Its pretty good and will basically be BiS unless you get a legit god roll
#psyker-class
ornate hamlet
I'd swap out the crit damage for maniac or carapace tho
yeah agreed
potent echo
Yea crit damage wouldn't matter
rocky cedar
Another good question
potent echo
Also two handed force greatsword when
ornate hamlet
Its pretty good and will basically be BiS unless you get a legit god roll
literally just swapped it
and it went to manic
LOL
ornate hamlet
FIRST FUCKING ATTEMPT
ornate hamlet
Also two handed force greatsword when
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
olive ember
Also two handed force greatsword when
I mean we got a funny horde clear FS now
maybe thats the two handed
potent echo
OgrynHands
spice veldt
Illis supremacy perhaps
olive ember
Damn 4 warp charge AB looking more and more appealing
sadly I don't think its enough to push it over
its still 6 stacks to kill
so wildfire is kinda meh
potent echo
The special better be sending out waves like moonlight greatsword
rocky cedar
sadly I don't think its enough to push it over
Yeah but you have stuff like head taker and slaughterer to supplement
summer prairie
the max_stacks 4 does mean only 4 stacks spread even if the target is at 15
ornate hamlet
I mean we got a funny horde clear FS now
no the one we got is a single target one
fiery atlas
Illis supremacy perhaps
perhaps
restive slate
Are the weapons shop and Melk still inaccessible for everyone else?
olive ember
no the one we got is a single target one
check #📢news-bulletin
fiery atlas
potent echo
no the one we got is a single target one
There are two new aptterns
olive ember
we got two different force swords
ornate hamlet
its just the same force sword but pokey
ornate hamlet
check <#735418797992968252>
what.
potent echo
We got power sword at home
rocky cedar
I've been curious how Bloodthirsty + BS is gonna be on the new horde force sword
ornate hamlet
"Sword with a focus on horde management. When charged with Warp Energy it cuts through groups of enemies with increased power."
AAAAAA
YES
potent echo
Are the weapons shop and Melk still inaccessible for everyone else?
Yea shop not open, maybe next hour
rocky cedar
Y'know in a hundred hours when I can actually get one with those blessings
olive ember
Alright guys
ornate hamlet
fucking finally i can be schizo wizard gutz
olive ember
who wants to do sedition speedrun
gotta farm them emp gifts
who wanna farm sedition
cyan notch
the max_stacks 4 does mean only 4 stacks spread even if the target is at 15
yea its in the feat description
potent echo
gotta farm them emp gifts
Lmao I was thinking that too
spiral lion
sooo... when new weapons comming? or they already can be crafted?
idle bay
Animation Cancel still works on Void
rocky cedar
gotta farm them emp gifts
Just wait for brunts update lol
tight crystal
Going to try an replicate the blessing combo here onto the new force swords, charge printing here we go!
lone fractal
should take a few hours for the update to take effect
humble star
which force sword to try out first... hmmm
potent echo
which force sword to try out first... hmmm
Yes
cyan notch
bloodthirsty got nuked so
potent echo
Also didn't they nerf bloodthirsty
olive ember
and I no sleep
rocky cedar
Bloodthirsty nerf doesn't seem that impactful
spiral lion
Ogryns telling that weapons are online
lone fractal
its like 7 AM for me
rocky cedar
Especially not for the new force sword
cyan notch
for the old one yea
rancid spruce
Bloodthirsty nerf doesn't seem that impactful
You had 5s of 100%crit, now you have 1 100% crit during a 5s period
ornate hamlet
Going to try an replicate the blessing combo here onto the new force swords, cha...
I JUST GOT IT
I GOT THE TWO HANDER
I HAVE IT
idle bay
Tried Warp Unleashed then switched back.
Bonus damage is cool and all. But Inner Tranqulity allows more Surge spam and now works fatastcally with new Quicken 🙂 Now shock therapy session can last for really long! [Mad/Pained Laughter]
rocky cedar
You had 5s of 100%crit, now you have 1 100% crit during a 5s period
Oh I misunderstood the patch notes then
spiral lion
I GOT THE TWO HANDER
show us the beauty
summer prairie
I think you want to run +infested with wildfire
ornate hamlet
tight crystal
but its a fatter sword
Thicc*
summer prairie
Also here's a test https://streamable.com/r7rxc8
humble star
You had 5s of 100%crit, now you have 1 100% crit during a 5s period
yeah that's huge for a weapon with a super high attack speed like the FS
ornate hamlet
compact cargo
Fellow psykers, kinetic barrage or quicken?
nocturne badge
Kinetic barrage
idle bay
Quicken
humble star
not to mention FS crit damage is insanely high compared to most weapons
rocky cedar
KB every day of the week
orchid nest
yo that deimos light attack tooltip though
potent echo
Where in the world did you get that
orchid nest
rocky cedar
Oh hell yeah
compact cargo
KB every day of the week
With the latest changes, you hit a breakpoint to 2 shot crushers at 5 warp charges, getting to them faster is great
On the other hand, you can't press f unlike with kinetic barrage
still hearth
You don't need to get faster charges
idle bay
still hearth
You can be at 6 charges constantly easily
idle bay
New swords indeed
still hearth
compact cargo
You can be at 6 charges constantly easily
They still decay all at once don't they?
spiral lion
wait what? it's single target one yes? why it have cleave on heavy...
potent echo
Also here's a test https://streamable.com/r7rxc8
Funky
lethal folio
Quicken is for staff spamming.
