psyker-class

[runic hornet]

If it's in range, you flame it, it dies, your pressing concern is anything you can't immediately flame

[olive ember]

also all the way back to spawn sounds cool until you realize it eventually becomes 4 stacks, which rly isn't much unless you only care about killing poxwalkers

which is like

the lowest of lows on the priority list tbh

[runic hornet]

it's a green circle farmer

that's really about all the utility you get out of it

i've tried it
it feels exactly the same as purgatus, except weaker, probably
You can only hold one weapon at a time
in any situation with horde, why is that not your purgatus

[digital loom]

running 65% block efficiency atm

feels nice

[cyan portal]

My concern is surviving solo on hi damn to clutch a dead team. Burning everything while you deal with close threats with fs makes that much easier. You don't need to decide between melee to block and delete orgyn and flaming stuff, they both happen.

[runic hornet]

meanwhile, on a weapon like trauma where you get moments of outright downtime because you just did a pieplate and everyone is on the floor, so you illisi swap and stab the mauler

on a purgatus you'd just flame the mauler

and everyone already has >4 burn stacks on them anyway

[digital loom]

trauma is best staff

anyone who thinks otherwise just hasn't awakened to the truth yet

[runic hornet]

I mean really that's just it
I have exactly zero urge to play purgatus
When I can play blazing spirit trauma

[cyan notch]

i dont think its that big a deal running it or not

[digital loom]

also, deimos isn't that bad if you're used to say, achlys axe

its basically same thing just without need for brutal momentum

[cyan notch]

wdym isnt that bad

yea illisi also isnt that bad

[runic hornet]

I can meme on elites and suppress rifles with trauma
And I get massive burn potential with wildfire boosted by illisi

What does purgatus do? I chop off the ability to meme on elites and deal with distant rifle squads

[digital loom]

i'd probably use illisi if i was using a voidstrike or something

[runic hornet]

and I'm a little better at burning targets up close

[cyan notch]

u can deal with distant rifle squads with f

[runic hornet]

that's not THAT distant

staff balls are goated

they're basically free

you can shoot them "just in case"

as long as you're conscious about not overpulling (lol, throneside)

losing staff LMB balls and replacing them with the purgatus hot hands is a huge nerf

[cold geode]

489 deimos from the emp, lets see how bad it is

not sure which one to take from it hmmm

[timber bolt]

Which should I upgrade

Do I want low warp resistance?

[cold geode]

if you are going to use the peril based power blessing

[faint sigil]

You do if you're running high peril = damage and quelling = toughness

[timber bolt]

I wanna run this with flame staff

[cold geode]

unstable power i believe it is

[timber bolt]

These are my feats

[runic hornet]

low warp resistance is a buff

on illisi

You want to build as much perils as possible when spamming special

[timber bolt]

It’s a Deimos

[runic hornet]

same difference

[timber bolt]

Okie

[runic hornet]

perils passively falls off so fast

that if you are swording things

you want it high, not low

[timber bolt]

So I’ll upgrade the one with low resistance m

Are my feats okay?

Sorry for the questions but I really appreciate how helpful y’all are

: )

Is this any good?

[runic hornet]

meh/10 blessings

the ones you want are slaughterer+unstable power or whatever the +damage for perils one is

executor falls off all the time because you have to keep your chain, seemingly

shred is the same

[ember hornet]

can confirm Illisi + autopistol is absolutely busted

[runic hornet]

isn't it

or well

the autopistol, period

[devout moon]

Rate this Illisi force sword I just gotr

[ember hornet]

I'm primarily meleeing

[ember hornet]

just running ahead of all the zealots now lol

[ember hornet]

9/10

just upgrade one of those blessings

[devout moon]

That's the highest level of slaughterer I have

[ember hornet]

I'd say t4 unstable is fine too

8% more power total

T4 slaughterer is 12%

[devout moon]

I've only got t3 unstable

[ember hornet]

you are always at high peril with it

some people might suggest another blessing like deflector assuming they take it away

but I'm digging unstable + slaughterer

quietitude is super good with it too being at high peril all the time

and quicken is super fun for more melee

like wow this class has some choices and really strong stuff now

[stable silo]

Become the ascendant unleashes blazing wildfire shred force psyker

[leaden pier]

should i grab this compared to what i am normally running?

[cyan notch]

more cloud is pretty good

id grab it

[stable silo]

I mean its a straight up upgrade if you use purg staff go for it

Only diff is u wont be able to spam as long but you quel super fast so ur generating more toughness which is nice anyway

[timber bolt]

What feats should I use?

[leaden pier]

should i reroll the carapace then?

the perk i mean

[north cradle]

I'd personally reroll to Infested

I dunno about everyone else

Also yes, Damage is the Purgatus dump stat

More Cloud, more Burn

[leaden pier]

nah gonna roll for crit chance to get more stacks of burn

[north cradle]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

[leaden pier]

yeah imma probably keep the 20% against unarmored to deal with dregs faster

most carapace enemies i would just bb or use my fs for

[cyan notch]

not only that u do 2 damage to carapace with purg

[north cradle]

You do 2 damage to anything with Purgatus anyway, just build more stacks

[cyan notch]

stacks do 2 damage to carapace

[pearl lion]

The duality of psyker

[leaden pier]

Is there any reason to use the obsucrus fs over the other ones?

Over the new ones I mean

[cyan notch]

no

[pearl lion]

Ive not tried the lunge one but the illisi is super good

The only thing it has going for it is the special if you need it at that moment

But BB does basically the same thing

And when you take in to account the animation on hit before it takes effect, yeah, doubly so

[cyan notch]

special does more than bb

[leaden pier]

I've been using the deimos and it's been performing better in most situations compared to the obsucus, whether it's horde clear or single target

[cyan notch]

yes deimos just power creeps obscurus

[rare mesa]

look at this psyker go

[cyan notch]

the power of infinite dodges

[ornate hamlet]

i shitte thou not

you can spam dodge a circle around the host

and never get hit

[worn heath]

obscurus is the kantrael mk 1a of force swords

[pearl lion]

Hm which drip

[kind jay]

2nd is vastly and objectively better

[pearl lion]

Thats the one ive been using for awhile

Just got the penance top so was looking for a getup that it works with

[restive slate]

2nd if you like burying your face in metal while loading in the Valkyrie haha

[pearl lion]

this is the way

[gaunt stone]

thoughts on wildfire?

I feel like it is interesting

[restive slate]

Great on Purgatus

It's good but not OP strong, which is just right imo

[safe crystal]

Funnily enough, its not great on purgatus, because everything will have more stacks than wildfire can spread around. Battery + AB is still way stronger

Its better on something like blaze nexus trauma

[restive slate]

Oh yea I heard about that build, haven't tried it yet

Blaze Trauma or Blaze Void better?

[safe crystal]

Both work, but trauma is a better base for it because of way higher AoE

[leaden pier]

i like wildfire on my gun psyker build

[restive slate]

If a Voidstrike goes through a horde, will the Soulblaze stack?

[lethal folio]

I think barrel damage is being scaled by psyker passives, I just took 146 damage from a yellow barrel.

