nail with a spoon and calling using a hammer a crutch
spice veldt
it's not as though you give up another remarkable blessing with deflector, with the nerf to bloodthirsty and unstable power being average at best
it's not something that really halts your progression in skill
fierce sinew
I think unstable power is better than that
spice veldt
and if you're not learning to dodge-slide with it, then that's not deflector's fault anyways
fierce sinew
people consistently underrate low to no setup cost power blessings
always theorycrafting with max stacks of (slaughterer/decimator/etc) that they won't have a lot of the time
still hearth
Breakpoints, my dude
fierce sinew
yeah
still hearth
That's all that matters here
More damage is useless unless you singlehandedly get a boost
Right?
spice veldt
i suppose it makes you one-shot groaners with bodyshots with the minimum cleave damage with less peril required with WU
still hearth
Though the important part of Slaughter + Unstable is also that you can start oneshotting poxwalkers
spice veldt
but only with +infested also thrown into the mix
spice veldt
:(
fierce sinew
being able to swap to a weapon and kill something in your first swing is great
still hearth
That's not really happening with Illisi anyway.
You'll oneshot a few goons but you'd do that anyway
fierce sinew
I agree, but I think illisi is more of a primary weapon for that reason
vs a secondary to your staff
still hearth
20% power is enougg to hit a 3 kill on poxwalkers weakspots
But on the second swing you'd kill any you damaged before anyway
Maybe not all of them but enough
Then you're rolling max Slaughter until you stop swinging
spice veldt
prob can kill 7 poxwalkers in a single swing with max slaught and max peril with unstable and WU
I do 258 minimum cleave damage to poxwalker weakspots
weary idol
If you don't have equal overkill and actual damage on the scoreboard mod are you even playing the game
spice veldt
well you probably don't need unstable since the 7th target receives 132.82
compared to the minimum cleave weakspot dmg of 94.88
if only the calculator had options to factor in global damage boosts
spice veldt
the math makes me afraid
very spooky
also I hate having to pull up a calculator each time and having to type it all out and yaddi yadda
too much work
kind jay
emperor gave me a thing
molten sparrow
Could I ask for the dump stats for each of the Stave's please?
still hearth
Just do 1.49x in your head
spice veldt
Trauma: Damage and Warp Res
Voidstrike: Blast Radius and Warp Res
Purgatus: Damage and Warp Res
speaking from the perspective of a quietude user, at least
still hearth
Surge - no
spice veldt
you can usually afford to give up warp res unless you want to maintain warp flurry stacks for as many casts as possible
chrome arch
Anyone remembers breakpoints to oneBBing a hound on t4?
Can you oneBB Hounds without warp battery?, say 4s plus WU
still hearth
Six stacks and like 60% peril for WU probably
still hearth
CL doesn't help you oneshot
chrome arch
cL doesn't work on first
Not this game spaghetti code
Right
6s plus 60% wu
Ouch
austere estuary
For trauma specifically when using warp flurry and feat based peril res, quelling funnily enough becomes the least useful stat
chrome arch
Same for Nomanus I think
austere estuary
You just quell so rarely at that point
spice veldt
maybe against a horde, but i'd value quell speed against shooters
still hearth
You need 4 stacks and 0% peril on Heresy
spice veldt
*as a quietude user
still hearth
To oneshot with WU
austere estuary
Like if you only quell after 15+++ casts then saving a fraction of a second on it is meh
still hearth
Yep
austere estuary
maybe against a horde, but i'd value quell speed against shooters
Yeah even without a single proc of battle meditation that’s still 15 casts
With battle meditation regularly you can go a great many
spice veldt
15 with 150% peril? god damn
austere estuary
This is flurry 4 though
It was a bit more before the bug fix on staff swings
When we could pre-charge
spice veldt
i'd still treat damage as my dump stat since I'm usually going to full charge anyways
austere estuary
Yeah, I like damage though for earlier breakpoints on poxwalkers, only 1-2 warp charges, or for being able to intentionally not full charge and still do the job etc etc but can see how it’s not a huge deal
spice veldt
and it has enough damage to reach the relevant breakpoints with enough damage boosts from warp charges, WU, and perks
austere estuary
Trauma has mad overkill as it is
spice veldt
also why the fuck does the quell speed stat still scale nonlinearly
austere estuary
I don’t see it as a bad thing for some stats to be that way, it’s interesting at least
spice veldt
80% stat caps really hurt it though
austere estuary
Yeah for real
spice veldt
very sad
chrome arch
IG i can stick to warp battery to get trained for t5
I resigned from psych.communion in favour of cL to help team kill da Slugs
Should I keep using AB for purg? You kinda can just .. use purg. Not a fan of quickly losing stacks. Currently I run Quicken and I love it, but is it somewhat worst lv30 feat?
still hearth
This game is just a hot pot of strange decisions
austere estuary
I’d say quicken is still pretty bad yeah, and for purg incredibly bad vs AB
chrome arch
Why is Quicken bad though?
still hearth
You still want AB to get stacks and you can shout at max stacks on bosses to do more damage
austere estuary
Cause it doesn’t really help compared to barrage
still hearth
The issue with Quicken
chrome arch
I can replenish my stacks fast whilst having double saving from blowing myself up
austere estuary
Barrage also lets you blaze up to 6 charges, but doesn’t nuke your charges and lets you do fast BBs
austere estuary
Yeah
chrome arch
Oh I think I understand
still hearth
Quicken lets you chain ult if you BB
But it kinda just doesn't make normal gameplay better
austere estuary
Maybe if they make it only cut half or 66% of your stacks
That might make it more of a choice
still hearth
Just make it double your warp charge max
leaden thunder
i mean it is a choice now tbh
still hearth
Give me 12 stacks
leaden thunder
worse then others
chrome arch
In general yea don't like losing stacks especially 6
leaden thunder
but it's not as dogshit as before
still hearth
It has a strange niche but it's not great
chrome arch
However 3bb to full stacks is convincing
spice veldt
only thing is that it requires warp charges which'll either come from brain bursting or the warp charge feats
and I despise brain bursting or having to pick those feats
austere estuary
Like AB pays for your stacks by nuking a horde, doing dps, and regenerating warp stacks
still hearth
I love brain bursting and shouting
austere estuary
Barrage just straight up great
And lets you build charges quickly and not spend them
Quicken… your ult doesn’t do anything new
still hearth
Quicken should give you haste
austere estuary
So the utility of using it more often is a bit less exciting
patent steeple
i might actually try out AB since even when using purg i still get overwhelmed sometimes...
