but im 63 damage off
#psyker-class
olive ember
I run OFS with surge and I’m fine how bad can a DFS be
spice veldt
that works
olive ember
Mhm
spice veldt
I personally run tough-tough-3stam since I hate shooters
limber silo
Dude I swear l1 h2 deimos is a fucking MONSTER
feral verge
all hp for me
limber silo
For when my teammates revive me into a crusher overhead
Or a sniper
cyan notch
but im 63 damage off
that doesnt look like 63 damage
limber silo
I have been rez'd only to be immediately assassinated by a sniper far too oftwn
limber silo
2 wound gang rise up
viral solstice
i was just testing the connection from the side dodge
but wiht 6 it was 63 off which was truly tragic
cyan notch
ive done it with unstable and like 3? warp charges
cyan notch
yea thats not happening
viral solstice
with maniacs
limber silo
I want to get funy fire sword
viral solstice
it would do it
i just have 5% crit on it instead of maniacs
i could PUT maniacs on it
limber silo
I need it
ornate hamlet
best blessings for purg staff?
limber silo
best blessings for purg staff?
Warp Nexus and your choice of flurry, focused, or terrifying Barrage imo
ornate hamlet
Warp Nexus and your choice of flurry, focused, or terrifying Barrage imo
bet
limber silo
Crit = double stacks fyi
Too bad Surge synergizes the least from crit, but is the only staff with crit boost
viral solstice
the perfect sword
cyan notch
not 550 unfortunately
limber silo
Nah, swap Unstable w/ Bloodthirsty, then it's perfect
cyan notch
donate to hadron rn
spice veldt
540/550
feral verge
the perfect sword
Give me that unstable 4
feral verge
It's all I need and my build is perfect
limber silo
On a Deimos
cyan notch
25% maniac is just free damage
cyan notch
better than usntable
limber silo
Why would you replace the crit on a soulblaze fs?
That's literally double the chance that you set shit on fire
shy prairie
feats with trauma?
spice veldt
whatever works with trauma
limber silo
Misread
spice veldt
unless you're going for a blazing spirit build
otherwise it's whatevs
this is personally what I run but I also mainly build around my melee
limber silo
212131 for me on trauma
cyan notch
backshots
near wyvern
212131 for me on trauma
Why on earth are you not running quietitude? Trauma is one of the highest peril generators in game, it's literally just a constant spource of free toughness
limber silo
Because I kill things with Trauma and gain toughness for doing so?
feral verge
Quietude triggers with battle meditation
near wyvern
And the moment you get pinned by a ranged squad you will cry for mama with 0 toughness
shy prairie
hmm
feral verge
Which procs often with ttauma
near wyvern
And can't do jack shit about it
limber silo
And the moment you get pinned by a ranged squad you will cry for mama with 0 tou...
Yeah, good thing that doesn't happen to often to me
Also I don't run around with 100% peril because I don't have Unstable Power
viral solstice
i only get pinned by attractive muscular women
limber silo
Also I know how to hide behind a wall
near wyvern
You don't need to run around with 100 peril you just gotta use your staff and quietitude works
near wyvern
Warp Absorption only gives you toughness when you don't need it
limber silo
10% chance to regen 5% toughness, or 100% to regen toughness on kill. I choose the second one because I kill things good
near wyvern
Even EH is better, but since the quell buffs and Battle Meditation fix, there is very little reason to run even EH
feral verge
10% chance to regen 5% toughness, or 100% to regen toughness on kill. I choose ...
Sounds bad when you put it like that, but don't forget
near wyvern
10% chance to regen 5% toughness, or 100% to regen toughness on kill. I choose ...
You forget the fact that you regen whenever you quell which you eventually have to do if you wanna use your staff
limber silo
You forget the fact that you regen whenever you quell which you eventually have ...
Nah, Battle Meditation keeps me nice and cool usually. Because I kill a lot of things
I rarely quell in hordes
feral verge
That's a point for quietitude then
limber silo
It usually in slower combat that I need to quell manually
limber silo
That's a point for quietitude then
Again, 10% chance on kill for battle meditation to proc quietude. 100% to gain toughness when you kill something with EH
near wyvern
And when you are killing melee with Trauma you don't need toughness
It's only when you are fighting melee when you find the need for toughness
Melee is not able to touch trauma
limber silo
No, I need the toughness so I can ignore shooters while killing melee
near wyvern
No, I need the toughness so I can ignore shooters while killing melee
Says the one who said they know how to use cover?
feral verge
Quietitude is giving you toughness all the time. EH is only when you kill
limber silo
Then when melee is dead, I hide behind a corner next to my team so I regen toughness anyways and just BB the rest
near wyvern
It's when you get pinned by ranged and there are no melee mobs when you need toughness
spice veldt
you don't use trauma for ranged?
limber silo
It's when you get pinned by ranged and there are no melee mobs when you need tou...
Yeah so hide behind a corner
I cannot do that as well when there's melee fucking me up too
near wyvern
Yeah so hide behind a corner
Well here is the thing. With Quietitude I don't need to hide behind a corner, I can continue to peek and start killing the ranged.
limber silo
If you take missions a little more slowly, shooters won't catch you as often
spice veldt
eh, that's way too slow though
trauma makes space and staggers shooters so that you and your team can run in to whoop their ass
feral verge
Yee
limber silo
Well here is the thing. With Quietitude I don't need to hide behind a corner, I ...
No you can't because you're too busy quelling to shoot things
feral verge
Good luck getting pubs to go at the pace you want
spice veldt
you have to quell anyways to continuously use your staff
limber silo
How are you killing something while quelling? Are you just getting battle med ALL the time
spice veldt
i'm quelling when my peril is at 100%
limber silo
Good luck getting pubs to go at the pace you want
Damnation is pretty nice nowadays imo
spice veldt
aka when I can't even use my staff
viral solstice
me looking out at the normies who take damage
near wyvern
No you can't because you're too busy quelling to shoot things
Lmao, it takes 0.5 seconds or a bit less to quell a full charge of trauma for me.
feral verge
Psyker ult with quietitude is also an instant 50% toughness gain
limber silo
Okay, well it takes me zero seconds to not quell because I don't sit at 100% like a goon all the time
near wyvern
Okay, well it takes me zero seconds to not quell because I don't sit at 100% lik...
