psyker-class

[summer prairie]

it's helpful then

[spice veldt]

not just about surviving while surrounded for keeping enemies at bay

[summer prairie]

you can do this kind of spam push when someone is just trying to do one of those stationary objectives though

[spice veldt]

still more effective than pushing and far easier to accomplish

[summer prairie]

true, but any melee can do this

[spice veldt]

sure, but once again, it's more reliable

[summer prairie]

yes

[neat sand]

But there is no wrong play here Variety is the spice of life 🙂 we can't all run mk5 and a flame staff lol

[spice veldt]

and there's the issue of running out of effective pushes

I'm not saying it's the only right way to push

my only argument is that it's better than pushing

that's it

and I'd prefer it over killing enemies with Purg where my teammate has to wait for the enemies to die before they can progress

which would be troublesome if enemies are infinitely spawning, such as on ammo raid

I have had nonstop spawns on that map

[neat sand]

Wait? Terrifying suppression locks down hords and the lock down range is much greater then that Trauma staff even with a small charge

[spice veldt]

the point isn't to make a horde get stopped in place

the point is to move a horde out of your way at a moment's notice

there's also the fact that it's easier to coordinate pushes in a pub when your teammates can immediately see that you can blast Groaner's/poxwalkers out of the way

remember, I'm talking about Hab Dreyko's investigations, ammo raid's finale, and excise vault's finale

[neat sand]

If they are suppressed the scanner can go about there business who needs to move them ? You sent more time moving them around , dot>suppression scan as they die

[spice veldt]

the stagger from trauma also lasts longer and had a larger radius

oh actually

that's a lie

trauma can only go to 8m currently

[lethal folio]

You can't suppress poxers

[spice veldt]

really? dafuq

[neat sand]

You might need that extra time ,my flame staff makes them dead much sooner so I can do something else :p

[spice veldt]

I only need 1.3 seconds to get a full trauma staff charge off at 80% charge rate

[lethal folio]

I think groaners are the only melee unit that can be suppressed.

[spice veldt]

If you're counting charge time and killing a groaner from max HP, a terrifying barrage Purg is going to take longer to kill it than it takes for me to fully charge my trauma staff

and just blast the ground underneath myself or a teammate

[summer prairie]

barrage does nothing

[summer prairie]

doesnt even seem to work on dot kills

[neat sand]

Things die fast enough for me :p

[delicate stratus]

Only works on direct damage kills, which is very few for staff I think

[spice veldt]

sure, but we're on the topic of which is better

I'm not debating that Purg can or can't do the job

but I once again prefer an AoE over a cone

[neat sand]

Bringing me back to the point every one has there tast you like rings I like cones of burning people 🤣

[spice veldt]

bruh I just said I'm not disputing that

you can run whatever you want

my point is that the trauma AoE would be strictly better than Purg or melee pushing through the possibly infinite hordes during the finale of excise vault and ammo raid

and a bit more reliable in Hab Dreyko because of the AoE knockdown compared to a conal power-buffed push

[summer prairie]

purg is way better for suppressing groups of shooters

[spice veldt]

I kind of moved away from the Purg for shooters since although the flames are transparent on low settings, it's still a bit of visual clutter to my teammates

I should prob try it out again to see how it fares though

in my head, I'd prefer the trauma because you can peek in and out of cover if you need to with the instantaneous blasts

though there's the Soulblaze dot

[summer prairie]

oh sniper gauntlet

[orchid shadow]

Oooh, I'm queuing in to one right now. Gonna be a BB fest

[spice veldt]

what

[orchid shadow]

Fog + Snipers

[summer prairie]

it should send them in waves like hounds

[idle bay]

And they still able to shoout through some walls 🙂

[orchid shadow]

Omg, it's madness

5 sniper shots coming out of nowhere

[idle bay]

And those shots can wake up Deamonhost

On positive side - sniper shots blew-up poxbusters 🙂

[late yew]

wat, how?

[idle bay]

They do friendly-fire damage to other enemies

[spice veldt]

Daemonhosts automatically wake up if they take too much damage

like 500 damage to other enemies

[summer prairie]

sniper gauntlet doesnt spawn enough snipers imo

it's like 5-7 and not frequently at all

[spice veldt]

if it were more frequent, sniper gauntlet sounds like it would be good for getting myself into the habit of visually looking around more

[olive ember]

its like

10 of em at a time

normal spawns until it has like a special sound affect like hunting ground pox spawns

and then it spawns like 10 snipers

[spice veldt]

well that's a shame

what's the point of snipers if theyre announced in advance

[summer prairie]

haven't seen 10

[rare furnace]

Maybe more toughness is good now

We quell very fast

[rocky cedar]

Toughness was always good

[rare furnace]

I got rid of my wound and have 3 stamina now I feel pro

[rare furnace]

For psyker people used to say wound and life

[rocky cedar]

There really has never been any kind of consensus on Psyker curios

[orchid shadow]

Hmm, yeah. The "static crackle" announcement of a sniper wave seems like it dampens the tension.

[rocky cedar]

I know plenty of people here who've basically always run toughness

[summer prairie]

and vet highlight

[rare furnace]

The sniper in the most thing?

Mist 🌫️

[rocky cedar]

So blazing wildfire trauma honestly feels better than I expected

[astral lark]

stamina ftw

[rocky cedar]

Kinda overkill horde clear if you're going the AB route as well but it is pretty funny amounts of horde clear

[summer prairie]

lets you AB ult without going for 5-6 charges

[idle bay]

When you realize that wounds and health are simply measure of your own failures 🙂 And work making less and less mistakes - stamina becomes more and more atractive 🙂

[rare furnace]

Does second hit H in illisi do more dmg?

[rocky cedar]

Slaughterer force sword already let's 4 stack blaze do work

[astral lark]

i started with stamina on my vet and am now raising psyker

stamina becomes more attractive learning how sprint dodges ranged when not facing enemy

and pushes better

[spice veldt]

same damage as the 1st heavy

[astral lark]

blocks better

[cyan notch]

theres quite a lot of snipers like 7-10

[rare furnace]

Ah because I noticed if you block push and do second attack on combo

[tall temple]

doesnt the peril cost block scale inversely with stamina

[rare furnace]

Was the sniper thing out two days ago?

[summer prairie]

It was around 7-8 for me and maybe 4-5 spawns overall

[orchid shadow]

Yeah. my initial experience with it was "oooh, cool" because I wasn't sure what I was listening for and it caught us in an odd spot with vertical sight lines and we were kinda split up. But once I heard the sound, it definitely loses the tension. Plus it seems they give you ample time to get ready.

