Surge needs some buffs but otherwise it's all good
#psyker-class
still hearth
steel flame
At least surge excels at the job it's meant for
golden tartan
the only use for kinetic deflection is the parry
But muh peril
How do i get to 100%
leaden thunder
Jo your sword
vale viper
yes
cyan notch
special spam is probably a bug too
still hearth
Just a wave of stun
ember hornet
some times a get a little excited and end up going bang when I keep stroking my sword
cyan notch
fix that shit
viral solstice
legalise nuclear bombs
steel flame
Do not listen to this crabs heretic propaganda. Clearly it is an agent of slaanesh
cursive crest
It is so funny to just watch FS fails so badly with their code at each updates, even screwing up things that didnt change.
1 update =1 or more hotfix, everytime
still hearth
Make special spam work on all swords
solemn zenith
Question, I assume different means completely different enemies, like tox flamer, dog, gunner, maniac, ogryn?
still hearth
You can already do it if you weapon swap
leaden thunder
ember hornet
Question, I assume different means completely different enemies, like tox flamer...
5 gunners works
solemn zenith
5 gunners works
Even though it says different?
steel flame
Question, I assume different means completely different enemies, like tox flamer...
Nah. As long as it's 5 it don't matter what they are
FATSHARK sucks at descriptions
spice veldt
just overly specific wording for no reason
solemn zenith
I see I see
steel flame
You'll get used to it
ember hornet
I got mine by restarting hab dreyko until there were 5 elites I could see from the beginning
leaden thunder
it's either overly specific and wrong
still hearth
(no you wont)
leaden thunder
or it's super vague and wrong
steel flame
Yeah.....
still hearth
You'll just be less surprised
spice veldt
i thought I was overly pedantic when I noticed that "different" in the description, but I feel validated now that so many people get hung up on the description
still hearth
You never get fully uses to it
ember hornet
I'll be honest I never even processed the word different
I saw 5 elites and 12 seconds
spice veldt
the one time where skimming is better
steel flame
I think the different is referring to 5 different elites, as in doing bb on the same elite twice doesn't count as two
But that's just confusing
ember hornet
yeah but you aren't gonna kill the same elite 5 times
steel flame
Ya never know with nurgle
ember hornet
unless they add a fallen shaman
still hearth
ember hornet
now I'm hearing "rakanishu" in my head for some reason
spice veldt
fake news
viral solstice
i love casting spells
shy prairie
all I do all day is cast spells
fallow meadow
What is the new FS good for?
The stabby one seem to just do the same amount of damage than the normal one.
The horde killing is a one use power sword?
spice veldt
deimos' second heavy has big damage
still hearth
Yeah I agree
leaden thunder
moveset felt like ass to me
spice veldt
damn does no one like light->heavy combos
leaden thunder
I don't like having to reset it
spice veldt
i like having to reset it since it incentivizes you to push and whatnot
it naturally makes you play safely
viral solstice
and u probably arent smoking the necromancer kush
cyan notch
damn does no one like light->heavy combos
its fine but even that is too slow sometimes
viral solstice
i dont even know any more
fallow meadow
So this is not about the special attack on deimos. Funny sword.
viral solstice
the phrase "nuclear levels of sour" might apply
cyan notch
i get hit between charging heavy sometimes
spice veldt
that's true
light quail
Obscurus sucks now
tbh give that shit deflector as base
perfect way to make it hold its own vs the new ones
spice veldt
sometimes i just spammed the 1st light whenever I was surrounded
at least the illisi has a true horizontal as its 1st heavy
still hearth
tbh give that shit deflector as base
perfect way to make it hold its own vs the ...
But the others have that already
light quail
and obscurus doesn't?!?@
still hearth
Yes
light quail
huh
still hearth
It's definitely unintended
But also deflector isn't worth it imo
Even if Obscurus was the only one that got it for free
viral solstice
fledector
still hearth
You have infinite dodges
fallow meadow
The motion loop on Obscurus was the biggest factor on why I gave up on it.
cyan notch
why in the world would anyone think theyll just give obscurus deflector for free
spice veldt
it felt fine to me besides the block visual being annoying to look at
cyan notch
u think theyre gonna give achlys caxe bm for free?
viral solstice
are u saying its silly for ppl to expect fatshark to do something that makes no sense
cyan notch
IT AINT HAPPENING PEOPLE
viral solstice
think about it
its like assassins jorts
nothing is forbidden
everything is possible
spice veldt
maybe that'll make achlys good
cyan notch
it felt fine to me besides the block visual being annoying to look at
theres a mod for it now
spice veldt
ye
fallow meadow
I hate deflector. Can't see shit while blocking.
viral solstice
tbf
spice veldt
shame it doesn't block the sound but it seems that the modmaker is also working on that
spice veldt
when i run around the tree
viral solstice
why is it that i played hundreds of hours and never felt the need to block
fallow meadow
Sometime blocking range is handy.
viral solstice
because i have dodge
spice veldt
i just stare up at the sky and dodge around the tree while blocking
viral solstice
and big booty
still hearth
Crab you literally parry
spice veldt
i have small booty and dodging is not safe for me because of god damn running attacks
viral solstice
yes but u dont parry defensively
still hearth
And block while doing so
viral solstice
u parry for the memes
cyan notch
"damn i wish i could block rn"
when im standing in front of the guy at doing the commsplex interrogator vs shooters across the room
viral solstice
like nobody is going
still hearth
Lies
spice veldt
the memes defend me
viral solstice
"damn i wish i had devils claw to protect myself"
still hearth
viral solstice
thonk about it
still hearth
I bet u do
spice veldt
nobody is going
"damn I wish i had devils claw" either tbf
viral solstice
no i go "i wish i had devils claw because my whole team is dead and i want to stunt on this one enemy while they are spectating"
the gentlemens reason
cyan notch
ive saved people doing near suicidal resses by blocking bullets for them too
viral solstice
and u taught them to do it again in the future
ur literally teaching the kids wrong
thats fucked up dude
spice veldt
my teammates can go fuck themselves if they're reviving under ranged fire
ornate hamlet
Gave psyker a break, came back and now I love purgation and blaze sword together
Feels strange
cyan notch
if they fuck themselves then theres 2 people looking at the floor and now soon to be 3 and then i have to clutch
viral solstice
facts: if u help ur team ever ur encouraging dependency and bad play
cyan notch
i love clutching but i love plasteel more
cyan notch
NEVER LOSE A MISSION EVER!!!
fallow meadow
Melee on psyker is very much "a pretty sword which let me run fast" for me in most case.
fallow meadow
Caxe is an exception.