fiery atlas
hecc this i'm going to go lay down
@ me when brunt's is back online
still hearth
Like at least a month
olive ember
hecc this i'm going to go lay down
@ me when brunt's is back online
its back on
compact cargo
Haven't touched psyker since January, but now that th special is gone time to try new stuff
fiery atlas
its back on
LKDJFALSDKJFASDF
still hearth
Psyker hella good atm
rancid spruce
not to mention FS crit damage is insanely high compared to most weapons
The base damage, however, was kinda low tbh. So yeap, you had to make a special kill, which opens you up for retaliation quite a lot if you're not careful, for a few seconds of "above average" damage
Right now I don't feel a tier 4 blessing using it.
fluid cove
Quicken encourages aggressive use of ult, Kb encourages conservative use. It's too soon to say quicken is dead or KB is always the pick. Try both.
summer prairie
Melk has a new FS for me too
still hearth
Quicken encourages you to BB all the time
And have 6 stacks
But its still worse than the other two options
potent echo
Dman
humble star
The base damage, however, was kinda low tbh. So yeap, you had to make a special ...
Well, after the nerf, it definitely isn't a worthy tier IV blessing any more
potent echo
and not a single FS
Can't you buy the grey ones
rocky cedar
Bloodthirsty could still be very good on the new FS but we'll see
olive ember
Can't you buy the grey ones
well yes but I am poor
potent echo
🫡
ornate hamlet
so heres what i got so far
summer prairie
surge+nexus might be good with the new thresholds
ornate hamlet
the pokey one works normal just higher damage
summer prairie
if you animation cancel
sour bison
whats the point of deimos sword?
ornate hamlet
whats the point of deimos sword?
more for single target
fiery atlas
I HAVE ACQUIRED
ornate hamlet
you fucking luck cunt
spice veldt
i was right about the heavy->light hordeclear on the deimos at least
olive ember
yeah alrlight
drowsy slate
Please try surge!
olive ember
single target is shitttt
potent echo
So the Deimos has better horde clear 👀
ornate hamlet
So the Deimos has better horde clear 👀
no
olive ember
it rly doesn't
olive ember
its so bad
potent echo
Damn
spice veldt
deimos' 1st heavy seems to have 6 cleave, though the stab only has 2
pine relic
is it good
ornate hamlet
its stabby
olive ember
its better damage, my grey deimos with like 50% first target does about as much as my 378 FS
but holy shit
that attack pattern
fiery atlas
ok so illisi sword special does weak spot dmg when you charge
olive ember
how the fuck are you supposed to use that
ornate hamlet
how the fuck are you supposed to use that
its for single targets
thats the whole point
potent echo
Like salty rapier
ornate hamlet
yeah
potent echo
Can you hold the heavy for more damage
ornate hamlet
YOU CAN PUT YOUR OTHER FORCE SWORD BLESSING ON IT
civic fox
Good morning siblings we are blessed this day
ornate hamlet
AHAHAHHAHAHA
vernal frost
Yes we are
potent echo
Yea it's all shared
civic fox
YOU CAN PUT YOUR OTHER FORCE SWORD BLESSING ON IT
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
fiery atlas
@spice veldt special seems on deimos seems undifferentiated from obscurus
ornate hamlet
IT IS
olive ember
just a heavy sword
civic fox
YOU CAN PUT YOUR OTHER FORCE SWORD BLESSING ON IT
SLAUGHTER 4 MY BELOVED
ornate hamlet
just a heavy sword
si
golden tartan
Huh, I think psykers can one tap flamers with a XII now
potent echo
just a heavy sword
Wait you telling me we get heavy sword
ornate hamlet
Wait you telling me we get heavy sword
si
potent echo
It's over zealors
fiery atlas
oh my god deimos is so fucking good
civic fox
I want that horde clear
ornate hamlet
just a heavy sword
its a heavy sword with a power sword charge up
fiery atlas
illisi may be my fav tho 
potent echo
Yes now we can finally use the single target forcestaff
olive ember
with a psword
ornate hamlet
we got an hsword
YYYYEp
tight crystal
Siblings, we know what must be done.
And now we have the strength to do it!
potent echo
Crickets
spice veldt
doesn't seem to be a reason to use the special on the deimos when the 2nd heavy exists good lord
fiery atlas
ok so deimos has some cleave on the second and third light attack
olive ember
doesn't seem to be a reason to use the special on the deimos when the 2nd heavy ...
Its a bit weird honestly
idk why the special applies to the first hit
and not the second
civic fox
I'm trapped I'm the warp (day job) fighting am endless horde of daemons (working) when the emporer has blessed me this fine day (we got new force swords)
potent echo
Maybe you gotta miss with the first heavy 
spring fern
yep im loving illisi
fiery atlas
vs deimos
civic fox
Do they have any new blessings?
orchid nest
the illisi is actually going to be awesome with slaughterer damn
drowsy slate
Is the horde clear force sword like a psword?
civic fox
I'm going to delete my current force sword for my slaughter roll :/ but it should be worth it
rancid spruce
Interesting, the new force sword is a lesser p.sword, essentially
fiery atlas
Is the horde clear force sword like a psword?
kind of
yeah
that's it
i'm maining illisi
orchid nest
Is the horde clear force sword like a psword?
on the charged attack yeah its similar. slices right through
drowsy slate
Is there a video of it?
orchid nest
I can stream it to you if you want
vernal frost
So you're telling me we get a heavy sword with power sword special
rancid spruce
Thing is, you have to charge it for EACH hit
drowsy slate
That’s sad
vernal frost
That's a bummer
hearty rain
Thank you Hadron?
orchid nest
it seems like it will be great with surge at least
spring fern
Quicken is actually useful now
hearty rain
Can put Bloodthirsty 4 on that thing?
spring fern
The recharge reduction is insane on our special with it and only have to BB 3x for max stacks
orchid nest
I think despite the bloodthirsty nerf it definitely still makes sense on the illisi, you'll be chaining the warp powered cleaves anyways and it'll help cut through the elites in the pack
cyan notch
i dont have any revolver blessings
solid lake
I think despite the bloodthirsty nerf it definitely still makes sense on the ill...