[rare furnace]

Or not

[rare furnace]

Ah I see

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's just that pushing/push-attacking chains into the 2nd light/heavy unlike the obscurus

[summer prairie]

we'll see if high intensity modifies it, it does set specialist spawn timers to 25% but not sure if that affects sniper spawns or not

[idle bay]

It does , though it's not really that needed.

[rare furnace]

Ye

Maybe that’s why they added the block on force

Okay I’m gonna hope In Game

I’m feeling it

[olive ember]

TBH given how jank snipers can be

With invisi lasers and insta shooting I’m kinda glad they gave a spawn sound

Or it would just be obnoxious

Like round a corner and get shot down by 5 snipers

[spice veldt]

though I'd rather the mode ingrain into players the habit of passively looking around

[summer prairie]

don't think I've managed to get terrifying barrage proc a single time with purg

if it does anything at all, it's close to nothing

[viral solstice]

[olive ember]

great

look whos here

[viral solstice]

[olive ember]

hows your day been

[summer prairie]

Got it to proc with the staff special attack, so if you like those you can run barrage

[karmic copper]

Is there any spot that has general best in slot blessing trait combos etc, like royal w/cheese vermintide guides? I see the questions asked regularly. I used to be able to link immediately to favorited info ingame in v2 or v1, but i havent seen that stuff yet here/darktide. Im constantly curious about this or that and dont have any concrete info. Nor anywhere to check if x FS i just made can hit breakpoints with 4 stack/6 stack plus this talent blabla with 25/20% flak, muty etc.

[olive ember]

not rly

i dont think so atleast

[karmic copper]

I figured if you or vanessa responded, it was as it it. I see you two the most id say

[olive ember]

atleast nothing where everything is compiled

[karmic copper]

Dang

[spice veldt]

there's a calculator you can use that I'm not in the time or place to post its link

[karmic copper]

I was elated when someone made a proper comprehensive script map guide. Its always open ingame

[summer prairie]

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

it's easier to use than any of the v2 ones

[karmic copper]

How do people get those damage links for poxwalkers etc showing cleave damage etc for specific weap9n swings and such

[orchid shadow]

There's this one, but I don't think it has all the info you're asking for. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[olive ember]

thats kinda just general info

[summer prairie]

it's the link above

[olive ember]

idk if it goes into specific weapon breakpoints and traits

[spice veldt]

with the calculator that syllogism just posted

[olive ember]

but yeah theres no like "heres the meta run this" or wte compendium to my knowledge

[rare furnace]

YOO SNIPERS IS SUPER FUN

I JUMPED DOWN to 6 snipers while running and I had to clap em and dogde 6 shots it was super feeling

Matrix moment

[orchid shadow]

I just got turned into swiss cheese on a T4 run. If you don't manage the initial engagement, they just add up and just a hail of bullets after that. 😦

[rare furnace]

I managed ; )

[karmic copper]

Tyvm ive skimmed that guide ages ago or something close. Its all up to date too. Its still info. ♡

[steel flame]

Is Wildfire a good feat?

I really only use the fire staff and was debating between Wildfire and Warp Battery

[river sand]

its not super bad but also not super useful, just like warp battery ^^

you probably wouldnt notice it anyway

[steel flame]

fair enuff

ty

[olive ember]

@steel flame what are you building

if the answer is not "Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus Trauma/Voidstrike"

then its close to useless

[steel flame]

Im using Purgatas staff

[olive ember]

theres a hidden limit (bug?) where it doesn't transfer with enemies that already have 4 stacks or more

yeah no use warp battery

[steel flame]

aight, ty

[orchid shadow]

sad trombone surge noises

[olive ember]

warp battery is almost always more useful on purg

[olive ember]

I mean I use surge

was funy

[stone pulsar]

do the staffs share blessings?

[patent steeple]

btw the psyker feat and blessing steam guide states that kinetic shield also reduces toughness damage taken from melee, but idr if it says that ingame as well.

[orchid shadow]

Lol I know. I should try Voidstrike one day. I have a Voidstrike with Surge on it, but I can't aim to save my life.

[spice veldt]

yup; just fatshark description-itis or they wanted to have the feat only affect ranged toughness dmg reduction but didn't have the time to code that in yet

[still hearth]

Nope

[spice veldt]

either way, it also reduces melee toughness damage

[stone pulsar]

darn.

oh well i am going to use the flamethrower staff anyways

[olive ember]

oh yeah mean surge blessing

lmao

lol

[stone pulsar]

just gonna strip the warp nexus off.

[still hearth]

Not T4

[stone pulsar]

meanwhile melk has not given me a power sword in 4 days T_T

[olive ember]

just buy it kek

[patent steeple]

a shame its in the same tier as peril blocking... otherwise it could be slightly more widely used

[olive ember]

use all your money

[olive ember]

some people prefer it over peril blocking

those people are wrong

[spice veldt]

i prefer it since a +stam curio is good nuff

[olive ember]

right Arcotash?

kek

[spice veldt]

i'm always right

never had a wrong opinion in my life because opinions aren't real

[olive ember]

lol

[feral verge]

i live at high peril now

so i might give kinetic shield a shot

[rare furnace]

FINNALY found the mission I was missing on psyker and it clutched for tier 2 hood as well 2 helms at once I’ve been in damnation for over 2 months hahaha

[feral verge]

congrats sibling

[honest frigate]

fucking going out with a bang

worst penance ever

[feral verge]

yea

dont use kinetic flayer when trying to get it

[honest frigate]

I STILL DONT HAVE IT

ITS THE ONLY PENANCE

[feral verge]

i got robbed by it, the first time

[honest frigate]

IM MISSING

[stone pulsar]

so err siblings, any tips on killing 7 enemies by pushing them off a ledge?

[twilit flicker]

Milk man blessed me with a t4 Pinning Fire yesterday, just in time for the comm link to announce that it won't get balanced in the next update!

[twilit flicker]

Psykinetics Wrath popular, I did it by just attacking them at an elevated spot where the whole team was. Places like the top of the train on Consignment Yard HL-16-36. Is that the right name?

[hybrid solstice]

bros...

[twilit flicker]

If you can get your team to cooperate it would be much faster and less painful than just hoping.

[rare furnace]

You can force push them too

The chasm I think has many holes in the floor

Early

[shut ether]

Hadron PLS 🙏

[karmic copper]

I had some big bros and lasses wait for me at the end of a hi damn qauntlet to docmy FUCKING PENANCE yesterday. We spent 10 mins because 1 fella had hp bars and was timing it all. Second try i blew up 7 ragers at once and then they went and revived me below and back to the ship, to finish my penances. Bunch of absolute siblings

And they offered

[hybrid solstice]

just gotta farm mats

[twilit flicker]

The spot I got it was that elevated side path on Consignment Yard, after the bathroom area you enter though a hole in the wall. That doesn't sound sketchy.
Er I think it might have been a different level.... ?

