psyker-class

[leaden thunder]

just push attack against a horde

that just

[ornate hamlet]

this dude is smoking

[leaden thunder]

infuriates me

[stable hare]

I guess they havent seen a shredder psyker fuck before

[still hearth]

Shredder Psyker fucks less than Shredder Veteran so

Get fucked

[ornate hamlet]

"waste of class" and talking like a specific weapon makes hordes easy with pushing, like pushing isnt just the general horde gameplay

[leaden thunder]

also the push attacks

[ornate hamlet]

you can horde with obscurus and deimos for all you care

[leaden thunder]

are just worse

then light spam

with a bm antax

[still hearth]

You can clear hordes with Knife

It just takes a long time

[idle bay]

More bad guides are good for class - more players playing poorly - more buffs to class 🙂

[olive ember]

That from my post?

[ornate hamlet]

long as the person understands stamina and pushing, they can endlessly kill a horde

yep, one of the comments

[olive ember]

Ah yes Reddit

Tbf I had a revolver for that build kek

[ornate hamlet]

i still maintain laspistol psyker is just so good

[still hearth]

Laspistol

[leaden thunder]

las pistol pskyer is pretty based

idc if it's good or not

but it is based

[still hearth]

It certainly is based on something

[ornate hamlet]

become proficient at clicking heads and let the damage do the funny on shooters

[still hearth]

Or you run XII

And you are more useful

And still click heads

[leaden thunder]

[ornate hamlet]

no

[still hearth]

Okay then

I tried

Can't save them all

[ornate hamlet]

(what is XII)

[olive ember]

But what about the funny force push on laspistol

[still hearth]

Lasgun

[leaden thunder]

infatry lasgun

[ornate hamlet]

oh, i dont want to use long guns

[leaden thunder]

the one you see vets using

[lime peak]

lol messing around in the meatgrinder and I now know what a Scab Gunner looks like underneath that helmet. I love the disintegration effect on warp stuff.

[ornate hamlet]

i find it awkward to weave between melee, compared to the laspistol having what essentially is instant firing on swap

its also my complaint against revolver, which has a slight delay compared to laspistol

laspistol is just turbocomfy

[still hearth]

Laspistol instant pull out is just so

Whatever

When it makes the tiny fucking

pew pew sound

Instead of a real gun noise

[lime peak]

Laspistol is def really fun to use, had a great time with one on my Vet.

[wide tiger]

Everyone see the new 10th edition video?

[still hearth]

Honestly if the Laspistol sounded like a revolver

I'd use it

[olive ember]

Mk 12 is the lasgun that dominates shooters

[ornate hamlet]

its not the size, but how you use it

[still hearth]

I only use big d||rums||

[wide tiger]

Psyker Space marine with the Power axe

[leaden thunder]

the xii has terrible hip fire so I don't like it

[still hearth]

Oh yeah

[ornate hamlet]

also honestly i wish we could remove sights from guns

the lasgun sights being that bright-ass big crosshair miffs me

[still hearth]

Get a mod for it

[ornate hamlet]

people have funny mods for sights?

[still hearth]

Well, there's no mod for it yet.

But I figure it could be done

[ornate hamlet]

i could probably learn from a tutorial, but laspistol

[sacred pumice]

pain

[feral verge]

that damage

[ornate hamlet]

haha

🫵

[sacred pumice]

natty rolls are nuts even 😭

[olive ember]

Tf you smoking I wish I had the lasgun sights on literally every other gun

[ornate hamlet]

[limber silo]

Just saw that reddit post that said jerking off your sword is a good strategy

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UyAv2rMiM

[idle bay]

Best psyker trick ever!

[olive ember]

It kinda sorta is for the power boost

Just not like

[limber silo]

This patch makes going out with a Bang and mixing match easier to accomplish than ever before

[olive ember]

Necessary

Oh yeah

[idle bay]

Also getting 25% bonus from updated feat by polishing your sword is great!

[limber silo]

Just find a group of shotgunners and jerk it till you bust

[olive ember]

Complete clickbait, video is 7 seconds long

[safe crystal]

And what do we have here?
slaps run n gun on a void strike
SPLENDID

Thamks Hadron

[tired estuary]

Pleased, varlet?

[idle bay]

Run and Gun is not that bad really...

[safe crystal]

Its my favourite blessing

Especially runnerer n gunnerer

At higher tiers

[full egret]

Love run and gun on a Purgatus

Just charge at the enemy blasting flames until it’s sword time

[tired estuary]

Buff run n gun, give it + sprint efficiency

[idle bay]

I'm using it on my Surge staff to do running headshots of LMB attacks while relocating or trying to keep up with speed-runners

[feral verge]

psyker takes massive dmg when spruinting

[tired estuary]

I thought it was vet who took 2x dmg sprinting

Idk I'm tired lol

[safe crystal]

Psyker takes 1.25x while sprinting, sliding is your friend

[tired estuary]

I hope one of the coming subclasses takes 3x dmg sprinting

[idle bay]

That gave me idea... for camouflage feat for a Vet change suggestion.
It should make it so - that they took x3 damage when feat is up 🙂

[tired estuary]

x6 total dmg sprinting near ally, I approve

Sniper literally 1 shotting them

[still hearth]

Just make Vets that take the Camo feat invisible all the time

[idle bay]

I mean detecting a cUmo-vet in your team and standing behind him during a shootout is one of my little pleasures 🙂

[still hearth]

And they don't show up when they're in a state of capture

So you can't save them

[tired estuary]

Make vets that take camo only queue with other camo vets

[lethal folio]

Run 'n' gun also lets you sprint while charging the staff attack, so you can be immune to guns.

[idle bay]

that will lead to 90% missions failure for such vets and new buff for a class 🙂

[still hearth]

I thought it didn't let you sprint when you charge?

[lethal folio]

You still move really slowly, but sprint dodge doesn't care about speed.

[still hearth]

Lol

[lethal folio]

It's important tech for brain burst too. Lock on, turn 90 degrees and sprint to start dodging.

[still hearth]

How does dodging while sprinting work?

[tired estuary]

Gonna assume most already die anyways so no real statistical change

[still hearth]

Is it just angle based?

[idle bay]

Usually there are no more that 1 of such in the team (though once i played with 3 at once). And they getting carried hard by the team they actively sabotage against

Complex sentences in English language always baffled me....

[lethal folio]

yes observe.

[idle bay]

I mean even native speaker don't know the rules 🙂

[still hearth]

That's pretty OP.

Who needs deflector

[still hearth]

Video gaming

ONLY ZEALOT ARE IMMUNE TO RANGED DAMAGE THOUGH

OMGG UR WRONG

I swear if someone brings that argument up one more time

[lethal folio]

I was mistaken, you don't actually need run n gun to do a sprint staff charge

[pine relic]

so, is bloodthirst good?

[still hearth]

Bloodthirsty is meh now.

It was meh before imo

But now its even meh'er

[leaden thunder]

why do some many pubs fall apart on chasm station

christ

[still hearth]

Crits are just not great on most weapons

[pine relic]

I have one on my caxe, tried it, but the caxe is so bad.

[leaden thunder]

it was going so well then they just

fell apart

on the boss

[pine relic]

it only gave crit on the next attack

[leaden thunder]

we had a flamer zealot coulda controlled the horde

didn't do that

bolter vet just ate shit

and idk what the ogryn did but he went down

[pine relic]

flamer does not just control the horde but also burns the boss shield.