But you said you gonna hide and BB
spice veldt
you don't have to sit at 100% peril all the time
near wyvern
So are you hiding from range or not now?
limber silo
Yeah, at 97% because I won't explode
spice veldt
you're going to generate peril while using trauma
and then just quell when you're high
limber silo
And then I can do it again after I gained my toughness by killing something
viral solstice
i sit at 100% because exploding is my playstyle (its deliberate u cant flame me for it)
a lot of ppl arent on this level of explosion
limber silo
Also, I can hide while killing. Because BB doesn't require me to stay in sight
near wyvern
And then I can do it again after I gained my toughness by killing something
Ahh yeah just kill 10 targets with BB. That will only take 30 seconds + the tiny bit of quelling on between.
near wyvern
Also, I can hide while killing. Because BB doesn't require me to stay in sight
If you go this you'd be better off with EH
limber silo
The only thing that is gonna take all my toughness that fast is a gunner horde
limber silo
If you go this you'd be better off with EH
No because I run purge and I have terrible luck when I run EH
spiral forum
Hey Guys, my brother plays Psyker and I sent the pinned guide, What's just the quick and dirty most generic consensus "best" Psyker Build
Just trying to help him out
spice veldt
purg if you don't know how to melee
limber silo
Idk why you think 5% toughness sometimes is better than 10% toughness always when you kill something
spice veldt
because it's not about battle meditation
limber silo
Manually quelling is just something I don't do
limber silo
I don't need to because I have my ult, and I have a high kill count
limber silo
I usually run AB with purge
I use quicken with everything else unless I'm running gunker
twilit flicker
purg if you don't know how to melee
Shouldn't it be the reverse? Purge if you know how to fight melee, and if you don't pick up a gun or voidstrike?
spice veldt
purg is the substitute for melee
twilit flicker
Also, everyone should know how to melee regardless. That's fair I guess.
spice veldt
i've seen psykers who just crumble on hab dreyko
viral solstice
hab dreyko is hard af
u have to avoid blowing urself up
but theres so many opportunities
limber silo
I would run Quietude if I had better Quell stats on my staves, or if I had a tranfer peril VS. But I don't
cyan notch
hab dreyko is hard af
im hab dreyko
limber silo
But I find EH more effective because I get toughness when I need it
twilit flicker
but theres so many opportunities
Opportunities for greatness!
limber silo
I would have to quell 200% peril to regain all my toughness with Quietude, while I can kill 10 things to regain with EH
spice veldt
my encounters usually fall into two extremes
limber silo
I've been saying EH this whole time, haven't I
spice veldt
yup
limber silo
FUCK
spice veldt
either my trauma staff staggers shooters/thins them enough to just roll them over
or the encounter is slow and I can't guarantee that I'll kill enough enemies
spice veldt
in the latter, I would prefer trauma, since I can initiate engagements from 100% toughness at will
leaden thunder
spice veldt
and I don't like having to peek out with no toughness
viral solstice
btw real gamers just hit em with da staff left click
one shot one kill
thats how u do it
limber silo
Look, I can't be blamed for confusing Essence Harvest and Warp Absorption when they literally mean the same thing
You could argue that absorbing warp energy is harvesting that essence. And vice versa
They need better names
Imho
spice veldt
i just remember the feats based off the UI rather than the name
twilit flicker
Essence Absorbtion and Warp Harvest
limber silo
I just say xxx for each feat
cyan notch
essencitude
limber silo
Essence Absorbtion and Warp Harvest
See? It works
twilit flicker
No confusion whatsoever
limber silo
Also why does Absorb have a b, but Absorption have a p?
feral verge
Tbh using feats is a major crutch anyway
spice veldt
🅱️
feral verge
I rarely run any feats cuz it's just an excuse for bad play
You shouldn't need feats
limber silo
Yeah, I just levitate above the earth because I'm not a noob
limber silo
No one is surprised Crab. You have hella wizardry vibes. Also you're in psyker chat
feral verge
Crabdalf
limber silo
Everyone here is a wizard
cyan notch
limber silo
In conclusion: Why would I run the "Gain toughness when not killing things (except when you proc battle med or have exorcist or transfer, lol)" when I could run "Gain toughness when killing things?"
feral verge
Sometimes you aren't killing things or can't kill things
limber silo
And I could just gain toughness outside of combat by... not wandering away from the party?
viral solstice
im smoking on bhutanese shadow garden grown dark evil pack
feral verge
Boss fights, bunched up ogryn enemies, ect.
limber silo
I can always kill something. Even when there's no enemies around, there is always a yellow barrel to kill the Zealot with.
spice veldt
staying with your team only is slow as hell though
you're not exploring side paths or pushing when your entire team is searching around side paths for some reason
limber silo
Doesn't the toughness regen scale with coherency?
spice veldt
toughness regen speed on curios yeah
limber silo
No, I meant the passive regen
tawny river
are the new psyker force swords bugged? they seem to have deflector built in
spice veldt
2.5/3.75/5 regen per 2/3/4 players in coherency
feral verge
Probably a bug yea
limber silo
are the new psyker force swords bugged? they seem to have deflector built in
Hopefully it's just a new feature they forgot to tell us about
I would honestly be down with it
Why do I need to give Hadron my sword to make it block bullets, when I have a perfectly good brain I can use that for?
