Not to my knowledge
#psyker-class
hybrid solstice
vale creek
Waaaaaaaaait really
hybrid solstice
Illis definitely does but i havent tried on deimos
vale creek
that changes a LOT
cyan notch
its definitely a bug
forest coral
or shows original intention for fs was all to have deflection by default
quasi pier
Yea if they didn't update obscurus to do the same it's a bug
forest coral
These new fs feel so good to play around with 
And not to mention non force weapons with the passive quell back has renabled some of my staffs with horrendously low quells
regal musk
Random question, been out of it for a while so havent paid attention to the new crafting stuff.
If i submit my only FS with Deflector, I can permanently apply Deflector to any other FS i own right?
weary idol
of that variant
regal musk
So submitting my Obscuras FS with Deflector only allows me to put Deflector on other Obscuras?
Bleh
spice veldt
oh wait
no it also allows you to put it on the deimos and illisi
the blaze force swords
regal musk
Ah ok, thanky
weary idol
so i'm trying out a bit of a weirdo build with the new feat
and honestly it doesn't feel half bad to use
vale creek
new feat?
weary idol
yeah new feat
vale creek
or shows original intention for fs was all to have deflection by default
would be cool
weary idol
2 brain bursts on elites will very consistently wipe entire groups of trash
vale creek
rn im using deflector and peris decrease on weakspot hit
weary idol
as the new feat makes the stacks carryover and kill new targets
weary idol
or if you have like a bulwark in the middle of a gorrilion poxwalkers
they will all die to 2 BB on the bulwark
it's pretty sweet
vale creek
as the new feat makes the stacks carryover and kill new targets
yoooo
cursive marten
Time to burn the heretic.
regal musk
Oh, They did fix Wrack and Ruin a bit. Works on hit instead of kills now. Wasnt expecting that
vale creek
i meant the bb spread
wide tiger
2 force swords in armoury shop at the SAME TIME?! The golden age has arived
hoary badge
Not having success with blazing spirit wildfire myself
quasi pier
it's pretty sweet
Yea I ran this today on damnation shock trooper today and it felt good. Only difference was using quietude on tier 1 feats
hoary badge
Allies wipe the floor too quickly for the fire to spread
weary idol
well wildfire causes any soulfire you applied to spread when the target dies
so as long as they're on fire an die the feat applies
even if the benefit of an enemy losing their health and dying in one less swing or bullet might not be very noticable
hoary badge
They all die before I can get any procs going i mean
weary idol
the real practical use for it is dealing with shooters taking cover near gunners/reapers
and bulwark/rager hordes
quasi pier
Yea I think blazing spirit needs to be on hit with a lower stack cap to be usable
The crit version is too inconsistent and slow to be very good imo
hoary badge
I'm missing shred and warp nexus on both my blazing spirit weapons which would probably make it more viable
But that's really painful to build for
wide tiger
it is
slaughterer is still better
i have a firesword, ill post it after mission, i just gave it a 5% perk crit, and even then i think its prob wasteful
regal musk
The heck is that buff to thr right of WC?
Oh nvm, Warp Nexus
Forgot blessings now show as buffs lol
quasi pier
But that's really painful to build for
I wouldn't waste mats trying to get it unless they make changes to blazing spirit. Even building into full crit leaves it lacking
summer prairie
Blazing spirit+nexus is good
on trauma
Also, with enough horde dmg power on your weapon, 4 stack AB + wildfire is pretty good. Of course you would be doing something more productive than just polishing your sword in a real game https://streamable.com/27sf04
weary idol
it's a pretty cool feat
hoary badge
I like polishing my illsis
quasi pier
Yea on trauma probably not bad aoe, I was specifically talking about blazing on sword. I think void staff would suffer the same problem
weary idol
even if you don't build into it it makes enemies so much squisher that most attacks just one shot them
hoary badge
Let's me feel the juices of the emperor flow through me
I got my first blazing 4 on my Deimos this patch
Was trying to pair it with a Blazing Trauma will little avail
quasi pier
even if you don't build into it it makes enemies so much squisher that most atta...
But you're better off just using slaughterer + anything and starting the blaze stacks using a different method, than trying to go Shred + blazing or even bloodthirsty + blazing
weary idol
well yeah
weary idol
what kinda weirdo relies on random crits to get soulblaze going
rather than deleting a handful of elites
or pressing F
quasi pier
what kinda weirdo relies on random crits to get soulblaze going
That's what I meant by building into it, because lago was talking about using blazing spirit with wildfire
steel flame
Only issue being that a crit on the illisi sword 1 shots most mobs
So actually getting SB stacks is a pain
dense tide
How it feels when 100 peril
forest coral
They know too much
dense tide
"REACHING INTO THE WARP!"
quasi pier
Only issue being that a crit on the illisi sword 1 shots most mobs
Yep, hopefully they look at the sword version of blazing down the road and change it to an on hit version
regal musk
Illsi FS not doing the weird animation on hit makes it super smooth lol
quasi pier
It would be super sweet, and pretty easy to balance with stack limits on wildfire
dense tide
While i'm not really knowledged with the warhammer world and lore, I am pretty sure I was told that some psykers can use telekenisis, so imagine slashing foes by some kind of a levitating force sword using your mind, it has potential for some mad range
ornate hamlet
Illsi FS not doing the weird animation on hit makes it super smooth lol
Imagine having a sword that doesn't take control of your camera for a janky animation
forest coral
Illisi charge up be like “vibe check”
dense tide
and if my knowledge is right, I'm pretty sure psykers can use telekenisis as some form of earthbending/metalbending
imagine a psyker starts picking up rocks from the ground and throw them at you using his mind only
forest coral
if we can lift things into the air like sister of thorns could
That would be kinda cool
quasi pier
A gravity field ability like mass effect mages would be sick
dense tide
I like to believe the philosphy that "we only use an actual small bit of our brain, and that we could do outstanding things if we unlock our full potential"
applies on pysker
quasi pier
I just want the ability to enter the minds of my enemies and tell them about our lord and savior Emperor Omnisiah the First
forest coral
I could think of much more awful places to burst
steel flame
Anyone else feel like the change to roaming enemies makes the map in damnation feel stupid empty outside swarms now?
forest coral
quasi pier
Anyone else feel like the change to roaming enemies makes the map in damnation f...