viral solstice
im just cranky because i realised i want a pizza
but i dont have a pizza
how fucked up is that
spice veldt
why dont u
still hearth
Deimos and Illisi are now exceptions too
spice veldt
just get a pizza
cyan notch
still hearth
Insane weapons
ancient ivy
So uh. Is BB waking up daemon hosts if you use it on other targets like 20m away from her a known bug?
fallow meadow
We need force pizza cutter.
cyan notch
So uh. Is BB waking up daemon hosts if you use it on other targets like 20m away...
never happened to me before
i kill stuff beside her sometimes
spice veldt
i think it's happened to me? not sure if i BBed the DH or the enemy near it though
can't ever tell
viral solstice
i mean if ur worried about waking her up just brainburst her directly to guarantee it
not a big problem
ancient ivy
bbing enemies near daemonhosts does wake them up
Watch this then
cyan notch
wake them up as in make them to into attack state?
ancient ivy
never happened to me before
I saw it happen to a psyker the other day. And it just happened to me
spice veldt
testing in the psyk, it doesn't put them into attack state
but it does wake them up from their laying down position
that seems like the ogryn doing it maybe
ancient ivy
but it does wake them up from their laying down position
okay but if they're already upright, do they attack?
ancient ivy
that seems like the ogryn doing it maybe
No because it aggro'd me. Thats how it works.
cyan notch
I saw it happen to a psyker the other day. And it just happened to me
gotta see a longer clip
did u alert it before?
spice veldt
maybe BBing enemies does do a little bit of aggro
ancient ivy
gotta see a longer clip
k on sec I'll clip it differntly
spice veldt
and since the DH was already nearly aggroed?
viral solstice
she has a system where if shes irritated minor shit will set her off
like when ur already grumpy
cyan notch
it has a chunk of hp gone so someone definitely shot it or something
viral solstice
y u upsetting her when shes having a bad day
ornate hamlet
maybe shed wake up better if she slept on a bed instead of fucking pavement and metal sheets
viral solstice
ornate hamlet
Daemonhosts are a mandatory kill if you have 2 zealots in your party
leaden thunder
there are benchs in throneside
ancient ivy
Here is the long version where you can see me fumbling my controls as I relearn psyker lol
viral solstice
one day the crude biomass u call a temple will wither
and u will beg my kind to save u
but i am already saved
for im going to get a bag of salt and vinegar crisps
fallow meadow
1 zealot will be enough if he/she know how to do it.
cyan notch
who did damage to her
viral solstice
Society.
leaden thunder
the only thing I see is an ogryn shot right as she wakes up
can't some enemies wake up dhs
golden tartan
Here is the long version where you can see me fumbling my controls as I relearn ...
Are you running wildfire
golden tartan
Theres also some ways to make BB affect nearby enemies
ancient ivy
Heres a bunch of frames. in a row. She aggros between the visual effect of BB, and the kill marker. The timing is sus. Its def me doing something...
viral solstice
u know what it could be
ancient ivy
Theres also some ways to make BB affect nearby enemies
Not runnin any of em
viral solstice
ur client disagrees with server abotu what ut argeted
server says u bbed daemonhost
client says u bbed rifle guy
ancient ivy
????
ancient ivy
Crab
viral solstice
ancient ivy
Since she wakes up from flashlights
She wakes up from em but she does not aggro from flashlights.
golden tartan
She wakes up from em but she does not aggro from flashlights.
what ranged weapon are you running
ancient ivy
what ranged weapon are you running
Purg
cyan notch
hard to tell without an even longer clip way before she even gets up from the floor
viral solstice
did u duct tape a torch to ur staff tho
cyan notch
someone shot a chunk of her health away
viral solstice
modded doom 3 version of psyker
golden tartan
Purg
Are you running wildfire
Hm
Are you running ascendant blaze
Cos its clear you fired off a F right before the initial start
Im just wondering if fire could have bounce to the DH somehow
ancient ivy
someone shot a chunk of her health away
It is possible to whack the daemon host without aggroing it btw
summer prairie
you can even BB her once
spice veldt
chunking the DH's HP makes them much more aggroed
ancient ivy
So it could have lost thank cunk from the wakeup not the aggro.
leaden thunder
I think either an enemy did something or it bugged
ancient ivy
I think either an enemy did something or it bugged
Thats what I'm syaing I think bug
cyan notch
did u bb the dh to wake her up initially
golden tartan
So it could have lost thank cunk from the wakeup not the aggro.
I wonder if you Fed her
Which put blaze on her
which took its own sweet time aggroing her
ancient ivy
I wonder if you Fed her
I did F in her direction but we can see later that she has no soulblaze VFX
golden tartan
Maybe the suppression from the ogryn gun procced her but cos u Fed her she counts u as doing most damage to her?
ancient ivy
Also shes in the awake state for a decent chunk of time so if it was that I'm not sure it makes sense
spice veldt
the daemonhost doesn't seem to have any burning vfx just testing in the meatgrinder
ancient ivy
Maybe the suppression from the ogryn gun procced her but cos u Fed her she count...
Suppression shouldnt do that...
ancient ivy
the daemonhost doesn't seem to have any burning vfx just testing in the meatgrin...
Oh whacky.
summer prairie
she's probably burning, she is trashing around a lot before the trigger
golden tartan
Suppression shouldnt do that...
Suppression and stagger def can trigger DH
cyan notch
yea pretty hard to tell without like a longer clip from the start
spice veldt
yeah firing near the DH can also make her awake
ancient ivy
BTW those heads flying off on the left are what the ogg is shooting. He has a gorgon so its not a stray bullet thats for sure.
golden tartan
Gorgy also has a MASSIVE suppression radius
ancient ivy
yeah firing near the DH can also make her awake
I thought that was just with AoE weapons like bolter and GG
ancient ivy
golden tartan
Requires quite a fair bit of it
Same for stagher
U dont actually need to do any damage
sharp ibex
ancient ivy
the daemonhost doesn't seem to have any burning vfx just testing in the meatgrin...
