psyker-class

[twilit veldt]

btw i know flamer burns the fuck out of minibosses, but does purge staff also burn the fuck out of minibosses? or is it much much weaker?

[shadow wigeon]

Heresy players are much worse than damnation.

I occassionally go down to heresy for weeklies, and it's pretty bad

[faint sigil]

IN GENERAL

big *

theres always people who arent great

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, on average

Heresy games are rough though compared to damn. Way less yolo solo on damn than QP heresy

[quasi pier]

It does alright. If your staff is good should be better than vanilla bb

[twilit veldt]

good to know

every time pogryn or beast of nurgle spawn idk if i should burn it or BB it

[shadow wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[twilit veldt]

not enough hands

[shadow wigeon]

Blaze ticks for awhile

[quasi pier]

I use kinetic barrage, so I usually alternate between the two. Switch to staff after using up ult

[shadow wigeon]

You can just LMB a few times to keep it up, too

[faint sigil]

thanks emperor, shame about the cloud radius tho

[shadow wigeon]

If you want to go mad anyway

[shadow wigeon]

I mean w/e, that's a beast still. You lose a meter or two

flurry 4 is very fun

[faint sigil]

i dont purge staff (until now i guess) reroll maniac damage?

[shadow wigeon]

almost too fast

[shadow wigeon]

pox/groan is irrelevant so lose that

[faint sigil]

🧑🏻‍🏭

[shadow wigeon]

You won't get much out of maniac, it's true, but it'll still be helping.

[twilit veldt]

YES YES YES... NO NO NO NO

it rolled a fuckin T2

[tender bison]

dicksword

[shadow wigeon]

Sorry, sibling

[twilit veldt]

look at the fuckin stats tho, i weep

everything above 70

and i lottery ticket it to two T2 blessings

[feral verge]

that warp resist th o

i highly reccomend low warp resist

for use with warp unleashed

[twilit veldt]

i use inner tranquility

[shadow wigeon]

I know it hurts, but unless your first perk was perfect, I would have bailed at that first blessing

[twilit veldt]

instead of damage

[feral verge]

what staff

[twilit veldt]

purge

[feral verge]

madlad

[shadow wigeon]

Try Unleased with Purg sometime, it's pretty viable

[still hearth]

Essence Harvest

Mind in Motion

Quicken

[feral verge]

i would only consider inner tranq on trauma

[still hearth]

On Purge

[shadow wigeon]

hmmmm

[feral verge]

madlad

[still hearth]

[shadow wigeon]

Troubling, sibling

I still like Harvest on Purg

[clear heath]

quicken

[twilit veldt]

with purge you get 6 warp charges instantly, so if i get to 100% charge, i can just ult and with quicken i got the ult up in like next 5 seconds

[feral verge]

if you're open to it @twilit veldt , try this

[twilit veldt]

constant flames

[still hearth]

You can also press R

For like .5 seconds

[twilit veldt]

plus with tranquil i can keep flames up for a long ass time without getting to 100

[still hearth]

Quelling is so fast atm

[shadow wigeon]

Mind in motion is kind of obsolete since quell was buffed

[clear heath]

yeah it's pretty hard to give up quietude now

[feral verge]

when uing a purga into a horde, battle meditation kicks in so often that its hard to get peril to 100%

[shadow wigeon]

What difficulty do you play? Purg staff does get better at higher difficulties with more enemies.

[twilit veldt]

heresy

tho probably gonna switch to damnation

[feral verge]

i play high int damn, and what i just posted is what i use

[twilit veldt]

pubs are making my fucking head hurt

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, I would recommend those other builds, then.

[feral verge]

i think running your current build into damn would be shooting yourself in the foot

[still hearth]

You really shouldn't have to flame more than 2 charges in most situations before you can safely quell and the DoT will kill everything

[shadow wigeon]

a bit, yes

[twilit veldt]

ill give it a try, thankfully multiple loadouts exist

[feral verge]

nw homie

[steel flame]

Hi int shocktrooper. DO IT

[vagrant frigate]

wildfire is just too fun

[shadow wigeon]

It's fun but I don't find it useful, compared to 6 stacks

[feral verge]

i prefer warp battery with purga

[still hearth]

I'm just sad WIldfire is worse on Purg than not running purg

[twilit veldt]

btw why did you take kinetic deflection

[still hearth]

Because Mind in Motion is useless

[shadow wigeon]

It's one of the best psyker feats

[vagrant frigate]

to kill daemon's

[feral verge]

warp battery + AB lets you actually compete with flamer zealots, dmg-wise, over the course of the game

[vagrant frigate]

help peopel w the achievement

[still hearth]

With a staff you aren't even really slowed down

[feral verge]

kinetic deflection is really, really good. that is the 'clutch feat'. you can easily res ppl in the middle of hordes

[twilit veldt]

yea thats fair but how does it compare to kinetic shield, the ranged fire

[vagrant frigate]

it means i dont have to run deflector too

[still hearth]

For some reason the quell speed with or without MiM is almost the same on staves.

[twilit veldt]

i see

ill pop it on

[vagrant frigate]

kinetic deflec 100x better

free rez

[still hearth]

You'll mostly have around 25-30% DR

[shadow wigeon]

Kinetic Deflection is significantly better than both

[still hearth]

Which isn't massive.

[clear heath]

mind in motion on staves is like, maybe 10% faster walking

[vagrant frigate]

i also just like killing daemons

helps with that

[elfin crystal]

hey anyone knows what the surge talent does on trauma?

[vagrant frigate]

only works on left click

[feral verge]

MIM is a quality of life perk. it's neat, but it doesnt make a meaningful difference, unlike kinetic deflection

[elfin crystal]

oh wack

thanks

[vagrant frigate]

it doesnt do anything on right click

[steel flame]

Shoot lmb 2 times on crit

[elfin crystal]

😔

[feral verge]

in damnation, you dont want QOL Perks. you want perks that will make a decisive difference

[vagrant frigate]

i run 90% tougness regen speed anyways

and then quell = toughness

[elfin crystal]

i guess it could be funny for a lmb build, but i doubt that would work lmao

[clear heath]

Kinetic shield isn't bad either
some people just don't block enough to justify kd

[feral verge]

i dont block that much, but sitll run KD

for reses

i have saved many-a-game with KD

[clear heath]

i do it for safe peril generation

[vagrant frigate]

KD makes you invincible tbh

[elfin crystal]

yeah KD very good

[vagrant frigate]

that + infinite dodges on force sword

[steel flame]

You can do animation cancel and weaponize lmb for long range, rmb medium short. Surge, nexus. I have friends that have a build like that, it holds it own

[vagrant frigate]

unkillable

[twilit veldt]

ok, btw would this work? im just making loadouts rn to check shit out

[feral verge]

for purga?

