psyker-class

[orchid shadow]

I think I had at one point. I just wasn't sure how many kills I'd get out of it as I'm trying to push into the higher health pools of Hi-4 and up.

[shadow wigeon]

Just rip with Nexus then. You can keep an eye out for how long it takes you to kill a shooter, and that will give you a sense of what to do to proc Barrage.

Getting more damage out of Nexus is easier now so it's harder to recommend Barrage.

[lethal folio]

Deimos+Recon

[orchid shadow]

I guess I can weave in some Primary with animation canceling to help trigger it

Good lord.

[fading shoal]

Kinetic Deflection at level 20?

[olive ember]

Yes

[spice veldt]

since a big caveat of the force swords is that the default block cost is higher than any other melee

[lethal folio]

no they don't.

[spice veldt]

did they changed it?

[lethal folio]

1 inner 1.5 outer.

[spice veldt]

I did some pre-patch testing it it consumed more stamina bars to block a groaner's attack

[lethal folio]

Did you compare it to dueling sword?

[spice veldt]

between all the melee weapons

i jotted my results here

[kindred anchor]

is there pswords on there

[spice veldt]

nay

should be pretty to calculate tho
block a hit, take the stamina% lost from the block, and multiply it by the max # of stamina bars to get a rough idea of the bars that you lost from blocking

[lethal folio]

oh

More bugs!

[fierce sinew]

lmao

literal fatfinger

[lethal folio]

K for now it will be 1.5/1.5 so you're right it is the worst blocker.

[spice veldt]

WHAT IT WASN'T INTENTIONAL

[fierce sinew]

it was intentionnnal

[spice veldt]

oh just the misspelling

[shadow wigeon]

Correct

So uhh... KD is blocking bullets without Deflector for me.

[lethal folio]

that's just new force swords

they have can block ranged by default.

[shadow wigeon]

Hold on a second.

what

[feral verge]

yeah

illisi and deimos have deflector built in

likely a bug

[shadow wigeon]

Ok, I assume a bug.

[fierce sinew]

you can still roll deflector (the blessing) on them, which would be some next level trolling if it was intentional

intentionnnal seems more likely

[shadow wigeon]

Un doutebdly

[cold geode]

said it before, but i think they did the deflector thing intentionally, they are gathering data on whether they should put it on all the FS's going forward and remove the blessing or stay the other way around

[shadow wigeon]

That's a difficult test to run if people don't even know that it's working. Testing to see how many people just hope it blocks bullets even though nothing indicates so? I guess, who knows.

[spice veldt]

i highly doubt it because the new force swords also have that old "feature" where swapping to them makes you momentarily move faster

[cold geode]

if they were going to fix it, they would have done it on the hot fix that fixed the power sword

[shadow wigeon]

Well, the severity of the bug is likely smaller.

But I see what you mean

[olive ember]

Should just make deflector a default FS then

[lethal folio]

A lot of the new weapons are still using the same code from beta.

[olive ember]

And then rework the blessing

The weapon switch to increase move speed is still a thing

On the new force swords kek

[safe crystal]

Its easier for them to remove deflector from the FS than make a whole new blessing to replace deflector

So it'll get removed

[sleek pebble]

Big L

[shadow wigeon]

Reflector?

[safe crystal]

Thats extra work, i dont see Obese Megalodon doing that

[shadow wigeon]

What if we buy extra cosmetics to fund the development.

[olive ember]

They’ll pour the money into making new cosmetics

[shadow wigeon]

Acceptable outcome

[olive ember]

Why else would they have a working mtx shop before a crafting system

[sleek pebble]

They need to do something big. My original V2 group tried darktide and immediately shelved it

[olive ember]

Idk what they can do outside of new game mode tbh

I mean new subclass will be fun to tinker with I suppose but

[spice veldt]

new mission objectives and more complex map environments

[olive ember]

New objectives yes

[safe crystal]

Honestly, its potential wasted. They should've delayed the game, but it was pushed out in a broken state, and its taken half a year to get it into a position where they're finally drip feeding the already made weapons to us as 'brand new'. Same for the MTX shop with the massive amount of stuff already in it, they're slowly drip feeding it now

[olive ember]

What you mean by more complex map environments

[safe crystal]

I mean, wheres the flash missions?

[olive ember]

Lmao shhh

[spice veldt]

I think the map sections so far feel a bit too open to me

I'd like something more winding and claustrophobic

hab dreyko 2.0

[olive ember]

Rly? I want more open maps

Like if we are on the outskirts of the hive city

[spice veldt]

that'd be nice too

[sleek pebble]

Gimme both

[olive ember]

But I’m just afraid maps aren’t enough tbh

Cuz realistically speaking they’ll release like 2 maps

At a time

And after the 10th time on those two maps they’ll prob just be like any other map

I mean thinking about it even l4d2 had 3 gamemodes baked in. You have normal games, survival mode, and then versus

And then map variety wise you had a bunch of modded shit

[sleek pebble]

Remember V2 versus? Pepperidge farm doesn't

[grizzled jasper]

It’ll come one day

Our grandchildren will play it

[autumn smelt]

so what exactly is the difference between the deimos and obscurus force sword

[grizzled jasper]

Then they’ll say it’s garbage

[autumn smelt]

just attack patterns?

[olive ember]

Deimos has better single target

[spice veldt]

attack patterns pretty much

[autumn smelt]

preferences between the two?

[spice veldt]

and the 2nd heavy being a heavy thrust with increased damage (about 2.5x-ish higher than the usual heavy)

[lethal folio]

I say the Deimos is better in all aspects.

[olive ember]

disgust

Obscures move set is better horde clear mainly on its heavy 2

That’s about it

Idk how they would make obscures relevant again with the deimos around tbh

They are so similar

[sleek pebble]

Buy both and try them in the psykinarium?

[olive ember]

So one will p much always be better than the other

We have all of em

[autumn smelt]

i mean in this case theres a bigger moveset difference and stat difference in these two than the vet powerswords lol

[halcyon fractal]

Deimos has the advantage of lots of stabs that are exceptionally easy to spam headshot whatever comes to melee range

So the hordeclear on it isnt even worse id say

[autumn smelt]

thats what ive noticed

im having a way easier time horde clearing than ive every had with any weapon that wasnt a power sword while leveling a character

purely cuz it does such good damage to heads with attacks that are easy to hit to the head at a very fast rate

[olive ember]

It’s prob noticeable if you are in rly thick hordes but

Most people pair it with purge anyways so

[autumn smelt]

its also nice when i just walk up to a gunner and just click once and his head fucking explodes

thats neat

[olive ember]

No slaughterer stacks?