[leaden thunder]

leaving me

a psyker

I was very close to being able to pull it back

but I got stuck on enemies

[past brook]

you know, I've been looking for a deflector power sword for months
and all of a sudden I get a deflector sword in the shop, two rotations in a row

[leaden thunder]

and could get to the respawn area

[tired estuary]

Yeah idk people just fuck around on chasm ass and don't understand positioning or roles

[leaden thunder]

yeah but they just didn't use it at all

the other assassination is like

super easy

[pine relic]

that map spawns specials and elites, if your team don't know how to play it's really easy to fall apart.

[leaden thunder]

I guess more specials spawns/elites spawn in chasm

[tired estuary]

My favorite was seeing 3 people getting killed by boss's overhead at once

[lethal folio]

Bloodthirsty deimos can be good, do a charged attack and follow up with a crit heavy stab for bonkers damage.

[lime peak]

Saw that as an Ogryn once......poor stunties

[pine relic]

The other boss fight map also has a small area that makes it even easier to control the horde.

[tired estuary]

Its way more open so thats way more space for one person to fuck off into while kiting away from boss at full speed for no reason

[lethal folio]

Chasm assassination I found it can get very easy if you pull him to the circle platform in the middle.

[pine relic]

chasm terminus has a bigger area, specials and elites spawn from all directions.

But I assume it's just that most people don't know how to play. If you want to have fun and not use the best weapon for a hard map, then be ready to lose in the end.

[leaden thunder]

it's wierd becuase it was going super super smoothly before that

and it wasn't like I was carrying or anything

this is damnation for more context

[tired estuary]

All it really needs is like 1 person fuckin up or not understanding what they're supposed to do/where they're supposed to be

[past parrot]

Damnation quickplay is super unreliable on Assasination. Teams can reach the boss super smooth then just crumble

[pine relic]

I got used to it tbh.

[full egret]

They all focus boss and get killed by spawns yeah

[faint vault]

Usually the horde isn't the problem, it's people pulling the boss away.

[feral verge]

i almost just lost a high int grim assasination mission

with 3 vets

[pine relic]

You go into the room, but nobody can break the boss's shield. They keep dying to the horde or specials, and you last a little bit longer before dying too.

[feral verge]

all of whom did not have HP curios

or resist grim perk

[fresh reef]

you wouldn't be a melee psyker

[feral verge]

so they were all on 1 wound lol

they all died, at points

so we lost the grims anyway

if i played vet, i wouldnt stack toughness

[full egret]

Stop spying on my matches!

[stable hare]

I go tough-tough-hp on my vet

[feral verge]

id go 3hp, or 2hp 1 tough

if i played vet

[past parrot]

Or 1 person gets flattened by the boss expecting to be able to face tank it like lower difficulties with a med; 2nd person dies trying to revive them

[full egret]

I like the extra wound

[feral verge]

i dont like wound

[full egret]

Sometimes it can help a bad situation

[pine relic]

I don't understand. Simply purchase three curios and refine them with grim resistance. Use them when playing the grim map. So why are there still people bitching about pick grim?

[stable hare]

Someone said a few days ago that grim perks are bugged? Can't confirm or deny

[past parrot]

I quickplay 90% of the time

[feral verge]

i only have 1 curio equipped with grim resist

but i stack hp, so

260hp

[past parrot]

but I don’t complain about grims so I guess it doesn’t matter 😅

[stable hare]

And that corruption resistance works for grims aswell

[pine relic]

I have been using it and it's working.

[stable hare]

grimoire is percentage based

[feral verge]

ik

[pine relic]

I take the lowest damage in my 90% run, so I don't need corruption resistance.

[feral verge]

i usually take the least, too

[pine relic]

This is what 60% grim resistance looks like.

[near wyvern]

Chad

[pine relic]

It would be better if you are using three health curios, but I use two health + one stamina.

[ornate hamlet]

speaking of, does the warp kill toughness talent work per target for illisis specials?

not that id drop the warp charge one anyway because that one also allows me sustain on firefights

[kind jay]

it does

[wise pecan]

ugh, just had an annoying game. we had a purgatus psyker who just kept silently abandoning the team to hold some random chokepoint

[ornate hamlet]

horde gaming

[still hearth]

Not running Quietitude

[chrome arch]

Siblings, I have a question regarding Quietitude actually

[feral verge]

Not running quietitude is cringe, offensive, trolling and otherwise problematic and should be considered throwing

[lethal folio]

Warp absorption does not work.

[chrome arch]

Does Quietitude work EVEN when Peril quells passively?

[feral verge]

Yes

[wise pecan]

and the annoying part was, they had wildfire, so you couldn't tell that they were abandoning the team until everyone was downed because we had zero support

[pine relic]

what is quietude again

[chrome arch]

Oh

[feral verge]

It works on anything that reduces peril

[ocean cipher]

is the new force sword just a knockoff power sword??

[chrome arch]

I ran Quietitude then changed to 'on gaining warp charge', then got back to quietitude again

Guess I am staying that way

[full egret]

Pretty much

[lethal folio]

It's a knockoff powersword on a class that can casually boost their damage by 50%.

[full egret]

Some differences but yeah

[prisma peak]

Hey, can the Trauma Staff secondary crit?

[chrome arch]

IDK which sword do you speak of but Ilisi mk V is very nice

[still hearth]

Yes.

But its not a massive damage boost.

[prisma peak]

Cool cool

[chrome arch]

BTW don't warp stacks affect melee damage too??

[prisma peak]

I got blazing spirit on it on a consecration

[still hearth]

Yes

[prisma peak]

So I'm vibing

[chrome arch]

Or warp charged melee attacks??

[still hearth]

You can have 49% damage

To everything

[ornate hamlet]

ur mom

[still hearth]

At 100% peril and 6 stacks.

[chrome arch]

So doesn't that mean single Ilisi mk V charged heavy is a single, stronger Psword strike?

[still hearth]

Kind of.

[chrome arch]

Huh

[still hearth]

It also has better blessings for stacking damage I think

Since you can get Slaughterer and Executor

[lethal folio]

PS gets Rampage+Slaughterer.

[full egret]

Power swords also have those blessings too

[chrome arch]

By the Five do I love using Ilisi

[full egret]

Yep

My exact sword. It’s on a 320 but it still shreds on t5

[chrome arch]

But having both peril generating weapons aka staff and Force Sword really forces Quietitude

[still hearth]

With max Slaughterer + Executor on Illsi you can hit 20.1 hitmass iirc

Which is fucking silly.

And min damage around 160, without accounting for the +49% damage boost

[chrome arch]

Also
👌 Hush, hush hush hush hush

Executor

Noted

[full egret]

With or without charge?

[pine relic]

"Cum, little one"

[feral verge]

https://youtu.be/I5UyAv2rMiM

Do this to rapidly gain peril

[lethal folio]

Executor can be annoying to upkeep, unstable power is also good.

[chrome arch]

LMAO

[feral verge]

You can use quietitude to get toughness from it

And get instant high peril for more damage

[chrome arch]

BTW

[feral verge]

That's what 41% warp resist looks like

[chrome arch]

The more peril=more damage thing

Isn't it from some feat?