austere estuary
That would be cool
chrome arch
Hm
austere estuary
Haste on casts for a while would be really really cool actually
I hope they do that
chrome arch
Honestly choosing builds to purgatus staff gives me a headache
austere estuary
AB and warp charge toughness is so nice and brain off
still hearth
Purg is pretty broken
chrome arch
ABing a horde doesn't guarantee regaining a handful of stacks
austere estuary
I mean I can’t remember not getting them all back when doing it or very close to
patent steeple
btw, sorry to interrupt the conversation, but am i the only person who buys the armory player skins because of not wanting to spend cash on the irl money cosmetics and also because i suck at getting the penances?
chrome arch
First I ran AB, then Quicken, now I might as well try KB
Just don't want to use PC, I want to use CL to prepare myself for t5
still hearth
ABing a horde doesn't *guarantee* regaining a handful of stacks
On Damnation it definitely does
austere estuary
KB is just great, though AB on purg is too good imo
still hearth
I've not once not gotten 6 stacks shouting a horde
chrome arch
Hm
still hearth
At 50+ targets you're basically guaranteed to get all stacks back
austere estuary
Really? I literally once got all 6 back within a second at a finale
chrome arch
Guess I have to return to AB but I want to keep CL, PC is... idk
austere estuary
Oh I misread your double negative
still hearth
Lacerations lets you do some funky stuff on bosses by flaming and then BBing them
Lots of damage
chrome arch
Ye that's what I wanna do
Guess back to AB it is
But rather I'd keep to... how to put it
WU and KS always grant lowest value even at 0 peril??
still hearth
Yeah
chrome arch
Thank you Beloved
For a few matches I kept edging peril
And I didn't like it
I'd rather keep at medium peril so that I can keep spamming purg
feral verge
i inadvertently killed a DH
never figured out how to 'solo' them until now
another psyker on the team was pushed into one. he died to it
forest coral
Is it door
feral verge
then it went after me
and i just started nonstop dodging in a circle around it, with deimos sword
at first i thought i was just lucky that it was missing
but then for like a solid minute, it never hit me, and it eventually died
there was an ogryn and a vet shooting at it too, but
i was able to melee/dodge it to death without getting hit
or knowing its attack patterns
just dodged in a circle endlessly
clicking lmb nonstop
forest coral
The trick is to find a box or locker that’s a rectangle or square
Psyker with Deimos is basically best class for it now
Can’t really hit back even on a zealot due to dodge distance unless using knife
forest coral
But box is best friend in that scenario
feral verge
it was out in the open
feral verge
the classic damage dumpstat
wet jacinth
Gamer
wet jacinth
As Nike states. "JUST DO IT"
subtle linden
unreal dust
Warp Charge damage bonus is 4% or 5%?
unreal dust
Feeling like I should drop Communion and Battery for Aura and Flayer on my purg build...
unreal dust
ascendant blaze but no warp battery? madlad
I know, it hurts.
feral verge
my main build, which is purga focused
unreal dust
But I -really- want Aura... so I can 4-stack waves with AB + Staff stacks
Like... all the time
Hi-Shock has me wanting a faster tempo on that
And missing 8% and 2 extra stacks off AB can't be that bad... ... ... right?
whines
jagged lance
my main build, which is purga focused
hows it been working out?
feral verge
extremely well
its my best, most effective build
i have 450 hours
and i found it to be the best
i only play damnation
wet jacinth
i have 450 hours
Weird flex but aight
unreal dust
I don't like Quietude on Purg. I like to stay at high peril for more Warp Unleashed Deeps. That and murder fuels my survival
feral verge
Weird flex but aight
lol
leaden thunder
I don't like Quietude on Purg. I like to stay at high peril for more Warp Unleas...
quietude isn't selected
it's just highlighted
jagged lance
extremely well
ill try it out
feral verge
when someone says their build is doing very well, but they only have 30 hoursi n game, i aint gonna trust them
wet jacinth
quietude isn't selected
feral verge
so i like to specify hours
wet jacinth
so i like to specify hours
When 1k hours.
unreal dust
quietude isn't selected
If that were the case, I'd see 'two' lights on the left side.
Its selected and highlighted.
forest coral
w h e n
feral verge
I don't like Quietude on Purg. I like to stay at high peril for more Warp Unleas...
i live at high peril too
feral verge
with the buffs/fixes to quelling, quietitude is a must have
@jagged lance here are my weapons
i swap betwen deimos and illisi, but i tend to favor that illisi over deimos
rare furnace
As Nike states. "JUST DO IT"
i just did it and im wanted in 7 countries rn
wet jacinth
i just did it and im wanted in 7 countries rn
Weird flex but aight
They got like 6 stars in GTA?
unreal dust
Sitting here. Staring at the Mission Map. Going through Hi-shock withdrawals....
near gale
i just did it and im wanted in 7 countries rn
You should be, that's what everyone aspires for
Asside from crab, maybe, he's wanted in every country
forest coral
Sitting here. Staring at the Mission Map. Going through Hi-shock withdrawals....