Okay, maybe it's not a good brain, but it works. Sometimes
limber silo
staying with your team only is slow as hell though
Also I generally do map exploration when combat is slow.
rare furnace
I think I want rippers to be chopable like Alice their hands in the air for more satisfying feel like the small dudes
kind jay
it's more ironic when you consider that you're not even using the sword to deflect, just your hand
limber silo
For real, why do I need a sword to tell my hand what to do?
Isn't most of psyker equipment either mental stabilizing/enhancement and placebos?
limber silo
Idk where I'm remembering this from, but I think psykers do a lot of random shit and claim it helps them do x, when it really doesn't. But because they believe it does, it does
Almost like the Waaagh, but not at all
I don't know why the staves let me do different things with my powers. Couldn't hypothetically hold a metal stick and say "this one let's me turn people into mashed potatoes," and then I can?
limber silo
How dare you
kind jay
i dared
limber silo
Funny hats are what makes psyker the best
kind jay
maybe even double dared
limber silo
Everyone else has stupid normal hats (except Zealot, they look fucking weird) and we have the gigachad 20 pounds of steel with doodles lasered on to it bubble head
kind jay
i just dislike that there's basically a single collar they use on every shirt
limber silo
Zealot has dumb hats like "let me put on this gimp mask and wear my underwear on my head, that'll be cool."
It's so the Headwear attaches cleanly
kind jay
i just wanna use the prison shirt without it
limber silo
Fair enough
limber silo
That one does look pretty bad
Then again, we are psykers. We were probably put in torture helmets on the prison ships
Not like drip was important then
kind jay
as a filthy Warframe player i will say that drip is always important. even when you're getting the shitake mushroom kicked out of you
gotta look good when a sniper puts a hole in my head
it's a well known fact that if you look good, your damage increases
ornate hamlet
<:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Crab-o. Old man from Dark Souls would be proud.
leaden thunder
just quickplayed into damnation hi int shock troopers
oh god
we actually did pretty well
until a beast spawned in the worst place I can think of
gilded viper
I quick played twice into low int, shit was so boring end up hold sprint most of the mission
Free mat I guess
twilit veldt
would this work with wildfire?
steel egret
I dont think theý use Deimos for it but I suppose it would apply just the same
albeit on other one you get to cleave with special multiple enemies
twilit veldt
aaaaaand my game crashed when i put wildfire on
twilit veldt
tbh i prefer deimos over illisi
tho what i want is deflector to try it out
tho more power blessings would be much nicer
river sand
is there some sort of free week for darktide or something like that? the last few days i only get paired with complete morons ....
kind jay
nope just trash being trash
shadow quail
I've actually had decent groups last week or so, just luck of the draw I guess
kind jay
my dam groups last night were something awful. it's like the entire community forgot that if you don't do objectives you kinda can't finish the map
weak galleon
can this be turned into something decent, or nah?
haven't played with Trauma after buffs it received at all
weak galleon
and this?
river sand
thats not bad
weak galleon
thats alot of crits.
spice veldt
pretty nice stats
weak galleon
also, if I get Warp Nexus lvl4 from Surge, can I apply it to other staff afterwards?
have this here as well
i.e. to other type of staff.
spice veldt
replace executor or shred with slaughterer, reroll crit chance into +maniac or +flak
unfortunately not
all four staffs do not share a blessing pool
not even the equinox staffs
weak galleon
wow.
spice veldt
yeah it sucks
weak galleon
so I if I want Warp Nexus level 4 on Void or purge, I need to specifically look for Void/purge with WNexus lvl4?
spice veldt
mhm
weak galleon
i couldn't even imagine they'd implement such a shit system.
Guess thats their answer for having 4 classes in DTide vs 15 in VT.
Grind more
where can I read about which psyker weapons share blessings?
Don't seem to have a slaughterer.
spice veldt
for pretty much every weapon, if they're of the same "family", then they share blessings
your intuition should work for most cases
e.g., recon lasguns share blessings between one another but can not be transferred over to kantrael or helbore lasguns
it's fairly intuitive for guns at least
same for melee
combat axes share blessings but they can't be transferred over to tactical axes
all 1h force swords currently share blessings
weak galleon
k ty
spice veldt
:o
leaden thunder
massive upgrade since I only have t1 otherwise
spice veldt
WHAT
leaden thunder
spice veldt
damn that's straight up twice more power
smh
i suppose i shall tolerate your presence in this chat once more
leaden thunder
feral verge
I hadn't played my psyker hardly at all until this last patch
can we ban this guy
fairweather psyker
rare furnace
People who play psyker and preacher > other people
feral verge
People who play psyker and preacher > other people
thats all i play
mainly psyker
cuz zealot is brain off for me
and brain off isnt as fun as brain on
rare furnace
Psyker excite me more
feral verge
yee
rare furnace
Preacher is more guaranteed win
leaden thunder
as of now psyker tickles my build brain
rare furnace
But it’s not show off
leaden thunder
and I like that
rare furnace
While in psyker I can do some cool stuff
rare furnace
Yep
feral verge
yeah zealot is easy mode
leaden thunder
at least in terms of what the talents do
rare furnace
When we actually get new skins I’ll play my preacher for sure
Rn my psyker has best drip
leaden thunder
when the TH and evis gets buffed I'll probably start mainly playing zealot again
or if we get a two handed chaxe
will you still tolerate me when I say the truama staff I am working on
spice veldt
if I don't see focused channeling, i'm gon
spice veldt
damn
leaden thunder
I have another one that is normal tho
spice veldt
I've never really tried out a blazing spirit trauma cuz I'm too scared to branch out, but a blazing spirit wildfire force sword I tried out worked nicely
viral solstice
rare furnace
when the TH and evis gets buffed I'll probably start mainly playing zealot again
What if we get eviser special that cleaves instead of sticking
leaden thunder
it just needs like
the cleave damage cap removed
and more cleave in general
also it's blessings need a buff
I am totally fine with stickiness of the chain weapons
I still need warp nexus for my trauma
feral verge
I still need warp nexus for my trauma
can we ban this guy
no warp nexus on his trauma
smh my head
leaden thunder
rare furnace
the cleave damage cap removed
Ohhh yes
viral solstice
I'm smoking on Bhutanese shadow garden grown dark evil pack
rare furnace
Ohhh yes
And make the blessings that remove cleave for 2 seconds… to pass through armor so you never stop
rare furnace
BecUse you can cleave everything after YOU ALMOST KILL EVERYTHING doesn’t make sense…
And very small window
I hate it
feral verge
i have every t3 perk
blessing i mean
i have one t4 on my illisi. exorcist
but i dont actually have it discovered
rare furnace
If they ever nerf ilisi I uninstall game
leaden thunder
instantly being downed
feral verge
i love that mode
rare furnace
Buff illisi more
feral verge
i wish we could pick and choose modes
rare furnace
Also give it a skin that makes it look bigger
sullen bobcat
Damnation high intensity gauntlet is amazing
spice veldt
let me slap on the obscurus skin on it because why is the model with the spindly ass blade the cleave variant
sullen bobcat
It's such a shitshow, and I'm all for it
feral verge
let me slap on the obscurus skin on it because why is the model with the spindly...