[vagrant frigate]

take the top perk in slot 2

it makes u hit every breakpoint you could ever want

[elfin crystal]

oh lmao. ok might try then

[still hearth]

Better to run Barrage if you want to run Wrack and Ruin

[feral verge]

wrack and ruin is very meh. especially if you have vets on the team, which can make the perk even more meh

because they kill elites before you can get it off

[shadow wigeon]

Wrack needs 1 or 2 more stacks added, at least, to matter..

[steel flame]

Take 111122 for high intensity. 111112 for regular gameplay

[vagrant frigate]

that 10-25% damage buff is so nice

[steel flame]

Wrack works better on gun builds

[vagrant frigate]

2shot bulwark no brainburst

is so nice

[feral verge]

you really cant say no to it

[vagrant frigate]

no warp charges*

[feral verge]

too good

[vagrant frigate]

also helps you hit your 1shot on mutant breakpoint

w fs

[steel flame]

You can ramp wrack and ruin fire with shredder blessings, and you can get 12-18 SB going with KB

[vagrant frigate]

with the new high damage FS you can literally heavy attack a mutant and 1shot it

no charge

just normal attack

[twilit veldt]

fair enough, the main thing is that i previously ran psychic communion due to inner tranquility, but since now all the charges do is just increase damage, i thought i could switch to lacerations for shit like crushers, bulwarks and shit that doesnt die in single cast of BB

[steel flame]

Well heavy 2 can do that. You need to light 1 or push to chain into heavy 2 for the oneshot

[vagrant frigate]

laceration is okay but if you take top perk in slot 2 you will hit the most important breakpoints anyways

[vagrant frigate]

yeah light 1 heavy 2 kills

[feral verge]

cerebral lacerations only truly good against bosses most of the time

[vagrant frigate]

i have a 80% damage 80% first target roll with 25% maniacs and heavy 2 kills

[twilit veldt]

fair

[vagrant frigate]

either way youre doing 3800/4000 if its hp

itll die to chip

[twilit veldt]

whats in your opinion better in slot 5 btw, i run Warp Battery pretty much always, but i like the look of wildfire if im using 2 in slot 6

[vagrant frigate]

warp battery is way better

wildfire is funny

its just a fun perk to run

warp battery better in every situation though

[twilit veldt]

8% extra damage vs. funny

hmmm

[shadow wigeon]

6 stacks ascendant blaze

[fringe garden]

wildfire does almost no damage any time ive tested it in the room

[feral verge]

yeah. this 1 shots hordes

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-fire-destroy-dead-gif-25263759

[feral verge]

with ab

[shadow wigeon]

Also, FWIW... Unleashed + 6 stacks = 2 BB Crushers

[steel flame]

Cerebral laceration is best on gun builds. Melts through everything like ogryns, ragers, bosses.

[feral verge]

yeah, i'd run it on a gunker

[vagrant frigate]

run n gun purg + wildfire spamming your ult is fun though

juts sprinting into a shooter horde stunning them all

then fs the backline

tbh

[faint sigil]

quicken or AB, purge staff

[shadow wigeon]

AB

[feral verge]

ab

every time

[faint sigil]

aighty

[feral verge]

i'd pick quietitude too, if i were you

[faint sigil]

also should be quiet

ya

[feral verge]

my purga build

[shadow wigeon]

Harvest or Quiet

Harvest is still strong on purg, if it's your fancy

[faint sigil]

[shadow wigeon]

Quiet is more tactical

And has benefits in melee, as well.

[gilded viper]

i want that

speical = change between the 20 scope

[weak sapphire]

Any advice on how to do going out with a bang? Just jump into the fray and poof?

[rare furnace]

Are you guys crushing more now?

Crash*

I think almost every game while it was every 4 games last month

[still hearth]

Some

I've gotten random disconnects

Not crashes

[spice veldt]

i got disconnected 4 times on one particular night across different games, and I crash when the game goes on for too long, but it's been fine for me for the most part

[still hearth]

I've only crashed because of mods

But I run the game at min settings

Literally everything turned down

Thanks Emperor

Literally my two favorite blessings

And not even 76% burn

[rare furnace]

I had to restart pc after every crash last update rn I can just rejoin that’s good Atleast

[still hearth]

[past parrot]

Run and Gun is good and I’m tired of everyone pretending it isn’t!!

[rare furnace]

So maybe we getting more crash fixes in 2-3 days or it’s too early

[rare furnace]

? You can’t soot on secondary and run though

[shadow wigeon]

Zip zap poof poof that LMB

[still hearth]

Run 'n' Gun is certainly a blessing

The thing with Run 'n' Gun is

You can't even slide with it

[rare furnace]

EXACTLY

[still hearth]

If you try to slide you'll get a slowdown when you stand up and resume sprinting

Which is so nice

I love it

You also can't do the quell reset thing to rapid fire and sprint

So what's the point

[shadow wigeon]

Cara for unarmored? Maniac?

[still hearth]

Good question

[spice veldt]

oh they made brutal momentum refresh if you get a weakspot kill while it's up

[shadow wigeon]

I feel like heavy into infested is already 1 shot.

[still hearth]

Not quite iirc

Let me do the math

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I guess ive been seeing WS 1 shot, but i didnt pay attention to body shots

[late yew]

Does trauma staff have limit on amount of targets?

[still hearth]

No

With special active on Illisi and fully stacked Slaughterer + Unstable

You do enough damage to one-shot bodyshot infested

With WU and 6 stacks

[late yew]

how active on illisi affects it?

[still hearth]

Actually maybe not

Math

[spice veldt]

the special bumps the cleave on your lights and heavies to 10.5

[still hearth]

Ah yeah you don't do enough to one-shot bodyshot

[shadow wigeon]

6 stacks, no WU, 5 slaughter = 1 shot

no charge

[still hearth]

Not to all enemies in the cleave

[rare furnace]

Would Unstoppable power be better than level 3 crit ? My sword has all damage stats max and low warp read so I geuss it would go power up real fast

[still hearth]

Which is the important stat

[shadow wigeon]

no just the first, sadly

True

Hmm

[still hearth]

You'll one-shot 7 enemies with max stacked on those blessings.

