psyker-class

[forest coral]

The deimos i can see really good

[olive ember]

they share blessing pools

[orchid nest]

yeah actually insane in melee lmao with absorption. depends on staff I guess

[forest coral]

but itll take alot of practice

and ull want something that can cover for hordes

or someone

[west galleon]

Im really excited for the horde compatible force sword

Guess i'll have to let my devils claw go

[rocky cedar]

I'm surprised so many people still don't understand that blessings are shared across different MKs of the same weapon TBH

[forest coral]

Ill show u some shitty psykanium stuff i just did to give an idea

[humble star]

Psyker antax pickrates plummeting

[forest coral]

good

[spice veldt]

trust issues with fatshark

[forest coral]

antax is boring as fuuk

tac axe 7 kinda better on pysker anyway with push attack> heavy

[spice veldt]

tac axe heavies have a damage cap

[austere estuary]

this patch looking tasty

[spice veldt]

same goes for push attacks

that's why I think the mk4 TAxe is better because the lights are all diagonals

[olive ember]

I blame force staffs

so yeah

[pine relic]

I love the new swords.

[humble star]

tbf none are shared any of the "force" staff options. So Psyker players expect the worst at this point.

[royal granite]

every time i see an axe psyker they are like "don't worry guys i got this", charge 3 berserkers and get downed

[rocky cedar]

I dunno force staves feel pretty obviously to be entirely different weapons to me

[forest coral]

https://streamable.com/vq16rk

not the best test

[rocky cedar]

Not saying the system is good

[forest coral]

but here's an idea how cracked it is

[rocky cedar]

But it seems pretty consistent to me

[summer prairie]

you can basically stack enough damage buffs that Illisi can one-shot as many poxwalkers as you can hit with a single swing

[humble star]

They could do the same thing with "force" swords too if they wanted. This is FS we are talking about

is very differnt pointy sword

not the same guys

[orchid nest]

is this including perk? would you bother having infested on it?

[olive ember]

Now we just need a force Thunder Hammer

yep yep

its a thing, just normally only used by Grey Knights kek

[summer prairie]

well if you really want to one-shot every poxwalker you cleave, yes you want the perk

[limber silo]

Look, we were hoping to get a warp Power Cycler blessing. We're just coping

[humble star]

Force gun

[wet jacinth]

Where is my Agrip IAG with a Chain Blade underbarrel

[limber silo]

Psychic Knives sounds cool

[spice veldt]

equinox staffs :(

[pine relic]

Force Evi

[royal granite]

surprised they didn't give us a force axe

[pine relic]

that would be dope

[limber silo]

Inquisitors can use Daemonhammers too. Usually it's Ordo Malleus tho

[pine relic]

But it's extremely rare.

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-drink-stare-gif-15410130

And

?

[limber silo]

True, but look at us. A billion intermediate level psykers sitting in the same ship

[royal granite]

force and power swords are exceptionally rare to begin with

[still hearth]

Any time someone talks about lore shit

[limber silo]

None of us seem like Weird veins

[still hearth]

I throw up a bit in my mouth

[wet jacinth]

We ain't lore accurate

[still hearth]

[limber silo]

We're a bit too cognizant for that

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[royal granite]

yes and that's good

[humble star]

Give them to the prisoners

[limber silo]

FS did good with the power scaling IMO

Kept it low while keeping it a cool at the same time

[royal granite]

or rather, we are lore accurate, we just aren't accurate to the lore that lives in space marine fans' heads, where only space marines can use anything other than a lasgun

[limber silo]

Beast of Nurgle is too strong for us, but it's a cool af monster so yeah

[wet jacinth]

Meanwhile ogryn with full auto weapons

[limber silo]

I was happy to see we can't shoot a bolter full auto while ADS

[olive ember]

I forget aren't we ordo malleus

[limber silo]

Makes sense so we don't break are fucking shoulders while shooting

[wet jacinth]

Me: I WANNA FEEL THE RECOIL

[olive ember]

with all the demons n shit we fucking see every mission

[near wyvern]

Papa Melk gave me my new gunker's best friend. This is like what Devil's claw should have been.

[limber silo]

No Ordo Hereticus

[olive ember]

Bon Bons and DH's everywhere

[orchid nest]

dragging with the illisi charged heavies is so satisfying

[olive ember]

aw

[wet jacinth]

Me: also upset brauto recoil was buffed to be easier to control

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

[limber silo]

We kill heretics primarily. Daemons as a necessity

[royal granite]

how would they break your shoulder, they've got no stock! bolters are upsetting.

[limber silo]

Just when they show up

[limber silo]

It's big enough that you can put the back of the gun on your shoulder

[wet jacinth]

all the teams I play with that avoid them in normal play but wake up every single one in lights out

[limber silo]

Beasts are Daemons too mind you

[drowsy slate]

Would love to see a video of voidstrike staff with surge blessing. If someone is capable of doing one

[orchid nest]

I don't have t4 slaughterer but trying this right now. might roll the flak to maniac, just testing still

[rare furnace]

Boys so it’s full w

[limber silo]

Hit damn

Hot

[rare furnace]

Just red the patc

[near wyvern]

Illisi is the greatest force sword of all, it's gonna get nerfed for sure

[limber silo]

Psykers eatin' good tonight

[sage yacht]

maybe it's been a while since I've used a force sword but is the audio on the charge special super fuckin distorted?

[near wyvern]

I can one tap light poxwalker and groaner heads with a couple stacks of slaughterer

[limber silo]

Quicken seems actually viable now

[near wyvern]

it's a meat grinder

[rare furnace]

We got stub one and cleave one right?

[limber silo]

Maybe run it on Surge w/ Flayer?

[near wyvern]

see a crusher? knock him on his arse and BB

no problem

[near wyvern]

yes the stab is ass

hits like a truck with second heavy but it's a single target stab and you could always just special

[rare furnace]

Oh isn’t it execution ?

[wet jacinth]

HE IS BECOMING ONE WITH THE WARP.

[rare furnace]

I thought it could oneshot armor

[orchid nest]

charged heavy into regular heavy feels pretty good too since the second one is the decent cleaving heavy from the obscurus

[pine relic]

Do I even want uncanny strike on this sword?

[rare furnace]

What is the name of the horde cleaving one so I don’t buy the wrong

[limber silo]

Illisi

[wet jacinth]

Is that the new mk sword design or a cosmetic drop?

