Which is great
#psyker-class
ornate hamlet
ember hornet
I brought a trauma for backup and didn't use it for 3 games lol
so I switched to an autopistol
cyan notch
i used revolver for a couple games and i fired less than 20 bullets total
ornate hamlet
Its like a mini flamer
wise pecan
Yeah all (shot)gunners are flak, which surge eats
jovial mural
really wish the new force sword did an empowered thrust thing that pierced through a bunch of enemies when you warp charge it instead of just doing what the regular force sword does
kinda like this drawing
(based on my impresions on the weapon so far, I havent been able to try it yet)
ember hornet
if fatshark wants their game to be broken easy then I guess I'll join in
ornate hamlet
Diemos being a line cleave would have been cool
cyan notch
i wouldnt use it if it were that
wise pecan
i wouldnt use it if it were that
You use the charged deimos strike as it is now?
cyan notch
yea
wise pecan
Why?
ornate hamlet
Atm isn't Deimos just better Obscurus
cyan notch
yes
ornate hamlet
So they should've made Obscurus better and given Deimos a different niche
cyan notch
Why?
1 shot mutants/ 1 shot flamers/ 1 shot maulers/ assassination boss/stunlock crushers
wise pecan
1 shot mutants/ 1 shot flamers/ 1 shot maulers/ assassination boss/stunlock crus...
You know what else does 99% of that, but faster and still letting you dodge? L1H2
cyan notch
You know what else does 99% of that, but faster and still letting you dodge? L1H...
special is better for those things i just mentioned
summer prairie
and headshotting some targets with l1/h2 isn't that trivial
ember hornet
1 shot mutants/ 1 shot flamers/ 1 shot maulers/ assassination boss/stunlock crus...
and it does all of this faster than hammer 
jovial mural
really wish the new force sword did an empowered thrust thing that pierced throu...
it has such a cool design, I just wish it did something different cuz of its unique design it should have a unique thing with its gameplay
golden tartan
and headshotting some targets with l1/h2 isn't that trivial
Tbf neither is special L1 or special H1
summer prairie
you dont have to headshot with those
golden tartan
H2 is also one of the best headhunter attacks in the game tbh
Melee attacks taht is
summer prairie
like you can charge l1 bodyshot flamers
cyan notch
special heavy can kill mutants and maulers without headshot and obviously flamers but u use light special for that
golden tartan
like you can charge l1 bodyshot flamers
you can also just l1 flamers iirc
shy prairie
really wish the new force sword did an empowered thrust thing that pierced throu...
sick sketch
silent trout
any suggested perks and blessings for a trauma staff? I'm seeing lots of people using blazing spirit?
golden tartan
L1 does 622 to weakspots on flamers
Wait isnt l1 the high damage thrust?
622 sounds like L2
ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
It's the stab
golden tartan
bro 600 on a light
Flamers take 3x damage
ornate hamlet
Yeah but you do 87
shy prairie
any suggested perks and blessings for a trauma staff? I'm seeing lots of people ...
focused channeling w/ warp flurry for being able to stand infront of shooters and crunch them has been advocated many a time
cyan notch
Flamers take 3x damage
ok and
wise pecan
So they should've made Obscurus better and given Deimos a different niche
I think obscurus is supposed to be a midpoint between Single Target Deimos and Hordebreaker Illisi, but Deimos has so much cleave on its thrusts and Obscurus’s moveset is so vertical that Deimos completely overshadows it, even though at least with my swords the Obscurus has a stronger charge attack
golden tartan
Unless it has a really bad maniac damage modifier
cyan notch
default fs lights are garbage damage
ornate hamlet
Obscurus just does nothing good anymore. Its attacks are all awkward to cleave with and its charge attack is just worse than Deimos.
ornate hamlet
H2 on Deimos will one-shot HS flamers though
wise pecan
default fs lights are garbage damage
I mean 4/5 of deimos’s light attacks are also garbage, it’s really just L1 that’s good
golden tartan
viral solstice
i could do more than that
cyan notch
I mean 4/5 of deimos’s light attacks are also garbage, it’s really just L1 that’...
no theyre diagonal lights (and fast) unlike obscurus
ember hornet
how quickly can you cancel deimos to do l1
summer prairie
push into h2 is a decent alternative vs flamers but slower
golden tartan
I dont think it has any cleave
cyan notch
the strikedown/vanguard/assassin thing doesnt really matter imo
its just naming conventions to give u a rough idea
ornate hamlet
Yes
But usually
Attacks on the same weapon in the same category
Work the same
But H1 and H2 are extremely different
golden tartan
It has 6 cleave
Ok testing it now
viral solstice
what if the maniacs are reading the manual
wise pecan
no theyre diagonal lights (and fast) unlike obscurus
They’re great if my goal is to blow kisses on the enemy, worthless if I want to kill them
ornate hamlet
Is just a joke
cyan notch
They’re great if my goal is to blow kisses on the enemy, worthless if I want to ...
they 1 shot with slaughter pretty sure
ornate hamlet
The L2-4 on Deimos all have 2x the cleave of L1
golden tartan
Is just a joke
The L1 also has cleave it seems like
ornate hamlet
L1 should have 1 cleave without power buffs
chrome arch
something ain't right, and I don't like it
wise pecan
they 1 shot with slaughter pretty sure
Stack up a 90% damage buff and kisses are lethal, sure
chrome arch
5 stacks, no WU, and I can't 1BB Hound on t4?
golden tartan
5 stacks, no WU, and I can't 1BB Hound on t4?