Then the rest takes about 200 damage

Which means you two-shot them

So

You can get a 1-shot on all cleave hits for weakspots/crits

With maxed everything

Oh and if you have an Ogryn on your team it should bump you up to 1shot

Slaughterer T4 just barely doesn't break the cap to 1-shot body shot

So you'd need Unstable T4 as well

And this assumes 80 in damage too

[rare furnace]

I have Level 3 crit and slaughter 2 blessings what should I change

[still hearth]

So yeah Infested is a waste

Holy fuck

The holy sword

[spice veldt]

you guvker

[still hearth]

Of course on the best sword

You get shitty blessings

[spice veldt]

who did you murder to get this force sword

[rare furnace]

Yepp

[still hearth]

Shred T3 and Slaughterer T2

Ugh

I think Slaughterer T4

[rare furnace]

I can change one

[still hearth]

But idk

[shadow wigeon]

Shred T3 I think is not bad actually

[rare furnace]

Yeah slaughter really made it pump up

[summer prairie]

Shred is ok

[shadow wigeon]

With the angle of the cleaves

[rare furnace]

Like I slay 3 always

[shadow wigeon]

You're goingt o miss WS

[rare furnace]

Onl. Diff 3 I slay 4-5 at once haha

[spice oar]

holy shit the emp blessed this sword

[still hearth]

H1 is a clean horizontal

Which is what you want to spam

Oh yeah we're talking about Damnation usually

Malice is easy mode

[rare furnace]

Yeah damnation it cleaves 3

Most times

I mean to kill

[still hearth]

Illisi is just hilarious.

[rare furnace]

Yepp

[still hearth]

Getting to two-shot 21 poxwalkers

Its a bit overkill tbf since the reach isn't super long

[spice veldt]

though it has a true horizontal as its 1st heavy

[still hearth]

But reliably one-shotting 7 poxwalkers is also dumb

[rare furnace]

Illisi a is warcrafted for the best

[spice veldt]

which means that your attack is going to sweep from the right to the entire left of your screen

very cool

[still hearth]

Also if you're one-shotting 21 poxwalkers

It's statistically crazy to not get Battle Meditation

Meaning you should 99% be able to just

Keep mowing

[rare furnace]

Only the crit stops when you spam special h

It’s not super sync with slaughter

But makes many hits be crit and fun when heavy is not needed

[still hearth]

It's kind of like

Slaughterer T2 + Unstable

Is also about the same value

And its easier to keep Unstable stacks up for single targets

But then you also have to be at 80% peril+

So you get the same value but on one of them you can get Shred

On normal hits

Unstable T4 is 20% at max stacks right?

[olive ember]

Yes

[still hearth]

And I think Slaughterer is 7.5-15 from T1 to T4?

[rare furnace]

My first special jumps up to 23 peril I always do about 2-3 specials and it’s done

[still hearth]

Either way

OP weapon

Needs buffs

[rare furnace]

Too fast for the server

Yes buff the op

[still hearth]

They buffed Flamer

So anything is possible

[rare furnace]

So we can become lich king

Yess

Did they buff the soulblaze on crit

[spice veldt]

the probability of battle meditation triggering at least one time with 20 kills is 60%

just from using a binomial cdf calculator

[olive ember]

The what now

Is this some normal distribution bs

[spice veldt]

binomial distribution

been a hot while since i've taken a stat class though

[olive ember]

Eh basically the same thing

[spice veldt]

that's true; they are basically the same thing under certain conditions

[still hearth]

Hmm.

[past parrot]

I am a Statistician and dead ass can’t be bothered to apply stats to games lol

[feral verge]

"damn we suck" - shieldgryn

[spice veldt]

smh

[still hearth]

Online probablity says 87.84% chance of it occuring

But I don't know anything about math

[olive ember]

Yooo wanna help with with

looks at notes

Econometrics

[spice veldt]

i might be wrong since my intuition says that battle meditation should have a higher prob of occurring than 60%

[void mural]

Does exorcist work on deimos warp charged attacks? Or does your "chained attacks" end when you do the warp charge?

[lethal folio]

N-[chance]^occurucences

[still hearth]

You have to do repeated hits

And special ends combo

So it doesn't proc on the first swing after special

[shadow wigeon]

Anything that is not an immediate attack after attack is not chained

[spice veldt]

oh oops I think I was using P(X > 1) instead of P(X >= 1)

[void mural]

So, you could do warp charge > heavy attack, light attack, and the light attack would be considered a chained attack?

[still hearth]

Should be, yes.

It's enough to let you repeat the combo but its also not much faster than passive quell.

[flat shadow]

what are knives good for

[still hearth]

Speed

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-fast-sonic-the-hedgehog-fast-speed-motion-blur-gif-18342829

And single target DPS

[void mural]

Do we know if exorcist is per weak point hit, or per strike that hits a weak point?

[spice veldt]

as long as you don't wait too long such that your combo resets, block, or miss your attack, then your attacks will be considered chained

last time I tested before the patch, it was per strike

[past parrot]

1 - P(No Occurrences)?

[still hearth]

If you kill 21 targets the probability calculator says the chance is 89%

[void mural]

Damn, I was thinking about wanting an exorcist + bloodthirsty illi

[still hearth]

Bloodthirsty is pretty trash now

I mean it was always trash imo

[void mural]

Yeah, I know it's only for 1 hit

[still hearth]

But now its worse

Hey man, the average damage increase of crits

Is just shit

[void mural]

But warp charge > heavy attack > light attack, repeat

[still hearth]

[spice veldt]

force sword has a 2.3x multiplier on crits

[still hearth]

I don't make the rules

Yeah but not on special swings

[spice veldt]

das true

[void mural]

Wait... is it one of the only good crit weapons?

[spice veldt]

my memories of the prepatch OFS with prepatch bloodthirsty

force sword normals are one of the better crit weapons, though the weakspot and crit multipliers are apparently lowered for their special attacks

[still hearth]

You can get a reliable one-shot damage going with Bloodthirsty

[void mural]

So, doing this might actually be good with a bloodthirsty + exorcist illi FS?

[still hearth]

But you need to repeatedly special anyway so

[spice veldt]

slaughterer is far better than bloodthirsty

[still hearth]

Why not take the +75% power

[void mural]

Yeah, exorcist to quell peril on the might attack

[still hearth]

And +20 power

[still hearth]

Which also adds to weakspot damage

[void mural]

I mean, duh, but that's assuming I can have slaughterer

[still hearth]

Which is also a 2.3x multiplier

[spice veldt]

skill issue clearly

[feral verge]

i need unstable power iv bad

[spice veldt]

have better luck

[void mural]

I only have t1 slaughterer

[still hearth]

I mean I assume you farm to get what you want

But if you can't get it then sure, Bloodthirsty isn't useless

Just kinda awkward

[feral verge]

nice

i bet that fucks

[still hearth]

Y'all play this game too much

[spice veldt]

very

no i dont

[past parrot]

My sword is stuck with Blood Thirsty IV and it’s kinda useful on some elites

[spice veldt]

my 800 hours is not enough

[still hearth]

I've only played like 500

[mint stump]

does that mean Unstable Power gives a maximum of 5% power?

