psyker-class

[mortal crest]

L

[viral solstice]

there are 2 actual damage blessings on revolver

[full egret]

as stated, if the nearby enemies have the same or more stacks of soul blaze, nothing happens

[spice oar]

shouldnt it be great tho?

[viral solstice]

they are trickshooter - which requires chain headshots and is 25% power in the best instance - and hand-cannon

now let me ask you a question

[near wyvern]

Not true. Trauma is really good now, especially with the buffed quell speed. Quietitude Trauma is sick.

[mortal crest]

Wait what? I didn't catch that. Are you for real?

[full egret]

if you're using a purgatus, wildfire does nothing

[mortal crest]

Bruh

[hard breach]

The game would be more popular if they actually let us have fun though. I like surge a lot but, i'd like to actually become more then a stunbot

[viral solstice]

reovlver has 70% damage vs maniacs. max rank hand-cannon gives u 50% rending. how much damage does hand-cannon give u on a headshot crit on a rager

[orchid nacelle]

did they buff trauma range

[spice oar]

this

[olive ember]

I mean on purge it’s basically when you burn on group of enemies and they die it will spread to other groups of enemies that have less stacks

[viral solstice]

given without it a revolver crit 525, with hand-cannon how much?

answer: 530

[full egret]

if you've already stacked a horde to your staff's max stacks, you get nothing

[viral solstice]

hand-cannon is a meme that adds marginal damage vs crushers and is otherwise literally useless

[olive ember]

Wildfire will basically be good with stuff that consistently generates low ish stacks of burn

[viral solstice]

except arguably for sniping but even then who cares

[olive ember]

Think blazing spirit crit void/trauma

[full egret]

I really find it hard to think about a scenario where I'm having that happen

[mortal crest]

The first one I rolled was 365 but had damage at 20% no joke.

[orchid nacelle]

show warp charged cleave FS attack plsa

[near wyvern]

Which is why you take battery with purge. But Wildfire makes Blazing Spirit more viable as a blessing.

[shadow wigeon]

Useful? No idea. Flaming Sword? yes.

[dawn sphinx]

So the wildfire feat seems pretty. . . Well, it seems hella powerful, ngl.

[olive ember]

Eh it’s not the hardest thing to imagine in especially big hordes.

[full egret]

ngl it seems cosmetic

[viral solstice]

now ur popping

[olive ember]

Or if you need to burn a pack of ragers etc.

[full egret]

still not really viable

[jovial quail]

Only time I see myself using wildfire is during like lights out or dark maps to help bring more visibility to enemies

[trail kindle]

anyone has a "BIS" purgatus loadout?

[true shadow]

update: played a heresy match while half-blind

[olive ember]

But yes imo wildfire is mid and highly overrated cuz it looks cool watching the burn spread

[true shadow]

wildfire isn't great but psyker feels less squishy

[ornate hamlet]

I see it as a bootleg flense from VT2's WHC

[olive ember]

But yeah

[true shadow]

that is all

[spice oar]

ok but the quicken buff tho?

[olive ember]

It’s something if

[true shadow]

back to kinetic flayer i go!

[olive ember]

Lol maybe go close your eyes a bit or wte

[true shadow]

Not gonna work

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, psyker does feel like a merged WHC and Sienna

[true shadow]

they hurt open or closed derpy

[full egret]

if it stacked regardless of the target's current stacks, it would be an A tier perk

[jovial quail]

Yeah I tried a run with battery but still prefer kinetic flayer overall

[olive ember]

Oh rip

[true shadow]

it's dry eyes from the smoke that wont go away for a few more days

[full egret]

for now, c tier, looks cool

[true shadow]

best i can do is keep applying warm and cold compress alternating

[olive ember]

Oh yeah it really should just be a burn cap

[true shadow]

so that my eyes stay cool enough but get enough moisture flowing

[olive ember]

Like up to 10 or wte

[true shadow]

along with saline rinses

[sour stirrup]

Hey I got a question that'll take a bit of time to answer if someone has an interest to help me out

[hard breach]

Which was unneeded. All they needed to do was make Sienna but warp fuckery and job done

[orchid nacelle]

ventilation purge irl

[shadow wigeon]

At least it applies easily and to many targets. I can see it actually being useful in horde clear if you are dodging around a lot. It's not a huge, but it's also not nothing

[true shadow]

i havent dealt with this much agony before but the halos around lights are going away, so thats all that matters to me

[full egret]

purgatus staffs stack 15

[true shadow]

LITERALLY.

IT FUCKING SUCKED.

[olive ember]

Oh yeah Ik but

[ornate hamlet]

Sienna was a boring character to play and her mechanics were meh

[olive ember]

I doubt they’d let it stack up to purge staff levels of burn

[full egret]

i find there are a lot of better weapon blessings than soul blaze ones

[olive ember]

So like 10 stacks of burn or wte

[jovial quail]

I miss my coruscation staff so much though lmao

[near wyvern]

You would be surprised how much damage it adds on trauma due to the huge explosion radius and exponential stack damage. I was already doing top damage without the update, can't wait to get scoreboard working again.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah this is about making a Flaming Sword

[gilded viper]

i died

[full egret]

never played with the scoreboard mod, but I wouldn't doubt my voidstrike was annihilating harder

[ornate hamlet]

Voidstrike enjoyer

[true shadow]

lol https://gyazo.com/22d4ff8fc8d5d991238e1264e10c8570

[full egret]

I wish they added a force sword that just did soulblaze on any hit

[true shadow]

thanks i guess hadron

[olive ember]

I’m gonna run an AB surge build now

[full egret]

I love bowling!

[true shadow]

its not the best slaughterer ever but at least if the other blessing is shit i dont have to worry about it being COMPLETELY bricked

[sour stirrup]

I kinda haven't played in a while...is everything much the same as far as loadouts go or do I need to adjust my stuff a ton?

[full egret]

how big is max size trauma btw

[near wyvern]

Blazing spirit on voidstrike is not really working. The projectile kills everything before application and the explosion radius is too small for it to matter even though you get 6 stacks on targets that cause the crit ball to explode.

[shadow wigeon]

Ok so the soul blaze kills proccing shred is helping keep Shred at max stacks

[full egret]

when I was trying it really didn't feel big enough

[hard breach]

This might just be the Pyro in me but, going bowling with Voidstrike is fun and all. But i do like watching those heretics burn with warp fire

[ornate hamlet]

Considering illisi's special ends earlier, has anyone done damage tests to see if it does more damage than deimos when spamming specials?

[topaz sable]

@near wyvern does a trauma crit only apply soulblaze to the units in the circle, or also all the units that get lightly tagged around the circle as well?

[near wyvern]

I guess guess I gotta craft a shred blazing spirit IFS then

[ornate hamlet]

Ideally it's not meant to, but Fatshark

[gilded viper]

so i found out that having quelling on headshot is a bad idea for trying to keep high peril

[full egret]

I don't use blazing spirit, ever. I use transfer peril and flurry. I can continuously fire for entire segments and mow down everything that opposes me. Flurry literally decreases peril cost lmao

[summer prairie]

@topaz sable https://streamable.com/3yb42x old without wildfire

[near wyvern]

Everything that gets staggered gets lit on crit. So even those taking 10 damage on the outer rim of outer explosion will get 3 stacks of blaze.

[topaz sable]

Wow

[shadow wigeon]

This actually feels kinda fun. Proccing warp charges from melee kills (soul blaze kills) is neat. But with new quell speeds, it's hard to imagine why I would use this over just purgatus (except for fun, obviously)

[craggy valve]

Looking at Wildfire it seems best for a psyker build that doesn't use purg but has other smaller soulfire effects

[trail kindle]

what perks nad blessings would you go on purg?

[craggy valve]

If there are always enemies that aren't on fire, the soulblaze can always spread

[near wyvern]

Transfer flurry is the go to on void. For trauma the options are flurry shockwave or nexus spirit, and due to the changes to the feats and quell speed nexus spirit is the best overall for trauma.