Hounds have a billion HP
chrome arch
I keep losing t4s and rebuilding
chrome arch
totally clueless about psyker builds
ornate hamlet
I guess 6 stacks on T4 should work?
wise pecan
Hounds have a fuckload of hp and an equally fuckhuge melee damage taken multiplier
chrome arch
ascendant blaze fires up like... 3 people?
golden tartan
@ornate hamlet Also the calculator seems off
chrome arch
totally confused
golden tartan
Thats a L1 for me
ornate hamlet
What's your sword
cyan notch
Stack up a 90% damage buff and kisses are lethal, sure
no theres many other ways too with warp charges/warp unleashed/slaughterer/unstable power all you need is like a 45% buff
wise pecan
ascendant blaze fires up like... 3 people?
Ascendant blaze is a long range, relatively narrow cone
chrome arch
Ascendant blaze is a long range, relatively narrow cone
ah!
chrome arch
i thought it is AoE around you
ornate hamlet
There ya go
chrome arch
explains a bit
ornate hamlet
Calc is usually right
Since it only takes values from the game afaik
Bomber damage on Deimos L1
Casual 1244 damage
wise pecan
Yeah nah it’s a cone. Off the top of my head, I think it’s slightly narrower but a decent bit longer range than the ult’s stagger
ornate hamlet
With the +20% maniac?
It should, yeah.
Deimos really do be cracked though
Might be the nuttiest single target weapon atm
golden tartan
Yea
summer prairie
dagger still beats it in high intensity situations
golden tartan
Its horde clear isnt that bad either
summer prairie
you can chill within a horde with it and kill 4 shotgunners
viral solstice
like this
cyan notch
yea having a push attack that damages is pretty nice
viral solstice
golden tartan
Remember Deimos can get slaughterer
inland sand
my deimos can 1 shot head shot FLamers with the heavy thrust, without being charged
ornate hamlet
Idk I've felt like Knife pushes have just gotten fucked
inland sand
this thing is nutty
ornate hamlet
I keep getting hit from behind while push attacking
wise pecan
totally clueless about psyker builds
The meta right now is, essentially, to stack damage at almost all costs. Feats wise: Lv5 toughness on peril loss, Lv10 10-25% free damage, Lv15 free warp charges, Lv20 peril blocking, Lv25 6 warp charges, Lv30 pick your poison
cyan notch
well the attack part isnt safe
ornate hamlet
Level 15 is Lacerations for that sick boss damage, duh
ornate hamlet
I vuw me fwamer
cyan notch
always amusing to see 2 flamers open fire down a lane then suddenly jump forward 20m
golden tartan
L1 H2 kills a flak rager
golden tartan
Charged H1 doesn't kill maniac rager
So H1 H2 is superior vs maniac rager
Good to know
ornate hamlet
What do I do about all the rest of their HP, crab?
ornate hamlet
Prove it
viral solstice
but they ded
wise pecan
In the off chance that they aren’t dead, you probably missed. Try clicking them again
cyan notch
if u have warp charges/warp unleashed and +maniac you can 1 shot dreg rager pretty easily
ornate hamlet
Just use the quickswap method
viral solstice
how long does it take to kill boss shield with that useless force sword anyway
ornate hamlet
5
golden tartan
how long does it take to kill boss shield with that useless force sword anyway
The deimos?
wise pecan
Deimos? It cracks the shield pretty nicely. Also cracks the skull underneath it nicely too
cyan notch
not great cuz no headshots vs shields
ornate hamlet
When you special
wise pecan
It is no rashad, that’s true
cyan notch
aka pretty damn mid
viral solstice
golden tartan
When you special
Skill issue
cyan notch
Why does it lose its finesse damage
wdym
ornate hamlet
golden tartan
wdym
Special headshots on the deimos dont do significantly improved damage over special bodyshots.
As opposed to normal stabs being like
wise pecan
Going from doing 2x damage on weakspot
That must be why it feels like the special only does like 50% at most more damage
golden tartan
I too enjoy one shotting flamers
ornate hamlet
The special to the body does the same damage as H2 does to the head
So yeah even if you weakspot its like a 20% damage increase
Compared to just weakspot H2
golden tartan
And special to the head does less damage than a L1H2 to the head
And L1H2 is faster
ornate hamlet
The special is there for jerking off
golden tartan
H2 even has carapen
golden tartan
I think L1 has carapen
wise pecan
The special is there for jerking off
Say what you will about class balance, but psyker is the only one who can stroke their long sword mid mission
ornate hamlet
ACtually H1 also does 900 to carapace
cyan notch
theyre the same shit
ornate hamlet
Stupid ass weapon
golden tartan
Spec H1 and H2 do same damage ye
cyan notch
yes cuz its bugged atm
wise pecan
Lol, lmao
wise pecan
It’s like a creepypasta abandoned Disneyland rollercoaster
You never know what you’ll get
cyan notch
its doing that thing where it doesnt scale with stats like some taxe lights in the past
cold geode
Pox busters... It's always pox busters
wise pecan
Pox busters... It's always pox busters
Have you tried mastering the art of shoving them into your teammates
cold geode
Have you tried mastering the art of shoving them into your teammates
I shoot them with me shredder
cyan notch
trauma better unfortunately
wise pecan
Pushing them works most reliably if the AI director knows that you’ll just ping pong them into the veteran
ornate hamlet
Trauma doesn't let you save yourself from a burster teleporting onto you
wise pecan
Purgatus spurts also act as a functioning shove
Without the risk of chaining onto six pox walkers (and not the burster) in a horde
civic fox
What blessings y'all like to run on Surge?
civic fox
Oh so you get downed in the hordes got it
ornate hamlet
Surge players
civic fox
wise pecan
What blessings y'all like to run on Surge?