i was thinking the same shit since day 1 of the patch
but i want the deimos skin on it
rare furnace
Actually I would prefer ilisi having the stab ones skin
hollow junco
short question, is there a psyker bug with kinetic barrage ? When I pre charge my brain burst and lock on a target it resets a bit of the charge.
feral verge
visually, deimos looks more like a cutting weapon
feral verge
short question, is there a psyker bug with kinetic barrage ? When I pre charge m...
im not sure, but pre-charging a burst with RMB is kinda finnicky, and its 1 second slower than regular LMB
because of that, i dont use it
radiant lance
Honestly neither Quicken nor Kinetic Barrage feel good to me.
spice veldt
rmb is nice for stealing kills
radiant lance
Anyone having good experience with them?
hollow junco
im not sure, but pre-charging a burst with RMB is kinda finnicky, and its 1 seco...
yeah but I like to pre-charge it when I hear a disabler. When I see it and lock on it, a bit of the charge resets
spice veldt
the speed buff means that I can quickly BB a trapper and whatnot, or I can DPS down a mutant that spawned from across the room
rare furnace
I think we have enough variation in weapons picking but feats become more stale of a better option for dmg
spice veldt
we could use more force staffs
something different than CC this or CC that
like a peril glock
radiant lance
kinetic barrage is nice
My biggest issue with it is that if you activate the ult at full peril, it doesn't actually net you any extra BBs. You can still only do two before you blow up, since two BBs put you at 98% peril.
spice veldt
i usually quell down to 50% and then ult unless I don't need the extra BBs
or if I'm impatient, I'll ult at 50% and manually quell down below 97%
since flayer will still be active
faint vault
What kind of shredder builds are people running these days?
spice veldt
I don't have any horde clear issues so I don't need AB, and quicken dumps your warp charges like a truck so I despise it even with the 2x warp charge gain
I do have issues with specialists and enemies far away, so kinetic barrage is more useful to me in those instances
and I dislike every second that I spend with brainburst out, so I prefer to keep my time with it short
radiant lance
and I dislike every second that I spend with brainburst out, so I prefer to keep...
Yeah...
hollow junco
im not sure, but pre-charging a burst with RMB is kinda finnicky, and its 1 seco...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-dvcBQD7uk tested it out in the meatgrinder if you wanna take a look
radiant lance
I don't have any horde clear issues so I don't need AB, and quicken dumps your w...
You only run in comps?
I mean premades
spice veldt
nah
rare furnace
WHEN ILL GET MY PERILL GUN
spice veldt
I only run pug=bsasfajfasf pubs
spice veldt
oh come on
spice veldt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-dvcBQD7uk tested it out in the meatgrinder if ...
huh that's interesting
definitely something worth posting on the fatshark forums
spice veldt
I mean premades
I don't have hordeclear issues since I reckon that I do pretty fine with the Illisi (and even the pre-patch Obscurus), so I really only have issues at ranged
I also like to keep my warp charges to make my trauma staff reach some breakpoints since its damage stat is somewhat low, and I can't say no to more damage
radiant lance
You only run trauma?
radiant lance
Huh, why is that?
spice veldt
since I believe it to be one of the best staffs to play aggressively against shooteres
it costs less than a BB and charges faster than a BB, so it's useful even if I only hit a single enemy in the epicentre
viral solstice
but all staves other than purg (the useless one) have left click
spice veldt
It has stagger that interrupts shooters from firing for a moment if hit in the outer area, so that's less damage to me and my team
spice veldt
chad bolt projectile
viral solstice
u flik da finga
literally u just stick out one finger
not even using the staff
just
FINGERBLAST
cyan notch
jeremy fire hands better
fresh vessel
What staff and melee do BB builds usually run.
spice veldt
trauma also has that CC against crushers/bulwarks/etc. in case the situation ever gets spotty
fresh vessel
Purg and something fast like tac axe, knife or dueling I think?
spice veldt
BB builds as in a build centered around brain burst?
viral solstice
buttblast
fresh vessel
Yeah, one that invests heavily in Buttblast breakpoints.
radiant lance
@spice veldt What feats do you run?
spice veldt
I run these
Quietude is for the comfiness of being able to regenerate my toughness at any time, and I don't actually lose that much toughness while engaging with shooters to usually require warp absorption
I prefer Psykinetic's Aura + Flayer because I value the CDR more than two more warp charges
fair kayak
I run these
https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-what-is-this-will-ferrell-whats-happening-confused-gif-13872085
ebon stump
what feats would you run if you were using the wide-swings-force-sword and a trauma force staff? i like to play melee focused with the bullet deflection blessing, and bust out the trauma force staff to handle ogryns, maniacs, and thicker hordes
hollow current
bulwarks and crushers are the two only obvious bb targets asides from specials. teammates either delete them or can't kill them to save their life 🤷♂️
radiant lance
what feats would you run if you were using the wide-swings-force-sword and a tra...
