psyker-class

[feral verge]

but you lose all stacks if you miss

[spice veldt]

or block

[strange swallow]

Just trying the deimos out in psyk- is it just more single target dps to do light + heavy than any charged attack?

Also- is there any way to do a charged version of the second attack in the heavy chain?

[west galleon]

Are mods available on steam or do you have to install them manually / over Nexus?

[steel flame]

install them manuelly

there is modding sever

[lethal folio]

A lot of the time yes, heavy stab is much damage.

[steel flame]

they have instructions

[near gale]

Not sure how I feel about this force sword...

[west galleon]

The drag&drop is easy but i am lazy enough to consider not modding

[near gale]

Alternatively I can get this from Melk

[summer prairie]

@strange swallow activated H2 does same damage as activated H1

[wide tiger]

Prefer the top one but have to see what it rolls on legendary

i would get both tbh

[near gale]

I am going to get the 2nd one

I upgraded the 1st one from grey

[west galleon]

Ty for answering

[wide tiger]

Ive just been bricking profanes since yesterday

typical FS life

[steel flame]

i bought 6

got my ifs for life

[wide tiger]

6? 😄

i think i bought like 70

[steel flame]

yessir 😛

[wide tiger]

For a net gain of Zero

[wide tiger]

bye resources!

😦

[steel flame]

oof

[feral verge]

deflector 2

ruined

bad

trash

[steel flame]

its so good at generating peril

free no effort regen

[wide tiger]

Im looking for slaughterer/unstable with unarmoured/flak

for the illisi

[feral verge]

yeah i thought about that

but so is this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpeGwhLdDmY

[near gale]

Personally I would prefer slaughterer and deflector, myself >.>

[feral verge]

slaughterer and deflector is good

[steel flame]

its more for gunker than anything else

[wide tiger]

I freed myself from the shackles of deflector some time ago 😛

[feral verge]

im just saying he only has slaughterer 2, so his sword is ruined and bad

[wide tiger]

gunker deflector is a good way to generate peril i guess

with KD

[wide tiger]

damn

[feral verge]

nice

[wide tiger]

thats pretty much what im going for

lol

[feral verge]

mine

[gilded viper]

They didn’t remove the built in deflector with the hotfix.
Could it be? Intended?

[steel flame]

deflector is literally only there so i can generate more peril from blocking ranged attacks XP and keep the regen train rolling

[cyan notch]

u wish bro

huffing massive amounts of copium

[gilded viper]

A fool can dream.

[feral verge]

if it was intentional it would be on the regular force sword

and the blessing would be removed

and it'd be in the patch notes

[near gale]

built in deflector?

[feral verge]

illisi and deimos have built in deflector, yes

likeley a bug

[gilded viper]

Both of the new force swords have built in deflector

[near gale]

Oh lol

[feral verge]

that's what i was saying earlier

when you got confused

you thought i said getting 2 warp charges from quicken was a bug

[near gale]

Ah

So wait I can block ranged attacks?! XD

[feral verge]

for nwo

now

[wide tiger]

FS is quick to fix bugs that help players but ones that are to our detriment often rot

we'll see

Like when they fix it hopefully they fix the 4th light

[gilded viper]

Tbf, it took a minute to remove deflector rez

[near gale]

4th light?

[wide tiger]

yeah apparently the 4th light isnt getting modifiers from the FS or something like that

[glossy granite]

all psyk pose, pretty smooth run

[near gale]

I'm just hacking stuff, not paying attention to the specifics x.x

[snow walrus]

How is the new sword?

[gilded viper]

Both are neat

[feral verge]

there are 2 new swords

[gilded viper]

Really like the Illisi

[snow walrus]

better horde management?

[near gale]

Oh yeah lol

[feral verge]

alot better yes

[gilded viper]

It’s a great horde slayer

[near gale]

Amazing horde management

[feral verge]

illisi is horde clear, deimos is single target armor piercing

[gilded viper]

Like a mini power sword

[snow walrus]

thats hot

[gilded viper]

Deimos is neat too, can 1 shot a crusher

[steel flame]

I think the next patch. Will need quietude by half

[gilded viper]

I don’t see them nerfing quietude

[steel flame]

The only reason they made quell better was to balance WU

[gilded viper]

Essence Battery and Quietude are in fine spots

[steel flame]

If we could sit at 99 indefinitely

Like we used too

[leaden thunder]

my funny haha fire build doesn't seem very good

at least with 3 vets around

[gilded viper]

I dont even know whats good anymore. I just run 112112 and wing it, peril resistance is overrated

[leaden thunder]

I am testing wrack and ruin with ab and wild fire

not using purge

I think it wouldn't be terrible if i had a "good" blazing spirit truama or void

but the only blazing spirit weapon I have is my funny haha crit sword

[gilded viper]

Ah. Well yah, vets certainly have good elite killing, might be hard to proc wrack and ruin

I wouldn’t mind a good blazing spirit trauma staff

[leaden thunder]

god both my force sword

old ones

are so sad

[gilded viper]

What’s the point of Obscurus now?
I feel like the specialized fs are better than the general one

[leaden thunder]

yeah

makes them even more sad

one is a 380

with garbage perks and locked t1 sluaghterer

the other one

is actually not bad

I jsut need a higher tier sluaghterer to put on it in place of blazing spirit

it's 378

both of these are from pre crafting patch

[gilded viper]

I’m still farming for a t3 or 4 slaughterer. Painful so far

[main hare]

does warp absorption proc from soul blaze kills?

[leaden thunder]

my psyker is really poor

but I am gonna power through

[gilded viper]

That the peril drain on kill? I’m pretty sure, as long as you get the kill credit

[leaden thunder]

and get some good shit

[ornate hamlet]

alrighty which of the force swords is the best one

[gilded viper]

Probably Illisi, Deimos isn’t bad at all, but I currently struggle to see the point of Obscuros

[main hare]

it's gain 10% toughness on kill, I'll have to test when I get home

[spice veldt]

I'd say Illisi, though since all our staffs are CC, it's still a tossup

[ornate hamlet]

whats the best blessings for the illisi?

[gilded viper]

Slaughterer Unstable

[ornate hamlet]

bet

thanks

[gilded viper]

Or slaughterer Bloodthirsty if you somehow got it

[craggy valve]

If I only ever used the force sword for deflector and using the charged attack on specials, Should I be looking to replace my Obscurus with a Deimos?

[gilded viper]

Probably, if you aren’t using your melee at all.
Might as well go all in on elite slaying

[neat sand]

I'm wondering if blazing and bloodthirsty would make a nice illisi FS

[leaden thunder]

it'd be funny

idk about good

[spice veldt]

not really, since crits don't improve your cleave

i guess for killing elites it would be good with soulblaze ticking on them

[gilded viper]

The trick with the Deimos is using H2 for your charged attacks, Light 1 miss into Heavy 2 might be the combo for that, but there might be something quicker idk.

[craggy valve]

What makes H2 so good? Just more damage?