Flurry is fixed now, so that’s probably best
civic fox
Flurry is fixed now, so that’s probably best
Thank god.
cyan notch
i have nexus barrage
cyan notch
one of em yea
ornate hamlet
Actually barrage is probably okay on Surge
I don't think the lightning does any suppression
So you don't get suppression immune enemies all the time
ornate hamlet
Extra fun when you can just use the LMB spam to suppress enemies anyway
cyan notch
they should give staves unstable power
wise pecan
Barrage seems a bit redundant on surge? Anything in close range you’re liable to accidentally stun anyways, and it’s super easy to maintain effectiveness while also watching your own flank with surge
viral solstice
they should give the surge a reason to exist
like it should make a cool noise
or maybe it is cool and refreshing in hot summer weather
i dont know
but it needs something
civic fox
I use surge exclusively to push pox walkers away like 30 feet or into my friends because it's funny every time
Busters *
viral solstice
imagine if u could get one of those huge construction robots
and just scoop up a huge scoop of zombies
and drop them on ur friends
wise pecan
I use surge exclusively to push pox walkers away like 30 feet or into my friends...
It’s best when you do it on a map with deathpits
shy prairie
I got a surge with IV barrage the other day and feel obligated to use it
civic fox
It's like putting the burster on a leash
viral solstice
it is of course worth noting
civic fox
I got a surge with IV barrage the other day and feel obligated to use it
That's what I have now but it feels meh
shy prairie
literally have no idea if it works, though using surge to strategically redirect poxbombers into crowds of enemies is neat
civic fox
but we keep that quiet
That's because voidstrike is stupid
viral solstice
nono
cyan notch
just kill them outright with trauma everything else invalidated and should be bartered away
civic fox
Gun>voidstrike
civic fox
just kill them outright with trauma everything else invalidated and should be ba...
Trauma so fun
wise pecan
that u can shove poxbursters with voidstrike
Shoving them with an attack that is likely to kill them seems… risky
viral solstice
u just do a zero charge and they flop away
u can start it literally as they leap
wise pecan
Fair
wise pecan
just cycle them
That’s what she said
viral solstice
cyan notch
then u get in the back by zombie with club and hitstunned now u go boom
wise pecan
But who was phone?
wise pecan
Ah, that explains it
civic fox
Replace my brain burst with lightening I can shoot from hand and we all pretend surge never existed
ornate hamlet
Shield bubble Psyker when
kind jay
psyker only shredder 2.0 which is just shredder but every bullet is a charged surge
ornate hamlet
GunPsyker
Where your active puts you into a state of intense focus, doing +50% damage, ignoring suppression and stagger while highlighting enemies
viral solstice
why would u want that, i want to be put into a state of intense chill
just pure relaxation
dawn sphinx
I suppose that's a pretty decent staff!
wise pecan
I suppose that's a pretty decent staff!
That is, indeed, not bad. Probably worth switching warp flurry for nexus, though
Purgatus crits are real good
dawn sphinx
That is, indeed, not bad. Probably worth switching warp flurry for nexus, though
This is where I would put my nexus - IF I HAD ONE!
dawn sphinx
But yeah. Overall I am satisfied with this one! Just gotta find a nexus to rip out of another staff and I'm set for a while!
I mean. . . I have a tier 3 one, might as well use that!
Nevermind. That was on the surge staff.
stable silo
for gunker warp harvest bis
dawn sphinx
I feel that in my bones
Complain and you shall receive, I suppose!
stable silo
your gun miss the fast charge times for when it gets alittle choatic
but the crit burn stax is great
u could always reroll elite dmg to crit chance for even more burn
rancid spruce
Siblings, which perks/blessing are you using on your Trauma staves ?
Warp flurry is a mandatory one for me but I'm curious
As of now, using this one. Could be better but eh, gotta do with what RNG allows me to have
stable silo
mines very similar to yours but i doubled down
warp nexus on trauma IMO
flurry/nexus is super solid combo on most other than void where quelling is strong
rancid spruce
Alrighty, thanks for intel, will try that out.
spice veldt
I like focused channeling on trauma as you have now to play aggressively into shooters
and +Unarmoured and +flak to hit breakpoints on dreg enemies and gunners/shotgunners more reliably
stable silo
i mean you could also meme trauma and get fire farts with blazing soul/nexus
spam no charge trauma to proc fire crits
lol
vale creek
id put crit if i could reach at least 70% crit rate and stack crit power
anyways feels kinda pointless
stable silo
def cant get to 70% crit
rancid spruce
However it's common to be able to do around 5 fully charged trauma boom in hordes / shooters while beeing at critical peril thanks to battle meditation, therefore gaining +16% crit thanks to warp nexus (+20 with blessing lvl 4 ?), which means you have at least a crit, statistically speaking, every cycle
Not THAT GOOD, but still okay ?
spice veldt
though the crit multiplier on trauma is terrible
stable silo
trauma is the best feeling staff to use IMO warp explosions and body parts flying is very satisfying esp when you ult and your character starts laughing manically while continuing to spam
ornate hamlet
do we have subclasses or items that can go over 80% base stats yet?
spice veldt
nope
stable silo
never got a weapon that comes close to that level of satisfaction during horde fights
rancid spruce
Probably planned for DLC 😇
stable silo
i think they were saying stats will increase when they inevitably add red weapons
ornate hamlet
so we're in early access then
stable silo
people were talking about it of course unsourced but maybe?
well yeah the game released in alpha we are prob at beta level atm
pretty good game after the updates can only go up from here so i hope
ornate hamlet
is that why when i join a lobby i load in stuck inside the floor?
stable silo
no thats your PC prob being a potato, i got stuck in a wall once enemies ignored me allies hated me and i just sipped my coffee
waitin for a wandering dog to ravage me back to freedom, it didnt happen
summer prairie
We had a total of 321 disabler/special kills in that hi/shock run
past parrot
I played ~25 hours of Psyker before I realized I could use my Ult to stop myself from exploding.
