#psyker-class

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golden tartan
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Kek

hollow current
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also printed temp HP.

vast rover
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I think this turned out pretty well? šŸ¤” If I remember correctly, I want higher level Transfer Peril, but what perk do I get to replace groaner/pox damage?

timber bolt
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I always play horde clear in tide games

hollow current
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voidstrike is pretty easy. roll ranged damage to unarmored imo

still hearth
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On one hand you want Warp Flurry T4

west galleon
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Weakspot dmg?

still hearth
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On the other hand you really want Transfer Peril T4

timber bolt
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Saw a cool flame sword build on Reddit. Not as good as slaughterer but I’m running fine without that now so meh

still hearth
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I run Flak + Unarmored

cyan notch
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t3 is fine

spice veldt
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weakspot damage is terrible because of how the calculation works

still hearth
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Weakspot damage and crit damage are never good choices ever.

golden tartan
vast rover
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Thanks for the advice! 😁

still hearth
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And that's super sad.

spice veldt
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if your weapon deals 100 base damage and 120 damage on a weakspot hit, +10% weakspot will give you an additional 2 damage because it's boosting the difference between 120 and 100.

timber bolt
golden tartan
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Unclear

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Must

timber bolt
golden tartan
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Murder

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More

spice veldt
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i suppose

still hearth
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That 2 damage BP

spice veldt
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though you usually run warp unleashed with voidstrike anyways

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transfer peril for free money money

still hearth
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Quietitude + Transfer Peril 4

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Is just

timber bolt
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Fair… just haven’t found one yet. Upgraded 5 fucking power swords to gold and haven’t gotten it

still hearth
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Shoot constantly, get toughness from shooting anything, still keep Quietitude

hollow current
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I've upgraded like 10 trauma staves for warp flurry IV and haven't had any luck.

timber bolt
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I like quitide but is it better to run the other tier one perk that gets you toughness on warp kill?

cyan notch
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too bad void is lame

still hearth
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No

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Quietitude being available always

timber bolt
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Fair

hollow current
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It's already pretty spammable at III though.

weary idol
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I've started using warp siphon? the one that gives you toughness on warp kills

still hearth
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Is way more important than getting toughness on kills

weary idol
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since wildfire means that soulblaze actually keeps going and killing stuff

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which is pretty cool

still hearth
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It doesn't proc Warp Siphon afaik

weary idol
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quietitude is always based

spice veldt
timber shale
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soulblaze doesnt work with warp siphon

timber bolt
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Yeah warp siphon

weary idol
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god it's all warp and then something about sucking or consuming

still hearth
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Warp Absorption then

weary idol
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wait it doesn't?

timber bolt
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Are you sure? My purge staff definitely gets me toughness with syphon

hollow current
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warp vore

weary idol
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fuck nevermind then garbage feat back to quietitude

still hearth
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Purg can kill with direct damage

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Someone test this

timber bolt
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Huh

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Can’t right now but I think it works

cyan notch
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vanessa is hereby nominated to test it

timber bolt
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I like this chat

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Feels very constructive

weary idol
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well fatshark did basically give psyker viable builds overnight

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alongside actually good melee weapons

still hearth
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Viable

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You mean

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GOOOD

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Psyker had viable stuff all this time

weary idol
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deimos force sword is very satisfying

timber shale
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yeah this was a very nice patch

weary idol
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reminds me so much of the rapier from VT

timber bolt
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I went from flame zeolot to flame Psyker lol

still hearth
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Last buffs put Psyker in a "pretty good" category

spice veldt
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wtf, soulblaze kills proc warp absorption

still hearth
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Now its closing in on Veteran

hollow current
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I hope deimos doesn't catch the nerf bat that im all but certain the illi is going to cop

cyan notch
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wildfire is kinda whatever its mostly just warp unleashed and quell buff

timber bolt
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I hope Ilisi doesn’t get nerfed ti hard

weary idol
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I do like wildfire though

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it's quite fun to brainburst a gunner and somewhere a very unfortunate sniper just dies

spice veldt
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they'll probably nerf the cleave of the special

weary idol
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or a bulwark in a horde and brainbursting him kills all of them

timber bolt
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I’ve been running the +2 stacks and the fire ult and it’s pretty handy. Feels like unchained almost

spice veldt
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without the cleave of the special, the illisi's heavy-special doesn't do that much more than qq cancelling your normal 1st heavy

still hearth
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If they nerf anything on Illisi

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I'm reporting them for abuse

timber bolt
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Am I supposed to be using the light attack on ilisi

spice veldt
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never

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never ever lightspam on force swords

timber bolt
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Ok

spice veldt
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i will eat your children

still hearth
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Heavy spam is the way to go

timber bolt
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That’s what I thought

weary idol
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well I mean

cyan notch
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why would they nerf illisi when power sword bull butcher heavy sword exist

still hearth
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In fact Illisi you can just repeat special heavy

weary idol
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deimos has heavy into 3 lights for y'know

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horde clear

still hearth
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They nerfed Thunder Hammer

spice veldt
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lights have 2 cleave (except for obscurus and deimos' stab), whereas heavies have 6 cleave (except for deimos' stab)

timber bolt
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Demos heavy 2 is crazy strong

spice veldt
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lights are straight up awful on the force swords for hordeclear

weary idol
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yeah and then 3 lights after which also do it

spice veldt
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block-cancel into the 1st heavy

cyan notch
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theyre not awful

spice veldt
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2 cleave

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that's duelling sword tier garbage

cyan notch
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slaughterer

spice veldt
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oh wow 4 poxwalkers very cool

still hearth
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If Warp Absorption is fixed on Illisi

timber bolt
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What curios should I use?

