#psyker-class

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quasi pier
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I really like kinetic barrage with purg

snow scaffold
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The only ones that will constantly spam their ability is the veteran if they're smarter at ammo management

quasi pier
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It helps with the ranged and special/ ogryn aspect you are lacking

chrome arch
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LMAO

quasi pier
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And it upkeeps stacks as well

chrome arch
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Reminded me of 'psyker' player with vet portrait frame

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Even on AB i tend to save for a) abt to blow up or b) thick chaos ogryn group

snow scaffold
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AB is great to have as I've used it to save a lot of teammates when they're surrounded and downed

chrome arch
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Yesh but you still need stam to pick them up

forest coral
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aint no better feeling then shouting once and waiting entire wave of gunners vanish

quasi pier
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Purg can do that on its own though really

chrome arch
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Ye

quasi pier
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Which is why I tend toward kb

forest coral
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yes

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but ab can do it through walls

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and the reach is as far as your shout cone reaches

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buuut

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for quickjoin scenarios

chrome arch
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KB is cool but I probably would want AB + lacerations to rid of communion

forest coral
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kb is definitely safer pick

quasi pier
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I run the cooldown on elite kill

snow scaffold
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But AB is better for chaotic situations

quasi pier
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Lacerations is in a tough place where it feels like it only makes a difference with monstrosities

chrome arch
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Lacerations is good for Beast of Nurgle

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Or when you meet 2 back to back

rocky cedar
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Lacerations lets you hit better Crusher and Reaper BPs no?

quasi pier
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And I used to run lacerations for sure on assassination missions, but because of the damage gating it doesn't really help there either

rocky cedar
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Or does it no longer do that with warp unleashed buff?

snow scaffold
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Does purgatus kind of do similar damage to the unyields as a flamer?

quasi pier
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Yea it can but correct with warp unleashed it's not necessary if you are keeping stacks up

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For 2 bb crushers

forest coral
safe crystal
quasi pier
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And zealot ult ability

forest coral
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yep

rocky cedar
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Oh well I guess it lets you hit BPs without worrying about your peril level too much 🤷‍♂️

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But the team boss DPS is definitely nice

quasi pier
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I think max dps for psyker vs monstrosities is kb bb alternated with purg staff stacks

rocky cedar
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It's just that bosses currently aren't terribly threatening

snow scaffold
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They can be in some maps + elites and/or hordes

safe crystal
forest coral
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I think if you manage to get plagryn aggro, head shanking with deimos also does very juiced damage

quasi pier
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Oh that's good to know

quasi pier
safe crystal
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Yes, because KB lasts for way shorter time than the boss lives.

quasi pier
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But while kb is up

safe crystal
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Hm, lemme test real quick

quasi pier
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Because no reason not to do both if it's better

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But if just hitting with trauma is better then no point in putting extra wear on my q button

safe crystal
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They do about the same DPS while KB is up, but my trauma doesnt have unyielding damage on it

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I guess if the monstrosity is far away, just KB BB it down, and switch to trauma when it gets closer

quasi pier
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If it's that close you probably lose some small amount of dps just switching to brainburst and back lol, better to just keep the staff out probably

dry oar
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I find myself on the front lines with psyker a lot. I think it's because I mained zealot for too long

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Build my 6 warp stacks then spam force sword heavy attacks

forest coral
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Well, psyker melee is really good too

wet belfry
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I dont think youre playing psyker wrong by staying in melee

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Id argue its preferable to stay in melee in most cases as psyker rather then staying ranged and using the staff.

steel flame
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Psyker as a class is nice because you can flex into both melee and ranged really well. All of his staves already facilitate melee combat so leaning into that isn't too much of an issue for psyker

forest coral
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The only thing psyker lacks is huge damage burst in short window

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And by that I mean like zealot ult crit window

steel flame
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Diemos shredder cough

forest coral
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Vet magdump during volley etc

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But does that actually do it better than other classes though

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and I feel that’s more of autopistol being goated than a class thing

steel flame
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Bb covers shredders weaknesses so with laceration you can blow through stuff the shredder struggles with like ogryns, and maulers

forest coral
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Hmm that’s probably the one exception I guess

cyan notch
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maulers kinda die to shredder

forest coral
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Everything except crushers

steel flame
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I agree it's great on every class but I feel like I more value from it as Psyker than I do as vet or zealot since I have to stop and pull melee to take out ogryns or play around instead of just mowing them down with kb laceration

robust relic
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Siblings, which perk do I reroll (to flak I assume)? and better to push transfer to 4 or flurry to 4? thinking flurry...

forest coral
steel flame
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True

forest coral
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Vet with volley usually just ignores them

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And then greeds everything else

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Don’t get me wrong, autogunnwe psyker is strong af

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But we are the ones who gotta pull something else to deal with the fat bois

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And we don’t have ranged invincibility of vet or flexibility/ crit spike of zealot charge

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Also keep in mind we literally have autopistol to do that. Most other guns don’t even come close in psyker kit

forest coral
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Also flurry to iv, as long as you have transf there, you can fire much more. The tier isn’t as important

robust relic
forest coral
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This one not too sure about

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If it was up to me I’d probably do weakspot since void and trauma have pretty bad base crit rate

robust relic
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Hrm, will think about that one then, harder call, thanks for the advice

safe crystal
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Those perks are both terrible on voidstrike. Weak spot damage increases the damage by 10 on a max damage roll, and crits are too unreliable Sitgryn

idle bay
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For your consideration, siblings! A Band-Aid fix for crafting.

safe crystal
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At least flak will reach the pothead breakpoint

still hearth
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Crit is actually better imo

