i'd run surge alot if I could get blazing sprit on it
#psyker-class
leaden thunder
wide tiger
That would open up a lot of possiblities
gilded viper
i kinda agree, mailny for the fact they just CC pox walker and that it
fele like surge isn't a stave that should be use 100% of the mission
clear heath
it should just be used for specials/elites
leaden thunder
It makes your team do less work in killing but have to output more damage imo
I am totally fine when I see it but I don't like using it
clear heath
surge was pretty useful for the shock troops thing
clear heath
just to stagger the entire wave of specials that come
leaden thunder
and it is painful
cyan notch
yea i was about to say spamming surge is great for that
lime peak
I'll admit that I'm def new and haven't going on the higher diff until my chars are leveled more but I watched a Psy last night hitting a Host with Surge and doing nothing while I'm whacking at it with a Force Sword yelling "Get in here!" rofl
clear heath
i ran it with surge yesterday
it went really smoothly
cyan notch
although i like trauma better for instant burster kills
clear heath
helps that the randoms i got were really good too though
wide tiger
I do love insta charge burster kills on trauma
surge should instapop them too
makes them seize their muscles and pull the bombvest switch
cyan notch
that doesnt make sense its not explosive damage
lime peak
Yeah just started Psy recently and I'm loving the insta burster kills on Trauma.
olive ember
and it is painful
sounds like a common Memestrike L
leaden thunder
I was using truma
wide tiger
that doesnt make sense its not explosive damage
Electricity causes your whole body to seize, sounds like something that would trigger an explosion. At the very least explosive diarrhea, and if thats not nurgle idk what is
leaden thunder
shit's hard
spice veldt
flamers turn out to be extremely annoying
olive ember
I want 10x damage 20x targets
clear heath
surging the hordes of specials during shocktroops was so nice
wide tiger
I'd like it to have more targets on higher charge, and normalized damage
clear heath
trying to hit the specials mixed with dogs jumping everywhere probably would have been so much harder without it
olive ember
I want more damage tbh
leaden thunder
2nd one aint happening
gilded viper
hound are kinda tanky in general tho
olive ember
more damage more targets and thats enough for me tbh
oh yeah
hounds are BS tanky
mauler level of hp
frozen fulcrum
whats the best ranged weapon for psyker?
olive ember
but hunting ground hounds are even worse
clear heath
hunting ground hounds have like 300 hp
olive ember
whats the best ranged weapon for psyker?
pick anything that could work on vet + any of the staves
gilded viper
but yeah it should have more damage vs everything, it kinda suck it the lowest damaging CC tool while there another weapons that CC better and do more damage then it
spice veldt
i can one-shot hunting ground hounds by light-spamming with force swords
frozen fulcrum
pick anything that could work on vet + any of the staves
MG XII good then i guess
olive ember
not bad yea
gilded viper
recon vld, trust me bro
olive ember
oh if you want hard meta for gun psyker
cyan notch
yea the hunting ground hounds die to basically any light attack
olive ember
def auto pistol with pinning fire IV + blaze away
spice veldt
recon vld, trust me bro
fake actor
olive ember
but tbh any gun on psyker works if it works with any class
olive ember
fake actor
My vet used recon Vld up to 30
gilded viper
more then i should tbh
frozen fulcrum
if i dont have those blessings autopistol is bad?
clear heath
I'm fine with surge being stun anyways. We have our melee and brainbursr for damage
And with those two getting so much better this patch, surge is indirectly more viable because of it
olive ember
and then I stopped playing vet
olive ember
if i dont have those blessings autopistol is bad?
yes
autopistol is carried by pinning fire
olive ember
without it don't bother, you would be better off using an agrippa braced autogun
it relies on pinning more
cyan notch
I'm fine with surge being stun anyways. We have our melee and brainbursr for dam...
yea i was using revolver and it went fine didnt use it all that much either
clear heath
psyker can't even use braced autogun
olive ember
I had a blaze away + calvacade autopistol on zealot and it was so shit to use
frozen fulcrum
yeah i was looking for it wuith psyuker he doesnt have it
olive ember
psyker can't even use braced autogun
oh, ngl all the classes get mixed
olive ember
I will say that mk12 won't be as effective on psyker as vet cuz VET has the BS of 200 base toughness + 75% toughness DR to just stand there and pop shooters with impunity
clear heath
and suppression immunity during f
olive ember
whereas psyker is 100% toughness base and like 33% toughness DR at most if you run kinetic shield 🤮
gilded viper
stability is another thing since vet have the press F for 0 recoil
shadow quail
dont forget the 50% damage 
clear heath
well, we have damage too with warp unleashed warp charges
cyan notch
thsts why u press f with psyker to kill shooters
olive ember
the premise of auto pistol psyker is you run a horde clear melee, use the shredder for elites, BB for bulwarks and crushers and super long range stuff like snipers
shadow quail
and it highlights them
spice veldt
4 warp charges and 0% peril WU is a straight up +26% damage
an unconditional damage boost that applies to our ranged, grenade, and melee
olive ember
do you guys run AB or KB with autopistol gunker anyways
wide tiger
i run kb
olive ember
I ended up just running KB since its more universally when the game throws BS like double snipers + bomber, lets me retain stacks
cyan notch
if u wanna retain stacks then yea theres only 1 choice
gilded viper
^
leaden thunder
is peril resist worth it on truama or is warp unleashed the play?
olive ember
is peril resist worth it on truama or is warp unleashed the play?