[near wyvern]

if you want to stab crushers in the face but I mean... BB

[olive ember]

ehh not really you would need slaughterer stacks... gl building it on the deimos unless you have soulblaze dots leftover

if you wanna one shot armor just use the original FS

[pine relic]

It already deals massive damage to armour enemies.

[olive ember]

it can do the job just as fine with more versatility

[pine relic]

new sword

[wet jacinth]

I see

[limber silo]

Anyone know what Illisi means? I know Deimos is a god of terror

[royal granite]

i kind of hate that they put all the complicated vulnerable machinery RIGHT ABOVE the crossguard, normally the ideal place to block a blow with a sword

[olive ember]

the only thing the deimos is good for is against specifically elites like maulers n shit iirc

[olive ember]

I kinda hate how the horde clear weapon is a thin blade, and the fucking pointy stab stab weapon is fucking hooked

legit swap the two fucking skins and yeah

[sage yacht]

lol warp unleashed made autopistol even better now

[limber silo]

You are assuming that box is full of tech instead of placebo nonsense to make us think it's better

[austere estuary]

oh no, game crashing randomly now

[near wyvern]

the hooks would get latched on so can't have that on horde clear

[austere estuary]

after it was so stable for me on last patch

[near wyvern]

with the single target one you deal damage on your way in and out when you stab

[austere estuary]

literally just in psykarium and boom

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[limber silo]

I know a lot of psyker equipment is bs hoodoo nonsense to make us work better

[royal granite]

yeah the fish hooks are another matter entirely

[olive ember]

totaly

[austere estuary]

new cleave force sword seems really nice

[royal granite]

what is this, a whale hunting sword?

AHAB GIVE ME MY FORCE SWORD IT IS TIME

[near wyvern]

wildfire seems to be really solid with Blazing Spirit staves

[royal granite]

fuck that sounds dope actually

[limber silo]

It's for kill Beasts of Nurgle and your mom, so yeah. Whale hunting

[pine relic]

Also, I think uncanny strike does not increase FS's special attack damage.

[sweet drift]

That's probably why psykers use their brain to block blows

[limber silo]

Please don't get Crab angry about rending again

[limber silo]

That a good point, we don't even use the sword to block

So why do we need the sword at all?

[sweet drift]

Too much warp is bad

[limber silo]

We can do the same force push w/ laspistol

[summer prairie]

do you get full executor stacks when you do an activated illisi heavy 1 swing?

[sweet drift]

force sword can help psykers channel their powers instead of just popping open hell

[limber silo]

So clearly is about us, not the weapon

[sweet drift]

Its a magic las pistol

[pine relic]

Gonna try this

[sweet drift]

Is the phallic sword any fun?

[limber silo]

Then why the fuck does it not shoot warp blasts?

[sweet drift]

It's not that magical

[limber silo]

That's why it's called Deimos. The heretics are afraid of you and your giant dick shaped sword

About to impale them

[weary idol]

deimos force sword is pretty fun

[sweet drift]

[weary idol]

incredible how it can do damage without having to use its activation

[sweet drift]

How is your properly balanced power sword?

[limber silo]

Thise damage numbers are pretty nutty

[stuck sinew]

I really really really want to get Bloodthirsty and try it on the psyker power sword

[rancid spruce]

I still have issues playing something else than Warp battery + ascendant blaze for killing rooms of shooters without even trying..
I never really liked the 10% chance BB due to randomness in peril management..
Wildfire seems interesting while playing purg, but once again, does it really outweight the mentionned combo ?

[stuck bridge]

wow there was actually some love for psyker in this patch

[austere estuary]

anyone been able to get the game to launch without crashing with mod loading active?

[weary idol]

and the anti-horde combo for the deimos is really fun

[summer prairie]

Yes, you need a new mod_loader file from their discord

[weary idol]

it reminds me so much of saltzpyre's rapier in VT2

[summer prairie]

not sure if it's on the website now too

[final bay]

Yes, but you have to manually update the mod load file

[honest frigate]

The content patch actually added more than a few weapons congrats fartshark

[cyan notch]

please eat my ass with t1 perks on consecration

[summer prairie]

and you need to update/disable scoreboard mod

[limber silo]

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE

[olive ember]

mods are down so yeah

[austere estuary]

I got the new mod loader that's on nexus, is the discord one even newer?

[final bay]

Yes

[austere estuary]

sweet, thanks

[pine relic]

You can try unstable power + slaughterer to push for maximum damage.

[limber silo]

How tf am I supposed to be the gigapsyker without my door spam weapon

[honest frigate]

Unstable power needs a buff imo

[pine relic]

uncanny strike is not bad against metal head though.

[weary idol]

also chad warp unleashed

giving psykers nearly 50% passive damage boost just for existing xd

[limber silo]

You are forgetting how Power works

[cyan notch]

unstable is pretty good

[austere estuary]

unstable power, did they make it have stacks now?

[summer prairie]

it always had stacks

[honest frigate]

Then tell me cuz yeah im quite clueless @limber silo

[summer prairie]

it gets +% at 20,40,60,80 now

[limber silo]

%power is a huge buff to damage cleave and shit

[austere estuary]

oh nice

[summer prairie]

so +20% power at 80 at t4

[austere estuary]

that's amazing

[limber silo]

Even a little boost is strong

[olive ember]

they fixed the stacks so its 20/40/60/80 instead of fucking 30/50/97/97

[weary idol]

also both of the new force swords can block ranged attacks even without deflector so that's nice

[austere estuary]

my ol' 11% warp res, nearly maxed on other stats FS will be happy

[weary idol]

and definitely getting patched

[austere estuary]

knew it was goodto keep it

[honest frigate]

Thanks Sussadin

[patent steeple]

i guess i should get rid of my installed numerical HUD values mod now that it needs a new installer... (i suck at manually updating stuff)

[limber silo]

Still, nowhere near as strong as Slaughterer, but still

[weak galleon]

Is Wildfire a new meta for purge?

[tropic pollen]

how is that new horde clear FS? is it a power sword for psykers?

[weary idol]

power sword for a single hit

[austere estuary]

hmm, sorry I'm struggling to find mod loader discord, found the github but

[limber silo]

Power/Heavy

[austere estuary]

can anyone point me in the right direction?

[limber silo]

Check out Nexus and the modding Discord, they can help

[weak galleon]

sounds like time to reinstall Darktide.