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Even if they're both bad

safe crystal
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I would say crit is better, yes. Its at least a decent increase to damage instead of just 10

still hearth
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At least crit sometimes adds decent damage

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Ye

feral topaz
idle bay
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I can't offer them such a radical options, only some compromise that fits that design

feral topaz
idle bay
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And Curios of Zealot are purple...

feral topaz
idle bay
feral topaz
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but yeah, zealot is my least played char

idle bay
# feral topaz but yeah, zealot is my least played char

I'm mostly play on Psyker for that grim-dark power fantasy space magic badassery.
I play on Ogryn for maximum chill, because on Ogryn you can do really stupid things and sttill win.
Veteran is more like a boring chore. But at least with more shooting.
And Zealot - even more boring chore than vet for me. I can't connect with this class regualr playstyles at all and play Zelot like i play Vet - by shooting a lot and dodging with gun in melee 🙂 Unless there is a good moment for Power Sword /TH

feral topaz
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I play vet mostly because most vets can't be arsed to kill shooters

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I play Ogryn because its fun

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I play psyker because I can do shit the other 2 can't

icy hare
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which of these purgs is better? first one's perks seem like a bit of a brick, second one's blessings seem a bit pants

feral topaz
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and I play shouty because...I really like the voice actor

potent echo
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How the gear economy works now is that it punishes players for trying all classes, which is really strange

feral topaz
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thats about it

idle bay
feral topaz
potent echo
feral topaz
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It doesn't have to be that way, their previous games have plenty of examples how it doesnt have to be this hostile

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But they do this on purpose

potent echo
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Live service baybee

idle bay
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Every game should be a good balance of Fun and Frustration.
Missions part of the game is nearly PERFECT balance of Fun and Frustration with different kinds of FUN distributed over mission tiers and conditions.
Everything Outside missions are made EXLUSIVLEY from FRUSTRATION. And this is bad!

potent echo
still hearth
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Because Warp Flurry + Nexus is probably the BiS blessings

potent echo
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Warp nexus really makes a difference

still hearth
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I think crit damage will add

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Less than 1 damage

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Which is really sad but what can you do

potent echo
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Imagine rerolling perks

still hearth
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Swap Stamina to crit chance or Unyielding damage

icy hare
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ok cool cheers

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yeah those perks on the left one are super pants, shame

still hearth
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But yeah Purg doesn't really need perks. Unyielding is the best imo just because they have the most HP, crit is decent but 5% chance compared to Nexus isn't worth bothering over.

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You might get a BP of like a tic or two if you flame specific amounts

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But most of the time if you're Purging you'll just flame until things are dead or dying.

feral topaz
idle bay
steel egret
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I just want surge on voidstaff.

idle bay
feral topaz
feral topaz
idle bay
feral topaz
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and that farming was different in one way

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you had to grind the same mission over and over again to get a ridiculous amount of gold, to buy end gear armor/weapon sets

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so the price is known and the result is obvious just how long it takes you to get there depended on how much you farmed

idle bay
feral topaz
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Here, theres no guarrantee that for x amount of currency I get y product

feral topaz
idle bay
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It happends when you have an excess of energy and nothing good to spend it on.

feral topaz
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;-;

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I'd mind less, if it was measurable progress

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but its not

idle bay
steel egret
idle bay
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That double-shot sound though....

steel egret
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And machine gun void staff

idle bay
steel egret
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Just rebind buttons to mouse

quasi pier
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I'm "hoping" they are just afraid to unleash rng mitigation right now because they are behind on the content roll out and trying to keep people from getting bored

idle bay
feral topaz
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...I'm getting bored because I can't test loadouts as I'd like

still hearth
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People have been bored of the RNG for ages now

quasi pier
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You're still playing though, so from their pov kind of a win

still hearth
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The only reason people still play is because the gameplay is fun

feral topaz
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I play because of friends and the loop being fun

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I just pretend the rest doesnt exist

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thats not a win

quasi pier
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I know that, but not convinced someone calling shots at fs knows that

idle bay
sour bison
steel egret
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I mean I tries Wildfire AB with illisi but I guess it requires bloodthirsty or something else.

idle bay
still hearth
steel egret
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Big surprise

still hearth
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And that's the reason why stats were initially not even shown outside of bars.

quasi pier
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What a fucking tool

still hearth
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Like if you hate optimizing

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Just don't make a game

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Where you can optimize?

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There's tons of ways to do that

steel egret
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I wonder if he worked on Krater

quasi pier
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People are going to do it regardless, so he's just deciding to punish them for it

feral topaz
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basically

idle bay
idle bay
steel egret
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With anticipation

quasi pier
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Also how arrogant to think that people should only enjoy a game the way you think they should, just because you helped make it

idle bay
steel egret
still hearth
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It's not something I can confirm since I just saw someone mention it before

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But it makes sense

steel egret
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I pre-ordered that

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Fatshark launched it and put out one patch

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Added dlc, patch

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Thats all it ever got

quasi pier
steel egret
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And that dlc was actually pre-order bonus.

still hearth
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Well they're slowly giving us more control

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But its half-measures constantly

quasi pier
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I want more maps and classes more than anything right now, but I hope some effort goes into rehauling the blessings entirely.

steel egret
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You get regurgitated stuff they failed to add game before launch and recolored clothing to cash shop

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Enjoy

idle bay
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I'm stil very surprised how they massively buffed Psyker, after consistently nerfing class since beta. Why so sudden change of direction?

feral topaz
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How are they going to rehaul or balance stuff when locks exist?

quasi pier
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Like I want full control of my item perks and blessings also, but there isn't really anything fun about it.. just put power blessings on everything basically

feral topaz
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tell me how that won't piss off just about anyone

steel egret
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Cycle of active developement

idle bay
steel egret
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I mean

quasi pier
steel egret
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Rolling out fix and then rerolling it