[void mural]

Yeah, but I'm doing charge > heavy > light anyway, and that's seem to synergize with exorcist and bloodthirsty. Powerful warp attack, then guaranteed crit that also quells some peril

[still hearth]

Because I took a break while they had nothing fun

[still hearth]

Stacks up to 4 times 5%

[spice veldt]

classic example of a Fatshark description

[feral verge]

mine. im actually happy about having exorcist

just need unstable pwoer iv and this buid ls p much perfect

[spice veldt]

you get a stack at 20%/40%/60%/80% peril

[still hearth]

Unstable + Exorcist

That seems spicy

[feral verge]

yeah i fuck with it, no sarcasm

[still hearth]

If they made it work on the first swing

I'd legit run it

[feral verge]

yeah, if only

[still hearth]

It'd be pretty nasty

[past parrot]

Don’t those two blessing hurt each other?

[void mural]

Omfg... for real? Fuck FS and their lying tool tips. That doesn't have the stacking text that others do, so it sounds like it only gives 5% power

[shadow wigeon]

Why not slaughtere tho

[feral verge]

not on illisi, imo

because of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UyAv2rMiM

[still hearth]

A lot of things also don't even mention they stack but they do.

[olive ember]

Eh exorcist I find kinda mid imo

[void mural]

FFS

[feral verge]

because you can charge infinitely

[spice veldt]

exorcist doesn't quell enough to get you down to 0% peril

[olive ember]

You drain so quickly that

[spice veldt]

but it's good enough to put you below 100%

[still hearth]

Zealot has a feat which stacks 3x

And its not mentioned at all

[feral verge]

and i use it to generate toughness even faster

[still hearth]

[olive ember]

Oh specifically to special spam

[feral verge]

from quietitude

[shadow wigeon]

But that's 20% power and a hassle vs 75% power for free

[olive ember]

Basically idk

[still hearth]

Yeah running Slaughterer is always just the best choice

[olive ember]

Exorcist + unstable is like… you could just run slaughterer

[past parrot]

How I forgot the quell is toughness

[lime robin]

even with deimos?

[feral verge]

that's great for hordeclear. but im using purga for that. i roll with unstable pwoer for 'first strike' dmg on elites/stragglers

[past parrot]

There’s too much going on with Psykers for my Zealot brain to keep up with

[shadow wigeon]

Fair enough

[void mural]

So, if I heavy > light attack with illi, it should proc exorcist's -peril once, if I hit at least 1 weakpont, right?

[feral verge]

afaik yeah

[west galleon]

The new swords are so much fun i cant believe im this easily pleased

[feral verge]

yeah im having alot of fun

i just feel like a powerhouse

[shadow wigeon]

For Illisi tho I don't think the math is in you favour really

[void mural]

Yeah, well definitely want to try an exorcist bloodthirsty illi now... if only I had the blessings

[west galleon]

Yeah all of a sudden i dont feel like im a troll pulling out my sword during a horde

[feral verge]

ik deimos is better for single target. but i use illisi for stragglers/peril generation for damage AND quietitude toughness regen

its working very well for me

i ahve become alot more tankier

[still hearth]

Can't you jerk off Deimos too?

[feral verge]

plus it lets me keep DPS up when peril reaches 100%. i swap to the sword, exorcise some bitches then continue purging

[feral verge]

no

[still hearth]

Ha!

Rekt penis sword

[feral verge]

or i would consider using it over illisi

[still hearth]

Illisi supremacy

Watch them remove it

[clear heath]

they should just add it to the other swords

it's just annoying for no reason otherwise

[west galleon]

The swipe is just safer than the stab (for me)

[feral verge]

when toughness is low, rather than directly quelling i can whip out the sword and start swinging on bitches to get a shitload of toughness back, from exorcist + toughness on kill + battle meditation

[past parrot]

My theory is that Fat Shark decided they were done with bullying the Psykers and have set their sights on bullying Zealots next. Next patch will have Flamer nerfs. 😔

[feral verge]

i like the aggressive playstyle change

kinda look bloodborne

[still hearth]

We've started crying to Catfish

So hopefully they'll realize that Zealot is being gimped

And buff it

[olive ember]

I mean some people want it nerfed already

[still hearth]

Flamer deserves a nerf

So does Psword

Illisi

Heavy Sword

Bull Butcher

And a lot of weapons need buffs.

[olive ember]

If they nerf all of em at the same time then wte

[feral verge]

best zealot i've ever seen

random pub

[olive ember]

Until then no nerfs

Madge

[feral verge]

used flamer

[still hearth]

Good Flamer usage easily carries runs

[past parrot]

I’ve already started diversifying my assets for the impending Flamer nerf

[olive ember]

What’s with the barf frames these days

Everyone’s runnin em

[still hearth]

Bad Flamer usage makes runs easier but theyh use so much ammo

[west galleon]

How long until they add most of the QoL mods to the base game?

[still hearth]

Probably by December

[olive ember]

I just stopped playing my zealot

[west galleon]

Aah my patience

[still hearth]

Just use mods

[mint stump]

modding is super easy

barely an inconvenience

[past parrot]

I’m pretty sure game devs browse the most popular mods pages to decide what features to implement

[olive ember]

Too lazy meh

[west galleon]

Im crying over a leaf in my soup

[still hearth]

I mean the modders use the same code as they do

So it should be very easy to do so

Which is a good thing tbf

[west galleon]

I think thats a fair assumption

[spice oar]

man still no deflector, wanna make my tank build smh

[twilit veldt]

eyy, first damnation mission done

[spice veldt]

a fatshark dev is also in the modding server

[twilit veldt]

and it was hi int

also yes, the players suck way less ass in pubs

mostly

[shadow wigeon]

hi int in particular is a different set of players as well quite often

[clear heath]

They've actually said it on the modding discord too

[past parrot]

Low Intensity becomes harder due to the players that pick it

[west galleon]

Damnation players are in my experience way more chill than your usual malice runner

[twilit veldt]

first two attempts via quickplay ended very quickly because it joined me into games where everyone was dead, but the first one from lobby went very well

[west galleon]

Atleast i get flamed way less for not doing my best in those runs

[spice veldt]

people talk a lot more in malice than damnation

[shadow wigeon]

*type

[spice veldt]

typealk

[lime robin]

Is shred better than slaugtherer for deimos?

[past parrot]

Running Malice this weekend to level my Psyker a bit was the most toxic Dark Tide experience I’ve had in a long time

[twilit veldt]

t(ype)alk

[west galleon]

I even had people offering to help with the damn monstrosity penance once

[feral verge]

i dont have the barf frame yet

[clear heath]

No one in damnation wants to talk shit because we all fuck up
I'm not about to trash talk someone and then immediately get jumped by a dog and die

[past parrot]

Switched to Hersey and the players were instantly more chill and competent

[twilit veldt]

malice i tend to be able to carry, but the bigger issue is heresy, you either get a good team that stays together, or one that will make you mald

[shadow wigeon]

Coming from damnation I find Heresy games can be a bit of a gong show. Lots of babysitting.

