psyker-class

[olive ember]

so we legit were just sitting on gold

and doing nothing with it

literally worthless resource

[karmic copper]

@still hearth ive spent the last 40 mins going through the mornings comments on here. You seem to be answering many hard questions. I am about 1 hr behind atm. You say you nearly always use quel-> toughness talent. Would you agree that new horde clear FS chain ulting mid horde would combat the natural regen somewhat? Ive read comments of ult kill counting as warp attack for warp attack-> toughness. Am i missing something?

[void mural]

I agree, it's absolute ass tier, but it is slightly better than literally having no option to purchase a weapon of the type you'd like

[olive ember]

now people actually use it because money can be directly used to roll for a high base stat weapon

[hybrid solstice]

legit sitting on gold is better than getting meme'd into buying a butt ton of useless weapons is what i am saying. i mean it's an opinion of course but yeah

[olive ember]

remember, before this shit the endgame gameplay literally was afk until the hourly reset, walk to the vendor, check, go back to afk

[olive ember]

its not really getting meme'd there was literally no reason to have gold past like what,,, 30k? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

since even the most god tier of weapons only cost like 20k

and half the time you are buying something cheaper like a green 360+

which is like 15k

so there was literally no reason to have gold

[void mural]

I agree. I buy about 3 greys, and then just say fuck it and use one of them if I have absolutely no choice with the RNG shop denying me the weapon type I want

[spice veldt]

i got most of my t4 blessings by consecrating weapons obtained through brunt

[olive ember]

this shop gave a reason

[spice veldt]

in fact, I just got a t4 slaughterer today from doing that

[olive ember]

and hey I got literally all my weapons I'm currently using from the gamble shop

[hybrid solstice]

to reiterate you will on average get like 340, that is not high base stat in my opinion

[olive ember]

it doesn't matter what the average is

when you are literally using currency that was worthless

[wide tiger]

Im barely generating warp charges from AB right now

hmm

[olive ember]

its like having a bunch of shredded paper

[summer prairie]

with the new quelling speed and other changes, void with surge+nexus is fun as long as you quell cancel as well. I ran 311131 for more quicken quelling spam

[olive ember]

and then someone randomly goes hey for each piece of shredded paper I'll let you pick some random shit out of my bag

[void mural]

It wouldn't be worthless if they actually made a system that used them in a tangible way, instead of it being a slot machine

[hybrid solstice]

you can use your money to rebless, it's literally more worth it to blow money on being extremely indecisive

than fishing for these fisher price weapons

[olive ember]

how often are you reblessing

thats once per weapon

maybe twice if you get like an upgrade

and its cheap AF

[hybrid solstice]

i'm not, im using an example

[daring nexus]

I’ve literally got every 370+ weapon I have now form brunt’s shop

[cyan notch]

the buffs actually apply to all of the fs not just obscurus

[olive ember]

yes but thats because thats the only example

what else are you spending your money on

the reskins in the shop?

[cyan notch]

contract rerolls

[hybrid solstice]

sure some of them

[summer prairie]

some of the events are very fun with the shock troop gauntlet modifier

[wide tiger]

Its pretty hard to get 370+ from brunts

ive gone through millions of ducats

[olive ember]

I mean that shit was legit bugged and it stopped rolling after like the 5th re roll

dunno if they fixed that even lol

[hybrid solstice]

did those actually get good stat distributions and the blessings or perks you want

[olive ember]

I haven't touched melks in a while

[cyan notch]

its been fixed for like idk years

[daring nexus]

Most of them have 70%+ in all stats

[hybrid solstice]

may i see some of the weapons you are referring to?

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1088328838175535136/image.png

yes

[daring nexus]

Here’s a sword I made today

[void mural]

The system I want is something like:
Buying greys gives an item 350-380
Use dockets or crafting materials to shift the stat bars around to your liking
Consecrate weapon to raise rarity
Freely swap both blessings/perks for a price

If they want us to spend resources on all that, just give them appropriate numbers for cost instead of making us roll a slot machine

[olive ember]

Again im not a particular fan of fucking endless gacha on top of rng on top of rng

but what I'm saying is that this shitty brunts bs is better than what we had before

which was afk simulator

where all you did was afk

and wait for the hourly reset

spent 10 seconds checking shop

go back afk

[hybrid solstice]

how much did you spend until you got this would you say?

[daring nexus]

And another

[olive ember]

for me I spent 260k to get my FS

[rocky cedar]

I'm still processing that my autogunker now just gets to have +26% damage bare minimum at all times. Like that's half a Vet Ult of bonus damage just always

[daring nexus]

I got both of these with like 100k

[olive ember]

but then again thats 260K i wouldn't have used to begin with

also I'm particularly stingy as well

I legit threw away 370's because they had shit like low dmg or wte

but yeah

[wide tiger]

brunts and hadron feels like an eternal sink of rarely getting good feels

[olive ember]

again system isn't good but compared to what we had before which was nothing

id prefer it

[daring nexus]

I also got this with that same 100k

[hard oyster]

Years? Really eh

[wide tiger]

thats incredibly lucky

[cyan notch]

give or take

[wide tiger]

I've spent over 3 million ducats today and the highest brunt item i got was a 367

[olive ember]

how

[hybrid solstice]

yeah idk they're alright, i dont think they're 260K worth of alright, but it is true we arent doing anything with the money

[still hearth]

If you are running the horde clear melee then I imagine that you can probably make use of the 10% per enemy killed by force attacks now. I haven't tried them out but you seem to be able to kill one or two enemies with it. My issue with it stems more from the fact that if I'm in a position to kill horde enemies like that I don't usually need toughness.

[daring nexus]

Maybe but I’ve had this kind of luck since the crafting changes dropped. I’ve bought dozens of 370+ weapons

[still hearth]

If you find it works for you then that's all good, though.

At least its far more reasonable than the old Force Sword which only killed one with a warp attack.

[olive ember]

heres the problem, brunts is rly shit, Im not a fan of rng on top of rng on top of rng. But what it did was bypass the hourly shop timer BS we had to endure by using gold, which we happened to not have a use at all

[daring nexus]

The base stats don’t get much better than this

[wide tiger]

and the 4 force swords i raised to blue got sprint eff, weak spot damage, crit spot damage, and like, stamina, and then precog, shred precog riposte lol

[olive ember]

You see the problem rn as well actually in the form of diamantine

there is literally nothing to do with it

you get excess on top of excess on top of excess uses of diamantine

[wide tiger]

Would be nice if i could spend diamanthene on good brunt items

like automatically get a 380

[gilded viper]

Tbh I stop caring about base stats since we have blessing that be like "yeah we give u loke almost 100% power for slaping some enemy's"

[topaz sable]

the new deimos force sword seems like the other one but with triple damage lol

[olive ember]

now imagine that with gold, and then just imagine that brunts wasn't there

[hybrid solstice]

that and u are stuck with like a tier 2 perk, which is fine, but if you ever want to reroll you have to spend that again for maybe another chance at rolling a similar weapon, which is still ass

[topaz sable]

tried the anti-horde one and it felt like a bad power sword, but the single-target one seems super strong

[olive ember]

which meant getting new weapons was solely from the shop, that only resets on an hourly timer

[cyan notch]

bad power sword is really good

[olive ember]

anti horde one is broken, the unpowered attacks are like a hsword

[wide tiger]

truuue

[cyan notch]

cuz we didnt have bad power sword before

[ornate hamlet]

And with the horde sword that has a stab because of course it does, I realized I can't do a special mid-combo properly

[stable silo]

Derpy wat u think about patch

[ornate hamlet]

So I need to special, do a push and aim a heavy

[olive ember]

the trap people are falling in I think with the horde FS is that they are quite literally treating it like a powersword and using it exclusively by charging and then swinging and then charging and then swinging

like you dont have to

[gilded viper]

But it fun the way

Love hearing the voices

[daring nexus]

This is all true, I’ve had the most trouble getting good perks and blessings on these weapons. My point is that for me getting a good base rating has become the easy part, getting lucky with hadron is the real grind

[olive ember]

just swing and chop shit up and then when theres alot of shit, take a step back charge, swing, go back to uncharged swinging once you created space

[topaz sable]

do you do just chain heavy attacks?