Man’s got ptsd
rare furnace
You should be, that's what everyone aspires for
its that ;ife choom
forest coral
unreal dust
Man’s got ptsd
I neeeeeeeeed that rush mang
near gale
unreal dust
Damnation is fun, but like... Hi-Shock just 'hits' right you know? Even Lo-Shock is just methadone by comparison
near gale
I haven't gotten to the hi-shock level yet >.>
leaden thunder
it's unpleasant
near gale
Haven't found enough people of that skill level to play with
leaden thunder
in a good way
forest coral
Low shock is comfy but I’ve still had teams go from full Hp healthy to one man standing and everything on fire in like 10 seconds
unreal dust
it shouldn't be able to be quickplayed into
Mmmmmm. I'd accept this if I can queue for Multiple Hi-Shock missions. Sometimes they have concurrent ones.
wet jacinth
it shouldn't be able to be quickplayed into
forest coral
hi shock reaally needs players to be switched on haha
subtle linden
so i blue'd the dumpstat subby
it gave iv raking fire instead of iv pinning ifre
wheat olive
this is by far the best sword I have for now, well above my others, and I'll probably be using it for a while. What's a good a perk to replace, and what perk should I replace it with?
I mostly use the sword for killing trash mobs and the occasional Rager. I use my Brainburst for big boys
Also - is Deflector considered a good perk?
safe sun
I'd replace melee weak spot damage with damage to infected, or damage to flak armor
and deflector is top tier for force swords
subtle linden
deflector atm is on illisis and deimos
as a bug
without perk
so use slaughter until patch
subtle linden
i think the executor is better than the lvl 1 riposte tho
feral verge
unstable and slaughterer are BIS perks for trash clearing
shadow quail
i'd say deflector is pretty mid but there aren't exactly lots of great blessings
tight mesa
Looks good
wheat olive
Yeah I don't like either Riposte or Executor tbh. Ideally I would have Slaughter and Deflector
wheat olive
I'd replace melee weak spot damage with damage to infected, or damage to flak ar...
agreed, I'll switch to damage to infected since that is its main use
subtle linden
flak or maniac personally for me
wheat olive
So if I keep refining the Perk, will I eventually, after enough rolls, get the perk I want? The infected one?
shadow quail
Yeah might take a while
subtle linden
ya
safe sun
yeah, but if i were you I'd settle for tier 3
subtle linden
its free after a certain amount
safe sun
tier 4 rolls are very low chance
wheat olive
yeah, but if i were you I'd settle for tier 3
Oh is it not guaranteed to be a tier 3 perk?
So it can even drop tier?
wheat olive
ahh OK
safe sun
it's random but biased higher with higher base rating
safe sun
but tier 4 rolls are still very low chance
shadow quail
I always roll a 4, but can take a while
subtle linden
u dont want to hear hadron spam u with
wheat olive
This game is like Pachinko lol
spice oar
They got like 6 stars in GTA?
lmao
safe sun
There's a mod you can get where you select the perk you want and it will auto reroll until you get it
so you don't have to keep clicking yourself
ruby plover
imagine not just sitting there clicking 10,000 times like a chad
shadow quail
And then accidently rolling past the thing you want because it's been 15 mins and you aren't paying attention
safe sun
yup
safe sun
are you level 30? What's the base rating?
shadow quail
post a picture
safe sun
right, so for level 30, you usually want to go for base rating 350 or above. Max is 380
tier 3+ perks and blessings as well
wet jacinth
There's a mod you can get where you select the perk you want and it will auto re...
Tier*
leaden thunder
it selects the perk now as well i believe
wet jacinth
New feature eh
safe sun
Yeah when I looked at it, it allowed you to specify the perk and tier
fierce sinew
safe sun
nice
wheat olive
qq - does the Executor blessing (+4% power on repeated weak spot hit) only apply to the same enemy?
wheat olive
ah ok
floral mulch
First sword after hitting 30.
I thought it looked pretty good, but.. being new I'm not sure what is good/whats not.
spice veldt
ideally it would have 80/80/80 dmg/finesse/first target
with mobility and warp res being dumpstats
but it's good nuff
floral mulch
ack
wheat olive
huh, that sword seems to have an affinity for Unyielding enemy perks
spice veldt
reapers in devastation
floral mulch
Is that a good perk?
feral verge
it is, but not for illisi, no
but its definitely not the worst perk you could get
its better than crit damage, which is awful no matter the weapon
floral mulch
can any of that be rerolled? or is it what you see is what you get?
for the stats...
wheat olive
Is that a good perk?
I never attack Reapers with my sword personally, so for me it was useless, but if you do then it's good
feral verge
you can reroll one perk, and one blessing
the other one gets locked
you can reroll infinitely
floral mulch
the blessing is already good tho' right?
feral verge
deflector in general is good
leaden thunder
rn no, becuase it's bugged but in the future yes
leaden thunder
I do not expect the bug to stay
feral verge
the illisi and deimos sword already have deflector built in
but as sean says, its more than likely a bug
floral mulch
nod
leaden thunder
I think it's jsut copy pasted code
feral verge
yee
leaden thunder
from the closed beta force sword
feral verge
left over
uneven compass
Should I swap one of these blessings for Focused Channeling?
wheat olive
The last blessing, "Terrifying Barrage" isn't very good is it? I was thinking of replacing it with "Focused Channeling" which makes your charge-up impossible to interrupt, is that good?
still hearth
Its very bad.
wheat olive
^ ah we were typing at the same time but we basically have the same question lol
still hearth
But you don't want Warp FLurry T1
feral verge
Should I swap one of these blessings for Focused Channeling?
No
Those are the best in slot blessings for trauma
Warp flurry + rending shockwave are really good
floral mulch
The other question, should I keep all weapons, I saw a video suggesting that I should never discard any because they are going to have a salvage mechanic? but the video was older..
uneven compass
Yeah true, guessing keep that carapace damage as well to go with the rending? Trauma hits carapace so hard
feral verge
Focused channeling is meh because it relies on you having bad positioning, and bad positioning is... Bad
still hearth
At this point bartering away weapons is fine.
The crafting system is basically complete.
wheat olive
Focused channeling is meh because it relies on you having bad positioning, and b...
