#psyker-class

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pearl lion
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Like, if you're solo then yeah it might not help with many break points

near wyvern
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The 3 stacks don't do that much damage. If you double crit for 6 it's a different story. Also 3+6 on elites is funny.

Trauma + Deimos doesn't have any problems to deal with anything so I bring the 6 stack ult for that "fuck my team mates are dumb" moment so I can just clear the room and get them out of trouble in a few seconds.

pearl lion
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But realistically that Crusher you're BBing has probably taken a few bolter rounds, or a slash with a powersword

summer prairie
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3 stacks doesn't but the point is to ult to add more

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and then you don't have to wait until you have 6 stacks

near wyvern
spice veldt
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for me, it's not good in comparison to the other pairing of aura + flayer

pearl lion
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Yeah thats fair

spice veldt
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I would rather have CD on elite kill over 8% extra damage

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though I do have problems maintaining warp charges with flayer

summer prairie
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I can't dispute your own experiences, but I don't sit at 6 stacks all the time with just communion

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You do get more from blazing spirit when it triggers but if your ults don't clear full hordes you'll be stuck with few over long runs

lethal lagoon
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4 stacks isn't enough to BB a rager, no?

olive ember
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Alright zealot chat is trying to speedrun any% ban so

lethal lagoon
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At normal peril I mean.

olive ember
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I’m back in psyker for now

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What sane things are you guys talking about

spice veldt
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talking about how devil's claw is the best melee

olive ember
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Very sane

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vicious strike BiS yeah?

spice veldt
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ye

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gotta get all the "damage" you need

olive ember
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What about second blessing?

spice veldt
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i'd take trauma because the repeated hit encourages you to never stop spamming LMB

twilit flicker
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Plus it gives you extra style points for knocking that crusher over like a bowling pin.

ornate hamlet
spice veldt
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typical grad student having good dreams

supple skiff
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sincerely hope that weapon balancing they mentioned in the comms link leaves our new toys alone staregryn

spice veldt
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-50% dodge distance on the illisi

grizzled jasper
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fatshark heard you’ve been enjoying the poky sword shame if we nerf it

ornate hamlet
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Your teachers tell you your article is like super important and then only the evaluators and a chaos god check it out ogryn_pathetic

olive ember
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I mean

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What you expect

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To actually contribute in your field?

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Maybe one day

vagrant frigate
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so close to a perfect deimos, got really bad blessing luck

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3900 to mutants without slaughterer

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almost enough

olive ember
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It’s the first target

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That 65% roll on first target honestly is what hurt the weapon the most I think more than the blessings

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Also do keep in mind that in an actual game you will probably have some peril and some warp charges so expect an uptick in damage

stray radish
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Quick Q: Is Quietitude regen toughness only about active quelling or passive too?

olive ember
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Both

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It’s what makes it rly good recently since the quelling changes just makes it super reliable now

pearl lion
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I will be genuinely surprised if they don't nerf the FSs in some way

dry oar
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Essence harvest better imo

olive ember
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Shush shut

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;-;

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Well actually idrc cuz I still have my old obscures

dry oar
pearl lion
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I imagine they'll either remove unlimited dodges or lower the damage

magic burrow
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I get the whole peril building for bonus damage, but I still think it looks funny to see a Psyker happily petting his sword while a mob burns to death in front of him

pearl lion
olive ember
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Look at how pretty it is

spice veldt
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the first nerf was nerfing the cleave from infinite to a finite number and then giving it damage falloff with each target hit

dry oar
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yeah so PS has like 2 hits of boosted cleave while the new force sword gets one hit of boosted cleave/dmg

olive ember
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If they take away unlimited dodges I’m actually going to mald

spice veldt
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monkey's paw: -99% dodge distance

olive ember
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The worst part is that that’s when all the fucking balance slaves will come out of the woodwork and go “comon unlimited dodges was cheesy and clearly unintended”

stray radish
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and what is Soulblaze? I don't understand works of Wildfire at lvl25...

olive ember
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That’s all you rly need to know tbh unless they buff it or rework it again

dry oar
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Soulblaze itself is kinda goofy

feral verge
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deimos and illisi needed

stray radish
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but it's like AoE de-buff for enemy or what?

dry oar
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its a DOT

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That spreads if the target dies

olive ember
feral verge
pearl lion
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I still hope we get a force weapon that does an AoE stagger on special

feral verge
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it DOT burn damage, like the zealots flamer

olive ember
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So think flamer dot, but for psyker since they are both dots

stray radish
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aaaa gotcha :D

pearl lion
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Like a force mace or axe

olive ember
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But they are considered different from flamer dots

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Less dmg iirc

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Compared to flamer

magic burrow
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the hidden power of soulburn is that it makes every mob super visible so the veterans don't pile on the one guy you are brainbursting

pearl lion
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You cant target the blue headed guy if they're all blue headed

olive ember
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Lmao it makes it so no one else can aim Is what you are saying

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“Super visible”

stray radish
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so at 25lvl what is more reliable? 6x warp charges or 10% of brain burst?

olive ember
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Depends on the build

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Certain builds will take one over the other

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You use ascendant blaze?

dry oar
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the extra 2 charges is like 8% bonus dmg or 12% warp resist, best pick imo

spice veldt
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ignoring wildfire, the lvl25 feats and lvl15 feats are somewhat paired with each other

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you usually either take Psykinetic's Aura + Kinetic Flayer or Warp Communion + Warp Battery

olive ember
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Not necessarily I stopped using Communion with battery

spice veldt
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i hate BBing so at least communion or flayer has to be picked

stray radish
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well I'm still learning Psyker. Got Illisi and Voidstaff. Right now at lvl25 and running 3-1-1-1-maybe3 xd

olive ember
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Flayer typically unless you are running purge

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That’s the thing when you run purge AB generation is enough imo

dry oar
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Essence harvest, Inner tranquility, Communion, Kinetic deflection, warp battery, and quicken. My favorite way to play.

pearl lion
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BBing rules tho

magic burrow
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I feel voidstrike doesnt really build charges well since you spend less time brainbursting, so I would go flayer over battery

olive ember
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quicken

spice veldt
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BB is fine with barrage but I otherwise hate it