Idr deimos breakpoints

[fierce sinew]

not having to stack slaughterer is a bigger deal than people make out

[autumn smelt]

by the emperor im level 23

[fierce sinew]

slaughterer is busted obviously but it does have some setup cost

[spice veldt]

yeah, it's one of the reasons why i liked pairing it with the prepatch bloodthirsty on the obscurus

[feral verge]

who here

is excited to receive epic and game chaning loot

from melk

in around 30 mins

[spice veldt]

crickets

[fierce sinew]

3.5 psykers rolling and my expectations couldn't be lower

...surely when all 5 are online he'll give me purg warp nexus

[feral verge]

i just need t4 unstable power

and my main build is done

thats it

[primal plume]

The datamined outfit for Psyker is Empath Witch

which follows the naming convention of Storm Witch

So sounds like biomancer is confirmed

[olive ember]

I mean in code our psyker is called the biomancer

It’s fucking weird

[primal plume]

probably just internal naming for programmers

iirc

[lethal folio]

What is epecially weird is the psykinetic is called biomancer, but all the biomancer stuff is on a different named class.

[primal plume]

storm witch is called something else in the code too

im really psyched to see what we can get

[primal plume]

since biomancer is alot more defined than what we have currently

wut

[olive ember]

So we got two different biomancers, just that the one in code is actually psykinetic and the one that’s actually called biomancer is actually called gunslinger

Apparently

[lethal folio]

You found the names!

[primal plume]

"I see your prognisis. You have a knife in you. 50000 Dockets, please"

[lethal folio]

I don't have to conceal it anymore.

Yeah protectorate has the lightning hands which would be the trailer psyker we saw.

[primal plume]

dont we already have zappy hands

[lethal folio]

Kinetic needs a stick to zap.

[olive ember]

There was lightning hands in trailer psyker?

[lethal folio]

Not class spotlight, the main trailer.

[primal plume]

our ability though is charging a bolt of lightning to blow up someones head

the dome thing sounds cool

[olive ember]

Where it be?

[primal plume]

could be clutch when lots of ranged are attacking

presuming it stops all bullets

[lethal folio]

https://youtu.be/4JUsHpTWVa0?t=64

[halcyon fractal]

I hope "biomancer" isnt healer if that ends up being a thing

[olive ember]

I mean I always thought that was a cinematic trailer thing

tbh I’m a support main normally so yeah

I’d be fine with a healer XD

[halcyon fractal]

Understandable

[primal plume]

that just looks like a dramatized shock staff attack

[halcyon fractal]

I do love utility and stuff but straight up healing? Too far for me

[primal plume]

if it is a healer

[halcyon fractal]

Altho by the description in that thingy it does not sound super healery

[primal plume]

its probably just toughness healing

and not hp heals\

raw hp heals on demand would be too much

would be broken imo

[halcyon fractal]

Yes

[primal plume]

medipacks would be useless with a biomancer

in most cases anyway

[halcyon fractal]

Supportive utility would be fun to mess around with tho

I also wonder if there are gonna be new penances for new classes

[autumn smelt]

i feel like that would be too weak tho

[halcyon fractal]

I just hope they are less painful...

[primal plume]

it will probably be as much a healer as kerillians sister of the thorn is a healer

replace healing with "toughness"

Either way

im excited

[halcyon fractal]

Fair enough

[primal plume]

were way overdue for new stuff

[halcyon fractal]

Upon thinking about it more same

[shadow quail]

I bet vet gets the first new class

[primal plume]

God i hope they release classes for everyone all at once

[halcyon fractal]

Surely they release 1 for every class at the same time

[shadow quail]

Didn't do it like that in VT2

[primal plume]

it did

and its awful lmao

everyone wants to be the new thing

if you didnt play that character then sucks to be you

plus

[halcyon fractal]

Vt2 also had 3 careers per character at launch and the newly released ones were dlc

[primal plume]

wernt we supposed to get subclasses by now?

[shadow quail]

I thought they said 1 class every 3 months

[primal plume]

I imagine they have a lot of them ready to go but waiting for the warhammer event

[halcyon fractal]

Its a different situation so itd make sense we would get 1 for every class at once

Id not well uhh

Sucks for non vet players lmao

[halcyon fractal]

[olive ember]

I mean

[olive ember]

It’s been a quarter

[primal plume]

i could see this being our blitz ability

[olive ember]

Feelsbadman

[primal plume]

a cast ability to heal ourself

[shadow quail]

They delayed to fix the game, but can't see them suddenly dropping 4 classes if their goal was one a quarter, and they are behind

[primal plume]

but in all actuallity

we probably wont get heals

but things like iron arm and enfeeble

[olive ember]

If we do it’ll be something like kerillian where it only activates conditionally

[primal plume]

warp speed could be cool too

[olive ember]

Pls no

[primal plume]

pls yes

all 4 psykers

[olive ember]

We don’t need more speed runners who die instantly

[primal plume]

zoomies

[olive ember]

I’ve dealt with enough knife zealots

[primal plume]

or use it to make people run off ledges

[grizzled jasper]

Sacrifice health for speed boost

[primal plume]

unexpected speed boost

[shadow quail]

I wonder if the new classes will be paid dlc

[grizzled jasper]

Probably will be

[primal plume]

I feel that was the original goal. But someone went "hey, why dont we hold them anmd release them in bulk with the event?"

Also

tyranids

i imagine its a big dlc

either all in one tyranid stuff

[shadow quail]

There is a ton of stuff they could do for DLC

[primal plume]

or options to buy individually

[olive ember]

Meh I don’t even want to think about dlc

Not until each class has like 3 subclasses or wte

[orchid shadow]

I wish a pure BB build was possible. Having 5-6 second ults is kinda funny.

[lethal folio]

It is possible

[orchid shadow]

It's just me laughing maniacally through the whole map

[feral verge]

yeah its possible

but good? nah

cuz it isnt fast enough

[orchid shadow]

Yeah, I just ran it for giggles on Malice, 11% from curios, and Quicken with Inner Tranquility and Aura

[feral verge]

i hope it fucked with ppl's heads

i feel like noobs would think you were hacking infinite ult

[rocky cedar]

I still can't believe they made wrack passable then immediately erased it with the warp unleashed buff

So dumb

[wide tiger]

Hey, just be happy we have warp unleashed lol

[rocky cedar]

I'm not

It's dumb

[pearl lion]

I think there may have been some higher priority updates than new classes lmao

[wide tiger]

You know there are far worse problems to have

ie psykers state on release

[rocky cedar]

I think Psyker now probably doing better DPS with an Antax than Zealot is extremely questionable design

[hollow current]

melks shop giving both my of my psykers guns again

pls stop

[clear heath]

lol it was decent for one patch
amazing

[pearl lion]

Here is my suggestion to FS. Give us a currency that we can earn to spend at Melk's to get a specific weapon at his store front's quality level (purple or orange).
Could do it that you get one coin per difficulty of mission completed, have it cost like 20 coins to get a thing

[wet jacinth]

Milk: no

[sleek pebble]

Talk of dlc, was something announced or just speculation?