fiery atlas
purgatus crits go brrrrrrrr
fiery atlas
I played ~25 hours of Psyker before I realized I could use my Ult to stop myself...
it...took you that long?
well tbf it took me about that long to figure out vt2's crafting system
latent tree
Any tips for this class
stable silo
stick with it was the best tip i ever got
i was playing at the start and felt useless compared to veterans and zealots
latent tree
I need to for that achievement
stable silo
then i leveld up got some good items and its just boosh
past parrot
I failed several missions due to self-destructing out of my own negligence
fiery atlas
Any tips for this class
if you reach 100% peril you will not instantly explode
stable silo
esp now peril is super easy to manage and your way stronger
its enver been hard but now its cake
fiery atlas
idk about much else just have fun
olive ember
warp resist used to be meta cuz both active and passive quelling was alot slower
latent tree
Yea I treat the ult as my oh shit button
fiery atlas
BB is v good for destroying elites and bosses
olive ember
but they've consecutively buffed both patch and patch so
now you kinda just bring warp unleashed
stable silo
for staffs the dump stat u want is generally warp res or quell speed one or the other covers the opposite
fiery atlas
very good cc tool + good for BB spam
spice veldt
I'd personally have warp res as my dumpster for quietude
latent tree
What staff is the best
olive ember
they are all meta tbh
latent tree
@fiery atlas can u speed up bb
olive ember
rly depends on map and conditions n shit
and no don't talking sean Ik what you are gonna say
.>
olive ember
ehh
latent tree
Hmm OK I like trauma staff
stable silo
one you like the best feel of actually i didnt believe it at first but its true
shit sean and derpy are here i learned alot from those degenerates
leaden thunder
they are all good
stable silo
listen to them
leaden thunder
don't listen to me
olive ember
I am not a degen
leaden thunder
I am a shouty in disguise
stable silo
shutup sean il tell you who you to listen to you psyker sherpa
olive ember
I just have nothing else to do while I sit on campus and stare at the clouds
fiery atlas
<@197625002152034306> can u speed up bb
yeah it's a lvl 30 talent
latent tree
Ohhh
past parrot
Use Surge Staff while leveling because you don’t need good stats to CC 😎
fiery atlas
upon ult, your BB speed goes up and then decreases with each consecutive move
also deimos/obscurus sword specials act as a mini BB
stable silo
oh try to snag a good illis FS its great generalist melee that works well with any ranged
leaden thunder
i'd agree
forest coral
acksually
olive ember
because then you will suck at dodging anything
fiery atlas
surge staves are ok if you need to do smth for your team
past parrot
I built a yellow Illis around level 20 and used it until 30
olive ember
its not reliant on stats nor is it reliant on a build
you kinda just
spam it at mutants and bursters
and make life easier for team
past parrot
Purge staff with short Flame range was not cutting it prior to 30 for me
forest coral
tbh
fiery atlas
yeah you can take a white surge staff and cc everything even in damnation
olive ember
but at the same time, you should prob learn how to dodge trappers and mutants and dogs n shit
and how to shove bursters
and taking the surge staff is a good way to completely miss out on that learning experience
fiery atlas
burster shoves are kind of easy to get
past parrot
The key to Surge staff is only pull it out when you actually need it. Don’t waste time blasting hordes with it since it’s honestly faster to let them run to your teammates to get melee’d
forest coral
even with average stats
kind jay
just make a shredder and take the easy way out
forest coral
only if they got pinning fire tho
kind jay
you dont even need blessings for leveling
forest coral
without it its a w f u l
olive ember
I mean I blast hordes sometimes but its def a rly situational thing
leaden thunder
shredder is still pretty shit without blessings
fiery atlas
voidstrike is very spammable
kind jay
yeah but itll do just fine on leveling tiers
leaden thunder
voidstrike is an easy staff to learn
fiery atlas
very good damage for what it does
kind jay
a gun staff
olive ember
instead of point and click
forest coral
its like, munch munch
olive ember
play bowling
leaden thunder
tbh it's suprising that void isn't the first one unlocked
forest coral
whats cbt
olive ember
closed beta test
forest coral
oh right
olive ember
its also a direct port of the conflag staff from VT from what I heard
spice veldt
thinking about something else?
leaden thunder
its also a direct port of the conflag staff from VT from what I heard
it's close
cyan notch
its also a direct port of the conflag staff from VT from what I heard
absolutely not
cyan notch
conflag aiming wasnt complete shit
leaden thunder
but the targeting is similar visually
forest coral
conflag staff would be kinda wild in this game
spice veldt
trauma is still a bad staff to give to beginners
forest coral
if you knew all the enemy spawn locations
forest coral
ye
leaden thunder
didn't a lot of people have issues with the conflag in vt
olive ember
I mean its not even meta iirc
cyan notch
conflag was mid
olive ember
that goes to the beam and the coruscation staff
cyan notch
corus or beam or bolt better
forest coral
oh wait
leaden thunder
I am thinking of corus
forest coral
was conflag
the one that set down a stationary fire
i cant remember anymore lol
or coruscation
cyan notch
corus firepatch lasts longer but doesnt knock down
leaden thunder
I was thinking of corus
cyan notch
conflag knocks down and leaves a short fire patch
leaden thunder
as the one people had issues with
forest coral
like coruscation in cataclysm was pretty insane
fire forget, focus on burning sword or daggering
and even if u didnt top elite kills
ur damage was stoopid
forest coral
coruscation, firesword bm sienna
cyan notch
famished flames
viscid cedar
ye
forest coral
the fire hungy
leaden thunder
very
viscid cedar
throw flames and hold block, all the cata CWs just slowly die
or firesword heavies
for unlimited cleave
cyan notch
fire is pretty bad vs cw
forest coral
i find they just sort of eventually die if the others havent dealt with them by then
latent tree
What states should I prioritise
forest coral
states?