[neat sand]

Was thinking backing it up with fire spec and flame staff all the extra warp stacks

[gilded viper]

Yes a notable amount more than h1

[craggy valve]

Good to know

[primal plume]

Psyker with kinetic deflection is pretty good at tanking the boss

i just went into a corner and held right click

[snow scaffold]

You didn't take any health damage?

[gilded viper]

Yah. I still prefer a shieldgryn for tanking Daemonhosts tho

[primal plume]

only time I took damage was from a random mob hitting me when i went to attack the boss after his shield broke

[craggy valve]

Yeah, KD with perils block and decent force resistance can just tank an absurdly long time

Spam force push and you can wade through crowds to rescue people too

[snow scaffold]

Hmm I never thought to use force push to get through crowds and rescue

[craggy valve]

Though just don't make the mistake if thinking your teammates are similarly invincible when you pull them up. I once accidentally killed a teammate when I wasnt paying attention by reviving him twice in the middle of a horde

[fresh reef]

What's the general consensus on Wildfire?

[fallen lily]

Can Trauma staff not be nullified by every stupid fucking small crack in the goddamn ground?

[primal plume]

its fun

I was fighting a boss on difficulty 4 last night and I was killing enemies I was nowhere near

fire kept bouncing off enemies

[craggy valve]

Wildfire seems like it makes soulfire viable on non-purgatus builds

[gilded viper]

Wildfire seems neat, as it keeps the flames around to weaken enemies. On purge tho, I’d still say go with Warp Battery

[fresh reef]

Think I'm gonna try pairing it with Quicken and Surge for a sorta support joat

[primal plume]

Warp battery and quicken with psychic communion is fun as hell

[fresh reef]

Yeah, warp battery is just too good to pass up with AB

[primal plume]

ulting with 6 stacks basically makes your ult CD like 6 seconds

[fresh reef]

Living shooter suppression device

[gilded viper]

7 stacks of Soulflame instantly is just so good.

[fresh reef]

It's 7 stacks?

[gilded viper]

AB always applies 1 plus your warp charges

[fresh reef]

Huh, neat

[near wyvern]

Good for Trauma, Mediocre for Void. Not really useful for Purge check Atheneum entry for it for why.

[fresh reef]

Surge?

[gilded viper]

Surge doesn’t get any easy procs of soulflame

Weird how the crit staff doesn’t get the crit flames blessing, but whatever

[fresh reef]

Ah well, not particularly going for synergy anyhow

Back in my experimental phase

[near wyvern]

Incorrect

It's 1/1/2/3/4/5/6 stacks of soulblaze for 0/1/2/3/4/5/6 warp charges consumed

[smoky fractal]

lol i think soulfire is bugged cause im getting other psyker's soulfire kills as stacks

and i dont have the coherency feat on

[near wyvern]

Psychic communion?

[smoky fractal]

yeah im using laceration

[near wyvern]

Will need investigation

@smoky fractal can you screenshot the exact talents you were using?

[willow hazel]

Unless you are running Autopistol, then 4 stacks is plenty

[smoky fractal]

i just logged off, i am using blaze

but ill be in melee and havent used my ult

[summer prairie]

that's normal

[leaden thunder]

you been using it with wrak on the truama build?

[night violet]

Coming back from a break with this update. Have the newly added conditions helped with any penances? Specifically out with a bang. On paper it seems like it’s better because more elites but idk how it plays out

[smoky fractal]

i feel the special on the horde clear fs is underwhelming?

[willow hazel]

You can one shot ragers and flamers now with Warp Unleased and 6 Warp Charges.

[smoky fractal]

but ps sets a high bar its kinda hard to beat

[willow hazel]

Should make pick n mix easier

[summer prairie]

it's pretty much exactly like the power sword in terms of damage and cleave

[smoky fractal]

huh maybe i need to pay attention more

feels like i hit 3 and it falls off

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's normal for AB

[near wyvern]

Spirit Nexus Trauma

[leaden thunder]

are you using wrak as well or just that

[willow hazel]

What do people think is the best 2nd blessing for Illisi?

[gilded viper]

The lower damage can be made up for between Warp Unleashed and warp charges, plus slaughterer and Unstable.
Illisi is fun, deimos is neat. Still gotta figure out Obscuros’ place in the world

[leaden thunder]

also finally tested the new force sword for myself

and damn

I like both

[gilded viper]

Probably unstable, slaughterer is still king.

[near wyvern]

My build is 312132

[smoky fractal]

Executor slaughterer deimos seems good

[willow hazel]

Doesn't unstable just provide 5% power at 100% peril? Or is the description off

[gilded viper]

5% per 20 peril

[near wyvern]

Not really when you consider you have spammable infinite cleave stagger for push and infinite dodges. And you can put Deflector on it and run KD to be incredibly stupid with your positioning and still get away with it.

[fierce sinew]

trusting the in-game descriptions for anything still

[umbral jetty]

I find bringing a gun with flashlight special is really funny as psyker for the darkness missions.

[fierce sinew]

must be new

[gilded viper]

I mean with the change to Warp Unleashed, gun psyker got a pretty credible damage boost

[near wyvern]

This is why I created Atheneum in the first place. When the patch hit I didn't take their word for shit. I tested each change listed.

[fierce sinew]

every psyker did tbf

[umbral jetty]

It was just goofy that I wanted to test the new illisi sword, but ended up just holding a flashlight for the team the majority of the mission

[gilded viper]

Yah, but gun psyker is now less of a meme

[fierce sinew]

warp unleashed antax is a laugh and a half

[umbral jetty]

is the 10% from warp unleashed at 0%?

[gilded viper]

Yes?

[smoky fractal]

Nice, I thought I got stuck with deflector when I locked it lol

[umbral jetty]

Wasn't sure if the scaling started at something like 20% peril

[leaden thunder]

I think I am gonna be a big brave psyker and go into damn

I do it pretty much exclusively on my other characters

but on my psyker

[gilded viper]

High intensity damnation is so fun

[leaden thunder]

oh I know

my psyker is jsut

really really undergeared imo

[smoky fractal]

Shock trooper or whatever is way more fun

[fierce sinew]

Hi5 is the game, the rest is tutorial

[gilded viper]

Like damnation is such a blast, other than the sudden bit of lag you get when 3 bombers spawn at once

[leaden thunder]

I know

I just haven't touched it on my psyker

and heresy is a little too slow at geting stuff for my liking

[gilded viper]

I want ventilation purge with snipers

Let’s just hate everything

[leaden thunder]

see that sounds kinda fun

but in the lights out with more dogs kinda fun

[gilded viper]

The “fun” dwarves are most familiar with

[fierce sinew]

heresy is also in a weird spot where there are a lot of people there to level, and a bunch of others doing penances

[leaden thunder]

yep

[fierce sinew]

so it's easy to get a pug group who want different things and don't get along

[smoky fractal]

If I’m running illisi what do I run for ranged? Cause I’m running surge but it feels redundant? Or no?