[rocky cedar]

I would just like an actually decent amount of currency for doing weeklies

That would be enough for me

[pearl lion]

Still RNG based, but it would at least alleviate the issue of new weapons diluting the pool

[olive ember]

Nah just random people talking about content that could come out

[restive slate]

I want Melk Dailies

[sleek pebble]

Rip

[pearl lion]

Also yeah, Melk dailies need to be a thing

[fresh steeple]

oh shit oh fuck

[olive ember]

Tbh I’d be pretty pissed it a dlc was announced

[fresh steeple]

I just rolled that from a gray

[orchid shadow]

Does anyone even buy his Mystery boxes?

[olive ember]

If they trying to sell me a new dlc when the game just got put into a semi decent state

Not anymore

We used to buy his gacha boxes

[pearl lion]

No. You can get greys. Why would you spend it on the mystery boxes when you can just wait for the next day's

[olive ember]

But then brunt’s came out

[restive slate]

Replace Mystery Boxes with daily logins, done

[olive ember]

And it’s literally just a better system

[robust relic]

ranged crit damage doesnt do much on a purg right?

[restive slate]

Get a random box with every day log in

[fresh steeple]

acceptable

[rocky cedar]

It doesn't do much on anything

[hollow steeple]

what should I do about the perks?
swap out unyielding for flak or unarmored?

[feral verge]

you want crit chance, not crit damage

[rocky cedar]

Probably least of all on Purg

[olive ember]

Pgood personally I’d swap out infested since illi already shreds them

Dunno tho

[feral verge]

you could do maniac

[robust relic]

sad about the perks, not sure it's worth the buy at 3k milkers with those perks

[feral verge]

i had flak on mine, but found i prefer maniac on it, cuz it does enough damage as is

[hollow steeple]

maniac does sound good
I do tend to bonk mutants, ragers and flamers with it

[feral verge]

you could rip that blessing off @robust relic

[robust relic]

my current equipped has it at rank 4 already, so if I get a new one I will rip from current...

[feral verge]

oh aight

[hollow steeple]

actually should i just swap out infested? that's just dogs and poxwalkers, right?

[feral verge]

nah imo unyielding is meh on illisi

a mainly hordeclear weapon

i personally use BB on ogryns and shit anyway

[robust relic]

and bursters

[hollow steeple]

lol who hits bursters with melee

[hollow current]

ogryns

[feral verge]

my illisi

[hollow steeple]

alright, fair enough then

[feral verge]

need t4 unstable

[robust relic]

chads

[hollow steeple]

pushing them and bonking them are different lol

[hollow current]

Is Exorcist even good atm with quell speed being so fast in general?

[robust relic]

+dmg to poxwalkers/groaners is just a better +dmg infested imo

[lethal folio]

Melee hits often have bigger stagger distance and better hit detection

[feral verge]

im running exorcist with quietitude

for toughness regen

i get a shitload

from battle meditation, toughness on kill, and exorcist

[hollow current]

Does it proc even at 0 peril?

[feral verge]

idk, im always at high peril

cuz illisi makes that easy as fuck

[cold geode]

low resistance allows you to get to 80% peril quickly

[hollow current]

yeah charging the illi is quick

[cold geode]

doing special attack over and over again

[restive slate]

I'm considering Exorcist Illisi build

[feral verge]

i will post the video for the 100th time

[hollow current]

as much as I like the deimos I kinda got hooked on how smooth using the illi is.

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UyAv2rMiM

cuz its the best video ive ever made

that's 41% peril resistance

[olive ember]

Still clickbait

Says 5 seconds, but video is 7 seconds long

SMH

[feral verge]

technically, there's time inbetween when i start rubbing

[olive ember]

Even accounting that

Still longer than 5 sec

[hollow current]

I used the Illi with my new psyker and slapped slaughterer 3 on it and it made everything easy.

[feral verge]

the 'cum' animation beigns at 5 seconds

before that, even

[runic hornet]

I'm gonna buy it for the blesings but man if only the base stats were better

[feral verge]

yeah i'd run slaughterer and unstable power on a dedicated horde clear illisi, potentially

i have one with that

[restive slate]

With slaughterer, Illisi doesn't even need to charge to horde clear

[cold geode]

All or nothing IV any good now that they inverted it?

[feral verge]

but this is the illisi that goes on my main build, which uses purga

this is the other illisi

shame about the carapace dmg

and the high warp resist

[restive slate]

Worth ignoring Deflector?

[runic hornet]

right now the illisi has deflector built in LMAO

no need for the blessing

[feral verge]

rn deflector is on illisi and edimos built in

likely a bug

[restive slate]

Well we can't rely on that haha

[feral verge]

i dont use deflector much on this

even with it built in

[restive slate]

Even when ripper Can Opener was a bug, I trained myself to stab before blasting Crushers

[fresh steeple]

"likely"

[feral verge]

i use it a bit on my obscurus

[feral verge]

yeah?

[fresh steeple]

as if it's not 100%

[feral verge]

you never know with fatshark

i think its a bug

95% sure

[fresh steeple]

I know enough to know that a blessing that's built into specific weapons is a bug

[feral verge]

congrats

shieldgryn obscurus

[fresh steeple]

they've nerfed several of my blessings that were less obviously bugs than that one. Good bug while it lasts, though.

[restive slate]

If next update makes Deflector built in, I'd be guffawing so hard

[feral verge]

yee

[wide tiger]

deceptively bad

[feral verge]

that finesse

[fresh steeple]

I welcome the day. Lovely buff if that happens

[feral verge]

rip

[restive slate]

80% mobility

Obscurus dodges for days

[feral verge]

i need an amazing deimos

but this the best i got

i need low warp resist

something below 60

[olive ember]

Ngl my brain thought it was a funny innuendo for like 3 min before I remembered that guffaw is actually a word

[pearl lion]

Could do a weekly thing, day 1 cash, day 2, melkbux, day 3 plasteel, day 4 diamantine, day 5 plasteel and diamantine, day 6 an orange item, day 7, a small bundle of aquilas

[restive slate]

We can guffaw together~

[olive ember]

Mmm log in rewards for that sweet sweet player retention

[fresh steeple]

no one had a thing to say about a gray staff rolling into double desired three-tiers? 😛 I at least hoped for a "That a boy, internet rando"

[restive slate]

Plasteel dailies, retent me all you want if that becomes a thing

[pearl lion]

Yeah it'd probably be nicer if it was like a 5 day thing per week

But I get what you mean, I also don't like the concept of feeling like its compulsory to login every day

[olive ember]

I mean it’s not rly meta

It’s off-meta tho for funny crit strike + wildfire

[fresh steeple]

that was my singular purpose in looking for it

[olive ember]

tho warp nexus + blazing spirit is apparently better on trauma cuz bigger explosion radius

[fresh steeple]

game's not hard enough to necessitate meta cookie cutter comps anyway, unless your singular goal is to masochistically run, like, High Intensity Blackout Damnation maps

[olive ember]

High int shock troop apparently is an experience

[fresh steeple]

I prefer keeping Shockwave on Trauma since it's such a nice team buff

is the one I have on hand for that

[pearl lion]

So I haven't actually used the Fire Ult talent. I use the fast brainburst one. Is the fire one considered the best?