forest coral
nuke ohio
steel flame
Ohio deserves exterminatus
fiery atlas
no we exterminatus florida first
then ohio
ohio isn't a priority target, at this time
forest coral
kind jay
space marine vs florida man
idk man. floridaman got gators and confederate flags on his side
forest coral
those alligators got teeth, curved teeth
latent tree
What tier pykers is the darktidwe character
cyan notch
wat
golden frigate
yes
twilit veldt
the dead inside kind
olive ember
in lore they have psykers thrown into tiers or wte
I mean we are battle psykers, probably below primaris thats all Ik XD
there was a lore video that said what we might be but its kinda wishy washy
forest coral
all others are insects
ornate hamlet
inland sand
some Ogryn was just kicking off at me
for using the Trauma staff
he was like 'stop trolling me'
and i had no idea wtf he meant
but he was getting SO mad at me to the point where he literally wouldn't res me
was baffling
leaden thunder
where you like
spreading a horde around or something?
that's about the only thing I can think of that'd get people pissy
past parrot
So when everyone is calling me a beta for playing Psyker, they actually mean I’m really powerful?
inland sand
nah man
ornate hamlet
So when everyone is calling me a beta for playing Psyker, they actually mean I’m...
lol
forest coral
oof
inland sand
it was High Intensity Damnation
leaden thunder
probably just a shitter then
inland sand
hordes were dense and trapped in narrow passages
so fucking weird
He was called Kets
ornate hamlet
half the ogryn players out there are dogshit, and 90% of vet players are dogshit
past parrot
Maybe he wanted to smash big horde?
honest frigate
What level would the ingame psyker be? gamma?
Cuz alpha plus can literally snap worlds in two
river sand
gues he was mad cause trauma is meta staff when played right and he had nothing to do ?
ornate hamlet
What level would the ingame psyker be? gamma?
we're so low we can't even see auras around living beings like we're supposed to be able to
we're practically "blanks"
honest frigate
Dude dont over qnalyze it like that, i mean in terms of strenght of our attacks
What tier would that make us
ornate hamlet
past parrot
How strong is an Epsilon Psyker? Are they like spoon bending powerful at most?
ornate hamlet
honest frigate
Yes dude i get it
All i was asking what tier is the ingame psyker comparable to in terms of power
ornate hamlet
we're omegas
latent tree
S@ornate hamlet so astartes pykers are top tier
forest coral
yeah
ornate hamlet
it's the last letter in the greek alphabet
forest coral
omega lul
ornate hamlet
Omega
honest frigate
We arent omegas
ornate hamlet
ω
honest frigate
We clearly can use attacks like biomancer lighting
latent tree
Malcador was built different but I think he was a perpetual
He lasted on the Golden throne
honest frigate
An omega wont be able to explode someones brain
ornate hamlet
yet they'd have witch sight, which we don't
latent tree
I need the Greek alphabet
honest frigate
yet they'd have witch sight, which we don't
Cuz youre over analyzing the irrelevant details
ornate hamlet
dude, it's important
karmic copper
@inland sand keep doing your pewpew. We know your intention are for the greater good. He doesnt know how many rats youve slayed
honest frigate
Its not important when im literally only asking about the combat power of the psyker
ornate hamlet
we should be able to see living creatures regardless of light levels and fog and shit
karmic copper
Heretics**
ornate hamlet
psyker class only, should be able to see all enemies all the time
and friendlies, even through walls
instead, Veteran can
fatshark took psyker's ability and gave it to vets bro
honest frigate
Okay anyways can anyone else more knowledgeable tell me what tier would the ingame psyker be?
Im guessing like Gamma
Not really weak but not overly destructible eithee
Since if we were to go incrementally from alpha plus (which can destroy planets if not galaxies) all the way down to gamma, which sits in the middle, it makes sense somewhat?
honest frigate
i never mentioned space marines
ornate hamlet
space marine librarian
honest frigate
And psykers can be alphas without being space Marines
ornate hamlet
stray warren
I feel like this ain't bad. But what do I change? 👀
honest frigate
How
olive ember
I mean we are strong enough to be battle psykers
and we apparently can use skills from multiple branches or wte so prob mid grade atleast
wte that is
honest frigate
if we're strong enough to be battle psykers we obviously cant be at the bottom tiers because as far as i know those are either for astropaths or as food for the emperor
Hence why im guessing gamma tier
Which is a middle
latent tree
I guess Gama too
vale creek
sigma psyker
latent tree
We aint no scrub but were not eisenhorn or Def not malcador
Malcador can 1 shot a primarch
ornate hamlet
we have no divination, telepathy, or astartes powers like force dome or anything cool from librarius discipline, we have brain burst and charging force sword, that's it.
brain burst is sort of like "smite" but it's only 1 target not multiple.
we're like really weak versions of a Codex Astartes Space Marine Librarian
vale creek
we cant even 1 shot a heretic ogryn, unless?
past parrot
We can set a bunch of dudes on fire with our brains which is pretty cool
ornate hamlet
no technomancy, no geokinesis, no obscuration, we are Fulmination only, and hardly have access to anything even remotely as powerful as actual Psykers have access to.