Oh can you just test of 6 stack AB ult can aggro her or if thats prevented
golden tartan
Lasguns generally have low suppression so u have to actively try to proc her with lasgun suppression
spice veldt
i applied some soulblaze stacks onto her and she gets aggroed after taking a certain amount of damage
but i'll test if 6 stacks AB can purely do that
leaden thunder
I didn't check my melk last night
ancient ivy
idk tho the TIMING of my BB is weirding me out about it
leaden thunder
I guess I am gonna farm melk contract today
got sluaghterer 4 for fs in my shop
golden tartan
idk tho the TIMING of my BB is weirding me out about it
Causes u to gain warp charge
Which increases power
😛
Or was it damage
spice veldt
6 stacks AB without any damage boosts isn't enough to wake her up
ancient ivy
Causes u to gain warp charge
why would that make her aggro instantly lol
spice veldt
time to test with warp unleashed
ancient ivy
6 stacks AB without any damage boosts isn't enough to wake her up
Well thats prolly why she starts chunked then.
golden tartan
why would that make her aggro instantly lol
Might increase ur burn damage
spice veldt
though 6 stacks AB is enough to make her very aggroed
ancient ivy
I actually gain the charge from the BB the frame after her HP shows up
But I has 1 charge for a while before that
Maybe I just blame the zealot somehow and move on 
spice veldt
good idea
shy prairie
the zealot, chastising the wicked towards the daemonhost with a charged thrust IV thunderhammer
uneven drift
Nothing wrong in this sentence.
shy prairie
uneven drift
See heretic? Purge heretic!
ancient ivy
If you have a thrust 4 thammer you get to wake up hosts and I will clap from the sidelines. Otherwise I hate you.
cold geode
Good night psyker chat, see you tomorrow.
spice veldt
good riddance
olive ember
cyan notch
no but we have psyker power sword
cyan notch
psyker is the best its ever been rn
vestal rose
thats like the opposite of what i wanted
spice veldt
we got big buffs
vestal rose
yo really
cyan notch
a little too damn good if u ask me
ancient ivy
thats like the opposite of what i wanted
Its not a P sword lol. Its a force sword that gives the p sword a run for its money
spice veldt
warp unleashed now works on all weapons including BB
quell speeds are way faster and the curve for it has been flattened out so you quell the same speed from the start and at the end
spice veldt
passive quell speed is faster
cyan notch
Psyker's been always good yall just suck
nobody said psyker was bad
vestal rose
Psyker's been always good yall just suck
no 2h sword
garbage class
honest frigate
Above
spice veldt
no 2h sword
garbage class
i agree
shy prairie
Is there any data on Exalted -> Transcendant having higher tier blessing weighting?
steel flame
nobody said psyker was bad
Nobody makes up a large percentage of darktide playerbase
ancient ivy
Is there any data on Exalted -> Transcendant having higher tier blessing weighti...
I hear people say it a lot but I've never seen a confirmation, no
spice veldt
haven't see any posted data or spreadsheets about that
vestal rose
Its not a P sword lol. Its a force sword that gives the p sword a run for its mo...
interesting
will have a look i guess, cheers
ancient ivy
interesting
will have a look i guess, cheers
Also a 3rd force sword that rocks hard
spice veldt
shy prairie
if there's nothing in the game files it's going to be sample size of 1000 transcendent upgrades
spice veldt
there's also the deimos force sword which has a stab as its 1st light and another stab as its 2nd heavy
and the stabs do significantly more damage than the usual sweep attacks, similar to Obscurus' 3rd light
cyan notch
if there's nothing in the game files it's going to be sample size of 1000 transc...
yea we are never gonna get that information from datamining
ancient ivy
Prolly server side stuff
cyan notch
probably cheaper to just upgrade to blue tbh
considering its like 2x more expensive to go to orange
3x even
ancient ivy
Regardless I think if the weapon doesnt show promise at blue its almost never worth it to keep going. Bad perk bad blessing? Back to Brunt's
still hearth
Why does the cost to upgrade from blue to purple and purple to gold
Go up in Plasteel
Its so stupid
We have the exact same issue still
shy prairie
cant be having you get too far ahead too quickly..
ancient ivy
I have no issue with it taking time. I do have issue with the randomness.
still hearth
Imagine if two games of Damnation was enough to upgrade a weapon from gray to orange
Instead of making it three and I keep getting way more diamanthine
And also if modifiers gave more crafting mats
still hearth
About 140 + 180 + 400 + 800 something
shy prairie
diamantine despite because the stuff they tip bolter rounds with, and make fortress monastry walls out of - is somehow a less used material than the steel..
still hearth
Not entirely correct
But the plasteel cost is just
???
It goes from 140-ish
To 700-800
And diamanthine is like 150 then 300 I think
ancient ivy
About 140 + 180 + 400 + 800 something
this is if you have a 380 tho right? Cause I think in the 360's I see the last upgrade costing less than 700
vestal rose
how does hadron fit so much plasteel into one sword
still hearth
I don't got the numbers so I'm only going form vague memory
But yeah its affected by rating
But its still too fucking costly
You can upgrade like 4 gray weapons for the same cost to make one orange.
ancient ivy
thats fine t me tbh...
ancient ivy
Like if they fix the locks and rng garbage. I wouldnt mind that it take considerable investment to get something to gold. That part can stay
cyan notch
had i known id just upgrade from grey
still hearth
If we only had to get 380 bases
Then this system would be less garbage
You are correct
ember hornet
i spent 50k plasteel upgrading to orange for bloodthirsty
rip
still hearth
But it would still be garbage
ancient ivy
But it would still be garbage
yeah well the process of getting 380 is not part of it I want to keep lmao. I dont think brunt has EVER given me a 380 anything and I've given him millions and millions. Thats part of the RNG garbgage
still hearth
What I want
Is for them to either embrace the RNG
And uncap all stats
And let me have 380% in damage
And 0% in everything else
Or just make all weapons be 100% base stats.
still hearth
There's no point in this middle of the ground
ember hornet
or 372
still hearth
There's no reason to want a weapon without 80% in all its good stats
And 60% in the bad stat
still hearth
True
Gotta have that 320 base
With 80% in everything except 0% warp resistance
So you get 45% peril on each special
ember hornet
it's beautiful, groaners definitely very valuable
think it's like 27ish% peril per special
ancient ivy
it's beautiful, groaners definitely very valuable
great now rip off t4 sluaght so you can get it on a deimos too
ember hornet
🤔
I just have to roll a perfect deimos with t4 slaughterer
simply roll one
also I think some people sleeping on unstable for those juicy one shots
still hearth
It's not really worth it
ember hornet
how could 1 shotting almost everything not be worth it
still hearth
Because you can just 2 shot almost everything
ancient ivy
how could 1 shotting almost everything not be worth it
Horde game is why
ember hornet
that's twice as bad
are there even any other good blessings
smh you don't even 1 shot bulwarks with your illisi
ember hornet
100% uptime on 20% power kind of good
still hearth
Actually the 8% from the horde thing seems to work for it.