manic halo
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they should add a force knife. So we can have our own version of the zealot knife build

spice veldt
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still garbage to a potential 11 poxwalkers on a heavy

still hearth
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Then I might actually use it with Purg

weary idol
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literally just siennas flame knife from VT2

manic halo
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except that

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because that would make it good

cyan notch
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its better than duelling sword and people used that shit for horde

manic halo
still hearth
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Still ned two more Mks of Knife

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Lets go

spice veldt
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garbage to what you have

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since you can heavy

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you should never ever light spam unless you don't have the attention or APM for it

cyan notch
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yeah but lights arent trash and can be used in a pinch

timber bolt
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Is having Stam curios for force sword bad?

spice veldt
timber bolt
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Or should I be all toughness

spice veldt
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I take one +3 stamina curio

timber bolt
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Ok dope

cyan notch
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deimos l1 kills bucketheads in 1 headshot

spice veldt
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force swords have a notoriously terrible block cost

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i meant sweeping heavies lights

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and I meant it for hordeclear

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no shit that it's fine to use them for single target

manic halo
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wish I had something better than executor but this has been pretty good to me

hollow current
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guilty pleasure, I run a 3 stam curio ever since I had one for my duelling sword

timber bolt
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Demos is cool but you can’t use the special over and over again to gain warp

weary idol
manic halo
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ANNOYING THAT IT HAPPEND TWICE THOUGH

timber bolt
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Yeah, but that’s a lot of apm

cyan notch
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no its decent for horde clear when you cant charge heavy or want to get fast hits in

spice veldt
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you'll get the muscle memory for it in time

cyan notch
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you can weave in lights with heavies

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its not like thammer tier lights vs heavies

timber shale
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special->heavy1->light2->repeat is the way to go on the illisi

still hearth
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Just skip the light

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Spam special and heavy

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Smh

timber bolt
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Still have yet to clear the new crazy mission modifier. Every time we’d get fucked with trappers flamers and muties

manic halo
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But light attacks are cool ):>

still hearth
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I'll light u

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If you're at 100% peril you can heavy 1 + 2 lights

manic halo
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BROOO

still hearth
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And you get peril back

timber bolt
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I died like three times to a Mutie holding me for a sniper

still hearth
manic halo
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I like being at high peril. Exploding is fun

still hearth
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Imagine not having 60% sniper resistance

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And 60% Hp

timber bolt
manic halo
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Do we know if the perils of the warp explosion damage is affected by warp charges

still hearth
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It is

manic halo
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HEAR ME OUT

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max wounds

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warp battery

weary idol
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but is it affected by warp unleashed?

still hearth
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It is probably affected by WU too

manic halo
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and whatever WU does

spice veldt
still hearth
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So you can do 49% extra explosion

manic halo
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new build gamersa

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oh right WU

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ive been using warck and ruin

fringe tangle
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What staff does Warp Unleashed make sense to use with? Just Void?

still hearth
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Everything

manic halo
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cause im not a loser like you all

timber bolt
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Guess it’s good if you need the penance

still hearth
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There's nothing that doesn't benefit from Unleashed

timber bolt
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What is unleashed?

west galleon
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Ah dude i messed up a damnation run bc of that shit yesterday

still hearth
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Warp Unleashed

spice veldt
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top lvl 10 feat

still hearth
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10-25% extra damage for having peril

timber bolt
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Gotcha, it’s so good

still hearth
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Yeah its just silly.

timber bolt
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That plus the blessing that does the same thing on ilisi is insane

still hearth
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Even just the BB breakpoints

west galleon
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Boss was at 10% and my 3 psyker buds went down. Meanwhile i am at 100% and left click by accident ooops

cyan notch
still hearth
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Is enough for me to want to use it

spice veldt
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though if the enemies are stacked on top of each other, the heavies perform better

fringe tangle
timber bolt
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I’d like a 2 handed sword

spice veldt
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if I get better at dragging my view with the heavies and if I whip out slaughterer, I expect the heavies to outperform the lights

still hearth
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Just quell for a bit and resume spamming

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Though Flurry do be dropping then

fringe tangle
manic halo
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Queling is for losers

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explode like a real chad

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be lore accurate

timber bolt
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Quelling is for toughness

manic halo
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NOW

still hearth
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Run Quicken and keep shouting

fringe tangle
cyan notch
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yea lights are mainly good for stragglers spread out or if you need make space quick

manic halo
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voices are my bros

timber bolt
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God there’s so many builds on Psyker

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There’s like 2 builds for zeolot

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Sry, 3 builds

still hearth
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There's 2 valid builds

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And then the 3rd is an angry, black sheep

timber bolt
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Knife, heavy shit, and axes/swords

still hearth
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Heavy Shit and Axes/Swords is the same build

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Its crit or not-crit

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Then some people pretend that low HP builds are a thing

fringe tangle
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In your own opinions, what is the most useless Psyker feat?

I vote for Mind In Motion, absolute dogshit feat.

still hearth
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Yes.

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No contest, its useless

timber bolt
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Or If you want damage on low life or more impact

still hearth
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Even more now that quelling

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Takes less than 2s

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From 100%

fringe tangle
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yeah lol

still hearth
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Mind in Motion should just reduce the time to start passive quelling by 50%

spice veldt
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i can't believe they just straight up buffed quelling speeds across the board

still hearth
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And maybe make passive quell faster

spice veldt
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instead of attaching the quelling buffs to mind in motion

manic halo
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can we buff camo vets

timber bolt
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I don’t think the quelling is to strong tho

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It feels good

spice veldt
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it's INSANELY strong when combined with quietude