Throw the soul blaze on crit on it with wildfire, and you can purg staff with your melee slot
fiery atlas
revolver psyker is the meta btw
hearty rain
I am kinda excited
ornate hamlet
LUCKY AAAA
viral solstice
<:CC_xshut:1055149433622364261>
stay mad noob im going to one shot entire familes of heretic's with my cowboy shoota
fiery atlas
the psykers will now be useful up close and a distance 
viral solstice
potent echo
revolver psyker is the meta btw
That's the only single target ranged option psyker has
fiery atlas
olive ember
doesn't deimos make obscurus redundant now?
nah obscurus makes deimos redundant
summer prairie
This is with heavies, warp unleashed and slaughterer 3 https://streamable.com/jc2y03
orchid nest
yeah i'm excited for deimos with purg and illisi with surge myself
rocky cedar
Wow the Deimos stabs pretty legit single target
olive ember
why would you use deimos for like 10% extra damge when obscurus does that but also has horde clearing
rocky cedar
block cancelling light 1 over and over pretty funny
spice veldt
only downside of the deimos is just that the anims are a bit more vertical
ornate hamlet
This is with heavies, warp unleashed and slaughterer 3 https://streamable.com/jc...
how did you get your meat grindger like that
fiery atlas
voidstrike special op
spice veldt
also exorcist might be pretty good with the illis
viral solstice
ah u probably have an all or nothing rashad tho
potent echo
Are any mods working?
summer prairie
You need a new mod_loader file from their discord and then disable scoreboard mod and it works in the hub at least
river sand
soooo which force sword is the way to go now ?
orchid nest
why would you use deimos for like 10% extra damge when obscurus does that but al...
is it really that difference? I guess I need to try it. the tooltip on deimos looked much higher at least and the finesse bonus seemed similar. let me buy one..
fiery atlas
soooo which force sword is the way to go now ?
depends on ur job
viral solstice
soooo which force sword is the way to go now ?
they are all good pick the one u like
welcome to the future of psyker
feral verge
we eatin good
potent echo
Psyker has a future 
river sand
well i cant start the game .....
viral solstice
psyker is better at using guns than zealot
fiery atlas
psykers when they finally can stop eating off the floor and now can eat at the little kids table
river sand
crashed upon loading in ...
cyan notch
how much cleave is the illis
feral verge
they are all good pick the one u like
no NO NO NO there HAS to be 1 good sword, and the others HAVE to be considered bad and whoever uses the bad swords should be BANNED
viral solstice
thats dum af
ornate hamlet
all we need now is a major buff to brain burst
summer prairie
disable mods or get a new mod_loader file
rancid spruce
soooo which force sword is the way to go now ?
Depends on what you want.
The new force sword won't oneshot kill most specials like the previous one did
But you'll have more horde clear/control
spice veldt
i much prefer the illis since you don't get stuck with the special
and it still has the light->heavy hordeclear combo from obscurus if you don't feel like changing your muscle memory up
summer prairie
is it better than just heavies
frigid briar
so... why can't I see the new force swords? do i have to get them randomly before they unlock in the armory?
fiery atlas
i'm curious
feral verge
check brunt's armory
fiery atlas
does illis special negate hit mass?
feral verge
where you buy greys
fiery atlas
frigid briar
oh, they're there now. weird. oh well, not complaining
spice veldt
4 heavy-specials with a t3 slaughterer illis to kill 20 poxwalkers
summer prairie
Brunt actually gave me 379,379,374,374
viral solstice
do psykers get shotgun cant remember
idle bay
Ok now. Unstable Power does almost nothing, right?
fiery atlas
uhhh no
kind jay
sourmilk has some!
ornate hamlet
do psykers get shotgun cant remember
we we did in beta
kind jay
kinda trash tho
viral solstice
wtf
feral verge
i guarantee im gonna spend all 30k of my plasteel and still not get a god illisi fs
silent trout
there isnt a way to untrash an item is there?
viral solstice
fire round shotgun would be fun
fiery atlas
yeah i want a shitgun too
fiery atlas
silent trout
on a work meeting and just scrapped the wrong staff 🤦
idle bay
Fun part - Force Swords SHARE blessings 🙂 All models
feral verge
on a work meeting and just scrapped the wrong staff 🤦
its gone forever
silent trout
ah well RIP surge staff for now
river sand
hmm running mods, lets the game crash on start for me now ....
feral verge
oh
feral verge
ah well RIP surge staff for now
that's the best staff you couldve scrapped
because all surges p much act the same
a grey surge is only 10% worse than a legendary
ocean charm
This is new wording or am i going crazy? Cos none of that makes sense in the context of the ability we have... We have "Psykinetics wrath" and not "unleash the warp" lol and we dont use souls do we? It's Warp charges. Feel like theres some oopsie woopie that snuk in there with the patch haha
covert flame
wasn't Souls the old wording for Warp Charges?