[ornate hamlet]

new barrel meta

[safe crystal]

Iirc, when a voidstrike with blaze crits, it applies stacks both on the direct hit and the explosion. I havent actually tried this myself, though, so i'd recommend testing it before going all in on it

[dusky bear]

trauma has a hilariously large outer aoe

it only does 3 damage. but it can still apply blazing soul

[digital loom]

i run focused channeling/rending shockwave on my trauma

i think rending shockwave could make blaze do more damage?

on armored?

[dusky bear]

could, but youd sacrifice extra critch chance for it

[digital loom]

yeah i guess as a meme it would be pretty good

trauma blaze

but its outside of my playstyle

[dusky bear]

ive been trying to get it forever

but melks a bitch and only gives me axes and autoguns

it may be a meme build, but i want to set entire rooms on fire with splodys

[digital loom]

i've been farming deimos swords so i couldnt attempt now

this is the best one i have so far

i've had better modifier rolls but hadron keeps ruining them

[restive slate]

Deimos doesn't even need to charge tbh

[digital loom]

but its fun

[restive slate]

Poking is fun

[digital loom]

it also has niches

like stunlocking

you can grab dogs out of the air with the charged attack

[restive slate]

Charge light right?

[digital loom]

yea

[restive slate]

Yea range of that is ridiculous

[digital loom]

the funniest one i had was my character did a full 360 and looked up with the dog attached and then it brain bursted and flew like a rocket into the air and across the room

[restive slate]

Pox Hounds, to infinity and beyond

[digital loom]

the way the game makes you spaz out when you hook dogs is the most satisfying part

[restive slate]

Imagine third person view, Psyker shaking head violently when charge attacking the dog

[kindred anchor]

do psyker force swords have unlimited dodges

[cyan notch]

yes

[dusky bear]

i got t4 warpnexus for trauma. just need a good roll on a staff with t4 blazing soul

[timber bolt]

I’m running Deimos pergatus what feats should I be going for?

[safe crystal]

121112 is a ok for purg. You can change the last perk to KB if you want, and warp unleashed is also a pretty good choice on 2nd row for extra spicy stabs and burn damage. Kinetic deflection on 4th row makes you very safe in melee, but you can change that for toughness damage reduction if you feel like you'd rather not get fucked by ranged enemies. you will still get fucked by them

[hybrid solstice]

the ranged toughness damage reduction from that feat feels completely meaningless to be honest

[ornate hamlet]

force sword daemonhost solo

[safe crystal]

Its all damage reduction, there is no ranged damage reduction coded into the game

[ornate hamlet]

troll the damnation team by wasting 5 minutes of their time and giving yourself carpal tunnel

[hybrid solstice]

Weird. Well at any rate it doesnt feel like it helps against shooters much if at all

[ornate hamlet]

honestly its better for me to rely on le evasivé maneuvre

[spice veldt]

the effect is ultimately a bit minor and hard to tell

but I take it nevertheless since I don't get much mileage out of kinetic deflection anyways

[hybrid solstice]

Yeah big time

[safe crystal]

Yep, i would take peril blocking over it any day but some people prefer it

[ornate hamlet]

its kinda like wounds, where theyre nice to have but the goal would be to play in a way you wont need them

[hybrid solstice]

right yeah you dont have to manage or pay attention to it or anything it's theoretically free DR

[ornate hamlet]

granted the same could be said for deflection since its basically extra stamina to do shield ogryn

[hybrid solstice]

still though

[spice veldt]

I like to literally run into ranged enemies, so I prefer the toughness dmg reduction

[ornate hamlet]

[hybrid solstice]

deflection has synergy with deflector though, it's not just free block stamina, but ranged block stamina too

[ornate hamlet]

the virgin sniper vs the chad "if i walk into them, they stop shooting"

[spice veldt]

not that it matters too much if you're dodge-sliding

another reason that I prefer kinetic shield over a toughness curio is that it increases the effectiveness of toughness per point

so toughness regeneration is also effectively better

[hybrid solstice]

Yeah i dont run any toughness on my curios

[spice veldt]

i stack two toughness curios now and have two +toughness perks on them

i think I have 142 max toughness

good enough for me to monkey around without having to tap into my health most of the time

[hybrid solstice]

even with bis max possible toughness in every possible slot you end up with like 150 or 60 ish toughness, just doesnt feel like a worthy investment to me

[spice veldt]

it's worthwhile to me because it means that I need to kill fewer enemies to get back to full toughness after taking a hit, and it means that I regenerate more flat toughness

ranged enemies really are the one thing that I despise, and you usually have cover to retreat back to

and if I need to trade with enemies without having any cover, then I rely on the hope that I regenerate more toughness than I lose it

[hybrid solstice]

for me toughness regen curio perks + toughness regen on warp charge already deadlifts toughness recovery

[spice veldt]

and I'm of the belief the psyker toughness regeneration feats are great, and this is especially more true after the quelling buffs

I don't stay near my team too often enough to benefit from coherency regen

and it stops whenever an enemy is near you anyways

toughness regenerates, so I believe it to be more worthwhile than health especially since Quietude makes it so that you are able to regenerate toughness at any moment

unlike other classes which tend to attach a stricter condition to their toughness feats

[hybrid solstice]

I'm using just like caveman bullet point logic to prioritize, which goes like this
toughness:
-smaller base value
-curio perks give smaller percentile increases
-technically infinite, as it regenerates
Health
-higher base value
-curio perks give higher percentile increases
-finite and subject to chip damage and corruption mechanics

[spice veldt]

i used to run one more hp curio until I wanted to put all my cards into DPS checking enemies (without the risk of taking warp absorption)

[hybrid solstice]

well if it works it works lel

[past parrot]

oh shiit its here, what staff for this? don't say autopistol

[shut prairie]

Heavy Laspistol, even better.

[olive ember]

just run surge

ez pz

[ornate hamlet]

you got some really nice shit tbh

the first one works with the 4% warp charge to make anyone in coherence give you toughness randomly

the second allows staff spamming

[kind jay]

how exactly does tough regen work for psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

the third allows force sword special spamming

it should work the same as the rest, i think

buddies give regen and you got the level 5 talents

first is 30% over 5s on warp charge gain, second is 10% on warp damage kill and third is something something per 10% peril quelled actively or passively

[spice veldt]

you get as toughness% half of the peril% that you quelled

[quasi pier]

Toughness curios make the 30% over 5 sec feat better

Interesting

Never thought of that

[spice veldt]

toughness regen speed shouldn't affect toughness regen feats

[quasi pier]

I meant having 150 toughness makes the 30% feat up to 10 toughness a second per warp charge gain

[spice veldt]

ah actually +toughness

[copper torrent]

Does Quicken's 2 warp charges per warp charge affect Essence Harvest?

[spice veldt]

yeah 150 toughness would be 9 toughness per second

essence harvest doesn't stack; getting a warp charge only refreshes its duration

[quasi pier]

Yea I just fudged the math

And that rate is pretty respectable. On par with quietude quelling with staff, but slightly more passive

[spice veldt]

more max toughness also benefits quietude

[quasi pier]

Don't think it's worth giving up the extra health though, and quietude feels more controlable

Does it?