Why Trauma staff ogryns instead of just BBing them
ebon stump
you can only BB 1 ogryn at a time
radiant lance
I suppose if they're in mixed hordes and you want control
river sand
What staff and melee do BB builds usually run.
BB is a situational gadget like the grenades, nothing to centre a build around
ebon stump
on damnation they come in 4s lol
spice veldt
Yeah, one that invests heavily in Buttblast breakpoints.
If it's that, then anything that covers your other weaknesses is fine. There's not much of a strong meta if the only constraint is that you're picking the BB feats since that doesn't enforce too much of a limit. It's really a "play what you like to play" situation for Psyker.
radiant lance
on damnation they come in 4s lol
Isn't that only on the new modifier?
hollow current
don't they have a patrol of 6 at times?
spice veldt
or I don't see them at all in a mission
ebon stump
yeah 2 crushers and 2 bulwarks are an extremely common group
radiant lance
I thought it was because of the new specials modifier though
spice veldt
they also buffed the # of specialists that can spawn in normal missions iirc
hollow current
I swear I've seen a squad of six crushes a couple of times. just waddling about.
ebon stump
but reduced the number of duplicates that can spawn!
radiant lance
I don't really understand how to get the most out of the Trauma staff tbh. Would appreciate some tips
ebon stump
but yeah i love the trauma force staff because it can knock over anything, can knock over multiple enemies, requires way less vulnerable channeling time than the surge staff, and kicks ass in hordes unlike surge
hollow current
i use this for trauma
ebon stump
the only thing you can't do with the trauma staff is use it constantly. if you want that versatility you gotta be comfy with melee and quick-swapping
god that's amazing
hollow current
trauma is fun but all its stats except for quell speed are important.
fading heath
Buy?
ebon stump
i'd suck any dick for a good trauma staff. i've been grinding for ages and my best trauma staff is still base 320
spice veldt
damage is a dumpstat on trauma if you have at least 60% damage
you could also argue for warp res if you run quietude and have warp flurry to reach 4 charged blasts from 0% to 100%
hollow current
yeah damage is a second dump stat.
fading heath
i dont know what blessing one wants on this sword
hollow current
but not ideal obviously. but for some reason i can never get quell speed to dump on the high bases I pick
still hearth
Why dump damage
hollow current
per full charge it's like 1 point of damage difference to 1 %
spice veldt
without warp charges or warp unleashed, you only need +25% unarmoured to reach breakpoints on dreg bruisers from 60% damage (360 * 1.25 = 450)
for flak enemies, stalkers only have 360 hp
ebon stump
i dont know what blessing one wants on this sword
anything for weakpoints would be easy to profit from on the Mk IV fs
spice veldt
once you hit those scab/dreg breakpoints, nothing else particularly matters for me in regards to the damage of the trauma staff
hollow current
but with high charge rate, warp res and blast radius you can suppress and kill shooters pretty well. It's just getting warp flurry going that's a bit tough
spice veldt
I'd say that you should learn how big the outer area of the trauma staff is
it's quite large
agile garden
what is the consensus about the new weapons? illusi is best?
still hearth
Yes.
spice veldt
test in the meatgrinder and do some blasts near shooters
hollow current
the stumble aoe is pretty large while the salsa aoe is small-medium
ebon stump
is illusi the wide swings force sword?
still hearth
Yeah
ebon stump
yeah the illusi legit feels better than the power sword
i used to feel like i was inting taking psyker into damnation but with either of the new swords i feel like i can clutch and carry like zealot
feral verge
Illisi is amazing with low warp resist
You can it to quickly and easily gain peril
For getting toughness from quietitude and getting damage from warp unleashed
ebon stump
yeah i love pairing trauma with illusi because of how fast trauama builds peril
feral verge
It's a peril generating machine
41% peril resist on mine
3 charges and I'm at max peril DMG stacks
From warp unleashed and unstable power
ebon stump
how much damage is it tho
feral verge
It has full DMG stats
ebon stump
i'm too lazy to spend time on the maths in this game, i just wanna rip and tear
nah i mean how much bonus damage do you get
from the peril
still hearth
All of it
feral verge
25% warp unleashed + 20% unstable power + 24% warp battery with 6 stacks
topaz sable
After several games of hi-int shock troops I'm firmly in favor of running WB + KB now, it's too useful against elites
that or most vets are bad and not doing their job
ebon stump
i do think that most vets are bad
feral verge
In my experience, yea
Poor situational awareness + obliviousness
The only thing I can say in defense is
Vet is the most popular class
So naturally you'll see more players on vet
ebon stump
makes sense
feral verge
So it's more likely to encounter noobs
That said vet is the most popular cuz it's the easiest/most straight forward
So it's a noob magnet
ebon stump
i guess it's probably good that the straightforward class is there
but the other three are so COOL
feral verge
Ogryn, followed by psyker are the rarest because they're harder/more complex
ebon stump
until last patch psyker was weakest by far, too
hollow current
I ran into Psykers a lot in damnation even before the update
kind jay
I've been getting more ogryns lately in t5 and it's nice
hollow current
was more uncommon to get a game where i was the only one
ebon stump
yeah on damnation it's weird to not have a purg staff
gilded viper
Feel like ogryn was the most unpopular class from my experience pre patch
ebon stump
i think purg is boring as hell though
feral verge
Purga by itself can be a bit boring
What I find a lot of fun tho is ascendant blaze
I main purga. Damn only
I like waiting for the perfect time/position to let AB loose
And watch all the gunners, snipers, shotgunners melt in the kill feed
ebon stump
I've been getting more ogryns lately in t5 and it's nice
yeah i ALMOST finished chasm logistratum hi-int shock troop gauntlet with 2 ogryns and 2 psykers yesterday. the ogryns were awesome with the improved ripper and new clubs
feral verge
Or watch me get all 6 stacks of charges back because I nuked a horde
gilded viper
Slowly debating on using quicken, I use ult a bit too much
leaden thunder
I like it
gilded viper
But getting back charges on gun psyker after ult would be the only annoying part, that and losing kb
kind jay
yeah i ALMOST finished chasm logistratum hi-int shock troop gauntlet with 2 ogry...