[rare furnace]

My 3 stamina with 5 tougness rolled xp and grim corruption res

[shut ether]

I did the same at the end of obuliette and killed 2 ragers The bolter vet killed the remainder

[rare furnace]

Well xp is getting swaped

Or roll next curio

[karmic copper]

@shut ether yeah i never ever ask. It was a really tough 40 min run and i was blown away when the one guy on voice specifically asked me if i still needed pick n mix or bang. I said yes and the other 2 started a pushin. It was a teary moment for real. I remember doing cata deeds with QP in verm and youd do 2 or 3 and everyone would split and a nrw friends list or two would be attained.

[feral verge]

its always the vet

[stone pulsar]

do you have to push them off into the void, or just a high enough place?

[feral verge]

void

[cloud sequoia]

🔥

[near wyvern]

Sprint efficiency must be good with that Run N Gun

[magic burrow]

fire all the hips

[safe crystal]

Its runnerer n gunnerer

[spice veldt]

i'm gonna run, and then i'm gonna gun

[cloud sequoia]

Can't exactly stab someone and detonate void inside their body

[forest coral]

If it ain’t gunnin, then it runnin

[karmic copper]

Omg void special should be a hold and explode like planting a fucking rasengan inside them. Same lock as fs specials. Except trauma blow on ignition

Bahahahaha

[forest coral]

Only if

Instead we have emotional damage simulator

[cloud sequoia]

Hehe staff go bonk

[vagrant hollow]

hello guys would you give me some builds for voidstrike staff? 🤔

[cloud sequoia]

I still can fix the staff abit with warp flurry and, flak not optimal but bearable

[cloud sequoia]

Warp flurry, and peril on weakspot hit blessing

[vagrant hollow]

and talents?

[spice veldt]

Quietude if you take transfer peril, Warp Unleashed since you don't care about peril generation, and the rest are sort of up to personal preference

[cloud sequoia]

Yea something like that

Hmm i think something is wrong

[spice veldt]

was it the 2 on the 5th feat

[vagrant hollow]

something like this?

or quicken

[cloud sequoia]

Kinda

Quicken is funny

If you pick lvl 15 the 2nd one

The aura

[vagrant hollow]

yeah you have quick recharge with ult right

like kill 2/3 elites and you have it again ready

[cloud sequoia]

2

[steel flame]

What blaze force sword is the best?

[spice veldt]

depends, but deimos and illisi are generally considered to be superior to the obscurus for whatever purpose you run them for

[cloud sequoia]

Deimos for single target

Ilisi for multi hit

[steel flame]

ty

[karmic copper]

Keep in mind with the right blessings, both can 1hit ko ALL trash. Ill has literal sweep animations and dfs has rodiculous stab damage for elites

[feral verge]

slaughterer and unstable power are the main dmg blessings you're looking for

executor and precog are trash

[dry crypt]

is this the right place to ask for help with penances?

[feral verge]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042832970211397735

this is what youre looking for

or whatever region you're rin

[dry crypt]

oooo thank you

[feral verge]

np

just type somthing like

lfg psyker penance help (insert your penance here)

[late yew]

iWhat blessings and perks should i get for purgatus?

[feral verge]

this

warp flurry + warp nexus

crit chance + unarmored, or maniac

[idle bay]

Why not Flak?

[late yew]

Opinion on this?

[feral verge]

soulblaze already does double damage to flak

[feral verge]

bad

the burn stat is awful

burn and cloud radius are the most important stats on purga

[late yew]

also worth taking any blessings from this?

[feral verge]

no

they're only t2

[late yew]

Fuck. So i guess better strip warp nexus from it?

[feral verge]

on both blessings are bad

[late yew]

so what , i just barter it?

[still hearth]

Tbh, yeah

[feral verge]

you could strip warp nexus off but

t2 perks are bad

[still hearth]

You won't use T2 warp Nexus

[late yew]

fuck

[still hearth]

Focused Channeling

[feral verge]

you want the burn stat to be 76% or higher

[still hearth]

Maybe

Because its T2 only

But it's not a great blessing

[late yew]

What are good trinkets though?

[feral verge]

i run all HP

some ppl prefer toughness

[spice veldt]

i run 2 tough and 1 stam

[feral verge]

i dont recommend wounds

if you are curious, max hp possible on psyker is 267

[still hearth]

I enjoy double HP, stamina

And max sniper resistance

Revive speed is also required

Gotta save those losers fast

[feral verge]

nah

i run HP blessing, HP perk, and toughness regen perk

[spice veldt]

i run 3x stam regen, 3x block eff, and 3x toughness

[still hearth]

Ew HP perks

Ew block efd

[viral solstice]

HP stands for health perk

[feral verge]

psyker already has insane stam regen

[viral solstice]

so hp perk is redundant

[spice veldt]

they have an insane stamina regen delay

and it doesn't hurt to have more of a good thing

[viral solstice]

block efficiency is only useful for devil claw

so u better bs using it

also

[spice veldt]

useful for force swords having 1.5 block cost because fat finger

[viral solstice]

based melk

thank u

[still hearth]

Just use peril block lul

[spice veldt]

i refuse

i like my passive peril quell

[viral solstice]

blocking in darktide

sounds like user error to me

how about locking

[still hearth]

I lock lips with all heretics

[spice veldt]

amongus

[cyan notch]

nice finesse

(not nice)

[spice veldt]

no need to be jealous of crab

[late yew]

Do all staves share blessings?

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/50cent-smile-driving-oh-well-im-out-gif-5135974

[late yew]

why

[uneven drift]

No.

[spice veldt]

currently, all existing staffs are of different families

[still hearth]

Currently none of them share blessings

Even the ones with the exact same blessing pool

[late yew]

fuck, another orange GUN

[still hearth]

[late yew]

Thank you Emperor

[spice veldt]

guns are just bullet staffs

[late yew]

So what are other builds, aside from purgatus?

I would like to see void staff b uild

[viral solstice]

iditot i just need the blessing to MAXIMISE my goidroollss

smh.....

i obviously would never use a non 80 finesse dc (thats devil claw, if u didnt know)

[cyan notch]

you have no godrolls stop lying

[viral solstice]

lying is a human failing

[still hearth]

Voidstrike feats is basically the same as Purg, you can even run Ascendant Blaze but it's harder to get free stacks from it.

[cyan notch]

i remember when even fatshark called it ascending blaze

[late yew]

OTherwise only kinetic barrage worth it?

or Quicken fine too?