Warp Unleashed is just
good for everything now
idk what build doesn't take Warp unleashed except maybe surge?
leaden thunder
that's what I figured, but the peril gen feels really high
clear heath
i take warp unleashed on surge anyways because i melee a lot more than i staff spam
spice veldt
i personally prefer the higher peril generation to quell for quietude
since I don't use the trauma staff for hordeclear
olive ember
Oh yeah I recently swapped from peril resist to Warp unleashed
clear heath
peril res is like, for surge flurry users who also don't melee much and mostly use the staff
cyan notch
warp unleahed letting bb 1 shot almost everything is too good to give up and thats not even considering weapon buffing
olive ember
tho I do actually surge horde sometimes depending on how my teammate is doin
clear heath
i like surge as an emergency backup stun while i mainly melee and bb
olive ember
like if my teammate is getting overwhelmed by a horde infront of him I'll swap to melee, but if hes holding the front rly well but shits coming up behind him I'll surge em
makes it really obvious ya know
noble meteor
idea: the psycker should have a special attack when his staff is charged to the max and we press the side mouse button, not just do weak staff hits
ex: a 360 degrees attack
clear heath
surge is like a reusable util
while our actual util slot is being used for killing
noble meteor
I mean I wanted a staff slam on to the ground
exactly like this
olive ember
leaden thunder
pretty much everyone wants soemthing other then the staff bonk
olive ember
but we can't have nice things sadly
noble meteor
pretty much everyone wants soemthing other then the staff bonk
really be useless
cyan notch
bonks on ranged weapons are all shit
clear heath
i also just surge out of laziness to scout enemies
homing moment
olive ember
i also just surge out of laziness to scout enemies
homing moment
oh yeah like the "huh are there still enemies left? can't tell just spam surge"
wide tiger
People said the staff bonks procc'ed warp flurry
they fixed it in the latest patch
wide tiger
i9dk
olive ember
who the fuck
gilded viper
stave bonk is so OP, i use it once and the enemy die in one hit totally wasn't because of auto BB feat
olive ember
"yes of all the things we need to patch its the bug that gives some use to staff bonking"
cyan notch
its probably not targeted at the bonk
wide tiger
they fixed lmb too i believe
olive ember
eh warp flurry proccing without use of peril
clear heath
but bonk is free
olive ember
might be good prep for when you hear mutants n shit spawn
noble meteor
i feel like this server should have an idea channel, like drg..... i know most are still not being listened to but idk, it feels nice nonetheless
cyan notch
yea but u take 40mins to charge to max
noble meteor
rock and stone btw
noble meteor
eh, it has a lot of replayability thanks to random generation
cyan notch
i feel like this server should have an idea channel, like drg..... i know most a...
forums
olive ember
thats what we need to do actually
we need to all make forum accounts and cry about every nerf psyker has
See this?
thats how we get this class nerfed into the ground
gilded viper
tbh i kinda can't see psyker getting nerf
cyan notch
they havent nerfed vets despite millions of posts saying theyre op
gilded viper
we cry about every little nerf while the class imo was still really playable
sullen bobcat
There aren't many things that aren't viable
cyan notch
playable is not a very good baseline
sullen bobcat
Even slab shield can do work
gilded viper
think people skill floor is so low for pskyer that unless the class is uber broken the class is bad (think i worded this wrong)
cyan notch
before this we had blessings on staves that were broke and didnt do shit
feats that were pathetic
stable hare
is toughness regen speed on psyker good?
limber silo
It's good on everyone
gilded viper
true alot of stuff was legit broken on psyker
i just hope that everything going up for psyker doesn't lead to a huge nerf
robust relic
4 vet team straight broken
fresh reef
now that I'm actually trying to go for it, why is Pick n Mix yet another penance which requires either insane luck, bad teammates, or both?
leaden thunder
4 vet team straight broken
4 vets that know how to melee*
even with how op the power sword is a lot of vets suck at melee
sullen bobcat
Most people suck at melee in this game
fresh reef
even with how op the power sword is a lot of vets suck at melee
mfw class designed to appeal to cod playerbase appeals far too well
grizzled jasper
mfw class designed to appeal to cod playerbase appeals far too well
i get halo vibes personally with the toughness as shield and the hip firing
near wyvern
There is a simple reason why Vet is so strong. It's the most likely class picked by FPS players new to the genre so you want them to have a good time with the game so they stick around.
robust relic
now that I'm actually trying to go for it, why is Pick n Mix yet another penance...
Do Comms-plex 154/2f, in the interrogation go up on the platform above the health station, when the lights go out 5/6 gunners spawn, pop them
fresh reef
Do Comms-plex 154/2f, in the interrogation go up on the platform above the healt...
doesn't it need to be different special/elite units?
robust relic
doesn't it need to be different special/elite units?
no
sullen bobcat
Do Comms-plex 154/2f, in the interrogation go up on the platform above the healt...
Too immeasurably comms-plex for me
grizzled jasper
Too immeasurably comms-plex for me
robust relic
the description is kinda misleading then, in that regard
well, if they said pop 5 elites, people might thing double-popping on the same elite would count and it doesnt...but yeah I can see that
fresh reef
well, if they said pop 5 elites, people might thing double-popping on the same e...
well, I do get that, but it specifically says "kill", not just hit them with it
"kill 5 different elites" reads to me as they all need to be separate types
olive ember
There is a simple reason why Vet is so strong. It's the most likely class picked...
I mean by that logic you would think zealot would be rly strong too
considering Darktide has a VT base
and alot of players from VT
robust relic
well, I do get that, but it specifically says "kill", not just hit them with it
possibly because Fat Shark are non-native english speakers
shadow quail
They're all playing vet
olive ember
so you would want those players to stick with the game and a melee class like zealot should be OP in that regards too
fresh reef
possibly because Fat Shark are non-native english speakers
fair point
"Rougneck'S a beast" has been here since day 1 ptb lol
clear heath
There is a simple reason why Vet is so strong. It's the most likely class picked...
