Having good stagger, but bad dps means the weapon has a niche. If you want to nerf something, nerf the blessing
#psyker-class
void mural
kind jay
the problem with shredder is that pinning fire is bugged to give full stacks instantly
olive ember
The blessing itself ain't bugged, its the entire system!
void mural
I mean, isn't most of the game just one giant bug?
void mural
FS doesn't want to tell us what things actually do, mislabels tooltips constantly, has broken mechanics, mechanics working the opposite of intended, swapped buffs with wrong ones, has dumb things like zealots procing each other's abilities, and has things like engagement that just don't work as advertised half the time
leaden thunder
or mechanics that are like
the jankiest fucking thing ever
if you look into them
(rending)
void mural
That's part of what I was talking about
gilded viper
Found like bleed tick count as hit for shred
leaden thunder
yep
any dot counts for on hit blessings
skullcrusher, headtaker, maybe decimator
near wyvern
(rending)
Rending is not janky anymore, it does what it's supposed to do. The blessings that give rending / brittleness just need to have their values increased such that you can reach 100% rending to make it worth it.
leaden thunder
it's how it works if you look into it that is janky
becuase it's damage reduction reduction
near wyvern
Not anymore
near wyvern
Enemies have an armour modifier, this can be for example 0.1 for soulblaze against a crusher or for example 1.5 against flak with a weapon that has penetration
What rending does it modifies the damage of the original armour modifier to (100 - rending)/100 * armour_mod + rending/100 IF the armour mod is less than 1
It's nothing janky, it's straight up linear combination with armour modifier and base damage if the weapon is dealing less than base damage
wet jacinth
Thumb warrior
leaden thunder
that is still kinda mechanically jank to me, not in the code but just how it works is wierd,
wide tiger
imagine:
gilded viper
98% of blessing would be the in trash if we could double stack 
near wyvern
that is still kinda mechanically jank to me, not in the code but just how it wor...
In a nut shell it scales the armour modifier to be between the original and 1 based on your rending %. 0% is original, 50% is average of original and 1 and 100% is 1 a.k.a weapon base damage
viral solstice
yes
the problem is that u dont have a consistent armour damage modifier
eg most people would not expect crits
to have a diff armour damage modifier
which means that most players will not realise that the blessing "hand-cannon" gives basically no damage
under almost all circumstances
and its also relatively clear from the fact it exists this didnt occur to the designers either
and this is further janked by there being absolutely zero obvious distinction between say a weapon with 90% carapace and 110%
why does rending help one and not the other from a logical pov
basically once they let damage numbers go over 100 baseline for a shitload of weapons
stuff stops making intuitive sense eg flak ragers taking triple damage vs naked ragers from laspistol
in one sense the fact the calculation makes sense and is clamped is let down by both the context and the hidden modifiers to armour effectiveness that no player is going to expect
crits are the most obvious egregious example
viral solstice
but its cool tho so u should do it anyway
wide tiger
i heard precog riposte is cool cause you only need to do one with to double activate
wide tiger
tadpole?
viral solstice
probablement
gilded viper
Wait for crit don't get anything from rending?
viral solstice
much less than u would expect
wide tiger
now whenever i rev it treats enemies like ghosts
viral solstice
because crits get built in armour pen
this is why attacks with 0 damage to carapace will do some damage on crit
gilded viper
because crits get built in armour pen
wide tiger
they took that over from vt2
wide tiger
to vt2 players it was
gilded viper
To use gray weapons and turnoff my brain
wide tiger
the vermin
and now we're just in the dark
havent used the laspistol since i had a gray at level 5, emperor gave me this, trying it out:
alternate attack is super cool line push right
i think i'd prefer a flashlight but w/e
lethal folio
It's like a regular push but huge radius
wide tiger
at least i can generate peril with a ranged weapon
viral solstice
if u could rebuild the darktide armour system, u make all effectivenesses vs armour be under 100% or 100% max, boost base damage, and then if u need extra damage u wack it in from elsewhere. then u no longer need to crack open a table to figure out what the fuck rending is doing when it really should be "my gun make big fuckin hole in bad mammajammas"
wide tiger
stability seems to be a prob
viral solstice
o btw funniest thing about rending: every time they buff shit
how do they buff weapons
answer: they push the effectiveness vs an armour type up
frequently to over 100%
so rending is literally being made more and more irrelevant patch by patch
its beautiful
kind jay
just give @viral solstice force crab claws
sacred dome
Well I'll help u sibling
viral solstice
for non-crabs they should give psykers the power fish
sacred dome
-laughing in the warp w emperor-
wide tiger
im in a group with 3 vets with camo
leaden thunder
sacred dome
Ran 2 times w my psyker. Trying trauma staff on 4th diff. Last game camo ogryn and two camo vets. Shield ogryn.