[austere estuary]

yeah trying to find the modding discord is my current struggle

[weary idol]

this fucking stab heavy does SO much damage

[leaden thunder]

y'all eating good with the new force swords?

the cleave one seemed really good

[kind jay]

doing t5 now ill let you know

[leaden thunder]

[final bay]

Where my shredder psykers at? Thoughts on the new feat changes? Debating Wrack and Ruin vs new Warp Unleashed, that flat damage seems p hype. Also Kinetic Flayer vs Wildfire.

[austere estuary]

new peril changes are interesting though

should make riding high peril really good again

[idle bay]

I fell in love with sword instantly. Now i need to farm Slaughterer blessing to finalize it 🙂

[austere estuary]

buit man

warp unleashed vs peril res is a tough choice for me now

[cyan notch]

just take warp

[austere estuary]

with peril res + warp flurry 4, trauma can cast as many as like 15-20+ times before needing to quell

[cyan notch]

quell is faster now anyway

[austere estuary]

like

[leaden thunder]

might have to actually play my psyker now

[austere estuary]

no matter how fast we quell

[leaden thunder]

try out the new schtuff

[austere estuary]

20+ full charge turbo casts is great

[idle bay]

Uleashed = pressing R after 2-3 casts
Tranqulity - if you want to spam

[austere estuary]

also more mileage from flurry

but FAT damage buff

[idle bay]

But singe quelling from 100% to 30$ takes almost instant.... It's simply choice for playing with more buttons pressed

[austere estuary]

actualy choices

yes but when we quell we lose our flurry stacks

sitting at 50% with flurry 4

is kinda huge

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10VnanYq1DnJeh/d1337duG4MzE?invite=cr-MSx4T3AsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[idle bay]

I'm lazy - i don;t like to track buffs and pushing too much buttons so my choices are sub-optimal but comfy 🙂

[summer prairie]

too bad FS activation removes executor charges, could actually be decent otherwise with Illisi

[limber silo]

I want a 0% warp resist Illisi so I can do ultra damage on acrivation

Unstable Power for Unga bunga time

[wet jacinth]

Cowabunga it is

[weary idol]

christ

[wet jacinth]

[viral solstice]

they gotta fix all those blessings that do this

shred loss on parry on devil claw

is such a tilter

wow i did a sick parry bye shred stacks

[wet jacinth]

It's the SmolAngyCrab

[limber silo]

Deimos seems like a good choice w/ Purge

Deletes crushers and the sort

[weary idol]

i'm shocked at how much damage the stabs do

it's insane just casually annihilating elites with the light stabs

[limber silo]

It's beautiful

Gunker is actually not meme-y anymore

[near wyvern]

optimal

[weary idol]

what do you mean anymore?

[limber silo]

Illisi + Shredder for big boy damage

It was meme-y dude. Until we found out about pinning fire, it was a joke

I know you are the Gun Psyker Enjoyer, but I only ran guns because I had no good staves. Now I'll try it since we have a little variety in melee force weapons

[kind jay]

AYYY

LOL

[weak galleon]

lol

[limber silo]

Look at the raw, it looks low

Hopefully good blessings to scrap

[fiery atlas]

this is what i said lmao

[fiery atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-techpriest-binaric-screeching-screeching-gif-20192683

[limber silo]

Ik gunker boy was coping

[kind jay]

oh my god

[limber silo]

That's kinda garbage

[kind jay]

its extremely garbage

[fiery atlas]

[honest frigate]

its got good first target

and decent perks

it could be worse

[limber silo]

You can't win em all son

[kind jay]

i used this one for a t5 just now

the run went absolutely fantastic

[fiery atlas]

tbf this isn't that bad considering the special deals weak spot dmg

[limber silo]

Like guaranteed?

[fiery atlas]

well, it depends

[restive surge]

first roll :p

[fiery atlas]

i've had inconsistent results in meat grinder

[limber silo]

Or are you saying that if you hit a weakspot it does more damage?

[fiery atlas]

on trash hordes, yes

but on armored enemies...that's different

[limber silo]

I know BB auto targets weakspots

If special does too, that'd be crazy

[fiery atlas]

no

when you charge the special and hit enemies with it, it deals weak spot damage

[limber silo]

O:

[fiery atlas]

it's consistent on trash hordes/poxwalkers

HOWEVER

on armored enemies, it's not like that

[limber silo]

Oh

[fiery atlas]

illisi special ignores hit mass

allows cleave even through bulwark shield

[limber silo]

That's very nice

I disliked bonking my heavy special on bulwarks with the obscurus

Made me sad

[viral solstice]

WAIT

DO NOT USE THE NEW QUICKEN

[fiery atlas]

you still have to hit them from behind w/ the special

[viral solstice]

EVERYBODY IN THE AREA LOSES THEIR SOUL

WARNING DO NOT USE

EXTREMELY CURSED

[cyan notch]

ok i wont

[fiery atlas]

wait so

[shut willow]

I like it

[fiery atlas]

4stack psykers aren't viable?

[viral solstice]

u cant go and live with emprah in heaven

with no soul

[honest frigate]

real

[viral solstice]

real... and factual

[near wyvern]

oh yes they are

[honest frigate]

unfortunate that you dont have a coconut crab in your pfp

[fiery atlas]

oh i thought crab boi was being serious

[honest frigate]

i'd be tempted to do a Amelia Earhart joke

[restive surge]

so gaining 1 warp ---) 60% toughness with the right talents

[viral solstice]

i was just makin a funny about hte tooltip talking about losing souls

because they will never tooltip in a sane manner

[austere estuary]

melk going for the tempt

[fiery atlas]

every time you abuse quicken, a redditor logs on to 4chan

[austere estuary]

OH

[shut willow]

Can all Force Swords deflect ranged attacks now or did I just discover a bug?

[austere estuary]

thanks mr regular store

[fiery atlas]

depends

do u have deflector on

[summer prairie]

it's a bug at least with the new ones

[feral verge]

based

how did hadron brick it

[devout moon]

I don't have deflector and just noticed that

[shut willow]

I had Deflector on, then swapped it for Blazing Spirit 😄

[wide tiger]

Two swords!!!!!!!!

2

[weary idol]

also why does the deimos seem to give you a small speed boost when you draw it?

[spice veldt]

that was an old bug from the early days of darktide, but they somehow reintroduced it with the new force swords

[austere estuary]

we shall see in due course

[weary idol]

huh

weird

[austere estuary]

20% flak on first perk

good start

exorcist 2

[feral verge]

this was my first roll.

[shut willow]

Was on the Illisis Sword

[austere estuary]

might actually be good

out ofplasteel

[wide tiger]

TWOOOOOOOO

[devout moon]

Yes

[wet belfry]

Is this good?