Maybe in low intensity
dense tide
Anybody would like to share any lore they made for their psyker, if you wrote anything
quasi pier
I only ran a few matches today, but the shock trooper maps basically felt like 0 downtime
steel flame
I was doing a few regular damnation because hi wasn't available and I had to double check it wasnt low intensity because there were barely any enemies in any of the maps
quasi pier
That would be disappointing if we have to rely on rng for good horde density on maps
wet belfry
That would be disappointing if we have to rely on rng for good horde density on ...
Elaborate
woeful cliff
Head hitbox on Deimos stabs are super nice. I can get them pretty regularly. Loving the new force swords that came out recently.
Feel like weakpoint damage is actually viable for it.
quasi pier
Momba said normal damnation is feeling empty because of the new enemy behavior changes
woeful cliff
I can see it making some breakpoints.
wet belfry
I think they just reduced the numbers of small groups of roamers
dense tide
You guys should totally write some lore and such for your characters, kinda like an oc
wet belfry
So scab melees, dreg melees.
quasi pier
Yea that's what the patch notes said. I was just commenting based on what momba said.
Haven't played vanilla damnation yet myself since patch
woeful cliff
I heard shotgunners got the nerf bat and that was a source of grief in damnation
woeful cliff
Yeah
Anyways, I love Deimos FS. I'll need to grab a good one and see how many stabs it takes to kill things and then roll perks until it takes 2 for most enemies.
golden tartan
Definitelt saw WAY more shotgunners than usual in the double special modifier
Even though they arent a special
woeful cliff
The dmg nerf means eating a shot doesn't chip health, you might fully tank with toughness
It does say Specials
Not Specialists
meager cedar
You guys should totally write some lore and such for your characters, kinda like...
I based my guy on one of my Dark Heresy tabletop characters, felt appropriate
woeful cliff
I rarely saw coordinated strikes of 5 specialists so maybe they lump anything that isn't a grunt as a "Special" enemy.
dense tide
I made mine off of as a child with deformed primal animal like facial features and white natural hair, and he is a black ship escapee that blended in at the industrial mars factories doing child labour
Despite the hard childhood, he works now as at the heretic & lowlifes office, being sent to these missions with the rejects
Some sort of a mentor/aid
He was named "snow monkey", because of his looks and the whole "intelligence and mankind had evolved from apes and monkeys" thing
There's plenty of details, and other story bits I made for my character, but this is pretty much the summaries
weary idol
my Psyker is named Gruntilda because she's a witch and that's funny
ornate hamlet
How it feels when 100 peril
TZEENTCH IS TICKLING MY BUNGHOLE
ornate hamlet
Tickle his back
i cant tickle something thats fucking hypothetical
forest coral
Not with that attitude
compact cargo
no
ornate hamlet
isnt his form unknowable
compact cargo
he is mollusk that dictatrs crypto prices
forest coral
is literally nothing and everything
You could be tickling him right now and you wouldn’t know it
ornate hamlet
constantly changing
compact cargo
ornate hamlet
oh kek
honest frigate
New FS supposed to be for horde is meh
Not really
forest coral
They’re both really good
honest frigate
Deimos sword is almost the same as the starter one except its better at singletarget
twilit badger
One for horde lacks single target deletion by huge
forest coral
It’s like heavy sword on steroids
forest coral
Yes
honest frigate
It turns off after a swing but its pretty good at deleting horse idk whatchu mean
copium
twilit badger
I'd stick to old FS and thrust one thanks
forest coral
twilit badger
Ghetto PS sucks honestly
forest coral
You’re free to do so lmao
honest frigate
Copium
twilit badger
If it were able to do 2 swings sure
twilit badger
Yicky for only 1 swing
honest frigate
Its a obscurus sword with the ability to deal with hordes idk whats so bad about it
People are never satisfied
twilit badger
Because other obscurus sword can do amazing single target dmg
This one sacrificed that
forest coral
Right but this sword opens up things like gunker
twilit badger
But not that good against hordes either
honest frigate
Its good against hordes
proven cipher
Well if the special is on a timer or 2-3 swings
honest frigate
smh
forest coral
And you are no longer that cucked for running surge or void
twilit badger
For how much sacrificed it is
proven cipher
Then it would have been better
forest coral
It sacrificed literally nothing lol
twilit badger
It sacrificed literally nothing lol
Okay
Does it able to one shot
Dreg gunners
With 1 charge up attack?
proven cipher
Like a poor man powersword,
forest coral
no but it can two shot them without having to do it
forest coral
And it can cleave horde
twilit badger
There you go
summer prairie
it can with proper blessings/perks
forest coral
It can cleave through horde and elite
twilit badger
Can't even one shot dreg gunners in one charge up
twilit badger
And you still saying it sacrificed nothing
forest coral
Like bruh
twilit badger
Smh
forest coral
Think outside the box
summer prairie
Illisi can one-shot two or more scab gunners/shotgunners
with warp unleashed/stacks or blessings/perks
and in addition will one-shot horde
with the same swing
twilit badger
Define overpowered
proven cipher
Kinda wish it got slaughterer or blazing spirit but it will do for now.