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Is still less work than putting out something functional constantly

feral topaz
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This is the MAIN reason why so many people do not even like to speak of nerfs

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you spent all this time getting this very specific weapon, and now one patch fucks it all up

idle bay
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I do it other way around.
I have T4 Surgical locked on really sick Vraks MK III on my vet. I know that it's a absolutely unusable bad blessing..... but what if it get reasonable re-work ? 🙂

steel egret
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Spend 500h and not own certain blessing

feral topaz
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Of course you'd be happy, but that is not the issue

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I ask about the inevitable reverse scenario

quasi pier
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I'm not arguing for the continued locks, but just saying the locks wouldn't be as much of an issue if all the blessings were effective

feral topaz
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Sure

idle bay
steel egret
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Yeah give me that

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Terrifying barrage

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Yup

golden tartan
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Tbh with or without locks people will just get pissed.

steel egret
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Thats the one officer, one of many.

quasi pier
feral topaz
golden tartan
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Ur assuming people.need alogical reason to be pissed

feral topaz
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if I have the capacity to fix a weapon post nerf, I have no reason to be pissed that now I have to start the entire process from 0

steel egret
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Imagine if you could spend resources to build it as you wish

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That would lead to anarchy

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People would need to play way less

golden tartan
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Just be pissed

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Ez

feral topaz
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...

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nah, bad for my blood pressure

golden tartan
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People do it all the time

kind jay
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if i could build as i wish i would actually play way more

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like 10x more

honest frigate
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I want a rogue-like gamemode with end-game tier rewards

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Gonna keep dreaming

runic juniper
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Im just real sad that we have to swim through all this rng just to get anything close to what we want, only to have reds come out in a years time anyway

idle bay
honest frigate
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But as far as i know a new rarity was never announced to be coming?

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Which makes it sadder

golden tartan
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Solution. Remove all perks and blessings :D.

honest frigate
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I want 100% on stats

feral topaz
quasi pier
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Maybe the reds will unlock the blessings and perks and fatshark will say it was their plan all along

honest frigate
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Nah if reds ever come all they'll allow is the stats to be maxed out

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And maybe plus one more perk

runic juniper
golden tartan
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Tbh i think the issue also is that the blessings are kinda... boring. Apart from a handful. The meta ones are kinda just most optimal power boost.

quasi pier
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Yea I'm pretty sure the bars only going to 80% right now is a good sign

golden tartan
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Most blessings dont change how a weapon plays

steel egret
feral topaz
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the way I see it

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if t4 blessings are purple (exalted)

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and the highest is orange

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I think its only a matter of time before we see reds

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maybe with t5's

honest frigate
feral topaz
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who knows

golden tartan
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VT2 had rng reds to hell and back

runic juniper
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I'd at least like to tune modifier stats

steel egret
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What if you get it but it will degrade rng and you have to use rng amount of materials to maintain it?

idle bay
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We still yet to see Season Pass implemented. Inevitable thing for live service

honest frigate
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Fartshark is busy fixing the game

steel egret
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Sureee

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Busy prepping xbox launch

viral solstice
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season ass

quasi pier
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Man this whole talk is getting depressing

viral solstice
runic juniper
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Cant wait for them to monitize blessings

steel egret
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Blessing pack

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Xp buff and ordo buff for aquila

kind jay
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800 aquilas for t4 slaughter

runic juniper
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Theyre already account wide

steel egret
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chadogryn Enjoy

uneven drift
steel egret
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All my characters have voidstaff blessings now.

idle bay
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Mission cards - to add modifiers in private lobbies. Something like in Aliens: Fireteam Elite

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Surprise Mechanics Lootboxes

gleaming aspen
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Wait that was skill cards

feral topaz
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yup

steel egret
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Aquila spending milestone cosmetic unlocks

idle bay
steel egret
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Something people REALLY need

feral topaz
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Don't give them any funny ideas anymore than they're already probably thinking about

steel egret
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Captains lounge in morningstar

gleaming aspen
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Custodes skin at 4,000 dollars spent in game

feral topaz
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Also Revachol doesn't have to receive bad rep for microtransaction schemes

gleaming aspen
idle bay
gleaming aspen
honest frigate
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emperor doing the default dance

feral topaz
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40,000$ penance

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call it "You are the 40K"

lucid olive
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how rare is slaughterer for force swords? I swear I've never seen it on any of them

honest frigate
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Not that common

idle bay
lucid olive
quasi pier
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I have like 400+ hours and only found tier 2 so far

idle bay
quasi pier
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Would guess I've upgraded 20 to 30 force swords to orange

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And that many to blue

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It would be nice if they could boost your chance to find blessings you don't have yet as a small mitigation

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Ghostrider is right though, if you go into with the mindset of trying to farm one specific thing you are just hurting yourself

idle bay
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stops hugging cactus

feral topaz
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Nothing else, and thats why its so annoying

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They talk of a game that encourages very long term investment, but in the current scheme the opposite is true, since you reach a statistical dead end

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Basically, the chances of me finding upgrades to many weapons I have is very very low.