[uneven drift]

Wrong chat i guess.

[austere estuary]

wait... did they really fuckin make the new force sword blessings separate???

[wet belfry]

Veteran chat is dumb anyways

[rocky cedar]

This is Psyker chat lol

[feral verge]

no

[rocky cedar]

What no?

[austere estuary]

oh no thank goodness

[cyan notch]

he just doesnt wanna go to vet chat

[austere estuary]

phew

can still add slaughterer 4 to it then

[wide tiger]

understandable

[austere estuary]

sick

[feral verge]

been away for a bit

[austere estuary]

wait, exorcist might be amazing on this

[feral verge]

thoughts on deimos?

[austere estuary]

deimos really does the big damage on single with that heavy stab

but you better have good horde clear on your ranged

cause it sucks ass at horde

[feral verge]

or deimos vs regular ol blaze force sword

[cyan notch]

very good better than obscurus imo

[feral verge]

i am running purga rn

just rolled a decent illsis or whater its called i forget

im alt tabbed rn

[wise ruin]

what u guys think?

[rocky cedar]

I'd definitely give Deimos a try with purg

[feral verge]

i should roll a good deimos then

[near wyvern]

shit blessings

[cyan notch]

deimos has very good mobility by default

[feral verge]

ooo

[cyan notch]

i had a 21% mob roll and it was still + dodge speed and distance

[devout moon]

The illisi I use

[feral verge]

i only have 300k $ left

i had almost 700k

spent on illisi

but i have 27k plasteel atleast

[cyan notch]

i spent 2.5m

[devout moon]

Feels like a power sword with the amount of cleave I get, damage is pretty good too

[idle bay]

I rolled and consecrated nearly perfect one first try. While unable of obtaining even T1 Slaughteres for FS since beta....

RNG have a sense of humour in my regard for sure

[final bay]

https://i.imgur.com/of72u5T.png some things never change

[shut willow]

I TRUST YOU ARE PLEASED, VARLET

[austere estuary]

INTERESTING

also holy shit

quelling now ticks like

[final bay]

PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH

[austere estuary]

INSTANTLY

[austere estuary]

chain bb is now way faster from max

[idle bay]

What should i re-roll Unstable power into provided i don't have even t1 Slaughterer?

[cyan notch]

u should keep unstable imo

[low onyx]

Is deimos supposed to do less damage to carapace than the obscurus

[idle bay]

too late i'm lazy Deflector fan.

[orchid nest]

yeah unstable is great with the new thresholds

[austere estuary]

guys not to encourage bad ideas but, the new self detonate vocals are pretty good and funny

[cyan notch]

no it does same/more

[feral verge]

hmmmmm

[idle bay]

I did noticed that they are different 🙂

[old delta]

Guys

[tropic heron]

How psykers. Zealot here. How the new force swords changing you're role

[low onyx]

Maybe mine i s just asshole I guess lol

[old delta]

Is it just with me, or the new Force Sword blocks ranged attacks naturally?

[shut willow]

Yep

[old delta]

I don't have the deflector blessing

[austere estuary]

also staff swings bug fixed, no more swinging to get warp flurry charges

[idle bay]

Role are the same - to kick ass . Now we can kick more ass and bigger ass

[feral verge]

we have horde clear melee, and apparently an even better single target sword

[limber silo]

We have your heavy sword and we put a brain into it

[tropic heron]

I see

[limber silo]

Now it is very angry at all heretics

[low onyx]

Oh do you need to use the force charged stab heavy w the deimos

[final bay]

Time to play around with this thing https://i.imgur.com/HTeVNN6.png

[tropic heron]

Do you guys get to use the shotguns too or only swords

[shut willow]

Just wish the anti horde sword would have 2 charges per special attack so you could do 2 heavies

[wide tiger]

oh they buffed the regular fs too

hoorah

[austere estuary]

wait

[limber silo]

Psyker doesn't have shotguns

[tropic heron]

Ah

[austere estuary]

staff left click doesn't even build warp flurry now either

[limber silo]

Yeah, it was already good too

[wide tiger]

wildfire ehhh

lets gooo baby

[feral verge]

k. psyker ruined. they need to drop this patch

[patent steeple]

i have good news: i realized while testing the new cleave force sword in the meat grinder that the newly buffed Warp Unleashed feat affecting ALL damage means soulblaze dot is also affected! either that, or the devs increased the soulblaze max stack count or something...

[austere estuary]

really makes peril res stay competitive more

[limber silo]

Oh snap

T2 feats are really a toss up now

All of them seem great

[rigid sky]

What would you use the old force sword for now that Deimos exists? I guess it might work better for Surge?

[wide tiger]

OMG THEY FIXED PERIL ZBLESSINGS??!?!

jsdfakghsrdtfghfdg

[limber silo]

All rounder. It does single target well, and crowds if you can micro

[wide tiger]

i thought it would be years

[rigid sky]

Obviously you have the cleavey one for use with guns or Voidstrike I guess

[cyan notch]

old one power crept imo its pretty much inferior to deimos

[limber silo]

I would run Illisi w/ surge

[rigid sky]

Even with the buffs?

[austere estuary]

old one def a good allrounder imo

[final bay]

I'm just hyped for deimos with the new warp unleashed to keep my peril higher while running shredder :v)

[patent steeple]

i tested the meat grinder on damnation, and noticed that at high peril each high stack soulblaze tick deals about 140-170 damage or something

[limber silo]

Old fs is good. Not bad at all

[austere estuary]

I like this three set of FS now

really good

[rigid sky]

My plan is to go Purgatus/Deimos for now and try to get an Illis/Voidstrike pair going

[limber silo]

Very balanced group of weapons now

[cyan notch]

deimos is a better all rounder imo it has stronger heavies and doesnt have a terrible light2

[limber silo]

One for all occasions

[rigid sky]

I guess old pairs ok with the other two?

[final bay]

Now if I could get a nice cosmetic outfit I'd be Gucci. But all the outfits suck except the collector's edition one I'm using.

[limber silo]

You don't like the heresy drip?

[wise ruin]

so what staff do u guys play with the new force swords?