Nor do we have abilities all psykers are supposed to have
olive ember
I'm pretty sure alot of our abilities are from biomancy
ornate hamlet
<@456226577798135808> we got lightning and fire orbs and smite
those are from the staves themselves, and we can only use 1 on a mission
none of our abilities match up with traditional warhammer psyker stuff
latent tree
@ornate hamlet isn't the staff just a conduit
ornate hamlet
<@456226577798135808> isn't the staff just a conduit
not in this game, no.
latent tree
@ornate hamlet flames are in warhammer
honest frigate
Staves are extensions of the psykers powers, wouldnt that mean our psyker is actually Relatively weak?
on his own
ornate hamlet
BB and surge is like a fulmination disciple, but has access to only 2 abilities, not 7+
latent tree
@honest frigate well he's c tier or gamma
honest frigate
So maybe gamma minus or even under but i dont know what each tier fully represents
Oh alr
stray warren
Isn't the staff just...a staff? The psyker is basically just going "Okay I'll just cast this this mission."
ornate hamlet
purge and trauma are more like Astartes powers, but again, only 2 things not 10+
ornate hamlet
Isn't the staff just...a staff? The psyker is basically just going "Okay I'll ju...
no if this were true, it'd be like harry potter or something with wands
honest frigate
Isn't the staff just...a staff? The psyker is basically just going "Okay I'll ju...
Its for gameplay/balancing purposes, we arent talking about that rn
ornate hamlet
dude, psykers are basically mages with a full range of powers you'd expect, like invisibility, flying, etc.
we're nothing like a real psyker
olive ember
I mean we are battle psykers atleast
honest frigate
You cant define a "real" Psyker because psykers vary greatly depending on their tier, not to mention the game has its limitations/balancing set in place
Dont get that mixed up
ornate hamlet
and by the way, psykers are supposed to be more powerful in groups, a group of psykers are supposed to have amplified abilities
latent tree
Who do you think wins mephiston or eisenhorn
honest frigate
none because i dont know those (im a noob)
ornate hamlet
like, if fatshark actually gave psyker class a bonus when you are in cohrency of other psykers specifically, that'd match up with the lore
latent tree
none because i dont know those (im a noob)
Huh neat
honest frigate
Well not really a noob more of a casual fan
i only know of the major events in the wh40k universe and whatnot
ornate hamlet
like, when in coherency (with other psykers), we should have increased void damage output, and increased peril generation
honest frigate
yes because fuck balancing
ornate hamlet
it wouldn't be hard to balance
fatshark nerfed pretty much all modifiers to the floor so that they're hardly even much of a modifier unless you're talking power modifiers from certain blessings
and our staves have shit blessings compared to what melee weps like axe gets
honest frigate
even the balancing aside, you're saying the ingame psykers arent real psykers just cause the game isnt 100% accurate with them
Dont be that guy
The game still gets the point across
ornate hamlet
psyker should be able to see all living creatures in complete darkness homie
all psykers can in the lore
even invisible ones
honest frigate
in the lore
ornate hamlet
they detect their aura, they not only sense their minds, but they can also sense beings that are angelic / demonic in nature as well
it would be very easy for fatshark to implement too
honest frigate
oh no the game lacks some lore accurate details about psykers guess the psykers actually arent even psykers anymore
Suppose theyre just normal soldiers then
lol
ornate hamlet
literally just add a faint "glow" to enemies and friendlies, that can be seen at all times, regardless of position - limited only by distance
that only psyker can see
done and done
That sounds annoying
honest frigate
its a gimmick detail 90% people would find irritating and turn it off if possible anyway
having 100% lore accuracy doesnt always make the thing fun if presented in a game
ornate hamlet
I hate when Veteran makes me see glowing stuff through walls
you're ridiculous then
Ridiculously good
that ability is very helpful for spotting specialists and elites
honest frigate
but irritating
ornate hamlet
The only time I've had any issues with that is because the game stops playing audio that it should
forest coral
https://tenor.com/view/dab-anime-gif-10617637
This show was sad
valid imp
Man, the Deimos sword absolutely rules
olive ember
disgust
near wyvern
Man, the Deimos sword absolutely rules
Deimos vs Illisi
Too bad that Illisi user will never catch the running Deimos
leaden thunder
oh yeah pygex what do you run in t2 talents on your fire truama build?
near wyvern
312122
silent trout
leaden thunder
warp unleashed effects dots right
ornate hamlet
Yes
near wyvern
WU increases soulblaze damage and allows for important BB break points.
ornate hamlet
All damage
leaden thunder
near wyvern
WU = I just do more damage now
ornate hamlet
When can we get the shitty coherency aura replaced by Psykinetic's Aura
Imagine 15% CDR on special/elite kill being built in instead of 10% elite damage
near wyvern
All those weapons just a tiny bit away from meeting a break point? You always get +10% from WU no matter what and look at that breakpoint met.
spice veldt
classic zealot L
lunar hollow
i think i know the answer but is this worth picking up from the melk shop
gilded viper
Classic power creep 
gilded viper
Buy a gray and upgrade it, better odd then what milk trying to sell u tbh
lunar hollow
if it had high mobility as well i would take it to gamble on the second blessing
life is pain
gilded viper
piss do illis need Mobilty I don't know
past parrot
I think they need some because I was playing a 50% mobility one and Mutie dodges felt bad
stable silo
tbh warp res on illis is prob the best dump stat cause u wanna quick charge it for warp unleashed
mob would be 2nd
push then dodge back spam charge a few times tehn keep swingin
swap to shredder for tougher stuff and light em up
dawn sphinx
I think. . . That's a quite decent Schween Sword.
viscid cedar
if they can control the speed of the heart, why not just make it stop lol
dawn sphinx
I think. . . That's a quite decent Schween Sword.