[leaden thunder]

I mean

from what I understand it's till pretty well rounded

[gilded viper]

I mean anything works.
I like Illisi with Purge myself.

[leaden thunder]

wait lighting staff

100% use illlisi

[gilded viper]

Illisi is really good

[leaden thunder]

thing has no horde clear

so you need a horde clear melee

imo

[gilded viper]

A horde focused Surge mk would be cool af

[feral verge]

Illisi with purga SOUNDS like it's redundant, but I've been running it too and it feels really good

[gilded viper]

Just lightning everything

[feral verge]

The special heavy does a lot of single target dmg

[leaden thunder]

surge that could roll blazing spirit sounds cool af

why fs

that sounds so fun

esp with the new talent

[gilded viper]

Yah, that’s why we dont get it

Ima huff that copium until they remove our inherent deflector on the new swords too

[leaden thunder]

you guys think an illisi with good stats but 30ish mobility is worth upgrading or no?

[smoky fractal]

-minus sprint is a pet peeve for me

[gilded viper]

I use Illisi to move around like a madman. I’d loathe a low mobility on it

[leaden thunder]

I figured and mobility that low is painful on any melee

[gilded viper]

Unlimited dodge with a special that doesn’t stick

[leaden thunder]

shame becuase it has like

almost 80 in all other stats

I honestly liked the deimos move set as well

[gilded viper]

Yah Deimos is fun.

[leaden thunder]

might be fun with the horde clear staves

[gilded viper]

I was thinking Deimos with Trauma on a quicken build might be fun.

[leaden thunder]

quicken not shit anymore?

[smoky fractal]

Wtf is obscure or whatever supposed to be now

[gilded viper]

I mean it’s still probably worse than barrage or ab, but you won’t need to bb elites if you can just 1 shot them all.

It could work with barrage too

[smoky fractal]

Cause the 2 new fs are clearly defined

[gilded viper]

That’s what I’ve been saying.
General purpose weapons just suck, unless their stats are absurd, hi power sword

[smoky fractal]

Give it an aoe

Lol

[gilded viper]

Aoe force attack would be cool af

[smoky fractal]

It’ll give it a reason to stand out

[gilded viper]

Make it special attack much safer than Deimos to justify the lower damage, be a neat little niche

[smoky fractal]

Glad psyker got some good stuff this patch

[gilded viper]

Just like a mini trauma knockback aoe when you attack with it

[smoky fractal]

Zealot got shafted with the new hammer

[gilded viper]

So I hear

[near crow]

Holy crap the Illisi force sword is great

I haven't touched my psyker since before the first big rebalance patch dropped and with this sword and the BB buffs I actually feel powerful for the first time in 22 levels

[gilded viper]

When fs gives psyker a mini power sword and suddenly their strength launches through the roof

[cyan notch]

not just that

but also warp unleashed and quell buffs

[gilded viper]

The quelling buffs are very nice

[smoky fractal]

There’s actually build diversity now

Soul fire was so Ass before

[gilded viper]

Build diversity? In my co-op rpg?

[near crow]

I'm honestly thinking of switching off Quietitude as my level 5 feat

I'm spending almost 0 time quelling manually but my warp charges are almost always maxed out now

[feral verge]

quietitude is really good

[gilded viper]

Now you can even use soulflame without a purge staff.
Is nice

[feral verge]

especially now

[gilded viper]

Embrace Essence Battery

[fierce sinew]

this is the real shit

warp unleashed went from "I will never use this" to "I will never use anything else" in 1 patch

[near crow]

Does it still apply to passively quelled perils, or is it only manually quelling that refills toughness?

[feral verge]

afaik it applies to all quelling

whether passive, from transfer peril blessing, ect.

[fierce sinew]

the quelling change buffs the hell out of quietude

yes

[feral verge]

afaik quietitude + warp unleashed are the meta now

[gilded viper]

Quietude is all quelling correct

[near crow]

Hmm

[fierce sinew]

you're building more peril from not running tranquility and you're getting rid of it faster because of the quelling change

[near crow]

What's the current go-to for level 15 and 20? I'm still only level 22 on my psyker, burnout hit around the time I started working on him

[feral verge]

idk about levelling

but

[near crow]

Psychic Communion still seems like the best at 15 just from eyeballing it

[spice veldt]

if you're not lvl 25 yet, then you'll probably want to run communion

[feral verge]

purgatus is seen as the best overall staff, afaik

[fierce sinew]

I'm levelling psyker number 4 atm, I put on antax at level 5, purg at 15

[feral verge]

so i'd reccomend purga build

[fierce sinew]

quietude warp unleashed (because you're trolling if you don't use it now) communion KD

[feral verge]

here's what a purga build looks like

[near crow]

I've got a decent-ish purga rn, but with the CC force sword I've found myself rarely using it lmao

[spice veldt]

for lvl 20, it depends; Kinetic Deflection is considered the best

[still hearth]

Kinetic Shield works really well for the Quicken BB build

But I really felt the loss of Deflection when I was using duelling sword and people went down

[fierce sinew]

quicken

[feral verge]

kinetic shield is good quality of life, especially now because higher incentive to run high peril. BUT, it does not clutch. kinetic deflection is THE clutch perk. imo clutching is more important than QOL

[fierce sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/jermichael-no-urn-spray-bottle-spray-gif-13258723

[still hearth]

Quicken is uniroincally useable now

[feral verge]

kinetic deflection will let you rez ppl mid horde all day

[still hearth]

Is it better than the others? NO

But its at least not garbage

You can have 100% uptime with BBing constantly

[near crow]

Having more builds be at least viable is nice

[still hearth]

The combo with Quietitude and Quicken and 3x BB putting you up is fun to play with even if its not great

Since you go up to 100%, then get ult back, repeatedly

[fierce sinew]

6 charge barrage is too juiced now for BB builds I think, if there are any elites around to farm with aura it's probably about the same cd lmao

[still hearth]

The times I try that some Veteran shows up out of nowhere

And makes sure I get 0 of the lites

[fierce sinew]

killing crushers in 2 BB is pretty vet safe but yeah

vet a shit, click glowing head

[near crow]

You can get mutants pretty easy now as well

[still hearth]

But the Quicken thing is fun to do. And if you're two Psykers you can infinitely stagger hordes

[near crow]

Also, is it just me or does Battle Meditation proc more often now?

[still hearth]

I haven't noticed any difference

[cyan notch]

i notice its procs more now

but then again i wasnt really paying attention before

[still hearth]

Is it because you guys run Quietitude though?