[feral verge]

this thing is gonna fuck

[final bay]

It's okaaaaay. I like a lot of the unreleased Psyker outfits we've seen, tbh

[austere estuary]

hmmm

quicken seems still kinda not quite there

can't tell in psykarium though maybe

double charge gain is nice though

[wide tiger]

Anyone know which mod is crashing my DT?

re-enabled

my mods

[limber silo]

Probably all of them

[feral verge]

im wondering this too

[cyan notch]

probably best with aura

[summer prairie]

scoreboard

update it

[limber silo]

Just disable until we figure it out

[feral verge]

i want to use the reroll until rarity mod

[final bay]

Scoreboard and Mod Loader needed updated in my case, but seems to be fine otherwise

[summer prairie]

but you also need the new mod loader yes

[feral verge]

do you need mod loader

or just the new version

cuz i havent been using mod loader

[summer prairie]

you have

it's the toggle_mods.bat

[feral verge]

mod loader as in mod framework?

[summer prairie]

no

[feral verge]

hmm

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/19

says i've never DL'd it

[summer prairie]

you need to get it from their discord anyway

[feral verge]

ohhhh

yeah im in their discord

i forgot i DL'd it from there

thanks

[pine merlin]

i remember when they did...

[cyan notch]

#1079236663840100453 message

[feral verge]

ty ty ty ty ty

[weak galleon]

So what's the actual difference between Obscurus/Deimos FS?

[summer prairie]

heavy 2 does like 2.3k damage to e.g. mutants

no activation

[sly shore]

is special forcesword warp attack?

[austere estuary]

jesus though, warp unleashed 6 stack brainbursts

those are crazy

still can't 1 shot dog though 🥲

[feral verge]

they need to rework psyker still ugh

bad patch

;/ ):

[frail berry]

I get like all 6 stacks back instantly after using ascended blaze now...

[austere estuary]

well

that's kind of expected

it already could do that sometimes

[feral verge]

it's been like that

[austere estuary]

now it's better

so it'll really do it

[weak galleon]

on crit, you mean?

but yeah, looks interesting

[austere estuary]

oh

wonder if double warp stacks works for essence harvest?

[summer prairie]

on weakspot hit

[austere estuary]

like essence harvest had a thing before where it sometimes doubled up

[safe crystal]

Time to roll the other new sword

[austere estuary]

and now we have a way to guarantee simultaneous double stacking

[feral verge]

nice

[austere estuary]

might be very strong if it works

[feral verge]

hhmmm

i do not crash on load anymore with mods

but

mods no work

(yes i have toggled the .bat)

[austere estuary]

I got mods going atm

[weak galleon]

damn that heavy 2 is a nice, and seems like it got a hidden crit chance increase?
Way too many crits for white weapon

[austere estuary]

current loaded

[feral verge]

i DL'd the new mod loader and shiet

[summer prairie]

did you put the file in the right folder

[feral verge]

binaries, right

[austere estuary]

if he didn't then the game would crash

[summer prairie]

toggling once might have disabled them

[austere estuary]

probably that

[feral verge]

i have toggled, un toggled and retoggled 2 or 3 times now

[austere estuary]

hmm

burn the whole installation to the ground, it's haunted

[feral verge]

oh

[wide tiger]

Well

i loaded in

[feral verge]

lmao

[wide tiger]

but hub hotkeys

crashed me

[feral verge]

it overwrote my mod loader.exe

[wide tiger]

when i used it

lol

tried to go right to armory, ctd

but hey, im in

[summer prairie]

did you update scoreboard

[wide tiger]

ty @summer prairie

[weak galleon]

so, is Wildfire actually great with Purgatus?
hard to tell from psykhanium

[rare furnace]

BOYS IM ADDICTED TO ILLISI

CLEAVE AND CLEAVE AND OHH CLEAVE MORE

[idle bay]

Welcome to the club.

[rare furnace]

😎😎😎😎

[feral verge]

i havent played a game with it yet

[rare furnace]

Ok pskyers are main characters now

[feral verge]

and i think im addicted too

[rare furnace]

GO

FORGET YOUR WIFE

go to the sword

[feral verge]

i gotta set shit up first

[rare furnace]

Haha kk

[wide tiger]

is it... is it like...the power sword?

[feral verge]

mine

[weak galleon]

Psyker discovers a power sword, heh.

[feral verge]

need to fix reroll until rarity mod

for flak 4

[idle bay]

Bootleg Power Sword. But still good

[rare furnace]

And I was about to start a vet

[feral verge]

...

can we ban this guy

[weak galleon]

1 charged attack power sword.

[rare furnace]

First time ever I use max mobility finess and I just feel so fast

[feral verge]

need force cycler blessing

force PSYkler

[idle bay]

1 charged attack power sword that build up Peril... BUT! Can hold-lock enemies and knock on the ass pretty much every foe including Ogryns

[wide tiger]

I guess this one is good now:

[weak galleon]

Illisi has quite high peril consumption though - not that it takes alot per hit, it's just very spammable.

[idle bay]

Knock - charge - smack, Knock - charge - smack

[rare furnace]

Haven’t upgraded but this white thing hyped me so much on movement attack ratio

[feral verge]

that's going to fuck. congrats

[wide tiger]

im so excited to try warp nexus!!!!

[idle bay]

Slap A Deflector on MK V and you have tool for safe relocation to get close and personal with pests (shooters) as well

[potent echo]

with wildfire?

[weak galleon]

is Kinetic Deflection still highly usable or Mk5 axe or nah?

haven't played since they've started hitting psyker with nerfs.

[blazing oak]

New weapons, but no new weapons

Power force sword ye

[weak galleon]

Illisi is pretty new

[blazing oak]

But they aren’t new unique weapons, they are new variations

[feral verge]

aight. wish finesse was higher, but very acceptable

[weak galleon]

Would it make it different if it had different model and name from normal force sword?

because it is pretty different after all

[wide tiger]

Can i still dump warp resist on the Illisi?

[feral verge]

i would

[summer prairie]

sure but may not want to

[feral verge]

my ideal would be balanced stats tho

everytihng at 70+

[wide tiger]

wat

that would require good stats

[river sand]

well, spend 1 million on Illisi and wow the highest was 361 with 47% dmg ....

guess i need to wear ordo dockets curios

[austere estuary]

I bought a 378 illsi from the normal shop 🙂 grey item

[wide tiger]

best i got:

or:

[stuck sinew]

My third purchase one is 371

[weak galleon]

got 352 Deimos and 375 Illisi on first try, lol.

[warm spindle]

WARP UNLEASHED EFFECTS ALL DAMAGE

[near wyvern]

yes

BB is a monster now

[warm spindle]

QUICKEN DOUBLES YOUR WARP CHARGE GAIN

+2 WEPS

[weak galleon]

wdym

[warm spindle]

THIS IS THE UPDATE WE WANTED

[weak galleon]

what changed about BB?