[gilded viper]

Think light spam and work with slaughter

[olive ember]

anything works tbh, the lights actually demolish trash, but it only has a cleave of 2

heavies also do the same but are slower but with a cleave of 6

[hybrid solstice]

that second part i think would be more approachable if the rolls on the profane shop were naturally a bit higher

[olive ember]

the charge adds damage but its most important thing is that it makes it cleave through pmuch everything

[topaz sable]

the anti-single target grey with good base stats seems to crush trash mobs, and the second heavy attack does like double damage lol

[olive ember]

its moveset is kinda shit imo

it crushes em sure

one at a time

[daring nexus]

Absolutely, I think the floor should be like 350, but to say the brunt’s shop isn’t worth using at all is absurd

[gilded viper]

Isn't that the weapon nuche tho, high single target damage

Niche*

[soft drift]

is better crit chance or better poxwalker dmg better on a purge staff?

[runic hornet]

is the mk5 force sword anything like power sword

[olive ember]

idk some people think the move set is good for horde clear, apparently heavy -> light -> repeat or something

but idk

imo its kinda ass

[wide tiger]

crit

[olive ember]

heavy is like an overhead, and the lights are mid

for horde clear

[cyan notch]

the lights are absutely not mid

[gloomy yarrow]

Crit it’s really good on all melees to my knowledge

[olive ember]

crit chance is better

[cyan notch]

u should really try it out

[lethal folio]

Left is power sword, right is force.

[clear hamlet]

I just clutched a damnation raid mission. with quicken

[olive ember]

I mean I'll run it once im out of fucking classes

[delicate smelt]

FS just said "yeah whatever" when they went for the heavy attack weak spot crit didnt they?

[olive ember]

which last another 5 hours

so yeah

[cyan notch]

the first light 1 shots a dreg bruiser

[olive ember]

until then im just in lecture hell

[hybrid solstice]

none of my 370+ weapons are from brunt so personally i think it's still not worth using at all over just fishing for emps or checking rotations, like purely from the perspective of the opportunity cost of my time

[olive ember]

??? what you mean opportunity cost of your time

what are you spending your gold on anyways

[topaz sable]

I have a grey deimos and the first light attack 1-shots in the head every flak/dreg in the shooter section except the melee dreg

[olive ember]

you legit gain 10k gold a match

[karmic copper]

So this generates 30% peril on special. Is that meme? I crafted 30 swords just now and this BY FAR has the highest damage/finesse/first target. Sadface. I have 4 swords 370+ and all are shitfaced garbage.

[topaz sable]

that's with no warp charges active

[olive ember]

20 matches and you have 200k gold

[hybrid solstice]

like literally sitting there fishing for a good profane instead of just running a mission

[olive ember]

what are you spending 200k gold on

thats like

you really think

fishing for a profane takes longer than running a mission

I can assure you it is not

the rng from emp gift is literally brunts but worse

[gilded viper]

[lethal folio]

You can also sell the gift for another 5-10k

[olive ember]

because on top of base stats it then has the rng of fucking blessings and perks, and for wte reason those are always finicky as shit

[wide tiger]

My biggest bottleneck is profane items

personally

[olive ember]

I don't think I've seen an emp gift with anything above like a t2 blessing

[wide tiger]

items worth spending my crafting mats on

[near wyvern]

You mean 10

[hybrid solstice]

than running a mission? no, but sitting their for 10 minutes straight just to get bullshit is actually not worth the time

[olive ember]

it 10 now? maybe I'm still basing it off of malice

[olive ember]

10 minutes?

how slow are you clicking through em

[near wyvern]

AHH I play damnation

[gilded viper]

Malice 🤢

[cyan notch]

its pretty good since you will have a high chance of triggering quell on kill

[gilded viper]

Not even t4?

[wide tiger]

I've gotten a few tier 4 blessings from emp blessings

[olive ember]

I legit burn through 260k in like 30 seconds

[hybrid solstice]

like actually a maintained pace

[near wyvern]

Damnation gives 19k and something + the weapon so it's more than 20k per match

[hybrid solstice]

hold on

[wide tiger]

yeah its like 19.9k isnt it

its basically 20k

[near wyvern]

Sounds about right

[topaz sable]

the deimos uncharged and grey will often 2tap a mutant in the head if you do light -> heavy it seems, that feels nuts

[cyan notch]

19450 i think

[summer prairie]

imagine not running +ordo

[wide tiger]

close nuff :p

[olive ember]

I mean

[topaz sable]

that's with warpchrages up though

[olive ember]

Lets put it like this I guess

[wide tiger]

almost 2 warp sword rolls per run

[olive ember]

if you really think brunts is a waste of time

[near wyvern]

Yes the first light deals more damage than the first heavy against most armour types

[olive ember]

then just dont go to brunts

[wide tiger]

not great odds when you see what averages out of brunts

[delicate smelt]

warp unleashed also makes a huge difference.

[olive ember]

and tada you have what it was like before brunts

[hybrid solstice]

do you not even look at the stats or anything you just click purchase on repeat?

[wide tiger]

well no other choice tho

[olive ember]

nope

honestly nope

[near wyvern]

It's around one 350+ per 10 rolls in my experience.

[hybrid solstice]

literally why, that is the point

[olive ember]

with the massive layers of rng I expect Hadron to fuck me over multiple times

[near wyvern]

And one 370+ per million dockets

[olive ember]

what is one or two more 370 FS

[topaz sable]

if you do light->heavy without charging it feels you can delete most elites including ragers

[olive ember]

what point?

my money?

[gilded viper]

I just spam buy 10-20 weapons then go to hard hardon to see if I win big, if I don't ill just deleted them all or farm blessing

[olive ember]

what am I spending my money on

theres literally nothing to spend my money on

[hybrid solstice]

so instead of taking a look at the stats onsite you just sort through your inventory after

[olive ember]

I buy everything, then i go into the inventory and immediately scrap anything less than 360

and whats left I check and then I scrap anything with bad stat rolls

streamlined

[cyan notch]

u should try it on bosses

[pearl delta]

so... thoughts?

[olive ember]

whats left I bring to hadron

[topaz sable]

pretty sure I saw someone in the zealot chat using a macro to spam the first light attack in the chain and it was deleting everything

[hybrid solstice]

i think you would have to scrap less weapons if you just looked at the stats to begin with so you know when to stop

[olive ember]

I would say replace exorcist with slaughterer but idek

cuz its a deimos

[olive ember]

I don't think you realize what is time efficient and what is not

[delicate smelt]

if it can roll slaughterer, slap slaughterer, no questions asked. and it can, so slap it there.