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killing bulwarks too since I hate bulwarks more than I hate using BB

dry oar
# olive ember *quicken*

Sounds crazy but I tend to use my ability for everything but peril. CC for revives or pushing away a burster that slipped to close

magic burrow
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a pure quicken brainburst build is funny if you just want to pop heads and roleplay as the shouting Dragonborn guy

dry oar
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So the 70% refund is nice

olive ember
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For voidstrike I’d say maybe play safe and go for 3/1/2/1/3/3 first

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And then play around with communion and warp battery if you think you can forgo flayer for warp battery for that extra 8% damage

stray radish
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thanks for a help! :))

summer prairie
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barrage BB with aura feels amazing on hi/shocktroops. Even better when there's another psyker with aura

magic burrow
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psyker feats are all pretty decent now, and you have to try hard to make a build that sucks by picking feats that obviously do nothing for the weapon you are using

frail summit
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any gooood

leaden thunder
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for funny fire staff build sure

frail summit
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is that a thing 🤔

feral verge
dry oar
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Trauma force or voidstrike which is objectively better for horde clearing?

summer prairie
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void

dry oar
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I figured

magic burrow
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trauma is hard to use when youre getting overrun

olive ember
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But yeah

feral verge
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trauma is the best when youre getting overrun

olive ember
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Prob the only thing wildfire is good for tbh

feral verge
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its void that struggles

void mural
frail summit
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what're the feats?

olive ember
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And everything near you gets knocked

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Great space creator

spice veldt
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trauma is the one that's better when you're getting overrun yeah?

magic burrow
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I guess. I just never liked trauma.

spice veldt
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faster charge time and much larger AoE

frail summit
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this? 🤔

olive ember
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Probably 3/1/2/1/2/2 or 3 ?

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Idk ehh

spice veldt
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if not for the 80% stat cap, trauma's charge speed would outpace voidstrike's by 0.3 more seconds

dry oar
spice veldt
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albeit only every 30 seconds minus CDR

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pretty useful when you're coming out of airlocks/elevators

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such as the one in excise vault where there are two potential patrol locations to all descend onto you after the interrogator event

leaden thunder
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-the psyker going crazy yelling "KNEEL"

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-the ogryn trying to find this neil fellow

olive ember
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Savants like “YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE”

dry oar
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"I command thee kneel"

leaden thunder
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"initiating crowd control"

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I like that line

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at least on the male savant

dry oar
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Seer best

pearl lion
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Loner is best boi

dry oar
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obviously

leaden thunder
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it has really good delivery

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I personally use male loner

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but I like the crowd control line

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it's very cold

magic burrow
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have you heard the story of Saint Messalina? It's not a story the zealots would tell you.

leaden thunder
olive ember
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I mean he is an ex cop so

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Yeah savant having a line for crowd control

leaden thunder
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I think they added a new line continuing that btw

dry oar
leaden thunder
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where the judge is actually interested

olive ember
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^^

leaden thunder
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also

wet jacinth
olive ember
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I remember one of the zealots actually cares

leaden thunder
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is there two solaces

dry oar
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yes

dry oar
wet jacinth
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The funny thing is

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We initially met because someone tagged them instead of me

dry oar
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:P

leaden thunder
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someone tagged a different sean instead of me

olive ember
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Which one is the one from GTFO

dry oar
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How does one fumble that bad

olive ember
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So I can rant about how jank GTFO is

dry oar
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GTFO is fun

leaden thunder
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well it was still Sean but it had numbers after it

olive ember
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And how underwhelming seeing the e1 T posing slide tank is

olive ember
dry oar
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<_>

olive ember
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@wet jacinth how about you

dry oar
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._.

jade imp
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What should I be looking for, blessings wise on this?

ornate hamlet
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Moar Slaughterer

feral verge
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Keep unstable power

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Keep slaughterer, but get a higher tier

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God I wish I had unstable power 4. Jealous

jade imp
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Ideally what blessings should there be on it?

feral verge
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Change crit damage to maniac

jade imp
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Or is that a good roll? I'm oblivious.

feral verge
jade imp
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Maniac? Gotcha.

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Oh, wow.

feral verge
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Slaughterer and unstable power

jade imp
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So, got lucky.

feral verge
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Very very lucky

ornate hamlet
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Blessing 1: Slaughterer T4
Blessing 2: Doesn't Matter T3

jade imp
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New to psyker.

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So, that's a good start.

feral verge
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With warp unleashed + unstable power, you've got 49% extra damage at high peril

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At 80% peril

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Oh wait got my math confused

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45% extra damage

spice veldt
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though damage and the damage boost that comes from power are multiplicative with each other iirc

feral verge
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If you add 6 warp charges from warp battery, you've got a whopping 69% more damage (funny number, but I'm not joking)

jade imp
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Gotcha.

ornate hamlet
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Special Activation on the Ilsi Blaze into a poxwalker/groaner horde will instantly charge all 5 Slaughterer stacks. And then you just keep killing.

jade imp
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Run surge or voidstrike with this?

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Seems like not a flame thing given feats.

spice veldt
feral verge
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To build peril fast with that sword, use the charge special, them swap to your staff, them back to the sword and use the charge special again. Do it over and over to get perio

spice veldt
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if I look at the buff UI, I usually only get 1-2 stacks even though I'm certain I've killed at least 3 both in the meatgrinder and in missions

feral verge
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Flame staff is for hordes

jade imp
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Ok, sounds good.

feral verge
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Deimos sword for tougher enemies

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Cuz it's more of a single target weapon

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Overall, I don't recommend surge staff

jade imp
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I guess, I use it on hordes too, seems to do allright.

feral verge
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Yeah it's not bad on hordes

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Illisi is better obvi

jade imp
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Yeah.

robust relic
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THE TIME HAS COME, I got 2k plasteel, time to watch Hadron ruin my dreams

feral verge
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But it's purpose was designed for single target

feral verge
jade imp
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Fair.

spice veldt
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view dragging be like

feral verge
# jade imp Fair.