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and I dont wanna demoralize myself

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so I dont bother

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i.e. its too frustrating to even try

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never mind how annoying it is on psyker, since for w/e reason the game really wants to sell me guns

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and I mean, REALLY, wants to sell me guns

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same when it comes to any new content

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I dont care about catachans or knives

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but man does it want me to buy those

runic juniper
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Also dlc weapons will be horrible

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Already painful enough in vt2

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Where there was no drops for them so you had to get 5 regular reds first

quasi pier
runic juniper
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Now you might be shooting your own shop pool in the foot purchasing dlc weapons

safe crystal
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Im at a point in the game where i have everything i want, and theres nothing for me to go for right now, on all of my characters. Hi5 gauntlet was fun for a while, but now i have 10k plasteel in storage for the new things they give us at the end of monthTM, and i dont feel like playing until theres something new

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After 450 hours, that is

feral topaz
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Dude, I dont even know how you managed that

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but its good someones rng is favorable

quasi pier
safe crystal
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I wish it did, i have like

runic juniper
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Good enough. I havent seen a completely perfect weapon yet

safe crystal
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3-4 slaughterer T4's, but no bloodthirsty

feral topaz
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Yeah

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So you accepted what it is because to do otherwise is to go crazy

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I get it

runic juniper
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Best to not interact with the intended progression to a point lol

safe crystal
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Pretty much, and the fact whatever i have right now is as good as even if i slapped bloodthirsty on them

feral topaz
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Right

quasi pier
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I almost quit the game in January because I stopped having fun playing matches because I was just trying to grind plasteel to upgrade more swords and it was all just stupid

feral topaz
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I mean

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That aspect hasn't changed

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the rate of accumulation has

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but the upgrading while praying part hasnt

quasi pier
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Yea, it's not better now, I just got like you too where I stopped caring about it

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Just fishing now basically and seeing what I catch

idle bay
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Add obtaining base for upgrading for to the list. You can spend millions and end up with 350 total as best otem you get

steel egret
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Im just too tired of players, they should give them more buffs so I have to do less.

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Watching vet sprint while poxwalker down him with fist to ass moves

quasi pier
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I think fatshark may have completely fucked up trying to do this whole itemization altogether

feral topaz
still hearth
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I've carried more games as suicidal Knife Zealot than anything else

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Pre-nerf, RIP crit DR

quasi pier
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Would have been better to have weapons with no blessings, but well optimized and all the other effort going to making varied classes with depth to them

feral topaz
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well, you probably don't do half the shit I've seen the other ones do

still hearth
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Knife needs better blessings

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Give it 200% cleave blessings

still hearth
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So I can get my ult back

feral topaz
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too late for that, I think

still hearth
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They should've made weapons without stat mods

feral topaz
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or actually, not l4d

still hearth
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Because that is the worst part

feral topaz
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killing floor

still hearth
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The perks are also useless

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But Blessings are cool

runic juniper
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At least the class specs are much more thought out than vermintide's

still hearth
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If they wanted weapons to have base mods

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They should've made it completely random

feral topaz
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uuuh

still hearth
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500% divided in 5 stats

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No cap

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You can get 500% in damage

feral topaz
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the ogryn charge is basically foot knights charge, the zealots charge is similiar to the one from vt2, psyker's is a 50% of unchained living bomb

runic juniper
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Well, not thought out. Just more focused

still hearth
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That would at least create interesting differences.

feral topaz
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the veteran is the only unique one

feral topaz
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also I never got to use the knife in those days

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I will never know now

still hearth
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I mean I don't mind lotto

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But at least make it a win or loss

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Not just.. meh

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Even the best weapons aren't that much better than the worst you can roll

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Which is so meaningless and still you want the best weapons since they do make a difference

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Not counting blessings

runic juniper
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Vt2 had a 3rd of its talents shared between careers. Darktide's talents feel a lot more varied. There's a lot more playstyles in a single darktide class than a vermintide career

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Guns kinda help too

safe crystal
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Half of Darktides talents dont work

steel egret
feral topaz
safe crystal
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Or they're written poorly

runic juniper
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True though. Now imagine if we had 15 of them

still hearth
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Most things are written poorly atm.

feral topaz
quasi pier
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I strongly support them separating the psykinetic and soulblaze into 2 different classes

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To me it feels like we got half of either of them

still hearth
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There's not enough fire stuff to do that atm

steel egret
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When I see shield I mostly think of " please dont be retarded and park with your shield to some random corner no where near the linear map direct path while holding 2 poxwalkers or something"

still hearth
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And the ideas that seem to be coming is biomancy (gun/knives?) and protrectrate (shields)

still hearth
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There's no saving the shield.

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Even if they play "optimally"

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They have to make the shield a offensively defense weapon

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Not a fucking turtle that doesn't even work as you'd think

steel egret
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I would need to leave every game.

still hearth
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Good.

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Don't help Shield Ogryns

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They should play alone

steel egret
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I think many players I team with are looking for carry

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So I sometimes stop to inspect like stairs

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Or something

quasi pier
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It'd be cool if the alternate had ogryn put the shield on his back instead to block shots to the back

feral topaz
quasi pier
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We'd se so many running backwards ogryns

still hearth
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It'd be cool if the special made you block everything but you can't attack

feral topaz
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If its hi t5 gauntlet?