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I can stand out in the open against shooters, pop into cover, and do that again in a quickie

timber bolt
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Yeah for sure, but that’s a build

still hearth
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Warp Absorption could use giving toughness based on the enemy

spice veldt
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there's also basically no downtime for quelling now

still hearth
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And Essence Harvest could use stacking

spice veldt
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I can sit in a corner and be safe against a poxwalker and bulwark horde with the trauma staff

manic halo
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I wonder if they will nerf the 3rd t1 talent

timber bolt
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Like I don’t think it’s to strong, it just works, y’all all stockholmed after having shitty builds for months

manic halo
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or buff the others

still hearth
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Otherwise I don't really feel like they compare to Quietitude

spice veldt
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whereas pre-patch I had to be more careful and balance my stamina and peril to survive

spice veldt
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I don't need to swap to my melee to make space anymore if I'm stuck in a corner

still hearth
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Psyker was held back a lot by having to work in quelling

spice veldt
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I can just spam my trauma staff at 100% peril

still hearth
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And now quelling isn't a skill thing

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You can just push the horde once

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Quell for .5s

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And you have another charge of your staff

spice veldt
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you have to remember that the quelling rampup and speeds were both buffed

weary idol
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psyker being good

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never thought i'd see the day after great nerfing of the beta

spice veldt
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this means that quelling from 100% to 80% is FAR faster than pre-patch

still hearth
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Psyker isn't just good. It's great.

spice veldt
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not just comparing between quelling from 100% to 0%

cyan notch
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we didnt have shitty builds we just had not many builds

timber bolt
still hearth
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Currently each level 30 feat actually affects your playstyle some

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Which is more than the feats do for any of the other classes.

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Zealot's closest thing is the crit CDR but that's just.. keep attacking

timber bolt
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I like having to think about my feats. I’m really enjoying the differences is builds with this class

spice veldt
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i'd say that quelling from 100% to 80% is like three times faster than pre-patch

manic halo
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yeah half the level 30 feats are just... 2 meh and the obvious pick at times

still hearth
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Veteran is just all Counterfire

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If you run a gun that can't run Counterfire, run a different gun

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That's how stupid I think Counterfire is

timber bolt
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Lmaoooo… I’ve never used crit ult for zeolot. Even in crit builds I think it’s better having 2 charges

still hearth
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It isn't

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Not with real crit weapons

timber bolt
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I mean my knife build I use two charges

spice veldt
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taxe supremacy

still hearth
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But they're close enough now

still hearth
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Compared to before

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Counterfire is the anti shooter one

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Marking the shooters and dreg stalkers

weary idol
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oh right

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every time I play vet I run the anti-ogryn one to one shot reapers

still hearth
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You're what's wrong with Vet

weary idol
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well I don't play vet much

still hearth
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Its ok

timber bolt
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How many bbs does it take to kill reaper

weary idol
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and I use shotgun, plasma gun, and helbore...

weary idol
timber bolt
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I cannot stand playing vet

still hearth
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2 if you run the right combo

weary idol
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actually might be 2 with warp unleashed

still hearth
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You need 6 stacks, WU and Lacerations I think

timber bolt
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Thanks!!

still hearth
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THen you can 2 shot reapers with BB

cyan notch
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reaper is pretty hard to hit 3

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i mean 2

still hearth
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Yeah you need to have like 50% peril too

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At the start

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To 2shot

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With everything up

timber bolt
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Gotcha

still hearth
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You can try it in Psykarnum to see what the exact numbers are

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I've found it wasn't worth it to have for 2-shotting reapers

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There's not enough of them to be worth the 1 less BB

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Unless I run Barrage

cyan notch
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if u cant do it with warp unleashed and 6 stacks it aint worth it

still hearth
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Lacerations is fine

timber bolt
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What ult are you guys using? I really like having damage on the ult but it might be unnecessary

still hearth
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Quicken almost always

spice veldt
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Kinetic Barrage

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having the burst ranged DPS is necessary at times

still hearth
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I think Barrage is better

timber bolt
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I’ve BRB using the burn one

weary idol
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yeah kinetic barrage

timber bolt
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Been-8

still hearth
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But I just like using Quicken

weary idol
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though ascendant blaze is chad

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what is quicken even for

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is it just the utility of 2 warp charges

timber bolt
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I use the extra stacks and blaze

spice veldt
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if I didn't run the trauma staff, I'd probably use quicken

still hearth
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2 warp charges and fast ults

spice veldt
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since the push from the ult is genuinely quite useful

still hearth
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You can knock the horde back and get 4 warp charges before they get up by BBing

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And it lets me always have ult

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So I can be more sloppy with peril if I don't care

timber bolt
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Blaze is just so good with my flame staff

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I can’t stop

restive slate
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Vanessa you use Quicken with what build?

still hearth
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I've tried it with Autopistol and Void.

cyan notch
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surge

timber bolt
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Even using a horde clear melee flames are just so dope

still hearth
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And Surge, actually.

cyan notch
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LOL

still hearth
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But that was more for a BB build

weary idol
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I've been using wrack and ruin +wildfire/barrage

still hearth
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Since the other staffs require way more uptime to be worth it

restive slate
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Okay Surge sounds like a good pair

weary idol
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which the only thing that sucks about it is no warp unleashed

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my damage in shambles

still hearth
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Wrack and Ruin just feels meh.

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And the fact that it doesn't go off if someone takes your kill

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Angers me

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So many times do I start popping something and my team all decides to nuke it

restive slate
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Also Void and Quicken eh? Thought you'd wanna bb elites

still hearth
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I BB elites and used Void for hordes

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But it didn't work well

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I found it works great for Autopistol though

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With KB and Communion

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Uh

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Flayer*

weary idol
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but that is incredibly annoying yes

still hearth
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If you run Wrack with Barrage

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Then that's definitely good

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But also

restive slate
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I used Kinetic Barrage so I can pop the heads before some Vet shoots the glowing head

still hearth
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Just run AB?