forest coral
Illisi has similar elite killing power to tac axes
Whilst being a horde blender
I don’t really see how u can call it weak lol
twilit badger
"Horde blender"
Charge up disappears after 1 swing
proven cipher
Feels like if you're a Purgatus staff user then the Deimos force sword single target is better
forest coral
you literally don’t need to charge up to blend horde
You can light spam like hsword
And it’ll achieve same result
forest coral
Well something gotta keep it in check
twilit badger
Because move set does have wide swings
forest coral
This thing can cleave through multiple elites at once with horde when u charge it
It’s kinda silly
forest coral
deimos will shit on elites faster for sure
honest frigate
Hit weakspots with the warp chargeup with the Illisi and youll be fine
Run the slaughterer blessing and flak and carapace perks
Bloodthirsty and unstable power is good too
summer prairie
unstable power probably better now anyway
summer prairie
this is with no slaughterer stacks or even any relevant elite blessings https://streamable.com/dntcma
honest frigate
Flak perks?
forest coral
I think flak is pretty overkill on the sword
uneven drift
How much do power percentages help with the dmg
Power not only dmg, but cleave and stagger as well. And it translates 1 to 1 i believe. So 8% can help reach breakpoints or can do nothing depending on weapon.
forest coral
But it can enable one taps
honest frigate
Overkill? Why? Its useful on damnation
meager cedar
I made mine off of as a child with deformed primal animal like facial features a...
Hah, yeah my psyker is a forge worldy type as well
honest frigate
Since you can only swing once you may as well oneshot
meager cedar
I kinda wish they just let us say we came from X World and could name them, rather than the set of existing worlds they gave us
forest coral
For me flak diff is really minimal since it rekts the flak bois in 2 shots anyway
But it’s a valid perk for it tho
meager cedar
But I assume we're eventually gonna get Chaos Wastes-style daemonic whispering that makes fun of our characters via their character specific things
forest coral
Don’t get me wrong
ornate hamlet
whats the deimos and obscurus crowd control combos
proven cipher
So are bloodthirsty and blazing spirit still the best blessing combo for FS?
forest coral
Blazing spirit never was
digital pagoda
Blazing spirit sucks
forest coral
Was always slaughterer/ preference
digital pagoda
whats the deimos and obscurus crowd control combos
Deimos is heavy 1 into lights
For hordes
forest coral
Yup
digital pagoda
I just do heavy + spam light
forest coral
Heavy light repeat for diagonals
ornate hamlet
and what about the og force sword
digital pagoda
Spam shove until you can make space to pull out staff
proven cipher
Seem like for Purgatus staff main, Deimos sword is best
forest coral
Definitely compliments each other very well
Deimos also shits on other melee elites because of its dodge distance
It’s one of the most comfortable weapons to 1v1 monsties with
proven cipher
Also Deimos light deals more dmg than it's heavy
proven cipher
Which is perfect for special
forest coral
ahaha
proven cipher
Yeah all in the first attack
forest coral
We definitely got the good end of the patch this time round
proven cipher
Special light stab special light stab
proven cipher
Well the fire shotgun seem fun
twilit badger
It was a bug so had to go
forest coral
Ye
proven cipher
Atleast the ways it looks when it fire special bullets anyway
Wish they came out with another flamer for zealot
uneven drift
It was a bug so had to go
Yeah, fix infinite block cancel, q-q cancel, quell cancel then pls
twilit badger
Yeah, fix infinite block cancel, q-q cancel, quell cancel then pls<:KEKW_ogryn:1...
Sure
They need to go too
twilit badger
Super cheesy things for called to be it's skillz
uneven drift
No one called it skill at least here. But this thing at least allow to catch up all broken options this game have. If all weapon would be in line in terms of power i wouldn't say a word about cancels, but like, why would you want to pick something over PS, Antax, Hsword, Deimos and etc.
Tanking DHs on any class with any melee weapons and so not only DHs are not cheesy it seems.
spice veldt
for groaners and whatnot that get one-shot by lights i suppose
they're there if you ever need them, but they don't seem particularly useful
ornate hamlet
i dont quite like the deimos move set
any weapon with useless attacks are imo poorly designed
stray warren
Did they increase stagger resist on bursters? My ult doesn't seem to knock them back any more.
spice veldt
bursters seem the same to me
steel flame
Super cheesy things for called to be it's skillz
I think we should remove vet wallhacks "skill", and zealot 1hp "skill" for being too cheesy and not skill based
spice veldt
keep in mind that the strength of your ult's stagger scales with the # of warp charges you have
fierce sinew
hurrr execution bad, the easy thing must be the good thing durr
ornate hamlet
vets 75% damage reduction feat needs to be removed lmao
spice veldt
i think the deimos is fine, but I wouldn't want to use a weapon with a sticky special ever again
I actually like its moveset
esp the heavy->light because holy shit that shit is fast and you don't need to cancel for it
steel flame
vets 75% damage reduction feat needs to be removed lmao
Your right of course, we certainly need to remove that too
twilit badger
I think we should remove vet wallhacks "skill", and zealot 1hp "skill" for being...
Sadly those are intended feature from FS
Complain that to FS
delicate smelt
Some people only play vet, if vet got normalized most of them wouldn't bother playing at all.
ornate hamlet
vets so busted
steel flame
i think the deimos is fine, but I wouldn't want to use a weapon with a sticky sp...