[past parrot]

Damnation is definitely the same relation as switching from Malice to Hersey

[feral verge]

i've halted on playing my second psyker, cuz malice is so bad

he's at level 9

whereas on my main gal, Mai, i only play damnation

malice feels harder than damn

lmfao

cuz the players are so bad

[twilit veldt]

play on sedition

[west galleon]

My impression is that malice is damnation for a part of the playerbase

[mint stump]

wait, you have 2 psykers?

[spice veldt]

malice feels super easy since enemies die quickly
force sword lights can one-shot dreg shooters and poxwalkers

[feral verge]

yeah

[spice veldt]

just fuckin run into shooters and you don't even lose all of your toughness

[mint stump]

why?

[feral verge]

for melk's store

melk's store is character tied

[mint stump]

but items aren't transferrable between characters

[feral verge]

blessings are

its fro blessings

[mint stump]

ohhhh

[olive ember]

Man I played damnation the other day

[lilac tapir]

who knew that alts would be a thing in Darktide... 😄

[olive ember]

I’m washed up

[west galleon]

They are???

[twilit veldt]

blessed be melk, the bringer of guns (weekly)

[mint stump]

I thought they added that, but I wasn't sure

[past parrot]

The issue is that Malice is harder because of bad teammates so Malice players consistently fail missions and never try anything harder because of it

[shadow wigeon]

What is the argument for Deimos > Obscurus ?

[olive ember]

My fault for only playing malice but still

[west galleon]

Dang the more you know

[past parrot]

Poke do big damage

[feral verge]

if you think im crazy for having 2 psykers

check out this vet

[mint stump]

wow

[west galleon]

Average guardsman player

[past parrot]

Do you grind weapons on all 5 Vets..?

[feral verge]

not me

me

[twilit veldt]

at the very least, leveling psyker is pretty neat, BB will carry against annoying shit and hes pretty neat to play. Lvling Ogryn made me uninstall the game, and then when i reinstall i really had to push myself to get him to 30

[olive ember]

For checking Melk shop

Wrong guy

[twilit veldt]

ogryn makes me dead inside

[feral verge]

nah levelling psyker is the worst

[olive ember]

The alts is so you can get more roles for melks daily shitpicks

[past parrot]

You did the Psyker penances on two characters you’re even crazier than 5 vets guy

[olive ember]

Ogryn is pbad leveling experience tbh

[feral verge]

no

penances are account wide

[olive ember]

P sure it’s class bound

[past parrot]

Oh

[olive ember]

Yeah

[past parrot]

Thank goodness lol

[shadow wigeon]

Ogryn was a minor hassle to level but is cartoon strong at 30.

[west galleon]

I mean now that i know that blessings are shared i'd let that reason pass

[twilit veldt]

yes but getting to 30 was horrible

[past parrot]

Ogryn gameplay is 100% better if you role play in chat

[twilit veldt]

true

big man save little man

[past parrot]

you can trash talk your team if you do it in character

[shadow wigeon]

*lil un

[west galleon]

I love that most ogryn players apparently have this unspoken agreement

[past parrot]

and you can bitch at them to stay together as long as you call them small and weak

If I did that on my Zealot I’m an asshole, but if I do it in character as an Ogryn I’m a wholesome protector

[feral verge]

when im playing ogryn, and osmeone talks too much i just say

"no more word. many word make gromm MAD"

[past parrot]

I like refusing to take Grims or destroying them as an Ogryn by arguing that I can’t read

[olive ember]

I don’t rp I’m just silent

Unless I notice the team is noticeably shit

[mint stump]

I like the in-game interactions with ogryns tho

[olive ember]

Then it’s something along the lines of

“Hey what are you guys doing? Out of curiosity?”

[spice veldt]

i just call my teammates fuckers if they blow up poxbursters near me

[feral verge]

reposting this. i i hate the projection

shieldgryn saying that 'we' suck

a shieldgryn'

[twilit veldt]

the biggest issue for me with ogryn is that (previously, now im really liking the new slower higher damage twin link) i pretty much only used ripper mk2 and shield because all his other options (apart from vanilla twinlink and kickback) felt dogshit to use

and his melee was giving me terminal cringe apart from shield

with psyker i atleast got really good melee and ranged

ogryn weapons were very lackluster for me (moveset wise)

[robust relic]

cleaver ogryn has always been good

[twilit veldt]

plus i used to use kickback as my main melee just because the alt fire counts as heavy

[feral verge]

i just hate how slow ogryn feels. the reload speed. the move speed. ik his speed is the same as the others, but his height makes him feel alot slower

whereas my psyker is smaller, but becasue the camera is lower to the ground, she FEELS faster

but ofc obvi ik she's not

[olive ember]

My response is typically “bruh”, “really” or “stop shooting ffs holy shit how tf are you this bad”

See

Very proportionate

[spice veldt]

it's a coin flip between insulting them or angrily telling them that shooting bursters will give them stagger resistance

[olive ember]

I mean some players don’t even know you can shove em

I legit was playing on I think heresy? And a guy was like “how did you not take damage from that burster?”

And I’m like “… you can shove them away at last second if you time it properly”

[twilit veldt]

i just dodge and hope for the best

it works 60% of the time, all the time

[olive ember]

Dodging a burster? That like never works

It’s better shove em I have like a 90% success rate I’d say

[twilit veldt]

well not when they are running at you

but when they are running at a friendly teammate

[spice veldt]

outrunning doesn't work but dodging from them works even with the obscurus

[twilit veldt]

imma bounce the fuck outta there

that is no longer an us issue but a you issue

[olive ember]

Oh yeah

[feral verge]

i charge up my illisi with unstable power, then push the burster

[olive ember]

I don’t dodge I just walk away and pretend it ain’t my business

[feral verge]

because the increased power boosts the push

[vestal raven]

what should i do with this damn sword

[feral verge]

that's a damn fine sword

you could get rid of blazing spirit for slaughterer

[spice veldt]

keep it for a wildfire build i suppose

[twilit veldt]

eat it

[river sand]

get the spirit for your collection and hope for a better one

[spice veldt]

unless that's your only good illisi

[vestal raven]

erererrererer

lol thanks for the suggestions

[river sand]

noooo

[spice veldt]

oh wait

not slaughterer

bloodthirsty

[river sand]

bloodthirsty doesnt work anymore

[spice veldt]

it still works on the next attack

so if you special spam

[river sand]

yeah one attack

thats kinda useless

[spice veldt]

with a wildfire build the clear speed is not too bad

comparable to slaughterer but you do suffer at single-target damage

[river sand]

if you wanna keep it (its quite good) replace spirit with slaugtherer

[vestal raven]

alright

[spice veldt]

damn editing in repeating characters in an already posted message still causes it to be deleted

[twilit veldt]

"low intensity shock troop gauntlet" ...so, regular game?

one decreases spawns, the other one doubles em

lul

[river sand]

its quite fun. less normal enemies tons of specials

[past parrot]

I just want a mode that is literal never ending hordes

[vestal raven]

^

[spice oar]

so the back to ubersreik v2 level

[past parrot]

Just regular mission with never ending chaff to cut through

[spice oar]

on the illis force sword is slaughterer or uncanny strike better?