hearty rain
Is this salvageable in some way? | not even sure in which direction I'd wanna go
twilit flicker
Proof that psykers are actually playing dark souls
ocean charm
Feel like it's the internal teminology for warp charges
ocean charm
Is this salvageable in some way? | not even sure in which direction I'd wanna go
God that sword looks SEXY
fiery atlas
Proof that psykers are actually playing dark souls
psykers are abusing hitreg with the most op weapons
hearty rain
I feel like I performed some sacred ritual for the God-Emperor with my luck today , for he certainly blessed me
spice veldt
oh right melk's shop
feral verge
thanks melk
yoooo
summer prairie
Ok got something usable to test
viral solstice
im gonna find myself a good weapon (revolver)
cyan notch
(he bought it)
cyan notch
(hes lying he bought it and mains it)
cyan notch
melk gossips
summer prairie
cyan notch
seems like it has no falloff huh
ocean charm
Sexy, stylish AND useful
spiral lion
now make it 2 hander
feral verge
delicious
ocean charm
power sword for the psykers ❤️
idle bay
MK V FS is like bootleg version of Power Sword.. with power just for 1 swing 🙂
feral verge
the only thing this patch was missing was a new staff or two
ocean charm
For real
idle bay
Still cool though 🙂
summer prairie
More swinging https://streamable.com/kwukg5
spice veldt
oh fucking hell they made the push chain into the 2nd heavy on the illis
summer prairie
it's pretty easy to explode if you aren't paying attention
ornate hamlet
More swinging https://streamable.com/kwukg5
thanks just came
ornate hamlet
gonna go to sleep now thanks
cyan notch
warp resist meta
ornate hamlet
you can put slaughterer on the thing
god dammit stop making me splurge in my little psyker pants
anyways gn
compact bluff
something worth noting for the deimos sword, it has solid dodge distance reaching up to ~9.5%, and also dodge speed up to ~6.5%, interestingly enough
not as good as the other swords in damage, but infinite dodges + dodge distance + dodge speed is pretty rad and very unique
olive ember
"not bad" he says as he casually rolls a slaughterer
safe crystal
Wait, what the hell
safe crystal
Wheres our nerfs
olive ember
lmao
feral crater
feral verge
TRASH
lament sonnet
We psykers are eating good today
safe crystal
I cant believe we actually got away without accidental nerfs
cyan notch
bloodthirsty nerf
kind jay
the horde sword seems good but im not sure about the other one
cyan notch
cant nuke muties
weary idol
new deimos force sword is hot
I love doing 700 damage on a normal headshot against carapace
safe crystal
Oh, did they actually change bloodthirsty to be in line with the others on FS?
cyan notch
yea
idle bay
Also what perks to put on MK V FS?
ocean charm
God damn!
summer prairie
with slaughterer illisi is basically a power sword with only one attack per activation and peril management. Better mobility though
still hearth
Exorcism good?
spice veldt
and the special also staggers ragers
summer prairie
oh maybe
summer prairie
but bloodthirsty helps quite a bit
still hearth
Is pretty stupid on the cleave
spice veldt
OH SHIT WARP ABSORPTION
summer prairie
and if you quell you'll lose your warp unleaashed
still hearth
Though you can also run the quell thing with an exorcism sword maybe
And you get 2.5% and also quelling peril regen
Idk
summer prairie
lets see unstable power
still hearth
I think Quietitude kinda nutty now
feral verge
still hearth
With the peril changes
humble star
with slaughterer illisi is basically a power sword with only one attack per acti...
does slaughterer last long enough to repeat charge and heavy?
spice veldt
the problem with exorcism is that the first swing can't proc it even if you hit multiple weakspots at once
cyan notch
I think Quietitude kinda nutty now
yea
still hearth
Huh
Does Unstable Power do anything now?
Is it 4% per 20% peril
Or is it 4% at 100% peril=
cyan notch
unstable always been good
ocean charm
I think Quietitude kinda nutty now
what changed to make it "nutty" ? Thought it was always good
cyan notch
faster quell + works with battle meditation
still hearth
Yeah, that.
deft trench
ye ok
still hearth
It went from my top pick to "I basically only want to use this"
I already barely touched the other ones anyway
summer prairie
This is unstable power + slaughterer + warp unleashed https://streamable.com/cza5h1
quasi pier
Is it 4% per 20% peril
4% per 20%
still hearth
That's pretty good.
viral solstice
RASHAD META RASHAD META
thick carbon
ayo the Illisi slaps pretty hard 👁️👄👁️
near wyvern
Spirit Nexus void + wildfire is pretty lit
summer prairie
I think bloodthristy might not be worth it
cyan notch
This is unstable power + slaughterer + warp unleashed https://streamable.com/cza...
u can basically count on battle meditation once per swing so u can spam
summer prairie
unstable power +slaughterer meta
near wyvern
Cause you get 6 stacks ezy on and then spread it around
uncut hamlet
New update looks sick
I can't wait to try the new combination modifiers on damnation
still hearth
Every patch
near wyvern
Mods are working again?
uncut hamlet
Probably gonna die horribly but it'll be fun asf
still hearth
Has just been "Damn Psyker getting good"
safe crystal
Cause you get 6 stacks ezy on and then spread it around
Does it spread the stacks to everything around, or the stacks you have spread around? As in, something has 4 stacks and dies, does everything get 4 stacks or 4 things get 1 stack?
summer prairie
You can also wait for passive quell and then charge again,
uncut hamlet
Trauma still bad though lol
humble star
I'm just happy my combat blade has very good passive quell back. Best push attack headshot spam is back
still hearth
It's better than Surge
I'd say its close to Voidstrike
But Voidstrike is more versatile
valid lotus
new update looks fun so far
still hearth
If they buff Trauma damage against Infested so it can reliably one-shot hordes
It'd be in a good spot imo
quasi pier
It's probably still not good, but wildfire feat with a shred/blazing spirit sounds fun for perpetuating soulblaze stacks
spice veldt
do you take advantage of the trauma's stagger; if not, then I can see why it seems bad
forest coral
this sword is kinda silly
spice veldt
the outer radius will interrupt shooters if sufficiently charged
it's the best staff for monkeying against shooters
uncut hamlet
I'd say its close to Voidstrike
Voidstrike can either aoe or railgun and takes less peril to do it, granted they closed the gap a couple patches ago
still hearth
Trauma stagger is great and it does good damage to anything.