(The perk I rerolled was tier 1 block cost efficiency)
spice veldt
shame about superiority
dawn sphinx
The other blessing was unstable power 1.
spice veldt
I'd prob still take t1 block eff to mitigate the force Sword's shitty default block cost even by a little bit
dawn sphinx
I mean. . . I use peril to block.
cyan notch
yea i kinda dont like just have 3 stam on mine
spice veldt
unstable Power would at least be active at 20 peril and higher, and it would push your cleave over 6
cyan notch
but whatever
spice veldt
3 poxwalkers on sweeping lights instead of 2, and 7 poxwalkers instead of 6 for your 1st heavy
unreal dust
Just did Hi-Intensity Shock Gauntlet on Damnation with 2 Psykers and 2 Ogryns. Good lord. I think we would have died horribly if my sibling didn't break shock staff. So many... many... many bursters
karmic copper
Ive been getting some life saving charged void knocks on multiple bursters. Its really fun to do. Never blows them up but they bowling pin real well.
Saved the day 2 dozen times in a damn gauntlet yesterday from it. Feels good having people say thanks for psyker shit
After s9 long playing verm 2, the community, and lots of sienna and conflag n shit, its nice having someone say ty when you cheese a situation for the better
unreal dust
Yar
ornate hamlet
Where that guy that said Autopistol is a waste on Psyker
I've been topping the scoreboard for two days
Come out I just want to talk
unreal dust
Autopistol is niche, but I wouldn't say useless
ornate hamlet
olive ember
I just stay silent when things are going well
twilit flicker
I played a shock gauntlet with lights out in damnation yesterday, it was the most fun I've ever had in a game of Darktide. Lights out and dogs is also super fun.
cyan notch
I've been topping the scoreboard for two days
calm down miss malice
twilit flicker
Controversial opinion? The shredder should stay as it is, ignore the haters!
spice veldt
recon gaming on malice
summer prairie
near wyvern
Malice players flexing with stats
cyan notch
https://streamable.com/o820d5
show mob stats
near wyvern
https://streamable.com/o820d5
80 mobi Deimos dodging is faster than sprinting
summer prairie
it's 80
summer prairie
near wyvern
But it's infinite
unreal dust
https://streamable.com/o820d5
How are you spawning Daemonhosts? Is that a mod?
summer prairie
creature spawner mod
olive ember
Mod
unreal dust
ah
summer prairie
so yeah expecting to see this nerfed a bit
spice veldt
nooo
cyan notch
mine is this at 65
twilit flicker
What do you think they will change? Dodge speed?
summer prairie
just did the same thing but with 20 daemonhosts
cyan notch
probably just change it to same as the other 2
olive ember
Heavy 2
spice veldt
prob change dodge distance
cyan notch
well if 1 cant catch you 20 probably arent either
olive ember
The fact it makes the special irrelevant is a meme
summer prairie
well yeah, if they teleport like that
near wyvern
My psyker Nerf predictions:
- Illisi damage will be lowered
- Deimos Mobility nerf
- WU will be dropped to +5% with +10% from peril but keep the global boost
cyan notch
it doesnt make it irrelevant
valid marsh
You guys think it's worth it?
olive ember
Obscurus dmg buff
spice veldt
200% flak is still very nice
olive ember
Ez
spice veldt
that's a good illisi
cyan notch
obscurus is the same as deimos if u ignore the h2
near wyvern
You guys think it's worth it?
You lucky bastard
cyan notch
just that it has worse movesets
golden tartan
Jesus
spice veldt
change crit damage to something like +maniac and slap on slaughterer
olive ember
That’s like saying the hammer is like the claw if you ignore the special
golden tartan
Deimos with max slaughterer stacks can one shot mutie with H2
cyan notch
thats totally different
obscurus literally has the same damage profiles for its attacks
near wyvern
Deimos with max slaughterer stacks can one shot mutie with H2
Yes it can but how often does this actually happen in the middle of the gameplay
olive ember
Kinda sorta often
unreal dust
You guys think it's worth it?
Absolutely worth it. Yes, the damage is low, but you can make that up with blessings. And it tends to overkill as it is
near wyvern
It's a different thing to be able to do something and then actually be able to do it under realistic conditions
olive ember
I’ve seen a clip of a guy killing two muties with one shot heavies
summer prairie
this dh kiting also works with Illisi side dodges
have to be slightly careful though
spice veldt
but it's easier
near wyvern
The coolest thing with Deimos is you can charge up 2nd heavy as the mutant is running to you and then easily stab the head while you dodge aside
frigid briar
the stabs do make it easy to hit exactly what you want to hit
i.e. the rager's head, not the poxwalker's pancreas
golden tartan
Yes it can but how often does this actually happen in the middle of the gameplay
Honestly max slaughterer is quite common when u are in a horde and you have a mutie barreling down on you
olive ember
Anyone have the clip of the deimos one shotting two mutants
golden tartan
deimos with slaughterer is actually solid at horde clear
spice veldt
classic L for obscurus' 2nd light
olive ember
Need to put a thammer zealot in their place
unreal dust
Anyone have the clip of the deimos one shotting two mutants
I don't think you can cleave the charged attack....
near wyvern
Deimos players when they hear the mutant moan in the distance
olive ember
golden tartan
I don't think you can cleave the charged attack....
You use the H2
Not the special
near wyvern
Special is only for holding that occasional loner in place. Unfortunately there is nothing special in the Deimos special
cyan notch
1 shotting maulers
near wyvern
Wish it was just a damage boost on next attack so you could go special push heavy for omega stab
cyan notch
assassination boss
unreal dust
Special is only for holding that occasional loner in place. Unfortunately there ...
Does anybody else feel like the stun delay and 'stickiness' of the Deimos special is looser than the default FS?
golden tartan
Special is only for holding that occasional loner in place. Unfortunately there ...