[spice veldt]

slaughterer

[olive ember]

I forget did the VT level come out

[spice veldt]

by a far wide margin

[past parrot]

Slaughterer is broken good right now and is basically always the best option

[olive ember]

Should I redownload VT

[spice veldt]

the force sword does not benefit from uncanny strike very much because its normal attacks already deal 100% damage against most armour types

and the Illisi's special only does <100% damage to Carapace iirc

[olive ember]

It doesn’t one shot crushers

Pls buff thx

[past parrot]

I need to go back and play VT2 I only played it on console near launch and it didn’t click

[spice oar]

cool thanks, didnt know about force swords not caring for armor that much

[spice veldt]

force sword heavies only deal <100% dmg to carapace, and for the lights I think it's only flak, carapace, and maniac that take <100% dmg? you'll have to open up the damage table to check but it's pretty good for what it is

[near wyvern]

Something like that but the heavy on Illisi deals so much more single target DPS that you should never ever light maniacs or carapace

Uncanny strike is garbage tier on any FS

[lethal folio]

Uncanny is for when you want to light spam into bruisers.

[olive ember]

Iirc the only weapon that rly utilizes uncanny is knife with push attack spam

[lethal folio]

also good for deimo stabbing crushers

[near wyvern]

Just.. no. DFS light heavy does the job, IFS heavy light combo works wonders if you don't want to special golf swing

[worthy jewel]

So, if I may ask, when you have a Bloodthirsty/Blazing Spirit Illisi, what are the Ideal Perks? I have 20% Flak Locked, but not sure what I should snag for the second.

currently have 25% Unyielding

[spice veldt]

i like having at least +maniac on my melees

[worthy jewel]

kk, I was thinking that might be better

[spice veldt]

if you want to spec really hard for hordeclear with your blazing spirit FS, then +infested is fine

but i hate mutants and dreg ragers

[lethal folio]

I'd rather not be animation locked facing crushers + other elites.

while doing faster damage.

[worthy jewel]

also with Shock Troop, Maniac hits Flamers and Trappers good too

[olive ember]

You don’t rly get animation locked with either sword tbh

Just that you two shot crushers with the DFS anyways so dunno how useful uncanny is

[blazing oak]

Do I sound like a jerk if I say I like my character having a weakness in their weapon choice, as in not being able to deal with a certain type of enemy

Like not taking a horde clear weapon

[spice veldt]

mmmmmmm

well your team does have to take on that burden

[bleak sonnet]

hey guys quick question

[spice veldt]

and if you ever need to clutch with a horde around, it's going to be slow

and you are dead if you ever go into a dead end in Hab Dreyko

[blazing oak]

But on the other hand, I can say I use Chainaxe and flamer and it doesn’t sound like a jerk move even though you are creating a weakness to shooters

[spice veldt]

you can always just throw yourself as bait to shooters

and the flamer has the range to touch shooters most of time

[near wyvern]

It was so quick I think I missed it

[blazing oak]

But if I say “I like having a character that has a weakness like a weakness to shooters”

Sounds worse

[spice veldt]

i'm lukewarm to that since I'm a psyker main

but ehhhh

[blazing oak]

It was an example

[spice veldt]

most classes have a ranged option

[blazing oak]

Replace flamer with Purgatus

[spice veldt]

well there's also BB

[blazing oak]

Ye

[spice veldt]

I hate psykers who only BB by default

fuckers should go launch themselves at shooters with melee

[blazing oak]

But I enjoy having characters that can’t do everything super well as it feels like it takes away from the teamwork aspect

[spice veldt]

that's true

I'm an extremely selfish player

[olive ember]

😦

[spice veldt]

I like to run ahead and kill enemies before my teammates can

[near wyvern]

When you play PUGs you learn you are the team

[olive ember]

I mean

Yes

But I’d like to think my team aren’t completely shit

[blazing oak]

I don’t mind if a guy kills my bb target unless they obviously did it on purpose

[olive ember]

I do it on purpose always

[spice veldt]

i do it on purpose if they BB something within my range and I know that there's an enemy outside of my range

[olive ember]

Fuck their stacks I’m trying to keep up my counterfire

[spice veldt]

mfers not learning to abuse the infinite range of BB

[blazing oak]

No like I mean if I’m bbing the poxwalker in a corner and they have cleared it and the knife zealot charges it while it’s being bb’d and kills it

After clearing the area*

[near wyvern]

They should make RMB BB charge the same speed as LMB BB. Would solve all the charge competition problems.

[spice veldt]

it's whatev since I get my warp charge anyways

[blazing oak]

If someone is doing it on purpose then you go gun psyker and steal all their ammo next game

[spice veldt]

esp since we generate peril while holding it at full charge

[near wyvern]

WDYM steal ammo gunker deals damage, it's putting ammo to good use. They are stealing it from gunker.

[spice veldt]

i can't believe my teammates would steal MY ammo

im gonna

im gonna

[blazing oak]

Like they are on low ammo and you have a vendetta so you shoot a single bullet to be able to take it

[near wyvern]

Yup. That should be the only 'penalty' for it.

[near wyvern]

It was an expensive bullet all right

[blazing oak]

I kind of want a unique primary attack for surge

[olive ember]

Bolt staff funny

Let me shoot lightning bolts

Like Zeus

Thx

[near wyvern]

No, we get copy pasta for moveset but not for Blessings

[blazing oak]

Or like would it be like a continuous single target lightning electrocution

As long as you hold primary

[spice veldt]

lightning gun

tracking single target DPS weapon

give me that shit

[blazing oak]

Wonder if they’ll give surge a slight buff to either dmg against unarmored or the # of stunned

Wouldn’t hurt

Or give it better light generation during lights out

[spice veldt]

make it always target daemonhosts

daemonhosts are basically light bulbs that you need to turn on :)

[blazing oak]

Speaking of daemonhosts, my match was auto lost when a DH killed me and the Ogryn, leaving the bots

Do bots not count anymore

It ended right after it killed me but the bots still lived

[spice veldt]

prob cuz the bots can't complete the map on their own

was the same in l4d2 where the game ended if all players died but not bots

[blazing oak]

It could still be programmed to wait around until the players respawned at the objective and went to go res them

We were right under the room with the event up some stairs

[past parrot]

I had a situation where a bot was last standing and a dude said “clutch or kick”

Dickot did not clutch it 😔

[vestal raven]

wait what lol does unstable give 4% power at nearly max peril?