[feral verge]

Warp resist is the dump stat

Yes

Warp unleashed

[chrome arch]

I might have missed the uhh

Feat

[full egret]

Executor seems a lesser option compared to unstable

[feral verge]

It is

[chrome arch]

I used 6 peril resistance bc I thought it makes me have more Bb and purgatus before 100%

[feral verge]

It does

[full egret]

Yeah. The unstable power is easier to keep than executor

[chrome arch]

So it does

[feral verge]

But warp unleashed is better imo

[chrome arch]

Might keep using it honestly

[feral verge]

Because it gives you 10% DMG boost

At 0 peril

[chrome arch]

Unless I get used to WU and no peril resist

[feral verge]

And goes up from there

[chrome arch]

Seriously?

[feral verge]

Yes

[full egret]

I love using 6 stacks and resist

[chrome arch]

Sounds well worth it then Sibling

[feral verge]

I would only consider using inner tranquility on trauma staff

[full egret]

Yeah, the warp unleashed is a competitive perk now

[feral verge]

And warp unleashed DMG boost can help you meet brain burst breakpoints

[prisma peak]

Been playing with WU, and yeah it feels much better than the warp resist

[feral verge]

You can kill stuff in 1 or 2 hits

Instead of 2 or 3

[chrome arch]

Oh yeah that + 6 stacks must maybe 1shot bulwark on t4

[pine relic]

high peril is very dangerous when there are specials following you

[chrome arch]

Unless it does

[prisma peak]

I don't know what peril it has to be but you can two pop reapers on heresy

[chrome arch]

👀

[pine relic]

I kind of hope I can remove that sound effect with the mod.

[chrome arch]

With 6 stacks and no WU I think you do 2shot reapers

Not sure though

[pine relic]

you can, but you reach high peril almost instantly.

[velvet crescent]

gave surge staff a shot
i stagger bursters and dogs no matter charge right

[chrome arch]

Ye

[full egret]

Don’t recall if 6 stacks does reapers either

[pine relic]

So if you did not start with 0 peril you can't even hit 5 BB with KB.

[chrome arch]

Well anywho I will give warp unleashed a try but I may just stick to the peril resist cos on 6 stacks purgatus just keeps on going and going

[velvet crescent]

sweet

[pine relic]

Judging by that I'm not sure wrap unleashed will give you higher damage overall since you do less BB.

[quick heron]

2 shot reaper you need cerebral lacerations and WU and hitting at like 90% peril

[chrome arch]

Seen ppl actually kill stuff with Nomanus these days, maybe because this dmg on hi peril

[feral verge]

I'd still choose purga any day

[chrome arch]

On 4 or 6 stax?

[full egret]

Exactly

[feral verge]

Over surge

[digital loom]

purge is a stupid staff

makes you better than zealot at least, but still stupid

[chrome arch]

My fave

And I main zealot currently

[full egret]

Silence heretic

[chrome arch]

To each their own

Well I'll be going, content of how good Quietitude is, my oh my

[feral verge]

Something to think about

Inner tranquility reduces effectiveness of quietitude

Because you generate less peril

[chrome arch]

Yes but if you run both staff and psword

It still gets there

[quick heron]

6 stacks

4 stax leaves it at like 13 health if both hits were 90% peril

[digital loom]

i use warp absorption because it lets me use ranged weapon as melee weapon

[leaden pier]

should i grab this? i assume warp resis doesnt really matter too much unless you're using the special alot

[quick heron]

Ok i take that back. With some testing, as long as you have WU/CL you can 2 shot a reaper with 6 stack as long as the shots are 10% and second 50% as minimums. With 4 stacks minimum it needs to take atleast 13 dmg additional, so a hair before death.

[digital loom]

its good for blocking too iirc, but no, not really important

finesse first target and mobility are great

[leaden pier]

yeah loving the deimos so far, it with slaughterer, it makes quicker work with hordes than i wouldve thought

[leaden thunder]

it actually has the same cleave values as the illis

it's just it's moveset is worse for horde clear

[lucid olive]

hadron...

[vale creek]

sooo i guess the combos for deimos is stabby-stabby and for the Illisi is Heavy slash-light slash

[frigid briar]

so apparently

having multiple psykers with ascendant blaze means they all get charges from all flames, even each other, and even well outside of coherency

not sure if intended but its... interesting

[leaden thunder]

it's been that way

[frigid briar]

guess I didn't notice cuz usually there's not so many psykers in random games

[leaden thunder]

fair

and normally only 1 has purge

[orchid shadow]

Where does Hi Intensity Hersey games place on the difficulty scale? For the most part, I can hang in Normal Heresy games as a Surge Psyker but Hi Intensity seems to kick my ass. Quickplay dropped me into a Hi-4 Lights-Out Gauntlet and I was like, "What kind of fresh hell is this?!"

[fierce sinew]

4 AB aura purg psykers is the most busted comp in the game

[past parrot]

Not much worse than regular Hersey as long as every sticks together. When the team is lacking in one area like horde clearing or ranged elite killing, you feel it a lot worse

[fierce sinew]

surge just gets fucked in hi intensity generally because it scales uniquely badly (that is, not at all) with more enemies

[leaden thunder]

often times(IMO)

hi int heresy ends up being harder then regular damn

[past parrot]

I just started playing Psyker and been running a bunch of Hi4 while leveling with surge staff

Def only useful vs elites

but it’s been pretty clutch when we’re overwhelmed with shotgunners or I need to close the gap on shooters

(Maybe Illis FS is just really strong and making up for it)

[leaden thunder]

[past parrot]

but so far surge has been comfiest for me but I don’t have all my feats and I’m running weak weapons 😅

I think the fact that surge is cc which doesn’t need good stats is contributing to the comparative good feels

[orchid shadow]

It was 2 Zealot, a Purge Psyker and me. I was trying to stun and brain burst as much as I could. I felt like such a weak link, I fled back to Normal 4.

[fierce sinew]

if you're really committed to surge I think you'll unironically have an easier time (and level faster) doing 5 or low 5

[robust relic]

sad on my psyker melk 😦

[shadow onyx]

thoughts ?

shit perks but

not bad at all

[ornate hamlet]

weak spot aight

i think you might wanna go for an orange unless you want blazing

[shadow onyx]

maybe

[orchid shadow]

Yeah, I've pretty much been Surge and a little bit of Trauma since release on Malice and some Normal Heresy. I'm not sure I could even fathom touching Damnation if I couldn't handle myself on Hi-4. Am I misjudging the difficulty scale?

[shadow onyx]

i have this too

[fierce sinew]

if you're using surge primarily (that is, not as a backup to your primary weapon that you mainly use) you're basically a cc bot for a limited number of bodies at a time. The difficulty of that role has almost nothing to do with the health pool or damage output of the cc'd enemies (surge does the same thing to them regardless), just how many of them there are

[shadow onyx]

depend on what you struggle

to some HI t4 can be harder than t5

bigger hp pool in t5 but HI is a constant flow and pressure

[honest frigate]

yes omg i love playing heresy difficulty with 2 conditions and being near the end and then i get disconnected with endless 4008 errors and mission being aborted! awesome! I love this game so much!

[restive slate]

How is everyone finding the pseudopowersword, I mean Illisi force sword?