[spice veldt]

yeah, since all toughness regen feats are relative/percentage-based

[quasi pier]

50% of 100 peril is still just 50 toughness gained

[spice veldt]

you get 50% toughness back for 100% peril quelled, not 50 toughness

e.g., if you have 150 max toughness, you'll recover 75 toughness when quelling from 100% peril

coherency regeneration is the only flat source of toughness iirc

[quasi pier]

Ok ok I see

And toughness regen on curios only affects coherence regen?

[spice veldt]

yup

it affects the rate and delay of coherency regen

[cyan notch]

90% toughness regen speed is good enough for me i rather have health for when i get sniped/shotgunned/corrupted/chipped by ranged

[spice veldt]

coherency regen gives 2.5/3.75/5 toughness per 2/3/4 players in coherency

[quasi pier]

Yea I also prefer health

I would really like replace one health with a +Stam curio with sprint efficiency, Stam regen, and block efficiency

[spice veldt]

scab shooters (green eyes) will demolish your health anyways once your toughness gets peeled, so I figure that toughness is better anyways

[quasi pier]

I got shit on in reddit for running those curio perks, but I like being mobile

[spice veldt]

those perks are great for events where you have to run around

relay station midevent, ammo raid finale

eh well ammo raid finale is fairly linear

I still like it for running around like a monkey

and getting flamed for running ahead of my team

[quasi pier]

Yea you can always just incremently toss the rods if you're in a slog

[spice veldt]

oh and hab dreyko

[quasi pier]

I think those perks are just good for evading hits in general. Although now that I'm using force sword again infinite dodges makes the sprinting in a fight less good

[spice veldt]

esp with sliding

I took off sprint efficiency in exchange for +toughness, and I'm really feeling the lack of toughness stamina

running to save a teammate and I'm at 0 stamina so I can't immediately revive them with enemies near by

running to try to steal a kill but then running out of stamina like an idiot

[cyan notch]

get hit to regen stamina

[spice veldt]

200iq

too bad you get staggered for a solid second when hit at max toughness

[quasi pier]

Hell yea, I love slide charging a group of shooters and making them look like stormtroopers

[cyan notch]

i thought they fixed that

i didnt notice the hitstun recently

[spice veldt]

i'm 70% sure that happened to me post-patch

[cyan notch]

maybe its cuz i have focused channeling on everything

[olive ember]

bruhhhh

[spice veldt]

yeah just watched over footage of me getting stunned for a hot second from a single melee hit at max toughness

[robust relic]

reroll unyielding to flak and put slaughter on it and salvageable?

[quasi pier]

"Is it salvagable" "Put slaughterer on it" yes.

[robust relic]

haha

[quasi pier]

You'll probably want to get another at some point anyway but it's worth consecrating it again anyways for the chance of t4 blessing and it's definitely good enough to use

[primal plume]

Surge staff is completely useless during hordes

It just gets caught on pox walkers and just lets specials through

honestly the worst staff in the game

[olive ember]

welp had a fun game of triple mutie with horde spawns

along with invisilaser snipers again

shot the other psyker tho

the guy didn't have sniper resistance

big rip

[quasi pier]

I mean ya it's not a horde weapon

But I wouldn't say useless

Also good thing we just got one of the best horde melee weapons in the game

[near wyvern]

80% mobility DFS is funny, you can move faster with the dodges than a veteran can sprint.

[olive ember]

look at this psyker slander in vet chat

[kind jay]

i mean

when your brain is so small what else can you do

[cyan notch]

damn thats crazy

if only i cared what vet chat had to say

[olive ember]

smh gotta open your horizons

or something

[velvet crescent]

please don't hurt me

i have a family

[quasi pier]

Well yea, they're mad they have to press a button to get their sword har- charged, and we just have to lovingly air stroke ours

[velvet crescent]

i use staff and keep forgetting i have a sword that can charge until i see the crusher double over

and then i get sad

[quasi pier]

Well you know what they say, if you don't use it you lose it 🤷

[velvet crescent]

i usually use brain burst

[olive ember]

eh psyker is versatile like that

so many ways to kill a crusher

and I manage to choose the worst way every time

[velvet crescent]

i spam brain burst on bosses too

[safe crystal]

I choose perils of the warp explodes

[velvet crescent]

have absolutely no idea if i should use that or force sword

@olive ember actually can i dm you something rq, its a shitpost from darktide text chat one mission when i was playing as vet

[cyan notch]

plogryn you should definitely melee it

[digital loom]

what the fuck hadron

[cyan notch]

ruined

[robust relic]

rough tier 2s

[olive ember]

bricked

[digital loom]

cant believe hadron is the fergus of darktide

[olive ember]

thank hadron

also i love shitposts so sure

tho i'm always offline so yea

🤔 okay thats a lie

I'm always invisible kek

[robust relic]

you forgot to tip hadron 30 plasteel I bet

[olive ember]

fuck her tips

[ornate hamlet]

laughs in lightning shooting from my hands

[olive ember]

shes running a fucking scam

[restive slate]

Ara ara~

[quasi pier]

I mean let's be honest, this whole inquisitor deal is probably a scam to have us rejects mining plasteel and diamantine as they resell the dead's weapons to the living

[primal plume]

Imo if a staff cant clear hordes its useless 90% of the time

what fucks people isnt specials alone

its horde +specials

if all youre doing is tasing 6 enemies out of like 30

thats a bad weapon

[olive ember]

I mean

literally every class can clear hordes tho

[quasi pier]

Yea if you take bromentum axe or illisi you don't need a staff to clear hordes

Surge can be very effective, it's just not doing what you want your staff to do and that's ok

[kind jay]

just use what you like

[olive ember]

recon las psyker?

[robust relic]

win far more often with surge than purg so, seems legit to me

[olive ember]

wooo

validated

[kind jay]

yeah even recon

[robust relic]

if you are in full groups, maybe, but in pugs is extraordinarily common that everyone is taking random damage they shouldn't, and when I tase those 6 guys they take less hits and we win more

[vale creek]

hi guys you still think psyker is weak?

[olive ember]

Is it as strong as vet?

No? Yes it’s still weak AF

Very weak

Need more buffs

[still hearth]

Psyker is OP and should be nerfed

[kind jay]

i love surge so much

[still hearth]

[digital loom]

oh my god she's fucking doing it again

[rose lily]

i'm going for void (ranged) / illisi (melee horde clear)
and i'm gonna replace one of these blessings with a T3 deflector

which of these 2 blessings is more valuable to keep?

[olive ember]

Nope psyker still very weak

[digital loom]

???

[olive ember]

It needs lots more buffs

[vale creek]

idk butt i feel really good with psyker stronger than vet

[olive ember]

Literally bricking your weapons lmao

[still hearth]

Lmao

Hadron hates you

What did you do to her

[olive ember]

They are both bad on the illisi, also I’d strongly recommend taking slaughterer it’s like the one blessing needed on every FS

[still hearth]

Don't use Deflector atm

[olive ember]

If I had to choose I guess keep executor

[rose lily]

why not?