I actually like the Deimos more than the illisi. It's got some real killing power and it's moveset is super fast and goes right where I want it too.
stray warren
You know Vet is a strong class when people are legitimately complaining that the shotguns aren't good. They're so fuckin spoilt for choice.
ornate hamlet
ah yes, the ranged class has one of the best melees in the game and can become tankier than ogryns
steel flame
Because shotguns are not that good
Your mom wasn't that good, but you don't see me complaining about it
spice veldt
oh yeah I forgot that the 2nd heavy is basically as good as the special
digital pagoda
With the deimos I don't even think you need to use special at all, light into heavy on the head oneshots every special, and two shots reapers and bulwarks
Heavy 2 damage on headshot is actually ridiculous
twilit badger
Your mom wasn't that good, but you don't see me complaining about it
It's so cringe that i don't feel like to reply to that
steel flame
It's so cringe that i don't feel like to reply to that
That was the intention yes 
fierce sinew
It's so cringe that i don't feel like to reply to that
but who was phone
ornate hamlet
maybe its finally time for ur mom to grow up
spice veldt
deimos does like 900 dps to the plogryn if I repeat l1->h2
twilit badger
ah yes, the ranged class has one of the best melees in the game and can become t...
Go whine that in veteran channel
Not here
ornate hamlet
go whine about ur mother in veteran channel
twilit badger
Or just keep whine like a biatch that you are
ornate hamlet
rude
west galleon
Why are you doing rp in here
delicate smelt
In the grim darkness of psyker chat, there is only war
spice veldt
100% peril FX psykers be like
delicate smelt
Buzz buzzbuzzbuzz buzzzzzz....
west galleon
Roleplaying some god damn morons that is
honest frigate
I love me some warp soup in the evening
twilit badger
🧠💩
steel flame
Don't mind me. Im just here to sow a little 
Also I felt this chat needed some more middle school energy
west galleon
I had a fun damnation try yesterday
steel flame
Do tell
west galleon
3 zealots and me
I clutcg hardcore in the first 10 minutes after everyone goes down during a beast spawn
Which is bs i should get the penance for that alone
And after we finally get to the auspex part of the mission, one zealot runs ahead and fights for his life during a horde, one gets flung off the side by a mutie, i brainfart and do the same and the last guy just goes down in the horde
Was fun
steel flame
Sounds like a good time
steel egret
Game keeps getting easier but players worse.
west galleon
Most unfortunate, but i really felt like i could have done it if i didnt run into that mutant at a cliff
twilit badger
Game keeps getting easier but players worse.
Have you tried new modifier
Shocktroop gauntlet for example
steel egret
Not yet.
delicate smelt
Could be worse, he could've just throw you at a demonhost for the lols
twilit badger
Press X to doubt it's getting easier.
delicate smelt
Thrown*
steel egret
Press X to doubt it's getting easier. <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I mean if you dont play said special condition
It is easier.
steel flame
Shocktroop gauntlet for example
I got chain grabbed by 4 mutants for 45 seconds straight
Good times
twilit badger
I got chain grabbed by 4 mutants for 45 seconds straight
And 2 snipers spawn at the same time
Fun fun fun
steel egret
I wouldnt go there with randos anyway but if someone Ive played with would like to try it could be relatively fun.
west galleon
Could be worse, he could've just throw you at a demonhost for the lols
Funnily enough! I had a different run where one guy ran right into a DH because he didnt see it spawning in front of a medicae
Pubs are fun
delicate smelt
Going in with a pug fits more into the "rejects who don't really trust each other as far as they can throw them but have no choice but to play ball anyway" kind of thing.
steel egret
I do aswell at the moment
spice veldt
i play like a monkey in pubs
steel egret
Occasionally play with one american guy but he eats floor most of time due using controller and being high
west galleon
My buds are all in different timezones, i got no choice most days
Anyone feel like buddying up ?
I mean not rn, im at work but its never a bad time to make friends hm
delicate smelt
Pugs are the true way of fighting hordes of heretics.
vale creek
sure but im no voice man
vale creek
Pugs are the true way of fighting hordes of heretics.
i love to burn hordes so its okay
360 fire cc everymeow
forest coral
ive once brainpopped a daemonhost from across the map because it just happened to be blocking a sniper but didnt see a visual cue
Spontaenous dh teleport in face was a to be continued moment
vale creek
oof moment
steel egret
I always type daemonhost on chat in case my teammates have cranked soulja boy or something too loud to hear it or dont have screen turned on.
west galleon
Very commendable
delicate smelt
Yeah never gonna get people who do that on a game that's heavily focused on audio cues, it's fine if it's up to malice I guess.
halcyon creek
I keep tagging the dh until the pug is all past it. Mostly because even I sometimes forget where it is… especially if there’s a roaming pack nearby
delicate smelt
I'm sure someone will one day make a mod that warns you on chatbox whenever an elite or a dh is nearby tho.
steel egret
Visited below malice difficulty with guy who I was introducing to the game
Didnt know daemonhost only killed 1 person in lower difficulties.
halcyon creek
It’s been a hot minute since I’ve played a lights-out. You get a bit more tagging in pugs with no lights
delicate smelt
You also get a lot more veterans with the accatran, with flashlight on and pointing it at daemonhosts.
hollow current
jesus two godlike trauma staves just popped up in the hourly for me. 379 and 375. Damage, charge and AOE max'd on both.
Can't wait for hadron to brick them
cyan notch
well u only need flurry
delicate smelt
Trauma is my guilty pleasure staff, nothing more satisfying than charging a big boom into a horde and watching the ragdolls fly, even if it annoys the zealots.
cyan notch
so cant really brick em
twilit badger
Trauma is my guilty pleasure staff, nothing more satisfying than charging a big ...
Annoys pretty much everyone you mean
delicate smelt
Annoys pretty much everyone you mean
Yea pretty much
twilit badger
Yea pretty much
So it was you who made chaffs flying all over the places amd make people have to deal with chaffs coming from 3 different angles
hollow current
Trauma is my guilty pleasure staff, nothing more satisfying than charging a big ...
My favorite thing with the Trauma is to steal the kills from the flamers who enjoy robbing my eye sight.
spice veldt
trauma is a good staff to pair with a flamer
delicate smelt
So it was you who made chaffs flying all over the places amd make people have to...