[shadow onyx]

are you french ? because 4008 happened a lot for french players but it supposed to be fixed

[honest frigate]

im not french

this normally doesnt happen to me

nobody will give me the time back now

[shadow onyx]

well its an alpha

[orchid shadow]

Targeting and finding the right openings to BB seems to be my main issue in the harder Heresy games. It feels like whack-a-mole if I'm not getting the right targets when the whole screen is filled, things are on fire, everything is pitch black, and my eyes are watering with all my lightning on screen.

[restive slate]

Had a Heresy 2 condition game last night and for some reason no players joined at all, granted I lost at the end cause the bots are bots

[restive slate]

Reducing the Peril fx in options really helped me out, can finally see and hear things

[shadow onyx]

more like a trapper in a horde or a sniper behind a horde ?

[fierce sinew]

there's a mod to turn off a lot of the audiovisual nonsense

[honest frigate]

what classifies as "unarmoured enemies"? im guessing hordes + mutants?

[shadow onyx]

strange because since the patch, base player tripled

[fierce sinew]

mutants are maniac

[shadow onyx]

or maybe nobody dared the double condition

[worn heath]

generally speaking most stuff you want to BB is higher than the trash, so you can either aim well above the heads of the horde and generally pick out specials mixed, or you can jump and scan lock like that too

[restive slate]

Yea it is strange, as every other game I had was full teams

[honest frigate]

yeah but maniac seems to look like unarmoured so

❔

[shadow onyx]

no

[honest frigate]

they literally dont have armor

[leaden thunder]

they are crazy

so they are maniac and take less damage

don't ask questions

[shadow onyx]

flamers have armor but its maniac too

[fierce sinew]

maniac is a distinct armor type, just like unarmored, flak armored, carapace armored, and unyielding are

[restive slate]

Maniac is a different armour type

Never stick your bayonet in crazy

[honest frigate]

whats infested then

feels like infested falls under unarmoured

[shadow onyx]

doggos and green zombies

[fierce sinew]

infested is another

[leaden thunder]

poxwalkers, poxbomber and dogs

[honest frigate]

so unarmoured

[fierce sinew]

are you esl

I'm not trying to bully

[honest frigate]

THEY DONT HAVE ARMOR

[restive slate]

Though I will say the Dreg and Scab Flamer feels redundant and should have different properties between one another

[leaden thunder]

they are stinky

[shadow onyx]

[leaden thunder]

so they take less damage

dw about it

[fierce sinew]

unarmored is just a name for a category

[leaden thunder]

just like how crushers have stronger veins then the other ogryns

and take less bleed damage

[shadow onyx]

and less heat dmg from flamer beside being covered by metal

[robust relic]

armor types: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ixL8okPo98-WzCVfok0HxHnK7d83YRhCTi7WQmtlrjU/edit#gid=0

[restive slate]

Crushers have high risk of artherosclerosis that's why they don't bleed

[shadow onyx]

[ornate hamlet]

immeasurable victory

[shadow onyx]

FC norf supporter

spotted

[honest frigate]

thank you

[shadow onyx]

its the outdated one

heres the newest

[leaden thunder]

ayo

[restive slate]

What pose is that lol

[shadow onyx]

[restive slate]

Ohhh that's a hand on bottom right...

[digital loom]

damage first target and finesse are all good, not bad

[shadow onyx]

i think my green is better nayway

[digital loom]

yueah

i'd only buy that for the blessing if i wanted it but i dont like gambling on crits in a game that demands consistency

[shadow onyx]

i never play crit

[digital loom]

same

[shadow onyx]

only with caxe zealot

[orchid shadow]

Definitely "Sniper behind the horde" and Mutants that are specifically targeting me are my bane since sometimes the lightning doesn't get them stunned in time through the horde. The rest of the specials aren't so bad.

[digital loom]

try bunny hopping to grab their head

dont aim right at them but aim over them

[lime peak]

So I got a new grey Trauma from a drop that has slightly better stats than my current but 7% more dam & 5% more charge. However quell just takes a nose dive with a 36% drop(45-9). Should I even bother?

[digital loom]

with quell changes it might be doable

[tepid pike]

Hey everyone, I took a break for a few months and just came back reading patch notes. I was just wondering if soulblaze is actually good to spec into now?

[digital loom]

you only have to vent down to like 78% or something when not running peril resist

[lime peak]

I might try it in Meat 4 a sec

[orchid shadow]

Ohhh, I didn't even think about a mod for that. I'll have to try that, thanks!

[shadow onyx]

if you cant bb the sniper behind the horde , i would not tryhard and commit, just replace , finish the horde, tempo with surge or trauma if your vet cant handle it then go snipe

[fierce sinew]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/17

[shadow onyx]

unless you are fuck*d in a dead end

[lime peak]

I do however really like my toughness recharge with the staff and Quiet

[shadow onyx]

this

• jump as GG said

or relocate and try new angle

[digital loom]

i run trauma so even if i cant hit them i can shoot my feet with trauma and keep enough room to dodge

[shadow onyx]

as a psyker you should rarely be on the frontlane

and be able to move more freely than opthers

i hate so much trauma

i prefer burn everything

[wide tiger]

With the monster that is the new force swords, with unlimited dodge and great horde clear, i can frontline on a psyker np

esp with quietude being crazy now

I feel like my heavy sword zealot

which is to say, i feel great

[shadow onyx]

i'd prefer to have a psyker tempo than killing trash

[lime peak]

I can't burn stuff yet but I'm def loving the Trauma, about to try my recent Surge though.

[shadow onyx]

but its preference

[lime peak]

I'm having a lot of fun with the Deimos so far.

[shadow onyx]

me too

its basicaly obscurus but better

[supple skiff]

A shame you can’t use the Deimos skin on the other swords yet, rather like it’s look

Sword it self is interesting, the second heavy attack does more damage than I expected it too

[shadow onyx]

i guess its too hard for a 65 000 000 gross game to add some flat textures on a meshes

[shadow onyx]

the combo light heavy is pretty savage yes

• its safer than special

because no animation

[restive slate]

Light Heavy combo is devastating

[supple skiff]

Be pretty neat if you could light alt charge them heavy without losing the combo

[shadow onyx]

even light spam feel better imo than obscurus

[restive slate]

It works as well as a Duelling Sword... for a weapon they advertised as a single target weapon, that's pretty good

[supple skiff]

Big problem I had with the og swords alt was aiming it into a group to take out a rager, that second heavy attack seems to be easier to aim

[shadow onyx]

yep

[elfin roost]

Any of the new Psyker weapons worth trying?

[wide tiger]

yes

all of them

[supple skiff]

Absolutely

[near wyvern]

the dedicated mobility stick

[elfin roost]

GOD DAMN THAT SWORD LOOKS COOL

[wide tiger]

you ever heard of the pre-cog wars?

[near wyvern]

this sword can move faster with dodge than what vet is able to sprint

[leaden thunder]

[wide tiger]

nice mobility

[near wyvern]

we tested with a friend

[wide tiger]

and you can sit in block

[lime peak]

I really do love the special though, almost saved a teammate from a host solo just chunking it with the special. I say solo because the other Psy behind me was doing nothing lol.

[wide tiger]

and just dodge around

[near wyvern]

yes

[wide tiger]

lol

[near wyvern]

it's hilarious

[elfin roost]

So it seems to love flying around and stabbing high priorities?