I also think it being strong is the reason a lot of people are even playing it
The whole point of vet is just to be the strong statstick, with high damage and toughness
hard totem
quick question someone just told me to try +3stam with KD because it intereracts with the perils, what did they mean by this? Does Stamina make our peril more efficient or something?
clear heath
would be too boring to play if it wasn't op
near wyvern
what is this shit
robust relic
what is this shit
Diablo is queuing people so everyone wants to try it
olive ember
what is this shit
Queues man
near wyvern
so next time I crash mid game I will be stuck in queue?
olive ember
their servers are full like ffxiv
robust relic
so next time I crash mid game I will be stuck in queue?
you get the full experience that way
clear heath
man, do you guys remember when this was like 29%?
olive ember
yeah
near wyvern
I guess that's one way to make me go sleep instead of going for 'one more'
olive ember
tbf they had like two decent updates in a row so
robust relic
patches lately been pretty good tbh
olive ember
if they keep it up it might actually not be mixed
they need new content tho
like actual new content
not just map modifiers or wte
sullen bobcat
And catfish is doing a good job at comms
near wyvern
Yeah I will update my review soon™️
clear heath
I actually feel comfortable telling people this is a good game now
kind jay
hard totem
quick question someone just told me to try +3stam with KD because it intereracts...
anyone know about this?
olive ember
I legit loaded into the lobby when update dropped, and the first thing I saw was a guy go "oh so theres no new maps or anything? eh wte i'll see next time then" and fucked right off
so yeah
clear heath
anyone know about this?
It does
100% of your peril bar is equivelant to 4x your max stamina
olive ember
they need new content
olive ember
tbh tho I think they need to add some new gamemode, maybe a rouge lite gamemode like chaos wastes
or maybe a boss raid gamemode with idk
8 or 16 players?
that would be cool
idk
shadow quail
I think that will be a while off
olive ember
idk cuz you have to realize optics tbh
hard totem
It does
100% of your peril bar is equivelant to 4x your max stamina
WAIT i understand now, thats wild. Ty
olive ember
rn people are like "holy shit the games improving from the shit show of december"
but like
two more updates without any new content and its gonna be
robust relic
tbh tho I think they need to add some new gamemode, maybe a rouge lite gamemode ...
they need to give me a few million credits and 50k plasteel then the game will be good
olive ember
"when the fuck are we getting new content, idgaf about a new modifier or two new weapons"
shadow quail
I can see is getting new maps soon, but something like that would probably be an expansion level thing
hard totem
idk ive been having fun since december 👉🏾 👈🏾
olive ember
they need to give me a few million credits and 50k plasteel then the game will b...
ngl thats nothing, I've prob burned through atleast 200k plasteel and and like 50m credits
kek
¯_(ツ)_/¯
robust relic
ngl thats nothing, I've prob burned through atleast 200k plasteel and and like 5...
you must play....a lot
olive ember
idk the problem with maps is like
you run them maybe 2 or 3 times
and then they are just like any other map in the pool
unless they have something rly unique to offer
shadow quail
Yeah I get that, but just from a development standpoint, something like chaos wastes will take time.
robust relic
and then they are just like any other map in the pool
yeah, I dont even pay attention to the map anymore, just modifiers, its all the same
hard totem
i want my Plague Marine boss mission
olive ember
this is where I wish we had a roadmap thing but at the same time its like roadmaps have a rly bad connotation
cuz companies tend to either A) delay shit B) never fulfill roadmap promises C) both
shadow quail
Roadmaps are waste of pixels most of the time
robust relic
this is where I wish we had a roadmap thing but at the same time its like roadma...
you cant release a roadmap anymore, because unless you hit every milestone reliably every time people rake you over the coals, and the reality is you wont for 100 reasons
olive ember
I mean ffxiv is a good idea of what a roadmap is but
they are also alot bigger and probably one of squenix's flagship products rn
but yeah their live letter typically gives alot of insight on whats coming etc. etc.
dawn ruin
I have way too many hours in FFXIV.
shadow quail
Look at valheim, they released a game that most people would have been happy with, as an early access, but they relesed a huge roadmap and promised within a year, missed all of it. If they had not released it, I wouldn't have had expectations for the rest tbh.
olive ember
Exorcist kinda mid in general
twilit badger
No matter how many weak spot hits you make
olive ember
its repeated hits
twilit badger
Yeah
clear heath
I've seen good roadmaps before, but i kinda doubt it would be a good idea for fatshark
full egret
Lmao. Some Reddit post about how good wildfire is completely ignored in his own video the veteran with a powersword annihilating the horde his blaze was on.
olive ember
it should work iirc
clear heath
no way it would go well
olive ember
Eh i dont use exorcist ngl
but I did hear someone say it didn't proc on one swing
and it only procs once per swing or something
robust relic
for Exorcist I think you have to hit the same weakpoint more than once on the same target?
clear heath
yeah it's repeated hits
twilit badger
Yes i'm hitting it repeatedly
clear heath
The idea of using exorcist on illisi to special charge after 2 swings seemed pretty cool
FS has too many good blessings to give up a slot though
olive ember
Imo the idea that exorcist is good stems all the way back to pre-launch psyker release, when you blew up at 85% peril, passive quell was faster than active quelling, etc. etc.
back when quelling / warp resist was literally the only way to make psyker useable
olive ember
but nowadays its just like "wow I get 5% quell per swing, I can also active quell for literally one second and lose like 20% peril"
and on top of that passive quell has been buffed across the board so like
twilit badger
Eh
clear heath
Well it's not quite instant
still hearth
It is
robust relic
lmao i remember the passive quell being faster than active
dueling sword infinite tanking daemonhosts FTW
clear heath
but yes it's a big chunk
clear heath
I know, i have the mod too
stable hare
is deflector + slaughterer bad on the ilisis?