Since now it actually gives toughness

I only really noticed it when using Purg anyway

[near crow]

Maybe

[cyan notch]

nah im not looking at my toughness im staring at my peril to not blow up

since without inner tranq that shit goes up fast

[still hearth]

Oh yeah. I miss Inner Tranq a bit but

25% damage is 25% damage

[cyan notch]

1 shotting flamers ragers and bursters is too good to give up

[still hearth]

And when quelling takes 2 seconds

[cyan notch]

and whatever crusher reaper bps

[still hearth]

From 100% peril

Its kinda like

[near crow]

Yeah

Especially with the new force swords being actually good

[austere estuary]

Inner tranq with warp flurry 4 means for me many more casts at double speed

And those mean even less peril, and even more battle meditation proves

Procs*

Which compound into even more double speed casting

[rare furnace]

Warp flurry reminds me mc flurry am I the only one

[still hearth]

Honestly atm I want more peril

Even more so with Transfer Peril on Void

[austere estuary]

And then ult’s 50% quell means even more effective gain from it

And it keeps the flurry going even longer

[still hearth]

But if you want to run Flurry and Nexus then Inner Tranq is probably better

[cyan notch]

its fine enough just using battle meditation when killing huge hordes

[austere estuary]

Flurry nexus not as bad as it was but not ideal imo since you’ll not be at high for that long, vs a warp unleashed no flurry

If you’re using flurry and unleashed imo it’s missing the potential of both

[still hearth]

I find running Flurry + Transfer peril that I can reliably lie in 60-80% peril

[austere estuary]

Only void maybe

[still hearth]

Oh yeah, on Void.

[austere estuary]

But on trauma, surge, purg, the choice should be either flurry OR unleash

[cyan notch]

nah

warp unleashed buffs fs and bb too

[still hearth]

Idk why you wouldn't run Unleash though

[viral solstice]

i can get 100% peril just using my feet

[austere estuary]

Yes but your flurry is going to go unused

[still hearth]

It's always 10%+ damage

You can

[cyan notch]

1 shotting flamers ragers bursters mutants

[still hearth]

Proc Flurry

[cyan notch]

etcetc

[still hearth]

Without using your charge

Either by using the LMB shot or special strikes

Then swap to charging

[austere estuary]

Because casting 20, 30+ times at twice the speed is a lot more damage and cc

[still hearth]

Sure but Flurry is still

The best option

It also reduces casting cost

[cyan notch]

flurry still comes into play when youre flaming huge hordes you can quell a ton from battle meditation

[austere estuary]

You’re only going to get maybe a fraction of its benefit

[still hearth]

So if you max stack flurry, regardless of other things

You reduce the charge cost by 50%

And charge 50% faster

That's always a DPS increase

Which there's really no other options I'd consider stronger than Flurry for other staffs

[austere estuary]

Sort of, but then you’re spending more time not at high peril

So you’re missing benefit there

Like I said, you water potential on both when using together

[still hearth]

Ah, yeah.

I agree, but I don't think that's an issue.

[austere estuary]

Waste not water

[cyan notch]

u still get 10% at 0

[austere estuary]

It’s not terrible

At all

[still hearth]

Inner Tranquil definitely is just an upside and 0 brain to use.

[austere estuary]

But probably a lot better to max one

[still hearth]

Just have 6 stacks.

And you can spam

[cyan notch]

plus its not just about staff damage its about fs and bb breakpoints too

[austere estuary]

It’s got big wins got FS

Esp hordes clear

[still hearth]

Gotta love

That if Psyker had Zealot's weapons

They'd currently outdo Zealot melee damage

Casual 49% damage boost from feats to everything.

[wide tiger]

yeah true

[shadow onyx]

epic

[wide tiger]

at least psykers are getting more cannon along with their glass

[spice veldt]

the two zealots survived and we managed to beat the map

all's well that ends well

[wide tiger]

quicken gives health back?

[still hearth]

They mean toughness.

And you really should have it on a 9s CD. Imagine not running 6 stacks with Quicken smh.

[wide tiger]

i see

[still hearth]

Actually 7.5s with 6 stacks.

[wide tiger]

gotta get 6 stacks in 8s then

[still hearth]

Which you can do now.

Since the Quicken changes

You get the last 2 stacks if you BB off snap by the time it goes off cooldown

But it does push you over 100%

So you have to shout again, or quell a bit to keep ult

[fierce sinew]

upgrading gray deimos just to experiment with it and got bloodthirsty

lmao

hadron mocking me

purg warp nexus never

[cold geode]

She did that shit to me with the other new fs

[hot tulip]

it finally happened

we got buffed and BB is useful now

[late yew]

Psyker now top 2 classes?

[late yew]

because of faster vent?

[spice veldt]

presumably because of Warp Unleashed pushing BB to certain breakpoints

[sterile vale]

Shame about the damage stat, oh well

[hot tulip]

can 2 shoot crooshers

[white cedar]

look for new sword and pickout the blessing

[hot tulip]

and quicken infinite BB loop

quicken BB loop is just 👌

chefs kiss

[white cedar]

Fast quell make Trauma staff fun to play now

[late yew]

what level 5 talent is meta? BB one?

[white cedar]

Essence Harvest

[late yew]

void staff also amazing. I had great game with another psyker with void staff. Hordes just did not exist at all.

[hot tulip]

i tested out rykens theory on quicken on damnation but yeah quicken makes BB real good, for reference, see this: https://youtu.be/2eCMWJSdyx0

4:42

idk if he prowls this discord

quicken was the first thing i looked at before the vid and

GOT DAMN

[white cedar]

I think every staff is easier to play now, Thunder and Trauma used to make too much peri for constant combat.

[wide tiger]

.k,/ bvm,.b,/nm vbn

ive upgraded so many god damn fs lol

i still have 2 t4 blessings, and both were from Melk

crazyness

[white cedar]

2 stacks each BB make quicken go brrrrr

[clear linden]

thoguhts on the blazing spirit perk for FS?

[leaden thunder]

very insightful

[wide tiger]

Armoury delivers

20k.. sold

[wide tiger]

I dont think its good, but its fun to try and make it good

[leaden thunder]

gots me a new voidstaff

and I am ready for damn

still not a good staff

but it's better then what I had

[topaz sable]

what's the opinion on wildfire for a purg build? is it worth?

[leaden thunder]

not worth on purge

since it can't put more stack onto an enemy then what they have

[sour bison]

is surge good?

[leaden thunder]

on truma no

[spice veldt]

since it only affects the LMB

[sour bison]

rend \ blaze whan?

[feral verge]

damn

i just played a pub high int damn game with a psyker who blew up no less than 5 times

maybe even around 10 times

im not kidding

only proof i have is his 1.6k dmg taken lol, and his 6 health station uses

[kind jay]

maybe he discovered some sort of forbidden perils build

im probably already in trouble for talking about it

[light pine]

might be going for penance?

[hollow current]

did he stack wound curios too?

[feral verge]

he had one wound curio

he used voice a few times, but his mic was quiet

i think he said something about not being used to his staff, or maybe he was getting used to not using inner tranq

i just remember hearing something like "i'm not used to xxxxxx" the 2nd time he blew up

he was using surge

and actually, now that im looking at his armor

he must already have going out with a bang

so no penance excuse

[stable silo]

lets see your staff

[feral verge]

my build

the staff is downright sexual

[wise pecan]

My thinking with it is that it does effectively the same job as stacking crit on purg - horde enemies dying will quickly equalize and maximize the soulfire stacks across the entire horde, even “prebuilding” them up on enemies you haven’t reached yet. I haven’t tried it on damnation yet, but at least on heresy it works wonders.