[supple skiff]

I’m thinking I’ll stick with the cleave sword but I think I’ll enjoy the stab version more than I initially thought I would

[elfin roost]

Its got that whole spear thing going on

[near wyvern]

I pair it with trauma, I can get out of trouble and stab the occasional flanker in the face

and bosses are just trivial to kite

[lime peak]

Now we just need a actual Force Spear or Halberd.

[near wyvern]

the stabby is amazing for trauma

don't really need horde clear with it

[supple skiff]

Never enjoyed trauma but with all the buffs and changes I may give it another shot

[restive slate]

With the Illisis I laugh at Veteran Powersword users for their lack of dodges

[lime peak]

You don't need horde clear when you just dodge and stab lol

[digital loom]

as long as i'm seeing less knife psykers i dont care what they're using

[near wyvern]

I recommend going nexus spirit with it, max charge speed and max explosion radius

with the quell speed you can just cast 80 to 100 constantly

[restive slate]

Light block cancel is a funny combo

[lethal folio]

Deimo horde clear isn't even bad.

Heavy light loop is clean.

[near wyvern]

even funnier is push heavy or push attack heavy

[near wyvern]

even the light spam works

you just gotta sit in a choke

[leaden thunder]

it has the same cleave values as the illis

[digital loom]

the key is focused channeling

[lime peak]

Still surprised I haven't gotten Cliffhanger using Trauma lol, I think I'm killing too many b4 actually throwing them off.

[digital loom]

since you actually have to charge it to do something, focused channeling will let you even use it in hoard situations

after that, idk, i like rending shockwave because it helps teammates do more damage or in some cases damage at all

[restive slate]

Oh can you maintain the special?

[hollow steeple]

if only that was unyielding instead of maniac
but i'm pretty pleased with this

[digital loom]

also with trauma

warp absorption is the best

since you will be popping 5-10 things per shot during hoard or against dense packs of shooters

unless you wind up in an extremely disadvantageous position, focused channeling and warp absorption will carry

also damage not as important as blast radius and charge speed

you can have like 60% damage and still do just fine as long as you have the right feats/perks

as long as you have great blast radius and charge speed

these are the feats i use with trauma

it doesnt need an extra two warp charges to one shot non elites but kinetic flayer will help you maintain four stacks in the middle of deep shit where you dont have time to use hands

[vague quail]

PAIN

https://i.imgur.com/euIWHIH.jpeg

[honest frigate]

woah lol

[supple skiff]

Oof

Don’t suppose you have contracts left

[vague quail]

PAIN

[hollow steeple]

rip sibling

[kind jay]

oh my god

thats both hilarious and sad at the same time

[digital loom]

melk only gives good stuff when you're out of coins

how do i know this?

3 of my characters are never out of coins but the one i cant bother to do challenges on always has something good

[elfin roost]

Alright so I got myself a Deimos Force Sword

[digital loom]

i did challenges once on that character because i wanted to try something new and i stopped getting anything good

until i was out of coins again

[elfin roost]

Not sure on blessings but armored enemies are a bit easier to fight

[digital loom]

i think the trick is to be somewhat out of coins and to sit on challenges to trick the game into posting something good

then you do the challenges get the coins and buy the thing

[vague quail]

I think you are right

This has happened before

At least it's not an Illisi, then the computer would have exited the window

Challenges reset at the same time the shop does, oof

[digital loom]

challenges should reset like 12 hours before shop does

to at least give people a chance

[shadow quail]

Should be more ways of earning melk coins imo

[cold geode]

change + ordo dockets into + melk bux

[digital loom]

special conditions should give melk coins instead of gold

[shadow quail]

This ^

[digital loom]

even if its only like 25

[ornate hamlet]

How important is the burn stat on a purgatatus staff? I have one that is 80% in every stat but a forty in burn, with extra crit chance and infested damage perks and focused channeling and t4 warp flurry (all without changing out the perks or blessings) and I’m unsure if the weapon is worth using, it seems to shred through anything but I need outside input

[vague quail]

Burn is usually valued extremely high but everything is a compromise.

it seems to shred through anything

Seems good to me.

[ornate hamlet]

Ok thanks for the input

[ornate hamlet]

Should I trade out any of the blessings or perks?

[restive slate]

So we have weeklies with Melks, why not dailies too?

[vague quail]

infested -> flak, focused -> warp nexus are options

[ornate hamlet]

Thanks

[ember hornet]

sick slaughterer roll but rip perks

probably worth it regardless to have t4 slaughterer t4 unstable

[vestal raven]

could sacrifice it

[ember hornet]

yeah

hard to get 2 t4 blessings though

and the roll is pretty nice

[olive ember]

how you liking the new FS

[ember hornet]

Ill use it and then sac it it when I get good rng and roll something better

[shadow onyx]

i just got a 471 purple ilisi from emperor

[ember hornet]

damn

[olive ember]

pray its good

[shadow onyx]

ipray

[olive ember]

and not trash like precog

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/mcride-no-scream-static-gif-17386090

[olive ember]

I mean

that aint bad on the illisi

[ember hornet]

ye

[olive ember]

well

the perks are oof

[restive slate]

Power up, swipe, power up, swipe

No need for crit chance

[olive ember]

Lol when the redditors think we have the bad takes

[shadow onyx]

[olive ember]

Its fineee

just swap off the precog for slaughterer

and then reroll...

idk

the perks are both kinda mid

[restive slate]

I'm thinking of making an Illisi with Transfer Peril, advisable?

[olive ember]

nope

[shadow onyx]

i dont have slaugheterer unlock i think

https://tenor.com/view/dead-disintegrate-thanos-no-n-word-lmao-gif-21474765

[olive ember]

Start crafting more FS then

[restive slate]

Oh? I would think the charged heavy would be able to chop heads pretty easily thus dropping my Peril allowing me to charge more

[olive ember]

It’s kinda… jank

Also both passive and active quell are so quick now that you will almost never need the extra benefit of exorcist

[shadow onyx]

i dont have the strenght i've already farmed so much prior to new FS

[olive ember]

You’re better off either running deflector for the utility or bloodthirsty/unstable power for extra dmg as the 2nd blessing

[olive ember]

If you believe one day you’ll get slaughterer 4

[cyan notch]

its not bad i have it on mine i kinda like it

[shadow onyx]

i lost faith

[restive slate]

Okay gonna build one, thanks

[olive ember]

Try it out but imo it’s unnecessary

[shadow onyx]

i took deflector

its the only bless i have t3 and t4

:d

i wish i had crit stacking on warp charge

or more melee focused psy

[restive slate]

What do you recommend? The standard slaughterer and deflector?

[restive slate]

Biomancy Psyker

[shadow onyx]

do essence harvest stack ?

like vet recharge thoughness on elite kills

[fierce sinew]

no, just refreshes

[shadow onyx]

meh

does special from FS count as "warp attack"

for warp absorbption

[cyan notch]

not for illisi

acknowledged as bug

[ember hornet]

I'll take it

[dusky bear]

is it just me or does melk only rarely stock psyker equipment?

ive seen a staff once this week

every other day its just been axes, autoguns, and daggers

[plush sand]

melk hates us because we are special

[shadow onyx]

no spam special?