[fresh steeple]

but I really don't like Trauma. Scatters mobs too much, and the peril is much more irritating compared to VS

[restive slate]

I was overwhelmed the first time playing shock gauntlet but it's quite fun once you know how they spawn

[olive ember]

🤔 honestly swap the blazing spirit for flurry

And you would basically have a meta trauma

Prob swap crit chance tho but eh

[fresh steeple]

I would if I actually used Trauma. DOn't enjoy the gameplay

[olive ember]

XD

Fair

[fresh steeple]

it's made worse by the fact that I hold Trauma in low regard because it keeps screwing with me for Surge

I've now seen Surge three times on Melk, and always on Trauma

[restive slate]

Ngl Trauma went from my least fave to most fave

[fresh steeple]

so Trauma stays in my bag as punishment

just wanted a rapid fire Voidstrike for the lulz, but noooooo. Always Trauma.

[restive slate]

So you're saying that you've been... TRAUMATIZED

[fresh steeple]

agreed, I'm saying that

[mental junco]

which dodge limit should i trust lol (ok the right side says 5

[north cradle]

I buy?

[olive ember]

🤔 it’s

[mental junco]

no...

[runic hornet]

meh stats, rank 3 blessings, save your melkcoin

[olive ember]

The perks are both bad, neither blessings are t4, decent spread but low roll overall at 333

[mental junco]

cara is nonsense stat is so bad

[runic hornet]

melkcoin is either for very good weapons with stats+perks+blessings that are ALL good, or, adding level 4 blessings

[mental junco]

blessing is also that useful on this one

[olive ember]

If you literally don’t have a purge or like it’s some Garbo tier 50% burn then maybe it’s worth getting

But if you have something even close to that one then no

[mental junco]

i like a terrifying barrage and the cant interrupt

[north cradle]

I thought Warp Nexus was the one I wanted for double stacks

[restive slate]

Terrifying Barrage... Yea that blessing exists haha

[olive ember]

It is

Meta is warp nexus + warp flurry

On purge and surge

[mental junco]

terrifying barrage just keep most enemy at bay while burning them, i kinda like it...

[north cradle]

I'll show you guys my current Purgatus and you can be the judge

[elfin roost]

NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION

[sacred pumice]

Up for sale from Milk, might be more rare than an actual good roll

[mental junco]

lol

[north cradle]

My current Purgatus

[sacred pumice]

I've never even seen the level one perk before

[north cradle]

It was a lot better than I remembered

[olive ember]

Yeah no just keep your current one

Swap nexus for a t3 or t4 nexus

[north cradle]

If I could ever get Nexus

[mental junco]

my burna!

[olive ember]

And swap carapace for flak or maniac

[north cradle]

Wait why don't I just buy the Melk Purgatus and slap the T3 Nexus on there

[olive ember]

You could

General rule of thumb is to buy t4 blessings but

[mental junco]

btw why Purgatus need crit chance?

[olive ember]

Up to you rly

Cuz purg applies 2 stacks of dot whenever it crits

[mental junco]

doesnt it use the dot to cause dmg?

[north cradle]

Crit gives two stacks of Soulblaze instead of one

[mental junco]

ok

should i looking for crit in perk?

[rare furnace]

If we had couloir pallets of country flags haha

[olive ember]

On purge it’s personal preference

Some people run typical flak + maniac

Other people swap one of the two for crit chance

[rare furnace]

I went full crit because the server decided

[feral verge]

i did it

was finally able to win a round of high int damn shock

makes me wish we could actually pick and choose what modes we wanted

cuz its by far my fav mode

[north cradle]

What were the Vermintide 2 hub hotkeys? I think H was the mission screen?

[north cradle]

Or if they showed up at random instead of in waves

[rare furnace]

You know I would only want an elite killer that just said mvp killed most specials

And then KS would be a thing

Very fun

[autumn smelt]

do the elites have to be different kinds for pick and mix or is it just 5 elites

[rare furnace]

Penace?

5 whatever elites

[autumn smelt]

ok thats not as bad

[rare furnace]

Use the feat that speeds up your bb

[autumn smelt]

ik

i dont have it yet tho

lole

[rare furnace]

You can hit them 1-2 times with your elector or flame stuff

And then boom them

Boom first then ult to get speed and do the others

I did it by accident before getting the feat as well

Haha

But will be probably hard

[graceful aurora]

Anyone ever surrdner a weapon to get a blessing and then not have the blessing after?

[rare furnace]

Nop

[graceful aurora]

well heck then.

[rare furnace]

You get the blessing for that type of weapon if you new in this

[graceful aurora]

dangit

[rare furnace]

Also remember it’s level don’t look wrong page lol

Yep

[hollow current]

the one that says right above assassin has the true dodge count.

[graceful aurora]

yeah no i've got nothign for surge staves and I def gave up one

[rare furnace]

Pray for rng

[graceful aurora]

Well that sucks I gave up my good flamer staff and got nothing for it 😢

[fresh steeple]

if you didn't have another flame staff, why did you sacrifice the first to begin with?

could just spam purchases of gray flame staves, perhaps

[graceful aurora]

from the token vender or the cash ventder?

[fresh steeple]

the cash vendor. You can select gray versions of any weapon you want as of two patches ago

you probably won't get one with good stats unless you buy a lot of them, but you can at least get something quickly if you had literally no other purgatus staves

[fallow falcon]

What can I do to improve this sword?

[restive slate]

If you don't need Deflector, can replace with Slaughterer

[fallow falcon]

What about perks?

Not familiar with the meta for melee perks

[restive slate]

Normally, flak and maniac is most sought after

Can replace carapace as there aren't many of those enemies to deal with

And the Deimos is already strong enough by default to deal with them

[fallow falcon]

8% elite won't really make a difference either though

[restive slate]

Which is why it's gonna be a hard pick

[fallow falcon]

I've already got a perfect rolled shredder, so maniac kills should be covered fine

Could go flak instead for that reason

[sonic coral]

... all you need are 4 stacks to clear a room w/ AB now

using warp unleashed

with 4 stacks do your F like usual, then up your peril (easiest with illisi)

it amps the tick damage enough to finish them

I suppose kinetic flayer isn't really worth the tradeoff still though

since 6 warp stacks + unleashed is exponentially better (literally) still

all the same, you could run this feat setup if you wanted an easier/more regular toughness boost with charges

thanks for attending my tedx

[fierce sinew]

quietude is juiced now, no need to nerf your damage for essence harvest

[sonic coral]

very true

[cyan notch]

yea more damage with warp battery is more damage

[sonic coral]

so is cerebral lacerations the ace level 15 pick now? or psykinetic's aura and just making sure to BB all the time instead of passive essence harvest

I guess AB means you're still getting 10% from staff kills

[fresh steeple]

has Quietude ever not been juiced?