It does weaken your ascendant blaze burst potential, though, which is something to consider

[late yew]

Can someone share tier list of psyker weapons?

[feral verge]

i haven't seen an 'official' tierlist from the community

but my staff tierlist would be

1: purga

2: trauma/void

3: surge

as for the forceswords and dueling swords? player preference

[late yew]

I don't get purga

[feral verge]

especially among the forceswords

[late yew]

Seems to do pretty low damage

[feral verge]

look at the scoreboard i just posted

457k

[late yew]

well with first 3 staves it makes sense to take single target weapons, and for surge horde clearing melee

[feral verge]

with purga + AB (ascendant blaze)

[late yew]

do some talents affect purge a lot?

[viral solstice]

I mean

[late yew]

i am only level 17

[feral verge]

purga does lower single target damage. but start stacking soulblaze with crits, and spreading that damage out amongst hordes then it gets ridiculous

yes, feats make a huge difference

[stable hare]

Question about the psyker penance that needs to kill 3 specials/elites by exploding... Does it work on dogs?

[feral verge]

purga is seen as the best staff overall, by many afaik. not just me

[late yew]

oh, so that's probably why

When should you use left click with it?

[feral verge]

left click seems useless at first. i thought it was

until

[wise pecan]

Purg left click is primarily a stagger tool to me

[feral verge]

i found out it stuns

so if i need breathing room, i use left click

[delicate smelt]

purga left click is great for creating space between you and whatever's ahead of you except monstrosities ofc

[feral verge]

or i charge shooters with it

so they stop shooting

[tired notch]

Should I change carp for Crit chance? Anything else?

[wise pecan]

I use it mostly against dogs, pox bursters, or other enemies that I need to make sure they stop what they’re doing before flaming

[feral verge]

carapace dmg sucks on voidstrike

ideal would be flak dmg + unarmored damage

ideal blessings would be transfer peril + warp flurry

[untold haven]

Yo I’m a veteran main and was hoping you guys can help me suck less on my level 17

[wise pecan]

“Should I change carp for Christ chance” was a very interesting sentence

[untold haven]

Is there a bread and butter all around spec and loadout that you’d suggest?

[feral verge]

purga staff (fire staff) is considered the best overall staff

so with that knowledge, i would reccomend a build that revolves around that

[wise pecan]

I’d say a good “acclimating to psyker” build is probably surge and illisi

[tired notch]

Bless you siblings

[feral verge]

i run the purga staff on high int damnation, and it fucks

[untold haven]

Are there multiple variants of the purga?

[feral verge]

nope, just the one

[untold haven]

Suggested talents?

[feral verge]

i dont personally like the surge staff because the damage is not good

yes, the staff CCs, but the other staves CC and kill shit

and a dead enemy is a permanently CC'd enemy

[feral verge]

what i just posted

[wise pecan]

It’s def primarily a support tool, but it still does good damage vs flak. I’ve heard good things about stacking crit and warp flurry on it, too, since that’s been fixed

[feral verge]

it relies on your team to kill shit, which i dont personally like

i feel a more self sustaining staff is more viable

in a premade group with high coordination, that's where surge could shine

[delicate smelt]

stun with surge, Q to Illisi, heavy 1 , repeat

[wise pecan]

Eh, I don’t have any difficulties with it on pubs

[feral verge]

my argument against it is

why use it when purga exists

cuz purga can stagger and do 2 or even 3x the damage

[wise pecan]

Because it stuns shooters that are in cover and purg doesn’t

[feral verge]

it doesnt stun muties and shit but

purg can do that with lmb

[wise pecan]

LMB doesn’t go though walls

Surge does

[feral verge]

goes above cover, like boxes

[delicate smelt]

purga is one of my favorites and i dont really like to be stunbot either, but always purga every game gets boring, its time to switch it up eventually.

[feral verge]

ive seen the fire cloud catch shit on fire around walls

and ascendant blaze goes through walls

[late yew]

photo of monitor. cringe.

[untold haven]

Is blaze force sword worth?

[feral verge]

Rate my weapon @late yew

[wise pecan]

Fair

[late yew]

[feral verge]

technically they are all blaze force swords

[untold haven]

Monitor is in the warp

[delicate smelt]

that looks like warp peril

[wise pecan]

I’d say that the specialized force swords, properly build, are probably better?

[feral verge]

there is the obscurus (the default one), then the two new ones: illisi and deimos

[untold haven]

Illisi

[feral verge]

yeah it fucks

[untold haven]

Nice

Thz

Thx*

[wise pecan]

It’s a purgatus, so probably A tier

[feral verge]

it's built as a horde clear but it does good enough single target damage

[delicate smelt]

illisi is great for cleaving, not so much for single target

[spice veldt]

though it can stagger ragers out of their combos which is good nuff in my book

[feral verge]

i two shot muties with mine

illisi has two things going for it, over the other two single target swords

1: you can spam chain the charge special, to generate peril

[wide tiger]

shredder pistol feels like king if you can get the ammo

[feral verge]

2: your special attack does not get stuck in enemies, so you are not left vulnerable

[near wyvern]

IFS is top tier damage now so surge works because you can just swing the sword if there are no elites and specials near

[wise pecan]

I do quite enjoy the deimos, although the moveset does make the charge generally awkward. I wish the heavy thrust was immediately accessible, rather than the first heavy being a slash

Alternatively, I also wish that the light heavy light heavy cycle was just thrusts

[leaden thunder]

can the fucken shop

stop giving me ilis

[wise pecan]

Rather than the lights switching to pointless overhead slashes

[leaden thunder]

with amazing everything then like sub 35% mobility

[near wyvern]

Yeah that sword got a bit cucked with the moveset positioning. They should just make the heavy heavy combo have 2 identical heavies like the 2nd one. Also the special is useless because 2nd heavy does half the damage but with no animation lock and you can get to it quite fast with light heavy cancel.

[feral verge]

Yeah the special is lack luster on Deimos

[wide tiger]

would rather than that just 320~ stats

[leaden thunder]

they are 330

so not much better

[wise pecan]

Is there a way to quickly cancel to repeat light/heavy thrusts? I’m finding trying to block cancel is awkward, but I’m not sure if that’s just user error or if there’s a better way

[wide tiger]

This is my best contender after about 100

and i got this from the armoury not brunts

as blue

[leaden thunder]

I feel that

I just bought one with shred 2

becuase I am tired of my normal force swords

[wide tiger]

yeah

Hadron bossfight when

[near wyvern]

You can either block cancel or qq cancel. Also if you do push into heavy it should chain to the 2nd attack (useful if elite with trash)

[leaden thunder]

also quickening is super nice

[near wyvern]

With block cancel you just gotta learn the timing

[leaden thunder]

tried it in my first psyker damn

was suepr helpful

[wise pecan]

It’s nice that we actually have build diversity now lol

[leaden thunder]

tbh

I think psyker is the only class that has real build diversity

in terms of talents

[rare furnace]

Guys

Crit is double the damage?