they also tend to teamwork more than vets
i had a stubber, a ripper, and a flamer zealot in a hi5 and it was just nonstop dakka
ebon stump
sounds like a dream
sour bison
hmmmm
velvet crescent
morning, fellas
rain saddle
feral verge
Devil's claw lol
rain saddle
you joke but they get the best cleave and dmg blessings
spice veldt
too bad that they simultaneously have this cleave distribution
summer prairie
if they got slaughterer maybe
spice veldt
for comparison, here's the sweeping heavy of a force sword
feral verge
I'd use a grey illisi over a legendary devil's claw
vast rover
Do different staff types share unlocked blessings? Like if you extract a level four blessing from, say, a surge staff, can you then apply it to purgatus/void/trauma as well?
fierce sinew
no
feral verge
Do different staff types share unlocked blessings? Like if you extract a level f...
Unfortunately no
fierce sinew
they have different blessing pools
vast rover
Oof. Okay. Good to know though, thank you both.
feral verge
Yw sibling
spice veldt
even with 200% cleave from savage sweep and the higher base cleave giving it 22.5 cleave on their sweeping heavies, a Force Sword with t4 slaughterer and t4 unstable power at max stacks has an equivalent damage output
the devil's claw doing at most 1123.6 damage across 23 poxwalkers, and the force sword doing 1168.2 damage across 11 poxwalkers
and that's only counting bodyshot damage
shadow quail
have any new staffs been leaked/mined?
feral verge
have any new staffs been leaked/mined?
Staph infection
summer prairie
There are three different templates for trauma and two for purg, so probably planned to have variants for them at least
shadow quail
There are three different templates for trauma and two for purg, so probably pla...
That would be nice.
feral verge
Purga staff has a unique model for the fire wastes skin
Similar to how the fire wastes skin on obscurus force sword used a recolored illisi model
leaden thunder
blew my self up twice
haven't doen that in a while
not used to the peril gen on the truama
feral verge
Ban this guy
leaden thunder
also the second time I joined into a high int shock trooper
that shit is like
not fun
or it is idk
leaden thunder
it's like fun in a cancer way
feral verge
I've had 5 or so games. All losses save for one lol
leaden thunder
i have had 2
one was actually really close
but we got the worst beast spawn ever
and this on it was only 3 of us
feral verge
I took the least damage, at 1k. Says alot
spice veldt
I like it because I get to whack enemies who take 3x melee damage
feral verge
Nice
spice veldt
hishock damn
feral verge
hishock damn
You mussat? That's the highest dmg I've ever seen
feral verge
From anybody
spice veldt
that's the highest that I've ever gotten
feral verge
Not just psyket
spice veldt
the most comparable would be the 620k that I got from another game
feral verge
Trauma?
spice veldt
trauma + illisi
illisi did most of the work
one player left and got replaced by 's', which was a recon lasgun vet
feral verge
Trauma fucks
leaden thunder
2.4k ammo pick up
spice veldt
best staff
leaden thunder
leaden thunder
it's a thonking man's staff
feral verge
Smh my head
spice veldt
self-bonk yourself with the staff special
gaunt stone
Boo trauma boo
feral verge
spice veldt
Boo trauma boo
ur boo
spice veldt
it's a fun staff with the caveat that it fucking throws groaners and poxwalkers all over the place
flurry + focused channeling
feral verge
Trauma and void are tied as my 2nd fav staves
spice veldt
I've specced my trauma staff to be anti-shooter
gaunt stone
Yeah I can't stand things getting tossed everywhere
spice veldt
I avoid using my trauma for hordeclear and stick to using my melee
but I do want to use the trauma staff for launching groaners/poxwalkers without griefing my team
more claustrophobic maps like hab dreyko where you have to keep on moving
gaunt stone
Fair I love surge and illisi
feral verge
I run purga and illisi
gaunt stone
I feel like they complement eachother really well
Stun the elites slash the hordes
Suppress gunners
So your team can rush them
spice veldt
i used to run surge + melee early on as a psyker as an anti-shooter build
though I didn't very much like it against mixed hordes
gaunt stone
Got ya I add ascendant blaze for the mixed hordes
gaunt stone
Yee
weary palm
what do y'all reckon?
weary palm
yeah that single target is kinda painful
spice veldt
if you must choose, then the right one
weary palm
i'd save melkcoins until 30
late yew
thanks
weary palm
speaking of melk 💀
feral verge
Wait till 30
hollow current
speaking of melk 💀
🤮
feral verge
T3 blessings are p easy to come by
fierce sinew
I mean you spend milkies on good t4 blessings regardless of level
hollow current
Warp flurry and Transfer Peril at T4 would be good buys for void
hollow current
warp flurry for any stave in general
lethal folio
Warp Nexus is fine on surge.
feral verge
Warp flurry and warp nexus is bis for surge
weary palm
gotcha
autumn smelt
lets see what it rolls with as i upgrade it
and its blessings are mid as fuck
ill still use it for now cuz its better than what i had but like
damn...
fiery atlas
logging on to darktide to spam illisi gunker 
calm sapphire
Can anyone give me some tips on how to be a better psyker?
fiery atlas
Can anyone give me some tips on how to be a better psyker?
practice your fundamentals and always spam brainblast
calm sapphire
practice your fundamentals and always spam brainblast
Is there a way to lessen the screaming from peril?