Makes sense. Is Terrifying Barrage good at all? Does it affect melee enemies in any way?
feral verge
It's bad
still hearth
It only affects one melee enemy
uneven compass
there are some times where i really wish I had focused channeling but ya overall the times you dont have it it would meh compared to having faster charges 24/7
still hearth
And you can already scare them with your staff.
wheat olive
lol fair points
floral mulch
Complete... it still feels so.... basic tho...
still hearth
I mean they might change it a bit but keeping weapons just feels bad
If you want to hold out on hope then sure
But there's no indication atm that they'll make any big crafting changes
feral verge
I'm holding onto my weapons
still hearth
Unless they make the crafting system worse atm I don't feel a reason to hold onto my weapons
feral verge
Even if it's a year or more from now, I'd feel bad for tossing out all my shit legendaries, if they patch in a way to scrap them for plasteel, or make higher tier blessings with them
still hearth
floral mulch
Well, I'll scrap my grays and greens.. and if i get too many I'll scrap higher.
feral verge
Having a big inventory is inconvenient, but losing out on future crafting would be awful
feral verge
Feels bad man
I've been trying to get unstable power 4 for a month
Over 50k plasteel spent. Checked melk everyday.
scarlet lily
Siblings, I need your feedback. Do I:
A. Place the Terrifying Barrage (3) on the 467 staff, instead of the Warp Flurry (2)? So I have critical + an aoe supression -> Suppression maxxing
B. Place the Warp Nexus (3) blessing onto the 462 staff instead of the Terrifying Barrage (3) -> Higher damage, higher critical chance + Carapace armor damage maxxing
C. Place the uninterruptable blessing onto the 467 instead of the Warp Flurry (2) -> Being interrupted rarely happens with the spam, but when it does happen... 
Still working on bringing up a better staff, curious what your takes will be 
feral verge
how many psykers?
i have 2, but the other is level 9
cuz i lost heart in levelling him cuz malice sucks and its harder than damnation because of the players lmao
feral verge
Siblings, I need your feedback. Do I:
A. Place the Terrifying Barrage (3) on th...
terrifiyng barrage is bad
it doesnt work the way it sounds
it will surpress enemies very close to you. which every staff already does
scarlet lily
I was testing it myself, at (III) it's not so bad, it does stop them in an aoe around you for a moment.. But it's pretty meh
scarlet lily
Interesting 
feral verge
warp flurry + transfer peril are the best in s lot blessings for voidstrike
i wouldnt dream of getting rid of flurry
scarlet lily
Voidstrike 
fierce sinew
i have 2, but the other is level 9
I burned tens of thousands of plasteel looking for t4 warp nexus on purg and eventually decided to start working on 5 x 30 psyker roster instead
with the added benefit of faster access to new weapons in the future
feral verge
Siblings, I need your feedback. Do I:
A. Place the Terrifying Barrage (3) on th...
also, carapace damage is very low on voidstrike
fierce sinew
also for what it's worth the new modifiers they added give dummy xp
scarlet lily
These are surge staffs
fierce sinew
(those are surge staves btw)
fierce sinew
hi 3 shock troops is more xp than vanilla 5
feral verge
hi 3 shock troops is more xp than vanilla 5
yeah, but the players
still hearth
Double mods are OP
fierce sinew
the players are pepega but you level fast enough that it's more bearable than before at least
still hearth
I got T3 of everything I want
feral verge
not sure if levelling other chars to 30 is worth at that point
still hearth
feral verge
i'd just be banking on fatshark on releasing weapons with unique blessing pools
at that point
still hearth
I played Zealot for 300 hours
Then I started to level the others
And now I'm a Psyker main
feral verge
zealot is the only other class i took to 30
thats when i want brain off time
i'd be more keen on making alts if inventory was shared
like in vt2
still hearth
Immeasurably complex
wet jacinth
Immeasurably complex
Ogryn throw box
Very complex
Ogryn Kalculate trajectory and velocity of Box from hand to Nurglarite Ogryn Crusher Skull
violet fossil
Not sure what to swap unstable for
lethal folio
Nah, uncanny/slaughterer is good.
violet fossil
Nah, uncanny/slaughterer is good.
that's what I was initially thinking
feral verge
Unstable stacks 4x
lethal folio
With both, deimos can lightspam through bruisers and shred crushers.
feral verge
Deimos already does max damage thru armor, making uncanny almost pointless
violet fossil
back to rerolling for 25% flak damage 8)
feral verge
Except carapace
Where it only does 80% dmg
I think the ideal for Deimos is maniac and carapace
And unstable + slaughterer
Slaughterer will help shore up the horde clear weakness
And make Deimos decent at it
violet fossil
I think the ideal for Deimos is maniac and carapace
If using it as a mainstay sure, but flak would fit my playstyle a bit better. Anything carapace armored is getting BB'd
feral verge
Yea that's fair
feral verge
mine
ember sentinel
Slaughter/Bloodthirsty is like perfect right?
violet fossil
on what?
ember sentinel
Illsi
feral verge
Bloodthirsty is meh
ember sentinel
ive heard its really good never gotten a chance to use it
feral verge
Slaughterer and unstable power
feral verge
ive heard its really good never gotten a chance to use it
Not any more it's not
Bloodthirsty used to give force sword 5 seconds of guaranteed criticals
But that was a bug, and it's been patched
wet jacinth
ember sentinel
ah ok
wet jacinth
GIMME ME MUH CRITS
ember sentinel
i have a hard time keeping up with what the best blessings are
feral verge
You get 1 guaranteed critical. If you miss, it's gone
wet jacinth
You get 1 guaranteed critical. If you miss, it's gone
Like how I punch and miss the air
violet fossil
also why am i now seeing someone named Mankar when I just got back on an oblivion kick
get out of my head
wet jacinth
feral verge
Slaughterer+ unstable are the best. To keep unstable up, you want an illisi with low warp resist
feral verge
also why am i now seeing someone named Mankar when I just got back on an oblivio...
Oblivion is my fav game of all time
I go crazy in it
violet fossil
been playing a ton of it the past couple weeks. i learned how to use the construction kit and I've been having a blast making custom spells and enchants
feral verge
My vid
violet fossil
are they disgustingly overpowered a lot of the time? yes.
violet fossil
p l e a s e
feral verge
are they disgustingly overpowered a lot of the time? yes.