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You can hit 6 stacks on everything instead

weary idol
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true

still hearth
weary idol
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however

primal plume
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My psyker build is whatever mood im in

weary idol
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AB doesn't kill bulwarks :(

still hearth
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Well you only need 2 BB for Bulwarks anyway

weary idol
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also I like being weird and contrarian and off meta okay

still hearth
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That's okay

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Just don't run Mind in Motion

weary idol
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gun psyker

still hearth
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Or I'll be sad

weary idol
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god yeah no that feat is worthless

cyan notch
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gun psyker is probably not that off meta now

weary idol
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I used to run the toughness damage reduction for a long time because I didn't realize peril blocking still worked when reviving teammates

primal plume
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I always use it

weary idol
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and I thought it was a meme

primal plume
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Gotta go fast

restive slate
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Gun Psyker as strong as Staff Psyker

restive slate
weary idol
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now I basically never take peril blocking off

still hearth
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Autopistol outperforms a lot of staves

weary idol
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it doesn't always come into play but god when you need it

still hearth
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But that weapon is just broken af right now

weary idol
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laspistol

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I just like clicking heads

still hearth
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No

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Bad

restive slate
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Anyone plays without Deflector?

weary idol
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but

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head laser

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laser

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into heretic

restive slate
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No no you play Laspistol for force push

still hearth
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I tried running Shield

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And it doesn't feel impactful enough

cyan notch
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only thing thats stopping gun psyker from being even stronger are the available guns and wonky toughness regen

still hearth
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But I don't notice Deflection much either

restive slate
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Granted most of us just slide into cover

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If so, I might take Deflector off my force swords and replace with something else

weary idol
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deflector is a nice novelty imo

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it does mean you can revive people for free whenever you want

still hearth
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Illisi having Deflector for free

restive slate
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I thought they fixed that?

still hearth
weary idol
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but it's not a novelty that's worth taking over something like slaughterer

still hearth
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Slaughterer is the only one you need

restive slate
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Isn't it such that you can't block ranged shots anymore while rezzing?

still hearth
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The other ones aren't as necessary but you need more power to get to 1-shot levels on poxwalkers

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Yeah you can't block ranged while rezzing

weary idol
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lame

restive slate
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It's the main reason I used Deflector

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Even so, the unlimited dodges on all Force Swords are fantastic

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I still give Duelling Swords some love but man it's hard to ignore the FS

spice veldt
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duelling swords are my unloved children

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i make them buy my alcohol and that's it

cyan notch
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deimos is a better ds

restive slate
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Buy your packs of cigs

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True that

ornate hamlet
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dueling swords are really unlucky to share the same class as force sword

restive slate
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Duelling Swords pokes almost have no use since Deimos entered the field

spice veldt
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actually inferior class weapons right now

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i wonder how they'll buff the duelling swords

restive slate
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To be honest I thought the Vet might get Duelling Swords

ornate hamlet
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id argue even before the new swords id prefer obscurus over dueling because of the versatility

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obscurus had some moderate hording and could cuck elites with the special

restive slate
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Since we have Guard Sergeants wielding military sabres and stuff

ornate hamlet
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dueling was too "normal"

eternal hinge
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wasn't as f a s t though

ornate hamlet
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ngl fast weapons in this game feel weird

spice veldt
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run away from the problems in life with the duelling sword

ornate hamlet
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somehow theyre odd compared to vt2's

spice veldt
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i hate kiting in this game

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i prefer to fight in-place if I absolutely can

ornate hamlet
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same

spice veldt
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hold chokepoints or die fighting

cyan notch
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obscurus dodge compared to ds dodge is like half

restive slate
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Saltzpyre's Rapier feels best

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OH THATS IT

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Give the Duelling Swords a second level Heavy for extra damage

ornate hamlet
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kiting is a mechanic i dislike in co-op games because it bases itself on the ai being fucking stupid

cyan notch
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wat

spice veldt
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i don't like kiting because that's time spent not dealing damage

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DPS loss

ornate hamlet
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its also a thing in pvp games with melee and it honestly sucks, but at least theres no guilt of ruining the ais mood for the day by just running away

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its also anticlimatic

cyan notch
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you are dealing damage while kiting

restive slate
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Though sometimes ai do this super lunge and hit you anyway despite you sliding at least 3 blocks away

cyan notch
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its just to avoid getting cornered cuz you cant outkill a horde before they surround u

still hearth
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Just play Zealot with heavy sword

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And kite into the horde

manic halo
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is warp battery worth picking nowa days

still hearth
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Spin around 360 and spam lights

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Warp Battery is still great

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It makes hitting BP values easier

cyan notch
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yea kiting is more of a thing in vt2 where u dont have omega busted melees and omega busted ranged

weary idol
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huh that's an interesting emperor's gift

near wyvern
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I am confused

golden tartan
near wyvern
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Slaughterer is so good but then again this has t4 blazing spirit

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too bad I don't have bloodlust yet

golden tartan
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So

still hearth
#

Slap Bloodthirsty on it

golden tartan
#

Heres the thing

still hearth
#

For fun

near wyvern
#

I don't have bloodthirsty 😦

#

that's the one I am looking for

golden tartan
#

Whats surviving for blazing spirit to proc on

still hearth
#

7+ targets on special

near wyvern
#

I have tested this on shred blazing spirit

still hearth
#

Yeah but you

#

Two-shot

#

On special hits

#

So

golden tartan
#

^

#

You just murder them

near wyvern
#

and then you apply wildfire so the next targets get blazed and so on

spice veldt
#

blazing spirit wildfire is actually quite nutty

near wyvern
#

I already have a slaughterer deflector so I guess the blazing spirit is staying on this one

shadow quail
#

I had blazing on the new FS but never seemed to proc

spice veldt
#

a crit blessing is basically mandatory due to a lack of any other crit chance source