clear heath
It's not 0ms after the input
twilit badger
Yes
olive ember
slaughterer is good
twilit badger
Because Illisi currently
olive ember
deflector is... I mean its bad because of bug but I still use deflector
olive ember
theres a bug that gives illisi deflector by default
twilit badger
olive ember
but like
stable hare
if it didnt?
olive ember
don't expect to keep it
still hearth
Deflector still bad
olive ember
I'd run it
still hearth
twilit badger
If it didn't
still hearth
Don't use the crutch
olive ember
don't listen to vanessa reee
twilit badger
Yep
still hearth
Deflector is a meme
olive ember
I'd run deflector it opens up a bunch of options
you also don't need the extra damage ngl
twilit badger
Also
stable hare
i dont feel it needs the 4-5% extra power
stable hare
so something defensive is cool
olive ember
lmao
stable hare
yeah i love it and i cant go back to anything else atm
robust relic
deflector is nice when you are running purgatus, since you have no range other than pop
twilit badger
For once Psyker gets decent weapon
olive ember
the new force swords are similar to the OFS, in that slaughterer is good, 2nd blessing rly is just preference
twilit badger
And you have gall to say it's busted
clear heath
the 20 or so power you get from unstable doesn't feel that essential when you're getting 75% from slaughterer
old quiver
Yo can someone explain how overall weapon rating affects the stats versus the base modifier rating?
olive ember
I mean its a discount powersword, except its uncharged heavies (and even lights) do damage, and it has infinite dodge, and it has a good push and push "attack"
olive ember
Saw a comment on a yt video today claiming that “psyker has never not been op.”
lmao link
still hearth
Hitting 21 hit mass
olive ember
I want to see the hard cope
twilit badger
In theory tho bloodthirsty could be very good on Illisi?
still hearth
Psyker has been the worst class for a long time lmao
olive ember
Just a reminder that it took psyker this long to be considered "good" because people in the CBT called psyker OP and boring
still hearth
In theory tho bloodthirsty could be very good on Illisi?
Not better than stacking power
stable hare
20% from unstable? isnt it like 5% power?
still hearth
But its not useless
olive ember
20% from unstable? isnt it like 5% power?
5% per stack, up to 20% cuz it can stack 4 times
robust relic
20% from unstable? isnt it like 5% power?
5% per 20% peril
twilit badger
Not better than stacking power
Slaughter + Bloodthirsty
stable hare
oh
still hearth
More power is probably still better than Bloodthirsty.
olive ember
It’s in the comments, not the video.
https://youtu.be/8o0T0xxh2NY
instant disgust
still hearth
Since crit is kinda mid
olive ember
this fucker is using a claw
dawn ruin
Lmao
still hearth
Executor gives 25% I think
twilit badger
Even then when you are at near max peril
dawn ruin
Yeah it’s not the best video I’ve ever watched.
still hearth
Which is more damage than what you get from critting
And it works on normal attacks
olive ember
idk why people think the claw is good
its like
holy shit
use literally anything else
dawn ruin
First one by this creator I’ve watched as well.
dawn ruin
I just use force sword because it’s cool and it’s a psyker melee.
twilit badger
When you hit body or miss?
gilded viper
claw could be good, if every other weapon suck ass in the game just like it 
worthy jewel
Oi Spark'eads, if were to be a Spark'ead meself, am not, wot be best curio options?
olive ember
claw could be good, if every other weapon suck ass in the game just like it <:RW...
"claw would be good, if every other weapon got their damage nerfed by 75%"
kekw
twilit badger
For block crab dodge
gilded viper
basically KEKW
twilit badger
clear heath
Oi Spark'eads, if were to be a Spark'ead meself, am not, wot be best curio optio...
You're gonna get really mixed answers
still hearth
Claw isn't terrible but its outshined in every aspect by the higher tier weapons
So why use it
gilded viper
the fact axe can do it job but 100x better with 1 blessing just show how bad the weapon is
olive ember
Oi Spark'eads, if were to be a Spark'ead meself, am not, wot be best curio optio...
its like the zealots, people argue for either all health or all toughness or any combination in between
if you want you can even throw in one wound curio or one stam curio
ornate hamlet
Extra ordos
tired estuary
yeah idk I used mk4 claw for pure anti horde weapon sometimes and it was "fine"
olive ember
I run 3 wound curios 
clear heath
I've used full toughness for a really long time and liked it.
Now that i have better rolled curios, i've settled on 1 toughness and 2 hp with toughness perks on all of them
These are nice numbers
tired estuary
but now illisis exists so
gilded viper
most weapon can CC and horde clear better, parry is a fucking meme and legit every class have just a better "sword" type weapon
clear heath
I just like hitting around 130 toughness so 2 groaners don't empty my toughness
gilded viper
psyker - force/duelling
zealot - heavy sword
vet - power
worthy jewel
thank ya Spark'eads
clear heath
a lot of enemies hit for exactly 64 melee damage
tired estuary
claw counter not stunning ragers
clear heath
so not having toughness get emptied from that is nice
dawn ruin
The first comment on that is that the build must be troll lmao.
safe crystal
Minecwaf? 
olive ember
tbf I prefer growing up with minecraft compared to what kids grow up with nowadays
olive ember
breathes sigh of relief
safe crystal
I still play it, although heavily modded nowadays
clear heath
yeah it seems like either minecraft or fortnite
olive ember
idk people meme about zoomers but the earliest ones are like 20+
gilded viper
23 is what
feral verge
Zoomer
olive ember
I mean they are somewhere in the pack of millenials and post millenials
actually nvrm
they are zoomer
feral verge
@gilded viper this you?