[still hearth]

Quicken is okay

[late yew]

What about perks and blessings for void

[still hearth]

Unarmored + Flak. Warp Flurry and Transfer Peril

This lets you reliably kill shooters at like 70% charge

And spam down hordes

An alternative is Warp Nexus + Surge for playing at high peril but it's more management and not as rewarding imo.

[cyan notch]

flakmored

unflak

[lime peak]

Haven't messsed with Voidstrike at all, just been using Trauma. What does it do?

[ruby plover]

ball

[viral solstice]

owned noob

[lime peak]

I've heard bowling ball b4 lol

[viral solstice]

[shadow quail]

Flak the best for this?

[cyan notch]

378 t3 specialist COPE COPE COPE COPE

COPE COPE COPE COPE

[viral solstice]

??

IT LITERALLY HAS t4 BRITTLE AND ALL OR NOTHING t4?

ARE U DUM

IT CANNOT BE IMPROVED

[spice veldt]

wheres ur t4 brumo isn't that the real godroll

no need to hide the good stuff

[viral solstice]

no that is optimal

theres nothing about it that can be improved

it goes on the mantlepiece

[cyan notch]

COPE X78

[spice veldt]

smh ok crab

[viral solstice]

sry ur just mad and bad u will never own a swag an item

[lethal folio]

Not stacking thunderous and decaptitator :[

[sly shore]

any difference between sabers?

[viral solstice]

decapitator is meta now

[spice veldt]

ikr

[viral solstice]

i refuse to abuse it

[cyan notch]

default skin no trinket having ass

[viral solstice]

when the item is godroll u dont need skin, its radiance blinds u

[viral solstice]

i tried to using an eviscerator for one mission and i can confirm

that weapon

is peepee

[spice veldt]

is great

amazing

DL

D:

[viral solstice]

almost inspirationally bad

11/10

[cyan notch]

its a power fantasy weapon

[viral solstice]

yes, because feeling powerful with it feels like a fantasy

[cyan notch]

like YOO BIG CHAINSAW SWORD

[fringe garden]

Push attack into heavy is fantastic on evisc

[viral solstice]

push attack into heavy kills poxwalkers slower than light spamming on a vet shovel

btw

[lethal folio]

It looks fantastic

[cyan notch]

like HAMMER ITS ELECTRIC ZAMN

[viral solstice]

it does indeed

[lethal folio]

It is a pure farce.

[fringe garden]

If you say so

[viral solstice]

i mean u can test it

the push attack has a 3 target damage cap

[fringe garden]

Sure

[grizzled birch]

Hey Sibilings. I'm thinking of rerolling block efficency to damage vs unarmoured. What do you think?

[austere sandal]

so close to greatness 😦

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[spice veldt]

only unarmoured enemies are dreg enemies, scab bruisers, and groaners so I would personally advise against it

[grizzled birch]

What would you put instead?

[spice veldt]

probably +maniac for mutants, dreg ragers, and the other specialists

since they are enemies that sort of enforce a DPS check

[grizzled birch]

Ah, ok, makes sense.

[feral verge]

For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary

[grizzled birch]

Thanks Arcotash

[spice veldt]

whereas groaners only have 200 hp and it's usually fine to kill dreg enemies marginally slower once you've got them melee-locked

[grizzled birch]

Ah I didn't know that

[weary idol]

Snipers too

[spice veldt]

ah das right

if you really hate snipers and want to beat his shit up

[grizzled birch]

Haha 🙂

[spice veldt]

you don't necessarily need to go down twice to benefit from wounds since you'll have 66% max HP after your first down instead of 50%, and Psykers do have the amazing ability of peril mismanagement to take full advantage of it. Of course, I wouldn't recommend wounds over hp/tough/stam, but they're not too terrible

[still hearth]

Wounds

[late yew]

BB feels so useless if you have good vet in team

[feral verge]

the more wounds curios i see in damnation, the less confidence i have in the team

[still hearth]

If someone runs +3 Wounds they're either useless or godlike

[feral verge]

maybe, until there's 90 bulwarks/crushers

unless the vet has bolter

but it can be agood thing

it means you can BB less, and use staff more

[still hearth]

BB is just free

Like grenades but free

Gives a lot of peril for Quietitude

Oneshots most things

[spice veldt]

BB is nice for catching fast enemies as well and all that

certainly not a "use in every situation" tool, which is a good thing

[feral verge]

i've ran kinetic shield for a few games

and i think i like it

for my main build

[spice veldt]

another one joins the dark side

[feral verge]

i live at 100% peril the whole game anyway

[viral solstice]

yeah the dark side of the really obviously good toughness dr talent being good

who would have thought

[feral verge]

so its just free 33% dmg resist

[near gale]

Wait what about my side?

[viral solstice]

are the pills tasty

[near gale]

Yes

[spice veldt]

well share them with the class

[near gale]

They taste like gummy bears and vinegar

[spice veldt]

sounds food safe

[near gale]

it is

[late yew]

deflection so good though

[feral verge]

you dont have to tell me that

[weary idol]

Toughness damage reductions so shooters stop eating you alive

[feral verge]

i've been running it for literally 400 hours

[spice veldt]

and then you become the eater of shooters

and then garbabbelelslkbsdidsbgbisbgbusbgs

[near gale]

bus bugs?! 😮

[spice veldt]

buh>?

[feral verge]

i just want unstable power 4

if only i could destroy all these legendaries in my inventroy

for plasteel

thats the one thing my build is missing

to become complete

i've spent 50k plasteel trying to get it

[late yew]

Kinetic barrage actually so nice for when a bunch of ragers/ogryns incoming

[feral verge]

over 50k

[late yew]

ok, so what can i do with coins noow

love teams with 1 of each class

[feral verge]

buy from this store

[late yew]

Really hate playing with severeal psykers

[late yew]

well yeah

[feral verge]

start rolling weapons

[late yew]

But i mean, is there any point now

[feral verge]

yeah

[late yew]

Don't i want to upgrade weapons that i get as emp gift?

[feral verge]

you upgrade the greys from this store, farming for blessings

[late yew]

Sicne they will hav e higher power?

[feral verge]

no

emp's gifts are usually low

[late yew]

yeah, i do that, but plasteel now limiting factor, not coins

[feral verge]

they are usually 330~

[still hearth]

You want to roll brunts until you get a solid base then upgrade it, hope you get good stuff, then rinse and repeat until you get something good.