[near wyvern]

you can spam BB at 97% so you always get the +25% from WU

[weak galleon]

Right.

WU also affects BB as of this update.

[near wyvern]

all damage

[stuck sinew]

So can BB one shot ragers or flamers now

[near wyvern]

soulblaze, BB, guns

[feral verge]

oh shit

[weak galleon]

does it affect SB stacks?

[feral verge]

i missed that

[digital narwhal]

How we feeling about the new weapons and Psyker buffs so far?

[near wyvern]

Illisi is stronk

[gilded viper]

they fix passive quelling

[weak galleon]

I feel like going Sienna now, with Wildfire and Purge.

[blazing oak]

Swords be swording

[near wyvern]

the new feat wildfire is stronk

passive quell is stronk again

[gilded viper]

time to stop using the 30% DR feat

[weak galleon]

burn the rats

[feral verge]

aight

[digital narwhal]

Wildfire?

[weak galleon]

err

[feral verge]

lets test this shit

[weak galleon]

mutants.

[feral verge]

high int (damn ofc)

[weak galleon]

New perk.

[feral verge]

we running this

[near wyvern]

and they fixed battle meditation with quietitude

so quietitude is kinda the only reasonable option now

[blazing oak]

No Force axe?

[near wyvern]

quietitude wu is the meta

[gilded viper]

might be a hot take but i like slow passive quelling to kepe up passive that relies on high peril but oh well

[near wyvern]

try illisi special and there is your axe

[blazing oak]

That’s not an axe

[wide tiger]

somehow melk still did not bring me a force weapon

[gilded viper]

also this patch is CRAZY, so many weapons

[digital narwhal]

So essentially Soulblaze kills cause it to spread to adjacent enemies?

[gilded viper]

did psyker get the new shotguns as well or no?

[celest hedge]

I don’t think we can use shotguns in general

[weak galleon]

not SB kills.
Kills while target is affected by SB.

[celest hedge]

We did in the original beta but not in the pre order beta

[gilded viper]

😦

[digital narwhal]

Oh, so it doesn't even have to be the tick damage?

[stuck sinew]

I want to see a Bloodthirsty/Blazing spirit elisi

[digital narwhal]

That's pretty awesome

[weak galleon]

yep

[digital narwhal]

Pogging

[austere estuary]

okay one big drawback feel on the horde clear FS

lack of brutal momentum etc

[celest hedge]

Gonna have to give both types of force swords a try now

[summer prairie]

brutal momentum would do very little

[kind jay]

nah horde fs performs extremely well

[celest hedge]

I just really want the stabbing one to be like the rapier/spear

[humble star]

Doesn't need, just stack slaughterer and charge it up and you ready to vroom vroom

[summer prairie]

your heavies already cleave 10.5 mass with the activation and with slaughterer it's 18+

[warm spindle]

fact

[austere estuary]

oh yeah forgot I need to add slaughter still

[warm spindle]

a force spear would be cool as fuck

[fleet bear]

feel like they nerfed the plasteel amount

[celest hedge]

The dueling sword already works like the rapier if I want a weapon that works like the elven spear in verm 2

[wide tiger]

wait did they change the regular fs lights pattern

[cyan notch]

no

[celest hedge]

Was my favorite weapon to use on elf, would switch back and forth with the glave with felt similar to use too

[summer prairie]

Still not sure if any of the force swords are worth using over the dagger with most staves

[wet belfry]

You could use illisi's special attack to proc warp absorption for big toughness gains?

[wide tiger]

second light in the chain feels different

[celest hedge]

The dagger is cool but I feel like you need to play a preacher to get the most out of it, otherwise I think you’re better going heavier like a tactical axe or dueling sword

[humble star]

dagger push attack spam and mobility

increase to damage at high peril just made dagger push attack even stronger too

[gilded viper]

[feral verge]

we died not even 10 mins in lol

but feels great

[gilded viper]

i wonder if i can make force weapon work on gun psyker now thinking about it

[cyan notch]

its the same its always been a garbage upswing that doesnt hit heads

[wide tiger]

hmm

alright, just me being paranoid

[warm spindle]

is that scoreboard a mod?

[feral verge]

yeee

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22

[calm depot]

new force sword is weird, it's a worse power sword.

[feral verge]

theres 2 new swords

[gilded viper]

hmmm think my mods crashing the game

[calm depot]

thrust sword is ok by me, but cleave sword is the worse powersword

[forest coral]

cleave sword is a stronger heavy sword with optional power up

[feral verge]

a worse power sword is still a power sword

so is good

[vagrant furnace]

i think this is a fun update but i dont know about the quelling changes; maybe this does make gun psyker viable again but at the same time it makes starves even stronger, i guess we'll see in the long run

[calm depot]

i suppose.

[gilded viper]

how is it worse haven't got in the game yet

[blazing oak]

Agree

[forest coral]

and its not even bad at killing elites either

[cyan notch]

idk u tell me

[gilded viper]

1 more quesiton before i get into this patch, all FS share blessing right?

[calm depot]

it's got one cleave after activate and it uses perils and it does bad damage to elites. powersword has like 4-5 cleaves doesn't use perils and shreds elites

[celest hedge]

The power sword doesn’t have a peril requirement but we should have much better feats and stuff for going into melee

[humble star]

IMO it's the opposite, thrust sword seems redundant when we have original FS

[gilded viper]

BRUH THIS LOOK GOOD (unless i fail my math and college ain't for me)

[delicate smelt]

took FS to put a new force sword in the game for deflector to show up on a consecrate.

[potent echo]

i like the peril tho

give you free 25% damage

[calm depot]

i like the uncharged heavy poke, i've got 10% melee weakspot and it instakills all shooters

[potent echo]

uncharge heavy poke is amazing

[celest hedge]

Does the charge attack count as a warp attack for that feat to regen toughness on warp kill?

[calm depot]

yes

oh thts a good point

[blazing oak]

What about instead of a thrust sword we got a thrust spear or something. Would the increase in range help make it not redundant?