The ONLY thing id change about your sword is the peril resist. The lower, the better

ornate hamlet
feral verge
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But what you have is really really good so

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Keep it close

jade imp
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Really? Why? Doesn't it allow me to play with high peril longer?

robust relic
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I'll keep unarmored I guess, T2, which is sad

feral verge
jade imp
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Yeah, but you can do that really quick on brains or whatever.

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Staff, etc.

feral verge
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High peril means more damage, and more toughness from quietitude

spice veldt
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i'd say that low warp res is only really for quietude

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though battle meditation does proc a lot with illisi

feral verge
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The only staff you can get high peril sort of quick with is trauma

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Even then, I think sword special spam is faster

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Especially with illisi

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Peep my vid

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41% peril resist

feral verge
magic burrow
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watch me go mad touching my sword

feral verge
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Executor for slaughterer, and unarmored for flak

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Infested is good cuz it lets you 1 shot poxwalkers

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And dogs

ruby plover
robust relic
feral verge
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Damn

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I would've kept infested

robust relic
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infested is literally just poxwalkers

feral verge
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1 shot break points on poxies

pearl lion
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And dogs I think?

feral verge
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Yeah

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It's worth it for the breakpoint

robust relic
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dogs, but they tend to die in a split second anyhow

ruby plover
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dogs is for da shredder

spice veldt
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unarmoured is only groaners and dreg enemies (excluding the head of dreg bruisers)

feral verge
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The faster you kill poxies, the more slaughterer stacks you gonna build

robust relic
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too late now 😦

spice veldt
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f

feral verge
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I warned u ):

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But that's still a nice sword

magic burrow
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Veteran: "see, I press this button, my sword starts glowing, and I swooce an entire horde"
Psyker: "Interesting. It's the same for me, but I also go mad as a bonus"

cold geode
robust relic
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scabs have unarmored as well, various bits

feral verge
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my main illisi

spice veldt
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though you're usually headshotting them anyways

vagrant frigate
magic burrow
vagrant frigate
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UNSTABLE POWER IS NUTS

magic burrow
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Im still looking for slaughterer

feral verge
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I have been trying to get unstable power 4 for weeks

feral verge
magic burrow
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yeah I know, Im spending my memesteel trying to find slaughterer

feral verge
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Unstable power 4 is the last piece to my main build

ornate hamlet
vagrant frigate
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i have every t3 and only two t4's

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it sucks

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on fs

spice veldt
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seems like a general inconsistency of it not tracking every kill made by your melee properly or something

feral verge
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I spent all 20k plasteel that I had saved

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Got 4 or 5 t4s

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But no unstable power

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It's making me unstable

magic burrow
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I settle for T3s. If I get a T4 its a bonus

feral verge
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Same

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But I have all t4s now on my build

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Except one

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So it's bugging me

spice veldt
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did another cleave into a bunch of groaners and only got 1 slaughterer stack

feral verge
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It's taken me longer to get unstable 4 cuz I've been playing for fun, not for mats

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High int damnation+ shocktroop when I can

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Maybe I should just get back to plasteel farming on low int damn and regular damn

magic burrow
pearl lion
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I should really just start playing damnation

magic burrow
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which of these is worth getting

spice veldt
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neither

neat sand
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i took my Mk5 out for a spin today chopping ogryns in half tiggles my funny bone XD

feral verge
spice veldt
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force sword deals 100% damage against all armor types except carapace on heavies, and you shouldn't be using lights anyways

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executor stacks get dropped extremely easily

wet jacinth
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This number would've been much bigger if I consistently played back then for rundowns 3-4-5

olive ember
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i mean 4 and 5 are the hard ones

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idr how hard 7 is in comparison

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just that 7 is just

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jank as fuck

pearl lion
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I played it a few times during the free weekend and wasn't super impressed

robust relic
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has anyone ever rolled T4 blessings on a blue? wondering if it's easier to farm T4's by rolling/selling blues than waiting for the Milkman

feral verge
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It's def possible

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I've heard you're more likely to get a t4 from going to purple to orange though

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I have no idea what's more optimal

spice veldt
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i'm usually gated by money more than mats, though that's partially because I only really care about two weapons in this game

olive ember
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and what are those two weapons

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I'll be judging you

cold geode
spice veldt
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it may come as a large surprise that it's the trauma staff and force sword (friendship ended with obscurus now it's illisi)

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i'll shit in your pants thyazide

feral verge
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Based

cold geode
spice veldt
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not mutually exclusive

cyan notch
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i have 0 t4s with trauma lol

cold geode
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true, what are you doing later?

spice veldt
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pull a skaleek and get bad rolls

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I only got my first t4 for trauma a week ago

wet jacinth
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In terms of difficulty

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Some select levels are difficult but pale in comparison to R5

feral verge
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Laugh at him with his T2 blessings

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Lmaooo lmaooo LMFAOO ooool ahahahah

cyan notch
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i have t3s

feral verge
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Get t4s

wet jacinth
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Use a common 380

shut ether
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This new hi intensity squads is fun as fkkkk though

forest coral
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Runs are like

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everyone fine and almost full health for most of the run

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suddenly everyone less than 25% of health and 3 players are crowd controlled and on fire

olive ember
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sounds bout right

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was it assassination too?

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perfectly smooth run and then suddenly everyone down and eating shit

cold geode
forest coral
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Well my experience on assassination is like

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I have to be main tank and kite the horde and boss on a merry go around loop so another players can deal with elites/ res downed party

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but of the 3 gauntlet assassinations ive done, usually the boss gets obliterated since 2 or more players specced for massive damage bursts

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like the boss is actually the easy part amongst all the mess

spice veldt
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i had a nice hishock chasm terminus run but two players got jumped by dogs right from the door at the finale and we got fucked

forest coral
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sounds about right

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this was only low intense but it sums it up pretty well how fast things go to shit lol

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and yeah deflector actually saved the run here

magic burrow
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The Damnation director can go absolutely insane. Beast of Nurgle appears and the director goes "oh here have a horde also and a couple of muties and dogs and hey lets have a random squad of shooters show up also while were at it. Have fun. By the way, second horde coming right up."

cold geode
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melkbux time

feral verge
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the rare 2 t4

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wondering if i should get it

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and turn it into a fire sword meme