[shadow onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/mcride-no-scream-static-gif-17386090

i already imagined

tons of thoughness

[lime peak]

What's the general recommendation on blessings for psy curios? Saw someone say health>tough for psy's the other day, so I'm just running a max health atm.

[honest frigate]

well you see, running toughness curios is kinda meh when the psyker has only 100 stock toughness

you dont get nearly as much of it from the extra percentages the curios provide

[kind jay]

completely up to you. curios are 100% preference

[lime peak]

Yeah true just wondering what some more experienced psy's focused on.

[cyan notch]

u still get tons of toughness from melee

[honest frigate]

i run health

toughness curios dont help much

(imo)

[primal plume]

Im stacking all the ULT Cooldown abilities and items on psyker

just a fucking memelord build

[cyan portal]

+3 stam very strong on psyker

[honest frigate]

what does 1 stamina represent?

[cyan portal]

hard to say, many things in different contexts

[lime peak]

Yeah I can see the appeal of extra stam on a Psy.

[cyan portal]

it interacts very well with kinetic deflection though

feels like nearly unlimited block

[worn heath]

+1 stam=+1 bar, blocking most attacks takes one bar, sprinting iirc drains one bar per second or so

[honest frigate]

i see

[cyan portal]

block cost depends on weapon though

[dusky bear]

i run max health, toughness regen, and gunner damage resist

[cyan portal]

sprinting costs %, so more stam doesn't help at all

[warped kernel]

is inner tranquility or warp unleashed better for purg? i mainly use surge so not sure

[cyan portal]

unleashed, if you can manage staying between 80-100 peril without exploding

[warped kernel]

hm, i could see that

[cyan portal]

maybe inner traq as training wheels

[warped kernel]

i should be good, on surge i like the extra 3 or so casts inner tranquility gives me

[cyan portal]

unleashed helps you hit a lot of breakpoints though, it is significant

[warped kernel]

hm, maybe i should just get used to less casts

[cyan portal]

purga with flurry is pretty forgiving with peril

[warped kernel]

good to know

[cyan portal]

as long as you're not on 100 when you release the channel you won't explode

and even if you do you get the full channel out before starting to pop, so a good chance to trigger the reduce peril on kill

just use ult when all that fails, and play a bit safer when ult is on cd

[warped kernel]

for sure, ill need to aim for flurry, haven't gotten much luck with it lately

[cyan portal]

luckily purga very easy to upgrade because tinyest blessing pool and multiple dump stats

[manic halo]

any tips on how to stay up to high peril all the time? do i litterally just edge my brain bursts

[cyan portal]

if you run the new fsv just stroke a bunch

[manic halo]

ay smart

[restive slate]

So to edge, ...just stroke a lot without releasing your special?

[ember hornet]

uh, ok

sick damage

[restive slate]

Holy shit, Surge blessing is real

[dusky bear]

i just want a trauma with warp nexus 4 and blazing soul 4

[ember hornet]

so you are telling me that this is a bug, but vet exists and gets 10% per kill?

[cyan portal]

Do I rip my only t4 slaughterer off my old baby to put on my new baby?

[ember hornet]

so vet has innate half of warp absorption on melee, sick

and a power sword with infinite swings

good balance

[digital loom]

most people dont know how to play their class

[ember hornet]

very nice

[ember hornet]

nah spamming seems fine on it at least in the past 2 missions

I want to be at 100% peril anyways

[digital loom]

vets will lecture you for hours about how countering ranged isn't their problem, zealots will do everything they can to wander off and die, never helping team with the coherency toughness and never helping backliners defend themseves even when there's no gunline to dive into, ogryns will run shield and plant 24/7, psykers will use guns and knives and run around hollering for ammo all the time whenever other teammates need ammo too. etc etc

very rarely will you find a good player using some weird loadout

its usually a bunch of goofballs who cant do shit

but copy what they saw on youtube or reddit and use it wrong

[ember hornet]

at least on zealot you can carry 2 goofballs

but yeah it's crazy how bad pubs are

[digital loom]

the irony of psyker is that i can carry just fine as long as i avoid being a team player

[ember hornet]

like totally clueless

like can't even read feats or puzzle together blessings clueless

[digital loom]

i dont give advice to them

at least unrequested

no point

if they dont see the issue you will never convince them

you have to wait for them to realize the wall exists

[wide tiger]

Not sure if i should just melt this:

[ember hornet]

I'm fine with not good players if they ask for advice, but SO many of them are elitists

for no reason

[digital loom]

i'm 100% fine with people who cant play the game on my squad, i will try to carry them, give them advice, but i'll make fun of them a little as well

[jolly orbit]

I was alerted that my vid had circulated to the discord! I do in fact periodically browse the discord - but mostly for news and updates. Great to see the psyker channel having a lively discussion about weapons and build!

[ember hornet]

my criteria is just don't be an asshole

[digital loom]

in my experience, genuine new players are more open to unsolicited advice or water cooler chitchat than people who have b een playing a while and are set in their ways

its some kind of time investment fallacy that time=skill

they say practice makes perfect, well whoever came up with that said a very stupid thing. Perfect practice makes perfect. 10k hours makes an expert but if you spend all of them doing things the wrong way then you are an expert at doing things the wrong way

[dusky bear]

hek. yeah i need to get a nexus 4 blazing soul 4 trauma staff for this meme build to really shine

[cyan portal]

psyker pov: vets generally have terrible awareness, busy adsing while getting meleed in the butt. Orgs seem to think their hp pool means they should be taking a bunch of unnecessary damage. zealots think they're invulnerable then get disabled and die far away from team.

[restive slate]

All while Daemons are whispering in Psykers head

[digital loom]

its easy to spot people who dont teamplay from the back line because your perspective is better

[ember hornet]

it's like all the people saying that they ran hammer without cancel and it's fine when in reality it gets eclipsed by the other weapons that you just lmb spam with in hi5, hammer just requires you to use it less now

[digital loom]

thats why its important to play all of the classes so you pick up on all of the annoying things

[restive slate]

Vets who refuse to melee are funny

[cyan portal]

yeah, play zel to learn to dodge and slide, play vet to learn to aim, play psyk to learn to block

[digital loom]

vets who refuse to melee and vets who only melee are two ssides of the same coin

but at least vets that refuse to melee are able to do counter range as long as you protect them

[dusky bear]

my psyker in their 5th pub match of the day where they have to carry their dysfunctional team: "some times i think about just inviting the daemons in"

[restive slate]

Play Ogryn to learn that positioning is more important than tanking

[ember hornet]

play darktide to realize that tanking doesn't exist

[cyan portal]

I haven't played orgyn, but that seems right

[dusky bear]

ogryn is fun especially with the newer long ranged stubber

sit at the back of the group, take stuff out, pick up the littleuns that trip and fell

[cyan portal]

I cant tell if orgyn is bad or just attracts bad players tbh

[restive slate]

Gorgo Stubber makes Vets shy away in shame

[wet belfry]

All the classes have annoying players

[restive slate]

Redeeming quality of Ogryns are they're always in character

[dusky bear]

i cant be in character as ogryn. i got a cosplay to maintain

[cyan portal]

Are there many gamepass psykers around? Would love to meme some 4x purga runs but hard to find enough of us on gamepass.