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I just leave

still hearth
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But you can still move

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And shove

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So you can be a battering ram

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And charge into shooters and gunnersr

steel egret
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They should fix social

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So I can block recent players

cloud sequoia
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KEKW_ogryn took me 3months to get T4 warp flurry

cyan notch
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damn

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thats a nice trauma

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i want that

steel egret
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Wouldnt you rather have the brittleness blessing with that flurry

cloud sequoia
cyan notch
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fuck ur teammates

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faster charge gooder

cloud sequoia
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only your teammate gets the bonus

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KEKW_ogryn i can explode the floor 50% faster and spread chaos

viral solstice
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i want this

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expldoe floor

runic juniper
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Now you just gotta grind for a good staff with t4 warp nexus

viral solstice
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trauma need buff: when u shoot floor

runic juniper
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3 more months baby

viral solstice
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floor vbanish

cloud sequoia
viral solstice
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team fall to die

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bristly he said good staff

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that obviously excludes surge

cloud sequoia
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next list is T4 unstable

runic juniper
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20% crit chance would be huge

cloud sequoia
#

nah not really

still hearth
#

It would be

#

If crits

#

Didn't suck

#

On most weapons

cloud sequoia
#

cant synergize flurry with nexus

#

on trauma

still hearth
#

Maniac damage on Purg

#

Y'all need to join the cult of Unyielding

cloud sequoia
still hearth
#

The struggles of being poor

#

We're all poor

blazing oak
#

What is critical peril in terms for kinetic flayer

still hearth
#

80%+ I think

cloud sequoia
#

80

still hearth
#

Whenever the number goes red

blazing oak
#

I hit one at 90% though

still hearth
#

Why does it not work in critical peril? Who knows.

#

There's literally no reason for it to not work that way atm.

cloud sequoia
still hearth
#

But it costs no peril

#

Its a free BB

blazing oak
#

I stabbed a guy at 90% and he exploded so

still hearth
#

Who knows.

#

Fatshark does things.

cloud sequoia
#

Loreful feats KEKW_ogryn thumbsup_ogryn

safe crystal
#

Isnt critical 97%, or am i remembering something else?

still hearth
#

Idk tbh.

#

Its very high peril at least

cloud sequoia
#

Yea 97 you explode doing BB

runic juniper
#

Its at least 97

cyan notch
#

its 97

runic juniper
#

For flayer

cyan notch
#

its the same shit with kinetic deflection

#

you take stamina block at 97

viral solstice
#

basically the way it works is theres these thresholds set in the peril profile

#

some things use those thresholds

#

the way they fixed the blessing behaviour was by

#

wait for it

#

stopping them from using the thresholds and just using their own peril lgoic

summer prairie
#

Even peril block doesn't use the threshold even though it's also 97

viral solstice
#

plock

summer prairie
#

bots still think the critical threshold is 0.9

viral solstice
#

bots dont giev a fuck

cyan notch
#

gigachad level 1 dorfan with his 0 feats 0 curios nothing but his trusty devils claw and laspistol strolling into damnation

olive ember
#

oh right today is thursday

#

maybe we get something copium

cloud sequoia
#

staregryn i want T4 slaughterer and T4 unstable on my deimos

olive ember
#

Generally critical is 97% peril yea

cyan notch
#

we aint getting shit except maybe a hotfix

olive ember
#

unless it got changed to 80

#

lmao

#

let me cope

cloud sequoia
olive ember
#

prob not

#

I think it would take atleast 2 or 3

#

wait the deimos

#

not the illisi

#

not sure

cloud sequoia
#

I have t3 slaughterer, can deal 2/3 hp

#

At least half

cyan notch
#

yea u prob can with 6 stacks and 100 peril

viral solstice
#

7 stacks and 101 peril

cyan notch
cold geode
viral solstice
cold geode
#

Gonna put a Rashad skin on my antax to freak people out in damnation

viral solstice
#

that would be so beautiful

cyan notch
#

theres no rashad skin

leaden thunder
#

there is 1

#

it's like throne watcher or something

#

uses the rashad as the base

#

I use a skin that turns mine into the achyls

cyan notch
#

ngl idk what throne watcher is

leaden thunder
#

one of the premium ones, I want to say it's the second page

olive ember
#

I'd say imagine paying money to troll

#

but

#

then I remember the gold masks

still hearth
#

So many times I see people post the skinned Antax

#

And I go "what the fuck"

#

And then realize its a skin

#

Why did Fatshark do this

olive ember
#

I'd skin all my staffs to look like trauma or purge but

steel egret
#

Dont you want one?

olive ember
#

then I would forget which staff is which

maiden wolf
sand quest
#

Hey uh, does Surge work with Trauma Staff's right click? Im in meatgrinder and I dont see it hitting 2 times...

shy prairie
sand quest
shy prairie
#

presuming the blessing that doubles up damage, which *theoretically should work with the

cloud sequoia
sand quest
#

God dammit

still hearth
#

The secondary isn't a shot so it doesn't do anything.

sand quest
#

I got excited over nothing then

#

thanks btw!

still hearth
#

Currently only the Voidstrike works with it fully

cloud sequoia
#

it works but only your left click thumbsup_ogryn

#

its useless for trauma, purgatus, lightning

still hearth
#

It is only for Trauma and Void

#

The other two can't get it

#

So you're right

cloud sequoia
#

KEKW_ogryn damn even more useless

still hearth
#

Surge

#

Having high crit chance built in

#

And yet it can't roll the SURGE blessing

#

So you can't even do some funky LMB spam build

cloud sequoia
#

lightning not a projectile

still hearth
#

Yeah but the primary use

#

At least then you could've made like a funky build

#

Where you shoot 2 shots every other time since the primary shot is actually good

#

And double shots with it would be neat

kind jay
#

surge would be great on surge

#

quell cancel lmb is a thing

still hearth
#

I actually used that more than the secondary when I ran surge

#

If you use the cancel you do more damage to a lot of targets with that

#

And for some reason the LMB has massive stagger and suppression values

kind jay
#

blind firing into a room is enough to scatter gunners

forest coral
#

blast room

#

life good

honest frigate
#

Or purgatus on purgatus

forest coral
#

trauma on trauma action

still hearth
#

Staff on staff

kind jay
#

im surprised every staff didnt get their own blessing. Surge (expands lightning chain to 10 targets), Purge (crits do 3 ticks instead of 2), Trauma (double explosion), Void (pulls nearby enemies into the line)

still hearth
#

Is my favorite

still hearth
#

They didn't put effort into Psyker until lately

icy hare
#

illisi mk v force sword perks, currently have lvl 3 specialist melee dmg and lvl 3 unarmoured dmg. which should i replace with what?