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ehh, i think i will

strange canyon
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ooh that's hot

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this worth buying? idk how useful the blessings are

feral verge
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cuz i encountered one today

strange canyon
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not me

feral verge
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oops

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i mean warp nexus

strange canyon
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lol

feral verge
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that is a good staff

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worth it

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keep warp nexus, get rid of terrifying barrage for warp flurry

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get rid of carapace damage for crit rate

strange canyon
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figure numbers could be better but ty for input

feral verge
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the only thing that staff is missing is 76 burn

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76 burn gives you an extra stack of fire

forest coral
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since they can delete most of the elite swarm before they even close the distance

spice veldt
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makes me sad when I have to run over to a flamer to beat their asses since they're at the perfect distance where BB is marginally slower than running over to whack them

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instead of whipping out a peril glock and going blam

forest coral
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Surge is actually great for this mode in good team

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but trauma will be better for quickjoin

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Been hitting dumb numbers for damage, like 500k+ on hi int

spice veldt
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the addition of the illisi made me start doing big damage consistently

forest coral
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ye

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illisi has that flexibility to it to adapt to multi horde easily and become heavy sword/ pseudo power sword

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deimos with enough practice will take out any elite in a pinch whilst still having the flexibility of a rapier

void mural
# feral verge

Huh, would that actually be worth it with wildfire? I presume you're swapping executioner for blazing spirit?

lunar hollow
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siblings, do i buy from melk?

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the mobility is rather sad i will admit

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but god DAYUMN those perks

cold geode
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id get it just to pull the rampage

cyan notch
vale viper
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Is ascending blaze the best talent in that tier now?

forest coral
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Its as useful as kb in a different way

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Its amazing to have if ur confident your team can reliably deal with crushers and other armored units/ specialists

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otherwise KB is a safer choice for flexibility

olive ember
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but yeah its pretty aids

olive ember
cyan notch
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no

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those pause specials and hordes for x amount of time

olive ember
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huh well thats interesting

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wonder how much of that is what actually contributes to the spike in difficulty from malice to heresy

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and how much is just stat increase of enemies

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also yeah

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brought a deimos into damnation

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can't use that fucking weapon

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I legit perform better with an obscurus than an illisi tho

forest coral
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derp

olive ember
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so at this point Idk whats wrong with me

forest coral
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hear me out with deimos

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its reaally good once u practice the lead up into heavy thrust

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it compliments horde control/ clear staves very well

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can 1v1 bosses that arent bon bon

feral verge
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@near wyvern look what i got

forest coral
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and it has high mob

olive ember
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thats cool n all

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but when theres poxwalkers everywhere around me

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I need horde clear

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kek

feral verge
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illisi

forest coral
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thats what ur staff is for

olive ember
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eh

forest coral
olive ember
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obscurus tho

clever lynx
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do you guys just chain heavies for Illisi horde clear?

olive ember
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it got horde clear and single target

forest coral
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obscurus is kinda outclassed

olive ember
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10/10

forest coral
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by either illisi or deimos in different aspects

olive ember
olive ember
forest coral
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jack of all trades, master of non situation

olive ember
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but yeah

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idk why I legit am better with the obscurus than the illisi

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idk if its cuz I get too aggressive with the illisi or what not but

forest coral
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probably used to it

olive ember
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maybe

forest coral
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I am advocate of git gud with deimos

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i keep reposting this stuff but i stand by that thingo

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if i claim something is good imma back it up

tall temple
kind jay
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i do special heavy into light using bloodthirsty

hybrid glade
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I'm really enjoying the deimos

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Closest I've felt to using a spear in darktide

forest coral
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Yeah

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It’s why I love it so much

devout moon
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Anyone know if Warp Absorption works with the flame staff?

forest coral
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Got everything I want, good mobility, high damage, thrusting range, huge elite and boss dam

forest coral
ruby plover
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perhaps...

forest coral
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Good luck

hybrid solstice
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Good for rubbing

ruby plover
#

love a bit of rubbing

forest coral
#

Good ol rub

fringe garden
#

Man, I wish they would change the damage curve on soul blaze. Lower the higher end and raise the damage of the initial few stacks or something.

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It would make blazing spirit and wildfire combos much more impactful

hybrid glade
forest coral
#

we share same builds

obsidian creek
#

dafuq is wildfire

spice veldt
#

the new feat that replaced Kinetic Overload (middle lvl25 feat that's between Warp Battery and Kinetic Flayer)

feral verge
#

reporting back on this

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its pointless

#

illisi kills everything

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so the fire doesnt really proc

#

shit just dies

twilit flicker
#

Think of it this way, anyone who doesn't die wins the prize of getting set on fire!

feral verge
#

this is my purga build, so....

#

going back to ol' reliable

cyan notch
feral verge
#

its not for hordeclear

gilded viper
#

two low in t5

feral verge
#

i use the sword to rapidly gain peril for damage, and rapidly drain peril for toughness

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its a really useful setup

twilit flicker
cyan notch
#

id personally just use a deimos

obsidian creek
#

so, soulblaze seems kinda pathetic, am i missing something?

gilded viper
#

that fair

twilit flicker
#

Nope, it is pathetic

obsidian creek
#

k

twilit flicker
#

Till you get high stacks, looks pretty though

gilded viper
#

just getting tied of quickmatching into low int, feel like im just running the whole game as there nothing happening

feral verge
#

and the special lets me one shot most things

cyan notch
#

well thats most certainly a bug anyway

feral verge
#

without getting stuck in it

cyan notch
#

wouldnt count on it being like that for too long

feral verge
#

i do about 75% of mutie hp in one swing

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yeah ik, that's why i have a few deimos' ready to go

#

if this thing gets nerfed into the ground

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i am trying to build a deimos version of this sword

#

exorcist + unstable

obsidian creek
feral verge
#

i'd change flak for maniac tho

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and i'd want extremely low warp resist

hybrid solstice
#

for deimos? Why?

feral verge
#

for use with unstable power

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and warp unleashed

cyan notch
#

its good for all force swords

feral verge
#

and quietitude

obsidian creek
#

you want LOW warp res?