[still hearth]

It has a built in deflector

[olive ember]

Cuz new FS are bugged and have deflector built in

[still hearth]

Due to a "bug"

[olive ember]

Wouldn’t count on having built in deflector but for now yeah

[vale creek]

thats why i got deflector perk

[rose lily]

oh... but eventually they'll find the bug, take it out, and then i should have put deflector on it

[still hearth]

No reason not to enjoy it while it lasts

[vale creek]

planning on long

[still hearth]

Sure, if you like deflector that much

I think it's very overkill

[olive ember]

I’d say by then you would hopefully have found a new force sword that has slaughterer

[timber bolt]

God I’m so bad with Psyker

[olive ember]

I’m bad with every class

[timber bolt]

Lol

I go down so quickly. Takes sooooo much damage

[olive ember]

But yeah my recon las shreds on malice so

Fun times

[still hearth]

Recon power blessings whem

Give it the same blessings as autopistol

[cyan notch]

deflector good

[weak sapphire]

Any advice how to maintain maximum warp charges for at least 300s?

Just go around and headburst?

[olive ember]

Run stuff like kinetic flayer and communion, then run KB and honestly just play normally

[still hearth]

Just BB all the time yes

[olive ember]

On higher difficulties horde events with spawn where you will maintain stacks naturally for 300 seconds

[summer prairie]

when moving around, sprint slide forward while BBing and wildly swinging your cursor

[olive ember]

If you wanna be kinda self conscious about it then yeah, use KB and then BB targets to refresh stacks if about to drop

But how I did it was I waited for a horde before even trying tbh, once a horde event started was when I actually started giving af about stack count

[weak sapphire]

Fok me sideways. I must be doing something wrong, Only playing damnation all the time but using PW to often I suppose. To get out of hairy situations.

[olive ember]

Which one you running?

If you wanna go for achieve make sure you are using kinetic barrage

[weak sapphire]

using 3/3/1/1/2/2

Homecooked.

[olive ember]

Yeah no don’t use ascendant blaze

[safe crystal]

Well, theres your problem. You dump your warp charges with AB

[olive ember]

^^

[weak sapphire]

😄

Also.. Quietude is amazing. I dont understand why I have not used it earlier. Refilling toughness is amazing.

But yeah ill use something else for my penance, thanks for the info 🙂

[vale creek]

im still against meta and thinking the random bb and fast bb more useful than the flaming shout

[weak sapphire]

I just want to burn everything

😄

[velvet crescent]

I use it all the time with staff and force sword

great "get back in fight quicker" button

[weak sapphire]

yeah 😄

[velvet crescent]

just dont do it while in a fight cause you get outdpsed, but getting back into a fight? Hell yeah

[safe crystal]

Its definitely not the best for every staff. Purg gets great use out of it, due to it passively generating warp charges and being able to take out ranged enemies outside of its range

[velvet crescent]

Psyker also was actually a bit easier than I expected to learn

[weak sapphire]

What about 3/3/3/1/3/3 then for my warppenance?

[velvet crescent]

Concepts wise it's the same

[kind jay]

kb is clutch af. i use it with the cd reduction and just machine gun bb a room of specials to death

[velvet crescent]

I just use the sniper rifle in my brain instead of the sniper rifle in my hands

[honest frigate]

Chad

[velvet crescent]

i've been having fun with every class

with psyker it's less the gameplay and more the fact that i am making people go boom with my thronedamn brain

[weak sapphire]

I like to play as support with my psyker. Staying behind and poofing stuff coming up from behind. Purge some hordes with flames and doing a bit of bb sniping 😄

Like a warm older uncle.

[honest frigate]

That is a interesting comparison

[weak sapphire]

Which the other players can sit in my lap and talk about their day.

[vale creek]

exactly

[velvet crescent]

Also

One massive qol improvement over Vet is the existence of the Surge staff

Being able to tell that one poxburster "fuck off" is great

[honest frigate]

I dislike Surge because only thing its good at is stunning enemies, aka its purely a utility tool

Not fun to use to me

[velvet crescent]

true that

Trauma is very nice

[stone quest]

Also it is dogshit against flesh

[kind jay]

but it does damage?

[honest frigate]

Trauma is sweet

[stone quest]

Surge Staff is good vs. Armour, but anything flesh makes it do basically fuck and all.

[honest frigate]

Compared to purgatus and all other staves, surge is by far the weakest

[velvet crescent]

I use Trauma as a ghetto grenade launcher against hordes, I left click against isolated targets

[kind jay]

i use illy anyways

[honest frigate]

I use illisi with purg because fuck that horde in particular

Most fun combo

[robust relic]

trauma has the very large negative that it causes things to get knocked behind the group

[velvet crescent]

one of my personal goals one day is to knock a crusher off a bridge with trauma or ult

[kind jay]

it doesnt have ANY knockback at all, besides poxbursters (which is good)

[honest frigate]

If only surge had like a perk or just a general stat upgrade that would allow it to have more chained hits

Like you only affect 5 enemies at a time

[kind jay]

thats fine if youre using it to kill specials

[velvet crescent]

damn okay

[honest frigate]

Booo..

[velvet crescent]

one time as ogryn i used the kickback to shoot a crusher off a ledge to his death

it was great

[kind jay]

Lord Comcast hit me with a net burst at the end of a t5 run

guess ill die

[honest frigate]

your fate is sealed

[kind jay]

i did it guys im finally a psyker in real life

or at least treated like one

[timber bolt]

Anyone have a good ilisi build,

[kind jay]

i predict someone will say slaughterer

and probably anything of your choice

[honest frigate]

slaughterer is good on all forceswords

[timber bolt]

I mean like feats as well

[velvet crescent]

stay right where you are

you're getting a visit to the emperor himself

: )

[timber bolt]

Wanna do melee Psyker

[honest frigate]

I use unstable power with slaughterer

[hybrid solstice]

If charging up the secondary actually increased the amount of targets, it'd be worth using for once

[honest frigate]

On illlis

[kind jay]

i see this as an absolute win!

[velvet crescent]

well of course, it's the master of mankind!

; )

[honest frigate]

So true

[kind jay]

master of mankind is pretty good. but, not quite as good as master of the universe

but i dont think He Man is gonna absorb me into his brain anytime soon

[honest frigate]

The biomancer lighting actually appears so weak when you compare it to all the other staff powers

Its like youre just tickling the targets with it

Instead of boiling their own blood

[robust relic]

never used void, how important is blast radius?

[summer prairie]

it's not

[robust relic]

whats it even do? I didnt think void even had a radius?

[honest frigate]

I think the blast radius for void is the hitbox of the ball you shoot

[safe crystal]

The ball hitting things has a cone of damage behind the target. It doesnt do too much damage, but it applies all on-hit effects

[timber bolt]

Does the force sword count towards essence Harvest

[honest frigate]

Whats essence harvest again

[timber bolt]

It’s the gray Whenevr your kill an enemy with a warp attack regen 10% toughness

Feat*

Also, what should my curios be?

[robust relic]

Interesting, what should I look for then on void? ideally flak/maniac + transfer/nexus?

[safe crystal]

Unarmoured + flak, transfer + flurry

[robust relic]

Doesnt charged attack already kill unarmored?

[safe crystal]

Shotgunners live,unless you use warp unleashed and are at high peril

Which you shouldnt be with transfer

[robust relic]

ah I see, makes sense

[quasi pier]

I saw someone say executor is bad on illisi.. wut?