Just rull a T4 slaughterer, T4 Unstable Power Illisi
Actually it shouldn't one-shot unless you get crits on poxwalkers
cyan notch
are there even any other good blessings
nope slaughterer and unstable only
still hearth
Idk why they keep thinking the crit blessings are okay when they give weapons 75% power buffs
olive ember
deflector madge
still hearth
ember hornet
might be able to have a minimum damage of 300 on poxwalkers with full stacks of everything
still hearth
You get 49% bonus damage.
olive ember
Idk why they keep thinking the crit blessings are okay when they give weapons 75...
look crucian was just too powerful
still hearth
So you need to break over 200 damage at least
To oneshot poxwalkers
Unless you have an Ogryn
ember hornet
I feel like it seems higher than 49% cause something is multiplicative
otherwise I couldn't one shot bulwarks
idk
still hearth
Its possible
Someone check how warp charges and WU work
Thanks 
If they're multiplicative with each other then that would just barely let you one-shot Bulwarks on weakspot hits
ember hornet
I can hit a reaper for ~2900-3000
spice veldt
258 minimum damage was the most I did at 100% peril with WU, Unstable Power, 5 slaughterer stacks, and 4 warp charges
ember hornet
I suppose I could test it again real quick
still hearth
Oh yeah
I forgot
10% Elite damage
That should do it
Yeah
You can do up to 2.9k with Illisi thanks to that
On Bulwarks and Reapers
ember hornet
Where's elite damage coming from
still hearth
Psyker
ember hornet
oh
ember hornet
who knew
feral verge
I have infested and maniac on my illisi
still hearth
Yeah its such a tiny bonus
ember hornet
I could do maniac for mutant one shots I guess
still hearth
But it does probably help with some BB breakpoints too
cyan notch
i would definitely do maniac
who the hell needs more zombie damage
its fine if u only kill 49 instead of 50 of em
still hearth
7 instead of 21*
spice veldt
though infested does put you in the one-shot territory
feral verge
I got infested 25% locked in
spice veldt
for me I already do 258 minimum weakspot damage to them, so +infested would push me over to one-shotting them
feral verge
I tried flak on the other perk, but I prefer maniac for my purposes
still hearth
It just feels good to cleave through a horde
spice veldt
i'd probably prefer +maniac and +flak though
spice veldt
gonna put a +infested to see how it goes
feral verge
Mine fucks
Peril/toughness generator + straggler killer
Just wish it had unstable 4
And I want a low peril resist Deimos
spice veldt
free money
fresh reef
I'm trying to learn Deimos, and I'm entirely unsure what to pair it with or what it should be used for
wet jacinth
free money
Power sword vets could never
cyan notch
I'm trying to learn Deimos, and I'm entirely unsure what to pair it with or what...
kills elites and specials
feral verge
free money
It's pretty to look at
fresh reef
kills elites and specials
Right, but how is it doing that better than Obscurus?
wet jacinth
Who knew all psyker needed was better force swords
fresh reef
(Clueless)
spice veldt
mmmm i need to remember to spin around in actual missions
still hearth
Right, but how is it doing that better than Obscurus?
H2 does a billion damage. It has better mobility.
The Obscurus is just a worse Deimos.
feral verge
I'm trying to learn Deimos, and I'm entirely unsure what to pair it with or what...
Deimos is primarily designed as a single target weapon, vs bosses and elites and specials. So, you may want to consider pairing it with purgatus or trauma staves, which are good at horde clear
But you don't always have to follow that rule
lethal folio
Deimos horde clear is good.
ember hornet
free money
ok I think I'll try this lol
feral verge
I'm pairing illisi (the horde clear sword) with purgatus
fresh reef
Deimos is primarily designed as a single target weapon, vs bosses and elites and...
Noted. Got an excuse to grind for a good Trauma lol
spice veldt
you should prob build your trauma staff to be anti-shooter regardless
feral verge
Noted. Got an excuse to grind for a good Trauma lol
Trauma staff fucks
It's the clutch staff
Surge is the crutch staff
Purga is clutch too
Void strike can help prevent clutch situations
If I weren't running my god purga, I'd be running trauma
fresh reef
Trauma staff fucks
I swore by it like a gremlin before the buffs lol
cyan notch
Deimos horde clear is good.
feral verge
Based
summer prairie
how does trauma clutch, maybe if your weapon is bad for clutching and you need space
fresh reef
Just haven't played it in forever cuz Void my beloved
fresh reef
What traits and blessings should I look for?
limber silo
I've had vets get mad that I don't use surge often
Little baby veterans who don't know how to melee
Or dodge muties
feral verge
how does trauma clutch, maybe if your weapon is bad for clutching and you need s...
Knocking hounds off players, wading thru hordes (by aiming at your feet), clearing hordes off of downed players. Shit like that
Staggering elites
spice veldt
how does trauma clutch, maybe if your weapon is bad for clutching and you need s...
the stagger is pretty useful against shooters and buying time even if you don't hit them in the epicentre
summer prairie
that doesn't sound like clutching
spice veldt
on the silo cluster finale for example
feral verge
How
spice veldt
well shotgunners got nerfed actually
feral verge
Those are clutch moments
spice veldt
so that doesn't count anymore
rancid spruce
Anyone tried the new quicken with the toughness regen on warp charges + warp charge proc on ennemy death ?
still hearth
Anyone tried the new quicken with the toughness regen on warp charges + warp cha...
Why would you run Quicken with Essence Harvest
And not Quietitude
feral verge
What traits and blessings should I look for?
Flak + unarmored perks, warp flurry + rending shockwave blessings
cyan notch
yea i acutally havent taken health damage from shotgunners with my normie ass 100 toughness since patch
fresh reef
Those are clutch moments
Uhm actually a clutch just means winning with 3 dead
summer prairie
quicken doesn't help at all with essence harvest
feral verge
Lmao
fresh reef
Flak + unarmored perks, warp flurry + rending shockwave blessings
Unarmored but not infested?
limber silo
I'm not seeing anything being said about trauma that makes it better than purge. Purge has good horde clear, staggers everything except muties with primary. The only thing trauma does better than purge imo is better primary and hurts ogryns well
rancid spruce
It's allowing to gain 2 warp charges per gain occurence, therefore should trigger essence harvest twice.
Just asked if someone tested it, thanks answering like a no
feral verge
Unarmored but not infested?
I don't know the break points off hand, but infested definitely isn't bad on trauma. I think mine has infested tbh. Been so long, I don't remember
fresh reef
If I recall, Trauma already hits unarmored melee trash breakpoint on a full charge
limber silo
Anyone tried the new quicken with the toughness regen on warp charges + warp cha...