[orchid nacelle]

i like being able to spam trauma

mass suppression machine

[devout axle]

It'll be decent on a build using Force Sword with 'Bloodthirsty+Blazing Spirit'

[full egret]

They're not even dead >.>

[topaz sable]

I have warp nexus 4 earned on trauma, getting one with soulblaze blezzing + decent stats will unfortunately be tough

Guess damage doesn't matter though when it's putting out that many dots though

[full egret]

you need to get rid of peril reduction from warp charges for wildfire though right?

[broken quail]

Oh dang, new patch looks lit. I am so exited to actually be able to see my weapon buffs

[topaz sable]

No, you lose warp battery

The 6 warp charges

[near wyvern]

Yes, but luckily it's just a T3 so it shouldn't take too long. The most important is the charge speed but you also want the blast radius to be as good as you can. The rest is really just bonus.

[full egret]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bunny-gun-gif-23859392

HOW DARE ANYONE TOUCH MAH BATTERY

Why would I ever give that up

for wildfire >.>

[digital pagoda]

Guys, new force swords can block ranged attacks by default, is this a bug?

No deflector involved

[topaz sable]

6 warp + inner tranq still seems better than the extra damage feat, since the 2 extra warp charges gives 8% damage anyways. Unless you're not stacking charges or building around wildfire

[ornate hamlet]

now it's a feature

[topaz sable]

That sounds like a bug, surely?

[civic fox]

Everybody be real quiet about it

[broken quail]

Can they still get deflector blessing?

[topaz sable]

Yes lol

[runic hornet]

absolutely massive

[full egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dodogama-hue-laughing-gif-11979379

we say nothing siblings

[runic hornet]

trauma staff benefits strongly from most every stat being @ 80, except warp resistance maybe

since you gotta pick one stat to dump

[cyan moth]

Alright men.

[broken quail]

"pick" the shark picks for us

[cyan moth]

What's the best sword that got updated

[runic hornet]

high damage lets you hit one shot breakpoints more easily especialy with partial charges, radius is multiplicative and represents your hordeclear, charge time is massively important, quell speed because you're gonna be quelling a ton with it

[ornate hamlet]

I'mma be honest, deimos feels like they grabbed the original FS and made it better at hordes instead of single-target

[topaz sable]

Do one light into one heavy into any elite in the psykhanium, aim for the head

[ornate hamlet]

I mean that it's now the middle ground sword

[topaz sable]

They also buffed the original force sword too btw, higher damage

[kind jay]

im not so sure the innate deflector is a but. unless fats really spooged up the spaghet i think maybe they did it on purpose to see how it goes

[ornate hamlet]

I would honestly love for deflector to be part of the weapon

[near wyvern]

Warp Unleashed is +10% permanent damage boost with additional +15% based on peril mate. Unless you absolutely need inner tranq WU is the way to go.

[patent steeple]

Also, how rare is deflector anyway?

[near wyvern]

You can also one shot flamers & ragers on Damnation with BB when using WU

[runic hornet]

warp unleashed is stupid good

[kind jay]

or the intern working on it copied and pasted a pre blessed sword by mistake

who knows

[orchid nacelle]

i hope that deflector is just the standard for all FS variants moving forward

tbh

[fringe garden]

It's uncommon, but doesn't differ much between the ranks.. so that mitigates it a bit

[orchid nacelle]

it feels too important to not have

[topaz sable]

You also lose 36% peril resist for what's generally another 10% more damage. If you run warp flurry on trauma/void for example you lose your stacks if you quell

[kind jay]

eh it's decent but not really all that important

[topaz sable]

If I have to quell my trauma is no longer twice as fast at charging up

[near wyvern]

10 meter RADIUS at 100% so current max is around 8 meters. That's a 16+m DIAMETER circle.

[lucid olive]

worth upgrading or want more finesse?

[runic hornet]

trash it

finesse is too important

mobility is your dumpstat

[feral verge]

does weapon rating affect any hidden stats, like how power rating did in vt? i have a bitchin illisi sword, but it's irksome that is only 497

[clear heath]

no

[near wyvern]

Quelling is so fast you can forget about flurry with trauma. Also gives you more Toughness from quietitude when you constantly pump it up and down. Nexus Spirit is BiS for trauma and you pump it at 80-100 for max nexus stacks and almost max WU.

[crude cape]

just getting on and seeing the update, either of the new swords clearly better than the old force sword?

[viral solstice]

[near wyvern]

For void you can still run inner tranq since it already one shots trash and you want that flurry peril infinite loop

[viral solstice]

if ur running inner tranq on void

what ar eu doing with ur life

warp unleashed baby

[feral verge]

what if i prefer my warp to be leashed

[viral solstice]

ur here to strike voids

[clear heath]

more damage = better

[viral solstice]

literally

but also jokes aside u can sustain infinitely for over a minute with even a vague amount of aiming with transfer / flurry as is

[kind jay]

no, they all serve a different playstyle. illisis is horde, Deimos is single target, obscura is middle ground

[viral solstice]

inner tranq is pointless unless ur missing a lot

[topaz sable]

On trauma if I'm not running a soulblaze build than inner tranq + warpflurry still sounds better, if running soulblaze build than yeah, skip inner tranq

[viral solstice]

turbo pointless now

warp unleashed gets u bps on shotgunner one shots etc

[late yew]

Wtf is MK4 blaze damage against carapace

Why it is so high

[near wyvern]

No idea but there are talks that base stat rating affects the chances of getting more high tier blessings & perks and based on my experience this definitely is the case. 370+ weapons seem to get more consistently T3/T4 blessings and perks than 350-360 weapons when crafting.

[viral solstice]

what if hadron just hates u

[feral verge]

i've heard the same

[fresh reef]

dunno how I never noticed this but I'm def keeping it

[shadow wigeon]

BFE this is so strong now. Warp Flurry feels broken 😮

[feral verge]

seems to be the case for me too

thanks

[topaz sable]

On the flipside, you can dish out two fully charged attacks at the same speed as one with flurry 4

[viral solstice]

wait wat

[feral verge]

ikr. this thing is crazy

[shadow wigeon]

wild

[viral solstice]

inner tranq the peril resist talent

[trail kindle]

what is your "BIS" perks?

[idle bay]

Go kill some heretics with this perfect tool 🙂

[topaz sable]

Flurry 4 is 50% time reduction on staff charging, you lose your stacks if you quell thougb

[viral solstice]

yes... u dont need to quell...

[near wyvern]

So that's why you know what's behind you

[viral solstice]

because of hitting weakspots?

[topaz sable]

Trauma can't hit weakspots?

[feral verge]

what i have on that

that thing has all the BIS perks/blessings

[topaz sable]

Again I don't have a blazing spirit trauma, talking about a different build

[fresh reef]

it can, if you jank hard enough

[feral verge]

only thing is

crit chance on purga is preference

[devout axle]

So like ... rip to the mod dev who made the ShowAllBuffs mod just for its functionality to get implemented into the base game just two weeks later.

[feral verge]

crit chance or unarmored

[runic hornet]

trauma actually can in the range

[feral verge]

but those are BIS

[runic hornet]

how? I have no fucking clue

but it sometimes does

[trail kindle]

yeah i was wondering if you would keep crit chance if you could swap it for like flak or smth

[topaz sable]

Oh yeah I agree for void entirely, I ran warp unleashed on that before the update

[hybrid solstice]

wait so do all force swords defelct bullets now

[spice veldt]

did you take off flayer when testing

[viral solstice]

the comment i was responding to was talking about void and i specified void ok noice

[hybrid solstice]

what's the point of deflector lol

[spice veldt]

obscurus does not deflect by default

[viral solstice]

i blame the french

[hybrid solstice]

ohh

[spice veldt]

the other two though

[viral solstice]

emmanuel macron

specifically

but most importantly

this patch has given devil claw 10-25% more damage on psyker

[hybrid solstice]

also the illis special is like instant

[viral solstice]

its time for devil claw

[hybrid solstice]

doesnt lock you in place

[feral verge]

yeah, sorry i meant to say flak, not unarmored. as in, it's a toss up between flak vs crit chance

[viral solstice]

force sword lmao we clawin

[crude cape]

how is this, its my old one? should i recraft a better one?