#

explain

feral verge
#

i just did above

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means FAST peril gain

hybrid solstice
#

oh okay, illisi is the only one of the force swords you can rub over and over which is why i ask

feral verge
#

high peril means more damage from warp unleashed and unstable power

obsidian creek
#

ahhh

hybrid solstice
#

The others have to have their special attack expended before you can rub again

cyan notch
#

u can qq the others too

plush glacier
#

isn't unstable power bad? 4% power seems pretty weak

feral verge
#

no

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it stacks

hybrid solstice
#

Oh thats true

plush glacier
#

oh

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bad tooltip then

cyan notch
#

thats how people did it before the new fs

plush glacier
#

how many stacks?

feral verge
#

at max stacks t4 unstable pwoer is 20% more power

#

4 stacks

plush glacier
#

oh ok

#

not bad then

hybrid solstice
#

it is a bad tooltip

#

For sure

twilit flicker
#

Is that power shared onto your ranged weapon?

plush glacier
#

I still prefer slaughterer

feral verge
#

with unstable power + warp unleahsed + 6 warp charges you get 69% more damage (funny sex number but im not kidding)

hybrid solstice
#

You can have both if you dont want exorcist

kind jay
#

remember the old saying: rub your illussy to make it real juicy

spice veldt
hybrid solstice
#

I hear deimos' stab attacks do insane damage

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like more than the special attack

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or something

feral verge
#

light and then heavy has higher DPS than the special

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and you dont leave yourself open

hybrid solstice
#

Right yeah

#

I'd be inclined to use deimos but that seems like it will get nerfed

kind jay
#

nah deimos is nowhere near busted

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it's very strong for what it was designed for

hybrid solstice
#

having normals do more damage than the special seems unintended though

kind jay
#

and average everywhere else

spice veldt
#

normals doing more damage is prob intended

hybrid solstice
#

really?

kind jay
#

considering the damage spread it's definitely intended

spice veldt
#

just that the special only deals extra damage against flak

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the obscurus' 3rd light also deals more damage than both the lights and sweeping heavies

feral verge
#

when i use deimos, i roll with this

hybrid solstice
#

this makes the sword sound like it has a dead special basically

spice veldt
#

yup

hybrid solstice
#

wow okay surely they arent going to leave it like that, one way or another

cyan notch
#

it has uses

spice veldt
#

eh the special still is situationally useful

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nuking flak enemies

#

the stagger shouldn't be underestimated either

shadow wigeon
#

Where does Deimos special do less than regular hits?

spice veldt
#

same reasons that you'd use the obscurus' special

hybrid solstice
cyan notch
#

people like to myopically disregard the special very quickly

kind jay
#

h2 outdamages the special

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and it's not even close

shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

they simply gave the stabs higher base damage

hybrid solstice
cyan notch
#

stab cant 1 shot maulers or 2 shot crushers or stun lock them

hybrid solstice
#

does the special do more damage than WU+ 6 WC brainburst

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this would be an irrelevant question if the game had more careers by now btw KEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

off the top of my head, I don't recall the obscurus' special doing more damage than brain burst

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just that it's faster and costs less peril

#

so it usually results in more DPS

cyan notch
#

depends on the enemy

hybrid solstice
#

i see

spice veldt
#

there's also the 200% flak damage bonus of the deimos/obscurus special

shadow wigeon
cyan notch
#

yea ur never gonna 1 shot maulers with bb or heavy stab

spice veldt
shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

even on the obscurus, normal attacks will outdamage the special on reapers for example (unless you hit the flak part of reapers with the special)

fierce spoke
#

What's the difference between the 3 force sword models?

shadow wigeon
#

Testing rihgt now, H2 hits for 450, special L1 hits for 1418

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How do you get H2 to hit for more than special?

primal radish
#

Any psykers attempt solo T5 runs? Im trying and not getting too far atm lol

cyan notch
#

if ur talking just raw numbers per hit then special probably does more im pretty sure

#

but i assume people are talking about dps

spice veldt
#

the big damage comes from the fact that the h2 can take full advantage of the weakspot multiplier

cyan notch
#

(but special never was for dps)

spice veldt
#

whereas the weakspot multiplier is neutered for the special

#

so the l1->h2 combo is competitive against the special even against flak

pearl lion
#

If you're used to the old one, just get the Illisi, it is very strong

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If you've played VT2 and you liked salty's Rapier, try that

ruby plover
#

illisi my beloved

olive ember
#

theres a good chance that the two new force swords are gonna get nerfed

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also the obscurus has better horde clear than the deimos but better single target burst than the illisi

#

so specifically against shit like crushers or to burst dps an assassination target before their shield comes up run the obscurus over teh illisi imo

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

spice veldt
#

they made the timing on initiating the 2nd heavy longer so this minor inconvenience to my muscle memory made me dislike it now

cyan notch
#

just get new muscles lol

spice veldt
#

very hard getting new muscles in these trying times

kind jay
#

become fat, wait for fat muscles to forget

#

it's foolproof

digital loom
feral verge
#

need that unstable power 4 so bad

digital loom
#

or any situation where you need a stun

#

but otherwise it should be poke poke block

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or some variant

olive ember
# cyan notch

I got a slaughterer deimos and yeah can't use that shit ngl

forest coral
#

Poketide

#

uwu

digital loom
#

i was using an achlys axe before deimos so its like an achlys with a better special

forest coral
#

derpy practice more when

olive ember
#

Good question

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why practice when obscurus does what I need it do

#

which is one shot crushers and maulers

forest coral
#

try out and see if things suit ur style

#

If it doesn’t it’s fine

olive ember
#

I'll wait for new balance changes to come out before putting more time into the deimos

forest coral
#

then again, I loved spear weapons so I’m probably biased toward deimo

olive ember
#

in the mean time I gotta savor the illisi while it lasts

#

Oh no I like spear weapons

#

just not the deimos

#

XD

forest coral
#

I don’t know if they’ll nerf anything that much

#

Just look at state of flamer and several vet feats

olive ember
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

forest coral
#

Most I can see is deflector being innate getting removed

olive ember
#

I mean flamer they are "reworking"