Oh sick you into that too? Peep my vid
I went all out on that shit
I've since taken it even further
violet fossil
Oblivion is a broken, unfair game on max slider difficulty. So, I choose to be a broken, unfair player.
my sheogorath robes have like, 8 enchants
sec, I'll get the effects. also we should probably move oblivion talk out of the darktide server 
feral verge
What is darktide, if not another daedric realm
violet fossil
TRUE
also i have a fun (annoying) thing with the construction set
every time i launch oblivion, it uninstalls itself and i have to reinstall the set if I want to use it again
feral verge
i make up for that with spells
violet fossil
and buffs for mania crown
feral verge
i left difficulty at default in my game cuz it doesnt matter
i only use magic, and magic isnt affected by difficulty
violet fossil
I only have the slider on full to give enemies a chance against my 200 fire/shock/frost for 2s spell
(most dont live long)
feral verge
i have an instant death spell, but i find my wombo combo more fun
violet fossil
I wish I knew more about scripting. I want a yeet spell.
feral verge
and these are my wombo combo
feral verge
(drain/absorb/dmg fatigue is better than paralysis. cheaper, and ragdolls every enemy, even those who cant be paralyzed)
cold geode
ahh oblivion pskyer chat, the best
feral verge
(drain/damaging speed breaks AI, and makes the enemy stop in their tracks/renders them blind)
feral verge
ahh oblivion pskyer chat, the best
it really is
cold geode
god damnit melk, why do you always do this when i dont have enough melkbux
wet jacinth
god damnit melk, why do you always do this when i dont have enough melkbux
What a disgusting number 4
feral verge
another day without unstable 4 fs
cold geode
that bastard had T4 rampage for the devils claw like a month ago when i was broke too
kind jay
idle bay
My Melk have not brought anything worth mentioning today. Another wasted day in Karktide
north cradle
Sire Melk stole my wife and unborn daughter
north cradle
Could get Slaughterer 4 tho
ruby plover
(i can not)
orchid shadow
Melk has this right now.. Unlike Voidstrike staff, Surge doesn't work on the Right Click on Trauma, right?
north cradle
(i can not)
Oof out of contracts?
ruby plover
north cradle
That happened to me when I saw a Power Cycler the first time
Physiologists say 70% of the human body is H₂O
But in that moment, the other 30% Wants₂Die
lethal lagoon
@orchid shadow Surge does not work on the right click of trauma, but there's a chance that's a bug and might be changed in the future. Personaly, I'd buy that, but it's up to you.
north cradle
I was going to say "You can at least put it on other staves" but you can't lol
Psykers cucked yet again
wheat olive
What are warp attacks exactly? When I power up my sword and kill something with it, is that a warp attack?
north cradle
Yeh
north cradle
Does not apply to Surge Staff nor Purgatus I don't think
rare mesa
is dmg dump stat on purgatus
feral verge
yeah
north cradle
Ya
rare mesa
thx friends
lethal lagoon
I'm helping guys, trust me. My shield is carrying.
north cradle
That calculation is scuffed
lethal lagoon
Also, don't use the scoreboard to shame people, you might get banned lmao.
I don't know if they've ever held good to their threat, but that's what a fatshark dev said they'd do.
feral verge
you'd think the shieldgryn would be obsessed with rezzing too, but he didnt even bother rezzing salcan, who just spawned in and got immediately downed
north cradle
I had a game with a Shieldgryn that was partied with another dude, and he would drop a shield while the other dude revives
wheat olive
Regarding "Warp Unleashed" perk, does the damage bonus apply to everything I do? Like does it apply to my basic melee attacks?
lethal lagoon
Yes, including BB
feral verge
it applies to everything
north cradle
It does now
feral verge
it is very good
lethal lagoon
BB with warp unleashed is hnng, can finnally one tap those stupid ragers.
feral verge
you immediately get 10% bonus damage, at 0 peril, and it only goes up from there
ruby plover
talent
orchid shadow
<@306063361324351488> Surge does not work on the right click of trauma, but ther...
I snapped it up. I does so like a bug to me and I have yet to meet a single game designer that likes weird custom attributes that work one way for an item but for some reason works a different way for something else.
ruby plover
current psyker got me kinda 
north cradle
Psyker reminds me of this greentext where anon makes people splooge on command. It's just so good
lethal lagoon
That feel when all you do is melee and BB and are 1st on the scoreboard. I love psyker atm.
lethal lagoon
I loved BB since beta. Was so sad that it fell off as you leveled, so all these buffs have been great for me.
twilit flicker
Look, visual proof that the devs play their own game, caught on camera 100% real, not staged at all. Cant say they don't play the game now can you? can you?!
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1780754697
quick python
He's toooonking
grizzled jasper
Ps Vet over there fighting for his life and I’m just 
at the shield ogryn
north cradle
Wrong
cloud sequoia
Look, visual proof that the devs play their own game, caught on camera 100% real...
Thats aqshy 
community manager
ruby plover
bro i know
lethal lagoon
To be fair, most people at launch thought shield was meta and that Ogryn sucked at t5. They also thought the only viable staff was surge.
leaden thunder
lunar hollow
people said all kindsa shit on launch lol
lethal lagoon
There were literally people kicking psykers from t5s if they didn't run surge.
cloud sequoia
we don't know the bis blessing at launch
lunar hollow
to be fair at launch we couldnt even see the tiers of our blessings
uneven compass
it was WILD as an ogryn main at launch having to try and change the opinion regarding the whole Shield being required and using anything else was bad and that ogryns had no killing power and were there solely to defend their team with a shield
people were so stuck on it for so long
leaden thunder
and now it's the exact opposite
lethal lagoon
I still remember the first time I tried Ogryn and I was so geniunely confused at how OP the class was.
stable silo
ogryns arent shield bots? waaaaat no way their fantastic ranged dmg options and amazing melee weapons are gibbed and you should be a shield bot for your veteran you degenerate block his shots and stuff lez go
feral verge
mustve been vets who were trying to dictate the meta lol
shieldgryn for block bot, psyker with surge staff to freeze enemies
cloud sequoia
Kek
lunar hollow
yeah
but i cant get one with warp resistance dumpstat
legit like 1/4th of all the ones i buy from brunt have damage dumpstat
lunar hollow
i love how like
with warp unleashed
warp resistance is actually a bad stat on force swords
since you quell so fast
feral verge
adn qieititude
lunar hollow
true
spice veldt
not strictly bad depending on what you're using it for
i'd personally be fine with 60% warp res
ripe yacht
Do forceswords require deflection to block bullets?