[safe crystal]

Executor was the chained weak spot hits? Using special resets it

Its not bad, but it limits your special usage

[quasi pier]

Counterpoint, I only use special attack on specials and swinging into a horde stacks executor back up extremely quickly

[safe crystal]

Yep, thats fine. Like i said, it just limits your special usage. Its not bad

It has a good moveset for light spamming to stack up

[quasi pier]

I guess I'm wondering not bad as opposed to what

Unstable power forces you to use special more than ideal to try to upkeep power

[near wyvern]

Normally it doesn't matter. If you go for spirit nexus you want it maxed, but flurry peril is BiS

[safe crystal]

Not bad as in its not precog

Everything else works on illisi tbh

[quasi pier]

True, I just saw someone say it was bad, but imo slaughter + executor is the ideal

[near wyvern]

When the projectile hits a target it cannot pass through it will explode dealing minor AOE damage but quite a lot of supression.

Normally you don't really care about it as the damage is rather low but if you want to meme with spirit nexus + wildfire it's the most important thing. The blast radius is always a constant on void regardless of your charge level. With Blazing Spirit, void applies the effect on the projectile and the explosion making anything that got hit by the projectile + explosion (final target it cannot cleave through) instantly get twice the effect of Blazing Spirit.

Unfortunately Blazing Spirit on staves has a hidden max cap of 6 stacks so it's still garbage single target damage.

[dusky bear]

holy fuck

just malice high intensity gauntlet felt like i was taking an unlubed cheese grater. i cant even imagine what damnation high intensity gauntlet will be like

[wet belfry]

Fun

[idle bay]

The Excessive Amount of FUN

[safe crystal]

Hi5 w/gloves is the most fun i've had in this game in a while

Its a shame its so rare

[wet belfry]

We still memed pretty hard on level 5 gaunlet

[idle bay]

Though it's forbidden pleasure for me - to much FUN combined with stress can kill me.

[dusky bear]

[wet belfry]

High intensity damnation gaunlet might be enough to actually consider bringing the best builds to win the match.

[dusky bear]

damn yall are on a level i cant even see yet apparently

[wet belfry]

Just played for too many hours.

[idle bay]

Just play the game and enjoy it - everything will come to you soon enough 🙂

[dusky bear]

6 stacks is enough to kill most specs when paird with the explosion of the projectile. but yeah that hidden cap is dissapointing to learn about

[dusky bear]

im trying to but melk is being a big uh oh stinky. dude never gives me shit except axes and auto guns

[idle bay]

I was whining about lack of materials and bad RNG to get new hammer for testing. Next day Melk gave me nealy perfect one.

Still meh though... i like old one more'

[safe crystal]

Milk hasnt given me anything but goddamn power cycler PS's, fuck that weapon

[dusky bear]

im currently trying to get a blazing soul 4 staff. preferably a trauma or void strike. I have warp nexus 4 on trauma, so id prefer that more than anything

[summer prairie]

there's only a t3 version

[idle bay]

Power Cycler is a myth it does not exists, all screnshots are fake 🙂 That what i'm talking to myself about it, after spending 10k plasteel and checking Melk daily

[safe crystal]

Surely

[idle bay]

I does not exists in RNG seed for my Vet 🙂

[safe crystal]

I wish my psyker had my vet's luck

[dusky bear]

wait really? theres only t3 blazing soul?

[idle bay]

At this point all attack patterns of Power Sword (with pressing special at right moments) is a Muscle Memory. And Power Cycler will mess it for me for sure 🙂

[wise pecan]

I do find it funny that power sword has a straight up holy grail of blessings that every vet quests for and knows is the best

[summer prairie]

for staves yes

[dusky bear]

this makes me sad

[wet belfry]

What is the dump stat for trauma, furthermore what are the best blessings for it?

[wise pecan]

I think, since the buffs, quell speed is generally considered the dump stat for staves?

[wet belfry]

Ye it probably will be

I will run warp unleashed with it.

[shadow quartz]

Is it just me or the fireball staff a bit underpowered?

[restive slate]

Force sword has it's holy grail blessings too

The flamethrower staff?

[pale basalt]

Void? Nah positioning is just more important

[honest frigate]

Voidstrike is good

All the staves are actually good at something ngl

[restive slate]

Voidstrike more of a crowd weapon while purgatus deals with crowds, trauma deals with crowds and surge deals with crowds... Hmm.

[pale basalt]

Void is my go too now that i got the illest sword for close quarter clearing

[restive slate]

I like how Illisi sword got autocorrected to "illest"

[pale basalt]

Naw that was on purpise lol

[restive slate]

Purpisefully I see hahaha

[honest frigate]

Voidstrike is like trauma except youre meant to stay a little further away from hordes for your own safety, but the increase level of control you have over where the blast will occur is nice

[pale basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dolphin-funny-animals-gif-23061630

[honest frigate]

Trauma just throws everyone around even when not fully charged

Purgatus is good at erasing hordes overall

Just spam it in a 360 degree around yourself and youre fine

lol

[restive slate]

I personally enjoy Trauma now more than Void

[pale basalt]

Yeah void does get boring because you wind up spamming lanes

But it is effective

[restive slate]

Trauma knocking those Bulwarks and Ragers giving space is quite the breather needed

Coupled with Rending Shockwave it becomes an excellent support weapon

[velvet crescent]

purgatus is the brain flamer staff right

[honest frigate]

yes

[velvet crescent]

okay. I think purgatus might be a solid pick because brain burst exists anyways

[ornate hamlet]

Purg is good at erasing everything it touches (except Crushers)

[restive slate]

I got 5 build slots and I make use of all staves for variety in playstyles. No 5 is gun Psyker haha

[pale basalt]

My staff^

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[pale basalt]

Columnus is my bae

Its the perfect tickle gun for proccing headpop

[restive slate]

With a really good autopistol I rolled recently, Gun Psyker has become one of my more fun playstyles

[pale basalt]

Illisi was a gamechanger for gunpsyking

Now i still have plenty of clear

[ornate hamlet]

Shredder is just stupid

[restive slate]

Free powersword with unlimited dodges

[velvet crescent]

okay shitposting in zealot chat aside
im gearing up for heresy missions. I have a couple under my belt as vet but as psyker what do you fellas run

[ornate hamlet]

I have Pinning Fire 3

And no Blaze Away

And its just

Destroying everything

[restive slate]

Pinning 3 and Blaze 3, I feel unstoppable

[ornate hamlet]

Blaze only has one tier so

But yeah Pinning 3 is still insane.

Its so dumb how this is allowed

But also apparently the slug shotgun can 4 shot bosses

[restive slate]

The Beast?

[dusky bear]

wait so what are all the t4 blessings for staff?

[ornate hamlet]

Depends on the staff

Nexus and Flurry is on all staves T4

I think Terrifying is also on all staves up to T4

Then Rending Shockwave for Trauma is up to T4 too I think

[restive slate]

I still have no idea how to utilize Terrifying Barrage

[ornate hamlet]

You don't.

Sometimes it procs, most of the time it procs on an enemy that is immune to suppression anyway

So it does nothing

[restive slate]

It's terrifying but not for the enemy but to us as we have to reroll

[ornate hamlet]

It would be great if it ignored suppression immunity

[quasi pier]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-normal-staff-so-ok-gif-18790078

[weak sapphire]

Warp nexus or barrage on purgestaff

go!