#

like from shred, riposte, or bloodthirsty

near wyvern
#

this is what I made it now but gonna change that perk into +5% crit chance once I get the plasteel again

still hearth
#

I just think its sad

#

That Blazing is the way it is

#

Give it a cap up to 18

#

So that its at least better at killing big enemies

shadow quail
#

ill keep an eye out for one for my purg build then, wish i didn't reroll it now

near wyvern
#

you should not use Illisi with purgatus nor wildfire

#

Deimos, Duelling Sword, Combat Blade, those are your good options with purge

golden tartan
#

Deimos is a shit ton of fun ngl

still hearth
#

I mean neither is it great to use Blazing Spirit

#

Compared to running full Power

golden tartan
#

Thats fair

#

Deimos is just powah powah powah

#

One shot muties ftw

weary idol
#

deimos casually putting out a 4000 damage headshot on mutants is fascinating

#

like I get they take triple melee damage but damn

cyan notch
#

u could do it with special bodyshot on old obscurus

still hearth
#

Obscurus and Deimos do the same damage on special

#

So another reason not to use Obscurus

#

Shesh

cyan notch
#

there never was one

near wyvern
#

I wonder what the next shop roll conttent will be KEKW_ogryn

manic halo
#

any suggestions on how to complete the pick and mix penance? Does it want 5 unique specialiest and elites killed or can I kill 2 of the same one

golden tartan
#

Non unique

near wyvern
#

just 5 specialist / elites killed

cyan notch
#

i remember derpy insisting obscurus was better horde clear and better than deimos on the first day

golden tartan
#

Play shock trooper damnation

#

Done

near wyvern
#

yup

#

and run kinetic barrage + psykinetic's aura

golden tartan
manic halo
#

ah. what counts as a elite here

golden tartan
#

Then uh

#

Uhh

manic halo
#

does a shotgunner count

golden tartan
#

Yes

cyan notch
still hearth
#

Obscurus technically has better cleave but the heavy swipes have such bad cleave angles

near wyvern
# manic halo ah. what counts as a elite here

Elites:

  • Mauler
  • Reaper
  • Gunners
  • Shotgunners
  • Bulwarks
  • Crushers

Specials:

  • Flamers
  • Bombers
  • Hounds
  • Mutants
  • Trappers
  • Bursters
  • Snipers

For those that you can 1 shot with different set ups, check the Atheneum (pinned message)

manic halo
#

thank u

#

so if I kill like 5 shot gunners in a row it will count?

spice veldt
#

intuitively, elites pre-spawn on the map and specialists will spawn at some interval and are always aggroed onto you

manic halo
#

man how tf have I not gotten this yet

manic halo
#

i keep only getting four

near wyvern
#

because veterans tend to kill them before you can

manic halo
#

by all count this should beat easy

spice veldt
#

commsplex's midevent is your friend

near wyvern
#

always spawns shitton of gunners on the back

spice veldt
#

i got it without intentionally going for the penance; it can be a matter of having good or bad teammates

#

preferably bad teammates

still hearth
#

Or nice teammates

#

That run Illisi

#

And block shots for you

#

Except you can't block shots but they can take aggro

spice veldt
#

eat the gunner shots like a real psyker

#

and then explode

still hearth
#

Not running +9 stamina

#

So you can tank gunners for 2 minutes

#

Smh

spice veldt
#

+9 stamina so that your teammates can't see your stupidity

still hearth
#

They'll know

spice veldt
#

such brilliance shan't be revealed to them

#

no

still hearth
#

There's only one thing that doesn't show up in game

feral topaz
#

since I have Numeric UI, and I see you have no wounds, no hp or toughness increase, Ill know

spice veldt
#

social security numbers

cyan notch
#

its really easy in commsplex if u stand near their spawn they just all 5 sit at the door and u can repeek over and over and theyll just afk

still hearth
#

Yeah we'll know

spice veldt
#

hmm

#

can you deselect curios in this game

still hearth
#

No

spice veldt
#

damn

still hearth
#

Once equipped you're screwed

manic halo
#

just loaded into a game of only psykers

still hearth
#

Can only swap

spice veldt
#

nooooooooo

manic halo
#

AAAA

still hearth
#

Only Psykers

#

No staves

spice veldt
#

team with the most burst DPS

#

I hope you're not on chasm terminus

still hearth
#

Still outdone by Veteran

#

But y'know

#

At least BB doesn't cost ammo

spice veldt
#

that's true

#

a game could take 10 hours and you wouldn't need ammo

#

cuz

#

free money

olive ember
#

This is why you run autopistol

#

someone as to be the ammo vacuum

spice veldt
#

shwoop

still hearth
#

I've yet to try out Autopistol Vet

#

But I might have to soon.

inland sand
#

is this good

#

I feel like Flurry/Quell on Weakspot is the superior version of void?

#

seems like Surge works on secondary on the Psykhanium which is nice

safe crystal
#

Thats decent, but anything with transfer on void is probably better than that, since you can shoot infinitely with it

#

Im still looking for surge blessing to do that exact staff though

river sand
# inland sand is this good

its kinda situational when you can get the flurry running and get the opportunity to dish out 15-20 shots in a row without the need to melee/block/do whatever cancels flurry its definitly better. on the other hand for those more chaotic situation where you pump out 2-3 shots, switch to melee , ress someone etc. surge might be better

inland sand
#

probs want crit perk on it

#

doesn't trigger enough with just Nexus

#

feels bad taking off Flak for Crit chance tho

#

real bad

safe crystal
#

Does surge trigger another charged RMB, or is it uncharged?

inland sand
#

can't tell

#

feels like it just hits twice

river sand
#

but its super satisfying when surge procs and you oneshot those gunners/shotgunners etc ...

still hearth
#

I think Surge might be better atm

#

Since they fixed Flurry

river sand
#

its a charged on the level you charged your original shot

still hearth
#

So you can't stack it with LMB

#

They seem pretty even now

#

But Surge is sometimes just 0 value

river sand
#

on the pro side for surge is that you can make more use of warp unleashed

still hearth
#

Well Transfer peril at most gives 30% peril reduction

river sand
#

cause you dont stay at 0% peril all the time

junior zephyr
#

is wrack and ruin worth taking or is inner tranquility better?