[mellow dock]

Good or sht?

[past parrot]

Damage roll kinda low, but plenty fine to use until you get better stated one to slap Slaughter IV onto

[mellow dock]

Im thinking of putting on Deflector IV on it

[past parrot]

Slaughterer IV is a tremendous W

[mellow dock]

yes with Slaughterer

[kind jay]

it has built in deflector

just use it liek that until its either fixed (or not)

[crimson kiln]

Wait built in deflecter?

How have I not noticed

[mellow dock]

so bullets dont damage you?

[kind jay]

bullets that dont come from a sniper or a shotgunner

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-drink-stare-gif-15410130

[crimson kiln]

Executor or Blazing spirit? BS works well with IV Shred

[mellow dock]

nice

[crimson kiln]

Also Unstable power is a joke, right?

[mellow dock]

what Perks are good on the Deimos?

[crimson kiln]

The same tier of Executor gives its max buff after one Weak hit

Also rip the perks, which 8% should I keep?

[fierce sinew]

not a joke, just a stacking buff with a mistaken tooltip

[subtle linden]

Elites include melee bois right?

Might as well cleave zerkers and ragers in the horde with illisis while u roll the specialists to something else

Cuz ain’t specialists like shotgunners and whatever

[fierce sinew]

specifically, you get a stack of [listed number]% at 20, 40, 60, and 80% peril thresholds

[crimson kiln]

So it's 3% stacking up to 4/5 times?

[fierce sinew]

so it's roughly 4 times as good as the tooltip

yes

[crimson kiln]

I think I only ever saw the buff tick up to 4

at 100%

Hmm

[subtle linden]

I’d personally roll it to slaughterer

[fierce sinew]

you have a lower ceiling at the expense of less startup cost

[crimson kiln]

Guess I reblessed it too soon

This is where I'd put my slughterer, IF I HAD ONE

[subtle linden]

Even like slaughter 2-3 is better

[crimson kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[fierce sinew]

it's easy to have it stacked all the way up when you pull it out, unlike slaughterer/decimator/executor/etc

[subtle linden]

I was using it as a placeholder until I got a 4 in the Melky Milkers store

[crimson kiln]

Yea super easy to stay at 100% with the force sword

i wish blessing could cross weapons if they're exactly the same

[fierce sinew]

assuming you kept the shred you can always play around with different things in the other slot to see what you like while you wait for melk/lucky upgrade

[crimson kiln]

Like Savage Sweep has the same numbers for a lot of weapons so let it go to any weapon that uses the same X%'s

[fierce sinew]

I'd rather banking a blessing gave you every blessing with the same name even if they aren't the same tbh

[crimson kiln]

Yea might try out the Soulblaze on Crit blessing

[subtle linden]

This is mine and it slaps everything in the game ngl

[crimson kiln]

But to be fair, some weapons have slightly different blessings with same name for balance reasons, so I could cencede those

[fierce sinew]

would the world really stop turning if your force sword slaughterer unlocked power sword slaughterer and vice versa

[crimson kiln]

Booooooo

Stop being lucky

Dude the MkV slaps so hard. It's so much fun

[subtle linden]

Ya but I was using slaughter 2 for a while then shopped a 3

It was like going for super Saiyan to super saiyan 3

[fierce sinew]

I don't hate them balancing blessings differently between weapons, and there are good reasons for the pools to be different, it just seems like artificially extending an already annoying grind not to have them interunlockable

but maybe that's the point

[crimson kiln]

Oh it absolutely is

[shut ether]

He doesn't know Pepelaugh

[subtle linden]

Yeah I was annoyed cuz I got headtaker iv on an antax but it won’t apply on my zealots heavy sword

[crimson kiln]

Should I reroll 8% elites or 8% specs? On Mk V Force

[fierce sinew]

I'm 3.5/5 the way though leveling a 5 psyker roster for more melk chances at specifically t4 warp nexus on purg

[subtle linden]

I would roll specialists since gunners and shit die in one shot anyway

[crimson kiln]

True

[subtle linden]

Elites are ragers maulers crushers and bulwarks

Aka big melee bois in the horde

[fierce sinew]

specialist damage on that sword is really just bad maniac damage

[crimson kiln]

I rerolled to T3 Maniac lmao

[subtle linden]

Maybe 25 flak?

Or 5 crit chance

Up to you

[crimson kiln]

Let the click games begin

[cyan notch]

this is the way

[subtle linden]

U do have the shred iv

Become the crit blader

[fierce sinew]

suddenly over double the bonus damage to the specialist you actually hit with a sword (mutant) and gravy in the form rager etc

[ripe yacht]

How's Riposte on a Deimos?

[subtle linden]

Ngl once I got 5 stacks of slaughter and 5 stacks of rending I one shot ragers and berserkers

[weak sapphire]

Should I trade my staff on picture 2 for picture 1

[cyan notch]

yes melk one is pretty much perfect

[ornate hamlet]

Isnt carapace dmg on purgatus useless

[subtle linden]

Pretty much ya. Carapace op

[crimson kiln]

Actually didn't take too long

About 4 minutes of clicking

[subtle linden]

So 30% crit just from blessing and perk

The innate crit chance

[crimson kiln]

Gonna try out the Soulblaze spread talent

Gonna miss my auto BB tho

[subtle linden]

I’m assuming once u get slaughter ur just gonna bless out of the soulblaze?

[crimson kiln]

Correct

[subtle linden]

Sounds good to me

[crimson kiln]

Or something else that's +power

[subtle linden]

Just slaughterer

[crimson kiln]

Might try out the repeated weak hit

[sonic coral]

so is there a good blazing spirit build yet?

[crimson kiln]

Or the +power based on peril if I get another

I think you're looking at it lol. All the crit chance and then talent to spread it

Should I take the BB soulblaze talent or the +damage based on peril talent?

[sonic coral]

I was running the BB soulblaze but now I'm doing +damage

[primal plume]

I beat the game

[sonic coral]

I still need the monstrosity kill and the blowing myself up in a bunch of elites

but I don't like asking for help and I don't obviously try for either of them "secretly" for pub matches or anything

it would be nice if fatshark would change the requirements but I'll probably just continue ignoring them otherwise

[vestal raven]

just overload in a damnation horde

ez

[fierce sinew]

in damnation your suicide bomb kills nothing

outside of specific situations that people try to farm (shotgunners in commsplex etc)

hunting grounds is the closest thing to a "practical" environment to unlock it naturally I think

[vestal raven]

i got mine in damnation

[tough mesa]

i accidentally exploded in a run and our team happen to be overwhelmed, what a great coincidence

is anyone down for a few runs btw?

[vestal raven]

killed like 3 maulers and 2 shotgunners maybe?