[olive ember]

its alot faster to buy 20 weapons, and then once you are in the inventory and can see 10 at a time

then it is to check the base stats of every weapon

[near wyvern]

You can make a qq macro yeah

[topaz sable]

I don't like macros since it's definitely abusing an unintended mechanic but it's neat seeing what is possible

[gilded viper]

There a macro for qq, always thought I was just slow

[hybrid solstice]

uh well i am not going over more weapons and holding X over them than you are

[olive ember]

no but you are spending time checking literally every weapon

[near wyvern]

There is a macro for void ball spam as well, it's hilarious

[hybrid solstice]

your method just blows money faster and thats it

[near wyvern]

Not that effective but hilarious

[olive ember]

the time it takes you to buy and check 10 weapons I can buy 20 and scrap 10

[gilded viper]

Don't u have to delete the weapon at one point?

Anyways

[olive ember]

I delete anything below 350

so when they display 10 at a time

anything below 350 or 360 just gets deleted before I even check

[hybrid solstice]

it is quicker to glance at the stats than scrap a weapon

[delicate smelt]

if its not 370+ with low dump stat it goes straight to the bin with me

[olive ember]

it really isn't

and then again i dont actually have to scrap em if time is actually that precious

I can do that later or just never even

[hybrid solstice]

am i missing the instant scrap option so i dont have to hold X to scrap on each individual item or what's going on

[stable silo]

is warp unleashed teh go to now ?

[olive ember]

yes

well

[near wyvern]

Yes. Enjoy while it lasts.

[topaz sable]

even if its 350-something if the stats are in the right place it doesn't matter that much, some stats scale very little as the stat goes up

[gilded viper]

Going to make a future where it last forever, and get buff while im at it

[stable silo]

it doesnt effect soulfire does it?

[olive ember]

typically by the time I go fishing for brunts I already have some decent 350/360 weapon tbh

[near wyvern]

I wish you luck on your journey

[cyan notch]

it does

[gilded viper]

🫡

[stable silo]

dang

[feral verge]

hmm did superiority brick this?

[near wyvern]

How hard is it to understand

[olive ember]

it got changed to affect all damage now which means guns, dots, etc. etc.

[gilded viper]

I have a revolver build idea

[stable silo]

looks like blazind soul voidstrike is back on the menu

[topaz sable]

Still not sure I'd give up warpbattery/inner tranq but it's worth trying

[hybrid solstice]

i think it's potentially fine if a weapon has a dump stat, but some dont really

[olive ember]

never was off the menu, just at the very very bottom

[topaz sable]

has anyone tried wildfire? is it actually worth it?

[stable silo]

rofl i really gota get flurry on my void

[olive ember]

every weapon has a dump stat, which boils down to "which stat is the least useful"

[olive ember]

I mean its meta but

[shadow quail]

The new FS have deflector baked in?

[hybrid solstice]

i am told surge does not have one

[olive ember]

charge rate

[wide tiger]

quell

[near wyvern]

Here is spirit nexus trauma, it just keeps going on and on and on with wildfire

https://youtu.be/3FmAcILS7PQ

[gilded viper]

Think it a bug but hey I'm not complaining

[wide tiger]

quell is so fast anyways quell dont matter much

[hybrid solstice]

does charging up surge only give more damage or what?

[olive ember]

yep

more damage

[hybrid solstice]

wow no stagger or anything

[olive ember]

nope

[stable silo]

this is my might void, i just dont have any other blessings except blazin lol

[pearl delta]

i squietdude the way to go now always>?

[olive ember]

like 90% of the time

unless you are running a purge build or a gun psyker build

[shut ether]

SIBLINGS - PSYKER FEELS GREAT

[stable silo]

so what does it mean by passive quelling is back?

you can quel with non force weapons?

[cyan notch]

its up to you what you need when out of toughness

[hybrid solstice]

well at any rate my experience with brunt has been pure ass so im going to choose instead to get bent over by the game's other avenues of rng

[shadow quail]

its down to 9/12s from 24

[smoky lance]

What’s y’all’s take on the blaze sword? I thought it was gonna be a cool thrust weapon but it’s all swipes

[stable silo]

oh

[shut ether]

Yep from 24 seconds to 9 sec for non-force

[topaz sable]

what's the build? you have nexus on the trauma, what other blessing and what feats?

[frail berry]

Warp Absorption for purge build?

[shut ether]

Manual quell is fast AF too

[hybrid solstice]

which blaze sword

[olive ember]

essence harvest I didnt sleep

[robust relic]

Siblings, I am dying, the armory exchange extension is broken with the new shop location

[smoky lance]

Should have specified my bad. The new one in the update

[topaz sable]

There's 2 new ones

[stable silo]

@smoky lance theres two force swords now one is ST one is swipe

2 new ones **

[shadow quail]

one if cleave one is stab

[smoky lance]

Of for real? Shit I didn’t know there were 2 new ones

[hybrid solstice]

the cool one is actually the illis which is also new

[olive ember]

they added a horde clear one and a single target one

[stable silo]

the teased one was the stab the secret one is swipe

[smoky lance]

But I gotta go test it rn

[olive ember]

horde clear one is standout imo, single target one less so.

[rocky cedar]

Imagine reading patch notes

[delicate smelt]

yes Beloved, we are all waiting for a new armory exchange update arent we.

[olive ember]

is the armory broke again? I thought they got it to work

[rocky cedar]

I kinda wanna see what QQ cancelling light 1 with a macro looks like

[shadow quail]

Mine is working

[delicate smelt]

yeah its working rn

[hybrid solstice]

bro they added a mortis operative skin only the illisi can use

neat i think

[delicate smelt]

uh...deimos also has it?

[summer prairie]

quietitude is so good now

worth maybe runniung toughness

[hybrid solstice]

hmm

[viral solstice]

always has been

[still hearth]

Imma run the Quicken BB tank build

Lets go

[hybrid solstice]

what perks for illisi

[viral solstice]

toughness is blue

like this

[hybrid solstice]

still carapace maniac?

or hmm

[near wyvern]

Trauma with Warp Nexus 3 and Blazing Spirit 3, preferably you want Warp Nexus 4 but haven't found one for it. +5% crit chance for perk, the other perk preferably +infested but you can't always choose that.

The build is Quietitude, WU, PA, KD, WF, AB. Use a mobility melee (dagger or mk V duelling sword). In numbers that's 312122.

Try to fish for a proc then ult regardless of your stacks to upgrade the fire to 4+ stacks. If you have 3 or 4 stacks it's fine to also ult without getting a proc if the situation calls for it. Always prioritize targeting elites with your staff. Quell to 70-80 and cast up to 90-100. Try to do full casts whenever you have the time for it as it has a huge range and crit will apply blaze to everything hit by the outer explosion as well.

Stat wise you want max charge rate and max blast radius and high quell speed. The rest is just a nice benefit.

[still hearth]

What's the best to combo with full BB build though

Duelling Sword for speed probably but idk about ranged options. Maybe Surge actually.

[hybrid solstice]

BB build? are you using wrack and ruin or smth

[still hearth]

No

Warp Unleashed

Quicken and 6 stacks.