gilded viper
zoom zoom zoom 🏃♂️
gilded viper
im sorry 😦
feral verge
dont tell anyone i blew up that game
i turned the peril fx way down that game, and was trying to get a sniper
gilded viper
don't worry, it felt like i was throwing that game too with the amount of time i went down, stabby FS is weird to use
olive ember
herm
actually thats kinda weird now that I think about it
if you are like a super early zoomer
you are literally in your mid 20's
sullen bobcat
It's funny how time and aging works
olive ember
I wonder how they feel tbh
sullen bobcat
Pure pain
olive ember
when they see zoomer's being referred to as fortnite dancers
gilded viper
when i heard zoomer i just think of tictac kids
olive ember
honestly yeah
I've literally disassociated from the term zoomer even tho I am one
cuz I just think of the 12 yr old fortnite lover
gilded viper
won't be a first that a word lose meaning on the internet
olive ember
I mean I've been called a boomer by like a 12 year old before so
anything 15+ is a boomer and anything <15 is a zoomer
sullen bobcat
ok, boomer
gilded viper
no 23
sullen bobcat
I'm working public service, so it's guaranteed to be forgiven in 10
gilded viper
covid legit feel like it stole 2 years of my life
olive ember
I still think its fucking 2020 ngl
gilded viper
im still progressing that it 2023 and not 2022
olive ember
it was a 10/10 smooth transition let me tell you
gilded viper
i started at 2018, but switch major after the first year, and im NOW about to get my AS degree 
been in community college for almost 5 yaers now
think i have the same GPA, mainly since i failed a class or 2
i hate my college and the major i switch too
can barely take any more then 2 classes per sems cause of the lack of NEEDED classes there that doesn't use the same time frame
fresh reef
finally part of the cool kids club
olive ember
finally part of the cool kids club
Congrats
now all thats left is to get that fancy damnation border
and after that everything becomes a meme
olive ember
can barely take any more then 2 classes per sems cause of the lack of NEEDED cla...
don't you love required classes?
Ah yes tell me more about Ancient Greek Art, it is surely needed for my Computer Science Major
gilded viper
i just love taking so much time to finish a 2 year that my fafsa told me fuck u for this sems and had to pay out of pocket
i was doing CS major then i switch to computer engining afterward cause fuck college math
honesty i should had just drop out cause that major is a trap for doing it in time
there like 1 class per subject
my school barely support that major
olive ember
Lol the three tiers of computer majors
IT CS, and CE
I thought about doing computer engineering, thank fuck I didn't
its computer science, but an "engineering course"
gilded viper
cybersecurity is another one
olive ember
A cybersecurity is considered CS for my college
gilded viper
IT CS, and CE
idk if it my college but basically was force to do 2 class per sems for way too long so it felt 
which tho i like the engineering part > coding
sometime i wonder if i should had listen to my mom and just take something as simple as accounting
would had been done by now , atleast for AS degree
olive ember
I'm just dying over here since my dumbass went "hey lets do a double major"
double major + minor
I think I'm gonna have to load up on the 20 credit semester >.>
gilded viper
sheesh
tender onyx
are either of these blessings good for the illisi
leaden thunder
uncanny is ok
olive ember
are either of these blessings good for the illisi
they are both eh tier
leaden thunder
I think
gilded viper
im just glad it over this year, not planning on going into a 4 year since i didn't really plan how im going ot buy it + think it just better getting cert > degree in the IT space
olive ember
but tbh FS only need slaughterer
on illisi keep executor get rid of uncanny
and yeah
tender onyx
cool thanks
long wharf
in technical fields where self-study is possible, experience and certifications mean far more than a degree
tender onyx
anybody tested the deimos out? is it worth using over the illis?
olive ember
depends on who you ask
I think its overrated garbage and would take the obscurus over it
some people think its the sword forged by the gods
olive ember
in technical fields where self-study is possible, experience and certifications ...
I mean how does on get experience and certifications
tired estuary
deimos is probably a sidegrade to obscurus
long wharf
getting your foot in the door is the hardest part
as long as you're reasonably intelligence, competent, and self-motivated, everything else will follow
olive ember
hmmm
twilit badger
Deimos thrust attack is insanely powerful tho
gilded viper
I mean how does on get experience and certifications
studying this on my free time since my dumb ass never took the test when i took the class 2 years ago, aiming to get a A+ cert
olive ember
cost any money? I'm broke af as is
gilded viper
yes 😦
olive ember
oof maybe after im out of uni then
ornate hamlet
I prefer the obscurus because it pairs well with my purgatus but I could see the illis pairing well with some of the other staves and weapons
gilded viper
my family force me to use my tax refund money to rebuy the class since it my fault for never taking the test and i forgot most info
tired estuary
illisi is just good in general
tender onyx
that cleave feels so good
olive ember
Illisi is just good in general
but it loses out on the single target burst that the obscurus has so yeah
steep shuttle
Would you rather use the new stabby sword or the new aoe sword?
steep shuttle
i was wondering if it takes the same amount of time for a charge + light force attack as it does a brain burst
long osprey
With purgatus staff I don’t really need more crowd control
steep shuttle
in essence taking the same amount of time
long osprey
So I use Deimos sword now
olive ember
Well thats the thing, I still prefer using OFS > DFS with purge
in the off chance I need to melee shit down for wte reason I have some form of cleave
feral verge
i run illisi with purgatus
i use it as a peril generator/toughness regen machine
not for horde clear, necessarily
olive ember
I mean you can run illisi with anything tbh
you basically give up crusher and boss damage for hordeclear/peril gen
feral verge
idc about crusher damage cuz I BB them anyway
leaden thunder
what's funny to me is the stab sword is just better then the dueling swords imo
long osprey
Especially with the infinite dodge
gilded viper
what's funny to me is the stab sword is just better then the dueling swords imo
i hate that u made me think this
cause u right
time to delete all my dueling sword KEKW
ocean charm
not psyker related but anyone know if mods are a no go after the recent patch?