[idle bay]

Devs using free labor of mod makers - simple as 🙂

[worn cypress]

wait the other two deflect by default?

[trail kindle]

alright thank you

[spice veldt]

yup; probably just an oversight

[feral verge]

i go with crit chance because purga actually does bonus damage to flak already @trail kindle

[spice veldt]

presumably they used some old stuff to build these two new force swords, because they also carry an old bug where swapping to melee made you move faster for a moment

[worn cypress]

lol classic fatshark

[gilded viper]

wow this is cool

[topaz sable]

Is crit chance worth it on purg? I'm always unsure whether most damage is coming from dot or the actual attack

[summer prairie]

all FS have ranged blocking by default, they had to basically make an exception to make it require deflector

I guess they added it later

[trail kindle]

what melee would you go with purg set up? i presume the mk5 force sword focusing on single target?

[feral verge]

because it's a high crit weapon that benefits from crit, yeah imo. in high int damn games i can get over 1.2k crits

[jovial quail]

@topaz sable Last time I checked (which was a while ago) crits added extra stacks of soulflame and it got bonkers

[summer prairie]

Look at that overkill with Illisi (+surge)

[topaz sable]

That's really neat if accurate

[jovial quail]

5% crit with a good Warp nexus can make your build go freaking insane

[stable silo]

why does melks have 4x claw swords what does it mean

claw sword next meta?

[hybrid solstice]

peril quells so fast now trauma can really do work

[jovial quail]

@stable silo Luck of the draw, I have like 6 guns in there right now.

He pretty much gives me everything except staves

[karmic reef]

Is extra stamina good on weapon perks?

[feral verge]

i was running dueling sword mk4. but now im running illisi. ik it may be strange to run 2 horde clear wps, but i like it. illisi does enough single target damage to satisfy me. im not opposed to use a godroll deimos if i get one, or if feel like changing sometihng up

[sonic coral]

Illisi?

[feral verge]

one of the new swords

[sonic coral]

Ah

[crude cape]

Ok the illisi is totally different, it lets you power swipe through multiple enemies like the vets power sword. Thats dope
the deimos and the old obscurus both stop and do high dmg to the first target. Can't really feel the difference between those two.

What staff do you guys think would pair best with the illisi force sword? I feel like you wouldn't want purgatis staff

but maybe it would be good with lightning staff?

[lethal lagoon]

I love heavy sword so Illy is such an unexpected joy. Going to grind psyker hard again.

[feral verge]

im smashing with purga + illisi

[lethal lagoon]

If you are feeling lazy surge, but it goes really well with trauma because trauma get's overwhelmed sometimes.

[crude cape]

feels kinda like overkill tho

purgatis already good at horde

[gilded viper]

ok point blank on revolver fucking suck, wish it last longer then 2.5sec

[crude cape]

and the weakness of it for me is berserkers andf stuff running through so i like the single target blaze swords

[lethal lagoon]

I like all or nothing axes for purg because of breakpoints.

[magic burrow]

Im reading through the changelist and wow, there's some really neat stuff for psykers

[feral verge]

i like how illisi doesnt lock oyu in place

and it does enough single target dmg for me

i BB bulwarks and ogryns anyway so

dont need sword for them

[lethal lagoon]

you'd thnk 4-5% damage doesn't matter, but it's really noticeable on purg and BBs.

[feral verge]

this is the feat setup im using

[fierce sinew]

So I just woke up and saw the patch notes, is all damage really all damage? Soulblaze, brainburst?

[magic burrow]

The new Wildfire feat sounds really neat

[crude cape]

im returning since the crafting updates and the new white item shop.
is this a decent base to craft from or keep buying more whites?

[clear heath]

yeah that's fair but
Mutants

[idle bay]

YAY! After all this time T2 Slaughtere at least...

[feral verge]

6 stacks of warp + warp unleashed + unstable power

[clear heath]

takes way too many BB to kill a mutant when a sword special actually just one shots them

[feral verge]

my illisi is doing idk over 70% more damage

thus, i dont need extra single target dmg from deimos

[idle bay]

There are 6 (!!!!!) Force swords in Armory shop at once! Unbelivable!

[timid storm]

How does our new sword compare to a power sword?

[crude cape]

do you charge every swing, or charge swing a few times then charge again?

[timid storm]

New horde clear sword + soulblaze seems like such a good combo

[feral verge]

i found i only need to charge for 1 or 2 swings

[spice veldt]

yup

[feral verge]

then slaughterer + unstable power kick in. then the sword is just cleaving through everything, like a heavy sword

[fierce sinew]

actual decisions to make about feats?

[feral verge]

my illisi

[fierce sinew]

wild

is warp flurry fix also real this time?

surely they wouldn't fake fix it again

[summer prairie]

works on both purg and surge

[crude cape]

deflector not worth it? i always liked it

[trail kindle]

@crude cape at first glance i feel like id prefer deimos since it's more mobile with better dodge distance, i guess it's my personal preference

[shadow wigeon]

It’s real and wild.

[trail kindle]

sry wrong person

[trail kindle]

@feral verge i meant

[fierce sinew]

godlike patch

[gilded viper]

why get deflector when it build in due to a bug/feature

[topaz sable]

does blazing spirit for trauma have multiple levels or just one?

like 1/2/3/4

[crude cape]

which is a better base for crafting? similar, but the 370 one has higher attck dmg

[spice veldt]

t3 and t4 only I think? I forget if that was the force sword variant or if the staff variant is t3 only

[distant lynx]

the one with more fin

[runic hornet]

not enough damage to make a diff on breakpoints pretty sure

higher finesse is too good

[crude cape]

what does finesse do

[runic hornet]

attack speed

[spice veldt]

and crit/weakspot multiplier

[clear hamlet]

do you guys gamba if you get a good perk but a shit blessing or no

[ornate hamlet]

I got saved from dying because I remembered the bugged deflector on a sword I didn't bless with it

[runic stream]

whats new force sword all about

[ornate hamlet]

I was like "shit shit shit shit WAIT A MINUTE"

[rocky cedar]

There are two bro

Start by reading patch notes

[crude cape]

so im still figuring out how to efficiently craft

i got it to this

not the best blessing/perk, tbh

so do you restart now?

or go to purple and see if the secondary stuff is good

[trail kindle]

if you want to be efficient then yes trash it

[crude cape]

and then reroll blessings etc if it is?

[trail kindle]

if you want to gamba and see if you roll a good blessing then go all the way

[rocky cedar]

Infested might be a good perk for it TBH

And slaughterer is the main blessing you want so that can still be good

[digital narwhal]

Would a Blazing Sprit + Shred Illisi FS with Wildfire be a decent thing to build into?

[runic stream]

did they also add a staff

bruh i cant see it in armory

[rocky cedar]

Read
Patch
Notes

[runic stream]

there is only one

[crude cape]

so would go to legendary, get the 2nd blessing. If its good reroll the first and can reroll the worst perk too is the strat?
or just stop here and try again until i get a good 1st blessing guaranteed?
just making sure i have the sort of thought process down

[spice veldt]

here are the patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/content-drop-tools-of-war/77097

[rocky cedar]

It's a shame Psyker can't use shotguns cause I have a feeling Kantrael would be pretty nasty on Psyker

[trail kindle]

my personal preference if I am trying to roll a "god roll" would be restart at blue if it doesnt have 1 of the 2 perks and blessings i am looking for

if it hits a good blessing at blue and a trash perk at green, i try to go purple to see if it hits the perk

otehrwise trash

[digital narwhal]

?