still hearth
#

Warp Unleashed is the best

inland sand
#

depends on the staff

still hearth
#

Wrack and Ruin is very specific imo

inland sand
#

but never Wrack and Ruin

still hearth
#

And not super helpful most of the time.

river sand
inland sand
#

u need IT for Trauma imo, otherwise it craps out after about 3-4 casts

#

current build, with a bit of a high roll, I can get 15ish casts

still hearth
#

If you want to run Flurry then yeah

inland sand
#

b2b

still hearth
#

You kind of have to

#

Because you can't stack it without charging up

inland sand
#

u 2

river sand
#

atm im torn between deimos and illisi and cant quite decide which i like more

still hearth
#

I've not even tried Deimos but I don't think I can give up horizontal cleave

river sand
#

iliisi is great but do you really need cleave when you got a staff ?

still hearth
#

What's a staff

#

I have an Autopistol

#

Staves aren't fast enough at close range clear, even Purgatus is slower than y'know

#

Instantly deleting 7 poxwalkers

#

And two-shotting the rest

frozen glacier
#

I can't bring myself to use anything other than a staff on Psyker, it just don't feel right

#

I NEED the MAGIC

still hearth
#

You got magic hands

frozen glacier
#

Headpop is such a bother to use

#

I forget I have it a lot lmao

cyan notch
#

fake mage

frozen glacier
#

I try to remember them stacks

#

I use it on specials, but if there's a sharpshooter on the team he'll almost always just kill everything first lol

inland sand
#

The Deimos is my new favourite weapon

#

the power on it is unreal

#

Makes the THammer feel really bad

golden tartan
#

Deimos is the eye gouger lol

inland sand
#

THRUST TO THE FACE

steel flame
willow parrot
#

this thing is complete overkill lmao

steel flame
#

Yep

#

Total overkill

willow parrot
#

but extremely fun

#

i should probably change infested to flak or carapace tbh

#

not like infested is gonna be a problem with that

steel flame
#

Or just go full overkill and do unarmored

still hearth
#

Wawit

willow parrot
#

lol

still hearth
#

First Target on Illisi

#

Doesn't affect the special damage

#

At all

#

With that set-up you will be shy of .4 damage

#

To one-shot infinite poxwalkers on special

#

So if you have 25% infested and max stacked everything

willow parrot
#

i stopped playing shortly after i got that illisi upgraded to orange but i also got a blue deimos with slaughter

still hearth
#

Or you just do two hits instead

#

Which is far more reasonable

willow parrot
#

perhaps

still hearth
#

You do still need to hit the heads with the crit to get the infinite 1-shot

willow parrot
#

i usually go with deflector and slaughterer but i wanted to see what kind of dumb shit i could do with bloodthirsty

still hearth
#

And in this case "infinite" just means 10 more poxwalkers

willow parrot
#

yippee!!

still hearth
#

But hey that's 17 poxwalkers per swing

#

If you have an Ogryn on your team you should reliably one-shot with special heavy

weary idol
#

imagine you're a zealot thinking you're the strong melee class

#

and a psyker comes up and one shots half the horde with one swing

still hearth
#

Zealot was competing with Ogryn before

#

But also Veteran had Psword

#

And now Psyker is like "lmao let me have a Psword AND a Thunder Hammer"

#

The fact that they "fixed" Thammer in the same patch as they released Deimos

#

Like

cyan notch
#

i mean its not really a thammer

plucky perch
#

quitude feels solid with the most recent quelling speed changes

still hearth
#

Its not even solid

#

Its so good

#

That its floating over the rest

manic halo
#

nerf quitude

still hearth
#

Wrong

#

Buff the other two

manic halo
#

nope

#

Voices tell me this is best in the long run

#

im pretty sure qyuitude has been the only one worth picking since the begining

steel flame
#

I rolled a Deimos with slaughter 4 and bloodthirsty with 25% carapace........too bad the special sucks

weary idol
#

does the special suck

#

it one shots flak ragers

cyan notch
#

no

weary idol
#

and maulers

still hearth
#

The special is useful but the H2 does almost the same damage

manic halo
#

let me one shot BB maulters

steel flame
#

Not much reason to use the special over l1 h2 combo

weary idol
#

sure there is

#

because the special goes back into light 1

#

so you kill maulers by doing a special light, then light 1 into heavy

#

and they're dead

cyan notch
#

u can just special heavy bodyshot

weary idol
#

yeah but that's lame

cyan notch
#

1 shotting is never lame

weary idol
#

you gotta be cool

cyan notch
#

special light also 1 shots flamers

steel flame
#

Ill never get tired of the h2 just obliterating mutants from full health

#

On a headshot

limber silo
#

Why did no one tell me that psy-bolters exist?

steel flame
#

You didn't ask

cyan notch
#

special is good for ragers and crushers too

limber silo
#

I'm just wandering around wh lore wikis finding new shit to want ingame

#

Dude I want a psycannon

manic halo
#

I wish ice psyker powers were a thing

steel flame
#

Unfortunately most of those are greyknight weapons not fit for mortals

manic halo
#

I wanna make pox walkers slide of cliffs

weary idol
#

lore excuses lame

#

give me a force pike

#

give the ogryn astartes weapons

steel egret
#

Use lore workaround

steel flame
#

They have force weapons call doom fists

limber silo
steel flame
#

I want a doomfist

steel egret
#

Corrupted grey knight weapon.

limber silo
#

Gimme a daemon hammer and psycannon, lemme be a pseudo Grey knight

steel flame
#

I wanna punch heretics into the SHADOWREALM

limber silo
#

I think daemonhammers are likely to be added with other jobs for psyker

#

Probably protectorate

steel egret
#

Protectorate is one people believe the most

limber silo
#

We'll get the beefy force weapons when we get a beefy psyker job

steel egret
#

Due the grenades and shield datamining.