[karmic copper]

do i spend the coin? i rarely use pergerters but a near godrolled stat one is always something to grab onto. obv have rank 4 Nexus to toss onto it. is carapace just max garbage? id assume 5%crit replace sprint and nexus replace terrifying

[still hearth]

Nah

[feral verge]

Carapace bad on purga

[spice veldt]

is my leg being pulled with that spelling of purgatus

[feral verge]

Terrifying barrage bad

[still hearth]

Not enough of an upgrade imo

[karmic copper]

again i have rank 4 nexus to pop ontop of the barrage

kk

[still hearth]

If it was T4 flurry

[late yew]

How do i know what is solid

[karmic copper]

yeah id prob buy it just to buy it if it had t4 flurry

rgr

❤️

[still hearth]

If it has 360+ stats in the right mods

[spice veldt]

for melees, Mobility/Defence is the usual dumpstat; for Force Swords, Warp Resistance is another dumpstat
It's a bit more complicated for staffs such as the Trauma staff where you want 80% in charge and blast radius

[late yew]

Very hard to get that as grey

[feral verge]

Generally, look for high damage and first target melee weapons. Finesse is good too. Warp resist is the dumpstat.

[spice veldt]

spend dem dockets

[feral verge]

Not that hard at all

[spice veldt]

in the late game, I find myself getting gated by dockets more than materials

[feral verge]

Don't rely on emp's gifts

[late yew]

There is higher plasteel drop on diff 5?

[feral verge]

It's rare to get a psyker weapon gift, and it's even harder to get a good psyker emp gift

[feral verge]

Yes

If you collect everything, on most maps I think you can get up to 800 plasteel

[spice veldt]

805 max iirc

[feral verge]

What I do with brunts is

I pick one weapon type I want to roll for

Buy a shitload

Sell all the ones that are below 350 UNLESS there's something like a force sword with low peril resist (cuz I like having that stat very low)

Then I keep all the 350+s

The 370s~ i might try to upgrade for use as a main weapon

All the crappier stuff below that, I keep so I can upgrade them to farm for blessings

Even if I don't want any blessings ATM, I keep them so I can farm later, just In case something changes

[late yew]

thanks, that is very useful

[hollow current]

god the best thing about the force swords is that you can dodge faster than anyone can sprint, even knives I think.

[late yew]

Wildfire really combines nicely with purgatus and AB

[late yew]

I still don't understand why infinite dodge a thing on them

[feral verge]

Nah

Wildfire is useless on purga, and in general

You want warp battery

Warp battery and ab were made to go together

[hollow current]

When there was just the obscurus it was a neat thing. But with the other two it's like whew. Why use any other melee.

[feral verge]

Wildfire sounds like it's good, but it's not, unfortunately

[late yew]

THANKS EMP FOR ANOTHER ORANGE GUN

3 of them now

and i think they all the same

[vestal rose]

embrace gunpsyker

[late yew]

gunpsyker is fun with recon actually

so you use high fire rate to trigger BB

[vestal rose]

recon, shredder, stub revolver, autogun

[ruby plover]

erm but dude

[vestal rose]

so many options

[ruby plover]

think about how much stamina

i save

okay tbf the quell while moving talent is nice

just a

[late yew]

You get milk for killing DH right?

[feral verge]

In malice maybe

[ruby plover]

i didn't say its good homie

[feral verge]

You get nothing from killing dh

Just slows the run down

[ruby plover]

darktide player dont randomly ego for 2 seconds challenge

[feral verge]

Not worth ):

[vestal rose]

killing dh can be fun :)

[ruby plover]

kill every dh on sight just in case someone in your group doesn't have the achievo

[late yew]

i gotta do that one annoying chlalenge for killing boss with only BB

[feral verge]

Aggoroing every dh is funny in lower difficulties with thammer on zealot

[feral verge]

Need shieldgryn

The one time it's useful

[near wyvern]

Welcome to crafting. I have 14k diamantine, 0 plasteel.

@late yew don't forget to keep an eye on the hourly shop. There is usually some 360+ 370+ weapons there every hour. There is also a browser extension if you want to camp the shop while at computer.

[feral verge]

Me too

I still can't decide between crafting blues, or taking shit all the way to legendary

For best t4 farming rate

[near wyvern]

If you are looking for T4 definitely upgrade to orange. Seems to be much more consistent with 370+ weapons tho.

[feral verge]

I spent my 20k saved plasteel the other day

Got 4 or 5 t4s

But no unstable power

Which is all I want

[near wyvern]

Seems about right, was about to say I seem to get around 1 in 5 oranges to roll T4

[feral verge]

Alas, alas

[near wyvern]

So that's around 10 games per T4 roll

Which is around 5 hours play time

[feral verge]

This whole time I've been playing damn + modifiers for fun

But I think I should stick with regular damn

For farming

[near wyvern]

Damnation hi gauntlet is fun

[feral verge]

Yeah it's my fav

[spice veldt]

im surprised you're locked by mats instead of dockets

[feral verge]

But failure rate is obviously high, and not the best for farming

[near wyvern]

Low intensity mission are where the plasteel per hour is the best but I don't like them, boring

[spice veldt]

o

[near wyvern]

How can you not be locked by mats?

[spice veldt]

getting god rolls on stat distributions

so I only care about 375+ base weapons

I already got the curios that I want, so none of my mats are going to them

[feral verge]

I've had everything I've wanted for awhile

[spice veldt]

and I'm still gated by getting 17%tough/21%hp curios

[near wyvern]

In some cases a 350 is better than 370, for example FS with unstable po wer, you want into have crazy low warp resist so you can pump it up real fast (Deimos Mutant one shot hellooo)

[feral verge]

I just want t4 unstable power to complete my main build

[spice veldt]

maybe, but with the Illisi, I still want a low warp res to spam my special into a group of ragers/maulers

[feral verge]

That's the only thing that's missing

[spice veldt]

unstable power is a bonus, not something to strive for

unless you were going for a staff build to generate peril for toughness

[near wyvern]

That's what I do

[spice veldt]

for me, melee is my main game

[near wyvern]

Nexus Spirit Trauma with Unstable Deflection Deimos

[feral verge]

i'll post my main build

[spice veldt]

i had a game where I realized just how little I used my staff

though that was on enclavum baross which is free money for melee anyways

since i accidentally brought a shitty gun from testing in the meatgrinder

[late yew]

Worth buying?

wrong chANNEL

[spice veldt]

smh

i'd save your milk coins unless you don't have the blessing

even then, you'd probably get it through consecration

[summer prairie]

This is very slobby, but shows how easy it is to solo a DH if you have at least some space and time. You can probably alternatively just sneak in some Deimon pokes https://streamable.com/ybk18b

[late yew]

i don't

[feral verge]

my main build

as i've been saying unstable power 4 is the only missing piece

[near wyvern]

Why exorcist and why Illisi with Purge?