Because I swear I'm running an Illisi without and I can walk right through a gunner's spray and block the whole thing.
feral verge
normally, yes
but illisi an d deimos have deflector built in
more than likely a bug
from left over code
ripe yacht
How do y'all feel about deflector? Must have, or nah?
lunar hollow
deflector can have some use
i actually use it mostly to generate peril to get toughness back with quietude now
feral verge
deflector definitely isnt a must have
lunar hollow
seems to be a little faster than brainburst for peril gen
feral verge
its not bad, but its not amazing
autumn smelt
I feel like it's best in situations where you're forced into melee when gunners are still shooting at you
feral verge
for NORMAL fs use, i feel the only must have blessing is slaughterer
spice veldt
eh, if I'm forced into melee while being shot at, I can just fight while dodge-sliding
or crouch
lunar hollow
slaughterer turns the weapon into a goddamn blender
spice veldt
as long as you have toughness, getting hit by ranged won't stun you except for when you're at max toughness
so you should be able to cleanly input dodge-slides
and you can just regen toughness from killing enemies in melee
primal radish
what does toughness regen affect? only the regen when in coherency?
or does it buff the toughness you get from other sources like quietude, etc
autumn smelt
Considering I'm hearing it was recently buffed and is no REALLY good, especially in relation to ogrynn who has melee blessings that give toughness, I believe it's all sources
orchid shadow
As far as I understand, it's only regen from coherency
autumn smelt
But I could be proven wrong before I have the chance to say I could be proven wrong
spice veldt
only coherency regen
primal radish
the wording seems like only coherency regen because it says speed, not amount
spice veldt
it's good on ogryn because it stacks with Lynchpin
autumn smelt
only coherency regen
Cringe
spice veldt
the name sucks, but it affects the amount you regenerate per second as well as the delay before coherency regen kicks in
lethal folio
Everybody loves toughness recovery.
autumn smelt
Yeah some of the wording is sketchy in this game
spice veldt
i'm allergic to being with my team so I don't particularly like it
autumn smelt
But even still, buffing coherency regen is really good by itself
And I can see why stuff like that is limited
pearl lion
Am I missing something or is it OK to try and farm t4 perks by upgrading whites to blue?
Is there some trick to it
primal radish
the trick is you get fked by rng and roll t1-t3 99% of the time
wheat olive
I really want a high intensity sniper gauntlet on ventilation purge but alas, I think that's too much to ask
played one earlier and it was frantic, in a good way
autumn smelt
I haven't played it yet but I feel like Kinetic Barrage is gonna be incredibly good in it
orchid shadow
Has anyone tried a High intensity sniper gauntlet yet? I haven't seen one on the board all day
wheat olive
Has anyone tried a High intensity sniper gauntlet yet? I haven't seen one on ...
I played one earlier on Damnation, it was fun
I was lucky and had a good team of randoms, we all coordinated and were methodical
Dodging multiple snipers while trying to avoid the trash mobs is nuts
autumn smelt
Dodging multiple snipers while trying to avoid the trash mobs is nuts
I can't wait for hell
wheat olive
Also Psyker is pretty good on this mode with ventilation purge - you spam your spot button then Brainburst the red outline
Whereas Veteran has to be exposed to shoot them
wheat olive
that is some premium hitboxing
feral verge
aww
i didnt capture it
but for a solid 1-2 seconds
this vet was aiming down sights
silent geode
feral verge
with a horde surrounding him
spice veldt
https://i.imgur.com/Cf5fELM.png
what 2 cleave does to a mf
silent geode
*most of the time
sniper doing CSgo peeks is the funniest shit ngl
kind jay
sniper condition is wack
there were like, 16 in one room
it was funny as hell to hear
autumn smelt
loads into mission with new modifier to have some fun
instead gets a reenactment of WWII
is this worth grabbing for the t3 warp nexus to slap onto the one on the right?
currently got like 5.1k melkbucks
wheat olive
with a horde surrounding him
classic Vet activities
autumn smelt
classic Vet activities
i mean, he IS playing the gun class, maybe he really wants to use his gun that bad
uneven compass
Anyone try out the blazing spirit+wildfire force sword playstyle? Saw a video on it days ago but randomly just got this from the Emperor. Wondering if its any good
kind jay
its just a meme
feral verge
Anyone try out the blazing spirit+wildfire force sword playstyle? Saw a video on...
yeah its a meme
the sword kills everything before you get to really see shit burn
so you're better off just killing shit harder with slaughterer + unstable power
warped kernel
Anyone think it's worth 2.6k melk just to get a weapon to surrender Unstable IV?
feral verge
unstable power is really good
warped kernel
yeah i've been using it at III
spice veldt
mmm I think t3 unstable power is good nuff, but if you want to get a little bit more, sure
warped kernel
yeah 2.6k feels like a lot
spice veldt
it's only an extra 4% power from t3 to t4
warped kernel
but i'm tempted
feral verge
i'd get it
its the 2nd best blessing, right behind slaughterer
<@&735928989146939404>
near bluff
thx
feral verge
no, thank you
past brook
woooo thanks to the pair of ogryns and zealot that helped me get the triple elite kill with self det
feral verge
congrats sibling
uneven compass
ya just tried an easy heresy run with the blazing spirit sword with wildfire and its unfortunately not really worth it. Ended up using the infernus laspistol more than the sword
silent geode
so what exactly is soulblaze
silent geode
so popping something during hordes will dot the whole mass or something?
wish me luck
da psyker 4man
velvet crescent
so popping something during hordes will dot the whole mass or something?