[clear hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-be-only-one-highlander-gif-12213479

[runic stream]

oh, no new staves

[digital narwhal]

Two new FSs though

And they're both good iirc

[rocky cedar]

You'd want bloodthirsty + blazing for that combo to do much

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait yeah

[runic stream]

deimos looks kinda clunky

[digital narwhal]

Bloodthirsty

Forgot about that

[runic stream]

hit animations

[digital narwhal]

Yeah I'll do that

Cheers

[spice veldt]

fyi, they nerfed bloodthirsty on the force sword to be the same as on the chain weapons

[rocky cedar]

But yeah that + wildfire should theoretically be a good combo

[long wharf]

are you sure?

[spice veldt]

not that it matters much for the illisi i suppose

yup

[long wharf]

maaaan I knew it was going to happen

[spice veldt]

tested it out in the grinder

[long wharf]

rip blazing spirit fsword fun

[spice veldt]

f

[rocky cedar]

Yeah it's only 1 guaranteed crit now

[long wharf]

I have nothing to live for now

[spice veldt]

there is no hope in this world

no light or warmth

[long wharf]

except, just maybe, getting blazing spirit on the surge staff

[rocky cedar]

Illisi brings it back up to bring better than what it was in all likelihood

[digital narwhal]

Would Ascendant Blaze be worth bringing as well?
Since Level 30 Feats aren't exactly all that build defining outside of Purgatus Staff + AB.

[long wharf]

Illisi?

[digital narwhal]

Help with Warp Charges and let me delete far away groups of shooters.

[rocky cedar]

Yeah would definitely be a solid choice

[digital narwhal]

New Force Sword

It's like the Power Sword

[long wharf]

oh, the new cleaving fsword

[rocky cedar]

Yeah the one with specials that cleave

[long wharf]

but it's still just one swing

oh, but could continuously proc

hmm

[rocky cedar]

Yeah but you special heavy heavy and the second heavy gonna reliably proc soul blaze

[long wharf]

but won't let you massively stack on single target

[feral verge]

illisi and deimo apparently both have deflector on, by default, regardless of blessing. probably a bug. i dont mind deflector, but i enjoy the power blessings for insane cleave + dmg boost

[rocky cedar]

Then wildfire spreads it

[crude cape]

so is this the new build? using purgatis and illisi

[long wharf]

god the codebase is such a shitshow

[crude cape]

oh shit really, free defelctor? crazy

[digital narwhal]

Cool; I'll see if I can maybe get a Blazing Spirit Trauma Staff too, simply because thematic builds are fun

[feral verge]

you are gonna want quietitude

[long wharf]

this is precisely what's wrong with using a scripting language for the entire gameplay codebase

[fierce sinew]

this is my hour 1 first impression

[dusky bear]

https://tenor.com/view/yessss-hell-yeah-brother-gif-22960551

[rocky cedar]

Illisi + Purg seems like horde overkill

[viral solstice]

see i told u

i made it happen

i went to the fat shark

and i said

the fat shark

[rocky cedar]

I'd probably try Deimos with purg

[viral solstice]

fix this peril shit

and they were like

ok the angry crab we, the fat shark, will do it

[rocky cedar]

You're the hero we need crab

[crude cape]

really? i kinda always went back and forth but ya that seems good alright

[digital narwhal]

If you wanna use Illisi, try Surge or Trauma with it

[crude cape]

i kinda agree, that was my first thought but someone was saying its not

[digital narwhal]

Or even just a Shredder Autopistol

[viral solstice]

(i actually did bug report that the way i did last time and it got fixed but they ignored some of the other stuff so i will still say it was me)

[dusky bear]

id hug you if it wouldnt crush you

[rocky cedar]

He is strong crab

It'll be ok

[feral verge]

heavy special with illisi with warp unleashed + unstable power + 6 warp stacks

[crude cape]

people use trauma now? was it buffed? void staff and ligfhtning staff were mostly meta and purgatis was gaining tractgion when i stopped p-layed. Is trauma better than void?

[rocky cedar]

He is empowered by rashad

[viral solstice]

[dusky bear]

no more endless preil edging to be effective with crit

[rocky cedar]

Trauma was always good

[shadow wigeon]

I just tried flaming illisis with Purg and it's not useful

[digital narwhal]

Trauma doesn't take your entire Peril meter to use now, so yeah

[topaz sable]

trauma uses significantly less peril than it did when it came out

[shadow wigeon]

There's no time to use it

[digital narwhal]

The only issue before was Peril cost

[spice veldt]

trauma had its peril generation cut from 47% down to around 24.45% at 80% warp res

[crude cape]

hows void staff compared to trauma?

[viral solstice]

void staff shoot blob

it is best general purpose damage staff

[dusky bear]

trauma is based. it just ignores armor entirely, so you could delete groups of crushers/maulers in a hoard situation

[viral solstice]

which is what it should be

[crude cape]

ya i always liked void > trauma

but i guess trauma got buffed

[viral solstice]

trauma better in its niche which it should be

void strike more flexible

[digital narwhal]

Better horde clear and range, but can't quite explode blobs of enemies like Trauma can.

[crude cape]

cool alright

[feral verge]

a good voidstaff will help prevent you from getting into clutch situations. a good trauma staff can carry you through clutch situations. my 2 cents. both are good

[topaz sable]

I prefer trauma personally, I like the circle more than only hitting things in a line

[crude cape]

last question, i dont have a good lightning staff. What blessings* do you want on one?

[unreal sedge]

does anyone have a VOIDSTRIKE with sruge blessing? does it really shoot 2 bolt with second fire too or just primary?

[shadow wigeon]

Also tried Wildfire vs Battery, and wildfire is definitely adding stacks, I really miss AB with 5 stacks.

[rocky cedar]

Trauma is better control and nicer for sniping bursters out of dense horde

And better against grouped armour generally

[dusky bear]

time to test out blazing soul and see if its worth using now with those crit changes

[shadow wigeon]

+crit if you have high crit already and warp nexus, you can lean into lots of crits. +flak or maniac since you'll be zapping them regularly. Perks aren't critical for a good one.

[timber shale]

Quicken is actually good now, this patch is wild

[fierce sinew]

any new bb breakpoints from warp unleashed? Flamers, ragers, bursters were close

[shadow wigeon]

It works, but there's no time to use it with a Flurry Purg staff.

[crude cape]

SO warp nexus is + crit, and what else with it though? Sorry if i misunderstood

[spice oar]

btw can we use the shotguns?

no right?

[spice veldt]

nope

psyker arms are too weak for shotguns

[shadow wigeon]

If you rolled high crit on the staff, you can lean into crit even more. Nexus gest stacks at 50% and 2 stacks at 97% peril. So if you run Nexus, be ready to unleash lightning at max peril so max bonus.

I you don't have high crit, just lean into damage. +Flak will make flak kills even faster. +Maniac won't make a huge difference, but you will be shocking a lot of maniacs.

[spice oar]

fair, my zealot must hold onto them then

[timber shale]

If you’re just spamming uncharged attacks, I think warp nexus + terrifying barrage is the way

[shadow wigeon]

Surge staff doesn't rely on perks as much. Nexus and Barrage are strong blessings.

[crude cape]

i meant blessings

sorry

i just call eevrything perks

nexus and barrage

ok cool ty

[clear hamlet]

mfw I'm too lazy to reinstall all the mods

[crude cape]

i didnt even realize you could mod this game to be honest

[runic stream]

do voidstrike staff rely on blessings

[crude cape]

what are some of the best mods

[vale creek]

hellofellowpsykers opinion about the recent changes?

how do you like the new swords?