#

but yeah

forest coral
#

since that is a “bug”

cyan notch
olive ember
#

shit todays a thursday not a friday

#

fml I gotta go to class tmrw

cyan notch
#

it absolutely is a bug

kind jay
cyan notch
#

the number of people who dont even like deflector but suddenly want it for free is insane

#

yeah guys it would be cool if i got slaughterer inbuilt into my fs that would pretty cool

#

yknow cuz its a sword and its meant for killing

olive ember
#

I mean

#

I like deflector

#

and I want it for free kek

#

Give me free deflector and then make deflector blessing do something cool and different

#

like ranged block on revive!

kind jay
#

change mind in motion to deflector and have it work on all weapons

olive ember
#

I mean it would be shit cuz it’s going up against peril blocking

forest coral
#

Whilst I don’t wanna lose deflector, I’d rather have a damage blessing over it

cyan notch
#

thats fine its a tradeoff

olive ember
#

Deflector without peril blocking legit blocks like 2 shots from my experience in CBT

kind jay
#

can give it peril block just for ranged

olive ember
#

And that 2 shots is enough to make kinetic shield obsolete

#

For the most part

#

But yeah idk the trade off kinda shit imo

#

Maybe idk

cyan notch
#

yea that aint gon work

olive ember
#

I’d say i doubt it’s happening but

#

Hey who knows they reworked KO a mostly useless perk into wildfire, another mostly useless perk

cyan notch
#

its about spreading fire

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and wildfire spreads better than ko

olive ember
#

For AB stacks?

cyan notch
#

no i mean the feat

olive ember
#

Yeah spread dot to more enemies for more AB stack gen

#

Wildfire being better than KO is arguable tbh imo

#

Cuz KO atleast had the rly rly niche use of transferring lots of burn stacks to elites quickly

#

Wildfire apparently has a hidden cap of 4 stacks

#

Meaning it won’t transfer stacks to enemies with 4+ dot stacks

#

Making it almost completely useless except for trauma blazing spirit builds

manic halo
#

Siblings Ive done it. Surely the blunts will accept me now that im dripped out of my mind???

desert quartz
#

what was your last penance?

cyan notch
#

theyre both pretty mid but wildfire does have its uses for spreading fire (wrack and ruin/blazing spirit)

#

much more usable than KO

olive ember
#

🤔 usable yes but

#

How much more use is spreading up to 4 stacks to poxwalkers

cyan notch
#

more stacks easier stacks

olive ember
#

Compared to 4 stacks to an elite whenever you over capped a charge which with a purge build meant you could probably quickly put 4 or 8 stacks on a nearby elite as well as purge stacks

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🤔 actually now that I think about it

cyan notch
#

yea cuz with purg u have an easy way to apply and spread burn

olive ember
#

All they had to do was change KO to apply stacks whenever you gained a charge instead of whenever you overcapped charges

cyan notch
#

but with wildfire you can do that decently without purg

olive ember
#

I mean with wildfire you would only want to do it without purge Tbf

#

Cuz funny hidden limit to stacks

cyan notch
#

my point was just wildfire is much more useful to many builds instead of ko

olive ember
#

I guess

shadow wigeon
olive ember
#

It went from a shitty side option for only purge to a shitty side option for blazing spirit

shadow wigeon
#

Wildfire + Run n Gun Purg? Let's goo

cyan notch
olive ember
#

But eh maybe they’ll rework it again kek

cyan notch
#

it works for wrack and ruin too

sonic coral
#

what's the core purg feat meta now?

olive ember
#

Or just 1/1/1/1/1/2

#

Or even 2/1/1/1/1/2

sonic coral
#

Interesting

olive ember
#

🤔

#

I mean Quietitude is safest, warp absorb is burst, essence harvest for the funny essence harvest on purge build

hybrid solstice
cyan notch
#

ive been trying aura with kb with purg

#

works pretty good

#

especially for shock troops

shadow wigeon
olive ember
#

On purge battery ez

#

AB more than makes up for flayer

cyan notch
olive ember
#

6 stack burn on AB F is way more impactful as well

manic halo
shadow wigeon
manic halo
#

only managed to get it because i had bots

#

damn vets man

desert quartz
shadow wigeon
desert quartz
#

it's proven to be a real pain

#

pick n' mix.

manic halo
#

Its terriabblleee

#

yep

desert quartz
#

did you do it in a pug or was it with a premade group?

manic halo
#

all alone

desert quartz
#

just wondering if i should keep trying with randoms

#

or try to get a group idk

#

the best approach

olive ember
#

Using KB with purge 🤔 I mean it works

manic halo
#

I just went into lobbies that I knew would be empty

#

so I could get boys

#

boys

#

bots

olive ember
#

Without flayer? That means stack gen is only from BB

shadow wigeon
manic halo
#

Get a group honestly

olive ember
#

Def not my jam but it’s a thing

manic halo
#

yeah the game just gave it to me. I dropped into the match and 5 gunners were just next to each other. Which I had never seen before

desert quartz
cyan notch
desert quartz
#

i'll most likely end up doing that. shouldnt be too difficult with the shock modifiers

manic halo
#

whats funny is I just got it on a normal match with no modifiers

desert quartz
#

ive spent an ungodly amount of time trying to get this penance and i keep giving up, uninstalling, then coming back like a month later

pearl lion
#

I got it on the coolant replacement in the manufactorum

desert quartz
#

like, i wanna get it done but it's just so irritating.

pearl lion
#

The bit before the final area where you go down the multiple levels

#

The last area before the elevator had a whole bunch of gunners and a couple of specials

robust relic
#

pic'n'mix - I did in a pug, go to comms/plex on high intensity, get to the bit where you have to do the interrogation,go up on the platform to the right above the health station, when the lights go out 5ish shotgunners/gunners/flamers/whatever will spawn in the door, pop them

pearl lion
#

I was ahead of my team so I just popped them

#

Helps to have warp resistance talent and the fast BB talent too

manic halo
#

Its fucking horraible

#

I just got lucky man

#

No matter what I would get 4 only

#

or a vet would steal my shit

desert quartz
#

that's my problem

#

i can't tell you how many times i get 4/5 specials

#

and that 5th one is never around

pearl lion
#

Also have a vet hit their special to mark them helps, but at the same time if thats happening chances are they're gonna nab your kills

manic halo
#

i would try to mark it so i could find them

#

but everyone would just focus them done

desert quartz
#

every pug lobby has at least one vet, usually two

robust relic
#

with comms plex vets don't tend to kill them as fast because they are tied up with a huge horde and they are back by the interrogator not where you are seeing them come in the door

manic halo
#

yeeah its a rough life

spice veldt
#

i got my pick n mix when bio optic was up, but the vet was also on the other side of the room

desert quartz
#

that was recommended before and i ended up almost getting it there

#

will try again soon.