Voidstrike can't either AoE or railgun
uncut hamlet
this sword is kinda silly
The new sword model looks cool
still hearth
It can only railgun
spice veldt
voidstrike's AoE is terrible and it has a cleave cap on its epicentre
uncut hamlet
I like it a lot
still hearth
The AoE is only stagger
Like enemies need to be inside of each other to do the epicentre damage
uncut hamlet
That's fair
summer prairie
I want to see an illisi bloodthirsty+soulblaze
near wyvern
Does it spread the stacks to everything around, or the stacks you have spread ar...
It spreads stacks within 5 meters of target upon enemy death, a maximum of 4 stacks are spread (so to get the full effect you need to have 4 or more stacks on the enemy that dies.)
It also cannot apply the stacks on targets that have equal of more stacks than the original target.
uncut hamlet
Surge was always used to cc elites though, never to kill. I dislike it personally but when I used it for a bit it was fairly strong
Does rely on your team a lot to do damage
feral verge
It spreads stacks within 5 meters of target upon enemy death, a maximum of 4 sta...
on an AB + purga build, do you think that's worth it over warp battery?
uncut hamlet
I want to see an illisi bloodthirsty+soulblaze
What's bloodthirsty do again
near wyvern
So with spirit nexus void you easily get 3 stacks on nearby targets and 6 stacks on your main target with the quell cancel macro spam, then when that target dies, the surrounding 4 enemies are upgraded to 4 stacks.
near wyvern
on an AB + purga build, do you think that's worth it over warp battery?
Not necessarily. Purge stacks up flames really fast.
It can be but it sorta adds more AoE damage
uncut hamlet
I'm not sure purge with wildfire is worth it
idle bay
It's beyond frustrating when even with Full crafting system in place 653 hours player still does not have a single FS with Slaughterer 🙂 I don't have even t1 Slaughterer rolled on FS once 🙂
uncut hamlet
Since purge already stacks the fire up so fast as you said
still hearth
It doesn't need the damage stacks
safe crystal
Im sure this was already asked here, but.. I assume the blessings between the new weapons arent shared with the first FS we had?
still hearth
So Wildfire lets you clear hordes faster
summer prairie
Well the point is this https://streamable.com/r7rxc8
spice veldt
Im sure this was already asked here, but.. I assume the blessings between the ne...
they're shared
fiery atlas
imma give deimos a try
safe crystal
Oh,good
quasi pier
Since purge already stacks the fire up so fast as you said
It kind of incentivizes you to blast purg on horde, then switch to brain burst elites while you're melee friends kill and spread your soulblaze
still hearth
And also that
Just have a thick horde and you can watch them burn to death
Now imagine you're also adding more burn onto that
uncut hamlet
It kind of incentivizes you to blast purg on horde, then switch to brain burst e...
Thats true, I'll have to try that out as well
Once my computer stops crashing randomly
Lots of new things to play with, plus the combination modifiers
summer prairie
Ok lets see with the new nexus thresholds
viral solstice
it was already the most op
now its the double most op
think how many blebs that is
check this out right
so imagine ordinarily u have one (1) bleb
with surge u get 4 maybe 5 bleb
but with warp nexus
ur talkin idk maybe 20
thats SO many blebs
summer prairie
feels bad with no +flak though
viral solstice
dont need +flak if u use blazing spirit instead of warp nexus (this is a lie)
spring fern
So it seems with the Deimos sword the rotation is 1x light 1x Heavy for double single target pen and death to mostly everything
near wyvern
Well the point is this https://streamable.com/r7rxc8
How did you get mods working again?
summer prairie
new mod_loader filed from their discord
had to disable scoreboard mod due to crashing though
still hearth
Also Surge went from +2 shots on Critical Hit, to 2 Shots on Critical Hit in the text huh
weary idol
I can't believe they made the force swords not suck
quasi pier
Guys.. is this patch... actually unlimited power??
deep oxide
So what staff should i use with the new horde clear sword?
drowsy slate
How does surge function on voidstrike staff?
So you fire a loaded shot and when you Veit you fire an additional loaded shot?
river sand
yeah
covert flame
So what staff should i use with the new horde clear sword?