The value looks less to me

[spice veldt]

depends on the weapon

[leaden thunder]

^

[rare furnace]

Ah

[leaden thunder]

some times crits are good

on some weapons they suck ass

[wise pecan]

No idea. Some weapons have unique effects, like purgatus stacks double on crits

[spice veldt]

for example, the Force Swords and Combat Blade have high crit dmg multipliers

[rare furnace]

Illiisi crit good ?

Nice

[leaden thunder]

good enough that shred isn't wasted but not good enough to take crit chance

[spice veldt]

though that scales with their Finesse stat

[wide tiger]

a 375 from brunts!!!!

Oh.. Wait..

😦

[feral verge]

😔

[rare furnace]

This is mine

[near wyvern]

Yes and no. We got some build diversity on the 6th column, all 3 are usable and we also got a purpose for middle slot of 5th column, although it's only really useful with blazing spirit void and trauma.

However we completely lost build diversity of the first two columns because the quelling changes and battle mediation fix makes quietitude better than essence harvest even with BB builds and WU is insanely strong to pick anything else over it. It's a single talent that just outright guarantees you can two shot Bulwarks with BB no matter what and you can reach 1 shots easy for flamers ragers and bursters as well, on top of the other damage benefits it provides.

[wide tiger]

Yeah WU dwarfs the other options

[viral solstice]

but if u are a fan of rap u already knew that

respect the wu

[rose lily]

would it be better to replace %8 ranged damage with %25 flak damage or replace unyielding with something?

[celest hedge]

I still like tranquality alot but warp unleashed is just so much more generally good and doesn't require any other feat choices to get the most value of

[wide tiger]

Can the ilisi get by with low first target due to its massive aoe or does it hurt too much

[spice veldt]

if you only care about hordeclear

[near wyvern]

As long as you have 150 or more on lights against poxwalker heads it's candy town.

Which should be like on any decent roll.

[lime peak]

Finally making a Psy and I have to say its always been hard picking between the voices for the classes I really love them all, but I'm def having a hard time now lol.

[wide tiger]

I mean with 61 FT im not in the 86/130 range, but im hoping thats not huge diff

[feral verge]

I advise against the male seer psyker

[near wyvern]

Don't stress about it. Once you get to 30 you will anyways be fed up with your choice and wished you went with the other option. Then you accept your defeat and just stick with your choice.

[hollow current]

I like the female savant

[wide tiger]

I still love loner psyker

[feral verge]

Why? Because the worst psykers I play with in pubs are usually male seers. Idk why lmao

But that's my experience

[wide tiger]

male loner never gets tired for me, he speaks my inner dialogue

[celest hedge]

I only like loner of the male voices but I like all the female voices a lot

[feral verge]

I am female loner gang

[near wyvern]

Oh well, I just hang with my homie beloved now.

[celest hedge]

Loners also have the best shouting ult lines in the game

[feral verge]

The best psykers I've seen tend to be male savant

[celest hedge]

“I CAN’T CONTROL IT”

[feral verge]

THE best psyker I've encountered was male savant

[tacit tide]

a force sword with sweeping attack patterns!?

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-woooo-yeah-baby-gif-24480925

[lime peak]

Ohh I'm not stressing much just joking, was going female Seer but the name I want is bugged so the character has collapsed lol. Still stuck between Seer and Savant but Loner is still nice just doesn't fit the new char.

[rose lily]

would it be better to replace %8 ranged damage with %25 unarmored or replace unyielding with something?

[celest hedge]

Seer is the Sienna sounding one like? That’s what I went with, I like female savant too

[lethal folio]

Seer voice encourages me to make wild choices.

[celest hedge]

i like talking with my Beloved alot

[feral verge]

Female seer is rare so that's a plus

[wise pecan]

Female seer is so rare I honestly can’t remember what she sounds like

[celest hedge]

"It looks like we're playing a game of who has the most rot lung, (I don't like this game)"

[near wyvern]

You have to decide for yourself, if you want to know how the soulblaze deals damage against different armour types go check the Atheneum section 5

[gilded viper]

What perks are getting run on Illisi? Flak and Unarmored/Infested?

[near wyvern]

Doesn't matter. It slaps.

[rose lily]

what's Atheneum section 5?

[feral verge]

Flak and maniac imo

But it slaps by default, like pygex said

[near wyvern]

Check pinned messages, the steam guide link, open it. Table of Contents. Section 5. Go there.

[leaden pier]

what perks and blessings would you guys reccomend for the deimos fs?

[feral verge]

Maniac and carapace

[unborn drift]

is crit worth anything on purgatus? and what perk should i aim for on it?

[feral verge]

Perk is worth while on purgatus

I got 1.5k criticals with mine on my last game

[unborn drift]

uuuh I meant nexus not crit sorry

oh damn

[leaden pier]

crit chance is good on purge because it applies more stacks of soul blazes

[late yew]

How much damage 4 stacks of soulblaze do? Level 10 talent

[unborn drift]

aaaah that answers it then

[unborn drift]

barrage for flurry and infested for crit if i can?

[feral verge]

Keep Infested, lose unyielding for crit

[near wyvern]

Depends on target. Check pinned messages, Psyker Atheneum. Open it, Section 5, there are all numbers you ask for.

[unborn drift]

ty!

[feral verge]

And yes get rid of barrage for flurry

[hollow current]

first I've seen these missions

[wise pecan]

I’d keep barrage? Helps if you get surrounded. Seems better than flurry, anyways

[hollow current]

Imagine high intensity shock troops 💀

[spice veldt]

o shit the dual modifiers are back up

[near wyvern]

Flames already supress without killing, Warp Flurry + Warp Nexus is best in slot.

[feral verge]

Nah

Purga already suppresses

[wise pecan]

If I were a quadruple amputee, I could still count on my fingers the number of times I have needed to charge faster after having already dumped a charge

[near wyvern]

And if you need more CC just do a couple LMB puffs

[late yew]

Thanks

[lime peak]

It is really intense and fun I loved it, I'm new and didn't know you can get multiple witches or at least I'm pretty sure it was a 2nd one. It was really dark and everything was everywhere lol.

[feral verge]

Warp flurry doesn't just help cast time

It reduces peril cost

[late yew]

So which psyker weapon has highest damage on boss?

Or BB always better?

[lime peak]

srry witch fruedian I mean Host

[spice veldt]

purg has an edge over BB on all bosses
trauma is always good against the Beast of Nurgle since it takes extra damage from explosions
the Illisi's special deals extra damage against Unyielding

[feral verge]

for staves: purgatus

[late yew]

illisi?

[delicate smelt]

barrels

[feral verge]

new force sword

the horde clear sword

[delicate smelt]

psyker should carry barrels.

[near wyvern]

BB with WU + CL and a full battery

[delicate smelt]

its nice to see that exploding barrels do damage this time instead of just sending you off cliffs.