Just BB everything and press F

[hybrid solstice]

so like you can spam the force push often?

[still hearth]

Every 9s

[topaz sable]

thanks! I have a great trauma staff but unfortunately warp flurry is locked into it, I have Nexus 4 as the other trait though, I see how the synergies work that's really neat

Will need another trauma to try something like that out

[hybrid solstice]

well that's fine and well but am i missing something, why build to use the ult every 9s

[still hearth]

Because its fun

[hybrid solstice]

oh i see

[still hearth]

You can also just constantly BB without any quelling

[topaz sable]

also the new deimos sword has +dodge distance and +sprint speed, not as much as dueling but it's still nice

[still hearth]

And you get toughness from ulting

[cyan notch]

bb vs horde

[hybrid solstice]

does psyker ult do any damage without AB

[celest hedge]

Positive dodge and sprint speed is always nice

[still hearth]

No it doesn't

[hybrid solstice]

i think not right

[clear heath]

so what's everyone's thoughts on the old force sword now that the new ones are out

[still hearth]

But the three other nerds can surely do something

[topaz sable]

Run PA and Kinetic Barrage, if there's elites dying you can spam BB

[still hearth]

[still hearth]

No.

I refuse.

[topaz sable]

I think I'm too impatient for spamming slow BBs but I def see the appeal

[cyan notch]

power crept by deimos imo

[hybrid solstice]

spamming force push so your team can clean up sounds like the psyker version of ogryn shield tanking

[topaz sable]

you could run CL for the %25 damage since you don't need the faster ult with quicken

[still hearth]

That's what I mean

You're the big BB meanie

[olive ember]

I think Deimos is shitty obscurus but

[hybrid solstice]

but it looks cool

[still hearth]

I mean think of it like this

You have a 3s Plasma gun

That you can use constantly for no ammo

With the current 6 stack and WU

Tbf Barrage is probably better

But I think the push and peril stuff can be nice.

[hybrid solstice]

i'll be straight, it is definitely a meme build

[still hearth]

Definitely.

[hybrid solstice]

but fun is fun

[still hearth]

But when Psyker is strong enough you can run meme builds

That's a good thing

Though just BB is already pretty wack atm

[cyan notch]

obscurus has worse lights worse mobility worse boss damage worse single target the only thing going for obscurus is slighty better diagonal heavy and thats literally it

[summer prairie]

Quicken is fairly legit with surge nexus voidstrike, not like you'll BB much of anything

[remote void]

siblings the armory blessed me this is very strong

[still hearth]

Why would you Quicken then though.

[olive ember]

And that’s all it needs

[still hearth]

You don't get stacks back

[summer prairie]

for double warp charges

from other feats

[still hearth]

I guess.

[topaz sable]

The Deimos does like almost triple the damage over Obscurus, honestly curious, in what way is it worse? well I guess the first light attack anyways

[still hearth]

I don't see the appeal tbf.

[summer prairie]

for the quelling

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/drive-by-50cent-smile-see-ya-swag-gif-5548830

[summer prairie]

and stagger

[ornate hamlet]

THE EMPEROR HAS CHOSEN HIS FAVORED GUN PSYKER

[still hearth]

But then you lose the stacks

And you have to BB

[summer prairie]

but I get them back

[still hearth]

So it kind of has no synergy

[summer prairie]

with communion and possibly KF

[olive ember]

Like yes it has worse single target but that doesn’t mean much considering I could one shot crushers and maulers just fine using the obscures

[summer prairie]

you get double effect from those

[still hearth]

Idk that sounds like a lot of playing at low stacks waiting for it to happen

Or just biting the bullet and BBing anyway

[hybrid solstice]

rip mine has too much resistance

[topaz sable]

to me it feels like obscurus but much more uncharged damage and better sprint speed + dodge distance

[lethal folio]

Illis is the on you want high resist on since it's spammable.

[olive ember]

Worse horde clear and honestly I can’t feel the dodge distance I’d have to use it more but eh

[hybrid solstice]

at least the exchange is even dropping these though

[still hearth]

Doesn't Communion and KF basically mean you're on full stacks all the time anyway, now you just have to BB a bit less to get to full.

[topaz sable]

that's fair

[olive ember]

Better uncharged damage but it hits like 3 less mobs per hit

[cyan notch]

absolutely not worse horde clear

[topaz sable]

apparently the dodge distance is better but the sprint speed is the same or a bit worse

[hybrid solstice]

havent seen a deimos in melk or rotation yet

[olive ember]

Doesn’t mean much once slaughterer gets going and you one shot everything anyways

[cyan notch]

theyre basically the same horde clear

[olive ember]

They rly aren’t but

[hybrid solstice]

not that i super want one but yeah

[summer prairie]

but my ult is up more, not like the other level 30 feats do much for me with this build

except vs bulwarks

[ornate hamlet]

IT HAS STAMINA AND SPRINT EFFICIENCY

[still hearth]

[cyan notch]

obscurus has worse single target worse boss damage too

[ornate hamlet]

I AM HIS FASTEST PSYKER

NOT EVEN TZEENCH SHALL CATCH ME

[lethal folio]

The Vlla doesn't have the improved sprint speed.

You need the VId

[olive ember]

I mean boss dps sure, single target I legit can one shot damnation crushers with my Obscurus so

Extra single target is just overkill and a waste

[ornate hamlet]

I AM HIS SECOND FASTEST PSYKER

[lucid terrace]

Gotta say, love the Illisi

Super fun.

[hybrid solstice]

so how much is a 0.89 modifier, 89% faster?

[topaz sable]

what buffs/feats do you have active to do that much damage without a crit?

[olive ember]

Also new acronyms let’s just make it simple and say OFS, DFS, and IFS

[cyan notch]

nope

[true shadow]

YO THE NEW FORCE SWORDS ARE SICK

[olive ember]

I’m lazy and don’t wanna spell obscurus fucking every time

[cyan notch]

aint nobody using that

[green tree]

How are the new psyker buffs?

[lucid terrace]

But what if I want to mention multiple ifs?

[vivid mica]

has anyone tested essence harvest with the double charge quicken?

[lucid terrace]

People are gonna get confused

[olive ember]

Slaughterer, and WU I suppose

[true shadow]

Oh my GOD

[remote void]

i can finnaly not explode its neat

[hybrid solstice]

well i played runescape so i would not mind calling it the obby

[true shadow]

psyker good again?????

[hybrid solstice]

obby sword

[lethal folio]

Use the Mk numbers instead

[lucid terrace]

THE HORDE CLEAR SWORD GOOD

There

[olive ember]

You gonna spell the entire damn sword out everytime then?

[green tree]

What about the new single target sword?

[hybrid solstice]

deimos is apparently mid

so i hear

[green tree]

I saw a vid of someone using the AoE sword on shotguners.

[cyan notch]

yea its not that hard

[green tree]

And it looks spicy

[true shadow]

the new single target sword is really fucking good

[olive ember]

It’s also a waste of time

[true shadow]

so is the other one

[lethal folio]

Deimo has so much damage on the stab you don't need to charge it.

[true shadow]

they're both really fucking good

yeah i just instantkilled a mauler hahahahahhaha

[hybrid solstice]

what difficulty

[topaz sable]

it seems charge if you will one tap with a charged light attack, otherwise dont?

[warped pine]

so mk ii is kinda the middle ground on force swords now?