[celest hedge]

If so, than you can build it around each level 5 toughness feat

[humble star]

whatev works for you, New best horde clear option for Psyker opens up a lot of build potential tho

[gilded viper]

mlik 😦

only FS he have

[kind jay]

i mean slaughter 4

[gilded viper]

time to gacha game now i guess

i have it, i think

[kind jay]

you dont

[gilded viper]

let me double check i don't trust FS

[kind jay]

it shows it on the icon

[gilded viper]

wait

[austere estuary]

don't forget normal credit store

[gilded viper]

that so fucking dumb

i thought the icon mean i do own it

[austere estuary]

oh thanks emprah, nice gift

[gilded viper]

ty for telling me that 🙂

[kind jay]

np

[austere estuary]

warp flurry 4 on this nice to have in theory, now if only I ever played it

[celest hedge]

The cost to charge the sword gives you a good option to build peril in melee combat and with clearing hordes, you’re trigger the peril drain on kill, so the regen on passive peril purge is good. Charge up hits counts as warp kills so that other talent can work against trash, and warp charge on kill with communion is nice on a horde killing weapon

[austere estuary]

also magic point I just realised

378 but only 1% missing from 380

[warm ledge]

was bloodthirsty nerfed this patch? used to be 5 secs of guaranteed crits, now it's only applying crit to the next attack

[cyan notch]

yes

[humble star]

Yup, FS decided the new horde clear force sword would be too broken with it

so the blessing is now RIP for the others

[austere estuary]

what are we thinking for perks on illisi?

flak+???

unarmored as usual, or maybe maniac?

[forest coral]

maniac is pretty good on it

unarmored is not necessary

[warm ledge]

shame, i was hoping to try it on that one

[forest coral]

its shreds unarmored without it

[austere estuary]

maniac nice for clearing ragers and muties

yeah

good point

[forest coral]

Unyielding isnt bad on it either

[austere estuary]

unarmored gonna die anyway

[humble star]

would have unlimited uptime fun, but would be busted

[austere estuary]

oooh yeah since we don't have the one button nuke

[forest coral]

but Id say flak and maniac would probably give most results

I tried carapace as well

it can 3 shot maulers to the head

with power hit

[austere estuary]

that's not terrible

have you tried after rending shockwave?

[forest coral]

nope

[cyan notch]

yea its better to go for headshots on maulers with illisi funny enough

[forest coral]

just purely meleeing

[austere estuary]

might give that a go

[forest coral]

oh also

it has funny hitbox

if u jump as u do powered up cleave

almost always will be a weakspot hit

and it charges so fastr

u can chain jump chops

[austere estuary]

so far for warp flurry 4 trauma though, I definitely feel like peril res outperforms

still

[gilded viper]

HOLY SHIT second heavy crit headshot do crazy damage

[cyan notch]

yes

[austere estuary]

damn

that's some serious murder

[cyan notch]

doesnt translate into its special though

[calm depot]

im real happy i rolled that 10% weak spot dmg

[brazen temple]

it could be kinda comparable if it empowered 2 hits as powersword does

[gilded viper]

so far the deimos force sword feel nice, move set don't feel like cancer

time to try the great sword everyone been wanting

[austere estuary]

yeah all the FS are oretty nice

[celest hedge]

If you go with the toughness on warp kill feat, the horde clear force sword is probably best paired with a void strike staff, void stack for AOE damage that can hit stuff outside of the range your sword, you blast enemies from a distance and when they get close, switch to sword and do charges hits to keep the toughness going, and you still have BB for big damage

[austere estuary]

I miss the movespeed though

[forest coral]

overall all the new FS are very strong

[austere estuary]

I had been using this:

[forest coral]

Deimos is kinda nuts if u block cancel with it

poke> heavy poke

[celest hedge]

Ooo, that’s a really nice dueling sword

[austere estuary]

only 5 points off max

[celest hedge]

Aww, but brain too small for animation canceling

[gilded viper]

damn great sword can't kill crusher, but that ok, that what BB for

[celest hedge]

How fast is the new pokey FS?

[sharp jackal]

fast

[celest hedge]

Nice, comparable to dueling?

[sharp jackal]

catachan claw level of fast

[full kite]

I’m late to the party

[forest coral]

its major downside seems to be cleave

[full kite]

How are the new force swords?

[sharp jackal]

if you run if with purg then is super good

[forest coral]

new blaze sword is pretty goated

Illisi

[gilded viper]

will i basically use the same BIS blessing from OG fs to the new ones as well?>

[forest coral]

Deimos is like, elite smacker

[full kite]

Better against hordes?

[forest coral]

yeah

[full kite]

there’s two right

[forest coral]

here gimme sec

[celest hedge]

Yep 2

[austere estuary]

illsi with slaughterer is horde consumer

[brazen temple]

but still kinda a worse version of veteran's power sword

[fallow meadow]

The new stabby FS feels like the old one but with more stabby.

[forest coral]

https://streamable.com/vq16rk

[austere estuary]

and hits plenty hard enough to consume elites tucked into hordes

[celest hedge]

One stabby, one like power sword

[full kite]

Honestly that’s fine with me, I really hated struggling against hordes

I know BM Caxe is goated but the range on it felt so weak

[forest coral]

deimos is gonna need alot of practice to get used to

[celest hedge]

Ok yeah, that really is just the heavy saber

[fallow meadow]

Did you try, using fire?

[forest coral]

but its definitely very strong

[spice veldt]

prob shouldnt light spam unless you really have to

since lights only have 2 cleave

compared to the 6 of heavies

[tropic lagoon]

Does anyone have a good video of the stab sword?

[stuck sinew]

Damn it's worse than the most overpowered melee weapon in the game? shame

[gilded viper]

[forest coral]

in a way its better than powersword without power cycler

[gilded viper]

idk why i bother pass blue btw

[celest hedge]

Blessings look nice

[forest coral]

since ur unpowered up attacks are basically heavy sword

[humble star]

Amazing horde clear melee weapon like a PSword or Heavy sword was like the only thing Psyker was missing IMO. Now I will never run perg staff again

[spice veldt]

force sword normals are pretty good on their own

[gilded viper]

wait for illisi should i be wanting warp resistance to spam it then???

[celest hedge]

Original force sword never felt good to use for me

[spice veldt]

and they also buffed the damage of force swords across the board

[forest coral]

original force sword needed animation cancel to be decent for hordes

[spice veldt]

obscurus had access to slaughterer and that made it quite good

[forest coral]

not great, decent

illisi is like

nuts at mixed hordes

[full kite]

Original force sword I loved to pair with lightning for the single target stun into force sword special one shot combo

So satisfying

Until more than one elite spawns in damnation

[gilded viper]

[full kite]

Which is always

[forest coral]

Deimos id only really use it with either autopistol or purg

its horde clear is basically slightly better than knife

which isnt saying much

[fallow meadow]

I am thinking pairing stabby FS and purge

[humble star]

Now put FS slaughterer duration up to the levels of every other weapon with it

[gilded viper]

think this might slap

or should i replace exoricst

[spice veldt]

deimos still has 6 cleave on that 1st heavy

[humble star]

Honestly wish it just had nonstop thrust heavies

that thing is massive DPS

[forest coral]

its a very vertical diagonal tho

[spice veldt]

i'd still say it'd be better than the knife by a decent magin

[forest coral]

but its not too bad either like

im testing it right now

Heavy> light> heavy> light

[fallow meadow]

I was hoping for 2hand FS. A bit disappointed.