[devout moon]

Illisi is super strong

[timber shale]

Transfer Peril is really good on it, but I don’t think it’s as necessary as other people do

[devout moon]

Love it

[vale creek]

im really not amazed about the Illisi missing the charged attack to have cool anims

[crude cape]

is there a mod that adds like, amoujnt of kills etc of each person at the end

👀

[devout moon]

Not sure what the consensus on the Deimos is yet

[whole oxide]

Illi is interesting, but, I think I would still take a duelling sword over it. Its base moves are good, but the special is underwhelming. Deimos I honestly can't feel any difference from Obscurus

[crude cape]

do i do these from steamworkshop or like nexus mods

[devout moon]

Illisi hits surprisingly hard for a cleave weapon, it's basically a power sword

[shadow wigeon]

So... Flaming Illisi does have a weird benefit. Soulblaze ticks are proccing Shred. So when you have blaze going, Shred will pick up free stacks from blaze ticks. Shred seems to stay at max basically, or instantly to max.

[stable silo]

@crude cape just get numeric ui animation events preview cosmetics scoreboard and of course mod framework and mod loader

[shadow wigeon]

It's.. silly, but it's not insigificant damage buff

[leaden thunder]

so

now that bloodthirsty is fucked

[stable silo]

Theres a ton of mods on nexus but those are like the basics that are just good info

[feral verge]

shame about unstable power 2

[leaden thunder]

what is the best second damage blessing for the force sword

[stable silo]

Blazing spirit sean go all in

[feral verge]

should i get maniac 25, or unyielding 25? or replace one with flak?

[leaden thunder]

[crude cape]

im looking on nexus mods right now, i can't tell what UI animation does? Is it just a framework/database thing for other mods to work?

[stable silo]

Yes

[shadow wigeon]

It may be Shread? Unstable is a bit weaker now with fast quell

[stable silo]

Just make sure to either get vortex for auto mod loading or just do it manually like plebs, im a pleb

[feral verge]

my money is on unstable power

[stable silo]

Manually means entering the accurate mod names in the mod loader text file

[feral verge]

its guaranteed extra damage

and its ez to keep peril up

especially on illisi

you can spam the special to build peril

unlike the other fs

[leaden thunder]

ngl

[viral solstice]

unstable power is cool because its unstable power

[leaden thunder]

I do hope we actually use differnt set ups on the differnt force swords

makes things more interesting

[crude cape]

is there a mod loader or something, or do i need to wait for this timer to do the 'slow manual download" on each one?

[viral solstice]

the tooltip on force sword

[stable silo]

Vortex its not on nexus mods but approved by them i didnt even bother with it cause Just copy paste the mod names into the loaders text file one time then whenever u update the mod loader copy them before u overwrite

[civic fox]

alright folks whats the new meta

[viral solstice]

everything got buffed do what u want

nobody can stop u

psykers run the asylum now

[stable silo]

Blazing spirit anything wildfire tier 6 approved

[sonic coral]

am I being mandela effect'd or what, the patch notes and everyone talking about stuff keeps talking about "warp unleashed" - what is that? I assume by context people are referring to Psykinetic's Wrath?

[fierce sinew]

when I hop on later 111112 purg is the first thing I'm trying

[sonic coral]

AFAICT there is NOTHING called "warp unleashed"

[spice veldt]

they renamed the top lvl10 feat

[fierce sinew]

check the feat names, a lot of them have changed since launch

[sonic coral]

oh okay, thank you lol

[fierce sinew]

well, some anyway

[spice veldt]

no this is an elaborate gaslighting campaign

[sonic coral]

losing my mind over here reading people talking about new builds ha

[peak grotto]

They renamed it because it had the same name as the ult

[sonic coral]

wish they would have thought about some of this confusingly named crap before launch but whatcha gonna do

[fierce sinew]

yeah they mainly fixed ambiguous name overlap

[sonic coral]

stop being swedish dummy

[fierce sinew]

same with aura

[peak grotto]

I'm at work so I can't purge heretics. What is the piercing sword's moveset?

[viral solstice]

ok yea grey deimos kills 20 poxwalkers about rampage 4 orange devil claw speed

wowee

[haughty bough]

hadron has blessed me what should i swap unyielding to?

[viral solstice]

cant go wrong with flak

[near wyvern]

Wait till you see their code where warp charges are called souls and peril is called warp charge

[rocky cedar]

Or maniac

[haughty bough]

tru

[haughty bough]

also tru

[viral solstice]

not just in code

aint nobody going to heaven when this psyker presses f

[near wyvern]

This is not the first time, Kinetic Shielding used to say it scales with warp charges when it scaled with peril

[magic burrow]

that reads like an AI generated skill description

[viral solstice]

are swedes ai

[crude cape]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11cod2i/guide_how_to_install_mods_in_darktide_w_gifs/

following this, and ngl this is not that simple. Never had to go through this much for mods

Do I need to put Darktide Mod Framework, Animation Events and all those in the text file at the end too? Or only the "real" mods like Numeric UI or scoreboard? He doesn't make it super clear

[gilded viper]

OMG a horde and single target force sword. Am spoiled

[shadow wigeon]

I would take maniac BUT there are builds that may be able to skip it, so you could hold off. Bloodthirsty has been nerfed to one hit now.

[haughty bough]

i c ty

[stable hare]

inner tranquility or warp unleashed atm?

[feral verge]

definitely warp unleashed

it increases all your damage by 10%, at 0 peril

and goes all the way to 25%

[clear heath]

I put stuff like animation events yeah. I put them at the top in case they need to load earlier though
You don't need to include Darktide Mod Framework though. It says so in the file

[gilded linden]

Wildfire is really broken I love it

[stable hare]

broken in a good way?

[late yew]

now everyone and their mothers are psykers...

[gilded linden]

Yeah

[gilded viper]

I already saw 2-3 psykers per match

[shy crag]

Does anyone know if this blessing is still bugged for the Trauma staff? Also when it says +8 Brittleness, is that literally just +8%? or is 1 Brittleness the equivilant to 5%? so its actually 40% Rending on a full charge there for that T4 blessing?

[gilded linden]

Literally just set someone on fire once and then it spreads

[leaden thunder]

8 stacks

so 8 * 5%

[stable silo]

@crude cape download darktide mod loader extract to main game file then download mod framework then download the mods you want to use and extra them to the added mod folder then just open the mod load order text file and enter all mods other than the mod loader and the mod framework then make sure to run the toggle mod file

[leaden thunder]

so 40%

hit 5 instead of 4 there

[spice veldt]

smh

[frigid pond]

Has the damage of soulfire itself gotten better? I havent really kept up just read the patch notes

[stable silo]

@crude cape the instructions are also in the file descriptions on nexus mods including screen shots to show you how the files should look

[shy crag]

That sounds pretty good to me, yet I heard before it was bugged and didn't apply properly?

[frigid pond]

I just recall in the past soulblaze was kinda sad

[leaden thunder]

so truama doesn't really get benefit from it

as it does 100% damage against most things execpt like poxies

it's more for team support or so you can swap t oyour melee and deal with something

[near wyvern]

Nexus spirit trauma with wildfire is the way to go

[leaden thunder]

that sounds

really fun

actually

[near wyvern]

Trauma deals with single targets already, nexus spirit wildifre deals with the horde as well

[crude cape]

ty i thiunk i finally figured it out

testing it now

[near wyvern]

Short video of a horde with it

https://youtu.be/3FmAcILS7PQ

[mental rock]

will essence harvest replenish 60% toughness instead of 30% if you have quicken?

[robust meteor]

new swords feel nice. def going to make surge more viable in damnation

[runic stream]

which blessing is best for deimos force sword

[timber shale]

It isn’t bugged. The brittleness applies properly, it just doesn’t affect the Trauma staff damage because it’s already penetrating armor. If you hit with the staff and then swap to your melee, you’ll notice that it does more damage because of the brittleness

[stable silo]

@crude cape np its complicated to start but once u figured out how to do one the rest is super easy

[timber shale]

Probably not. Essence harvest doesn’t stack. Getting a new warp charge just refreshes the duration.