[lucid terrace]

I like the damage, but I use brainburst more against big targets anyways, so I barely used it lol

[green tree]

I might have to play my psyker a bit

[true shadow]

i do all my testing in damnation

[hybrid solstice]

oh wowza

[true shadow]

any other difficulty is noncanon

[green tree]

Sedition gaming

[viral solstice]

i do all my testing on difficulty 6 but u noobs dont know about that

[hybrid solstice]

so the stab one bangs mauler heads in damnation?

[viral solstice]

[true shadow]

with the right setup apparently yes

[warped pine]

the other 2 look like they cover a specific area (hordes/single target)

[olive ember]

Both Obscurus and Deimos can one shot maulers with special using WU

[hybrid solstice]

oh very sick

[blissful mural]

yo, is the bloodthirsty bugged now or is it supposed to be one use?

[olive ember]

As long as you don’t hit the carapace head

[true shadow]

5 hits uncharged no crits

[olive ember]

Used to last 5 seconds now it’s only one attack

[topaz sable]

pretty sure it was always supposed to be only 1 crit

[true shadow]

https://gyazo.com/1bc0f24e89343672a07e2c79c6e0eeba

[warped pine]

is the illisi similar to the og power sword?

[true shadow]

with this

[olive ember]

Who knows but it’s not as good

[hybrid solstice]

i dont know why but i just assumed the deimos would have a unique special

[olive ember]

Closer to the zealot hsword than the power sword

[warped pine]

aight

[olive ember]

The special gives it cleave through armor and some extra damage but it only lasts one swing

[hybrid solstice]

to give it a niche

[blissful mural]

idk, thats so weak, I had 4 bloodythirsty on my main sword, im gonna miss that

[leaden thunder]

bloodthirsty is onl 4

[hybrid solstice]

oh i see

[leaden thunder]

it's stupid they nerfed it

[warped pine]

that doesnt sound that good for a charge but idk how much of a boost it is yet

[true shadow]

you still do decent damage against armor with the charged heavy on the illisi

[olive ember]

So mostly use it like an hsword with uncharged lights n heavies, when you see a mixed horde with maulers and ragers n shit start charging

[leaden thunder]

instead of making it work the same on all the weapons that can roll it

[true shadow]

its ridiculously fun

[hybrid solstice]

if i find a decent deimos i will probably give it a whirl

[cyan notch]

yea kinda ultra niche and mostly mid blessing now

[hybrid solstice]

oh does the deimos have access to any good blessings the others dont

[olive ember]

All the FS share blessing pools

[daring nexus]

My new build is 1,1,1,2,1,1 with an illisi and it’s insane I feel like a zealot

[hybrid solstice]

oh really.. zamn

[warped pine]

illisi is probably an adjustment for sure

[olive ember]

Ofc with the DFS you would run slaughterer and then who tf knows like unstable or executor for more dmg ig

[dapper grotto]

new MK5 is just a shittier power sword it seems

[true shadow]

psyker is fun now.

[olive ember]

Tbh you run slaughterer on all the FS

[warped pine]

update finished time for sword testing yay

[olive ember]

Treat it like a hsword more than a power sword

[daring nexus]

Yea power sword with unlimited dodges 😉

[true shadow]

and better crits

[olive ember]

And better uncharged damage

[cyan notch]

shittier power sword still means its really good

[warped pine]

im very used to how the obscurus works so idk how the other will feel

[true shadow]

and the ability to damage through armor with uncharged heavies

lol

[dapper grotto]

i dont run heavy swords

but ok

[true shadow]

with more damage*

[olive ember]

Illi wte the fuck will feel fine, Deimos gonna be shit

[shut ether]

Quelling feels amazing now

[olive ember]

For a bit atleast until you come to wte revelation hit blooddrunk

[olive ember]

Just use heavy spam or lmb spam

Both are good

[dapper grotto]

very well

[olive ember]

Throwing slaughterer on it makes it’s performance miles better as per usual

[warped pine]

im guessing both can also get deflector

[topaz sable]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

Is the blessing pool completely the same?

[true shadow]

yes

its all force swords

they all use the force sword blessings

[true shadow]

deimos does not feel shit

the lights on deimos are really fast and powerful

and the stabs on crits with a shitty roll are doing over 1k

[olive ember]

Yep tho apparently the new FS have deflector built in, expect it to be a bug tho

[true shadow]

647 or so on uncrit stabs against carapace

https://gyazo.com/f1ef03ae7c9f077c0115e8ba7d110e11

this is what's doing that btw

so it could still be a bit better

but only a bit

it's fucking ridiculous, i love it, thank you fatshark for giving me A Good Force Sword (two!!!!)

[olive ember]

I could also just use a FS special and kill the carapace in one shot

It’s like wow it does carapace dmg

Now I can slowly plink it over the course of 10 seconds

[cyan notch]

yea with like full buffs

[true shadow]

you can do the same thing with the deimos 🤔

and yeah, with like full buffs.

and this is on damnation

[cyan notch]

with slaughterer that lasts 2s

[true shadow]

i am testing on damnation

they will die much quicker on lower difficulties

it only took a few stabs to the head.

[olive ember]

You are assuming I’m playing on malice?

[true shadow]

with how you're acting yes

:)

[warped pine]

not a fan of the deimos so far in testing

[true shadow]

because you do more damage with the stab or deimos charged than the obscurus charged before slaughterer comes into play

[olive ember]

Well here we go again

[warped pine]

my obscurus feels stronger and faster

[lethal lagoon]

charged Deimos doesn't even one-shot one of the gunners lmao.

it's a weird weapon

[cyan notch]

pretty sure obscurus lights are slower

[restive slate]

Obscurus got buffed

[warped pine]

could be my lack of decked out gear

[gilded viper]

Time to whip out the border

[warped pine]

but the deimos charge feels weak

[cyan notch]

theyre the same

[gilded viper]

Oh yeah I forgot the normal FS got buff as well

[olive ember]

Idk there’s this thing where people disagree and then immediately assume the other guy is playing on malice or some shit

[gilded viper]

Force sword is just winning wtf

[true shadow]

the deimos charge is doing more than my slaughterer obscurus, but the obscurus definitely feels stronger than pre-patch

[olive ember]

Had a guy on Reddit swear to only use Quietitude like a few weeks back

[true shadow]

this is the biggest clown message i've ever read. what.

what kind of person

what

[olive ember]

Yep

[true shadow]

have they never felt the beauty of voidstrike absorption

or purgatus essence harvest

[stable silo]

so i guess you run the new stab FS with purg staff ?

[olive ember]

And then when I said you can use EH on purge he went “lol sure keep telling yourself that as you hide and let your teammates carry you through malice”

[gilded viper]

Quietitude the movement quelling right?

[olive ember]

Or something along those lines

[true shadow]

CARRY YOU THROUGH MALICE?a

quietitude is quelling == toughness

[stable silo]

and maybe run the sweep FS with gunker ?

[cyan notch]

all the fs got the buffs not just obscurus

[jovial quail]

Hey guys, haven't been on since last year. IIrc they said we could use like multiple t3 perks to make a t4, is this possible now or do you still have to just wait till you eventually get one from melk/drop then take it off and put it on another weapon?

[true shadow]

Peril-based weapon blessing now gets one stack per 20% Peril instead of getting 1 stack total at 30%, 2 stacks total at 50%, and 4 stacks total at 97% Peril.