[near wyvern]

Why? Psyker is a barrel. 🤯

[delicate smelt]

thats true i didnt remember that.

[feral verge]

this reads like a crab post

[late yew]

WU? CL? Battery?

[near wyvern]

Warp Unleashed, Cerebral Lacerations, Warp Battery

[delicate smelt]

warp unleashed, warp battery, cerebral lac

[near wyvern]

Feats

[delicate smelt]

oh.

[rose lily]

cheeers

[late yew]

Is special ability on single target force sword worth using? While it does tons of damage, you are so unsafe while it procs

[wide tiger]

seeing so many FS in shop now its so nice

[spice veldt]

the single-target specials do 200% damage against flak, so there's that

[delicate smelt]

use it to one shot dogs pouncing someone or just molest mutants grabbing a team member for example.

[late yew]

I was trying to use it on maulers, crushers, bulwarks

[wide tiger]

sounds about right

[delicate smelt]

yeah you can also do that if you can dodge the attack after

[late yew]

but it seems special charge of aoe force sword actually even better at single target dps because it happens almost instantly?

[near wyvern]

It's one of those moves that you only ever use if you are already extremely safe. The only situation is basically a lone crusher that you want to stun lock to make sure it doesn't slap your team. But very rarely. Stun lock moves are extremely bad in the game and should either:

• be completely removed
• reward something special for taking the risk (like a warp charge for psyker DFS and OFS specials)

[wide tiger]

Yeah its a finisher

as in

one lone target

[late yew]

so it is same for chainswords?

[wide tiger]

and you're cleaning up

or a mutant while your team is insulated

etc

[spice veldt]

the single-target special has better stagger than the chainsword special

[near wyvern]

When you do light heavy on DFS it deals almost the same damage as the special but comes out faster and doesn't lock you in place so you can still bail out if the situation changes.

[vagrant hollow]

guys is wildfire good pick with purgatus staff or should I stick with kinetic flayer? 🤔

[wide tiger]

Chain weapons are just in a bad place in general right now

[late yew]

oh?

I thought some are high tier

[delicate smelt]

also a good idea to use it on a trapper that shot a net recently as they wont attack until reload, most likely just run away or towards you.

[wide tiger]

due to their blessing pool being really bad and their movesets not being great. Chainaxe at least has slaughterer headtaker

I wouldnt rank chain weapons high tier but thats me

[near wyvern]

It's not. Stick with KF with PA otherwise use WB.

[leaden thunder]

chainsword is ok

on zealot mainly

[wise pecan]

Wildfire is better than kinetic flayer, but the meta is 6 charges + AB for purgatus

[wide tiger]

for me its Psword, Hsword, Bull butcher. I have not used the 2 news force swords as of yet

[leaden thunder]

the aoe one

even with just shred and a purple

was really good for me

[wide tiger]

I believe it

im hearing good things all around

[feral verge]

@near wyvern thoughts on running exorcist + WU + quietude + unstable power

[leaden thunder]

we did lose

but that's probably becuase we had 3 psykers

[feral verge]

using exorcist to generate quietitude toughness ?

[leaden thunder]

and got overwhlemed

[feral verge]

feasible or dumb?

[leaden thunder]

it isn't

not feaible

but idk if it's worth

[wide tiger]

I dont think it works on exorcist

[feral verge]

i'd only consider it on illisi

[wide tiger]

but i havent tested since they fixed battle med

[near wyvern]

Exorcist is a bit meh since the quelling is so good.

[feral verge]

because peril generation is easy

on it

[vagrant hollow]

rly? could you give me some build because i didnt know 6 charges were meta

[feral verge]

this is my most OP build + a high int damnation scoreboard to show it off

[fierce sinew]

311112

[delicate smelt]

these changes to peril quelling made Quell Speed on staves even more of a dump stat

[wise pecan]

Meta is probably quelling toughness + peril damage + free warp charges + peril block + 6 stacks + AB for purgatus

[gloomy yarrow]

What are good perks for purgatus staff

[wise pecan]

Crit chance, damage for flavor (I’d go flak)

[feral verge]

i wouldnt go flak, but rather unarmored

[delicate smelt]

crit chance is good, crit damage not really. make sure you have crit chance if you land it.

[feral verge]

because purga already does bonus damage to flak

crit dmg is bad yeah

[celest hedge]

you can already grind through unarmored/infected enemies pretty well

[vagrant hollow]

ok gonna try, ty

[wise pecan]

Unarmored seems redundant? Flamer already melts unarmored. Maulers are flak, and take longer. Plus, more bonuses = exponentially better

[celest hedge]

any bit helps but you chew through trash pretty nicely as is

[feral verge]

would rather clear the general horde quicker

[wise pecan]

I would rather clear mixed specials faster rather than just “win more” on enemies that are already irrelevant

[wet jacinth]

[spice veldt]

prob prioritize +maniac since flak enemies take 2x damage from soulblaze

[feral verge]

yeah maniac not a bad call either

[leaden thunder]

wierd take

but perhaps

[wise pecan]

Maniac is definitely a good call too

[leaden thunder]

unyielding

[feral verge]

nah

[leaden thunder]

many zealots run it on thier flamers

but idk how numerically different the flamer and purgatus are

[wise pecan]

Unyielding for bosses, maybe, but I find reapers are rarely in purgatus range (if they are, then they’re already more-or-less a solved problem)

[leaden thunder]

the idea for it on the flamer is that everything else dies really quickly already

[wise pecan]

I think regular fire does more damage than soulfire

[leaden thunder]

again I am taking flamer logic an applying it to the purgatus so idk how applicable it is

[wise pecan]

I probably wouldn’t go unyielding. Too niche

[delicate smelt]

lets not forget monstrosities are unyielding, except traitor captain who is flak.

[leaden thunder]

that was kinda the idea yeah

[fierce sinew]

it's a lot better to have unyielding on your melee weapon

your soulblaze gets boosted while you're hitting them, which is what you're usually doing with monstros anyway

[spice veldt]

and you're prob swapping between purg and BB

[fierce sinew]

purging up to max stacks and then melee is what I do, for BB to be efficient I think you need to be either on lacerations, barrage or both

but if you are yeah pop off

[feral verge]

maybe im crazy

[leaden thunder]

you are a psyker

it's implied

[feral verge]

but im gonna try this as a quietitude - toughness generating device

true

[late yew]

i wonder, what is your reason for maining psyker, guys

[spice veldt]

brain burst

[fierce sinew]

quietude is so juiced now

[leaden thunder]

I play all classes

[feral verge]

100% the versatility

[leaden thunder]

I am just giving psyker the time it deserves now

[spice veldt]

i was also on hopium that they would release a single-target DPS force staff for psyker in a timely manner

[fierce sinew]

beam staff never

[spice veldt]

i'm also on hopium that such a weapon bypasses the suppression system

[delicate smelt]

we have a fire staff, a lightning staff, but still no ice staff. uninstall.