Sometimes the purgatus just gets old!
delicate smelt
My favorite thing with the Trauma is to steal the kills from the flamers who enj...
Yes, competing with flamer for killstreak in game banter.
hollow current
It's super good for killing the suiciders though.
cyan notch
weak herald
Hallo, i've been wondering are there tiers for the deflector blessing ?
cyan notch
yes u get 3/6/9/12 % block reduction in addition with each tier
steel flame
behold my power
Wait a second. Something isn't right here.........but I can't put my finger on it
late yew
So psyker really good now?
honest frigate
Psyker was really good for a long time now
dusky bear
yep
when it triggers you see the brain burst lighting happen. no peril generation either
stone pulsar
ah so its a free warp charge every 15 seconds.
dusky bear
pretty much
stone pulsar
assuming it kills the target
dusky bear
its not bad with purg staff since its basically gaurenteed to trigger ever 15 seconds. but the 6 charges for ascendant blaze is better
weak herald
yes u get 3/6/9/12 % block reduction in addition with each tier
Thanks a lot ! I hope I can upgrade it a one moment haha only got tier 1
stone pulsar
level 26 atm. trying things out lol
wicked jewel
Psyker so good now Im nervous it will be dialed back next update
dusky bear
twilit badger
Please.
dusky bear
please what? use your words
stone pulsar
so how many stacks of soulblaze does acsent blaze does?
dusky bear
the same as the number of warp charges you have
+1 i think
or maybe not
maybe just does 1 stack when you have no charges
dusky bear
damnit hadron if you could not bend me over just once when i get a good stat roll
dusky bear
4 stacks does not seem too damaging
4 isnt, but 6 stacks will delete hoards and most specials
or at least seriously soften everything up
wicked jewel
imo 4 is plenty damaging its not about killing enemies on its own but making them take very little conventional damage to finish off
twilit badger
6 stack is totally worth it
Deletes hordes and stuff
You will be at 6 stacks in 3 seconds
wicked jewel
but the new wildfire feat is fun to watch spread lol
twilit badger
After using it on horde
dusky bear
on damnation 6 stacks dropps a flak shotgunner to 1 health. 4 stacks drops it to half health
same with hoard. it outright kills them with 6 stacks but leaves them at half health with 4
shadow quail
Deflector is built into the sword
ornate hamlet
Deflector is built into the sword
it blocks bullets too?
shadow quail
Yes
frail berry
they confirm that is intended/not a bug?
ornate hamlet
the fuck?
dusky bear
i feel like thats a bug
ornate hamlet
yeah bug
frail berry
^
shadow quail
It's likely a bug, but both the new ones block bullets atm
ornate hamlet
how is it a trash
twilit badger
Barter it
dusky bear
ignore him
twilit badger
Source : trust me bro
ornate hamlet
he jelly
dusky bear
people will call anything not meta min/maxed trash
ornate hamlet
peanut butter and jelly
polar oyster
source= flawed
twilit badger
I ain't jelly 4 yo trash FS 💀 💀
polar oyster
New swords are better than first sword. That thing does more damage on light attacks than most swords do on heavy
ornate hamlet
its insane
and now with slaughtere
and the one perk that makes warp charges scale
its fucking retarded good
dusky bear
the new pokey one or the hoard clear one?
weary idol
pokey sword one shotting ragers with 3 warp charges is fascinating ngl
dusky bear
stab stab stab
ornate hamlet
pokey sword one shotting ragers with 3 warp charges is *fascinating* ngl
love gun psyker '
polar oyster
i like doing engerize hold block to get out of energizing faster to light attack flack armor 1 shotting most things than well you are locked in that target hold block to pull the sword out t tad faster
weary idol
and it can do 700 carapace damage too
west galleon
how tho
Wasnt that a thing for the regular FS too before they nerfed it?
Maybe they forgot to adjust the code
late yew
Which attacks should i use against horde with blaze 5?
Both lights and heavies seem to be good against them
also kills with warp charged sword don't seem to trigger warp absorption?
runic stream
summer prairie
yes, but might as well get flurry now
uneven drift
It's fine just as comfy emergency option. But if you have some situational awareness and positioning it's not needed.
summer prairie
heavy 1 is best, usually you'll just want to activate + heavy 1
against low intensity chaining lights is fine
and yes, warp absorption doesn't work
ornate hamlet
Wasnt that a thing for the regular FS too before they nerfed it?
no it wasnt
remote raptor
is the quell speed on this too low or barely okay
summer prairie
quell speed not a big deal now
cyan notch
its fine youre mostly quelling 10% from 100% anyway
late yew
heavy 1 is best, usually you'll just want to activate + heavy 1
thanks
summer prairie
it doesn't affect how long it takes to quell a single tick, just how much you quell per tick
remote raptor
it doesn't affect how long it takes to quell a single tick, just how much you qu...
ah
west galleon
no it wasnt
100%? Welp, maybe devs did us a favor then
remote raptor
gon cop that then sine i dont have a good surge yet
summer prairie
can't chain staff specials or lmb to trigger flurry anymore
summer prairie
staff special, as in poking with your staff
cyan notch
by charging it lol
late yew
So with new force weapons, you can be fine as using only them now?
summer prairie
what
late yew
I like using weapons unique to the class
twilit badger
I like using weapons unique to the class
So you using shovel as vet?
limber silo
Does vet get the duelling sword?
twilit badger
Extra ew
remote raptor
staff special, as in poking with your staff
oh opps
limber silo
Oh snap duelling sword is psyker unique
limber silo
Wdym it's pretty good
twilit badger
I hate it i hate it i hate it
limber silo
Extra mobile, good clear
limber silo
Uncanny helps with heavy armor
west galleon
Someone said it would
limber silo
What are your perks and blessings?