Yes, I love it w/ surge and flayer
feral verge
Cuz I've only been playing purga
still hearth
Essence Harvest is only active once.
limber silo
purg also hits ogryns well
Not Crushers
cyan notch
It's allowing to gain 2 warp charges per gain occurence, therefore should trigge...
yea u wish
spice veldt
ah crushers
limber silo
Oh yeah, Trauma doesn't give a fuck about bulwark either, that's pretty nice
spice veldt
i still think that trauma is competitive against shooters
because of the slightly longer targeting range
and stagger
limber silo
I just find the massive suppression radius of purge better
19 meters of "no one is allowed to shoot" in a huge beam is really nice
spice veldt
trauma lets you do stuff like this against shooters, which I find to be the most annoying type of enemies to fight against https://streamable.com/29ef14
fresh reef
I just find the massive suppression radius of purge better
Personally I've found purge gameplay to be insanely boring 
spice veldt
granted that it's on consignment yard and against stalkers
limber silo
Personally I've found purge gameplay to be insanely boring <:Sitgryn:10162694206...
Completely reasonable argument
wet belfry
Its also questionable if you couldn’t just have done the same against those shotters with illisi.
spice veldt
in my experience, it's safer to rush a map with the trauma staff than the purg staff
limber silo
I like setting shit on fire. I'm a Facemelter CRSPR fan in drg, so purge is right up my alley
spice veldt
Its also questionable if you couldn’t just have done the same against those shot...
i could've, but the stagger provided me some safety
notice how the shooters get interrupted from volleying me with each blast
fresh reef
I like setting shit on fire. I'm a Facemelter CRSPR fan in drg, so purge is rig...
Based
Prefer cryo myself
spice veldt
even if I don't hit them in the epicentre
and that's space that my teammates can use to move in as well
limber silo
I've been learning to love cryo again
fresh reef
I've been learning to not hate flamer drillers (it was a skill issue) because temp shock fucks
limber silo
I used nothing but Tuned Cooler for 100+ hours, but now I'm using Ice Spear and I've been enjoying it more
summer prairie
you can do that with purg and surge too though
primal plume
Evil Psyker be like: "YES! INTO MY MIND!"
spice veldt
that's true, but I prefer the AoE stagger
feral verge
Personally I've found purge gameplay to be insanely boring <:Sitgryn:10162694206...
i would too, tbh, but
ascendant blaze
spice veldt
rather than the conal area of the purg and whatever the fuck surge is
summer prairie
purg lmb spam is good aoe and fast
fresh reef
i could've, but the stagger provided me some safety
But they looked unaggro'd, no?
feral verge
i have alot of fun wit that
limber silo
purg lmb spam is good aoe and fast
Shitty hitbox tho
feral verge
i like finding those perfect moments to drop AB with 6 stacks of warp battery
fresh reef
Wouldn't it be better to use melee to kill them outright and move into melee range to suppress the others?
cold oasis
the problem with purge on damnation is simply that if your veteran ain't killing all the rangeds you're gonna feel like a zealot
limber silo
Sometimes I puff shotgunners right in front of me and the puff doesn't touch them at all
fresh reef
Purg M1 hitbox feels unbelievably jank
spice veldt
Wouldn't it be better to use melee to kill them outright and move into melee ran...
just an old habit from when I just got the illisi
limber silo
the problem with purge on damnation is simply that if your veteran ain't killing...
I actually HIGHLY recommend all psykers to learn how to play Zealot. I believe it makes you a better psyker afterwards
limber silo
Teaches you how to stay in melee safely
feral verge
i play worse on zealot than psyker, cuz iit's brain off mode
cold oasis
900 hours of VT2 already taught me
limber silo
90% of random psykers I've observed flop like fishes in melee and need to be carried
fresh reef
90% of random psykers I've observed flop like fishes in melee and need to be car...
Noooo I don't wanna engage in melee combat nooooooo
cold oasis
But honestly, i wish they would make the fucking materials account shared
feral verge
i main thammer on zealot, which is now seen as a bad weapon. i only play damnation
and its so easy
cold oasis
My Psyker is starting to bore me to hell
limber silo
I used to recommend starting w/ a duelling sword since it's decent and safe, but illisi is great now
cold oasis
Every weapon outside of Surge is just meh on damnation
feral verge
i love zelaot, but gameplay can be braindead comapred to psyker
fresh reef
i main thammer on zealot, which is now seen as a bad weapon. i only play damnati...
The first big damage thammer yeah?
feral verge
yes
spice veldt
Wouldn't it be better to use melee to kill them outright and move into melee ran...
here's another reason why I'm using the trauma staff over the illisi
limber silo
i love zelaot, but gameplay can be braindead comapred to psyker
I use Evis + revolver, pretty fun for me still
cyan notch
Teaches you how to stay in melee safely
idk playing ez mode melee with so many buffs doesnt really teach u much
spice veldt
don't underestimate the radius of the outer area of the trauma staff
winged phoenix
limber silo
Mega crit go brrr
feral verge
thammer and bolter, sometimes flamer
fresh reef
here's another reason why I'm using the trauma staff over the illisi
Meanwhile my Illisi generating 30% peril on command lol
limber silo
idk playing ez mode melee with so many buffs doesnt really teach u much
Yes, it's ez mode. But you have freedom to know what's a bad idea and when to take a breather from the melee
spice veldt
my illisi has too much warp res :(
fresh reef
I think I have about 36% warp res on mine
winged phoenix
Oh yeah, hence the meme really
feral verge
ooh
fresh reef
(and I don't use quietude)
cyan notch
Yes, it's ez mode. But you have freedom to know what's a bad idea and when to t...
how do you judge whats a bad idea when youre god mode though
limber silo
Holy shit that sword makes me weak in the knees
cyan notch
then when u play psyker and u dont have god mode youll just get hit more
limber silo
how do you judge whats a bad idea when youre god mode though
If you are a moron Zealot, you drop to 1 and proc your invincibility. Then you can't be a moron anymore. You start playing safer and learn to use you goddamn grenades for space
Also you learn that no matter how tough you are, having enemies on ALL sides is still bad
Positioning is more important for melee than ranged, and Psykers need good positioning to be good
cyan notch
i dont see how playing zealot helps that
just play psyker and go melee to improve ur melee
wet belfry
Would psyker even be defined as a ranged class by now?
viral solstice
but psykers block in melee which proves that playing psyker ruins ur ability to play the bideogame
im sorry there is no salvation
u need to play
limber silo
i dont see how playing zealot helps that
If you get good at the thing psyker can struggle with, then your psyker gameplay improves. Getting good at a bad thing = not bad at the thing anymore
fresh reef
but psykers block in melee which proves that playing psyker ruins ur ability to ...
Kinetic Shield Enjoyers:
wet belfry
The psykers dps is usally strongest while in melee not at ranged.
limber silo
Zealot encourages melee gameplay. So you learn better. Psyker discourages melee because oof, ya got 150 hp and require force attacks to generate toughness
Arguments can be made about Illisi being good for melee, but that is 1 weapon
spice veldt
we still get the same 5% toughness per melee kill
leaden thunder
I mean playing all classes is a good way to get better at all classes
fresh reef
Zealot encourages melee gameplay. So you learn better. Psyker discourages mele...