[weak sapphire]

Psykerfriends. Is there a psykerfriendo who want to help me with some penances. I dont trust the plebs in lfg

[blazing oak]

Which ones

[olive ember]

its 5% per stack

[near wyvern]

Not anymore, it stacks a total of 4 times at 20/40/60/80 peril

[olive ember]

^^

so at 80%+ peril you have 20% power

[vestal raven]

mid

[olive ember]

which imo isn't that much but

its sizeable

[near wyvern]

It's nice on Deimos

[weak sapphire]

we can do just 1. I need either dmg a biggie alone or kill 5 elites in 12 sec.

[near wyvern]

Makes a good stab if you have been staffing a lot

[weak sapphire]

hard to achieve those when everyone is blastinhg 😄

[blazing oak]

Oh yeah i haven’t done that one either. I need to grind out some comms plex

[feral verge]

Unstable is Useful to push bursters further too

[blazing oak]

I’ll need to get my Ogryn another level or two for his shield but sure

Will find a dh and do it

[olive ember]

its mostly cuz all the new Force swords have deflector built in

[weak sapphire]

Heresy or damnation?

[olive ember]

and some poeple just don't like deflector

[near wyvern]

I kinda wanna try out unstable power exorcist Deimos with a Surge, I wonder if it's feasible to juggle between the two, stab to quell and stun to stab

[vestal raven]

fml bloodthirster is only a t4 perk

bad game

[blazing oak]

Gonna need to do heresy, because I have little Ogryn experience

[olive ember]

theres no damnation penances so you can kinda just do heresy

[feral verge]

That sounds kinda cool

[blazing oak]

Anyone else want to do join or

[olive ember]

I'm not even at my pc

[blazing oak]

Help multiple people put

[weak sapphire]

I prefer the randoms on damnation :S

[blazing oak]

Not right now

I’m not at a pc either

[olive ember]

I won't be home for another like

[weak sapphire]

Im in striketeam 43 channel for psykermuppetry

[olive ember]

3 hours rip and then I gotta work on assignments >.>

pain

[blazing oak]

Oh I can’t do it right now, but I can plan it

[weak sapphire]

Its ok, dm me later 🙂

[blazing oak]

Plan a time

[spice oar]

they what

[blazing oak]

Alright

[olive ember]

we are assuming its a bug, even one of the wardens thought so

but

yeah rn the two new force swords have deflector built in

[spice oar]

lmao

[olive ember]

Well people call it a bug but

[spice oar]

i imagine it is, since they can get the blessing

[olive ember]

apparently the two new force swords are using code based on august

so some people think Force swords were supposed to come with deflector

and they ripped it out and slapped in on a blessing instead

imo I'd think it would be cool to just give obsurus deflector by default and then rework the blessing

[near wyvern]

I would just appreciate that when they remove the built in Deflector they would also make it so that when you don't have Deflector you could actually see something while blocking.

[spice veldt]

somebody just released a mod for that, though it's currently causing crashing

[olive ember]

eh I can see fine with the force block

[spice veldt]

i hate blocking with the force sword

[olive ember]

never had a problem with the forcefield generated tbh

[near wyvern]

That is altering the visuals of the in game items so it's technically not legal

[spice veldt]

you can see but it takes way more focus for any clarity

[olive ember]

tbf how much clarity do you need when blocking

besides like a sniper

[spice veldt]

i think it's legal? stuff that's restricted to clientside seems to be fine

[near wyvern]

All you can get.

[spice veldt]

or is that more on the copyright sort of things

[olive ember]

🤔

[near wyvern]

There was a line that said one cannot alter the in game skins

And so on

[olive ember]

I mean it would kinda ruin the point if you could equip the paid cosmetics without paying via mods

so prob to stop that

I personally don't care but from a monetization perspective

[near wyvern]

Weapon / Apparel cosmetics are not allowed, I have no idea if the line is at actual models nor if FX is also included

[olive ember]

would it be considered a weapon cosmetic or a VFX change tho

cuz its not the weapon you are changing but the VFX you get while blocking

[near wyvern]

Which is part of the weapon.

[olive ember]

the forcefield transparency or wte

from the Force sword blocking

[near wyvern]

But the main question is if FX edits are allowed then it should be fine, but only an official response could resolve that

[olive ember]

idk cuz people had mods to remove psyker VFX from peril ya know

[near wyvern]

There is an official slider for that now

And that's not something you can alter in game with a skin

[olive ember]

well yes but what im sayin is that woul Force sword block VFX change be considered

[spice veldt]

it's posted in the modding discord so we'll presumably quickly see if it's allowed or not

[digital loom]

i dont use kinetic deflection and still cant block snipers

[spice veldt]

it certainly sits on that murky line

[near wyvern]

Yes

[olive ember]

eh third party stuff has always been a grey area

look at ffxiv debacle kekw

[warped kernel]

so what are the best perks for illisi force sword?

[edgy kite]

Hey folks, coming back to the game after a hiatus, gonna be picking up psyker, just wondering what the meta is atm for them?

[spice veldt]

same as any other melee since its special doesn't deal extra damage to flak unlike the other force swords

+maniac and +flak being my priorities

[warped kernel]

hm good to know

[autumn smelt]

still leveling my psyker and am wondering what blessings i should keep an eye out for on force staves and swords

ik that the deflecting one is good for the swords but like

thats all i know lmao

[feral verge]

Slaughterer, unstable power, deflector,

[spice veldt]

Slaughterer, Unstable Power, and Bloodthirsty in order of priority (slaughterer being most important)

Warp Flurry on all staffs, Warp Nexus for Surge and Purg, Rending Shockwave on Trauma, Transfer Peril on Voidstrike

[autumn smelt]

oh so it can get slaughterer
deflector and slaughterer is likely what ill get

[spice oar]

right now people are using a gun psyker build, with soulblaze and autogun

[feral verge]

Purgatus staff afaik. Feats: Ascendant blaze, warp unleashed, quietitude, warp battery, kinetic deflection

[spice oar]

but i dont rlly know "meta" cause i dont follow it usually

[olive ember]

stave blessings aren't shared so you probably wanna figure out which staff you want to focus on first (all staffs are good so up to personal preference) for fs you want slaughterer 4 first, and then deflector, unstable power, etc. etc. after

[edgy kite]

Cheers folks 🙂

[spice veldt]

all staffs are fairly viable

[olive ember]

this guy doesn't recommend deflector smh

[feral verge]

Just know, right now the two now force swords (illisi and Deimos) have deflector built in. It's probably a bug and will be latched out most likely

[spice veldt]

there's no strict one meta to rule them all, though I'd say that all staffs except surge are pretty good

[digital loom]

wish deflector let you deflect snipers...

[olive ember]

except warp flurry on all staffs, and slaughterer on all force swords

[spice oar]

surge for stagger, void for horde, purge for dot and trauma for a mix of the first 2(though please make surge more satisfying i dont wish to be a stun bot)

[feral verge]

Purga is horde too

[spice oar]

apparently new class is gonna have a "smite" ability weirdly

[feral verge]

Surge is the worst imo

[spice oar]

ik, but it can deal good dot on bosses and shit if you stack it

[feral verge]

Ik

[spice oar]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[autumn smelt]

does the chained secondary on warp flurry buff still stack if you reduce peril below 97% continously

[olive ember]

wait so

throwing knife psyker is gone?!?!