[feral verge]

good question

that illisi is a peril generating machine

as you know, means its real easy to reach max peril, for max damage

exorcist + quietitude + battle meditation + toughness on melee kill means insane toughness regen

when light spamming a group

[near wyvern]

But even slaughterer T3 is more damage at 2 stacks

[feral verge]

yee ik

i dont use illisi for horde clear

[spice veldt]

light spam 😡

[feral verge]

that's my purga's job

[near wyvern]

Why no Deimos then?

Or you use it just to pump up peril?

[hollow current]

Deimos master race

[feral verge]

i use illisi for stragglers, or smaller groups of enemies, and muties/dogs

[feral verge]

yeah peril pumping, and i like how i dont get stuck in an enemy

i still like deimos though

when that sword rolled exorcist, i was dissapointed

but i gave it a try and found that i really like it

[feral verge]

i heavy/special spam in a group

but if my toughness dips, or im at 100% peril because of my purga staff

[spice veldt]

i always heavy stragglers since you can always prepare a heavy while sliding and then one-shot them with a headshot

[feral verge]

i light spam, and my peril rapidly decreases, for toughness gain

[feral verge]

same

[spice veldt]

i consider lightspamming to be extremely suboptimal unless you're caught off guard and need to stagger an enemy

i hate lights

[feral verge]

yeah it is

[spice veldt]

i'm going to unscrew the lightbulbs in my room

[feral verge]

if unclear, i ONLY use it if i need toughness, or to drain peril

ill use purga till 100% peril

swap to sword

throw a few lights in, peril drops fast af

go back to purga at 50% peril

[spice veldt]

i'd probably just proc slaughterer and manually quell with my force sword held out

[feral verge]

HAHAHAH this guy quells lmfaooo looool

can you imagine

[spice veldt]

😔

[feral verge]

• brought to you by never quelling gang

[spice veldt]

mfers never held down the reload key in their lives

[feral verge]

(except when i do quell when shooters kill my toughness and im not close enough to kill anything)

65% of the time i have sword out

maybe more than that

just going room to room, killing stragglers, swapping to purga to stagger a group, then i might melee them

when it's horde time, purga comes out

now that i think of it, i kinda play like a flamer zealot now

[ruby plover]

actually i like lights in chains

a lot of heavy>lights are nicer than heavy spam feelwise

but FUCK light spam all my homies hate light spam

[spice veldt]

yeah at least for the purposes of safety

doing the 2nd light for the illisi to get to the push earlier

just make sure to talk the 2nd light down to make sure that they never foster any positive emotions

they should be ashamed for existing

[west galleon]

Im not sure how to feel about quicken.
I like the 2 charges and i do enjoy a reduced cd, but i also dont like having to think about my warp charges

In the first place

[hollow steeple]

I have no idea what purpose uncanny strike will serve for me but it was that or shred 1 lol

[fiery atlas]

here's something u may not know of

but

illisi special does weak spot damage

[fringe garden]

I've been mucking around with a slaughterer2/blazing spirit4 Illsi. With wildfire it can spread soul blaze around and keep your toughness regenning decently. I can appreciate the mindlessness of it.

[hollow steeple]

I mean obviously I aim for noggins

but rending is basically just anti-armor stuff, right?
I rarely use this thing vs stuff like crushers

[tall temple]

do gun psykers bother keeping peril up for the extra damage

[feral verge]

i dont gunker, but i would do that, when i could

[hollow steeple]

I imagine you just run Illisi and pop the special every now and then
but I can't picture trying to go out of my way to do it in the middle of a horde unless you're meleeing anyway

[ruby plover]

[feral verge]

infested isnt bad

on illisi

[hollow current]

yeah still workable

[ruby plover]

ya not full bricked

but alas

[feral verge]

pretty sure it gets you past 1 shot breakpoints

[hollow current]

just roll slaughterer or unstable IV ez

[ruby plover]

one more round...

[feral verge]

praying for you

but if you roll untstable 4, i will preying on you

because i need that

[idle bay]

Is there anything interesting happen in dev stream? Did any important question actually got answered there?

[summer prairie]

Quelling is so quick now that you can dodge slide quell while getting shot at https://streamable.com/hvktw5

[past parrot]

Maybe useful if you build stacks on a horde then need to kill some armored Ragers/Maulers in the crowd?

[hollow steeple]

maybe

[spice veldt]

damn

now i'm actually regretting my choice of keybinds

maybe if they allow us to bind two keys to one action

[summer prairie]

you can just let them shoot at you to build peril, then dodge slide quell to recover toughness. If you are confident

[spice veldt]

mouse5 for quell sounds like a good idea if I ever set up an AHK for it

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/beu3o7

[spice veldt]

i assume you have quell on your mouse?

[summer prairie]

No, i've dodge slide on my mouse, still using R

[hybrid solstice]

welp the rolls on that near perfect deimos i got earlier were ass

however melk had this blessing drop for me so it's not all bad

now i just need uh

bloodthirsty?

[feral verge]

UNTALGBE POWER

UNSTABLE

[true cobalt]

i wish this force sword was good but its just not

[frail berry]

Whats the best way to farm Slaughterer IV? Green->Blue or Blue-->Orange?

[hollow current]

That could still be fun since the charge doesn't stick.

[true cobalt]

its fun just not good

[hollow current]

Just throw slaughter on it then I guess.

[true cobalt]

i have a 2nd force sword this 1 is for memes

[hybrid solstice]

or that too

[hollow current]

making 5 psykers and camping Melk at the daily refresh

I got mine from an emperors gift funny enough tho

[frail berry]

yikes heh

[hybrid solstice]

you can try that if you are resource rich but i just got mine from one of melk's daily offerings

[hollow current]

Trying to get blessings from upgrading is possible but just be prepared to be disappointed.