duuuuuuh
im sorry i have no idea i just know that purgatus and wrack and ruin apply soulblaze which is that blue fire
topaz sable
Can Trauma get blazing spirit 4 or does it only go up to 3?
cold geode
only goes up to 3
silent geode
duuuuuuh
im sorry i have no idea i just know that purgatus and wrack and ruin a...
eems to be how I describe it
topaz sable
Awesome, about to be able to try the blazing spirit trauma build then :) with warp nexus 4
silent geode
yeah it's like
velvet crescent
Shoot gold man
silent geode
pops fire on everything in small radius
silent geode
wish me luck
we wiped super hard but it was honestly a fucking ||(brain)||blast
autumn smelt
im a vet main
brain simple
so TRUE!!!!!
silent geode
there's something very fun when all four of you have fire staff
silent geode
HE CLUTCHED IT
autumn smelt
HE CLUTCHED IT
its what psykers do
velvet crescent
if psyker has fire staff
grab popcorn
Watch horde die
in turn
make sure to shoot man near psyker. Psyker not tank.
nocturne badge
psyker and zealot definitely have the highest clutch potential
velvet crescent
psyker and zealot definitely have the highest clutch potential
all 3 classes not veteran imo?
i consistently suck at clutching as vet but i rezzed an entire team as ogryn
crystal jolt
you don't see ogryns clutch much, because either them going down throws everything else into chaos, or they don't go down and, in doing so, make sure there doesn't have to be a clutch by anyone
lethal lagoon
I frequently rez entire teams as psyker and og. On vet, it's more your job to make sure there isn't a clutch moment.
Tough to go down if your vet is actually doing anti-ranged properly
game is honestly too easy with a great vet, thankfully they are super rare.
wheat olive
game is honestly too easy with a great vet, thankfully they are super rare.
100%, a great Vet takes out all the targets before they're even close
lethal lagoon
I played like 6 t5s on my vet once he hit 30, blazed through them like butter, and never played my vet again.
wheat olive
I think I like Psyker the most because it's not as easy and it's very involved
Even though Vet is best class
wheat olive
I played like 6 t5s on my vet once he hit 30, blazed through them like butter, a...
yeah exactly same here
no more challenge, hence picking up Psyker
crystal jolt
honestly, as long as a vet can evaporate crushers and make bulwarks drop their shields, that's enough in my book.
lethal lagoon
That's literally the last thing a vet needs to be doing
Kill all the ranged and your team just cruises through.
Wait never mind, focus on that, can't have too many useful vets.
wheat olive
That's literally the last thing a vet needs to be doing
idk about that, a crusher or two at close range while there's a horde can be really difficult to contend with
I always target them as a vet when they get within crushing distance, if there's a horde
shadow quail
I like vets to be using a bolter ending the crushers
lethal lagoon
I mean everything is situational, but that's definitely not your "job".
wheat olive
also toppling over Ogryns with one slug shot to the head from an Agrapinaa light shotgun is so, so satisfying
crystal jolt
any class with good movement and decent range can deal with ranged units. If there's a mixed horde with crushers and bulwarks in, horde clear melee will not function.
shadow quail
my definition of does not function is when people drop medpacks infront of full medstations, but I have bad luck with randoms 😢
lethal lagoon
There's like a 50% chance a pub will drop a medpack in an elevator before a medstation.
crystal jolt
the other 50% is they'll hold it until the end of the mission
shadow quail
just not drop any. Boss? 3 medpacks and an ammo? lets not drop any of them
crystal jolt
the other 50% is they'll hold it until the end of the mission
(I do this all the time sorry)
lethal lagoon
I don't think that really matters unless you are dying with a medpack
shadow quail
Nah it's always they have like 30% hp lost, everyone else is fine, there is a full medstation but lets drop the medpack
ornate hamlet
game is honestly too easy with a great vet, thankfully they are super rare.
had one recently that was absolutely cracked, man was running bolter and seeing specials later than me, but would still kill them faster than i was doing brain bursts
spice veldt
well ideally everyone else should be killing faster than brainbursts
faint sigil
is sniper special condition a real thing that exists or is that just high-intensity shock troop gauntlet
ornate hamlet
well ideally everyone else should be killing faster than brainbursts
then why am i in the match 
spice veldt
because brainburst can be the best option in certain situations
and you have your staff and melee
your melee is almost certainly going to outdps brainburst
spice veldt
is sniper special condition a real thing that exists or is that just high-intens...
it's real and distinct from shock troopers; it spawns a bunch of snipers in waves
cold geode
its real, and somewhat annoying lol
but fun
getting real tired of people leaving matches the second something happens to them
spice veldt
oh and it turns out that the illisi has the same block-cancel bug as the power sword
much harder to do though
orchid shadow
oh and it turns out that the illisi has the same block-cancel bug as the power s...
What is that? I've seen it mentioned before but I can't find any info on it
spice veldt
if you block-cancel your heavy before the swing animation completely finishes, you don't consume any charge as long as your swing isn't stopped by its cleave limit
orchid shadow
Ohh, now I gotta try it
spice veldt
the timing is a bit hard and I hope you have the muscle memory to click LMB -> RMB in rapid succession and at the right timing
nvm it's easier if I just relax my muscles
ah nvm then i miss the timing
spice veldt
better thank daddy
feral verge
he crashed multiple times
and when he rejoined once, it made me crash :/
ate my stats for the game
his too
i wanted to see how many shots he blocked lol
he also tried to block the fire from the bomber
like he was blocking
bomber threw bomb
he backed up
then went over the fire to block again
then realized that wouldnt work lmao
spice veldt
the parking by bumper method
feral verge
we also had a knife zealot
so nothing really died
i had to kill everything
atleast the zealot could stay alive
the shieldgryn and other psyker kept on dying/getting downed
rose lily
are void staff perks just player preference or is there something more about them?
dusky bear
is this an easter egg/lore hint by chance?
feral verge
are void staff perks just player preference or is there something more about the...