olive ember
Stab sword also better than knife no?
gilded viper
mod till approve
digital loom
which blessing do i take off
olive ember
digital loom
quell on weakspot?
olive ember
Why
feral verge
both are meh
olive ember
replace exorcist with slaughterer
digital loom
yes i'm aware hadron bricked my sword
feral verge
exorcist is only worth considering on t4, on illisi
ocean charm
lmao friends "forced" me to put it on my profile ages ago and forgot to take it off since haha
olive ember
mmm yes "forgot"
feral verge
unstable power
olive ember
you still want slaughterer
ocean charm
mmm yes "forgot"
I mean i get a good laugh every time someone reminds me its there hah
olive ember
I guess unstable power but literally one stack of slaughterer is like 3 stacks of unstable
feral verge
unstable power will be an instant damage increase, so long as you have high peril
olive ember
to put it this way, unstable is up to +20% power, slaughterer is 15% per stack
one kill on literally anything gives you 3 stacks of unstable
that includes dot kills
so if you are pairing it with a purge staff, flaming a horde and then pulling out the DFS means you will get slaughterer stacks from shit that dies from the DoT while you have your sword out
feral verge
not st upid at all
digital loom
purge staff is also stupid
olive ember
what are you even using
olive ember
oof Skaleek getting a SkaleekMomentTM
feral verge
that wouldve been good
wide tiger
what are you even using
my current one
feral verge
could still be salvaged if the next perk and blessing are good
olive ember
my current one
wow you have slaughterer IV
feral verge
nice
feral verge
i hate the warp resistance
safe crystal
why can't I have that
Just roll better 4head
feral verge
mine is at 41% and it takes 3 charges to get to 80% peril lmao
olive ember
I mean
feral verge
Just roll better 4head
that is really good
olive ember
wide tiger
Just roll better 4head
Nice
olive ember
not the best but eh
feral verge
that finesse
vale creek
can i get IV blessing for 1st blessing?
vale creek
when i reach blue state?
safe crystal
Yeah, would've needed unstable T4, but oh well
feral verge
wide tiger
They should let use diamanthene to upgrade blessings onw eapons
feral verge
running exorcist for toughness regen with quietitude
full egret
Okay….. why does everyone want unstable while slaughterer is 3 times better?
wide tiger
and/or perks
olive ember
when i reach blue state?
def yes, how rare it is tho no clue
wide tiger
Okay….. why does everyone want unstable while slaughterer is 3 times better?
because its second best
vale creek
okay thanks
safe crystal
when i reach blue state?
Yes, apparently higher base stat has a higher chance for T4s
full egret
because its second best
It’s an antie synergy though
tired estuary
b/c getting both + warp unleashed is funny
olive ember
Unstable + slaughterer means you can get +95% power
Personally I don't see the benefit tbh
I much prefer deflector kek
feral verge
for my purposes on this sword, for this build, i like unstable because it's an instant damage increase. i dont need to kill something else to get the dmg boost
full egret
I understand getting both for maximum power meme, but I’m encountering people that want unstable over slaughter
tired estuary
need more power
full egret
for my purposes on this sword, for this build, i like unstable because it's an i...
You just slice through a pox walker and have it
And you just keep swinging with slaughterer
olive ember
the logic is that deimos is only being used for single target
and therefore having to pull it out and maintain stacks isn't good
but
feral verge
if there's a mutie in my face, i'd rather end the mutie, then go looking for a poxie to destroy, then the mutie
olive ember
thats theoritical
full egret
Unstable actively reduces its own power due to the 10% random quell chance and just time
olive ember
in an actual game you will probably be killing atleast a couple things with your mlee
full egret
the logic is that deimos is only being used for single target
I still dislike animation lock weapons
olive ember
Unstable actively reduces its own power due to the 10% random quell chance and j...
I mean its still free damage, assuming you have atleast 40% peril thats a constant 10% power buff
I mean you don't use the special on DFS
ocean charm
I understand getting both for maximum power meme, but I’m encountering people th...
Doesnt unstable power also boost ur BB dmg though? Or has that been "Fixed"?
full egret
The situations I’d want to use a force sword alt, it would be much safer to BB
olive ember
the light 1 -> heavy 2 combo out dps the special
its fucking dumb
nah FS is alot safer in multiple occurances
full egret
Doesnt unstable power also boost ur BB dmg though? Or has that been "Fixed"?
I wouldn’t rely on a bug when building something that takes hours to get
olive ember
it stun locks boses, and does more dmg
feral verge
Unstable actively reduces its own power due to the 10% random quell chance and j...
yes
but it can shine on illisi
because this
instant 80% peril
full egret
I’m aware
olive ember
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UyAv2rMiM
with warp resist you can get to 100% peril without blowing up
full egret
But when your shit deep and pox walkers are in your boots
full egret
If a melee weapon has the merit of not using it when surrounded by a horde, it doesn’t have its own merits
olive ember
its situational ¯_(ツ)_/¯
full egret
If the anwser is to not use it in a desperate melee then it’s not a good melee
full egret
its situational ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Which situation
feral verge
i'd still happily use it in a desperate melee situation lmao
its great for that
but i have purga, so
full egret
by that logic thammer is trash tier
No one is debating thunderhammer’s f tier
olive ember
Which situation
you run unstable to get the funny one shots on elites
full egret
With the bug right?
olive ember
with what bug?