Gun staff
embrace the gun wizard
umbral jetty
revolver with new horde sword
summer prairie
steel flame
I cannot get home fast enough
deep oxide
i think ima stick with the voidstrike
orchid nest
what do you guys think about unstable power vs exorcism with the illisi for the second blessing
steel flame
I need to get home asap so I can darktide instead of sleep
feral verge
Drive safe
steel flame
Those 3 school zones won't know what hit them
viral solstice
bruh this one hurt to upgrade
near perfect damage stats
hadron gives sustained fire t3 hand-cannon reload speed and 8% specialists
feral verge
The work is complete
still hearth
Purge getting buffs.
silent trout
flurry on purg yes or no?
summer prairie
yes
summer prairie
it works
silent trout
with nexus right?
viral solstice
did u see that purg melk was selling me
t4 flurry t4 nexus
trynna tempt me
that SLUT
summer prairie
they definitely buffed melk again
viral solstice
olive ember
yeah alright
the ilsis or wte its called
fucking
lmb spam
and then if things seem to be too crowded back dodge and then special
humble star
bruh this one hurt to upgrade
Good thing they also just nerfed crucian roulette for the revolver
frigid briar
soulblaze ticks increase my headtaker stacks lmao
cyan notch
secret post patch buff to get u guys to trust melk then next week its back to normal
viral solstice
Good thing they also just nerfed crucian roulette for the revolver <:KEKW_ogryn:...
doesnt matter
revolver meta
gun psykers time is now
2 shot mauler with bodyshots
facts and logic
inland sand
okay so i live in the sea and my internet will take 4 days to DL this patch
cyan notch
ill use it when they double the ammo
inland sand
so Siblings
humble star
doesnt matter
Revolver OP. Pls cut other blessings in half too
inland sand
I need to live vicariously through u for a bit
viral solstice
wrong, u will use it when they HALVE the ammo
so they dont miss
u need to be disciplined
still hearth
Good but not great
summer prairie
@inland sand https://streamable.com/5qqlc1
cyan notch
conservative shooter blessing and ill use it
olive ember
the slashy FS is amazing idk what you mean
still hearth
Its no Power Sword but its close
limber silo
Any unique blessing for new FS?
olive ember
i'm sorry when was
humble star
how well does it slash
like the POWER sword's cousin with half the uptime
olive ember
"its no powersword" the fucking base line comparison lmao
olive ember
It feels like a fucking hsword ngl
inland sand
anyone try the new powersword?
olive ember
lmb spam and I was killing shit on heresy in like one two swings
and this was without slaughterer
inland sand
<@173829094557876225> https://streamable.com/5qqlc1
now that's some nice slashing
what about stabby force sword
hit me with that
olive ember
what about stabby force sword
I personally don't like it
its got some funny single target damage but
forest coral
new cleave sword is incredible
olive ember
thats all it has and I personally find the original FS doing that just fine
forest coral
its just a better heafvy sword with poweer cleave option
olive ember
^^ it really does feel like that
inland sand
do the new force swords have psy block?
olive ember
it was performing even as a grey unlike the hsword
potent echo
stabby sword does insane damage
olive ember
yes
olive ember
all the new FS share blessings
inland sand
yaaaaaaay!
limber silo
Pogpogpog
limber silo
Slaughterer Slashy FS here I come
olive ember
so yeah psyker has a hsword - powersword hybrid that can block bullets and equip slaughterer
olive ember
Eh more dmg overall I believe
viral solstice
headtaker on heavy swords is 75% power
viral solstice
yeah...
its why heavy swords are so dumb
and rampage
is 50% damage
so u run headtaker rampage for 50% damage 75
power
and before u ask, a heavy sword VI (the worst cleave option) with JUST headtaker 4 will kill 40 poxwalkers in 7 seconds
limber silo
slaughterer is just worse headtaker
Can you proc head taker w/ AB?
olive ember
viral solstice
ill show u the secret
olive ember
cuz the lmb on this is like 90 damage swing
still hearth
Heavy Sword does like 90 on lights
kind jay
hordesword is pretty good
viral solstice
heavy sword light attacks
kind jay
singlesword im still not sure yet
vapid wagon
this is new right? and i guess there is no way to turn it off?
viral solstice
do more damage than cleave heavies
fiery atlas
lmfao they actually made gunker viable
cyan notch
pretty nice with special but its still 2/6 cleave without special
olive ember
lmfao they actually made gunker viable
tbf it was viable last patch with the autopistol
fiery atlas
tbf it was viable last patch with the autopistol
yeah but now straight across it's viable
viral solstice
this is a heavy sword VI (the bad one) light attack
no activation required
u just mash that shit
fiery atlas
illisi + quell buff
olive ember
I mean for what its worth
cyan notch
filthy mashers
viral solstice
fiery atlas
olive ember
its basically a discount hsword with discount powersword combined
it can even cleave through armor with the special
so yeah looks like it'll be good against mixed hordes
fiery atlas
it can even cleave through armor with the special
yes i think special makes you ignore hit mass + deals weak spot dmg
summer prairie
with unstable power + special you've kind of infinite cleave
rancid spruce
Not gonna lie, beeing able to one shot shooters with a non-powered FS heavy feels good.
summer prairie
and slaughterer of course
viral solstice
u lot realise this is rashad meta tho
2-shot a reaper
all or nothing
get on the train
cyan notch
did they fix rashad?
cyan notch
summer prairie
limber silo
Only one slash, it really is heavy/power sword lite
viral solstice
tbh thats pretty sweg tho
forest coral
limber silo
Still, both are great weapons, so no complaints here
formal flume
Gotta love a good diet power sword
viral solstice
but its like
infinitely better than power sword
because power sword doesnt interact with vet kit at all
has boring ass blessings
and is the most boring moveset in the world
formal flume
Definitely
summer prairie
with warp absorption you get all your toughness back probably
forest coral
Its definitely stronger than a powersword without power cycler
formal flume
The other force sword is also pretty great in its own right, too
summer prairie
when you one-shot infinite poxwalkers
viral solstice
power sword being such a brainlet weapon is actually a bad thing
limber silo
Bloodthirsty Blazing Spirit seems pretty great with this sword
viral solstice
because it means they dont realise how boring it is
now this is what u all need to invest in get on the train
limber silo
Plus the new Wildfire seems like AB synergy will be great
rocky cedar
with warp absorption you get all your toughness back probably
Oh shit warp absorption that didn't even occur to me
summer prairie
This is pretty good with surge, I guess
olive ember
so what are the new FS movesets?