[ornate hamlet]

You never go Terrifying Barrage

So

There you go

[weak sapphire]

Any advice if I should put something else than wapr nexus?

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus mostly benefits from Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry

You can use Focus Channeling to not be cancelled

[restive slate]

Focus Channeling is a QoL thing

[ornate hamlet]

Since the damage difference isn't massive even if you miss out on Nexus/Flurry, I think.

[restive slate]

I need Focus Channeling on Twitter then hehe

[weak sapphire]

halp

Should I change anything on that staff?

[ornate hamlet]

Locking in Carapace is sad

Upgrade Warp Nexus when you can

You're 1% from max stacks on Burn so

You probably want to look for an upgrade with better Cloud Radius and Burn in the future

[weak sapphire]

I had that or sprint effiency

[ornate hamlet]

You do like

2 damage on Carapace

[weak sapphire]

Q_Q

[ornate hamlet]

So sprint would've been legit better

Not even a joke

[weak sapphire]

kek

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah the Purg staff does absolutely nothing to Carapace

I think the burn damage on Soulblaze is 10%

And the direct damage is about the same

[weak sapphire]

Ok thanks 🙂

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-head-nod-head-nodding-head-nod-yes-gif-24603507

But its a solid staff

Can be slightly better

But you're unlikely to notice it except against bosses

The range is probably the biggest thing to improve

[weak sapphire]

Alright 😄

[wide tiger]

Soon as we get one toy vets are threatened, they're still top dog, sad

[velvet crescent]

please dont hurt me skaleek

[restive slate]

Psyker taunts Vets with their Illisi

[velvet crescent]

i just like shooting banana people

i am a simple man

[wide tiger]

Vets laughs back with power sword

[wide tiger]

This is the way

[shadow quartz]

The projectile isn't that fast and the damage it can deal is a bit frustrating..

At least, when I hit a fully charged ball of void an enemy that is just one rank higher than a Dreg Shooter (for a seek of simplicity let's just take a shotgunner) I expect it to be oneshotted, but it requires not one but multiple small charges for him to finally fall

[restive slate]

Psyker laughs at Vets who are still struggling to get Power Cycler

[restive slate]

Headshots?

Small charge does pitiful damage by the way

[wide tiger]

I got pretty lucky with cycler

[idle bay]

Psyker can butcher the hoard without turning power on MK V sword, Vet - can't do that 🙂

[restive slate]

Oooh nice

[golden tartan]

If ur still wondering. Executor should be kept

[golden tartan]

Even the deimos is... ok vs hordes

Cos of its fast swing speed

And one shots

[wide tiger]

Vet turns on the power sword and outclears the psyker by a pretty large factor

[golden tartan]

Eh the ilitus comes decently close. But ye the mk III psword still fastest horde clear

[wide tiger]

Power sword is still top dog on offense, but we get far better defense

[golden tartan]

Psyker swords have better defences though

Ye

[restive slate]

Illisi unlimited dodges and Ranged Blocks

[kind jay]

psyker being better than vet is canonical in game. see heres proof:

[golden tartan]

Lmao

[restive slate]

I love the new voice lines too

One time a Judge and Loner was having this loooong talk about finally understanding one another, it was so sweet

[shadow quartz]

Yeah, that's what I am talking about.. It's hard to hit and even if you hit it deals just nothing. Small charges don't even oneshot headshot Dregs\Scabs

[kind jay]

german psyker feels like the most talkative. and by talkative i mean always angry at something

[restive slate]

I treat Voidstrike as a horde weapon mostly

[kind jay]

S tier

[restive slate]

German Psyker tempting fate with heretical remarks haha

[kind jay]

has the best lines imo

[restive slate]

The most interesting lines and the hottest burns

I remember one "The door is more efficient than any of you!"

[cyan notch]

FAT

[kind jay]

FAT

[restive slate]

FAT

[honest frigate]

Thin

Skinny

[restive slate]

Attention needy Psyker

[kind jay]

i love this in the middle of a horde

[restive slate]

overwhelmed by zombies

Psyker: You mfer, listen to me when I'm correcting you!!!

[kind jay]

oh here's one between psyker and uhh i think one of the vets after a horde incoming callout

[summer prairie]

the first relay station event on hi/shock troop is something else

[idle bay]

Yesterday i was playing Gun Zealot. And one Vet gone hugging hoard during data interrogation event and he gone down twice in few minutes (rescued by me both times - i was mostly shooting and killing back-spawns in melee).
After second rescue, i wrote: "Hey! I'm a Zealot here, leave stupid actions for me!"
With positive reaction from him. Furthermore run ended up smoothly without anyone going down 🙂

[kind jay]

i want that sniper condition to show up

[velvet crescent]

My vet usually comments on how "you wouldn't have lasted a day in the guard but not much would have"

I don't remember the new voice lines but I swear he said some

[idle bay]

My favourite voice line is from criminal vet "I love you Trapper!", that might suggest that he have been stolen by her at least once and loved the experience.

[vestal raven]

oh wow

thats something

[velvet crescent]

Loose cannon?

[idle bay]

Yes!

[velvet crescent]

Gotcha

Bloody weirdo

[restive slate]

You sure it's love not loathe?

[fallow falcon]

What can I do to improve this shredder?

Its already been putting in work as is

[kind jay]

swap powder with pinning

and reroll maniac to 25% probably

[vale creek]

how guns can be good in hands of psyker?

[formal epoch]

InSaNeLy good

[vestal raven]

the shredder is really fun

[formal epoch]

I like revolver

Pop head

Pew pew

Elite gone

[vestal raven]

gotta be responsible tho and be careful to get in over ur head

[formal epoch]

Faster than doing 2 pops

[river sand]

shredder performs not bad, still not as good as staves but you're no burden to your team

[vestal raven]

swag

[fallow falcon]

So basically just add pinning fire, upgrade maniac to +25%

[vestal raven]

yes

and then its perfect

[fallow falcon]

This thing got me through a hi intensity shock trooper damnation earlier

So I can only imagine what pinning fire will do to it

[vale creek]

arent staves are comfier?

[vestal raven]

its really gross

[river sand]

cause of the aoe staves (except surge which sucks) out-dps guns but you get some nice single target dmg to quickly erase specials

[formal epoch]

What would you prefer fart stick with eagle on top? Or magnum . 357?

[vale creek]

fart stick

funnier

[formal epoch]

Yes funnier

But question was about comfort of use)

[fallow falcon]

I have never enjoyed magic sticks, give me that spellsword/gun gameplay

[river sand]

when the stick fires stack Kamehameha ball of wrath then the stick

[formal epoch]

Same sibling

[vale creek]

i see

i enjoy doing my magic but everyone have different playstyle

[river sand]

i really wish for some new staves

[formal epoch]

Charge you jedai sword ->“I am one with the warp” -> РЕЗНЯ -> finish survivors with the gun.