[summer prairie]

It could easily cost you 30+k plasteel

[hybrid solstice]

okay am i replacing exorcist or uncanny strike

i can try for another more minmaxed illisi (blessing wise) in the future but for now this is what i got

[feral verge]

crit damage is bad

on all weapons

[true cobalt]

@feral verge it was for the meme of max crit gona change it at some time

[ornate hamlet]

replace uncanny and use quietitude 🧠

[hybrid solstice]

well that would be a nice idea however with tier 3 exorcist i have to get three weakspot hits to restore 5% toughness and i would rather regen more toughness with essence harvest for killing things with purg and BBing specials which i'd regularly be doing anyway

[ornate hamlet]

quietitude works with passive quell and doesnt require a warp charge, which means no killing or getting lucky with communion

[hybrid solstice]

by passive quell do you mean the battle meditation passive

[ornate hamlet]

if you are in a pinch, you can wank your force sword a bit and quell

no, i mean the quell that happens when you dont gain peril in a while

it lowers by itself and that lowering will give you toughness

[hybrid solstice]

i already regen toughness without having to do it deliberately just via communion and AB procs

[hybrid solstice]

that's interesting

[ruby plover]

goodbye

[feral verge]

i respect that

[hybrid solstice]

still, i think i'd rather have the passive upkeep of harvest

[feral verge]

quietitude is amazing

[hybrid solstice]

since it doesnt necessitate me deliberately building peril to work

[feral verge]

ever since the quell buff, quietitude is def the meta

[hybrid solstice]

well i'll consider it

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UyAv2rMiM

look how fast

[ornate hamlet]

quietitude works as passive upkeep

[feral verge]

41% warp resist

[spice veldt]

and you only need a nonzero amount of toughness for the ranged dmg reduction mechanic to kick in

[ornate hamlet]

quietitude is just great

[spice veldt]

without needing to kill (warp absorption) or get a warp charge (essence harvest)

[hybrid solstice]

ah interesting

[spice veldt]

as long as five seconds pass (on damnation)

I like to run into shooters so quietude is my preferred choice

[feral verge]

besides actively BBing, with essence harvest you're merely hoping the psychic communion/ab will grant you a warp charge when you need it

[wintry plover]

What perks should trauma have?

[spice veldt]

you've got the right perks

[feral verge]

that's good

[spice veldt]

+unarmoured and +flak

[hybrid solstice]

unarmored and flak is the way to go with trauma

[feral verge]

congrats

[wintry plover]

Thanks

[spice veldt]

also that's basically my dream trauma staff god damn

[hybrid solstice]

i will be interested to see what the red trauma staff looks like

[ornate hamlet]

mans got the best staff in the game

[spice veldt]

1 second charge time 100% quell speed trauma staff

would be god tier

[hybrid solstice]

trauma is so good with the quelling changes

[spice veldt]

i'd throw away flurry in a heartbeat

[feral verge]

nah, see his staff is shit because he only has 20% flak damage, not 25%

thus he should bin it and go back to the drawing board

shit staff

skill issue

try again

[hybrid solstice]

what would you run instead of flurry would you say

[feral verge]

stay in malice buddy

[ornate hamlet]

i dont get why rolls only go to 80% and the stats range from 0% to 100%

[spice veldt]

focused + rending

[feral verge]

focused lmaoooo

[hybrid solstice]

oh yeah focused is cool

[spice veldt]

since I don't even bother using my trauma staff for killing anymore

[feral verge]

bro get better positioning

[spice veldt]

I just use it to stun as I hold W into ranged enemies

and any enemies caught in the epicentre are an accident

[ornate hamlet]

like, it shows fs finesse giving 1,25x crit and weak spot or something, but the 1,25x is unattainable because its 100%

[hybrid solstice]

oh man 100% charge time, 100% warp resist AND flurry

just shitting out trauma blasts

[ornate hamlet]

whats the best blessing on a revolver

[umbral jetty]

gun psyker is a blast

[ornate hamlet]

ive been doing gun psyker and revolver psyker has been fun

[ornate hamlet]

fuck yeah bro

[spice veldt]

i hate gun psyker because I get sad when quietude doesn't give me a single point of toughness and then I get shredded by ranged

i got stunlocked by ranged into a mutant which made me particularly sad

[hybrid solstice]

well i think if you go gun psyker you would not use quietitude right

[spice veldt]

without a staff as my primary, I actually need "good positioning"

[hollow steeple]

I cannot fucking believe you have done this to me, hadron
why are you like this

[spice veldt]

i don't like to swap my feats around because of my bad memory, and I'd still take quietude because I build around my melee, not my ranged

[ornate hamlet]

fr tho i need to know whats a good blessing on revolver

anyone

[feral verge]

Staff

[spice veldt]

gloryhunter and some other blessing idk

[ornate hamlet]

stfu

[hybrid solstice]

80 warp resist
it was already over before it began tbh

[spice veldt]

it doesn't exactly have a great selection of blessings

[still hearth]

It doesn't have any

[hollow steeple]

ngl I don't really use it specifically for building peril

[still hearth]

They actually nerfed the good ones to the ground

[hollow steeple]

I like just spamming the special when I feel like it

[still hearth]

Trickshooter resets on reload. Crucian gives half irs bonus

Like what

[ornate hamlet]

WAHHH i like revolver and it feels like shit now

[hybrid solstice]

if you still want to use it you can try for the second blessing and hope it's good and then replace the +1 stamina and riposte

[still hearth]

Revolver was always mid and then they nerf its blessings

[ornate hamlet]

laspistol and deflector fs meta

[still hearth]

[spice veldt]

devastating devil claw flashbacks

[hybrid solstice]

you could do a lot worse than elite melee damage

[ornate hamlet]

whats a good gun other than autopistol for psyker

[hollow steeple]

honestly I may upgrade it to possibly eat the blessing lol

[still hearth]

XII

[ornate hamlet]

laspistol laspistol laspistol

[feral verge]

S

[still hearth]

The good headhunter

Maybe one of the infantry guns

[ornate hamlet]

laspistol

[hybrid solstice]

that's good too, if you roll slaughterer IV or something you can have that for future illisi swords

[near wyvern]

Las pistol is just a worse MG IV

[still hearth]

Laspistol is a cute meme

[ornate hamlet]

shut

[spice veldt]

agripinaa infantry

[ornate hamlet]

its a powerful tool of destruction and rage

[hybrid solstice]

agripma

[spice veldt]

grandma

[hybrid solstice]

agripma di

[spice veldt]

agipm

[hybrid solstice]

nah nah nah jk :^)

[spice veldt]

smh

[hybrid solstice]

unless..?