[shy crag]

Ah I think I get it now, as Sean alluded to, it's not helping you but it is potentially helping the teams damage then.

[mental rock]

ah I see

[runic stream]

?

[civic fox]

maybe now i can finally get Pick N Mix

with the new modifier

[leaden thunder]

slaughterer + something

same as the normal one

[timber shale]

Yeah slaughterer is just BiS on all force swords

[leaden thunder]

if a weapon can roll sluaghterer

sluaghterer is bis

no question

shit is so strong still

[unborn drift]

sorry still kinda new but would this be salvageable? I want to say probably if i rolled stamina into flak and changed one of the blessings?

[shy crag]

Did they finally fix Warp Flurry by the way? I remember it was a bit weird on surge+trauma staffs

[haughty bough]

yes its fuckin absurd now lol

[runic stream]

yeah i have slaughterer

[civic fox]

I need to get better staves, I think I have warp flurry 3 on my purge

My default FS has slaughter 4 so I might kill him to slap on the new one

[leaden thunder]

just make stamina into flak (maybe maniac idk about the new one) and either blessing to sluaghterer

[unborn drift]

ty, any preference on which to keep?

[shy crag]

maybe switch out Shred into Slaughterer since you'll probably not be chaining many attacks with the force sword, instead using its push attack a lot. Honestly though both crit blessings are decent.

the force swords blocks and push attacks are really strong, presumably you'd be using it a lot and that then would break up any chained attacks.

[runic stream]

what are some good voidstrike blessings

[fresh reef]

maybe I'm missing the point a bit, but what niche is the Deimos supposed to fall into?

[haughty bough]

stab

[unborn drift]

thanks for the help!

[leaden thunder]

massive amounts of single target damage

apperantly

[whole oxide]

its single target doesn't appear to be better than obscurus tho, at least not meaningfully

[shy crag]

Warp Flurry and Transfer Peril, it's a LOT of fun.

[summer prairie]

deimos heavy 2 does a ton of damage compared to obscurus

[shy crag]

assuming warp flurry does indeed work fine now.

[summer prairie]

without activationj

[whole oxide]

yeah, but, why would you not activate

[gilded viper]

Would +carapace be good on the deimos you think?

[summer prairie]

because the heavy 2 already one-shots a lot of things

[feral verge]

i only tried one round with deimos

but i prefer illisi tbh

(using with purga)

[runic stream]

yeah its quite fun

[gilded viper]

Illisi with blazing spirit might be a fun af build with purge and the new wildfire

Go all in on dot spreading

[robust relic]

you siblings going to swap up your force swords?

[haughty bough]

ive done nothing but use illis for 4 hours

[robust relic]

I suppose illis would be nice with lightning staff, since it's bad at hordes

[shadow wigeon]

it is fun, but there's no time to use it now if you have Flurry Purg

[whole oxide]

trouble with wildfire is the 4 stack cap, its not really enough to kill anything on its own, and it'll take a very long time to even reduce HP to change your breakpoints

[grizzled birch]

Hi Siblings. For re-blessing, if you replace a blessing, lets say with warp flurry tier 2, are you able to later on replace that tier 2 warp flurry with tier 3 or tier 4 warp flurry?

[shadow wigeon]

Once you replace one blessing, you will be able to replace it as many times as you like. The OTHER blessing will be locked, however.

[grizzled birch]

Oh ok, thank you!

[near wyvern]

Not really because you kill everything so fast with it

[gilded viper]

Fair point

Slaughterer + deflector it is!!!

[haughty bough]

i cannot recommend slaughterer + bloodthirsty enough

this thing shreds hordes

[shadow wigeon]

I think for Purg that is the best pair

[feral verge]

bllodthirsty nerfed

[haughty bough]

yes but

[feral verge]

i like unstable power + slaughterer

[haughty bough]

you get it every attack if you use the special every hit

[gilded viper]

Yah let me just magic up bloodthirsty into my available blessings.

[silent trout]

i thought the nerf was just that you needed to make sure you hit something within the 5s?

[near wyvern]

Unstable needs a buff

[haughty bough]

just get lucky and roll it on your first illis like me 🙂

[feral verge]

unstable power + 6 charges + warp unleashed

(With illisi)

2 shots muties with heavy special

good nuff for me

cuz i BB the mutie as he comes in

[viral solstice]

unstable power is goof af but they need to add stabilisers to it

[feral verge]

so its a 1 hit for me

[viral solstice]

if it was stable power

i think more ppl would take it

[feral verge]

unstable power is goofy on other swords

[viral solstice]

i meant good

[feral verge]

but withi llisi, itss really easy to keep max peril

[viral solstice]

its good on everything

its the ultimate

on every single weapon

its all or nothing but its just all

u dig

[feral verge]

cuz withi llisi you can spam the special charge

looks like u jerk off the blade

[viral solstice]

u look god in the eye at 100% peril

and u press that fuckin special button

and as u explode ur smiling

[gilded viper]

Well I guess it’s preference then? Deflector for utility vs unstable power for the memes, with slaughter with both of course

[feral verge]

not preference

the objectively right call is whatever im using at the time

[viral solstice]

utility vs memes - only one is the true choice

[feral verge]

and rn im using slaughterer and unstable power

[gilded viper]

I like both of the new swords tho, nor sure what the Obscurus is good for now though

[feral verge]

so using something other than that is wrong, offensive and is actually throwing the game

[robust relic]

ive done nothing but teleport bread

[near wyvern]

Only happened like three times in one game for me

[gilded viper]

For three days?

[viral solstice]

then ur not doing it hard enough

[shadow wigeon]

I don't think unstable is a meme, it's pretty decent

[viral solstice]

only once in 3 games step it up

u have 2 wounds for a reason

minimum 1 splosion per game

[robust relic]

that is perhaps my favorite video of all time

[gilded viper]

We were gonna get an adult swim show, but valve took too long, per usual.

[robust relic]

valve was valve

[feral verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpeGwhLdDmY

look how fast

[viral solstice]

u cut the clip before the explosion

classic

bet we have to pay for the rest

[feral verge]

plasteel accepted only

[gilded viper]

Man Deflector vs unstable actually does sound like a fun choice. I’ll probably just farm a sword with each, and a good elite slayer Deimos while im at it

[robust relic]

unstable is just 2-5% power though? why is that worth it? seems so low

[feral verge]

it stacks

[full egret]

What’s the total

[feral verge]

25% extra power at 80% peril

if oyu have t4 unstable power

[robust relic]

how does it stack? its a passive...

[summer prairie]

20%

[haughty bough]

its 5% per 20% peril

[feral verge]

if you look at my video

[robust relic]

oh, needs better wording haha

[haughty bough]

the tooltip is not very clear

[feral verge]

you will see the unstable power icon buff pop up

as peril raises

[viral solstice]

yes usntable power is very good

it turns out deterministically just getting a bunch of power with no setup

is cool

the average value is v high

its also very useful for being able to guarantee certain one shots

[full egret]

Huh. So unstable does your entire kit even if it’s not out?

[viral solstice]

depending on ur setup

[gilded viper]

So right now I’m thinking Illios w Purge, and talents 112122. Any thoughts?

[shadow wigeon]

When it is out

[full egret]

Ah…..

[feral verge]

24% damage from 6 warp charges + 25% damage from warp unleashed + 25% from t4 unstable power. now that's alotta power

[full egret]

Guess the post I read was when it was bugged

[shadow wigeon]

Wildfire not worth, IMO.