[steel flame]

Aight so I went and tried a 3 toughness relic build with trauma and illi sword and boy it's something. At range I'm are an absolute tank. That 160 toughness paired with the 33% toughness resist and the super Regen from quietude. Only complaint is only having 2 wounds. Also I cannot fathom why toughness relics can only reach 17% while health can reach 21% wtf

[cyan notch]

[ember hornet]

sick

I love fatshark balance

[cyan notch]

tanks dont need wounds

[ember hornet]

oh sorry a fun mechanic?

unintended

but don't worry, flamer caxe and power sword are intended and we will keep buffing them or leave them alone

[restive slate]

Bodyguardgryn haha

[cyan notch]

the new force swords are a little buggy atm

but once they fix em warp absorption should work like obscurus does

[ember hornet]

the illisi feels kind of incredible from the little I played

[steel flame]

I love how the term warp attack is completely arbitrary and means almost nothing since warp attacks are barely ever counted as warp attacks -_-

[restive slate]

Illisi is incredible

[ember hornet]

it's like what if you had similar damage to obscurus special, but with a ton of cleave

[steel flame]

And your camera doesn't lose control

[ember hornet]

yeah

[steel flame]

On every special

[restive slate]

Single target, Deimos is king though

[ember hornet]

I watched a deimos clip

[restive slate]

Just lights can clear a horde

[ember hornet]

seems stupid as fuck lol

[cyan notch]

it should work now all the warp stuff is warp stuff

[steel flame]

It doesn't even need the special. Heavy 2 can 2 shot a crusher, no special required

[restive slate]

Yea I like Deimos for it's raw damage

[steel flame]

It's stupid

I love it

[ember hornet]

someone tried to tell me deimos makes sense because hitting weakspots

but

it's absolutely trivial to hit weakspots

[restive slate]

Withe Deimos, every spot is weakspot

[ember hornet]

it also looks remarkably phallic lol

[steel flame]

Illi special is a freaking warp attack though -_- so why is that considered a bug

[ember hornet]

exactly

[steel flame]

Makes no fucking sense

[ember hornet]

it might compete with half of a vet so therefore a bug

we have our eyes on the flamer trust me

[young veldt]

Does the psyker flamethrower staff apply soulblaze?

[vague quail]

yes

[warped kernel]

so blazing spirit is just meh right all across the board? Just got it as a IV blessing so i want it to be good and i don't want to surrender the weapon.

but i feel like i should just replace it with slaughterer, this is on Ilisi

[vague quail]

I was wondering about a crit+blazing build for illisi but I just played my first game with a good roll + slaughterer and everything just absolutely fucking melted. That sword is insane and on par with heavysword zealots when it comes to hordeclear so I think soulblaze tech is moot

[kind jay]

you can do a meme with blood+ blaze

its fiiiine

[warped kernel]

yeah i know, i have unstable power III and i can replace blazing spirit with slaughterer III and i know it will be amazing, this is just my first IV blessing so hard to just replace it

[vague quail]

You will kill shit too fast for it to matter, you cut anything below crushers in half with special, it's wild

[warped kernel]

it's definitely my favorite force sword

hard to go back to the others

it still does respectable single target damage

on top of such good horde clear

and the special is so fun to use

[vague quail]

You have an entire staff + BB for single target

[warped kernel]

for sure, i've just been having fun going for a lot of melee

[vague quail]

It's refreshing for psyker to melee like a vet 😄

[kind jay]

unstable slaughter if you just want the cookie cutter tried and true

or do the meme

big brian meme

[warped kernel]

haha

im gonna give it a try

just to see

yeah this is crap lol

just trying it on in the meat grinder

they do indeed die too fast

hopefully they buff it

[digital loom]

any confirmation if natural deflection is bug?

[steel flame]

Yes

Of course it's a bug

[ornate hamlet]

when you slide or dodge you have immune frames to certain types of attacks if the enemies attacking you were about to attack and you timed the dodge/slide properly.
however, obviously there are often a lot of enemies attacking you so frequently, that even though you timed your dodge/slide properly to avoid the first attacks coming at you, more attacks coming at you still hit you before you were even able to dodge/slide again.

[steel flame]

It's fun. So it's a bug

Have any of you tried dodging with an 80% mobility Deimos sword?

You can dodge faster than a vet can run

[ornate hamlet]

mobility effects dodge distance, but you only need it to be at 50% or higher to be effective

[digital loom]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[ornate hamlet]

there is no such thing as natural deflection

[digital loom]

ah i got it wink to keep the devs from patching it right?

sure, there's no such thing wink wink

[cyan notch]

i dont think he knows what either of you guys are talking about

[summer prairie]

It's not a bug, more like an oversight due to using old code as a template. But clearly unintended

[clear heath]

lol he doesn't know

anyways i expect it to be fixed soon

[digital loom]

regardless i am really enjoying the deimos sword

i used to use an achlys axe for quick cleanup but now i have a force weapon that can do it

I staff primary so i rarely have anything except a few survivors or the odd elite/special to melee

[vestal raven]

isnt this the meta one?

[restive slate]

I love poking them in the weakspots with my big deimos

[restive slate]

Yasss

[vestal raven]

swap stamina for flak?

[restive slate]

Yea

[vestal raven]

time 2 grind

[restive slate]

Then your gun Psyker goal is achieved

[vestal raven]

swag

thanks

[cyan notch]

its yeehaw time

[lean valley]

Now show it again but blue

[warped kernel]

i have a surge staff with good blessings i like that has +20% damage to carapace armored and 25% to maniacs, not amazing, but I imagine i should reroll the maniacs correct?

[cyan notch]

not the worst

[primal plume]

What dictates whether or not an enemy gets knocked over by the psyker ult?

[cyan notch]

warp charges

[primal plume]

but even with 6 charges they just stagger sometimes

[fresh reef]

[kind jay]

nice just reroll tough speed to experience

or ordo

[pine relic]

Glory hunter incoming

[icy hare]

what blessings do i want on purgatus?

[worthy jewel]

gotta say, leveling me first Spark'ead, and the Deimos is immaculate and chunks

[fresh reef]

zealot aggros DH
I die to it, to no fault of my own
team wipe because I was carrying for horde clear lol

[worthy jewel]

Classic Shouty

[vestal raven]

thoughts?

[cyan portal]

dodge constantly for easy dh tanking, shouldn't die to it if you got a fs.

[summer prairie]

doesn't really work on damnation if you just spam dodge

[cyan portal]

sure it does, just need enough mobility. got vid proof if you doubt it

[summer prairie]

I've tested it plenty of times in the grinder

[cyan notch]

its pretty doable but you need an object to circle around

[leaden pier]

what situations would the obscurus fs perform better in over the other fs, im not sure whether i should run over the other 2 anymore

[cyan notch]

if ur on pure open ground ur dead in 5s

[cyan portal]

https://youtu.be/YELqaJUr6U4?t=306 proof, in open to boot

[summer prairie]

I'll try circle strafing, but this is not the behavior I've seen

[cyan notch]

interesting

yea this is not normal behaviour

maybe its cuz your circle is really tight

usually its tracking is much more aggressive

[cyan portal]

it doesn't work with lower mobility stat, there is a threshold somewhere, haven't measured it exactly

[summer prairie]

My deimos has 80 mobility, I'll try it later

[cyan notch]

assuming this is obscurus deimos with 0 mob should do better

[cyan portal]

yeah that clip is just prepatch

[shadow wigeon]

It's pretty peak.