west galleon
Cant remember off the top of my head soz
Some weakspot dmg stuff and armored dmg im sure
The other is the quell blessing that i know
cloud sequoia
le funny soulblaze
limber silo
It's alright on trauma, I just wish it was on surge staff
west galleon
I figured, but i didnt know it needed synergy with crit to work best
That kinda blows
limber silo
The issue with Surge is that all staves want other blessings more
west galleon
Bamboozled
plucky flax
west galleon
I mean im 100% keeping the quell blessing, but im not sure what else to take
I dont play enough to actually try all combinations
limber silo
Voidstrike, you want transfer peril and prolly nexus
west galleon
Thank
limber silo
Nexus is just extra damage. It'd be funny to put blazing spirit instead of transfer tho
Spicy cannonballs
cold geode
limber silo
Also, I've been fiddling with Quicken since the buff. It feels good with voidstrike since it struggles with close range
211131 w/ Illisi and Void feels nice
I don't have Transfer Peril so I went with absorption
west galleon
I like mind in motion
limber silo
Mind in Motion is a trap imo
dreamy wharf
why not?
limber silo
It's a crutch. Learning how to use cover effectively negates the usefulness of Mind in Motion
honest frigate
Amelia Earhart
late yew
So you using shovel as vet?
actually no, i don't like it
west galleon
It's a crutch. Learning how to use cover effectively negates the usefulness of ...
Fair enough, i started picking it because i didnt feel like always lagging behind
fluid cove
Mind in motion was nice when running through maps with a melee heavy comp because it let you keep up and keep casting. Now that passive and active quell is so much faster, you really don't need it, and the other options are legitimately great
limber silo
Also I recommend learning to slide quell
fluid cove
And I loved mind in motion, but I changed my build this patch.
If you aren't playing like a marth main you aren't playing Darktide right.
honest frigate
Im playing like a warp-possessed witch serving the imperium (the voices arent real they arent real they arent rea)
west galleon
Im playing like a jackass
Because fuck these kids i do what i want
I just try to do what feels right in the moment, i dont think i would be able to explain my playstyle
heady swan
fluid cove
The two new ones are perfectly functional and in no way bugged or broken
spice veldt
for hordeclear, illisi is significantly better; and not just because of the cleaving special but because of the first heavy that is spammable as fuck and is a true horizontal
but the special no longer deals 200% against flak
instead, it seems to do increased damage against Unyielding
the downside is that the combos are a little more clunky, as pushing causes you to start from the 2nd attack of the light/heavy chain which tends to be not as good (2nd light comes out slow, and the 2nd heavy is a diagonal instead of a horizontal)
shy prairie
97
spice veldt
97% and below
though it's got some extra decimal places hidden from you
so casting at 97% can still kill you
shy prairie
also known as rolling a 0 on perils of the warp
spice veldt
i've gambled too much on 97%s and come out the loser many times
though, if you perform continuous BBs with kinetic barrage from 0%, the 5th brain burst that is cast at 97% is safe to do
summer prairie
If you are just quelling from 100, you can start casting BB as soon as the number goes down. Or just get True peril mod
shy prairie
mutant chucked someone through the stairs in one of mine
stone pulsar
i like how the art team bothered to model the parts that nobody gets to see lol
sweet drift
Welcome to the warp or something idk
untold meteor
So is it just me or is the Deimos Mk IV Force Sword utterly disgusting even without the special
that H2 makes me feel something
west galleon
Hip snap combo
clear hamlet
Vet at the start of the mission told us to learn how to play and bb elites, then left. Ogryn bro joins and everything went smoothly
Good riddance I say
limpid lily
I got 3 vets the other day, triggered daemonhost INSTA LEFT
untold meteor
As a vet main, that vet is an idiot
limpid lily
left me with 3 bots which died but daemonhost still went after me
finite topaz
so fellow psykers did you change your build after patch?
untold meteor
I swapped to Warp Unleashed with the single target force sword
untold meteor
and it's... terrifying
limpid lily
dude the Deimos force sword has a bit of sideway strike which can hit Mauler in the body, unlike the Obscurus one (which you could still do but inconsitent)
I love the Deimos so much
untold meteor
I only charge up the special for mauler
I can like 1.1 shot the maniac
if the heavy 2 hits headshot
limpid lily
heavy special I meant
untold meteor
and heavy spam on crusher's head
limpid lily
yeha maniacs still need 2 special hits yeah
untold meteor
though with 6 stacks I can 2 shot crushers
with special
i'm more shocked I can one shot nearly everything human sized with the h2 stab
limpid lily
takes a bit to get there so Id say not surprising
untold meteor
yeah with 6 warp charges and warp unleashed
near wyvern
Siblings. I am exploring things for the Atheneum and I found something huge.
Wildfire procs off from dead bodies.
summer prairie
It also looks like they made AB triggering more consistent as well
I haven't tested but based on the code I would guess you can get a stack when the dead body loses the soulblaze effect
near wyvern
I'll burn a pile of bodies and we shall see
I know they said they fixed some staff attacks preventing warp charges through AB so that's probably it, not getting any luck with the bodies
cyan notch
too bad i only set it to 1 dead body active only
summer prairie
doesn't look like you can get stacks that way, anyway some relevant code was changed which I think was intended to increase consistency
feral verge
Siblings. I am exploring things for the Atheneum and I found something huge.