single target FS is shit, cleave FS is like an hsword and a powersword had a fucking kid
okay single target FS isn't "shit" its just not
rocky cedar
Single target FS doesn't seem that bad to me
rocky cedar
light -> heavy kills a lot of elite very fast
olive ember
maybe idk
trail tapir
okay single target FS isn't "shit" its just not
is it similar to a dueling sword?
ornate hamlet
Anyone know if the new force swords can get deflector blessing?
fiery atlas
LMFAO
deep oxide
Anyone know if the new force swords can get deflector blessing?
tis they do
fiery atlas
okay single target FS isn't "shit" its just not
ironically it has good horde clear capability in that it kills targets quickly + if you dodge spam it kinda works
rocky cedar
The thing I don't like about Deimos is that using the special attack barely even seems worth it
Like I think light heavy combo might be noticably better DPS
It's like they didn't up its special damage to match
cyan notch
the stab does a ton
viral solstice
the special isnt about dps
forest coral
single target fs feels worse than original fs
viral solstice
the thing about a special is that its a damage move u can do while not in range
kind jay
its meant for stunning things you want dead
forest coral
i dunno, the stab is nice i guess
viral solstice
and a stun
olive ember
Thank you redditors for saying that psyker was a dogshit class not even worth bringing to malice
thanks to you
viral solstice
its an option that is optimal in certain circumstances
olive ember
we got so many new toys
viral solstice
i mean thats not hhow they designed it
rocky cedar
I'm not saying you'd literally never special with Deimos
rocky cedar
Just kinda lacklustre damage increase over just using heavy stab
viral solstice
i can one shot a crusher with special on my obscurus
olive ember
@viral solstice btw can you check if the ilsis FS special stuns crushers and ragers
kind jay
yeah but special melts armor too
olive ember
well not stuns but staggers em
cyan notch
its fine i guess
rancid spruce
<@143474653497786368> btw can you check if the ilsis FS special stuns crushers a...
It does not.
fiery atlas
also lol what is this
rocky cedar
You should be able to effortlessly 2 light stab head shot a lot of elites with deimos
viral solstice
grey illisi special activated doesnt do shit
rocky cedar
Can link 2 light stabs very quick with block cancel
still hearth
also lol what is this
That's normal
rocky cedar
Should easily 2 shots gunners, shotgunners etc
plush sand
what perks are best with the purge staff in your guys opinion?
fiery atlas
its fine i guess
ngl exorcist seems redundant to have
plush sand
perks not blessings
still hearth
Uh
blazing trout
I really like the new single target FS
still hearth
Unyielding and Crit
still hearth
Only targets with big HP
Damage on Purge is stupid anyway
You barely get any increased TTK on most targets below 1k HP
fiery atlas
ye like half of specials and elites are unyielding
olive ember
the main one you want is crit i guess
plush sand
nice thanks all
inland sand
Focus Channeling doesn't feel amazing on Purg, but I'm keen to test it on Trauma
olive ember
idk even for the single target its like
"good luck hitting the fucking elite/special through a horde"
forest coral
deimos stab does like 2400 + damage to mutie face without warp charge
its pretty juicy
olive ember
its only use is for crushers or some shit
plush sand
Im thinking new deimos single target + purge will be nice
fiery atlas
idk even for the single target its like
it's a single target designed to be an elite/boss deleter
stone pulsar
wait....the new force swords have unlimited dodges?
olive ember
maybe I'll try it out on my purge staff
olive ember
wait....the new force swords have unlimited dodges?
they all do
still hearth
Force Swords all have that, yeah
fiery atlas
wait....the new force swords have unlimited dodges?
shhhhh they are listening
olive ember
original FS had unlimited dodges too
viral solstice
wait....the new force swords have unlimited dodges?
they are same weapon class so they will
wet belfry
They always had unlimited dodges
stone pulsar
ahhh. i never knew that
viral solstice
its ok
still hearth
Garbage
summer prairie
Are these mutant speed lines new
cyan notch
bought and favourited and trinketed and put into every wargear loadout
olive ember
or this LITERALLY perfect deimos
first target already makes it fucking trash
Ya know what
viral solstice
oprecog
summer prairie
These lines https://streamable.com/4rqgjv
fiery atlas
or this LITERALLY perfect deimos
oh i wish i had precog on my deimos 
olive ember
is slaughterer good on deimos even?
cuz you would need to have it out to actually gain stacks
blazing trout
The light and heavy stab do an incredible amount of damage, and the horde clear pattern isn’t that bad.
royal granite
how are the new force swords?
viral solstice
they always had speedlines syllo
olive ember
The light and heavy stab do an incredible amount of damage, and the horde clear ...
whats the horde clear combo again on deimos? it feels like eh
fiery atlas
is slaughterer good on deimos even?
obvs yes
summer prairie
I'm blind then
fiery atlas
you kill trash horde, press special and then delete
still hearth
Just burn them
blazing trout
Heavy into light, or push into light into heavy.
plush sand
thought on new Quicken, is it viable now?
still hearth
And then you get Slaught stacks
Quicken is worst option
But at least its an option
forest coral
how are the new force swords?