autumn smelt
ive learned that the small movement and dodge techs are really useful on psyker
weary palm
Is there a way to lessen the screaming from peril?
yes they patched an option in
fiery atlas
Is there a way to lessen the screaming from peril?
venting
spice veldt
Options > Interface > Peril FX
fiery atlas
oh yeah
spice veldt
the fact that it defeans the noises around fucks it for me
calm sapphire
don't really mind the screaming tbh
I get headaches sometimes
autumn smelt
i hate it cuz it sometimes causes me to miss audio cues
spice veldt
I've gotten pounced because I couldn't hear the damn dog
spice veldt
nice roleplay
fiery atlas
nice roleplay
yeah i'm the erp master
spice veldt
Can anyone give me some tips on how to be a better psyker?
without any specific information, I can only say to try to play to live and run away from fights if needed. Don't force yourself to rescue teammates unless you want to do it, and learn to melee as the bare minimum
fiery atlas
electric role player
calm sapphire
without any specific information, I can only say to try to play to live and run ...
thanks for the tip
fiery atlas
yeah this game is more forgiving in certain parts than others
idle bay
It's sad that there is new about cosmetics in VT2 but not in Darktide. At least i'm a bit happy for VT2 players...
weary palm
bro we just got a 10 weapon patch
spice veldt
positioning can make all the difference
I still hate that section leading up to the midevent of the cryorod map where you have to pass by a train track and go up the stairs near a medicae where enemies can drop in from above
leaden thunder
positioning is pretty key on psyker
more so then other classes I find
at least on staff psyker
spice veldt
though you can always play like a monkey
I run away from the team if I don't have to stick near them
leaden thunder
by positioning is key on staffs I mean like they each have different spots they want to be, to be the most effective
weary palm
what are your secrets to trauma? i feel like a gimped conflag user
spice veldt
i use my trauma like a gun that has a lot of suppression
use it to either wipe out clumps of shooters or use it to interrupt their volleys so that I can run at them and whip out my melee
trauma also depends on the map section
leaden thunder
that + horde clear if you use it right
it also can damage pretty much any target
which is very helpful in mixed hordes
spice veldt
100% damage against every armor type except infested
autumn smelt
also any tips for both elite related penances aside from "play shock trooper missions"
leaden thunder
get lucky
spice veldt
play commsplex
idle bay
bro we just got a 10 weapon patch
I just want to throw some cash in the direction of Fatshark, and they don't allow me 😦
spice veldt
the midevent spams gunners and shotgunners at you
autumn smelt
play commsplex
the one that ends in you sending a message with the satellite?
spice veldt
yup
autumn smelt
i can see that
spice veldt
the one in throneside and not on that desert map
weary palm
also any tips for both elite related penances aside from "play shock trooper mis...
also kinetic barrage to make it possible
late yew
Quititude is t he best level 5 feat right?
weary palm
ive had good luck with heal on warp charge
autumn smelt
also kinetic barrage to make it possible
yeah all of my feats are currently set to make brain bursts happen as fast as possible with as much dmg as possible
spice veldt
i wouldn't say quietude is the best, but it's very comfy to me
weary palm
it got better this patch too
fierce sinew
I'd say it's the best now
autumn smelt
i should probably start using that one
weary palm
huh not bad for an emp gift
autumn smelt
considering you can basically just regen free toughness
fierce sinew
essence harvest had a place on max charge generation communion+AB builds before, but quietude is just too juiced now
autumn smelt
does it include passive idle quelling?
fierce sinew
yes
autumn smelt
thats busted as fuck
fierce sinew
yes
autumn smelt
my eyes have been officially opened
fierce sinew
It turns your battle meditation procs and shout into big burst toughness regen
one of which is on a button
autumn smelt
thats quite good
spice veldt
charge rate is less than ideal
weary palm
ye
spice veldt
but it's good nuff if's that's what you have
weary palm
this is at melk's but i'm not big on these perks
spice veldt
or that quell speed f
weary palm
eh i don't really care about quell speed personally
autumn smelt
for the PoW elite kill penance what situation is best to look for? just a fuck ton of ragers?
idle bay
Perks are borked.
still hearth
Depends on what you enjoy
Ascendant Blaze is good.
Barrage is good.
Quicken is kind of less good imo.
weary palm
Is it considered to be soulblaze?
yes
still hearth
Then based on that you can either build for BB or more Purg stuff.
inland sand
no
still hearth
Wildfire isn't great with Purg
weary palm
hell no lol
still hearth
Because it has a cap
inland sand
all 3 talents are viable with Purg, Wildfire is probably the least good
weary palm
you already put out fire
still hearth
Its better to combo with AB if you can't get blaze from anywhere else.
Since then you can spread it out more
weary palm
i'd probably stick with a normal build for fast bb's since you have no range
inland sand
i personally don't like AB
timid storm
Nah wildfire purg is good. The fire spreads so far, plus, if you have 2 choke points, you briefly spray one, and any kills your team gets will spread it too
still hearth
Its okay.
inland sand
if ur wildfire is getting value then your team probably sucks
fierce sinew
AB is "I haven't heard a damage voiceline in a minute and would like to"
still hearth
How do you need warp charges
timid storm
Wildfire gives purg a much larger range. It doesnt really help with damage, but it weakens all enemies and your team can take them out way easier
weary palm
6 charges and warp resist per stack is my crack cocaine
timid storm
Thats what I used to run, but im having so much fun with wildfire
inland sand
I honestly like Kinetic Flayer and Barrage with Purgatus.
timid storm
I run into a new zone and the enemies are already burning and dying
inland sand
6 WC is also good but feels like the one u run with AB
timid storm
6 stacks is way better for damage, but wildfire is like the opposite where it's breadth
still hearth
Sure, its just not as reliable in my eyes.
fierce sinew
6 charges is the best pretty much for free, when people recommend anything else I feel like I'm being gaslit
like we can't be playing the same game
timid storm
6 is definitely the most consistently good
still hearth
But I think 6 stacks would've been better.