The logic being that because you don't have an infinite ammo ranged option to fall back on, yeah?
leaden thunder
you know
wet belfry
Psykers can also proc quietiude before fights to gen toughness while in melee.
cyan notch
idk i dont buy it u should just practice for and using the thing you want to get better at
limber silo
The logic being that because you don't have an infinite ammo ranged option to fa...
Also Zealot just benefits from being close to enemies. More toughness regen, can heal off damage, has better more varied melee options
fresh reef
Also Zealot just benefits from being close to enemies. More toughness regen, ca...
Almost like it's a melee class or something
wet belfry
This might just be a regular case of the psykers idenity as a class being all over the place.
spice veldt
i'd probably play psyker to get used to my curios and weapons
most of my difficulty in melee comes from just learning how to use a melee
limber silo
Almost like it's a melee class or something <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Yeah no shit Sherlock, why do think I'm recommending it?
cyan notch
yea and then when u dont have all those free melee on training wheels god mode buffs you just fold like paper on psyker trying to do the same thing
cyan notch
i dont cuz im a beast
viral solstice
which is based
fresh reef
yea and then when u dont have all those free melee on training wheels god mode b...
God mode training wheels
Kinetic Deflection
limber silo
What is twbs?
viral solstice
thy wrath based swift
no stagger no slowdown
the ultimate training wheels
me on zealot
limber silo
Lol
gilded viper
The heal one is the super safety net
limber silo
I just use 80% mobility duelling sword and then nothing can catch me, catchup be damned
gilded viper
Actually just having a "endure" passive just make it possible to do the world dumbest plays and live to tell the story
fresh reef
I just use 80% mobility duelling sword and then nothing can catch me, catchup be...
80 defence 80 mobility dodge go BRRRRR
viral solstice
the ultimate training wheels: the devil claw
it makes the game so easy pls nerf
limber silo
Fr just dodge past the whole map
cyan notch
the ultimate training wheels: the devil claw
yea thats training wheels
IF YOUR WHEELS WERE SQUARE
viral solstice
like i euqip the devil claw
and instantly i become robot gooley man
the spance maren
cyan notch
idk anything about 40k but space marines look goofy as hell
buzzlightyear suits and the dude is just a smol head
limber silo
Mutie charging me: raaaa
Me with dodging once a duelling sword: falls off the cliff 30m away
cyan notch
do people actually think those are cool
hexed wedge
Yes
viral solstice
gilded viper
do people actually think those are cool
I can see the appeal if u got into the series young
limber silo
do people actually think those are cool
Have you seen artwork? I'm more of a necron fan myself, but marines are cool
cyan notch
I can see the appeal if u got into the series young
yea thats what im thinking too cuz people have grown accustomed to it but from an outsiders perspective they look hella goofy
limber silo
gilded viper
But I'm not a 40k fan and I'm barley a war hammer fan, just saw my friend playing that one strategy game and VT2
cyan notch
Have you seen artwork? I'm more of a necron fan myself, but marines are cool
most of what ive seen are from games or cgi trailers etc
limber silo
That's a librarian space marine
gilded viper
I see alot of people who are into make alot of figure that are really cool
hexed wedge
There's a sequence in "Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work" where they have to fire a space marine across space without a ship and so they close all of the vents on his suit. They have to get him across in enough time to stop the marine from overheating
spice veldt
almost? did you find somebody who has it and then ur gonn kill them n then steal their account?
limber silo
There's a sequence in "Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work" where they have to fire ...
Belisarius is cool and I like him, but he looks dumb af
hexed wedge
I love Cawl. He's so based. Commits tech heresy on the regular
gilded viper
limber silo
Would you look like a crab marine?
floral mulch
I've a small quetsiong reagarding the internals workings of one of the feats, T1 Essence Harvest, Does the 30% over 5s proc each time you gain a warp charge or does it not trigger again until after the 5seconds for each charge has expired.. basically does it stack with itself?
limber silo
I love Cawl. He's so based. Commits tech heresy on the regular
With special permission from papa smurf
summer prairie
it only refreshes the timer
limber silo
And the big e
floral mulch
Bleh.. thats kinda garbage..
gilded viper
I've a small quetsiong reagarding the internals workings of one of the feats, T1...
Timer get reset, no stacking 
hexed wedge
limber silo
Cawl consumes some dudes consciousness and read his past only to find out that Big E knew he was gonna do that a long time ago and said, "nah it's cool Cawl. Just make big gun and make Imperium win."
cyan notch
like this suit just seems ultra oversized and goofy but idk if thats just how that looks like or what
the guys face is so tiny
feral verge
blue is such a lame and non badass color
why couldnt it be black or red or gold or some shit
limber silo
The Ultramarines are as vanilla as it gets
limber silo
why couldnt it be black or red or gold or some shit
There's basically Legions of all colors
floral mulch
Another more general question. Is there a hard-cap wounds limit. I have two curios one with +1 wounds and another with +2 wounds. I dont see any difference in my wounds when i swap between...
hexed wedge
There's chapters of all colours, almost definitely
limber silo
I think Alpha Legion armor is really good. I like the snake scales pattern
hexed wedge
I am Alpharius
spice veldt
Another more general question. Is there a hard-cap wounds limit. I have two cu...
+2 wounds doesn't exist as far as I can tell
limber silo
I am Alpharius too (this is a lie)
spice veldt
I have an 80 base rating curio with wound, and it only goes up to +1
feral verge
Another more general question. Is there a hard-cap wounds limit. I have two cu...
i dont recommend using wounds
limber silo
One wound is fine
But if you get gud, you can use something better
I use health x2 and stam
feral verge
For this reason: Imo wounds are playing with the intent of failure, in a way. It's better to prevent going down in the first place, either with HP, toughness or even stamina for pushing. With more HP or toughness you are less likely to go down. With 1 extra wound, you need to go down twice in order for it to actually benefit you. Whereas toughness or HP will always be helpful. Typically in those games where you go down twice, the round is doomed anyway. Even on damnation I feel med stations are plentiful enough where + wounds are unnecessary
limber silo
I think 1 wound is fine. Having more wounds also allows you to keep more max health if you do go down once
Thus making going down once less punishing
feral verge
with +HP you get more max hp too
and its useful at all times
not requiring you to go down
limber silo
True. I don't use wound curios anymore, but they are useful when learning the game
I have seen psykers with 3 wound curios though. That's a face palm for me
floral mulch
- Playing to failure.. perhaps. But I'd rather have a larger number of wounds, since toughness just vanishes instantly. Ties into the reason I dislike force weapons.. They dont seem to have a good block.
feral verge
blocking is meh in this game
limber silo
1) Playing to failure.. perhaps. But I'd rather have a larger number of wounds,...