NOOOOOOO

[autumn smelt]

or does it have to be instantly back to back to back

[spice oar]

no no no i think its the grenade that the smite is

[spice veldt]

nah, you have to be holding RMB continuously and entering any other animation (quelling, suicide anim) will break it

brain burst should be smite iirc

[olive ember]

pressing F to vent doesn't tho

[spice oar]

the throwing knives are still very much still an option

[autumn smelt]

ah so the best way to make use of it is to chain it from 0 peril

[spice veldt]

yup

[autumn smelt]

still, with a t4 warp flurry that shit can go stupid crazy

[feral verge]

Warp flurry also reduces peril cost

[autumn smelt]

??

[feral verge]

Yes

[spice veldt]

since peril% is generated per second, not per charge

[autumn smelt]

oh just indirectly?

neat

[spice veldt]

unlike the Charge Rate stat on staffs, the game doesn't proportionally increase the peril% generated per second to account for the charge speed buff provided for Flurry

[autumn smelt]

thats bonkers

[spice veldt]

is very nice

[leaden thunder]

what do you bet it'll be changed at some point?

[spice veldt]

maybe

it's hard to tell what is a feature and what is a feature(tm)

[leaden thunder]

since that seems like it shouldn't work from a technical standpoint but it'd be good if it got baked in

[feral verge]

they better keep illisi rub in

or better yet, give it to deimos and obscurus

[lethal folio]

Throwing knife is gunslinger

Chain lightning was the ||other one||

[olive ember]

shouldn't be using known exploits

[autumn smelt]

the more and more i get into and research psyker the more and more glad i am that i chose it as my 2nd class after veteran

this shit go crazy

[feral verge]

it really do

[olive ember]

do we know if these things are still actual subclass leaks or just leftover code

[feral verge]

welcome sibling

[olive ember]

cuz the surge staff is basically chain lightning

[leaden thunder]

we don't, I don't think

[lethal folio]

All we can know is from leftover code.

But it can be assumed that most stuff will be used.

[feral verge]

have you seen this? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

written by our very own @near wyvern

[autumn smelt]

have not, havent played psyker much, lvl 22

[lethal folio]

Chain lightning is on surge staff, so it is possible that a new one will be made,.

[autumn smelt]

ill keep that link on hand tho

[spice oar]

lmao we actually be reading our chronicles of sacred knowledge n shit

[spice oar]

also a damage version of a lightning staff, kinda like the beam staff for sienna would go hard

[autumn smelt]

truly a psyker thing to do to call it an atheneum instead of a comprehensive guide

[halcyon fractal]

true

[orchid shadow]

Is the updated Warp Unleashed beneficial to a Surge Psyker if I tend to BB a lot? Or is it better to go with Inner Tranquility for more Lightning CC with 6 stacks?

[olive ember]

Eh I run it with my surge psyker

[autumn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/salutations-salutations-my-good-chum-seal-the-creature-lovethisseal-gif-24195290

[halcyon fractal]

salutations

[proud pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/greetings-gif-24393994

[shadow wigeon]

I would stick with Tranquility. WU will get you a Crusher in 2 shots at 6 stacks.

[spice oar]

wrack and ruin is affected by kinetic flayer? Splendid

[sly shore]

what are good blessings/perks on voidstrike?

[orchid shadow]

Okay thanks! Wasn't sure if I was supposed to be squeezing as much as I could out of BB if my team was having trouble taking out multiple Crushers and Bulwarks

[halcyon fractal]

warp flurry + transfer peril are the general goto blessings for a voidstrike

[shadow wigeon]

There is some merit to it, but 36% reduced peril is a lot of CC you can do. Sometimes as psyker in a pub you are the only carapace killer, just pay attention to your team setup. 6 stacks will 2 shot a bulwark, no WU.

[spice oar]

surge is good, essentially double dmg

[halcyon fractal]

surge only procs on crits and psyker doesent have a high base crit or good ways to increase crit substationally so its not super optimal

[stone pulsar]

so how good is this

[shadow wigeon]

FWIW Warp Flurry 4 will let you (just barely) get 7 full charges off instead of 6 (going from 0 to 100 peril, 6 stacks). It's faster and by extension slightly less peril.

If you want to up your CC with surge

[olive ember]

Warp flurry + transfer peril is meta, crit strike is off meta (warp nexus + blazing spirit or warp nexus + surge) , after that it’s all meme blessings

[orchid shadow]

If only I could get that Flurry 4 I would be so happy. Have to settle with Nexus 4, Flurry 3

[shadow quail]

Does toughness regen stack with quietitude?

[stone pulsar]

like how important first target is on a horde clearing force sword?

[olive ember]

Toughness regen on curios only applies to passive regen from coherency or wte

Iirc

[leaden thunder]

it is still quite good

imo

[shadow wigeon]

I'm sure it's a really fine point, but Charge Rate, Warp Resistance and Flurry will all connect to get your more CC. You'll find it eventually.

[fading shoal]

How rare is deflector? I got it at level 16 albeit tier 1

[shadow wigeon]

Also, while Crushers can be your responsibility - your lightning opens up Bulwarks, hopefully your team will catch on and merc them.

[leaden thunder]

should be as rare as any other blessings

[shadow wigeon]

Tier whatever works well enough. You need to get to level 20 to have the real fun with it.

[olive ember]

Not too rare but t4’s are very rare

I think t4’s are just super rare in general it’s why stuff like bloodthirsty and surge which only appear as a t4 are so rare

[orchid shadow]

One can dream. 😛 I'd also have to hope the new staff is better than this.

[shadow wigeon]

Let's be real, that's pretty boss. 99% of peak.

I don't think you're missing that 2% more flurry much (i did not do ze maths)

[leaden thunder]

10% total

which isn't a big deal at all

esp on surge

[olive ember]

It’s more so that it buffs damage for rest of the kit

Including BB and your melee

Which makes it worth taking

Oh wait

Are you not talking about warp unleashed

[feral verge]

encountered a revolver psyker on high int shock damn. with 2 wound curios lol. vodaak

(we lost)

[shadow wigeon]

Try Terrifying Barrage instead of Nexus sometime, and see if you like the bit of extra CC. You'll lose some random crit bombs, but you can punk medium range shooter groups sometimes, or save a zealot that's just out of range of a pack of shooters. It's tricky to use.

[feral verge]

he was p good at not taking damage but

revolver not a good pick

[cold geode]

thats a bit of damage for someone with a revolver

lol

[feral verge]

revolver and deimos

[cold geode]

yea, sounds like a recipe for disaster