[long wharf]

so block tank psyker is back on the menu

[true shadow]

PRAISE BE TO THE FATSHARK

[kind jay]

can't combine

[feral verge]

not possible

[summer prairie]

The patch note is phrased very oddly since the thresholds are 20,40,60 and 80

[long wharf]

what's the moveset on the new fswords like?

[jovial quail]

Gotcha, rip heres to months of waiting for melk to show me the goodies then

[true shadow]

    Increased light force sword damage (30-60 → 40-80), second target (25-50 → 30-60)

    Increased heavy-force sword damage (50-100 → 60-120)

    Increased light stab attack damage (from 60-120 → 80-160)
        Improved Flak armour damage mod from 80% → 100%

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11dum76/best_psyker_builds_for_heresy/jaec2ks/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3

Here’s the Reddit thread

[true shadow]

jesus christ

[olive ember]

The best part was the clown posted his own build and holy shit it was bad lmao

[true shadow]

"You do not constantly need Thoughness regen in your builds."

local person has never played a higher difficulty than sedition

[viral solstice]

i nveer need toughness regen

[true shadow]

or they'd realize just how much toughness gets drained

[viral solstice]

cos i dnot take damij

[true shadow]

and how important toughness is when u take damij

[cyan notch]

yea all of em got it

[true shadow]

It's good.

[stable silo]

he hates the void staff 😦

which is the only good staff i got so far lol

[olive ember]

Test em out and pls judge I think obscurus (OG) is a better Deimos (single target) but blooddrunk and ancient think the opposite

[south tulip]

Is it me or the powered attacks from the stabby force swrd don't get weakspot damage bonuses?

[olive ember]

And yeah we are goin in circles at this point and I fucking can’t even test cuz I’m still on uni campus for another fucking 4 hours

[fresh reef]

tier 4 precog

[viral solstice]

thats not threecog

[olive ember]

I indeed hate the memestrike

[viral solstice]

thats fourcog

the ultimate cog

[stable silo]

derpy you nerd graduate already and dedicate your life to darktide

[long wharf]

I don't have the time to test right now, I'll probably do it later

[mortal crest]

You and me both.

[ornate hamlet]

Is unstable power legit 4% power at 97% peril?

[olive ember]

[stable silo]

we need testing to tell us what to think

[long wharf]

what changes to Sour Milk?

[spice oar]

force greatsword?

[olive ember]

Were there any changes to Melk?

[summer prairie]

I think melk has more t4 blessings than before but not enough data yet

[cyan notch]

4x4 at 80%

[olive ember]

T4 gives you up to +20% with slaughterer giving you up to +75%

For a total of +95

[ornate hamlet]

anything good this patch? i haven't looked yet

[olive ember]

Lots of psyker buffs

Everyone in psyker chat was celebrating while fucking zealot chat was cope seethe and malding

[cyan notch]

mine seemed the same across all 5 chars

[ornate hamlet]

really, buffs like?

[spice oar]

yeah but, force greatsword?

[hot agate]

is this worth?

[mortal crest]

Probably because the TH swap cancel was removed.

[olive ember]

Passive quell for non Force weapon is back

[mortal crest]

Unless they did something else.

[long wharf]

quelling got boosted across the board

[ornate hamlet]

i don't even need it, but i do use axe

[lethal lagoon]

I'd read the peril changes yourself, it's quite a lot.

[olive ember]

Active quell might as well be instant now

[ornate hamlet]

Speaking of, does quietitude work with passive peril quelling, or do you have to quell manually to get toughness?

[south tulip]

Looks pretty damn good

[olive ember]

100 to 0 with a good staff in like a second

[stable silo]

ohshi sharpshooter buffs 2

[olive ember]

Two new FS with their own niches

[lethal lagoon]

All quelling hits quietitude

[summer prairie]

quietitude should now work with anything that makes your peril go down

[true shadow]

god, if these fucking

normal force swords

are so good

i cant wait to see the force greatsword that i know exists because i datamined it outside of what we were already told

[olive ember]

Which is literally everything

[viral solstice]

yeah i mean if shitty weapons (swords) are good when force

[stable silo]

time to run sweep FS with shredder gunker

[viral solstice]

what about force RASHAD

[olive ember]

Ngl half of me thinks the IFS was the force greatsword

Dunno tho

[true shadow]

it was not

[lethal lagoon]

I like the Illy better than IFS

[true shadow]

Covenant Mk VIII Blaze Force Greatsword

[lethal lagoon]

Illy FS is more obvious

[cyan notch]

force rashad out of the game

[viral solstice]

u cant say that and mess up ur meme

[true shadow]

nvm i love crab

[viral solstice]

never show ur face round these parts again... pardner

[true shadow]

btw guys i almost died last night :)

kitchen fires are not fun and smoke is bad for you stay safe :)

[cyan notch]

u got dabbed on by the bot too so we both messed up

[viral solstice]

no i used it to send u a subliminal message

[true shadow]

the bot is overly sensitive

[viral solstice]

im mind controlling u

[wide tiger]

only one i havent tested is xfer peril and exorcist but battle meditation works now yay

[cyan notch]

[olive ember]

I mean with how fast passive and active quell are now

I feel like exorcist is kinda redundant

[wide tiger]

yeah it was never good

[ornate hamlet]

First target roll of 7% on FS, I take it instant scrap?

[wide tiger]

just curious of quietitude works with it

or however you spell it

quietietietiude

[olive ember]

Yes

[cyan notch]

7 lol

[near wyvern]

Definitely

[ornate hamlet]

The Emperor giveth and taketh away

[true shadow]

you were right on the money

quietitude

[shadow wigeon]

Quell is fast enough now you can almost cycle warp attacks non stop

[fresh reef]

love the new voicelines for perilbombs lul

[shadow wigeon]

short break in between and you quell back

[obtuse moth]

exorcist works pretty well on the horde clear force sword fwiw, hits a lot of heads in a swipe

[ornate hamlet]

I think I'll consecrate them to farm blessings first

[shadow wigeon]

New hordclear FS warp attack is adorable

it's like a baby warp attack

[wide tiger]

I think theres a few bugs with the "unknown blessing" ui

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm... with peril so quick warp resist might actually be a negative stat cause it hurts quietitude.

[olive ember]

It cleaves through armor so it’s got a purpose I guess

[olive ember]

Eh everyone runs warp unleashed nowadays

[true shadow]

wow!

thanks shop!

[ornate hamlet]

It also was before the patch, considering it fulfilled the same purpose

[olive ember]

Hey +1 stamina heard that’s good for deflector

Now watch hadron ruin it

[cyan notch]

gotta see if it bricks

[lethal lagoon]

@olive ember I'm talking warp resist the actual stat, not the feat. I haven't run that feat in ages.

[olive ember]

Precog + superiority

[ornate hamlet]

Deflector chads stay winning

[true shadow]

it is yes

[olive ember]

Oh eh it won’t rly matter I don’t think for the most part

[wide tiger]

i got a buncha precogs and ripostes today

[true shadow]

idc if hadron ruins it

[shadow wigeon]

It depends on the staff. Surge still builds peril very quickly, and now just makes Quiet stronger.

[true shadow]

i have slaughterer already

so its fine

[olive ember]

Lmao fair

I need to get another slaughterer 4 sigh

[true shadow]

:D

[shadow wigeon]

Although fast quelling was odd before. It was kind of nice to stretch out your peril shield going into melee.