[humble star]

counterpoint, I want to zoom

[summer prairie]

knife is for mobility+complete safety

[forest coral]

gives similar results to original fs with animation cancel

[pine relic]

Finally, we can one-shot ragers. Is everybody happy?

[cyan notch]

always could

[spice veldt]

you can run fast with the force sword by holding the heavies

[gilded viper]

^

[summer prairie]

yeah it's not even close

[dire smelt]

is there any practical application for wildfire?

[summer prairie]

it looks decent in grinder tests but not sure if in actuality worth it over 6 stacks due to AB

[near wyvern]

zero stack AB build, the staff has blazing spirit so it increases the stacks whenver it crits

https://youtu.be/3FmAcILS7PQ

[forest coral]

but anyway, Illisi definitely going to be my go to sword for quickjoins now

its easy to use and does well in almost all situations

[pine relic]

I really shouldn't re-activate mods, now the game just keeps crashing on start.

[dire smelt]

total amount of soulblaze stacks on new enemies cannot exceed the dying one though

cant really setup a chain reaction

[cyan notch]

yea you and 99% of psykers

[pine relic]

I'm using Deimos

[forest coral]

nothing wrong with that

[pine relic]

[humble star]

maybe to a non dagger or dueling sword user it seems fast

[spice veldt]

smh wanting to use good weapons

i'm not saying that it's comparable to duelling swords or the knife

but it's still quite fast

[humble star]

not enuf zoom once you've gone full zoom IMO

[forest coral]

you can be fancy about your weapon picks all ya want

[spice veldt]

and I'd rather have the force sword for slaughterer

[celest hedge]

It sounds worth using even if it’s or the SSS tier

[spice veldt]

the comfiness of having strong ass pushes is too good to pass up

[celest hedge]

And nice to have variety

[forest coral]

As long as you can do work with it, who gives af

[summer prairie]

maybe with trauma, but when pairing with void or purg, illisi serves the same role

[pine relic]

The FS has a bug right now I think.

[celest hedge]

I think void is good because void has more range compared to purge

[cyan notch]

knife kinda sucks vs crushers and u gotta hit headshots or crit vs mutants and u cant really do anything vs ragers besides dodge and try to get hits in

[pine relic]

it can block range attacks without deflector

[forest coral]

im just happy for it, since we can deviate away from purg builds for a bit and still have good mixed horde clears now

[humble star]

Dagger push might not have the aoe, but they are still stupidly good and fast. Also have one of the best push attacks in the game IMO

[summer prairie]

knife is very good vs mutants, but yeah you have to dodge and then headshot

[celest hedge]

If you have a horde in melee range than you should be using purge instead, but enemies outside of melee ranger are still at a good range for void

[humble star]

When paired with Psyker Stam regen it's stupidly safe

[spice veldt]

the dagger's push-attack is not going to compare against 10 cleave heavies that deal 66 minimum cleave damage

[celest hedge]

Hit the horde with a couple balls from range, than switch to force sword in melee

[spice veldt]

just go into the meatgrinder and test out what a +60% power push will do to groaners/poxwalkers

[gilded viper]

guys wtf

do KD have deflector now

[forest coral]

no?

[spice veldt]

the obscurus doesn't have inherent Deflector

only the deimos and illis it seems

[pine relic]

It's a bug, I just said.

Deimos has Deflector.

[gilded viper]

using the illis rn and i have deflector

was like no way i just block that

[pine relic]

they are probably gonna fix it soon, don't rely on it.

[gilded viper]

fuck it ill just slap deflector on it so i won't

[forest coral]

btw has anyone tested deimos on boss units yet

[humble star]

Nope, but still the safer option in my book. You can snooze on a match with combat knife defenses.

[forest coral]

i disabled my mods cause it was crashing the game after patch

[summer prairie]

quelling one tick takes roughly 275ms now and it was over 600ms before the patch, I think

[cyan notch]

yea it does like 1k dps vs plogyn

[forest coral]

[warm ledge]

anyone else noticing the combo on the obscurus FS seems a little off? there seems to be a small delay after the stab that's messing up my muscle memory

[left briar]

quelling so fast now

[forest coral]

Im considering slapping it with purg staff permanently

[spice veldt]

it seems that you need to hold the 2nd heavy longer to actually perform a heavy

otherwise you perform the god damn 2nd light

messing with my muscle memory

[humble star]

RIP

[spice veldt]

the attack speed is the same, just that you need to hold longer to initiate the heavy

[weak galleon]

what should I rebless it to?
I assume Carapace to Flak, and blessing?

[spice veldt]

since you could previously hold it for a little shorter and it would automatically go through the rest of the heavy startup anim for you

[forest coral]

you'll want slaughterer in there somewhere

Carapace isnt an awful option

id replace melee crit chance with either flak or maniac

[full kite]

Tbh id replace crit, it’s not really reliable for crits and I’m not too sure if it even hits breakpoints with it

[spice veldt]

and crits don't really affect cleave damage that much

[weak galleon]

Is SB on crits + wildfire not worth it?

[humble star]

Does carapace even matter on that thing tho

[forest coral]

you can 3 shot maulers in damnation by power charged headshots with carapace

on the illisi

[weak galleon]

same reasoning here, carapace gets BB instead.

[humble star]

any illisi user is just better off BBing like he just said

[forest coral]

but thats more of a mixed horde benefit than anything

[celest hedge]

Is general quelling so fast that it’s closer to how staff quelling was before?

[humble star]

would rather get happy surprise of random crit than that

due to FS having high finesse

[forest coral]

i really dont like rng

but if thats ur style, why not

[spice veldt]

but crit really only affects the first target you hit

[dark marsh]

okay i just played new mode on t5 and its pretty good

[humble star]

I don't like actually completely useless perks more than gambling tho

[weak galleon]

not sure what my style is with Illisi, yet.

[left briar]

illsi kinda nice

[weak galleon]

I like the name tho.

for some reason

[left briar]

i like it tho i prefer mobility of dueling