I mean unstable power deimos thats used two get funny rager oneshots
tho again I would just run OFS
leaden thunder
has anyone tested dots with power buffs this patch?
olive ember
has anyone tested dots with power buffs this patch?
wat you mean by power buffs?
leaden thunder
someone in zealot chat was testing the flamer with power buffs and it wasn't effecting the dots
full egret
It hasn’t happened yet, but it’s happened before
leaden thunder
sluaghterer, pinning etc
olive ember
power buffs affects things that matter
pinning fire and warp unleashed affects soul blaze
leaden thunder
it should be effecting it
full egret
Weaker class gets something a bit better, goes wild saying how good it is. Gets it nerfed
I’ve seen it so many times it’s frustrating and I’m feeling it happen again with our siblings salivating over tiny things
leaden thunder
wrong sean
olive ember
fml
leaden thunder
olive ember
wte
full egret
Lmao
safe crystal
feral verge
can we ban this guy
olive ember
but yeah 33 burn with 4 stack AB, with one warp charge (cuz fucking flayer) and 5 stacks of pinning 2
it was going up to like 60
lime peak
New Psy, Wrack & Ruin or Warp Unleashed, btoh seem pretty good.
feral verge
warp unleashed, almost every time
warp unleashed starts as a 10% dmg boost, at zero peril
and it only goes up from there
in most cases, if forwhatever reason i didnt want to run warp unleashed, i'd actually take inner tranq
over wrack and ruin
olive ember
its good but warp unleashed is just good on pretty much every build
like I think I run warp unleashed on literally every build
full egret
If you’re using a staff inner tranq is the bis
feral verge
i would only consider inner tranq on trauma staff
full egret
I don’t need to oneshot hordes any harder though
feral verge
everything else? warp unleashed
olive ember
quelling is so fast that warp resist is kinda irrelevant now
full egret
quelling is so fast that warp resist is kinda irrelevant now
Warp flurry makes it still very relevant
feral verge
you can start 1 shotting and 2 shotting shit
full egret
40% DPS isn’t anything to sneeze at
olive ember
it really isn't
full egret
Yes, but my Voidstrike I don’t believe 25% extra damage will hit and breakpoints
olive ember
10-25% dmg buffs surge and purge alot, on voidstrike and trauma it means you can hit breakpoints at half charges alot easier
voidstrike is literally the one staff that ran warp unleashed before the change
feral verge
you're forgetting brainburst
full egret
voidstrike is literally the one staff that ran warp unleashed before the change
Ehhhhhhh?
full egret
The BB for warp unleashed is a bigger change, do agree
feral verge
on my void it's impossible to reach critical peril
full egret
there was literally no reason to run warp resist
I have that exact staff and still use resist to keep it consistent. Arms flailing around still mess with head hitboxes unfortunately.
feral verge
madlad
feral verge
cloud radius is sad
full egret
There’s a certainty to always launching balls 24/7 that resist gives
olive ember
idk transfer peril makes warp resist irrelevant 9/10 times
dmg is just always good
especially since it means proccing warp flurry faster/easier
lime peak
Yeah I was thinking Unleashed looked really good just wanted to check what the vets were messing around with.
feral verge
i mained voidstirke for months, and i agree with derpy
olive ember
since you hit the one shot breakpoint sooner with dmg
vale creek
actually this is not half bad
olive ember
actually this is not half bad
not bad, replace exorcist with literally anything else and you good tbh
vale creek
i like exorcist
vale creek
thank u very much
feral verge
Yeah I was thinking Unleashed looked really good just wanted to check what the v...
this is what i run
i only play damnation
feral verge
the perks are funny
feral verge
yeah i think i'd use the 2nd staff
replace crit dmg with crit chance, or unarmored
and whatever perk you get for warp nexus
olive ember
Lmao I was gonna get rid of the purple staff
feral verge
OMFG LMFAO YOU'RE POOR
olive ember
and then I looked at the fucking
feral verge
look at him LOOK AT HIM
olive ember
its even worse
digital loom
they're both bad because purg is stupid, just use the one you want
full egret
since you hit the one shot breakpoint sooner with dmg
Yes, you hit the break point 25% faster. Which on a flurry….. is about .1 seconds saved
olive ember
Yes, you hit the break point 25% faster. Which on a flurry….. is about .1 secon...
25% faster before flurry procs
full egret
25% faster before flurry procs
It’s really fast to get flurry up to max
olive ember
they're both bad because purg is stupid, just use the one you want
what do you run again
wide tiger
there's hope!!!!!!
digital loom
something better than purg, i'm not sharing
olive ember
lmao okay
full egret
Also without flurry you might be saving .2 seconds, yaaay
That’s assuming you’re already running hot
olive ember
Its still better than peril resist
you legit don't need it with transfer peril as long as you are hitting heads
full egret
Peril resist makes it more useable outside of hordes too
long osprey
Got this surge staff now:
full egret
dmg also helps with non horde enemies
Depends on break points
long osprey
Lets just say enemies get stunned alot
lime peak
@feral verge Yeah was trying to decide on Quiet or Absorbstion if I was going to use Unleashed. Using a decent(4 my lvl) Deimos and a Trauma atm, really loving the Deimos special.
full egret
Which I don’t have the math on tbh
Also
Warp resist let’s you do the funny spam move more
still hearth
Warp Absorption could be worth it on Illsi
But the issue I always have with it
Is that it works best in situations where you should have no issues with toughness
leaden thunder
like a lot of t1 toughness talents
full egret
Except vets toughness on elite kill
leaden thunder
not all
full egret
That stuff is busted
leaden thunder
but each class has like at least 1 t1 talent that works really well when you don't need more toughness
olive ember
I mean
Essense harvest used to be vets ability
then they nerfed it from 50% to 30%
it also doesn't stack
like ???