You should use kinetic deflection
hexed wedge
I switch out for a wound when I try to get "Going out with a bang" again 😂
cyan notch
I have seen psykers with 3 wound curios though. That's a face palm for me
gods strongest warrior
limber silo
Then the low stamina of force weapons is negligible
feral verge
1) Playing to failure.. perhaps. But I'd rather have a larger number of wounds,...
if toughness vanishes instantly, wouldnt you want more HP? instead of wounds
i run 3x HP curios and have had alot of success
floral mulch
Not to mention I use the "Dodge" it just kinda does nothing I still get hit.
feral verge
260 hp
spice veldt
toughness vanishes quickly but it also regenerates
limber silo
Not to mention I use the "Dodge" it just kinda does nothing I still get hit.
Dodge better???
spice veldt
some attacks are undodgeable
floral mulch
And no I dont spam it to to oblivion and make the dodge range go to zero.
floral mulch
What do you mean.. I use block and it does nothing but this wimpy force blast.
limber silo
Also know what the correct direction to dodge is too
spice veldt
running attacks seem undodgeable as far as I can tell, so you have to dodge sideways to break their tracking and get out of the way
feral verge
i reccomend blocking less, dodging more
limber silo
Don't dodge backwards on mauler/crusher slam
spice veldt
are you talking about the push-attack?
feral verge
cuz dodging really is effective
spice veldt
the push-attack is a single-target strong stagger
otherwise the push is the same as any other melee
limber silo
What do you mean.. I use block and it does nothing but this wimpy force blast.
Bro, hold the button. Don't do the attack
spice veldt
and the force swords have access to Slaughterer which provides a power buff which increases the strength of your push
feral verge
and unstable power
limber silo
and the force swords have access to Slaughterer which provides a power buff whic...
Did not know that
Very cool
Now I know why I can launch ragers off cliffs
spice veldt
yup lmao
floral mulch
Another.. q.. Is brain blast a headshot attack?
feral verge
when a pox burster is approaching i make sure im at max peril with my illisi sword
spice veldt
yes
feral verge
and push them like 30 feet a way
limber silo
BB auto hits weakspots
spice veldt
it also counts towards the "headshot 20 enemies in a row" penance
floral mulch
So thats why I have lots of headshots..
limber silo
Yeah, BB is nice for that
hexed wedge
BB underrated when deployed effectively
ornate hamlet
Another.. q.. Is brain blast a headshot attack?
Guaranteed always, but on Damnation it's not strong enough to kill a single special most of the time
feral verge
what staff do you use toby
limber silo
People think BB is weak because it doesn't one shot every elite/special. They are forgetting about the stagger and not having to stare at the enemy the whole time part
floral mulch
Currently running the Pyro atm. Its nice but I'm not sure its my style.
feral verge
purga is the best overall staff imo
but its okay if its not your style
trauma and voidstirke fuck too
limber silo
I think purge's weakness is with range mostly
hexed wedge
Purg is an aquired taste, but with the corrects feats it EATS hordes. It fucks
floral mulch
I am thinking I want to try the lightning staff. Stagger stuff and let the zealot delete hordes.
limber silo
If you can't reach shooters they'll fuck you up
ornate hamlet
I think purge's weakness is with range mostly
Also the damage isn't all that nice. You wind up knocking a lot of stuff over that others have to tap. But it's okay.
feral verge
i have used every staff pretty extensively, except surge lightnign staff because i think it sucks
limber silo
I am thinking I want to try the lightning staff. Stagger stuff and let the zeal...
If you take Illisi you can do the stagger AND clear the horde just as well
floral mulch
For reference I'm not 30 yet.. only 23..
feral verge
and my purga build is definitely my strongest
floral mulch
Illisi?
limber silo
For reference I'm not 30 yet.. only 23..
Purge gets much better after 30
limber silo
Illisi?
Horde clear FS
Idk why, but we've just been calling our FS by name instead of mk like every other weapon
ornate hamlet
Maybe I was just unlucky with the Psykers I got recently. But that's my experience. In terms of damage all the staves are weak. But they have good stagger. Surge has more range than Purgatus, but you can hit 5 (?) targets max.
cyan notch
cuz the marks have different names
floral mulch
Also, and to your point about BB being underrated.. The fact that you can delete the shielded ogryn in 2 shots is still very strong.. esp if you cant get beghind them.
feral verge
this is my setup, if you were curious. i only play damnation
feral verge
Maybe I was just unlucky with the Psykers I got recently. But that's my experien...
purgatus on its one can be weak. but with feats like ascendant blaze, it starts to fuck
limber silo
Would you guys take Wildfire on a Blazing Spirit trauma or vs?
cyan notch
just like people say antax rashad achlys
feral verge
it lets me top dmg charts on the scoreboard
not every time
but pretty consistently
limber silo
just like people say antax rashad achlys
I just say mk5 and everyone know what I'm talking about
sullen bobcat
What's the best options for boss damage on psyker
I'm not sure if brain burst spam or staffs are better DPS
leaden thunder
depening on your melee
limber silo
What's the best options for boss damage on psyker
I'm not sure if brain burst sp...
FS specials
leaden thunder
it's probably that
ornate hamlet
it lets me top dmg charts on the scoreboard
Doing damage to masses of enemies makes you easily top the charts. Doesn't mean it's always practical. I often see Purgatus knock the weak chaff around. But as I said, can't see what talents those Psykers pick. All I know is - When I see those flames, I think "another one"
spice veldt
melee is usually your best option against plague ogryn if you can headshot him
floral mulch
My only issue is I have vision issues, and with all the smoke and lighting and overlapping mobs it makes it extremely difficult to pick out the specials. I really wish they would have a slight highlighting or "Aura of Corruption" if you want to get all roleplay-ie. To make it a tiny bit easier for me to target.
feral verge
Doing damage to masses of enemies makes you easily top the charts. Doesn't mean ...
purga doesnt knock them around
thats trauma staff
sullen bobcat
FS specials
gets booped by funny plague doggy tail
leaden thunder
purgatus has functionally unlimited cleave within it's range
floral mulch
Bad dog!
leaden thunder
it's very good
limber silo
I use purge against beasts and plagues and it does good damage
spice veldt
for beast of nurgle, purg and trauma works. Note that BB deals reduced damage to the beast of nurgle
limber silo
*gets booped by funny plague doggy tail*
Just dodge bruh
leaden thunder
it's literally a more balanced flamer
and the flamer is like the strongest weapon in the game
ornate hamlet
purga doesnt knock them around
Yes it does. Poxwalkers get pushed over with Purgatus. I know what I talk about. I just spent the last half hour cleaning up after a Purgatus Psyker.