[leaden thunder]

need another lightning staff tbh

[rigid widget]

Is first target important when you're only hitting one guy?

[feral verge]

first target is v important

[rigid widget]

The wording implies it doesn't do anything unless multiple are hit

[feral verge]

even in a horde

it applies damage to the first target you hit in a horde/group

even if oyu hit multiple in 1 swing

[vestal finch]

Even if you only hit one*

[feral verge]

it also factors in your overall dmg rating on the sword

that's a junk sword unfortunately

[pine relic]

chasm terminus + blackout and dog + three books but I only got a 313 rating knife.

[delicate smelt]

for deimos yes. for an Illisi its the dump stat, youre better off with mobility over first target on it.

[fierce sinew]

does illisi not have a warp res stat

[rigid widget]

Just tested, first target does indeed count for a single dude

[onyx frigate]

What is a good mission to do the "going out with a bang" penance on?

[obtuse moth]

prolly thespecials modifier or hi intensity or a combo i think technically theres one map with guaranteed spawns at a particular point

LMAO you can get the penance with plasma gun on vet?

[onyx frigate]

I assume that was fixed

[late yew]

same

[onyx frigate]

also yeah, but I don't know which map that is

[obtuse moth]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913003049

[onyx frigate]

thanks, that's what I was looking for

[late yew]

oh, you can stack soulblaze infinitely?

So it is kinda like beam staff from vermintide?

[obsidian creek]

any of you lads have a shield ogryn to tank a daemonhost for me? ❤️

[limber silo]

Yo, what kinda bullshit is this "does single target affect one dude?" Obviously, that's the first (and only) target you hit

I feel like my brain spilled out of my ears reading that

[wide tiger]

went to 1 hp

in an assassination

and managed to rez all 3 team mates

KD carry

[late yew]

why play psyker and not use a single special weapon of his...

might as well play vet

[feral verge]

alright

i kinda fuck with this

[wide tiger]

I'm using an Antax V and a shredder

nice

[wide tiger]

Because i can still be a psyker without a force sword and a staff, and still utilize psy wrath and BB

and because ive rolled a god damn metric fuck ton of force swords and still havent gotten one that is worth using over my antax V

[gilded viper]

might be my highest run yet

[feral verge]

i think 457k was the most dmg i've ever dealt

[limber silo]

Akshually we have 2 unique melee weapons

Duelling sword

[fierce sinew]

pretty sure that sword just doesn't exist

[celest hedge]

i used chainweapons for a decent amount of time since purge is good for crowds and sometimes you're not in a good position to BB something, and a bit of tactical axe too but I switched off that to dueling sword mainly due to chaining attacks better

[wide tiger]

i hear the new ones are sick

[fierce sinew]

I've played around with the single target one and it's fine

[gilded viper]

before this update i kinda run dueling/taxe + gun but im weird and hate vet stamina regen vs psyker might as well be instant stamina regen

new force sword + buff make them way more fun now

[fierce sinew]

but if you ask what the reason would be to use it over antax I can't really think of many

[gilded viper]

2 reason

[still hearth]

You don't need stamina if you just mow down everything

[gilded viper]

1. i didn't had a good one on my psyker and was too lazy to make one
2. slow, i got annoyed with badly timing push block and would get hit for it on the Caxe then Taxe

i use it time to time and it slap hard but i kinda prefer taxe more for speed

[fierce sinew]

push block is braindead easy on antax, the mobility ceiling on the swords is higher though yeah

[lethal folio]

Deimos FS is very good, Hard to choose the Obscurus now.

[gilded viper]

have this one now on psyker tho

[gilded viper]

is it? i saw alot of negative stuff about it yesterday in this channel

was confuse since i only been using the illis so far

[viral solstice]

well it was one person saying it was overrated

but as i have pointed out repeatedly all the 3 force swords, especially now, are gucci choices

and marginal differences between them should not obscure (haha) the fact they are all gud

and u can force swordly

ppl get too worried about comparisons between 3 good things when the actual point is that all 3 are gud

[gilded viper]

[viral solstice]

its like when ppl argue about which heavy sword has the best horde clear

theyt all kill 40 poxwalkers in 7 seconds

who gives a fuck

[gilded viper]

they all kinda the same ngl

[wide tiger]

one has finger guards

[viral solstice]

troo

[wide tiger]

important

[viral solstice]

the most important thing

[lethal folio]

All I see the obscurus going for it is the heavy loop, which isn't that much of an advantage.

[viral solstice]

is which weapon is the COOLEST

[wide tiger]

prob the 6

[viral solstice]

[wide tiger]

for hs

[viral solstice]

obviously

its the most naruto

[wide tiger]

i dont know what that means, but i agree

[ornate hamlet]

My new Ryzen came

Here's hoping an upgrade like this will net me a locked 60 FPS

[viral solstice]

im pray

[clear heath]

inb4 game immediately crashes

[twilit comet]

The Illisis force sword. Someone said it has built in deflector. Is that true?

[hollow current]

Both the new ones do yeah

[magic burrow]

one would assume that's a bug

[fresh reef]

really wish these weren't all locked behind mtx

[hollow current]

I wish there was another cosmetic slot for gloves so I can remove those big fuck off fisting mitts.

[ornate hamlet]

Same

I saw a psyker with black fingerless gloves and my inner teenager pointed and whistled

[fresh reef]

I hope this one is gonna be part of a free cosmetic drop cuz holy hell it looks clean

holy shit

[regal musk]

New free cosmetics? Datamined or shown off somewhere?

[glossy hazel]

Career 2 is probably the upcoming soonTM when it is ready to be drip fed psyker class.

[fresh reef]

I'm just using the randomize cosmetics mod, and it pulls every available model

[viral solstice]

what if the new psyker class is just CRAB

what then

all ur cosmetics

useless...

[faint sigil]

I love hoses & tubes on my armor. Gotta be one of my favorite genders.

[glossy hazel]

I just want a robe with a proper hood for Psyker

[fresh reef]

more likely than not, the cosmetics will be useable between careers

[viral solstice]

if they make all the psyker cosmetics usable for crab

thi sis acceptable tradeoff

[glossy hazel]

Something like this.

[pine relic]

Which one

[viral solstice]

the uncanny one is more fun tho the unstable power one is probs more damages on average but really both are good just slap

[gilded viper]

^

feel like u can fuck alot of armor on head with L1 but it nice for body shots

[fresh reef]

this one's actually named
all but confirmed it's for a Biomancer career
big hype

[pine relic]

the uncanny strike is kind of useless on this sword, because you deal the same damage to flak armor

[faint sigil]

What is a biomancer

[viral solstice]

i mean its more just the idea of hitting people to stack it is fun

[gilded viper]

oh yeah rending be like

[faint sigil]

I'm not a 40k boi

Do they heal or do like toxic shit

[viral solstice]

the point is the difference is super marginal because the finesse etc bonus improvement on the left makes the benefit of unstable power on the right lower, so fundamentally its minor

[fresh reef]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Biomancy