[fierce sinew]

that's the only penance I don't have, I think I blow up once every 50 hours of game time or something. I can't imagine many people get it naturally

and of the ones that do it's probably 90% server related input drop

like you're at 100%, you try to swap to your melee and push attack

[knotty hinge]

you guys think illsi or deimos is better

[primal plume]

we still dont have these

[fierce sinew]

the first input disappears into the warp

kaboom

[fierce sinew]

of the two I like deimos more but they're really just specialized for different things

[steel flame]

I got it by accident after getting greedy with trauma staff, just happened to be 4 flack ragers running at me so I didn't ult

[restive slate]

Both, both are good

[steel flame]

Both are great

[exotic tulip]

Is this a good base?

Or nearly the best

[steel flame]

Only thing with Deimos is that it's special sucks, but the light 1 heavy 2 combo does so much damage that you can never fire the special and not miss anything

[fierce sinew]

you'd rather the warp res and mobility rolls were flipped

[exotic tulip]

Really? How much is that extra sprint and dodge

[elfin roost]

Youre basically the fastest thing on the map with legs

[fierce sinew]

a lot more noticeable than the activation peril cost you never use

[exotic tulip]

I guess extra peril generated isn't the worst

[fierce sinew]

it's not worth using most of the time

just double click instead

light->heavy is juiced

[exotic tulip]

Just got riposte 3 as my blue blessing

[cyan notch]

i dont think specials count for blowing up only elites

[weak sapphire]

Did someone say penancetiem?

[exotic tulip]

Basically a powersword slash

[pearl lion]

I actually did monstrosity penance yesterday 100% legit no cheese and I still don't have the explosion one

It's such a garbo penance lmao

If it did a little bit more damage so it reliably killed ragers, or had a couple more metres lethal range it would maybe be OK

But at the mo, if they're undamaged it'll only kill gunners and shotgunners and having 3 of those all together and not running away from you to shoot is rare

And thats assuming your team doesn't blap them before you spend 10 or so seconds exploding yourself

Or you go down before you explode

[fierce sinew]

monstro penance is realistic in clutch situations, suicide bomb is the only one I have left and I could see myself never getting

maybe private match it when/if we finally get that

[kind jay]

you already can

tho it needs 2 people minimum

[fierce sinew]

you can start a match with 3 bots?

that's what I mean, actual private match

[kind jay]

ah yeah

[pearl lion]

For monstro I was running a BB build and I just asked my team to let me try it. I was with two ogryns and one of them charged it a couple of times, but other than that I just solod it

[kind jay]

i dont get the reason for it. just fatshark things

[pearl lion]

The problem is that bots will still kill things

[fierce sinew]

it's pretty easy to get your bots killed off at the beginning of a map and never pick them up

[pearl lion]

Yeah true, its a pain though haha

I think how I'm going to wind up getting it is just repeatedly entering 3s and waiting for a starting horde, triggering it, letting the bots die and trying to bomb them while they're getting wailed on

[fierce sinew]

it's not that bad, especially if you're only planning to play far enough into a map to corner some ragers and surge them in place while you blow up or whatever

[pearl lion]

But that relies on a group of ragers being there and no one joining in the meantime

Oh thats a good shout actually. I should use surge

[fierce sinew]

people replacing the captive bots is definitely the bottleneck right now

[pearl lion]

Other than doing 1 more mission of SOME TYPE on 4, its the only penance I have left for cosmetics

[fierce sinew]

especially now with illisi executing the bomb itself is pretty straightforward, you can just surge->swap, charge a couple times while they're cc'd, repeat

[pearl lion]

That's what I've been doing

Using illisi at least

Spam charge

I should probably go with a low warp resistance weapon

I was SO close yesterday, but I charged it one too few times

I thought I had triggered perils but I hadn't

Only took out one rager

[crimson kiln]

These are the only two orange relics I've had drop -_-

Only two on my psyker*

[steel flame]

Specials count yes

I helped a buddy blow up a bunch of dogs

He got it

[fallow falcon]

I've been enjoying Quicken but I'm finding that I hardly end up using the increased CD, its mainly just the convenience of 2 warp charges per BB

Any suggestion on improving this talent set?

[pearl lion]

I run toughness on warp kill (assuming you're using a staff), power for peril, move while venting, 6 charges and fast BB

Can't remember one of them

I think line 3?

[fallow falcon]

Also been using 2 HP curios and one with 3 stamina, not sure if the stamina is worth it though

[pearl lion]

Now that charges tick down rather than vanishing, I find it's pretty easy maintaining them

Force swords have pretty low stamina so I would probably recommend one stamina curio

If only for ressing

Also I use VS and Illisi so I can manage hordes and most specials and elites with them

And BB big bois

Peril -> power means you can two shot ogryns at 6 charges

And fast BB means you can do it in like 4 seconds

Oh this is on Heresy

Damnation youll have to ask someone else

[fallow falcon]

Pretty sure you can still 2 shot crushers with high peril on damnation

[fierce sinew]

you can

quicken is a meme still, pick either of the other two 30 feats, rest is fine

[lethal quest]

do you have tips for pick n mix penance please ?

[pearl lion]

The fast BB ultimate is required, I think I used peril resist rather than peril ->power talent so I could shoot more BBs off and then found a big group of gunners/shotgunners

6 charges will help make sure you kill your target

Remember that so long as you dont start at 100 you can do another BB, so vent down to like 95 then do it again

Try to be in an elevated position

If you do it with a group, having vet help you is great

Cause they can use their ult to highlight specials

[lethal quest]

yeah i have the good perks but never the good situation 😦

[cyan notch]

commsplex mid event

[vagrant frigate]

i just upgraded a green to a blue and got a tier 4 blessing>?

[pearl lion]

It took me quite a while to get it

[cyan notch]

on hi int or damnation at least 5 shotgunners/gunners will spawn every wave

[vagrant frigate]

since WHEN can you get a tier 4 when upgrading ot blue

[cyan notch]

since 2 patches ago

[vagrant frigate]

im just gonna spam blue upgrades then

and not fully to gold

[lethal quest]

i need 5 differents guys no ?

[cyan notch]

t4s from blues are still not super common

mostly t3

[cyan notch]

nope

can be 5 same dudes

[weak sapphire]

Does the feat "chance to brainburst enemies" apply to the penance "brainburst specials"? Or should I go with 6 warp charges instead?

[lethal quest]

aahhh thank you

[vagrant frigate]

idk just use the fast brainburst lvl 30 talent

its not hard

[pearl lion]

Another thing is to save your ult for after your first bb

So bb kill, ult then do the others

[weak sapphire]

ty

[pearl lion]

I'd take the 6 charges

If youre in melee you're probably not going to get it

[ornate hamlet]

test the charges in the psykhanium

[weak sapphire]

True dat

[ornate hamlet]

if youre missing just a bit, up the charges to 6

[weak sapphire]

Ok thanks

[tough lion]

What's the best way to use a gun with the psyker?

[vestal raven]

shoot them

ez

[mellow dock]

I just played with the Deimos

OMG

it is so much better than the Obscurus

[quasi pier]

poke POKE

[timber bolt]

This any good?