kind jay
#

what was it that they called it? immeasurably complex?

still hearth
#

You probably want to replace specialist with Maniac

#

If you have an ideal set-up you can replace it with Infested

#

And one-shot up to 21 poxwalkers

forest coral
still hearth
#

But you need Slaughterer T4, Unstable Force T4 and max rolls.

forest coral
#

is that the limit

still hearth
#

Yes

#

The cleave goes up to 21 poxwalkers

icy hare
#

got unstable power t4 on it, but haven't rolled a slaughterer yet

#

thanks for the help

still hearth
#

With a maxed out, doped up Illisi

#

You also have to run 6 stacks and be at 80%+ peril with WU

icy hare
#

unstable power has to be the most poorly worded blessing. sounds like a POS, didn't realise it gives stacks

still hearth
#

But its possible

forest coral
#

damn isnt that still less than powersword

still hearth
#

For?

forest coral
#

max cleaving

#

oops

#

brain fart

still hearth
#

Kind of

#

Power Sword has the same values basically

#

But does more base damage

#

But you also want Power Cycler on Psword

#

And can't increase your melee damage through feats

forest coral
#

I guess illisi swings alot faster as well

#

ye

still hearth
#

But also you can just

#

Two-hit 21 targets instead

#

Which isn't a big difference in TTK

#

Unless you have to kill like 200 targets all on your own

forest coral
#

ye

#

at that point its like

still hearth
#

You can also combo it with Purg

#

And just blast them quickly

forest coral
#

may as well start using staff

still hearth
#

Before swiping

#

It helps clean up speed but if you use a single charge of Purg you should be able to cleave through a horde like butter

#

If you have T4 Slaughterer, T4 Unstable and +25% Infested

forest coral
#

not to mention the funny force push gives u ample time

#

to do a power charge and swing

still hearth
#

You only need 6 stacks and 0% peril to one-shot to the head

#

So you can cleave 21 people all the time basically

forest coral
still hearth
#

With WU 10% base

#

Illisi kinda dumb

forest coral
#

illisi is very dumb

#

but in a weird fun kind of way

#

still surprises me there were quite a few players calling this thing weak on patch

cyan notch
forest coral
#

thats nice sword blood

viral solstice
#

its trash

#

8% weakspot damage

#

lmao

#

brick

still hearth
#

True

#

Barter it

viral solstice
#

barter it for more drug

cyan notch
#

the other one was 8% crit damage

#

💀

still hearth
#

Imagine when they fix weakspot/crit damage perks

#

In 2033

#

Damn

#

You get

#

2 damage

#

On special heavy

#

From weakspot damage

cyan notch
forest coral
cyan notch
#

yea i dont got much choice between 2 trash perks

still hearth
#

YOu do get

#

20 more damage on light weakspots

viral solstice
#

u get big jort

#

i mean its also not obvious why weakspot damage

#

needs to get screwed by cleave

#

like if i hit u in the head its bad because its ur head

still hearth
#

Yeah what if

#

We used the weakspot damage number

#

Like how does this make any sense

lethal folio
#

Damn, yellow barrels do nearly 4k damage to beast.

viral solstice
#

well i mean i guess the underlying logic is like

still hearth
#

You go from doing 2.3x damage, to doing.. 1.1x damage?

#

Where did all my damage bonus go

viral solstice
#

there are single target precision weapons that kill u with SKEEL

#

the finesse archetype

lethal folio
#

Blame crits.

viral solstice
#

and tahts crit and weakspot and idk its not very skeel if i whip a rapier across u

#

but its like

#

why unify these ideas

#

hitting u in the head hurts u because ur head is ur head

still hearth
#

You even do 2.5x weakspot damage

#

To the first target

#

Then you do 1.16x

#

Like

#

What

viral solstice
#

u used the finesse juice up idiot

#

why u spend it all at once

still hearth
#

CRAB

#

I CAN'T HELP IT

#

THE JUICE

viral solstice
#

oh no the juice too much

#

i drank like a pint of apple juice earlier

#

im aple

kind jay
#

im eating gushers and fruit roll ups

spark oxide
#

I checked chat 8 minutes ago and saw Illisi talk, how did it devolve SO fast OMEGALUL

kind jay
#

we talkin about illussy?

olive ember
#

#

First hadron, then trappers, now force swords

blazing trout
#

Hopefully melk brings me my blessings today

#

I just want a stunning fire autopistol on my psyker 😦

#

Rub my illisi 3 times and start spraying

#

Actually.. On the topic of gun Psyker.. curious what people think between feats column 3,5,6

wet belfry
#

Tier 5 is always kinetic flayer for me on that weapon

blazing trout
#

Was thinking there might be something to be said about cerebral with the random brain burst.

#

See, that’s what I was thinking last night. It looks like it would be awesome

wet belfry
#

Its easy to proc due to shredders fast fire rate, maintains warp charges

blazing trout
#

What do you prefer at 6?

wet belfry
#

Kb, AB both work

#

Depends more on team composition, modifier.

#

On high intensity gaunlet for example I’ve preferred kinetic barrage for the faster brainbursts, which helps me deal with many of the specials easier.

#

It also conserves more ammo as i can use BB instead of the gun when the gun isn’t required.

blazing trout
#

I think KB sounds cozy

wet belfry
#

Ascendant blaze mainly allows you to fry hordes, shooters.