Thanks for your work
summer prairie
But yeah this is goofy https://streamable.com/3zljte
I guess it's just checking that the creature is dead and soulblaze expired
deimos l1-h2 takes only 14 seconds to deplete Captain's shield, pretty fast. That's with 0 peril and no relevant perks
cyan notch
no weakspot either
stone pulsar
huh...force swords only give you 2 stamina.
which means with no stamina curios you are at...3 max stamina.
cyan notch
yes
shy prairie
yes
shy prairie
i mean psyker has the stamina regen
stone pulsar
oh i know. 0.5 second delay
no wonder i feel borked doing melee as vet. they have 1.25 seconds delay
tropic pollen
can i get some of that stamina regen startup
stone pulsar
two t2 perks
tawdry shell
okie
summer prairie
if you hold sprint while you are chaining deimos l1+h2, it cancels the combo at some point and you end up with h1+l2 instead, a bit annoying
feral verge
- Stam on psyker isn't bad
But I don't find it necessary at all, in my experience
Cuz of the Regen being so fast
late yew
i am a bit confused, do you vent peril faster with force weapons, or with normal ones now?
summer prairie
Everything without the quell stat is the same except BB, I think
FF has the same values as the staves but no stat so it's like having 50% quell on a staff
summer prairie
I'm looking at the numbers and not sure if that's true though
fiery atlas
yeah it's super fast now
fiery atlas
I'm looking at the numbers and not sure if that's true though
they've actually buffed quelling all around to where you don't have to take out your staff when BBing
summer prairie
vs
fiery atlas
you can just spam BB and do light venting
cyan notch
well you never really had to take out your staff unless you wanted to quell to 0
leaden thunder
fiery atlas
well you never really had to take out your staff unless you wanted to quell to 0
i did because it was faster if you were dealing with fucked situations
like snipers on top of specials incoming
with mixed hordes
right now it's just viable to quell period
summer prairie
Shred not very useful, oh well
cyan notch
run it back
summer prairie
it's just an elite enemy pokey stick
olive ember
probably
fiery atlas
it's just an elite enemy pokey stick
which is v good if you're doing assassination missions
and have an obscene amount of bulwarks/reapers
otherwise illisi is too good for utility
summer prairie
you lose your stacks when you activate the special
summer prairie
you wouldn't want to use the special anyway
cyan notch
mutie drivebys
summer prairie
even ragers don't really need it if you headshot
cyan notch
flamers and dogs
summer prairie
h2 oneshots flamers with no activation
cyan notch
yea but u can just activate slide and stab once
shy prairie
||it also has deflector built in, tell nobody||
olive ember
Was there a consensus on wildfire useful ness?
summer prairie
I think it's useful if you can use it while proccing your slaughterer stacks and have other relevant buffs on your weapon
shy prairie
time to try and get bloodthirsty for the iblisi
summer prairie
I can AB ult with 4 stacks and then just melee with illisi while it keeps spreading until everything within range is dead
olive ember
You know what they should do… they should make ranged block innate and make deflector allow for ranged block on revive
👍👍
fiery atlas
https://tenor.com/view/astartes-40k-psychic-charge-up-gif-22247024
me when i equip the funny sword
stone pulsar
by the emperor...
shy prairie
me when I get quickplayed into baross damnation-stg for the third time in a row
stone pulsar
the mk5 force sword is awesome!
shy prairie
sssh
shy prairie
special -> h1 -> bc
rinse and repeat
bloodthirsty 100 crit after kill
slaughterer too
stone pulsar
wait....the force swords don't share blessings?
or i did i imagine me having deflector 4
shy prairie
horrendous, I know
stone pulsar
oh my emperor....
shy prairie
it's a different variant, they don't share...
stone pulsar
screams
steel egret
What
wet jacinth
it's a different variant, they don't share...
When some weapons do but not all.
It's fucked
shy prairie
I'd say it's insanity but a little too on the nose for a psyker
olive ember
They share blessings
you are imagining things
I slapped a t3 slaughterer on my mk V using slaughterer I had from my original FS
stray warren
The new AoE sword is so beautiful 🥹
steel egret
Yes
shy prairie
don't put deflector on it..
stone pulsar
nah i play the err...logical one
olive ember
I also wouldn't bank on them keeping the built in deflector in
wet jacinth
They are hallucinating under the effects of the warp
stone pulsar
thats a bug for sure
wet jacinth
stray warren
nah i play the err...logical one
MY INCOMPARABLE MIND tips Warp Fedora
wet jacinth
Just use ogryn to block ranged
shy prairie
walk behind insert teammate
wet jacinth
Shield to protecc Lil future Daemon
shy prairie
the psyker starts counting and stops at 7
late yew
yes, i read it. I just does not make sense that non-force quells faster
wet jacinth
Ngl im curious now about the Female Psyker ogryn. What if she becomes a daemon host.
west galleon
The what
wet jacinth
In lore a female ogryn psyker exists
stone pulsar
yes. Cassia
west galleon
Now thats a truly incomparable mind then
shy prairie
is she a byproduct of orks believing she is da strongest and da meanest because she's da biggest
stone pulsar
and shes like...twice as smart as a Ogryn with a bone'ead implant
she can actually write simple sentences
wet jacinth
Iirc she isn't even the smartest ogryn
stray warren
yes, i read it. I just does not make sense that non-force quells faster
It does make sense. You can't actively quell on non-force weapons, so it passively quells faster. Its a trade-off to make builds better.
stone pulsar
plus non force weapons are not warp attuned so it makes sense that the...warp energy leeches off faster?
wet jacinth
Ye
stone pulsar
Over the course of two years of repeated studying, the Ogryn eventually taught herself how to read and write in fine calligraphy.
big brain
shy prairie
when the psyker ogryn hits you with that Terran High Gothic
stone pulsar
i read somewhere that since the opening of the great rift, ogryns have been becoming smarter, hence why our character ogryns are smarter then usual.
steel egret
Some VO are supposedly chipped
steel egret
I mean I use Bully
wet jacinth
One is smarter but not chipped. The other. They're just a pure ogryn
Precious big boi
ornate hamlet
One of the skins you can buy is a bonehead, so there's that
stone pulsar
i rp when i play as them
my boi is named Bonk. he likes to bonk heretics on the head with his shovel.
wet jacinth
One of the skins you can buy is a bonehead, so there's that
Skins aren't Canon iirc but they are neat
steel egret
I dont think fatshark could come up with a proper explanation to why ogryns dont instantly empty their clip when shooting starts.