[cyan notch]

yea pretty decent

[timber bolt]

What should I change?

Are the base stats ok?

[quasi pier]

Shred to slaughterer

[cyan notch]

finesse not maxed but its fine

[timber bolt]

Still looking for a slaughterer

[sonic coral]

impossible to swap both blessings to be tier 4, recycle it

[timber bolt]

Is it better to have finesse or first target be higher

[sonic coral]

right now, don't think throw it away

not max finesse or first target

[quasi pier]

Shred stacks will go away when you use the special

Finesse is a little more important, but yours is good and you got the best low score stat number

[smoky orbit]

just rolled flak....should keep it or try getting something else?

[quasi pier]

Depends on if you hate banana men or helmet guys more

[twilit veldt]

I AM GONNA LOSE MY FUCKING MIND

second time i get 378 base with two T2 blessings

[near wyvern]

Basic Hadron Emperor bull shit

They love us all

[quasi pier]

But whyd you give her more rerolling the perks

You were optimistic werent you

[twilit veldt]

because its still solid base despite the bless sucking dick

plus i only got one illisi so ill use it even if its kinda shit

plus i was hoping the second bless would be T3 or T4

[quasi pier]

I knew it

[timber bolt]

Lol

The new modifier is super rough

[quasi pier]

Its so good

[twilit veldt]

welp, time to see how illisi handles on damnation

[kind jay]

it handles it like big bubba handles his cellmates

raw and hard

[steel flame]

If you have teammates that don't like to stay together it's super easy to get bogged down in special soup

[kind jay]

we need a condition where if you leave coherency you just start taking chip damage

a permanent one

across the board

[proven cipher]

Which blessing should I rip off of this?

Blazing Spirit? Or smack a Bloodthirsty on it and test it out?

[hollow current]

dont brick me hadron

[quasi pier]

Do you want to meme with blazing spirit and wildfire, or pretend like manual quelling isnt fast enough now to make exorcist useless?

[proven cipher]

Oh right good point

Always go for the memes

[fierce sinew]

between 2 memes I'd take the t4 one

less likely to see it again

[hollow current]

eh.

[proven cipher]

Eh a useless T4 and a funny T3

Blazing Spirit is pretty hard to come upon though

[twilit veldt]

prefer deimos tbh

[fierce sinew]

mashing exorcist on heads is at least as useful as blazing spirit and probably more

[twilit veldt]

prefer deimos waaay more than this

[fierce sinew]

(neither is that useful)

[proven cipher]

So bloodthirsty and blazing spirit is not good ?

[quasi pier]

Yea I can't see a world where I chose to put exorcist onto a weapon that didn't already have it

[quasi pier]

It's kinda fun with wildfire, but good as in compared to power blessings, no not really

[proven cipher]

Ah what a let down

Guess Slaughterer and Bloodthirsty for FS then

[cyan notch]

bloodthirsty is pretty mid now

only 1 hit

[wooden flint]

how about with the new aoe sword? hits a wider range, could mean more soulblaze spread

[quasi pier]

Yea slaughterer and one of the other power blessings is better

[timber shale]

idk, (bloodthirsty/shred)+blazing spirit gives so many warp charges if you're running wildfire and AB

i think there's a niche for it

[quasi pier]

The damage on lower stack numbers means this just doesn't do much

[quasi pier]

The niche: waiting for a better fs

[steel flame]

Pls God no. That modifier in chaos wastes was just absolute worst

[quasi pier]

Warp charges are almost free

[wooden flint]

Wildfire only spreads 4 stacks, so I guess you'd cap out putting 6 (or 8 with t4) stacks on an enemy.. that being said 8's nothing to shy off that's still like or 4 seconds of the staff burn. Could be a good secondary with enemies that rush you or if you get caught out.

[proven cipher]

Just tested the AOE FS with blazing+bloodthirsty

It's meh

[quasi pier]

It spreads 4 stacks divided among 4 enemies

Which is the problem

[proven cipher]

Because the special only hit once instead of multiple hits on the same target

[timber shale]

that set up is for burning hordes though, not single target

[steel flame]

Wildfire really removes the need to run warp battery on purge. You can easily put perform a 6 stack fire ult with how fast fire spreads with just the staff, then ulting to put 4 more on top

[proven cipher]

I thought the single target FS special hit multiple times on the same target right?

[quasi pier]

Your melee will delete the horde before your fire can do much

[proven cipher]

Wildfire and 6 stacks are on the same column

So gotta pick between the two unfortunately

[wooden flint]

Oof. Thats lame. thought it put up to 4 onto a single enemy not spread it thin

[proven cipher]

If you're running purge then wildfire, anything else 6 stacks

[steel flame]

Quicken is really nice with 6 stacks or flayer, depending on how much you plan to bb

[vagrant frigate]

nah warp batter > wildfire even on purg

ive ran both extensively

wildfire is just fun

[wooden flint]

I've been running a melee build with communion, flayer, and quicken. Constantly have push up and pretty much always have max warp charge.

[still hearth]

Quicken comboing with Quietitude is nice. Just needs to be fixed so you get the full toughness value and not reduced for some reason

[wooden flint]

wdym full toughness value, push should recover a quarter of your bar with quietude

[near wyvern]

Yeah cause wildfire cannot target enemies with 5 and more stacks no matter the stacks on original target. It's just not listed in the description.

[vagrant frigate]

yeah, it wont refresh flame on anything with more than 4 stacks

so it really doesnt do a good job of keeping fire going

it keeps it running at like 2 dps but doesnt keep the stacks up

[proven cipher]

I noticed that with my spamming of Ulti, I seldom reach 6 charges

[vagrant frigate]

well if i run wildfire i spam ult

[proven cipher]

And if I do it won't last that long

[vagrant frigate]

24/7

[proven cipher]

Yep

[vagrant frigate]

if you run warp battery dont spam

[steel flame]

I think does though, it did when I was testing it a few days ago

[vagrant frigate]

i tested it 5min ago lol

it only refreshes the fire tick damage if it has <=4 stacks

[steel flame]

🤷

[proven cipher]

Love running Psykinetic Aura for lower 15% ulti cd on elite kills

[wooden flint]

Are yall using psykinetic's aura or psychic communion on AB with WB

because that massively changes the playstyle. you'll almost never get full warp charges with aura

[vagrant frigate]

311112 best in slot purg

[still hearth]

If you don't get full stacks with AB idk what you're doing

[proven cipher]

Cerebral Laceration is somewhat niche only useful for Monstrosities

[fierce sinew]

in hi 5 AB is all the charges you need, if you're having trouble maintaining them that's just self snitching your lack of uptime

[vagrant frigate]

what does ab stand for

[wooden flint]

ascendant blaze

[still hearth]

You'd need to be insanely unlucky to not be 6 stacks constantly

[wooden flint]

I agree, but if you push before you get 6 stacks (as can happen with psykinetic's aura pretty easily) you can brick yourself hard