[thick carbon]

man, running around with the Illisi feels like

https://tenor.com/view/luke-skywalker-gif-19619750

[fresh vessel]

There a good list of weapon builds for psyker here?

[spice veldt]

the non-combo attacks of the daemonhost seem impossible to dodge even sideways, at least with the illisi and obs

[digital loom]

https://tenor.com/view/cooming-coom-aaaaaaa-im-gonna-coom-gif-25545869

I'M EXPLOOODING

[vestal raven]

lol

[shut ether]

IM GONNA

[vestal raven]

lmfao really tho

[weak sapphire]

I have to much wounds on my curios. And I take alot of dmg when being hit. What stat should I focus on to migate that?

[cyan notch]

hp

[weak sapphire]

ty

[fluid wren]

hi all! its been quite a while but i decided to check out the game again. how's psyker doing ingame rn?

[shut ether]

pretty strong since last patch

[fluid wren]

oh sick

[shut ether]

Quelling both active and passive is a lot faster

[fluid wren]

does brainburst scale any better in higher difficulties?

[shut ether]

Yes with specific builds you can 2 pop crusher

Need to be high peril though

[fluid wren]

makes sense

[shut ether]

Otherwise no real new breakpoints

Even your

Quells fast

[cyan portal]

pox bursters in one bb is a big breakpoint

[shut ether]

OPh nice didn't know

[cyan notch]

yes u can 1 shot all specials on damnation except muties and dogs

[cyan portal]

dogs are so close fully buffed, that power for stam blessing might push it over the line?

[cyan notch]

pretty sure thats fixed

[cyan portal]

ahh rip

[dense prism]

back playing this game is this good roll for trauma staff?

[digital loom]

it's all right

rending shockwave is great

imo that staff works best with focused channeling

because it lets you use it when swamped

this is what my current trauma staff looks like

and it does work

[dense prism]

ok thx.

[digital loom]

blast radius and charge rate are a big deal, damage can be like 70%~ and be just fine

for a goal

[topaz sable]

so I tested in Psykhanium, and Wildfire appears it doesn't give stacks to enemies that have 4+ stacks, even if the dying unit has more than 4 stacks, which isn't how it reads and is rather disappointing

Maybe I'm testing incorrectly but I don't think so

This means against a horde it's useful for saturating every enemy with 4 stacks, which is still a lot, but still a longshot from how good I thought it was

[summer prairie]

That's how it functions yes

[worthy jewel]

iirc they can't gain more stacks than the original explodee had on em

[summer prairie]

There's a bug report about it but I think it's intended

[forest coral]

Even tho it’s kinda overkill, it’s a lot of fun setting the whole world on fire and watching it self perpetuate until horde finishes

[summer prairie]

if there isn't a low stack cap, it's going to just rapidly burn through everything when you ult with AB

once the horde dies, every elite alive would get to the stack cap instantly

[topaz sable]

If it were intended, there shouldn't be need for the part that reads "The total amount of Soulblaze stacks on the new enemy cannot exceed the stacks of the dying enemy." That suggests the limit should be the # on the dying enemy, not 4

[topaz sable]

not wrong, but they could definitely rephrase it if current implementation is intended

[topaz sable]

they won't gain any if they already have 4, even if the dying enemy has e.g. 12

[weak sapphire]

Best blessings on a purgestaff?

[topaz sable]

They should honestly remove the "new enemy cannot exceed stacks of the dying enemy" restriction and instead just have it be "units with 4 or more stacks are ineligible" or something

[topaz sable]

I like Flurry and Nexus

[forest coral]

Nexus and flurry except flurry I think still bugged

[weak sapphire]

ty

I just got a drop: Nexus and barrage

[summer prairie]

Flurry works

[forest coral]

Ah it works now?

[fierce sinew]

it always "worked," it just didn't work properly

the little delay is fixed

[forest coral]

Good to know now

[cyan portal]

flurry is huge on purga now, reduces peril cost of the sped up full charges

[forest coral]

Yeah

Purg+ deimos sword is such a strong combination

[cyan portal]

at 5 stacks into a horde the peril reduction from kills is often enough to drop you to enough to chain them many times in a row

[fierce sinew]

that's just true of purg in general now tbh

the density you need to pop off with battle meditation seems less

[cyan portal]

double power buffs seem to make wildfire do a lot of work. If it capping at 4 stacks then it seems it is enough to give it infinite propagation

[topaz sable]

Is wildfire still worth with it hardcapped at 4? It's such a hard thing to actually test the value of, since with warp battery you hit several BB breakpoints

Since I often run KB with purga I wonder if a better BB is more important

[cyan portal]

im running 311122 with purga and that sword, it can stand up solo in hi damn to clutch when needed

[fierce sinew]

wildfire seems exclusively useful for blazing spirit memes, if you're actively purging you're going to waste virtually every proc

[summer prairie]

why is it wasted

[topaz sable]

it really just means you pre-stack 4 dots on all the bits of the horde you don't hit directly

[fierce sinew]

because the things in range to get the proc are already as high as the thing dying

[cyan portal]

I'm not finding it is wasted, spend most of the time on fs boosting the purga stacks

[topaz sable]

like it sounds really strong, but it's hard to actually gauge what it's doing, since it's largely hitting stuff you often can't even see

[summer prairie]

it definitely helps getting everything up to meaningful stacks, the issue is it is competing with warp battery + AB combo

[fierce sinew]

you're getting at least some value if you have the sword out because you aren't maxing stacks through other means at that point

[topaz sable]

if enemies are close throughout the horde, it should spread like a wave from the units dying first

It's actually really good at spreading, the issue is the cap on it

[cyan portal]

even with 4 stacks ab still wipes everything, so not really missing the 6 stack ab

[pine relic]

The new wildfire helps you clear hordes faster since it spreads damage to nearby enemies, but I think it kills elites and specials slower than the old feat.

[topaz sable]

since anything dying already has 4+ stacks on it

[compact cargo]

You need 5 stacks or slaughter 2 stacks to 2 bb a crusher in damnation

[fierce sinew]

that's what I'm saying, if you're getting stacks from purg there's close to nothing left for wildfire to do

[cyan portal]

i think the biggest factor is the extra range wildfire gives you

[elfin crystal]

hey guys what do you run usually for gun psyker perk wise? i got this and figured i might try the memes

[topaz sable]

it's applying stacks on all the stuff your purg isn't hitting

or not hitting heavily, the edges of the cloud

[cyan portal]

I'm also loving it on the dark missions, ends up lighting up tons of targets you can't see to aim at

[topaz sable]

maybe I need to run WB when I run KB and Wildfire when I run AB

since WB combos so well with KB

1-tapping ragers and flamers

[elfin crystal]

personnally i kinda still prefer kinetic flayer with purg. the auto wave stop with terrifying barrage when the auto head pop goes off for the first kill is just very good

[still hearth]

Flayer always meh

More stacks doe

[elfin crystal]

i prefer flayer

[still hearth]

Das ok

[elfin crystal]

👌

[still hearth]

[fierce sinew]

I think for it to actually spread it would need to move more stacks, 4 doesn't kill quickly enough. Horde that gets those procs isn't going to be at the edge to spread it further, they're running at you and almost definitely dying in the cloud (where they would have anyway) at close to the same time