Its good vs lone crushers I guess
near wyvern
No idea, perhaps the special scales your movement speed down and since Deimos has more mobi you are a tiny bit more loose?
golden tartan
keyword, lone
near wyvern
Its good vs lone crushers I guess
That's pretty much the only thing to use it for. That and trappers running past you
unreal dust
No idea, perhaps the special scales your movement speed down and since Deimos ha...
I mean like... the mutants and dogs have a higher chance of outranging it during the channel
golden tartan
ye mutants dont get stunned by channel.
unreal dust
So it comes unstuck and no dmg
golden tartan
vs muties you wanna do L1 H2
near wyvern
Anyone else noticed when you do light heavy spam on Deimos of you press sprint your 2nd heavy turns into 1st heavy for some reason after the first 2nd heavy
golden tartan
Anyone else noticed when you do light heavy spam on Deimos of you press sprint y...
yes this is the sprint cancel
When you tap sprint your combo resets
near wyvern
But you can sprint during the first second heavy
olive ember
SMH can’t find the clip of the guy one shotting two muties back to back
near wyvern
So optimal single target is light heavy tap sprint repeat?
olive ember
P much tho tbh it’s the heavy that matters
Like the light is just extra step you need to do to get into the 2nd heavy
near wyvern
Yes but if you don't cancel it you can't sprint forward during the heavy or it will turn into an overhead
cyan notch
i dont think sprint resets your combo
spice veldt
the obscurus had a bug involving it's attack chain and Sprint before right
olive ember
I never used it tbh I just block canceled
ember hornet
did yall know the illisi can one shot bulwarks
spice veldt
that bonus unyielding dmg on specials
ember hornet
I saw 2884 to a reaper head lol
spice veldt
with slaughterer? gawd damn
ember hornet
yeah
unreal dust
I saw 2884 to a reaper head lol
With the illisi? Not the Deimos?
past parrot
wat
spice veldt
illisi deals extra damage to unyielding enemies on its special
ember hornet
got poxwalkers to chase me after building warp charges
killed poxwalkers, waited for bulwark to attack me
1 shot to the head
spice veldt
about 1.75x more dmg to unyielding than normal
unreal dust
illisi deals extra damage to unyielding enemies on its special
Compared to the other versions? That feels weird...
spice veldt
yup
olive ember
The other versions do extra against flak
ember hornet
sliced it's head clean off lol
past parrot
This is why Fat Shark needs to stick with useless perks. They can’t be trusted to think through consequences of stacking buffs. 😅
olive ember
But yeah illisi special is basically anti ogryn tbh
It’s the “meh I’ll slice the horde even with 2 bulwarks in the way” special
unreal dust
But yeah illisi special is basically anti ogryn tbh
That makes no sense... it already has great horde clear...
ember hornet
The other versions do extra against flak
oh no, I only one shot flak ragers
olive ember
Kek
past parrot
I long for the day that all the classes out power creep the Vets leaving them feeling small and weak.
stone pulsar
i feel weak as a vet already lol
olive ember
Except I think on psword slaughterer isn’t nerfed and lists longer
spice veldt
and has power cycler
cyan notch
weaker defences
stone pulsar
tbf, i am using the recon lasgun and i don't have power cycler.
ember hornet
it's a "horde clear" weapon
spice veldt
I couldn't out damage a particularly good psword bolter vet
olive ember
Ah recon lasgun
Yeah that’s like
Prob the weakest gun you can bring apparently
Which sucks but
Stats wise it’s prob the weakest in the game
gaunt topaz
I'm a psyker noob, could someone explain the difference between purgatus and surge staff?
past parrot
I use BrAuto and Slaughter/Power Cycler sword on my vet and it’s pretty wild how good it makes you at so many things
stone pulsar
purge is flamethrower
surge staff is chain lightning which staggers everything (except bosses)
gaunt topaz
So purge is good for horde deletion and surge is more horde control?
ember hornet
surge is high value target control
viral solstice
surge cant control a horde
ember hornet
not horde
past parrot
So purge is good for horde deletion and surge is more horde control?
Surge has limited targets to hit
olive ember
One is horde deletion the other is special control
stone pulsar
surge staff hits up to 5 targets and it deals more damage to armoured enemies. it deals...low damage to unarmoured and infested.
gaunt topaz
ah thanks!
past parrot
I think surge would be a lot better if it prioritized elites and shooters (or maybe it does and I’m bad)
stone pulsar
you need 2-3 full charges to kill the chaff.
spice veldt
hits more than 5 but the targeting is very random
stone pulsar
it stuns even mutants, and bursters though. very useful.
cyan notch
well well well
past parrot
it stuns even mutants, and bursters though. very useful.
Not just stuns bursters, pushes them back 🙂
olive ember
well well well
How will hadron brick your weapon this time
past parrot
well well well
Hadron: “I’m about to ruin this man’s whole career”
olive ember
Will you get a Skaleek moment
stone pulsar
a pack of crushers, ragers and bulwarks? surge staff can handle that.
grizzled jasper
I couldn't out damage a particularly good psword bolter vet
If you want to beat bolter vet just take all the ammo 
cyan notch
idk i have no plasteel so ill have to do a run or two
olive ember
If you want to beat bolter vet just take all the ammo <:ogryn_pathetic:108335969...
Run a purge with wildfire to pad your damage stats on them poxwalkers
spice veldt
If you want to beat bolter vet just take all the ammo <:ogryn_pathetic:108335969...
the true purpose of the recon lasguns
unreal dust
I'm a psyker noob, could someone explain the difference between purgatus and sur...
Its also important to note that Surge Staff -will- penetrate through Bulwark shields. It also does bonus Damage to Carapace (like crushers or scabs)
stone pulsar
i'm not too familiar with the voidstrike staff. is it like sienna's fireball staff?
olive ember
It’s kinda unique iirc