But I just didn't want to bother with BBing more than necessary
summer prairie
6 stacks is meh without ab
timid storm
6 stacks is an extra 8% damage
inland sand
agree
timid storm
Plus warp resist
still hearth
8% stacked with power is sometimes nice
inland sand
like it makes fuck all difference for SB ticks
timid storm
Yeah 6 is good regardless
still hearth
And also you get 10% more on elites
summer prairie
+8% inconsistent damage from a feat isn't great
still hearth
"Inconsistent"
summer prairie
Yes
weary palm
how
still hearth
Just BB
timid storm
I dont think im ever below 6 stacks
still hearth
timid storm
It's so consistent
fierce sinew
more damage is always better, you'd have to come up with a really specific (and probably bad) setup to not get any breakpoint/ttk benefit
summer prairie
If you have to BB during a fight just to keep stacks up you are losing dps
More damage is often just more overkill
timid storm
You should be using BB mid fight anyway to take out elites
inland sand
more damage is always better, you'd have to come up with a really specific (and ...
this isn't true unless it hits a meaningful breakpoint
still hearth
Meaningful breakpoints are
summer prairie
Record your run and see how often you drop below 6 stacks
still hearth
"Doing more damage"
timid storm
Unless youre in a horde, BB is your priority
still hearth
Well if you run 4 stacks
You'd also drop below 4 stacks
So you lose the same value
timid storm
Record your run and see how often you drop below 6 stacks
Unless im in one of those deadzones, i dont
fierce sinew
this isn't true unless it hits a meaningful breakpoint
what I'm saying is that you'd be hard pressed to find a setup where 8% power doesn't hit any
still hearth
Except you're already lower
magic burrow
I tried a quicken build and it was okay. Works decently with a Purgatus or Shredder.
summer prairie
Then you have 5-3 probably
timid storm
Im constantly at 6
still hearth
I guess. But I use BB very often unless there's a specific reason not to
There's often distant enemies
Or Elites/Specials
timid storm
I gain toughness on stack, bb frequently, run the perk that gives me stacks from team kills
still hearth
In a horde then sure, you'd drop to 5 stacks sometimes.
summer prairie
I don't use BB much when I've void flurry stacks up
You'll definitely drop to 4 and lower without passive warp charge sources
magic burrow
I wish voidstrike acctivated flayer
leaden thunder
it should
still hearth
Why wouldn't it
magic burrow
Ive never seen it activate. I was under the impression trauma and void dont proc it. Secondary attacks, that is.
fierce sinew
so you need to be using neither AB nor communion which maintain stacks without BB, but also not using aura+barrage that makes BBing for stacks efficient and easy
summer prairie
Which is kind of nice
fierce sinew
so pretty much to make 6 charges bad you need to be playing a frankenstein mental pretzel of a build already
summer prairie
Since it's more likely to proc on an elite
spice veldt
a very neat consequence
wet belfry
Is focused channeling tier 4 only?
summer prairie
T2
spice veldt
focused channeling should be t2?
inland sand
2 i think
still hearth
It's only one tier, at least.
fierce sinew
focused is 2, run n gun is 3
spice veldt
cant believe run n gun is higher up in the hierarchy
weary palm
run n gun 
fierce sinew
I can, it's better
spice veldt
no >:(
still hearth
You can Run 'n' Gun
spice veldt
i disrespectfully disagree
wet belfry
I think ive upgraded over 10 items by now without seeing focusing channeling
fierce sinew
10
summer prairie
Just wait until the shop has one
fierce sinew
talk to me with another zero on the end there friend
wet belfry
I probably will need to get 3 moar
magic burrow
I made a quicken build where you play as a support, primarily targeting annoying/high value targets with brainburst, and swap to purgatus during hordes etc. It works pretty well, but brainburst feels kind of wonky for some reason? I dont know if anyone else has that issue, but it just feels different since the patch and I cant put my finger on it.
clear heath
the sound effects is different
still hearth
It is wonky.
clear heath
they removed the cracking noise
still hearth
But it was always wonky.
clear heath
now i literally can't tell if i got a kill unless i look at crosshair indicator
still hearth
I love Quicken but idk if its really worth it
I kind of want to run Barrage now with better BB
timber shale
is unstable power's description wrong, or is it really only 5% power? I seem to remember hearing it stacks
still hearth
It stacks
timber shale
ty
still hearth
Its just written poorly
fierce sinew
20 40 60 80
spice veldt
classic fatshark description
clear heath
the description is really bad
fierce sinew
bad fatshark tooltip
spice veldt
fire frenzy be like
magic burrow
I love Quicken but idk if its really worth it
it's worth it if you enjoy playing as the dovahkin and yell FUSRODAH everytime you ult
clear heath
for me to run quicken, it'd have to be a build that doesn't care about AB or brain burst all that much
which narrows it down a lot
still hearth
BB is the way to run Quicken for me
summer prairie
But why
wet belfry
Imange if we actually had the shotgun
still hearth
Though Flayer + Communion also worked well
wet belfry
we could stack no respite with our abillty
clear heath
I like KB for brain burst
still hearth
Because its more reliable than Barrage and lets me open up space to BB targets
summer prairie
Just to stagger?
clear heath
Well and for quietude spamming
still hearth
That too
clear heath
idk maybe i'd run it with voidstrike? I don't think it generates enough peril to care though
still hearth
Idk it felt nice to use.
spice veldt
cringe chat macros on ability activation
**UWU ACTIVATED**
still hearth
And half the time people just suck enough that I still outperform them
Even if I run a shitty build
fierce sinew
is shout stagger for pinning fire purposes?
still hearth
Should be
fierce sinew
that's all I can think of doing with quicken