blaze is kinda insane
stone pulsar
2 warp charges per head pop
still hearth
Not useless
summer prairie
Quicken could be decent if you use it to quell with void I guess
royal granite
blaze is kinda insane
insane how?
forest coral
its a heavy sword with power up option which cleaves elites
viral solstice
Quicken could be decent if you use it to quell with void I guess
u can see it here
(old footage)
forest coral
its unpowered version just blends hordes with light attacks
royal granite
i see
summer prairie
oh yeah they were that clear even
royal granite
so we've been given a power sword?
olive ember
insane how?
deimos is single target but thats all it has, personally I think its mid but some people love it
Ilsis is like a psword and an hsword had a baby
forest coral
here's some action of it
olive ember
its not as broken as a psword tho, the special only lasts for one swipe
but as a trade off the uncharged attacks are alot better, like hsword levels of good
formal flume
Indeed
forest coral
its not as broken as a psword tho, the special only lasts for one swipe
its not but as a horde tool the uncharged is kinda insane
formal flume
The trade off is perfect acceptable
still hearth
So if you can stack similar levels then its definitely good
formal flume
or even gunkers
It sure pleases me plenty. Lol
weary idol
so do the new force swords innately block ranged attacks
viral solstice
Hsword attacks aren't even the reason its good
no i mean the base attacks are fucking incredible
like
the base stats on HS IX lights
are better than cleave heavies
minimum falloff is a helluva drug
olive ember
so do the new force swords innately block ranged attacks
nope
still like before you need deflector
viral solstice
if u compare those baseline lights to other weapon baselines u can see shits cracked as fuck
olive ember
Eh I mean
weary idol
I just brought a profane force sword into heresy and could block bullets
olive ember
I like having deflector cuz yeah
forest coral
well, ye.
olive ember
I just brought a profane force sword into heresy and could block bullets
that shouldn't be a thing but
I dont have the mod
forest coral
but this time its not like a thing u pull out to deal with elites
olive ember
anyone wanna test it out in meatgrinder?
olive ember
but this time its not like a thing u pull out to deal with elites
what perks would you put on a deimos tbh
summer prairie
tEST WHAT
royal granite
how are the buffs to the old force sword?
forest coral
slaughterer definitely
humble star
its a heavy sword with power up option which cleaves elites
How do the uncharged numbers compare to HS right now? Since I know HS gets the stupidly OP combo of Headtaker and rampage.
royal granite
i'm not convinced a single target force sword was needed when the old one was already overwhelmingly single target
humble star
It just seems like a dueling sword with worse movement and passive quell. maybe we will find some cool tech
cyan notch
royal granite
can the charged deimos at least oneshot damnation ogryn or something?
still hearth
But they changed passive quell now
summer prairie
It was showing wrong values
weary idol
can the charged deimos at least oneshot damnation ogryn or something?
2/3 of a crushers health when I tested it earlier
summer prairie
they also buffed active quell, might be a mistake
humble star
But they changed passive quell now
they did, and they also made sure it's still slightly better on non-force weapons too
weary idol
the real kicker is that it pens carapace even uncharged
kind jay
still hearth
Yeah, so muggle weapons are good again 
humble star
they also buffed active quell, might be a mistake
The age of Vet is over, the age of Psyker has come
vernal frost
do the new fs also have unlimited dodges?
summer prairie
yes
olive ember
How do the uncharged numbers compare to HS right now? Since I know HS gets the s...
base damage hsword about the same as illi
vernal frost
yesssss
olive ember
blessings wise
rocky cedar
Yeah, so muggle weapons are good again <:Shiva_ThumbsUp:787356084812906506>
It feels like they buffed non force melee quell but not guns
olive ember
illi gets slaughterer which is a more annoying version of headtaker
but honestly once it gets going there won't be a dif
we don't have rampage tho
but
eh
humble star
base damage hsword about the same as illi
so taking into account the blessings. Illi can't keep up without being charged
rocky cedar
That might be a good thing for force unleashed though
olive ember
so taking into account the blessings. Illi can't keep up without being charged
nope, but its charged mode lets it cleave through armor n shit
so all things considered not bad
tropic lagoon
How does the single target force sword work?
humble star
Rampage is still a huge buff, but true, HS is still much less maintenance tho
tropic lagoon
Is it cool?
olive ember
Rampage is still a huge buff, but true, HS is still much less maintenance tho
but let me ask you this
can the hsword block bullets
kek
remote flume
Are the new psyker swords any good? also did they change the moveset on the og force sword?
rocky cedar
How does the single target force sword work?
Light heavy or block cancel lights very good single target damage
orchid nest
one nice thing about the illisi charge is you can actually just spam it for peril for quietitude without having to qq cancel
spice veldt
illis is extremely good
round moth
How does the single target force sword work?
it seems to be focused on having better dodge modifiers (distance & speed) and it seems to be spam charged light as heavy is the same damage as old fs
remote flume
the new single target one isnt it the same as the og in terms of just for single targets?
forest coral
like forget it even said horde focused
this thing kills single target very efficinetly too
humble star
can the hsword *block bullets*
Only reason I would run the big D now is because bloodthirsty was nerfed
spice veldt
illis' special also deals more damage against unyielding
rocky cedar
one nice thing about the illisi charge is you can actually just spam it for peri...
Yeah but warp absorption though
spice veldt
it seems
olive ember
Are the new psyker swords any good? also did they change the moveset on the og f...
og one is basically the same, the illi is horde focused and rly good, basically a hsword and a powersword had a kid, the deimos is kinda niche but in what it does it seems to do well
humble star
or deflection blessing
royal granite
unhappy about having to farm up another deflection