leaden thunder
at arms length(though it's on the better end), purify in blood off the top of my head
safe crystal
A moment of silence for another power sword i refuse to buy, because fuck that weapon
leaden thunder
maybe the ogryn hitting multiple enemies with a heavy one
but idk it seems still decent
olive ember
A moment of silence for another power sword i refuse to buy, because fuck that w...
eh get it for power cycler atleast
leaden thunder
so I guess it's just the other 3 classes that have that
safe crystal
eh get it for power cycler atleast
No
safe crystal
Wouldnt be shared, this one is a power sword, illisi is a force sword
olive ember
you don't know that
celest hedge
Communion and flayer helps essence harvest a lot, you have a consistent trigger with flayer and random chance to regen toughness out of nowhere with communion, it would be much better if you could get multiple stacks at once rather than it refreshing
safe crystal
Im pessimistic enough to believe in it
olive ember
maybe they'll one day implement all blessing shared across all weapons
all you have to do is cope
leaden thunder
blazing spirit surge please
safe crystal
Hi int gauntlet mission? Goddamn, anyone up for a spicy run?
leaden thunder
isn't that just hi int?
safe crystal
It has the more specials effect on it as well, is it just hi int?
Oh wait, its light out
Damn, im stupid
celest hedge
I haven’t tried damnation once, should I give it a single try just to see it?
leaden thunder
fuck shock tropper one
olive ember
I haven’t tried damnation once, should I give it a single try just to see it?
can you beat heresy reliably?
celest hedge
It took awhile to warm up to max difficulty verm 2 but I had a lot of fun once I did
safe crystal
Wheres the funny lights out extra snipers missions? 
celest hedge
can you beat heresy reliably?
Overall yeah
leaden thunder
then you can do damn
twilit flicker
there needs to be some kind of sound que for the shock troop one, just like how the dogs have one
leaden thunder
yeah
lime peak
Yeah didn't they have drums for a simialr thing in VT2?
tired estuary
You'll get used to damnation, and the nastiest thing about it (shotgunners) got nerfed anyways
lime peak
Or maybe a horn
leaden thunder
but you learn to get around them or w/e
tired estuary
Yeah p much
olive ember
I mean enemies are tankier and they hit harder
leaden thunder
by about 25%
olive ember
but if you play heresy often then you shouldn't be getting hit anyays
so the only stand out thing is the shooters which strip your toughness in like one burst
still hearth
Shotgunners are still busted.
olive ember
eh
they aren't busted
deadly af yes
but
busted I wouldn't say they are
invisilaser snipers who can shoot you but you cant shoot them tho
amazing
fucking incredible experience
still hearth
That's true.
olive ember
as are poxhound jank where they run past you and then do a back flip onto you
robust relic
the most important thing in Heresy/Damn is to learn to listen for the "there's a guy behind you" noise, sounds like a slashy sound but with audio reversed
leaden thunder
didn't they "fix" dogs again?
olive ember
did they?
stable hare
olive ember
I think its easier to dodge em but
lethal folio
Shotgunner damage was reduced a lot.
olive ember
i mean if your toughness is gone they will still screw you
hearty dagger
Got me a good illisi
olive ember
but toughness DR + falloff means yeah
lethal folio
84 damage on a meatshot, most of the time they will do around 40.
Regular shooters can be that dangerous.
olive ember
I do find it funny how unless you are in the open gunners and reapers are legit less scary than normal shooters
Like even in damnation 5 shots from a gunner only strips me of like 50% toughness
Whereas shooters will just delete it in 3 shots
lime peak
It takes a sec for the Reaper to decide if you're a friend or not okay
tired estuary
I do find it funny how unless you are in the open gunners and reapers are legit ...
Its realistic, like how bosses are less competent than their employees
leaden thunder
though reapers will just eat you alive if they catch you without toughness
faint vault
Best perks for purg?
vestal raven
@faint vault flak/unarmored
olive ember
Best perks for purg?
^^ Run crit chance over one the two above tbh
faint vault
No point in running unarmored, is there? It destroys chaff.
Got one with t4 unyielding. Thinking of keeping that, and getting... crit... or maniacs...
vestal raven
why not do it faster :^)
olive ember
But yeah personally I’d run flak + crit chance or maniac + crit chance ngl
vestal raven
^
faint vault
Yeah
olive ember
idle bay
I wonder why while Gun Psyker is term that you can hear quite often - Gun Zealot is not ?
olive ember
Alright whose the imposter who ratted us out for being sedition gamers
idle bay
Alright whose the imposter who ratted us out for being sedition gamers
At least they did not ratted out T0 Difficulty level...
leaden thunder
leaden thunder
I haven't
leaden thunder
I think at least
stable hare
Dude whats happening on this T5 enclavum baross mission. Failed twice on the first open area . Ogryns rushing out in the open firing and dying, veterans spraying bolters on poxwalkers
leaden thunder
idk If I have even done a hi5 on my psyker
olive ember
Dude whats happening on this T5 enclavum baross mission. Failed twice on the fir...
Unluck
stable hare
others cant melee and take like half hp damage from 2 poxs
olive ember
The pug experience be like that
leaden thunder
also thanks hadron
stable hare
Dude i've never experienced this before
leaden thunder
got me an almost perfect curio
olive ember
I’d say welcome to darktide but that’s just how literally any coop experience is like once you’ve played enough
stable hare
got me an almost perfect curio
is that on psyker?
leaden thunder
ye
leaden thunder
stable hare
what does toughness regen speed affect exactly and is it good?
stable hare
does it affect quietitude?
leaden thunder
unfortunately it doesn't effect anything other then just the normal coherency regen
so it's not as good on psyker since quietude can control your toughness really well
ornate hamlet
lol