[robust relic]

illisi and purge do the same thing - kill hordes, personally I like to have one weapon for hordes, one for elites

[shadow wigeon]

6 stack AB > Wildfire

[full egret]

I was thinking that would be fun to cosplay as a zealot lol

[civic fox]

I DID IT SIBLINGS I GOT PICK N MIX

[viral solstice]

the other thing is that power gives u cleave so if u have slaught unstable power u can chop pretty hard

[vernal frost]

wildfire is really good for passive horde clear

[gilded viper]

I mean going all in on horde damage doesn’t seem bad. Purge is fine at elite damage, and since Illios doesn’t get stuck on mobs, it can do some fair chip on mixed hordes

[gilded viper]

Congrats

[vernal frost]

y no quietude

and psykinetic aura is kinda ass

[robust relic]

strangely not bad for low base level, worth investing?

[blissful mural]

lies

[gilded viper]

I’ve always liked the toughness regen on stacks as opposed to the lesser regen on clearing peril.
Psykinetic Aura isn’t bad whatsoever

[shadow wigeon]

It is not.

[gilded viper]

Having anybody clearing elites be able to use their special spam is great

[full egret]

4 stacks doesn’t really kill walkers though

[feral verge]

wildfire is good for horde clear. warp battery is good for everything

[gilded viper]

I’ll probably go back to Warp Battery instead of Wildfire, I do like the new talent tho, maybe someday.

[vernal frost]

honestly they're both really good but warp battery will get you a breakpoint for burning any shooter with ab ult

[feral verge]

i prefer the one thats good for everything

[blissful mural]

psy aura stacks so well with quietide

[vernal frost]

and wildfire will make sure the horde never stops burning

[kind jay]

this is a good roll

[full egret]

I seriously don’t see how you think this

[vernal frost]

https://streamable.com/r7rxc8

wonder how we got here huh

[gilded viper]

Quietude is fine, but I get enough warp charges that Essence Harvest is my preferred

[runic hornet]

wildfire takes forever but it's fairly hilarious

it can do some work in kiting situations where you're abusing verticality

and it can honestly tick long enoug hto change breakpoints

[summer prairie]

Wildfire isn't in most cases going to kill anything on its own but it lets purg or AB start from x stacks instead of 0

[near wyvern]

Actual horde at damnation

https://youtu.be/3FmAcILS7PQ

[vernal frost]

it also weakens the horde a lot and makes it easier to clear

plus you're not gonna be standing there watching the fire spread

ofc you're gonna chime in

[feral verge]

AB will just delete the horde with warp battery

[near wyvern]

1 stack? No. But if you have blazing spirit on staff or use AB then yes.

[rose lily]

wow huge dodge distance between deimos and illisi, damage diff too

[vernal frost]

I use ab+purgatus so in my case it's great stuff

[wise pecan]

AB will, realistically speaking, delete a wedge of the horde (which if the Horde is meaty enough will just be instantly filled in). Sure, Wildfire isn’t likely to be enough to kill enemies on its own, but in a horde it’ll be practically self-sustaining, and will lower the breakpoints for everyone else

[full egret]

Who isn’t one shotting horde though?

[robust relic]

They have diff usecases
Ess Harv - I am with my group hosing down a horde with purg and Psy Communion/Ascendant Blaze is is funneling a million warp charges into me and I'm basically unkillable with all the passive toughness gen
Quietude - my team has yoloed into the next room leaving me behind, I'm cut off and I need toughness, I have no time to pop a head but I can get a bit of toughness by quelling and stay alive

[full egret]

Oggy, Vet and Zealot all one shot melee horde

[wise pecan]

On Damnation? Everyone. Not even power sword one-shots horde with cleave hits

[full egret]

And a psyker will typically still be blasting. A Voidstrike one shots them too

[full egret]

Eh?

EHHHH?

EXCUSE ME?

[wise pecan]

Unless they happened to have Jesus Christ bless them with t4 slaughterer I guess

[viral solstice]

ok look bear with me here

[real silo]

can i get a summary of what to build on damnation with psyker right now?

[viral solstice]

it looks like

[full egret]

My powersword kills everything in one shot

[viral solstice]

that flame is spreading like

wild fire

[vernal frost]

Wait until you hear until cleave damage falloff on subsequent targets

[full egret]

I don’t even have t4 slaughter

Or power cycle

[vernal frost]

honestly I don't know why they haven't made you a warden yet

you're a pillar for this community

[viral solstice]

idk i think its anti-crab speciesm

i run into it a lot

[near wyvern]

Now you are comparing killing everything in the melee range of you in one shot with killing everything in a 30m cone in front of you in one shot. It's a bit different thing.

[vernal frost]

sadge

[viral solstice]

im out here doing hard work in the posting mines every day

[fiery zodiac]

Man I hate Crabs

[viral solstice]

this is what i mean its disgraceful what is acceptable

[vernal frost]

you take that back right now

[viral solstice]

[full egret]

They don’t die instantly if you’re referring to AB. However I do agree with you if you’re referring to a Voidstrike

[wise pecan]

As the other guy said: cleave damage falls off. Yes, power sword one-shots the first one or two guys, but often not the fifth or sixth (especially if they’re armor goons). Wildfire helps fix that

[full egret]

Love killing an entire horde with one bowling ball

[viral solstice]

i mean i think u gotta be careful with power sword

because power sword uh

[vernal frost]

yeah

[viral solstice]

its cleave distribution minimum

is unusually fucked

and when i say unusually fucked

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10v8Xq0J87ijQf/d1337jpPyDT4?invite=cr-MSwydUMsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

i mean unusually fucked

[full egret]

So what you’re saying is all powerswords I’ve received are all god rolls?

[viral solstice]

but we put power sword aside because its a spaghetti weapon made for vets (illegal baby fish)

fishworshipper is typing

fuk

im sorry i didnt mean it

[wise pecan]

Video’s not loading, Wha harpoon?

[viral solstice]

i kill 50 450hp melee cultists in 8 seconds with a midroll power sword

but power sword is a special case

[full egret]

Didn’t FS state that the powersword charge is supposed to do full damage to 8-9 targets?

[wise pecan]

Oh nice

[near wyvern]

Don't poop on vets, we need a newb class so that the newbies stay around. More buffs for vets is good for player base.

[viral solstice]

basically the extreme limiting factor is the minimum cleave

[gloomy yarrow]

Well don’t make him op

[viral solstice]

and power sword both charged and uncharged min cleave is pretty swag

[full egret]

Too late lmao

[viral solstice]

i would never poop on a vet

[gloomy yarrow]

Vet apologizist

[vernal frost]

The amount of targets yeah, the damage falloff is still there

[full egret]

Alright, well

[viral solstice]

and idk how long bull butcher is going to survive in its current state

[wise pecan]

My power sword must just have bad cleave stats, been a minute since I’ve looked at it

[full egret]

I think I have one counter point to wild fire. If there’s a vet on the team, they’re gonna be running this

[viral solstice]

and heavy sword is also kind of fucked

[near wyvern]

TBF in the light of recent buffs Psykers are pretty busted ATM

[viral solstice]

anyway the point is

[full egret]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-grenades-peter-familyguy-family-gif-9926709

[viral solstice]

everything is illegal

illisi is cool

because its cool

unlike those other boring weapons

u can set ppl on fire with it

what more do u want

[shadow wigeon]

I'm less convinced Unstable Power is that great now. Passive quell is so fast, it's hard to keep unstable up.

[vernal frost]

you love to see it

[full egret]

Vets always gonna grenade that horde and kill it easy

[viral solstice]

really depends on ur primary and how high peril u play tbh

[near wyvern]

Like even with all the nerfs we were pulling a lot of weight. And now these buffs... Good Psykers just gonna paint the floor.