#

Pinning fire affects the soulblaze dots.

blazing trout
#

Have you gotten lucky on a good shredder yet?

wet belfry
#

So 4 warp charges will kill all the gunners.

blazing trout
#

That’s really really good to know

wet belfry
#

I have a t3 pinning fire, t3 blaze away.

#

I need to somewhat maintain pinning fire for most gunners to die.

#

Your third feat is actually more dictated on if its KB or AB

#

Lacerations for KB, Warp communion for AB.

near gale
onyx frigate
#

no way

#

what are the odds

feral verge
#

nice

onyx frigate
#

I guess I have to start using this now

ornate hamlet
#

best blessings for trauma staff? warp nexus/flurry aswell?

blazing trout
#

Brittle

feral verge
#

warp nexus is very meh, because the trauma staff has shockingly low crit damage

leaden thunder
#

warp nexus + blazing is also a thing

#

I have been testing it

#

seems ok

feral verge
leaden thunder
#

everytime I tried to test it I also got a prugatus psyker

#

so that kinda fucked with my wildfire

#

or I got thrown into hi int shock

supple skiff
#

so trauma staff users, what am I looking for as far as blessings and perks

mental rock
#

Literally look up

#

Flurry + rending

frail berry
#

What can I do to make this one better? Re-bless barrage to nexus? Ranged crit hit damage to +dmg to flack?

#

Does purg even need Terrifying barrage?

leaden thunder
#

no weapon ever needs terrifying

feral verge
#

terrifying barrage is pointless on purga

leaden thunder
#

it's like

feral verge
#

put warp nexus in terrifying barrage's spot

leaden thunder
#

i'll take it over a lot of other shitty blessings

#

but it's still just worse then like everything on pretty much anything it can roll on

feral verge
#

change crit damage to unarmored

#

purga already does bonus damage to flak

#

2x the damage

frail berry
#

ahh

mental rock
#

Maniac is also nice on purg

frail berry
#

ty!

vestal raven
#

new channel name idea: brain gang

kind jay
#

how about Vet 2.0

pine relic
#

Flak+unarmoured

still hearth
#

Y'all unarmored

#

Why

#

Everything dies in 2 charges anyway

#

Run Unyielding

#

Or Maniac, if you really need to feel like you have to do more damage more often

feral verge
#

i'd rather make the horde clear weapon even better at hordeclear

still hearth
#

That's such a waste

#

It's not even a horde clear weapon

#

Its a "kill everything it touches weapon"

feral verge
#

i BB ogryns and melee bosses

still hearth
#

You can charge twice

#

Then melee bosses

#

If you really have the room for that

cloud sequoia
still hearth
#

Meleeing BoN only is a huge hassle

#

And hitting WS on Plogryn is rough

#

The Purg just has insane overkill on all unarmored targets in my eyes.

#

Groaners just die in one charge

#

Then the mid-tier goons are like 2 charges anyway

#

So you have 1 gunner and sniper left

#

But you'll BB sniper anyway

#

Its just not as impactful as on other weapons that go from 2 shots to 1 shot

olive ember
#

omg guys

#

we are getting something today!

#

lets all predict how they will nerf psyker into the ground now that we got one week of fun

supple skiff
#

right lol

#

illsi getting hit with the nerf bat

#

if anything is going to happen I hope they stop at removing innate deflector

still hearth
#

I hope they add it to Obscurus

#

And turn Deflector into something cool

forest coral
#

I just had deflector clutch a save for me

still hearth
#

In how many games have you had that happen.

jade geode
forest coral
#

Bout 2

wide tiger
#

I think the problem is for those that have the deflector blessing already locked on their weapons they need to replace it with something useful, i like the idea of reflector but it encourages passive gameplay so they prob wont ever do that

forest coral
#

Rarely it happens but in this case it really did lol

leaden thunder
wide tiger
#

If they wanna nerf ilisi and psword they just nerf slaughterer

leaden thunder
#

yep

still hearth
grizzled jasper
#

fatshark we have feedback of vet over performing in hi5S so we decided to nerf the forcesword

forest coral
#

No deflector would have downed

still hearth
#

I think it broke your toughness so you had damage resistance anyway

#

So I'm pretty sure you would've lived with a bit less HP

forest coral
#

I dunno, there was a lot of things shooting

still hearth
#

Mohahaha

#

Deflector useless

#

Jk

ornate hamlet
#

Best blessings for voidstrike? I have t4 surge and t4 sustained

still hearth
#

It does help but idk

#

Voidstrike wants Flurry and Transfer Peril

ornate hamlet
#

bet

still hearth
#

Surge and Nexus is okay if you prefer to play at 80% peril

#

Sustained Fire doesn't work on the secondary btw

#

So

jade geode
#

Exorcist.

forest coral
jade geode
#

You can literally quell more peril than you produce if used right XD.

spice veldt
#

did they change it to make it proc more than once per cleave?

jade geode
#

Was answering the voidstrike staff question

spice veldt
#

oh you mean transfer peril

#

exorcist is the force sword variant

jade geode
#

Ah fk, yeah sry, that's the melee name for it. My b

forest coral
#

oh yeah transfer peril is awesome on void

calm sapphire
#

How many hits can kinetic deflection take when reving?

feral verge
#

depends on what weapon your holding

#

guarantee no one knows

#

but its alot

#

jsut be at low peril

#

you can rez anyone in just anout any size horde

spice veldt
#

depends on block eff and +stam curios right?

still hearth
#

Yeah.