cyan notch
#

you can camp their spawn in commsplex

desert quartz
#

i just didnt know exactly where they spawned from

#

since im usually playing the shock events with hi intensity

#

so theres quite a lot of action

cyan notch
#

you are pretty safe there hordes and specials leave u alone 90% of the time

robust relic
manic halo
#

yeah and that talent that makes you BB really quickly is obviously a must

#

no way could I have gotten it

desert quartz
#

did you use any curios that increase combat ability regen?

manic halo
#

I ended up also picking the talent that reduces ranged damage scaling with peril so i could just ignore shots

cyan notch
#

they spawn at the sides and if you are near their spawn they kinda just afk

desert quartz
#

they seem to make little to no difference

#

to me, at least

pearl lion
#

Peril resist is good too

#

More BBs before you need to quell

spice veldt
#

4% combat regen is only 1.2 seconds, so it's generally not that worth it

cyan notch
#

and thats maxed on all3

spice veldt
#

not totally useless, but I would prefer other perks

desert quartz
#

just making sure i wasnt missing out

spice veldt
#

unless you wanted maximum uptime on your kinetic barrage and whatnot

robust relic
#

I dont remember what curios I had on, but I tailored all my feats to BB easy as possible

desert quartz
#

on making it easier

#

so comms plex

#

alright

#

thats what ill keep trying on. whenever its around again

robust relic
#

comms plex is the way to go if you want to pug, alternately get a full group and get them to gather up a bunch, not sure it's actually easier but

desert quartz
#

i just wish BB targeted specials elites by default instead of focusing on trash enemies when there's a horde

#

would make things less of a pain

pearl lion
#

Yeah the end of the ammo run mission you could have an oggy put down their shield at the bridge to extraction etc

#

But thats if you have people willing to help\

robust relic
pearl lion
#

Also its usually ragers that turn up and you cant 1 shot BB them

spice veldt
#

being able to target elites/specials within or beyond a horde would be a bit much

#

elites and specials are usually already a bit taller than commons

pearl lion
#

Oh yeah also

desert quartz
#

i suppose, but it's not like psyker has much going for it relative to any of the other classes

pearl lion
#

Do a regular brain burst THEN pop your ult

spice veldt
#

maybe if you said that before the patch

#

even then, our major weakness is just the lack of a single-target burst DPS force staff

#

it's just a weapon issue

pearl lion
#

The timer starts after your first BB finishes, so save the speedy BBs for once you've done your first

desert quartz
#

alright, will do

spice veldt
#

brain burst is a major utility in and of itself

desert quartz
#

i tend to get over zealous sometimes and use it too early

cyan notch
pearl lion
#

Ah OK

wheat olive
#

Hello, trying to understand this perk. Does that mean for every attack during the first charge of the staff, the 2nd charge charges 4% faster (up to 20%)?

#

So in an ideal situation with lots of enemies I've attacked, the 2nd time I charge it it charges 20% faster than the first time?

unkempt juniper
spice veldt
#

performing secondaries in a row will cause subsequent secondaries to charge faster, with the requirement that you must hold RMB and not swap to any other weapon or animation in the process

shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

ulting during your charges will not drop your flurry stacks, but entering the suicide animation will drop them

shadow wigeon
#

@wheat olive Rank 1 of that blessing isn't a huge change in power, but it's something.

wheat olive
#

ahhh interesting. Seems like it's a good blessing then right, at least at higher levels?

digital loom
#

psykinetic aura worthwhile?

spice veldt
digital loom
#

i run it all the time but i have been looking at lacerations lately

rocky cedar
#

Aura is poggers

wheat olive
#

Awesome, thanks everyone!

digital loom
#

this is what i usually run with focused channeling/rending shockwave trauma and a deimos with deflector, 1 stam 2 health curio

spice veldt
#

lacerations only affects enemies that aren't already killed in two brainbursts or less (aka Crushers and bosses), so I find it to be too situational for my tastes; or if you can trust your teammates to follow up on your initial brain burst

digital loom
#

i seem to go down more often missing third health curio but i think its because si'm not using deflector as much as i should be

strange swallow
#

How should one deal with close range poxbursters if you are rocking a force sword and staff? Force sword push does nothing to them

digital loom
#

which staff

rocky cedar
#

If you're running Deimos just use those sweet sweet dodges

spice veldt
#

keep in mind that the strength of your pushes depends on the stamina consumed

digital loom
#

which staff

spice veldt
#

pushing at zero stamina will not affect them

strange swallow
#

I suppose any staff but surge is what I am thinking

digital loom
#

just zap them

strange swallow
#

purg does not seem to do anything when you right click

spice veldt
#

if nothing else, there's the push-attack of the force sword

digital loom
#

zap with surge, primary fire with purg, trauma just blows them up, and voidstrike i guess a low level charge

spice veldt
#

RMB of the purg doesn't have much stagger; it's the LMB that has the stagger

digital loom
#

run and gun on purg is fun

spice veldt
#

LMB is for stagger; RMB is for soulblaze application and more damage

rocky cedar
#

Push should absolutely work on them

digital loom
#

i dont bother pushing anymore

#

i just smack them with whatever

rocky cedar
#

If it doesn't it's because your team mate just shot it probably

digital loom
#

if it does enough stagger it can push them, doesnt have to be a push

spice veldt
#

pushing is reliable unless my teammates shoot them, so I default to it if they're too close for me to blow it up with my trauma

digital loom
#

just gotta wait till they're mid jump

strange swallow
#

Hm; I have not had any lock with the force sword push

#

dodge yes

digital loom
#

dont bother with that, too slow

#

just use your staff

spice veldt
#

just make sure to push with 1 bar of stamina or more

cyan portal
#

With fs you push them with the first boop, not the second push.