feral verge
it only does that if someone LMB spams too much
limber silo
Idk why everyone says purge is worse flamer. I can pull it out faster AND it has infinite ammo
sullen bobcat
Purge has infinite ammo, so it's much better for trash clear than flamer imho
sullen bobcat
Cost opportunity for ammo on flamer makes it not worth it for horde imo
limber silo
purga doesnt knock them around
Purge can knock everything around except muties
leaden thunder
you'd be
spice veldt
it's worse in terms of DPS, not all aspects
leaden thunder
very wrong
limber silo
Just do primary fire dude
spice veldt
it staggers them but it doesn't throw them down
limber silo
Same difference
fallow meadow
range on flamer is quite big tbf
ornate hamlet
it only does that if someone LMB spams too much
Then that's what the guy was doing I guess.
spice veldt
not really
feral verge
it staggers them but it doesn't throw them down
yeah thats what im saying
limber silo
Stagger is better imo since it does thro lw enemies in bad spots
spice veldt
we're not disputing that
feral verge
yeah knocking around and stagger arent the same
spice veldt
well mechanically they're the same
feral verge
trauma staff knocks shit around
feral verge
behind zealots and shit, if used improperly
limber silo
well mechanically they're the same
Hence "same difference"
cyan notch
the damage and range are quite significant
limber silo
I didn't say they were the same. I said they were similar enough that it doesn't matter too much
sullen bobcat
My mentality is not using resources when I don't have to. It's something that I'm used to for dumb things like vermintide dwons
limber silo
Tho I have seen purge make trash somersault towards me
cyan notch
purg doesnt melt bosses in 10s
feral verge
Then that's what the guy was doing I guess.
was he just flaming every straggler?
leaden thunder
you use 6 ammo on the flamer and it clears a horde
feral verge
cuz i think that's bad purga gameplay
sullen bobcat
I just don't think spending ammo on literally just poxwalker hordes is worth the opportunity cost
limber silo
purg doesnt melt bosses in 10s
Probably because we don't have Zealot ult
leaden thunder
it's like 6 ammo
sullen bobcat
Since you can do it for free with melee, and it's low threat
ornate hamlet
was he just flaming every straggler?
He was LMB spamming the hordes I think.
Not using right click
cyan notch
Probably because we don't have Zealot ult
i dont think ult does anything to flamer vs bosses
limber silo
Dude... I hope he's a newbie
limber silo
i dont think ult does anything to flamer vs bosses
100% armor pen
Max damage fire ticks
sullen bobcat
6 ammo adds up to a lot, and it's not really worth it if you don't have a vet, and you're doing long missions like damnation hi intensity gauntlet with 0 vets
leaden thunder
no it doesn't
ornate hamlet
I don't know the guy. I just told you what I saw from a random dude. I saw someone knock entire hordes over with flamer and me as a Vet and another Zealot had to clean up the mess that was on the ground
spice veldt
burn already does >100% damage to unyielding right
sullen bobcat
And you're competing with 3 other people for ammo?
ornate hamlet
Damnation run
limber silo
Are we counting captains as bosses?
cyan notch
kinda but not really since those guys fold to anything
leaden thunder
you say that
spice veldt
it could also be the ult and not the purg staff
cyan notch
more of dh bon plogryn
ornate hamlet
Flamer = Purgatus of course
leaden thunder
so many teams fold on the train boss
spice veldt
i'm testing it in the meat grinder and I can not get the enemies to get knocked down
limber silo
That's because no one pays attention to the hordes while capt is up
spice veldt
even while quell cancelling the LMB
sullen bobcat
Being in melee with a captain while still dealing with horde/elites+ breaks down teams
feral verge
so many teams fold on the train boss
sullen bobcat
Can't multitask well
Or realize that not everyone needs to be doing the same thing
feral verge
its even worse on shock troop gauntlet
limber silo
Literally, just talk strategy before pressing the elevator
viral solstice
Literally, just talk strategy before pressing the elevator
u see
its funny u should say that
sullen bobcat
we all need to all kill the boss
limber silo
Be like "Zealot do clear." And then you'll be fine
sullen bobcat
gets killed by a bunch of zombies
cyan notch
thats ones a problem cuz specials shotgunnners elites and hordes spawn literally all around you while the boss is going ham with his power sword at the same time
viral solstice
note the EXACT instructions given here
cyan notch
fighting the boss at his spawn is just asking to be surrounded
ornate hamlet
i'm testing it in the meat grinder and I can not get the enemies to get knocked ...
Really? Maybe someone else was knocking them down then and it looked like the flamer did that. Could be that, too. It gets very hectic. I just go by what I see.
If you say the data doesn't add up, I'd believe that
spice veldt
i'd assume that they ulted the horde and knocked them down
just that you didn't notice the ult popping off
olive ember
so many teams fold on the train boss
Fell apart at the last moment, just like cadia
limber silo
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/QqdSh_LEMd2Do/d1337e9bDpHa...
You see, the problem is that you have a Devil's claw and autogun
I talk shit about autogun, but are any of them actually good?
feral verge
You see, the problem is that you have a Devil's claw and autogun
crab is our resident crazy man and questioning him is folly
leaden thunder
true
cyan notch
idk he didnt take damage
viral solstice
thats an agri iag so yes it absolutely fucks and obviously i have a devil claw because im there to claw the devil
feral verge
sound logic
limber silo
Crab, you make my day better when I see you in here
stable hare
Is a +3 stam curio worth it for a psyker?
viral solstice
but also i just had a premonition with those ppl
i could see them
clustering around
hungering to lose their tuffs
olive ember
You see, the problem is that you have a Devil's claw and autogun
Yo MetaPsykerTM?
limber silo
Well I bring a chainsword to the captain fight... cause I'm gonna chainsword him
cyan notch
Yo MetaPsykerTM?
™️
limber silo
Is a +3 stam curio worth it for a psyker?
Yes if deflection
stable hare
I see
near wyvern
I wonder how fucked I will be by horde if I take Deimos with Surge. It's just hilarious that you can do this.
https://streamable.com/yjuxlu
stable hare
Im using FS with deflector
spice veldt
i'd take +3 stamina especially if I don't use kinetic deflection
stable hare
but not using the feat
limber silo
I believe more stamina means less peril generation w/ deflection
stable hare
So HP-HP-3stam?
viral solstice
I wonder how fucked I will be by horde if I take Deimos with Surge. It's just hi...
if i had a proper obscurus i would just do this
feral verge
I wonder how fucked I will be by horde if I take Deimos with Surge. It's just hi...
the tazer stab stab
cyan notch
deimos is not bad vs horde