limber silo
#

Greatsword, daemonhammer, psyk-out nades

manic halo
#

biomancer drip was leaked so it might be likely that it becomes a sub classs

cyan notch
#

wtf is a biomancer

#

that sounds dorky

limber silo
#

I think Biomancer will be a dedicated support job

still hearth
#

Biomancers explode enemies whole bodies

#

Not just their brain

#

Make enemies into living bombs

cyan notch
#

that doesnt sounds very cool

limber silo
cyan notch
#

biomancer sounds like a botanist

still hearth
#

Imagine hating explosoins

manic halo
#

mf called it dorkey

#

):

#

Ill LEAVE

cyan notch
#

sounds like u plant trees

steel egret
limber silo
#

Keep in mind Biomancy is "life wizard" humans are living things.

olive ember
#

its from here

#

a while back

cyan notch
#

page 7 wtf

#

u went lookin

olive ember
#

but basically supposedly from leftover code we have a "gunslinger" psyker with throwing knives or wte

#

im assuming the last one is either healer or tank psyker

limber silo
#

He wins every quick draw by reading their mind (and then exploding it)

steel egret
#

Or something

limber silo
#

Probably either Yondu-esque daggers or high damage single target like Ogryn boxes

inland sand
#

Does sustained fire work with Trauma Charged shots?

still hearth
#

No

#

Actually idk

#

But probably not

#

I think someone tested it on Void and it didn't work

weary idol
#

except that it's probably going to be a boring ass homing projectile ult like vermintide elf

#

instead of cool knife

limber silo
weary idol
#

oh nice

safe crystal
weary idol
#

so it would be like thier brain burst equivalent

#

just chucks knives at people

#

brain knives

limber silo
#

Makes me thing gunslinger psyker will be more hvt focused

weary idol
#

god I hope so

#

hunter was my favorite class in destiny expressly for the cool throwing knife stuff

limber silo
#

The nades seem complementary to the classes current playstyles rn

golden tartan
#

God I love the VS+Deimos. šŸ˜„

Just did a Hi5shock in 27 mins

limber silo
#

So I don't see that changing w/ future jobs

limber silo
golden tartan
limber silo
#

That'd be cool

golden tartan
#

Like Kerillian javelin

#

They are 'knives'

#

I.e. psychic slivers

#

And you can just generate more

limber silo
#

Calls them "knives" are actually sword shaped boomerangs

ornate hamlet
#

i wanna say infinite ammo is a bad thing, but this game has a lot more ammo on weapons compared to vermintide

weary idol
#

I just kinda can't wait for more content ngl

#

getting antsy

golden tartan
#

Can easily make it peril linked

#

reloading more knives costs peril

limber silo
#

Scoreboard keeps making me mvp because I am playing a resource less psyker

golden tartan
#

Since you know, they are psychic knives

weary idol
#

I have too much fun headclicking with the laspistol to run staves consistently

#

trauma is good fun though

limber silo
ornate hamlet
#

i wish aiming the funny ball on staves didnt suck

golden tartan
#

But psychic knives cool

#

:c

#

Thats actually a way Smite manifests in lore

limber silo
#

Yeah, you use a knife like a yondu arrow, you maintain flight time by using peril

weary idol
#

imagine their "grenade" is a knife and they can throw it at enemies and keep moving it between enemis with their mind

#

(provided you can keep tracking them)

#

chuck that sucker and keep it going

limber silo
#

Just stare at a crusher and watch them die as your psychic hole puncher uses their innards as a go cart track

weary idol
#

at least they don't have a blue shell in their organs

limber silo
#

That's our bb

#

We blue shell bitches with our MIND

#

You can't tell me that having your head violently erupt in blue-white flame isn't at least somewhat worse than a blue shell

weary idol
#

though most people are pretty sure gun lugger ogryn is gonna be first new career right?

lethal folio
#

The throwing knives are the grenade slot

limber silo
#

I'm guessing gunlugger will have a mini gun like artificer bardin

lethal folio
#

there is special synergy with the stub revolver to throw the knives.

weary idol
#

makes me wonder how far along they are on careers in development

#

I haven't actually read through any datamined stuff

#

aside from the cosmetics

limber silo
lethal folio
#

All the concept is pretty much done.

limber silo
#

Throw knife, shoot knife, bounce bullets, kill things, profit

weary idol
limber silo
#

Ngl I've never played Ultrakill. All I know about it comes from Calamity having Midas Prime and drg tubers playing it

weary idol
#

it is a very good movement shooter

#

so if you like devil may cry, or the quake series

#

it's kind of a hybrid between them

#

quakes super movement focused shooting, and devil may cry's style system and emphasis on being flashy

limber silo
#

Never played dmc either

#

Or quake for that matter

#

Maybe I'll try mover shooters. FPS were never my thing, but DRG got me enjoying horde games

weary idol
lethal folio
weary idol
#

alright noted

#

thanks

rare furnace
#

Morning psyk boys

cyan notch
#

im girl

spice veldt
#

it's night

#

timezones aren't real

ancient ivy
#

So whats the current thinking on feat setups for purg staff? Looking to pick my psyker back up after the patch

leaden thunder
#

same as before but quitude and warp unleashed instead of what ever you had it on before

#

wildfire isn't great on the purge ironically

ancient ivy
leaden thunder
ancient ivy
#

Ahead of the curve lets goooo

#

But how is Kinetic deflection these days? vs shield

leaden thunder
#

i only use deflection if i take deflector on the fs

#

or I want to use the bug on the two new ones

ancient ivy
#

? what bug

leaden thunder
#

they have deflector built in for some reason

ancient ivy
#

Alright thank you very much

leaden thunder
safe crystal
#

Its not exactly a bug, its old code they forgot to change on them. I recall someone saying they use the old code from beta, which had the Obscurus also have deflector on without a blessing, but that was changed for whatever reason

ancient ivy
#

This still a good staff or has the thinking changed?