digital loom
#

even the staff melee can stagger pox walkers

#

its got a good range too

strange swallow
#

oh, I forgot about staff melee

#

good call

spice veldt
#

with the caveat that it has a slow windup

#

really only a last resort for if you have no stamina and you must use it

cyan portal
#

You need to get used to leaving it a bit later than feels comfortable though.

clear heath
digital loom
#

i just wanted to make monstrosities faster thats all

#

25% more damage from 3 other people is more damage than i can do myself

#

unless they are running pepega builds in which case we have bigger problems

cyan portal
#

Best way to learn to deal with pox bursters is to get the creature spawner mod and practice in the meat grinder.

spice veldt
#

lacerations is certainly the way for that if you want to spec into that

clear heath
#

Yeah it'll be good for monstrosities
I personally wouldn't give up aura for it but it's your call

digital loom
#

i just use aura because giving specials faster can help in a hectic situation

strange swallow
spice veldt
#

there's also dodge-sliding if you want to get some extra mileage out of your dodge

shadow wigeon
#

Does lacerations affect assassin boss shield damage?

spice veldt
#

though psykers have the same dodge interval as zealots, so we can spam dodge pretty quickly

digital loom
#

and i use kinetic flayer because its easier to maintain stacks when you're tits deep in horde

#

i use trauma for horde clear, deimos for cleanup (as i do with achlys) as well as dueling

#

i've gotten a lot better at sitting in the edge of exploding

#

and thats why i dont run kinetic deflector

#

since i am critical all the time anyway

#

i just run block efficiency and a stam curio

#

probably dont need the stam curio

desert quartz
#

i can't decide if kinetic flayer is better than warp battery

digital loom
#

since i'm at like... 63% efficiency

desert quartz
#

though it probably is

digital loom
#

depends if you staff main

#

if you staff main probably because you arent forced to brainburst every 30 seconds

spice veldt
#

with trauma, I don't find myself brain bursting frequently, so taking communion/flayer is pretty much mandatory to avoid having to brainburst a random ass enemy

digital loom
#

unless purg

#

purg gets its own thing

#

still looking for a trauma i can put crit blaze on

sonic coral
#

this is what I run with trauma

#

the bludgeoner

cyan notch
#

same

sonic coral
#

all damage, all make enemy go away, very little in the way of clever outside of the BB

#

I like illisi with it since it pairs well with quell and KD

forest coral
#

Basically the same

sonic coral
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but, very flexible and "fast" in a way that most psyker builds aren't - I keep up with everyone easily whereas even with purg I often find myself in a doldrum having to prep the next tactic

forest coral
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I just run communion out of sheer laziness

sonic coral
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psykinetic's aura is wonderful for when the vet is a lazy or incompetent piece of shit and I'm doing their job for them with BB

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combined with KB of course

kindred sand
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Is trust a good blessing for combat axe mkV?

forest coral
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Not really since it only benefits the heavy attack

spice veldt
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brutal momentum is usually required for combat axes, so that means giving up headtaker/decimator

forest coral
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Ur better off with brutal momentum+ headtaker/ deci

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Damn ye for typing faster

spice veldt
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smh

spice veldt
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fastest shot in the west

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shot in the middle of your sentence

kindred sand
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XD Ty guys

orchid shadow
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700 hours later, finally get Out with a Bang

ember hornet
lunar hollow
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get 364 force sword
upgrade it twice
think its an illisi
its a fucking obscurus

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HOW

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AM

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I

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THIS

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DUMB

ember hornet
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skissue

lunar hollow
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im brain damaged

ember hornet
lunar hollow
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holy shitr

ember hornet
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only wasted 300 plasteel though

forest coral
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What playing psyker does to a mf

lunar hollow
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i just had to play (and carry) as psyker while deaf cuz my headset died

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now my fucking brain is shutting off

forest coral
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No no

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Your brain is simply becoming

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Incomprehensible

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incomparable

kindred sand
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buzz...buzz...buzz....

spark oxide
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Not bad for a mission I joined 85% of the way through completion KEKW_ogryn

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Can't wait to consecrate or refine literally 2 items and be out again

obsidian creek
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is the issislisli special bugged?

kindred sand
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Is t4 trnasfer peril good for trauma staff?

obsidian creek
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it's def bugged

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rip

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that sucks

forest coral
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bugged as in how you can spam the specials for fast peril?

spice veldt
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maybe referring to how it doesn't proc warp absorption

sonic coral
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I feel like if you have brutal momentum, and even if you don't, there's almost zero reason to take it over decimator. The only reason would be that the stacks stick around if you have to block/push/transition with BM, but deci the stacks max out basically instantly so...

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like yea, bummer you lost them, you'll have them back literally the second you touch the horde

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likewise with big dudes, if you're gonna be smacking them more than a couple times you'll have your deci stacks

cyan notch
spice veldt
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since the secondary can not hit headshots (minus Kinetic Flayer proccing off of it)

obsidian creek
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bugged as in

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it doesn't operate like the other two force swords

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it doesn't stick and fully deal it's damage

cyan notch
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wat

spice veldt
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doesn't seem like a bug

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seems like it's intended to function as power sword's special

vagrant frigate
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yeah its intended

obsidian creek
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but the other two force swords dont?

vagrant frigate
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the other two are single target

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thats the point

spice veldt
vagrant frigate
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  • you dont charge deimos anyways lol
spice veldt
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they also gave it a similar cleave distribution as the power sword's special

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so it's evidently intended to have the same properties as the power sword's special, including the fact that it doesn't stick

obsidian creek
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huh

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interesting

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ty 🙂

spice veldt
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certainly weird that it's different from the other two though

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there's a wide gap between it sticking and then it cleaving through every motherfucker

obsidian creek
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coming from the other two it feels bugged, is all

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sonic coral
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I sort of accidentally built this

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I don't really know if I want to actually use it

spice veldt
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prolly not

obsidian creek
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soul blaze sucks