Top gameplay for me)

[pearl lion]

I am worried about new weapons diluting the loot pool

[idle bay]

It's already diluted beyond reason

so it makes no difference really

Armory Casiono and Hadron slot machine is only way of getting stuff. And in super -rare cases Melk's lottery

[ornate hamlet]

Loot

This is a crafting casino

[viral solstice]

[kind jay]

petition to rename Maccabian to Maccrabian

[viral solstice]

[idle bay]

We need weapon skin for dueling swords - a poker!

[timid storm]

wildfire or 6 stacks?

[magic burrow]

Just try them all and see what you like. Kinetic Flayer is nice too. I don't think there's any bad choices in that tier, depending on what youre running ofcourse.

[ornate hamlet]

Wildfire is only good if you want to farm stacks from AB

And don't have other ways to apply Soulblaze

Since it can't apply stacks if the enemy has 4 stacks already

Which is really meh

[wise pecan]

Goddamnit, was running a high intensity shock troops mission and got to just before the final room before the game froze my comp

[wise pecan]

Can’t it? I thought it was limited to the amount of stacks the dying enemy had

That’s how it says it works, anyways. Wouldn’t be the first time a tooltip was wrong tho

[ornate hamlet]

Apparently it can't apply more than 4 stacks on any enemy. I haven't tried it though.

[wise pecan]

I use it on purgatus just as a way to “prebuild”/farm stacks from enemies without having to be there myself. It does kill things, tho

6 stacks for AB is theoretically better, but in practice I’m not actually reaching that expanded cap very often

[ornate hamlet]

Its also 8% more damage

How are you not constantly at 6 stacks though?

Wildfire might help a bit with burning hordes faster and I've had situations where it jumped to enemies I couldn't see that let me farm stacks from AB

When I ran Autopistol

[wise pecan]

People shoot specials faster than I can :(

[ornate hamlet]

Nothing about specials has anything to do with 6 stacks?

[wise pecan]

Dude, I dunno what to tell you. I just don’t often see 6 stacks in the corner when I look

Even running communion + AB

I do tend to spend my ult rather freely

Ie for quickly shoving dogs

[ornate hamlet]

Just pop a head once in a while, sibling.

Don't neglect your brain

[wise pecan]

Could just be that my surge staff memories are mixing with my purgatus memories, I’ll admit

Running purgatus, I have been pretty frequently taking out specials with bb

[ornate hamlet]

You just need to pop anything to get a stack

You know that right

[wise pecan]

Yeah, but I don’t like falling behind the team with my thumb in my bum trying to bb random scabs to maintain stacks in downtime

[summer prairie]

look at those disabler/specials

this was a wipe too

[wise pecan]

Hi shock?

[summer prairie]

yes

[wise pecan]

Nice

What got ya?

[summer prairie]

everyone got downed in the finale and resses were out in the open

[wise pecan]

Oof

Mission?

[summer prairie]

consignment yard

[ornate hamlet]

Did Blaine join

Like the last third

Or something

[summer prairie]

he had to alt-f4

[ornate hamlet]

Understandable

[fallow falcon]

I don't have a better version of pinning fire to use, but damn, this thing can kill a mutant on damnation in a second

[ornate hamlet]

Autopistol is OP af right now

Use it while it lasts

[wise pecan]

Glorious ammo count, sibling

[timid storm]

the stacks cant exceed the dying enemy, so if an enemy has 1 stack and dies, it cant pass that stack on to an enemy with 2 stacks

[timid storm]

when I run that, I am permanently on 6

[wise pecan]

Yeah that’s how I thought it works

[wise pecan]

Maybe I oughtta switch back to it, see if I miss wildfire any. It should be easy to tell the difference, with the new tick marks on DoT kill

[timid storm]

I like wildfire bc of the synergy with the team

I dont have to keep reapplying flame since ALL kills add it now

and it kinda replaces soulblaze on swords

but less warp resistance and less stacks on ability kinda suck

[ornate hamlet]

Using Warp Resistance too?

Shesh

Get on that damage train, sibling

Warp Unleashed is just so nutty right now

[wise pecan]

I’ve been thinking about swapping out warp resistance to bb crushers more easily, since they’ve been the biggest motivator to pause the flames mid-horde

[summer prairie]

temped to run wrack on hi/shock

[ornate hamlet]

Not to mention Quietitude is just stupid good now with peril changes

[wise pecan]

Oh yeah I’ve been running quietude since like the first couple weeks

[golden tartan]

Yep

[ornate hamlet]

So you want to have more peril.

I think for Shock it could be fun to run Wrack + Aura + KB

[golden tartan]

It combo wombos really well with the blessings on staves and FS too

Well the cleave FS

Like Voidstrike with Transfer peril is just constant toughness regen, same for ili FS with executor

[timid storm]

then i have to keep up peril

which is like impossible with high roll weapons + purg

i run that on void staff

[wise pecan]

I mean kinda but I do appreciate having literally unending unlimited purgatus spam, and mostly playing quickplay Heresy I generally don’t have an issue with regaining toughness in a timely manner

[timid storm]

but warp resistance makes it so infinite flame bc the 10% quell on kill lowers it faster than I gain it

[wise pecan]

To be fair, even at 0 peril you’re still gaining free +10% extra damage

The more the merrier at higher peril, but you don’t have to stay at 80+ to benefit

[vestal raven]

25% flak or maniacs on the illisi?

[viscid cedar]

I am not sure why people like maniac on this

kills ragers easily as is even without +maniac modifiers

[wise pecan]

Flak. Tbh, I’d say just about every weapon benefits most from +flak

[vestal raven]

alright ty

[wise pecan]

Although, if you really want to make an informed decision

Test your weapon out and see if +25% damage makes a difference on any breakpoints, and which

And then decide for yourself

[idle bay]

I wonder if we end-up having ultimate challenge modifier (Hunting grounds, Shock Troopers, Lights-Out, High-Intensity, Snipers+Fog - all mods at once) ? And name it "cousin Okri mode"

[ornate hamlet]

Fair. I just don't have any issues with Purg even without that, and quelling is so insanely fast now that some downtime doesn't matter.

[inland sand]

heya gang

Trauma mains - have you discovered any break points at smaller blue circle with 6 Warp Charges?

like if I half charge the blue circle at 6 stacks, are there any confirmed meaningful break points at 6 WCs over 4?

I've been running Warp Battery with Trauma for the longest time and it just feels strong than when I run it without, but I have nothing to prove that

[ornate hamlet]

Trauma charges up to around 400 damage at max charge I think

So you'd lose out on about 32 damage from 2 less charges

[near wyvern]

You only really use warp battery with flurry trauma when combined with inner tranq but that's mainly for the peril resist

[ornate hamlet]

More damage is usually dope though

Just add all the damage

If only Staves got damage blessings

[cyan notch]

i like it for nuking shooters still

[inland sand]

how does that work

[cyan notch]

and wildfire is mid i aint using that shit

[inland sand]

oh

ignore me I'm being dumb

okay then I'm validated

also looks like I need 6 charges to 1 shot the mutie with Deimos Force sword

nice that you can access the heavy thrust from both the first light attack and the push attack

does the Deimos currently have Deflector as standard (bug?)