[true shadow]

i cant see if hadron ruins it until i get bak from work anyway

[stable silo]

think wildfire is worf ?

[olive ember]

The only one I have is on my original FS and I ain’t scrapping that yet for the fucking Deimos

[true shadow]

i shouldnt play until my eyes get better

[umbral jetty]

i've been trying to get roll staves with warp resist and quell speed as the dump stats

[wide tiger]

sigh

[true shadow]

because my eyes are extremely dry

[ornate hamlet]

Well, I did get a 7% first target, so your dream is possible

[lethal lagoon]

There's another positive to the Illy FS, you have a method of building peril really fast on your FS.

[jovial quail]

Haven't been on since last year, does this build still hold up pretty well with purg staff? It's what I ran in heresy+/damnation back then but heard things have gotten nerfed since

[olive ember]

1/1/1/1/1/2

[true shadow]

https://gyazo.com/b223bf2a0426d2c43a7912075e6b874d

this is my build

otherwise i go with 1/1/1/1/1/2

[olive ember]

KF on a purge build?

[stable silo]

ooooh no wildfire

[true shadow]

Yes.

i like having the extra sudden damage

it has saved me many times

[jovial quail]

Kinetic flayer was invaluable for me back then since I never BB'd, did they buff it or something heavily?

[stable silo]

wouldnt it proc on pox all the time?

with a purg

[lethal lagoon]

Does warp unleashed hit burn yet?

[true shadow]

it prioritizes elites

[olive ember]

They made stacks fall off one at a time

[stable silo]

yeah crow it does

all dmg now

[jovial quail]

@olive ember Ohh wow thats huge, guess I could see value in other things now then for sure

[lethal lagoon]

What a shame. I can't justify my favorite feat anymore 😦 bye wrack and ruin.

[true shadow]

KF isnt super useful for most cases but i justify it by not wanting to BB still

because slaughterer FS.

[olive ember]

With purge builds 6 stacks allows you to kill all shooters, gunners, trash via dot damage

[low viper]

This'll do for a good while unless I get a really good slaughterer soon

[stable silo]

kf is good for gunker lightin up elites with wnw or was

[true shadow]

i dont really focus on my staff is why i dont care enough

[shadow wigeon]

Warp Flurry purg is a monster now

[olive ember]

With warp unleashed on top of that the burn also kills flamers and ragers apparently

[clear heath]

How's wildfire?

[olive ember]

So yeah

[olive ember]

Looks cool, actual performance TBD

Personally I think it’s mid and warp battery is still better

[stable silo]

dont forget wildfire is competing with additional 8% dmg

[olive ember]

Especially since it’s synergy with AB + WU let’s it burn ragers down now

[true shadow]

oh wildfire sounds so fucking cool

[lethal lagoon]

No matter how good it is, 6 warp charges is just too fucking good on AB

[shadow wigeon]

For Purg I think it is a gimmick

[true shadow]

no, get this derpy

you dont even need to run purg with wildfire

just ascendant blaze and use it to clear massive crowds

because they die and their stack transfers

lol lol lol lol

[jovial quail]

Wildfire didnt feel all that amazing in the meat grinder, granted that's such a small scale versus actual gameplay but it just wasn't stacking as well as I thought it would

[true shadow]

holy shit

[olive ember]

You don’t but I tried running it with autopistol and it’s kinda meh

[cyan notch]

wildfire is decent if ur using other sources of soulblaze

[true shadow]

im sure its not as good as, you know

Spewing out constant fire

[lethal lagoon]

AB already hits the whole map, spread to who?

[true shadow]

but it sounds really fun for if you want to run other staves

[olive ember]

The problem is that you can’t transfer more stacks than the initial target or wte

[faint vault]

Been testing wildfire with purg. Seems week.

[olive ember]

So eventually the fire dies down

[jovial quail]

Yeah any other staff that's not purg I could definitely see the utility of it being huge

[faint vault]

weak*

[wide tiger]

it does, i think its better for small amounts of soulblaze

[true shadow]

spread more stacks to already burning :)

so they die of more fire :)

[wide tiger]

Things like blazing spirit trauma, or fire sword, etc

[true shadow]

im gonna try it on my FS focused gameplay before i go to work while half-blind

[wide tiger]

maybe blazing spirit void

[true shadow]

and see how it works

[wide tiger]

maybe wrack and ruin, but honestly, hard to complete with flayer or warp battery

[summer prairie]

blazing spirit trauma makes more sense

[olive ember]

The problem is that it’s gotta be small consistent amounts, tried it on my gun Psyker builds and yeah unimpressive because pressing F once every like 30 seconds was kinda meh, especially since I could only build up to 4 stacks (using KF on a gunpsyker is surprisingly important)

Prob the only legit use of wildfire is on crit blazing spirit builds tbh

[true shadow]

i tentatively agree

[wide tiger]

or wrack and ruin builds which wont exist anymore due to warp unleashed

[shadow wigeon]

Second grey rolled Hadron gave me a Flaming Sword contender. Sick.

[lethal lagoon]

@true shadow It can't exceed the previous total stacks, it does nothing for AB.

re-read the patch notes

[wide tiger]

I HATE YOU

but also grats

[true shadow]

maybe i understood it wrong. i am currently half blind due to eye irritation from a fire.

[wintry ivy]

How's the performance on the new swords?

[olive ember]

I forget is blood thirsty or shred the one you replace now

Cuz on one hand bloodthirsty nerf but on the other hand

[shadow wigeon]

Dude I'm not sure now haha

[lethal lagoon]

Basically if an enemy has 6 stacks, and an enemy next to it has 6, it does not increase to 10.

[olive ember]

One charge, one heavy

I think shred tbh

[wide tiger]

Did bloodthirsty take a nerf?

[shadow wigeon]

Did they change BT?

[olive ember]

Idk when you will need that crit

Replace shred for slaughterer

[wide tiger]

Is it only one hit now?

[summer prairie]

remember, wildfire spreads to new targets no matter how the target dies as long as it had stacks

[granite zephyr]

Suggestions on force swords?

[olive ember]

Only applies to next hit

[wide tiger]

ooooooh shiiiiit

[olive ember]

No longer applies for 5 seconds

[wide tiger]

fuck blood thiiirsty

suckas

[shadow wigeon]

That's.... a real bummer then

[olive ember]

Yeah I think replace shred tbh since

Special attack resets shred

So run blood thirsty slaughterer imo

Let’s you do a charged swing into a guaranteed crit heavy

[shadow wigeon]

Goddam. Flaming Sword is dead then.

[summer prairie]

bloodthirsty is still good for illisi special attack spam

[shadow wigeon]

What a sadness.

[wide tiger]

they really snuck that change in

their wording is super devious in the notes

[stable silo]

Be a man reroll shred to blazing spirit and channel the light of the emp

[shadow wigeon]

Other way around I think im keeping shre and swapping BT for blazing

I want my flaming horde sworde

[olive ember]

Nah Shred is kinda mid imo

Every time you special the chain resets

[stable silo]

Haha but dont you wanna be like he man power up the sword then fiiiire

[orchid nacelle]

purgatus staff chads just keep winning

[shadow wigeon]

It's only one attack now, which is well disappointing

[stable silo]

I want a good purg bad i like fire

[olive ember]

Actually yeah just go into meat grinder n look at buff icons

See how often you drop shred

[stable silo]

Stack crit dmg on illis run blazing and wildfire

I think thats gonna be the new meme build

[wide tiger]

I have a firesword

its funny but not worth

[stable silo]

If you just keep pooping out fire

[near wyvern]

I bet. Wish I had it, my Illisi has Slaugherer 3 (lock) and Shred 4 while waiting to get Bloodthirsty.