[proven cipher]

Basically choose between 16% dmg or 24% dmg

I find it takes too long to get 6

[wooden flint]

WIth BB alone yeah

[proven cipher]

You gotta intentionally try not to Ulti to get 6

[wooden flint]

communion and AB should be doing all the work to get to 6

[vagrant frigate]

wildfire helps you get stacks too

[still hearth]

If I ult into a big group and I'm at 6 stacks unless there's big enemies I just BB to ensure I get some extra stacks since everything dies

[wooden flint]

start by using staff to burn, then use ult to clean up

[shut ether]

All my homies love quicken

[proven cipher]

Aura is way more useful than Communion to me

[timber shale]

WB+AB is kind of overrated tbh

[proven cipher]

Both for self and rest of the team

[vagrant frigate]

wildfire lets you flame lmb then get your 10% chance for ab to proc every time your team kills the flame chain

[wooden flint]

quicken is insane now that it's been buffed, almost feels on par with the other 2, but more utility than dps

[vagrant frigate]

psyker ult just doenst do much when spammed

[golden tartan]

I run quicken personally

[still hearth]

It's still slightly behind

But it's very fun

[golden tartan]

The x2 is so useful

[proven cipher]

It's all depending on what role you play in the team

[wooden flint]

Like i said, it's utility.

[vagrant frigate]

2x is the only reason to run quicken

[golden tartan]

Lets me get to 6 stax quick and maintain 6 stax

[proven cipher]

Dedicated BB build can work now

[wooden flint]

I regularly use it to get dogs off of people a mile away from me or behind a wall

[proven cipher]

With all the buffs

[vagrant frigate]

this

through walls

[wooden flint]

dedicated BB build could always work

[vestal raven]

What is the range on it?

[vagrant frigate]

up to 30 meters can save dumb teammates

[vestal raven]

oh nvm

[vagrant frigate]

30

[vestal raven]

thanks

[vagrant frigate]

you can see the range on the person who is hit by a dog

so you know when to cast

[vestal raven]

yeah

[wooden flint]

eh I've always eyeballed it, never fails me

[vestal raven]

saved alot of zealots that way

[wooden flint]

30m is a pretty long ass way

someone's gotta be fuckin off really hard to be more than 30m away from team, especially on T4+

[proven cipher]

Now if they change to BB that give you charges on hit instead of kills

[vagrant frigate]

camo vet teammates

[golden tartan]

Shredder vet moments

[vagrant frigate]

who are miles away

[quasi pier]

Every time I try to ult to push off dogs it fails

[vagrant frigate]

it works with AB every time

without its not 100%

[wooden flint]

Camo vets don't get targetted by dogs unless they're not using their feat

[vagrant frigate]

i mean cuz they get left behind

[golden tartan]

They do

[vestal raven]

camo vets are lame

[vagrant frigate]

they always in the back

[golden tartan]

Camo isnt invul

[vagrant frigate]

by the time they move

theyre alone lol

[clear heath]

they gotta walk eventually

[quasi pier]

Ah thanks for the tip

[still hearth]

Dogs are most likely to target lone allies

[golden tartan]

It just means if the enemy can see any other ally they will target them first.

[wooden flint]

I didn't say it's invul, but I've had plenty of dogs run past me with camo on vet. they'll turn around and get you when you move.

[proven cipher]

Wish they buff Psyker's 1st column skills

[golden tartan]

Specials that target individuals ignore camo.

[vagrant frigate]

nah toughness on quell is best in slot

its so underrated

[golden tartan]

Its amazing

[proven cipher]

Quietude is just too good

[golden tartan]

Holy fuck

[wooden flint]

WA needs a buff to be 15% to match the other 2

[still hearth]

Underrated

[proven cipher]

Yeah I meant the other 2

[still hearth]

It's crowned as BiS atm

[vagrant frigate]

yeah after months

people only just started running it

[clear heath]

people were running it before anyways

[wooden flint]

Essence harvest only works when you BB a LOT or dedicate tons of feat slots to warp charges

[vestal raven]

^

[still hearth]

I've always ran it and I definitely felt it was BiS

But now it's just pure gold

[golden tartan]

Quietude is free toughness

[clear heath]

it's just even better now cause quell speed buff

[vestal raven]

yeah since they buffed the passive quell

nutty

[vagrant frigate]

same but i've always seen people use the top one

[proven cipher]

And 10% on warp kill is such a small amount

[vestal raven]

or just overall

[wooden flint]

I started running quietude again because I find warp charges are too inconsistent with my build. I have good uptime but i'm not refreshing EH often enough to justify it. I also max out peril a ton so quelling happens often.

[proven cipher]

If it's like 30% and 20% over time

[vagrant frigate]

you get essentially 1% warp kill quell with quietude because 1/10 of your kills will quell 10% peril lol

[still hearth]

It would be something on the Illisi but alas, it's bugged

[golden tartan]

Quietude also turns ur F into emergency tou regen

[proven cipher]

Yep

[cyan notch]

tou

[quasi pier]

I mean it can be a lot, but when you're getting that many kills with staff it's not really needed and doesn't work with illisi

[still hearth]

Et tou

[wooden flint]

1/4 of toughness bar for the cheap cost of a 10 second cooldown, oh and you get a free stagger

[still hearth]

More likr 7.5s

[wooden flint]

(with quicken)

yeah

fr

[still hearth]

You can constantly BB with Quicken now

[wooden flint]

QQ combo big brain

[proven cipher]

Now I kinda wish they add an over shield mechanic

[vagrant frigate]

if youre killining enough to get 10% tougness on kill then you are getting so much quell from the chance to quell on kill its just better (quietude is better im saying)

[proven cipher]

Like they did with vermintide

[golden tartan]

Looks at zealot

Would be kinda OP tbh

[wooden flint]

It would be an ogryn thing if they did

[still hearth]

Zealot needs buffs anyway

So let's go

[golden tartan]

The current toughness mechanic is very forgiving.

[vestal raven]

^

[proven cipher]

Yeah zealot got no love last patch

[wooden flint]

yeah it is. until 2 shooty bois are in sync and snipe me from 3 miles away behind cover.

[vagrant frigate]

yeah especially with +90% toughness regen curios

[golden tartan]

No amount of toughness saves u from snipers

They do 10x damage to toughness

[vestal raven]

Speaking of which i've always noticed that ducking behind cover sometimes just doesnt do anything lmfao

[proven cipher]

Thoughness regen on ogre is hilarious

[wooden flint]

I meant shooters lmfao

not snipers

[proven cipher]

Especially with 4 coherency

[still hearth]

Not on Psykers but Veterans

[vagrant frigate]

4 ogryn all running 100% coherency bonus and 90% from curios

is fun

[wooden flint]

Ogryn doesn't die. If you do, you're playing it wrong.

[vagrant frigate]

how i feel about psyker

[wooden flint]

If you die, you can't protect the little uns