[kind jay]

yes

illy too

[inland sand]

nice

love this Deimos. Probably need to try the Obscurus again post buff to see if it's worth

[wise pecan]

Loving the deimos, too

[cyan notch]

no lol

[inland sand]

is there a world where level 4 unstable power beats out level 2 slaughterer

[cyan notch]

well yea

if ur at high peril

helps dps vs bosses

[vestal raven]

Does bloodthirsty have tiers? or it just does the same thing ar each

for force sword

[cyan notch]

same thing only t4

[vestal raven]

great

thats gonna be a fun farm

[cyan notch]

its pretty mid after they nerfed it

so i wouldnt go too crazy for it

[vestal raven]

oh yeah it's just the one crit hit now

damn

Ended up rolling this and trying to make the most of it

[wise pecan]

The thing about slaughterer is that it has a very short duration and relies on you to kill something to get any benefit out of it, so while it is still BiS (after deflector), that’s more a commentary on how non impactful all the rest of the blessings are than an actually good position to have

At least on the deimos and how I use it

[summer prairie]

if you don't horde clear with deimos slaughterer is of questionable utility

[wise pecan]

I run deimos on my purgatus

[summer prairie]

then it's fine

[inland sand]

about to go into a day of testing and recording with the Deimos, what would you say it benefits more from?

I will be running Trauma with it

[summer prairie]

and for other soulblaze builds

[cyan notch]

its nice for soulblaze buffing

sometimes u dont have 6 stacks whatever just cast at 4

[inland sand]

Slaughterer for horde killing or Unstable Power because I have it at 4

[cyan notch]

poke like 2 dudes in the face

[inland sand]

oh sorry missed Syllo's comment there

yeah no I'll be exploding hordes

so Deimos for elite and special killing primarily

[near wyvern]

Deimos Mobility best stat. Allows you to move faster with dodged than a sprinting vet

[inland sand]

This is what I'm working with atm

gonna pair with Unstable Power now

it's not the best roll but it will do for now

infinite dodge on these Force Swords is fucking nutty lol

Crab Scuttle, Awaaaay!

fuck this bot man

[gilded viper]

I'm shock it have infinite dodge but hey I'm not complaining

[inland sand]

yeah it feels like a bit of an oversight lol

[wise pecan]

I’d probably say, for elite/special hunting, either unstable power or uncanny strike, for either a bit more damage or better carapace cracking. Slaughterer you kind of have to hope that there will be random chaff next to the elite you want to kill, and that taking them out first doesn’t waste valuable time

[inland sand]

maybe Psyker not popular enough to warrant looking at it yet

[cyan notch]

its had infinite dodges since launch

[inland sand]

yes

[gilded viper]

Before thos update fs was kinda bad offensively so I kinda made sense for it to be good defensively

[inland sand]

we gettin unstable in here

[summer prairie]

looks like deimos dodging is faster than sprinting or sprint sliding, goofy

[cyan notch]

yea but u have to go sideways

[wise pecan]

Oh I’d keep deflector on it, just for when they inevitably fix the current bug

[gilded viper]

Mobility give u more dodge speed

[cyan notch]

or worse backwards

[ember hornet]

the illisi is remarkably broken how is this OK lol, and add 50% to that too

[wise pecan]

I don’t know what that means

[gilded viper]

Shhh, don't let fs hear about this

[ember hornet]

it means a minimum of 7 poxwalkers die per swing

and the minimum damage to all other poxwalkers is like 250

[ornate hamlet]

Use AB and soften them up and you can one-shot 20 per swing

[ember hornet]

it also one shots all elites except ogryns

[gilded viper]

Don't the website say 300?

[inland sand]

got it in the bank for when they do!

[wise pecan]

Fair lol

[inland sand]

although the game WILL NOT give me a sword with it past level 2

[ember hornet]

can kill multiple elites in 1 swing

like what

[cyan notch]

the slaughterer effect

[inland sand]

what do you need to stack to get that

slaughterer +?

[ember hornet]

I'm running quicken with 6 warp chagres and warp unleashed

just sliding around stroking my sword

[inland sand]

aren't we all

[ember hornet]

at 100% peril constantly

[wise pecan]

I assume the calculator is assuming max peril yea

[ember hornet]

nah

well

for unstable yes

but not including warp charges or war unleashed

[inland sand]

is Quicken good now?

[ember hornet]

ye

[inland sand]

eyyyyyyyy!

[cyan notch]

its mid

[inland sand]

i can run it on Surge at last

[ember hornet]

I run it with melee only psyker

[inland sand]

too bad Surge sucks

[cyan notch]

mainly for double charge generation

[wise pecan]

Gonna have to disagree there

[inland sand]

well, sucks maybe a bit hyperbolic

but it's no Trauma staff I'll say that

[ember hornet]

yeah you can get several pushes quickly with quicken which is great for melee psyker

plus toughness generation with quietitude

don't even need secondary weapons anymore since you have BB

[ornate hamlet]

Purge > Void > Trauma > Surge

https://tenor.com/view/paripi-koumei-eiko-tsukimi-thumbs-up-anime-gif-25479338

[summer prairie]

deimos dodge spam is faster movement than sprint sliding with a 80 mobility dagger

[wise pecan]

The hardest cc in the game (short of instant death ofc) that shoots through walls and chains targets. It definitely has weaknesses (hordes and unarmored shooters), but I find it’s a fantastic support tool - having someone run it makes clearing shooter nests much easier

[ornate hamlet]

Backwards, right?

[inland sand]

Trauma > Purge > Surge > Void

[ornate hamlet]

Putting Void at the bottom. Opinion disregarded.

[inland sand]

My Trauma staff is so ludicrously OP, it's unreal

[summer prairie]

sideways at least

[inland sand]

level 4 flurry, all the peril resist

[ornate hamlet]

Damn. Deimos kinda nutty then

[ember hornet]

I think my new response for psyker dealing with shooters is just gonna be, why would you use a staff - just hold W and melee

[cyan notch]

yea it has dodge speed and distance

[ornate hamlet]

Just hold RMB and dodge on Deimos

[summer prairie]

backwards is a bit slower

[ornate hamlet]

Wut

[summer prairie]

yeah it's weird

[ornate hamlet]

Backwards was faster on the other ones because of the distance

That's so fucky

Illisi dodge buff when

[cyan notch]

never

[ember hornet]

lol illisi dodge is already busted

[ornate hamlet]

Mek it more OP

[summer prairie]

remember what knife sideways dodges were like before the nerf

[wise pecan]

I think the staffs all have their strengths and weaknesses, and in terms of overall power/usefulness are all at this point roughly equal. Haven’t got a good trauma staff yet tho

[summer prairie]

i think you were 2x faster than this

[ember hornet]

no because this is psyker and you said knife

[ornate hamlet]

Surge is just so niche

That I consider it at the bottom

I use the LMB on Surge

More than the secondary

Since it deals with things more quickly

[summer prairie]

maybe good for hi/shock

[wise pecan]

Fair, but it’s still like being the slowest olympic swimmer

[ornate hamlet]

I mean its really good

At what it does

[cyan notch]

its a good backup stick

[ornate hamlet]

But it also lacks a bit to compete overall imo

I ran it with my BB/Illisi build

And it works well there

[cyan notch]

yea cuz melee and bb carries

[ember hornet]

does it even hit enough targets for hi/shock

[cyan notch]

your backup stick is just a backup stick

[ornate hamlet]

It fucks up shotgunners