Since they dont have limiters
ornate hamlet
Good point. Maybe these are more disciplined from working under unusual conditions?
leaden thunder
I think our ogryns are jsut smart
or well
less dumb
pretty sure they all used to be in the guard
wet jacinth
It wouldn't matter anyhow. The ogryn who full autos would just say to the Lil uns "OI NEEDED ET" when picking up all the ammo
ornate hamlet
I mean in the TTRPG you'd have smart humans controlling the units, so
wet jacinth
I mean in the TTRPG you'd have smart humans controlling the units, so
looks at 4 Ogryn kill teams
ornate hamlet
tacticool screen?
wet jacinth
did you screen your tacticool?
shy prairie
forcesword with rending scaling off of warp charges...
steel egret
less dumb
They cant really make excuse for it, its not any different from if we played as poxhounds and could open doors
They have enabled us to play smart ogryns.
If our guns turned into melee weapons in middle of firing or we had limiters they would aim for genuine ogryn experience
Not to mention fake medals at end of mission
alpine yoke
is deflector still a must have?
steel egret
But that would probably be less fun to play
steel egret
is deflector still a must have?
No
shy prairie
blood thirsty slaughterer iblisi..
alpine yoke
Good to know cuz i want re bless my sword with blood thirsty
steel egret
Yeah.
olive ember
no slaughterer?
pine relic
Is it good
olive ember
Is it good
Its prob one of the best recon lasguns you can get
only problem is that recon lasguns are bad in general
up to you if you wanna keep it in case they buff it
infernus is def one of the BiS blessings on recon tho
so even if you are to scrap it make sure you get that infernus 4 off of it
dark marsh
t5 new mode poppped up guys
pine relic
so even if you are to scrap it make sure you get that infernus 4 off of it
Ok, thanks
alpine yoke
is earned blessing shared by all characters?
olive ember
yes
dark marsh
if i remember right yes
olive ember
but earned blessings also are only by same type of weapons
alpine yoke
great
olive ember
so if you get idk slaughterer on a force sword, you won't be able to transfer that to the powersword later
shadow onyx
the new obscurus force sword is such a powerhouse
olive ember
the new obscurus force sword is such a powerhouse
obscurus is the og FS
alpine yoke
I need this for my zealot
olive ember
you talking about deimos? or just the buffs that obscurus got
olive ember
You try out the mk V illi FS?
olive ember
ah the deimos
shadow onyx
yep
alpine yoke
Mark 4 you mean
olive ember
I personally hate it but
alpine yoke
i love it
silk ridge
Do Pox Hounds count towards Pick N' Mix?
clear heath
i see a poxwalker horde and i run towards it in excitement
clear heath
You don't actually have to spam the special all that much
shadow onyx
to me it looked like a cheap version of power sword
clear heath
it actually works uncharged
unlike the power sword
you just special at the beginning and then special every once in a while during a fight to keep peril up
olive ember
i see a poxwalker horde and i run towards it in excitement
Honestly I feel like I've become a powersword samurai
but with a FS
clear heath
i really like the feeling of playing around at 100% and making room to special again every time i hit 99%
spice veldt
the 1st heavy on the illisi is great
clear heath
has a nice rythm to it
spice veldt
you can just QQ cancel it repeatedly
olive ember
to me it looked like a cheap version of power sword
its like an hsword and a psword had a kid I guess. By itself its basically a weaker hsword except you spam heavies instead of lights, but if you need to you can empower it to give it some armor pen and ignore hitmass
and a bit mroe damage
shadow onyx
i dont like theses sword
clear heath
it's just so nice for playing at high peril with warp unleashed
cyan notch
r slash edging
stone pulsar
so about force sword charge ups. they only last for a single strike right
clear heath
yeah
cyan notch
what should i change crit to
alpine yoke
i need a good one, right now
clear heath
idk maybe maniac?
summer prairie
if you use wildfire or 4 stacks AB, maybe infested
alpine yoke
This is PS but for psyker
cyan notch
what does infested do
summer prairie
kills them faster/more reliably when they have 4 stacks of soulblaze
stone pulsar
so whats the dump stat for the FS? warp resistance?
spice veldt
warp res and mobility
stone pulsar
ok
spice veldt
i prefer having more mobility, so warp res is personally my dumpstat
clear heath
same
stone pulsar
gotta have that dodge distance to make use of unlimited dodge
summer prairie
also more reliably kills 7 poxwalkers per activated swing
clear heath
With slaughterer and unstable, I don't think that's a concern
probably kills at least 6 of them anyways
stone pulsar
so if i put unarmoured on my surge staff and i acendent blaze, soulblaze stacks will deal 20-25% more damage to unarmoured enemies?
cyan notch
u can get away with 0 mob on deimos
summer prairie
even with 5 slaughter t4 stacks, you'll need to be at high peril to kill 7 without +infested
clear heath
imagine not being at 100% peril constantly
summer prairie
it's probably possible to have enough +infested/dmg/power that it kills as many as you can cleave
clever lynx
what blessings for Deimos FS?
supple skiff
so what are the thoughts on the new force swords, haven't had the opportunity to play the patch yet
still apex
can we use the shotguns?
unreal dust
I like the new single-target one
unreal dust
so what are the thoughts on the new force swords, haven't had the opportunity to...
The new single target FS that is. The charge attack anim feels a bit funky, but the swing speed is waaaaay faster