steel flame
#

Why would that change

ancient ivy
#

Because patches

olive ember
#

because they stripped deflector off the obscurus and put it on a blessing

ancient ivy
past parrot
#

Seems plenty good to me

steel flame
#

If anything it's better

safe crystal
#

Flurry works now, its up to you if you want to slap that in

olive ember
#

but when they made the new force swords they used the CBT code as a base i guess

still hearth
#

Less warp resistance is now good

#

Because more peril is much better

#

And quelling is super fast

summer prairie
#

the template files for two FS variants have been there since beta

rare furnace
rare furnace
leaden thunder
#

dunno

#

I assume it's just the baseline block bullets

rare furnace
#

We need meat grinder to have one mob shooting like in overwatch to test

summer prairie
#

it's the same code as ogryn shield

rare furnace
#

Maybeye

still hearth
#

Just use mods

#

And you can test it

vale viper
#

how the new cleave force sword?

leaden thunder
#

very good

rare furnace
#

I prefer to mid sonic frontiers than crashtide more

#

Mod

vale viper
#

excellent. If its good thats all I ever wanted.

rare furnace
#

Yeahh go buy 40

#

And get god roll

olive ember
still hearth
#

New cleave sword is fine with slaughterer + deflector

#

You need some inane situations to hit 1 shot breakpoints on the infinite cleave damage portion

#

So might as well not try tbh

spice veldt
#

cleave sword's cleave distribution is almost the same as the power sword

still hearth
#

Isn't it the same just that it does less base damage

cyan notch
#

electronic girl

still hearth
#

Electromagnetic girl

spice veldt
#

psword heavy-special

#

illisi heavy-special

still hearth
#

Tfw they use different damage curves on cleave for no apparent reason

spice veldt
#

i guess the illisi does more damage to the second target

vale viper
spice veldt
#

you can annihilate ragers that are inside a horde

still hearth
#

This feels like the heavy sword vanguard vs the other type

spice veldt
#

the illisi's special with slaughterer has the cleave for that

vale viper
#

Yeah just let it feel like power sword for hordes and Im happy.

ancient ivy
still hearth
#

What is the other cleave swing called

cyan notch
#

relentless

spice veldt
#

the only caveat being that the illisi only has one charge per activation

still hearth
#

That's not even a bad thing

#

More peril

ancient ivy
#

And if not, opening swing gets you all the slaught stacks and you can just go crazy after that with lights tbh

spice veldt
#

strangely enough, multiple kills in a single swing don't seem to proc slaughterer properly

vale viper
#

what does the deimos specialize in then if Illisi cleaves?

spice veldt
#

i can kill like 20 enemies in a swing and only get 3 slaughterer stacks

still hearth
#

Deimos is mobility and single target

spice veldt
still hearth
#

And it is just aa nasty as Illisi

ancient ivy
twilit veldt
#

anyone got a good build for surge?

still hearth
#

Use Illisi

#

And probably Barrage

twilit veldt
#

i mean skill tree

#

or can i just keep this goin

still hearth
#

That works

twilit veldt
#

coolio

still hearth
#

Use AB on hordes, surge to save people, BB to kill

#

Illisi to clear melee

ember hornet
#

smh

#

use illisi to clear everything

still hearth
#

Illisi isn't a gun

#

Yet

ember hornet
#

it doesn't need to be lol

spice veldt
#

illisi mk7 glock-17

still hearth
#

I'm not dodging across the map to deal with gunners

spice veldt
#

i am

still hearth
#

2 lazy

spice veldt
#

hold w

#

hold shift

#

brrrrrrr

ember hornet
#

exactly

still hearth
#

Run 'n' Deflect when

steel flame
#

Clearly not lazy enough to not change profile pictures mid post

vale viper
still hearth
#

Duelling Sword was never good single target

#

It was just a mobility tool

spice veldt
#

duelling sword but better

#

without the better block cost i suppose

steel flame
#

Knife was way better than dueling sword anyway

ancient ivy
#

dueling is a survival stick. Deimos is a murder stick.

still hearth
#

So basically a way superior knife

vale viper
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lol I always found dueling sword as strictly single just pokes really fast.

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outside its utility

still hearth
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Yeah but it does pitiful damage

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Compared to actual single target weapons

steel flame
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Dueling swords claims to fame were both patched out. Dashing and demon hosts

ember hornet
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single target weapons like the illisi

still hearth
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The swords felt like worse knives with a bit more horde clear

spice veldt
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mkv has like 33% block cost

vale viper
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lots of peeps using Deimos on Gameslantern

golden tartan
spice veldt
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if you stack enough block eff and stamina, you can still tank daemonhosts

golden tartan
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Like the illisi is meta and all

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But the deimos is just fucking fun

ancient ivy
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they're both rad

vale viper
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interesting.

still hearth
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Or you use the block break cancel and tank it anyways thumbsup_ogryn

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Just another "feature"

spice veldt
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they fixed the guardbreak anim cancel it seems

vale viper
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Im just glad we got new swords. That was my gripe with my psyker. Now just need new staffs

still hearth
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Oh damn

vale viper
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or them all to be relevant

spice veldt
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is very sad

vale viper
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lol

still hearth
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I haven't used it in agea

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Sad

viral solstice
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it never existed

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in fact blocking doesnt exist

spice veldt
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crabs never existed

steel flame
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The Poor obscurus is now truly living up to it's name. Falling into true obscurity

still hearth
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All the staves are relevant

viral solstice
ember hornet
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I have it built into my brain to tap 1 constantly

still hearth
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Obscurus is now not relevant

ancient ivy
leaden thunder
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true