#

Also it doesn't depend on what weapon you're holding.

feral verge
#

unless there are ragers and crushers/maulers

spice veldt
#

or does block efficiency on melee weapon also affect rev

still hearth
#

It defaults to your base stamina with hands.

spice veldt
#

ah

still hearth
#

I think it doesn't affect ress

jade geode
spice veldt
#

so just curios

still hearth
#

I haven't tried it but because it uses your "non-weapon stamina"

spice veldt
#

peril is effectively 4 times your stamina bar

still hearth
#

It seems reasonable it no longer cares about what weapon you had out.

spice veldt
#

that's I would reckon

still hearth
#

I think hands have like 5 or 6 stamina base

spice veldt
#

mmm yeah I suppose the old days of Deflector making you block on res was when cross-weapon blessing interactions occurred

still hearth
#

So you get a big boost compared to what the sword base is

jade geode
#

Ah the days of Deflector working while rezzing, along with KD

still hearth
#

But if you're at 0% peril you should be able to tank a lot of hits

jade geode
#

I miss those days

jade geode
spice veldt
#

rending% (self-buff) isn't cross-weapon

jade geode
#

It applies the buff to your character, not your weapon, so it-....

spice veldt
#

you can use an uncanny strike knife and swap to your ranged to test it

jade geode
#

Yeah, that.

calm sapphire
#

Thinking about it, would it be a bad idea if fatshark implements a subclass mage that can auto heal + insta revive?

leaden thunder
#

anything that is +x rending isn't rending

still hearth
#

You can apply the rending debuff on enemies though

#

Which is supposed to be Brittleness

#

But they don't know their own terms

still hearth
#

Yeah that's what I was getting at

#

But sometimes they call it Rending

#

By mistake

feral verge
#

uz that class would become anecessity in higher tiers

jade geode
#

Huh.

feral verge
#

and it'd suck cuz you wouldnt be able to play the class you want to play

#

ppl would want you to comply with the meta

calm sapphire
feral verge
#

no, i mean like

#

youre in a lobby as psyker

forest coral
#

If Fatshark let us change load outs before spawning in

#

That would be fantastic

feral verge
#

for high difficulty

#

and your pals in the lobbly would be like

#

psyker? are you sure? switych to healer

#

like every game

#

cuz it'd be op, and be meta

spice veldt
#

i mean regardless of whether it heals

#

if it's significantly stronger than other subclasses

forest coral
#

Wouldn’t healing as a class skill be stupidly overpowered in this game tho

spice veldt
#

that's just plain bad balancing in action

#

maybe

spice veldt
#

definitely

#

if it's unconditional healing

#

with literally no limits

feral verge
#

it would be so OP that if you werent playing it, you'd be pestered/flamed for not playing healer

#

so you'd be forced to play it

#

even tho you didnt want to

#

and if you werent being forced, someone else will be forced

forest coral
#

If it was like waystalker’s super slow 1 hp per 10 seconds kind of thing

#

Maybe it would be okayish

woeful cliff
#

I mean, could just tie it to the blitz still and have it grenade dependent

spice veldt
#

and presumably it's going to be toughness healing

#

not health healing

forest coral
#

Yeah

woeful cliff
#

Maybe bio healing

spice veldt
#

and tack on a lot of conditions

#

because they're clearly quite careful of avoiding temp hp

still hearth
#

They're already playing around with Zealot with HP regen

#

So lets go

#

But not a support Psyker

#

A life drain Psyker

#

Drain tank

forest coral
#

Health as a renewable resource would kill most challenge in most difficulties

still hearth
forest coral
#

Well yeh

still hearth
#

Just balance it.

forest coral
#

Holy revenant is just

still hearth
#

Trash

forest coral
still hearth
#

TWBS is king. Just avoid damage.

forest coral
#

f in window, all hp fully recovered

silent geode
forest coral
#

I unno, I’ve only ever found twbs okay on hammer oddly enuff

still hearth
#

The moment I play Zealot without TWBS I immediately notice how stupid slowdown from being shot at is

woeful cliff
#

I’m thinking a grenade that immediately gives you full toughness, toughness DR, and toughness regen for a certain time.

Keeps the theme of it keeping your teammates alive but it doesn’t give you renewable health.

still hearth
#

But if you play more into shooting then it probably doesn't affect much.

#

The Psyker that was leaked was like a shield Psyker

#

With temporary HP for the team

woeful cliff
#

Hmmm

still hearth
#

Which sounds dope

#

Buff the Zealot with temp HP

woeful cliff
#

It do

still hearth
#

Make an area of protection around you

forest coral
#

A psyker wall which you can set up to destroy projectiles and block hordes would be kinda cool too

viral solstice
#

i dont want anything to ever make me helpo my team

spice veldt
#

so another hp resource besides the current hp and toughness

still hearth
#

You only get to help your team now Crab

#

Its mandatory

forest coral
#

Yeah

calm sapphire
forest coral
#

I’d love to play a supportive psyker

woeful cliff
#

zealot can finally have an excuse to stay at low hp “fucking Shield me psyker”

still hearth
#

As if Zealot needs an excuse

viral solstice
#

im not playing

#

:grumgpe

river sand
#

hey is brunts broken ? spend 500k on various weapons, and the highest i got was 330

forest coral
#

Nah

woeful cliff
forest coral
#

U gambled and got the unlucky side of probability

viral solstice
river sand
#

havent seen a 370+ for weeks

woeful cliff
#

Oof unlucky

forest coral
#

It be like that sometimes PensiveBread

#

That’s extremely unlucky tho

calm sapphire
#

Would it be funny if zealots gets a sister of silence subclass?

forest coral
#

All psyker teammates can no longer use warp powers

#

Psyker team mates cannot approach sister of silence

#

Approaching will result in instant downed animation

woeful cliff
#

Uninstalls your game

viral solstice
#

what about if they release a friendship update

#

where u can make friend