Not preference
Void is only really good for horde and shooters
rose lily
summer prairie
infested mostly doesn't do anything because while it technically could let you charge less, you still want to mostly full charge due to it increasing cleave
feral verge
You never want carapace because void's base carapace DMG is awful
So yeah, there's a reason for choosing void perks
summer prairie
keep elites, get rid of horde dmg
Helps vs a few elites depending on WU/charges
shotgunners mostly
rose lily
keep elites, get rid of horde dmg
@feral verge this makes more sense to me, especially because of elites like shotgunners/gunners
pearl lion
Phew, 15 missions at any difficulty to go and then im done with psyker penances
sterile lake
guys, how are the new force swords
i played a bit on release and then after some time uninstalled
so i am out of the loop
summer prairie
very good
sterile lake
ok cool, i think i will wait for new staves and then maybe reinstall
psyker was the only one where i did not manage to do t4
but i also somehow have developed troubles with blocking so there is that
wheat olive
unless I'm missing something, that has to be one of the worst Blessings I've seen
4% extra power at most?
summer prairie
it's 4 per stack at 20,40,60,80 peril
cyan notch
for t3 yes
spice veldt
just fatshark description-itis
wheat olive
hmmm, that's not bad I guess. Not optimal, but not as bad as I thought it was
too bad the perk is trash
spice veldt
a sequence of events that I'm particularly proud of https://streamable.com/zos0u9
tall temple
is surge a real blessing for the void strike?
spice veldt
yes; it also exists on the trauma staff, though it only works on the LMB of the trauma staff, whereas it works for both the LMB and RMB of the voidstrike
feral verge
hmmm, that's not bad I guess. Not optimal, but not as bad as I thought it was
It's the 2nd best blessing imo
Behind slaughterer
It shines on a low warp resist sword
near wyvern
is surge a real blessing for the void strike?
It's not as good as it sounds
Unstable power is not a lot but if you use Deimos it's just enough to make your 2nd heavy reliably one shot mutant heads with +maniac perk
summer prairie
first target
summer prairie
first target modifies the displayed attack values
hybrid glade
Neither of them has a blessing or perk that increases first target hit though
summer prairie
the stat
quiet galleon
hey guys new to the game and i just got psyker to 30, is this thing decent?
river sand
kind jay
perfectly usable
bump it to orange, swap the 4% crit with flak or maniac, and then put slaughterer on
quiet galleon
thanks guys
near wyvern
79% damage. 162 light attack 122 heavy attack
This one is ruined
near wyvern
This one can be salvaged, roll sprint efficiency into +maniac and swap exorcist into unstable power and you should be able to one shot mutants on 2nd heavy head with some warp charges and peril
potent glade
what are the go to blessings and perks for the mk 5 force sword
kind jay
slaughterer and your choice of unstable power, bloodthirsty, or deflector (or anything really). perks probably maniac + flak
slaughterer alone will carry the weapon for life
so just look for that
kind jay
for melkbucks?
full egret
yeah
kind jay
i wouldnt
full egret
seemed funny
kind jay
unless you have enough to spare
full egret
other option is a rending and warp nexus staff
mostly curious how many the 250% would go though
summer prairie
There's now plenty of time to quell between DH attacks https://streamable.com/a2syq2 granted this is with a ton of stamina.
but no dodging
ionic frost
does anyone else love the loner psyker's plasteel tag? "PLAAASSTEEEEEELLLL!!" =)
near wyvern
@summer prairie you had +9 Stam there? I have only found one +3
near wyvern
Not for KD?
ionic frost
no
near wyvern
Yeah but the hard part is to get them
ionic frost
meh
not hard, just time consuming, due to rng bs
it's why i love this game but give it a thumbs down
they need to make it more accessible to casual players
almost at 1k games now...
completions that is
near wyvern
Well I have played for almost 400 hours and only ever seen one +3 stam curio
Plus I camp the shop while I do remote work
With the browser extension
ionic frost
i played 4 toons since a couple weeks after launch, made a 2nd psyker 2 weeks ago
mm, that's bad luck for you, or good luck for me
i run two +3 stam curios on zealot and psyker, and 1 on vet
vet has +34% stam regen
started using mods+browser extension a few weeks ago
wish i did it sooner =)
it made me almost want to change it to a thumbs up...but they still need to fix some shit that i could fix for them cheap if i applied and they hired me
just out of love for the game
summer prairie
I'd guess I've around 10 +3s, at least close to that
Once they fix FS inner block range you can probably do this with a single +3
ionic frost
there's a spot where you can't block if they're too close to you?
i'd never notice due to my prevalent pushes...
summer prairie
No, there's a typo in the inner block range definition. I believe it always uses the outer block range due to it
ionic frost
swing, swing, swing, push, (turn 180 degrees,) push. swing...
almost invincibility if you do it right
summer prairie
Which has a much worse block cost modifier
ionic frost
no matter the horde density...until you run out of stamina
tho with illisi i think you can just use a single push and good heavies to do the same thing...
north cradle
Are two people with the same gender and voice combination not allowed to have a conversation with each other in the game?
ionic frost
not sure
north cradle
I was waiting for my male Seer Psyker to respond to another male Seer Psyker about my killstreak, twice
ionic frost
maybe they just have 1 line? don't recall
twilit badger
Are two people with the same gender and voice combination not allowed to have a ...
They do
I've had the moment they exchanged convo few times
honest drift
anyone got easier way to do pick n mix? doing random games does not work 🥺
summer prairie
play hi/shock troops
obtuse moth
but honestly if you do it on hi intense with six warp charges, barrage and peril resist feats it happens pretty naturally as long as you aim enough above heads to focus elites and specials
summer prairie
You can get it nearly any time hi/shock spawns a set of specials if it's not mutants. Obviously easier with some elites around
summer prairie
well yeah you should
twilit badger
That makes you able to kill crushers with 2 BB
thick carbon
I uh.. I'm not sure this is how the Stub Revolver is supposed to work...
twilit badger
I uh.. I'm not sure this is how the Stub Revolver is supposed to work...
Psychic
Duh.