[full egret]

Ah, that’s a shame

[kind jay]

bloodthirst slaughter llisi goes brrrrr

[viral solstice]

i get 100% uptime on 100 peril because i love dying

some people are against dying (weak)

[vernal frost]

You're still going to use it to do back-to-back bbs so it's going to work

[wise pecan]

We do not play with the same vets

[full egret]

I was kinda hoping that the cleave force sword would be a toggle so that it’s easier to keep high peril as it keeps racking up peril

[viral solstice]

but also unstable power is particularly useful on force swords because u cant kill urself activating at 99%

so hitting the ceiling is v easy

[shadow wigeon]

Not really? I'm starting at 100% peril and it just fades so fast. You can fight it by charging, or peril blocking,

[full egret]

Apparently. All my vets see hordes and bulwarks as a grenade bonanza

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah the ceiling isn't the issue, it'sstaying there

to get value

[viral solstice]

[full egret]

Even though I tell them if they wait a few seconds my Voidstrike will kill them all

[viral solstice]

but i mean on illisi in particular arent u just spamming the special activate

or a lot of the time anyway

idk i havent used one

[kind jay]

hell yeah

[wise pecan]

Is illisi just psyker power sword

[vernal frost]

Well it's either two-shotting a crusher fairy consistently and wrack and ruin

And no one wants wrack and ruin

[viral solstice]

but i get the impression its a high activation count weapon

[full egret]

Worse but same in concept

[viral solstice]

plus u can reactivate

[robust relic]

Anyone messed with exorcist on a force sword? This roll is looking promising at least, depending on the orange blessing (ran out of plasteel)

[full egret]

Reactivating is annoying and not lore friendly

[vernal frost]

It's psyker heavy sword with a demo version of the ps special

[viral solstice]

i AM the lore

[vernal frost]

exorcist fell off sry

[full egret]

I went to the armory and got a 370, low warp resistance. Looking forwards to upgrading it tonight

[viral solstice]

ok yeah on illisi being at high peril all the time

is stunningly easy

[vernal frost]

that's true

[viral solstice]

u just engage in erotic rp with ur sword and ur g2g

[vernal frost]

it's also easy to kill yourself

[viral solstice]

aagain

also a bonus

[vernal frost]

if the 10% thingie doesn't proc

[full egret]

I do want to try high peril build with the illisi

[summer prairie]

More explosion damage too with unstable power

[vernal frost]

and you get carried away

[kind jay]

what you're saying is illisi is the new meta for perils penance

[vernal frost]

see it's a win win

[viral solstice]

now thats the mindset i wanna see

tbh they need to quadruple unstable power damage

but scale it by what % of ur hp 1 wound is

[vernal frost]

now go report to your local armoury to get three wound curios

[viral solstice]

so 2 wound chads do double current damage

and when ur in peril animation

if u press and hold grenade

u spend all ur wounds to do a full power nuclear blast

[wise pecan]

It’s been a minute since I’ve looked, what’s unstable power’s stats?

[viral solstice]

and die instantly

[vernal frost]

nah if you explode at 1 wound it should straight up delete your char

[robust relic]

are soulblaze damage amounts impacted by warp unleashed? if so is it snapshotted? e.g. when a given stack was applied it's damage was determined by WU at the time, or adding more peril increasing WU will increase already-applied soulblaze?

[full egret]

I’m still rather peeved though that they gave psyker a weaker melee than veteran

[viral solstice]

nono it should delete the vet in ur party

[vernal frost]

ohhh

I see

[full egret]

It’s already risky to be in melee and it’s really not fulfilling the glass cannon archetype

[viral solstice]

i mean its not that much weaker

[summer prairie]

Explosion definitely should do friendly fire damage

[vernal frost]

it's a heavy sword with slaughterer

[viral solstice]

in the sense that its still pretty choppy

[wise pecan]

Soulblaze damage is not snapshotted

[full egret]

Haven’t compared damage numbers but the active time is annoying me severely

[viral solstice]

i mean heavy sword has 75% headtaker which is literally better slaughterer

so thats not a selling point really

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah with Illisi you can maintain peril. I think that's where unstable is cool. On OG FS unstable is less good now.

[vernal frost]

but can you kill yourself with a hs?

[viral solstice]

i mainly just used it for random activates at high peril so taht shouldnt change i think

[vernal frost]

thought so

[viral solstice]

and back to back activations are still already peril limited at 100% on og fs

if u heavy it i think u just squeak in

[kind jay]

does power% affect peril? can we figure out how to shredder enhance jihad?

[wise pecan]

You can light some eg flak armor enemies on fire, then switch between a +flak and a non +flak weapon and watch your soulblaze damage increase or decrease.

[viral solstice]

i mean i can kill myself with anything

but most ppl arent talented

[vernal frost]

wait a fucking minute

[full egret]

Also they still haven’t made the cohesion warp charges base kit lmao

[vernal frost]

ogryn chat says heavyweight champion is reverted to 4

[full egret]

You’d think they would after all our siblings use it and nothing else

[vernal frost]

uh oh gotta go

[wise pecan]

I switched away from it on my brain burst + taser staff build and do not regret it

[viral solstice]

now thats what im talkin about

could hit 4 digits if i had a ps with a second power blessing but it ees wat it ees

[wise pecan]

Quicker cooldown + buffed brain burst ult = use buffed brain bursts to kill elites to recharge ult, self feeding system that doesn’t rely on me being as good at clicking on heads as the vet equivalent

[robust relic]

one thing that is annoying me about illis is that it seems to last for only one hit, is that true of power swords? I feel like they swipe a bunch of times on one charge

[kind jay]

ps is longer and has a blessing too

[wise pecan]

I can reliably get 2 heavy swings from a ps charge, sometimes 3 (without power cycler)

[kind jay]

illy is 1 hit

[vernal frost]

power swords get at least 4 charges if it's not carapace

[ornate hamlet]

We can't give psyker too good a melee weapon, it's not a melee class

Wait

Wait a minute

[vernal frost]

illy has a very short charge animation that can be easily spammed

[wise pecan]

Shorter than power sword’s?

[kind jay]

yeah it's fast af i just do it mid horde

[vernal frost]

I'd assume so

[autumn smelt]

thats what ive noticed

[devout axle]

What did I walk into. Illi is fine. Good horde killing, and not terrible against beefy elites either.

[wise pecan]

Actually important question: do the new force swords inherit the original’s infinite dodges

[near wyvern]

But illy also gets the infini cleave push and sit yo ass down push attack

[vernal frost]

yes they do

all of them

[devout axle]

They all have infinite dodge

[wise pecan]

Oh nice ok

[viral solstice]

also wildfire is definitely meta for voidstrike

it makes shooting into a horde so much more aesthetic

like its so pretty

[autumn smelt]

the rhythm of the illy force swords compared to the power sword (im a vet main lole) seems to be every heavy swing then a bash as opposed to every 2 to 3 heavy swings then a bash

[wise pecan]

The most important factor

[viral solstice]

wait why did that end up so long

thought it was taking ages to upload

[wise pecan]

If you aren’t killing heretics with flair, are you really killing them?

[clear heath]

man the cleave force sword feels so good

[autumn smelt]

holy shit that voidstrike video made me nut ngl

[viral solstice]

one sec just making it shorter

[robust relic]

I think I hate the Deimos attack pattern

[wise pecan]

I’m probably gonna use that rapier force sword as a can opener on my purgatus and the illisi as a horde clearer on my lightning staff, though I haven’t seen its moveset yet

[vernal frost]

Deimos is kinda weird

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10YXxaC_mEFwrt/d1337yqTNtPf?invite=cr-MSxxMVUsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

there we go

[vernal frost]

But the damage on heavies is nuttt

[twilit flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

[ornate hamlet]

Is there a blessing to burn enemies with void?

[twilit flicker]

Yes

[fresh reef]

what's the deal with this magnifying glass bit on the blessing?

[twilit flicker]

Means you haven't collected it

[ornate hamlet]

Means you don't have it stored

[wise pecan]

It means you can eat it at hadron’s

[fresh reef]

ah, noted. neat

r4 barrage btw pog

[wise pecan]

What lit the initial fire? Soulblaze on crit?