[wide tiger]

you can keep everything on fire

so you can stack charges with ab

[shadow wigeon]

Keeping shred up on horde looks easy.

[wide tiger]

dont need purg

[summer prairie]

unstable power is a good contender though

[craggy valve]

Do the new force swords still have the whole deflector block thing going on

[shadow wigeon]

So im ditching bloodthirsty, that's junk for the MK5 anyway IMO

[wide tiger]

mk5 is the aoe one?

[stable silo]

Mk 5 duel ?

[wide tiger]

i think thats the only one that cann use it

[shadow wigeon]

MK5 FS - yeah aoe one

[wide tiger]

effectively

[stable silo]

Haha

[wide tiger]

special kill repeat

[shadow wigeon]

MK5 = Duel, FS and Axe

[near wyvern]

Shred is easy to stack with illisi cause it's one or two heavies and you are capped.

[hard breach]

So guys, how is the 2h force sword?

[timber shale]

W&R+wildfire could be really nice when brain bursting crushers

[hard breach]

Not played in a while

[near wyvern]

Not released

[orchid nacelle]

i keep getting god tier purgatus staves

[wide tiger]

cept warp unleashed is an allstar now

[hard breach]

Was it not in the content drop though? trailer i watched just showed it?

[stable silo]

Im jell games givin me top tier shredders and void but no purg or melee

[timber shale]

true

[olive ember]

I mean mk 5 just makes me think of antax so

Yeah

[orchid nacelle]

just normal FS variants

no 2h yet

[wide tiger]

otherwise id say yeah wrack and ruin could utilize wildfire

[near wyvern]

There were no 2h force swords you ogryn

[timber shale]

pretty hard to compete with +25% damage

[craggy valve]

Two different one-handed FS variants.

[olive ember]

there’s the OFS (original), DFS (single target), and IFS (horde clear) but they are all force swords not force greatsword

[wide tiger]

Wasnt there a 2h force sword datamined though

[orchid nacelle]

it was but

not in this patch

[stable silo]

Psykers need to only use 1 handed weapons because due to their exceptional intellects they play one handed

[near wyvern]

Yes

Hence not released

[orchid nacelle]

you should be able to hold a staff in your other hand

[wide tiger]

Still holding out hope for it

[timber shale]

the datamines were just weapon icons, people inferred from the icon that it was a 2hFS but it might just be a different mk

[shadow wigeon]

haha

Soulblaze kills still proc Shred 😮

[olive ember]

I mean someone named dropped it like convenant mk 7 force greatsword

Or wte

[orchid nacelle]

i will miss kinetic overload tbh

[olive ember]

I won’t

[stable silo]

Did u really use it though like really ?

[wide tiger]

kinetic overload, hard to miss when you never noticed it

[shadow quail]

Covenant Mk VIII Blaze Force Greatsword

[orchid nacelle]

i used it on every build yes

[hard breach]

Speaking of which, can we yet those blessings from the staffs that proc soulblaze on crit to the staffs that actually crit now?

[stable silo]

I didnt use it once not even if there was a fire

[full egret]

explain?

[near wyvern]

Rest in Piss Kinetic Overload. You achieved absolutely nothing.

[orchid nacelle]

overgoad

[shadow wigeon]

It kinda looks like a bug. When someone dies to soul blaze, the buff icon for Shred pops up.

[near wyvern]

Nexus Spirit Trauma with Wildfire

https://youtu.be/3FmAcILS7PQ

[gilded viper]

so what if, point blank, use FS to get high peril which to revovler for the crit + hopefully have enough damage to 1 shot everything

[safe crystal]

It was part of metapsykerTM though, so we need to figure out what the weakest feat for that tier is now

It was easy when it existed

[olive ember]

I mean wildfire with no means of producing fire is pretty shit lol

[safe crystal]

True

[spice oar]

i want one too sibling, however we 2 new swords is still 2 new swords i guess

[safe crystal]

[olive ember]

The problem is warp unleashed

[near wyvern]

If they didn't patch it all dot ticks count for on hit stacks.

[olive ember]

That’s shit gotta get changed

Peril resist prob? Idek

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10V9qOJMSgyHJ5/d13373CN7EAO?invite=cr-MSxiVW8sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

its time

[spice oar]

give us a flail or smthn tho and ill be content forever more

[safe crystal]

It has to be resist, even though its not the weakest

[mortal crest]

Holy fuck lmfao

[gilded viper]

OMG

[mortal crest]

That looks so fun

[safe crystal]

It would make wildfire work though

[gilded viper]

think i should go for 6 stacks? i really like KF alot and kinda don't want to let it go

[spice oar]

the build pls holy shit

[safe crystal]

If we used wrack

[viral solstice]

i mean the build is just 6 warp charges force unleashed and a half-decent revolver

[hard breach]

Nice. I still want Blazing Spirit to be able to be put on surge though

[olive ember]

Probably something like 2/2/2/3/2/1

[viral solstice]

the issue with the revolver is literally just

[mortal crest]

I wanted to test that idea out but mob spawner isn't workin' for me after the update.

[orchid nacelle]

still no variant staves though :(((

[viral solstice]

its still a revolver

[spice oar]

o and hows trauma nowadays?

[viral solstice]

so 5 shots long reload and a very sus blessing pool

this was the revolver

[gilded viper]

this is my BIS revovler and no im not removing speed load i need to pretent im vet 2.0

[olive ember]

Also with how fast quelling is warp resist is kinda meh now

[orchid nacelle]

trauma is good but only when you find out where the enemies spawn from

[viral solstice]

arguably tier 4 gloryhunter would be really useful

[knotty star]

no shot they buffed psyker?

[mortal crest]

Real

[viral solstice]

speedloader is unironically better than the other blessings so

why would u

[orchid nacelle]

they shouuld just make staff M1 be hitscan

[olive ember]

So yeah 2/2/2/3/2/1 is new MetaPsykerTM

[spice oar]

ill prob fuck around with it then

[viral solstice]

like i dont think people understand quite how bad the revolver blessings are

[gilded viper]

🤝

never hear anyone talk about it so 😛

[sleek yacht]

deimos 1shot heavy on headshot stab mutant with 5 stacks of slaughterer and 4 charges xd

[olive ember]

Stfu crucian is amazing

[near wyvern]

No. Fun is not allowed with Surge.

[sleek yacht]

not practical but kinda cool

[olive ember]

Best blessing ever

[full egret]

wait

[viral solstice]

yes incredible

[full egret]

how is Wildfire not a dead perk?

[viral solstice]

the funniest thing about crucian

[near wyvern]

That the reload takes forever.

[viral solstice]

is that pre-nerf crucian on revolver

was still a worse damage buff than most damage blessings

[olive ember]

Cuz it looks cool and people are still figuring it out

Slowly but surely

[spice oar]

want a staff that is a beam, kinda like siennas