[spice veldt]

naughty naughty

[hollow steeple]

I have slaughterer 4
I want unstable 4
maybe deflector I guess, I doubt they're going to let the new FS keep innate deflector permanently

[near wyvern]

Agrimimanamana

[ornate hamlet]

ima use laspistol then

hold on lemme share my current force sword

[feral verge]

I need unstable 4, too

[ornate hamlet]

here

[feral verge]

My 1 missing piece

[hybrid solstice]

yeah just any of the decent tier 4s you dont have yet would be good to roll

[near wyvern]

Better get auto fire mod or prepare to have your index finger hurt

[feral verge]

Deflector is already on the Deimos and illisi, built in

[ornate hamlet]

they should do what i say and make deflector innate to all force swords

[hollow steeple]

it's kind of ridiculous how easy it is to farm mats now that I'm playing damnation

[feral verge]

It's a bug

[ornate hamlet]

then make the deflector blessing block ranged on revive

[ornate hamlet]

autofire and what else is a good blessing

whats the best blessings for las

[hollow steeple]

and regular and LI damnation give a ton of mats and honestly feel easier than heresy

[still hearth]

That's the neat part

[ornate hamlet]

what be autofire mod

[still hearth]

Laspistol has no good blessings

[spice veldt]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87

[viral solstice]

ghost is great now

it resets

t4 ghost is pretty fucked

[spice veldt]

:o

[viral solstice]

i assume it was fixed with bm so all that family is stronk

[hybrid solstice]

it would be sick if there were a blessing that made the heavy laspistol shots pierce enemies for a line aoe

unless another gun does this already that i am unaware of

[ornate hamlet]

revolver

[hybrid solstice]

oh does it actually

[ornate hamlet]

yeah, you think theyd give the gun 5 shots and make it shit?

[viral solstice]

revolver pens like 3 shotgunners

[spice veldt]

revolver has 6 cleave iirc

[viral solstice]

its got crazy pen

[ornate hamlet]

i mean, i think they would, but they didnt in this case

[viral solstice]

its just got no power blessings

[ornate hamlet]

[hybrid solstice]

yeah lol

[still hearth]

Wdym Crab

[hybrid solstice]

but okay that's cool

[still hearth]

It has Trickshooter

Which it can get 3/5 stacks off now.

[leaden thunder]

i've askd this before, but how does trickshooter work if you hit multiple headshots

[spice veldt]

wat, does trickshooter not work properly?

[still hearth]

Doesn't matter since it ends on reload now apparently.

[viral solstice]

it resets on reload

[ornate hamlet]

what works properly in this fucking game

[spice veldt]

f

[still hearth]

Psword

[ornate hamlet]

real

takin a warp shit in my warp bathroom brb

[hollow steeple]

I mean Illisi feels incredible

and I hear Deimos is super strong as well

so like, force swords work now?

[feral verge]

Ya

[still hearth]

Illisi is just a Psword with dodges

And one charge

[hybrid solstice]

illisi is a great weapon but its special only lasts for a single swing unlike psword

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10V9qOJMSgyHJ5/d1337bt74uJw?invite=cr-MSxmSXYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

revolver fucks tho

[hollow steeple]

oh but you know what, the question was "what works properly"
and nope, the new FS both have bugged deflector built in and therefore are not working properly lmao

[viral solstice]

ok i have better news

trickshooter

does fucking nothing

[hybrid solstice]

they should make deflector passive and make the blessing just randomly reflect projectiles back to enemies or just make it a straight up big block cost reduction blessing

[viral solstice]

[spice veldt]

wat

[ornate hamlet]

whats the best blessing for las pistol

so i know what im looking for

[viral solstice]

just tested

doesnt increase damage

[ornate hamlet]

idk lol

[viral solstice]

at all

same target chaining headshots

multiple targets

[ornate hamlet]

i do think ghost is genuinely good tho

[spice veldt]

ghost and some other blessing

[ornate hamlet]

wait, people like ghost?

[spice veldt]

yeah i mean it's straight up immunity to ranged damage

[ornate hamlet]

i mean, the laspistol is a bit of a headshot or nothing gun

does t he gun have

run and gun

if i can use run and gun on it

that would be great

[spice veldt]

no but you can shoot while running with it by default

[ornate hamlet]

the gun has a respectable hipfire

oh ok

[spice veldt]

oh nvm

it does have run n gun

but it doesn't matter anyways

[viral solstice]

it does have run and gun and its built in run n gun used to end if u shot too first

[kind jay]

another glorious day to get cucked by hadron lets gooooo

[leaden thunder]

been feeling that

trying to get a goddamn decent agripina autogun

[elfin crystal]

the hup fire fires kinda all over the place tho. forget about accuracy unless you're 2 cm from what you're shooting

[robust relic]

Ok, quandary, I think I keep my current here and wait for nexus 4? 76/80 are both 15 stack burn, I'm not sure the extra base dmg/cloud/5% more maniac is worth switching and not having nexus 4 eventually on new?

[olive ember]

Hum…

I forget if you hit any noticeable breakpoints between 76% and 80% burn

[leaden thunder]

it ticks like

[olive ember]

The extra cloud radius is nice tho

[leaden thunder]

half a second faster

or something

[summer prairie]

More like 0.01

[olive ember]

Honestly not sure

[leaden thunder]

funny crit staff

nice

[weak herald]

[robust relic]

in the end state the tradeoff is 5% more nexus crit and slightly higher burn tick rate, vs 5% more maniac and slightly higher cloud/base...

actually, same tick rate, inspect show no diff 76 vs 80

I suppose I'll just keep it around in case someday they make terrifying barrage OP

[olive ember]

I mean you can roll specialist to unarmored or wte

And then just slap flurry on the staff on the left

The only problem is if you get a nexus 4

Dunno yeah up to you rly

[rose lily]

what're the best blessings for dueling sword?

[leaden thunder]

using a demios force sword instead

[shut ether]

I made one of these too and it sucks ass

[feral verge]

Deimos sword is the new dueling sword

But if you're insistent on dueling sword

All of the blessings for it are meh

There is nothing in particular that stands out as strong

But if I had to pick one, I'd pick shredder

[rose lily]

yeah deimis rocks, great dodge distance too

[leaden thunder]

shred + uncanny/riposte probably

[feral verge]

And you can scratch off precog cuz it's bad

I hope they buff the dueling swords big

[midnight violet]

for all the surge staff users out there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phA722h086c

[ornate hamlet]

hey what does stopping power do again

is it important

i cant remember

[hollow steeple]

hadron you absolute gonk

guess i wasted all that plasteel for riposte 2

[spice veldt]

hit V when you have a weapon focused in your inventory and hover over the stat

[leaden thunder]

generally it increases damage delt to certain armor types

[ornate hamlet]

yeah but what does it do

\

ah never mind i can read it

[rose lily]

bro slap a deflector on that sucka

[feral verge]

It has deflector built in

So does Deimos

It's most likely a bug

[magic burrow]

yeah I imagine they forgot to clear a flag when they finalized it. Bound to get fixed.

[rose lily]

@feral verge right, the bug will be gone

[feral verge]

when its fixed, i will have this

the shieldgryn fs

[rose lily]

sick

[hollow steeple]

honestly I dunno
i felt like deflector lead me to playing in a really defensive style that didn't help the team

i DO use it right now to bumrush shooters but that's kind of a crutch