sacred dome
It's like an extended rat ogre
wide tiger
okay so laspistol kinda sucks compared to shredder
saying that only after using the laspistol once but
idk maybe my stability is killing it for me
you basically have to crit to feel the damage on it
leaden thunder
something around there
gilded viper
Tbh not alot can compete with how broken shredder is rn
Good cc, good damage, Good horde deleter
wide tiger
my laspistol doesnt one shot a sniper in the head, so it makes me feel bad
wide tiger
i kinda wish dots could proc flayer
gilded viper
What that again
wide tiger
crit headshot from afar almost one shot them, the infernus put them to 6 health left
close headshot kills them
close headcrit rather
missing all those breakpoints man
gilded viper
Well I guess good thing the weapon fire fast I guess so not 1 shooting enemy's don't feel like the end of the world
wide tiger
feels like double the work to me :p
gilded viper
Now thinking about it I do have + flak and + crit so flak shooter I can reach it
wide tiger
yeah +flak might be the play
viral solstice
u should always run flak on laspistol tbh
its a flak deleter
and because its relatively high rof the return on that 25% damage is high
like ur getting shorter ttks or one -shots on crits in a bunch of situations ees nice
fringe garden
have they made any significant changes to psyker weapons in the last few weeks?
steel flame
your assuming there were updates in the last few weeks
fringe garden
I'm not really assuming anything
steel flame
then no they havent.
gilded viper
Tmw
gilded viper
Getting my bingo card out with a psyker nerf
steel flame
nextweek™️
gilded viper
To balance out the new weapon 
steel flame
yep
gilded viper
I'll be ok with it tbh if it happen, none of the psyker nerf felt that impactfuly for me atleast
Passive quelling have always been a "wow people really complaining about this" POV for me
Make using the 30% DR feat usable on non force weapons but then again I don't use stave that much so
sleek pebble
What were the nerfs? I haven't played much since launch
gilded viper
Passive quelling the same on all weapons and only get lower on warp reddit force staff+sword, ummmmmmmm what else was there
Deflector not working on rezing
Ummmm
Bb costing more peril it thunk but idk if that was beta > lanuch change
sleek pebble
So quell speed doesn't matter much?
gilded viper
On stave yeah but it no longer super fast on non force weapon
olive ember
non force weapons had 3x passive quell speed before
that was unintended apparently and now all weapons passive quell have been "normalized"
as in
they are all as slow as the FS now
sleek pebble
I only ever used force weapons so I never noticed lol...
olive ember
yeah
gilded viper
I'm I missing any more psyker nerf, legit feel like not much happen
cyan notch
Passive quelling the same on all weapons and only get lower on warp reddit force...
its not faster on fs
gilded viper
Oh
viral solstice
its not faster on fs
um yes it is dont u run t4 exorcist its called meta for a reason
smh ppl these days
sleek pebble
I can't tell if that's sarcasm
gilded viper
Isn't that rhe quelling on hs?
viral solstice
who uses force sword special lol its decorative u just pass it to the enemy and they injure themselves with it
sleek pebble
I just think quelling with your hands should be the fastest....
nocturne badge
any word on if they're fixing warp nexus in the coming patch?
sleek pebble
Fixing?
viral solstice
its been reported several times
wide tiger
when your pubs charge into shooters and just get lit up
gilded viper
Oh and that been broken since lanuch but it fat shark so 
viral solstice
if its a simple fix from their pov i imagine it will be
but they might want to coordinate the peril level stuff or overhaul it properly
so who knows
sleek pebble
What is this? 👀
wide tiger
the shortest run hi5 ever
gilded viper
First time seeing 200
wide tiger
its easy when your whole team is dead the entire run
sleek pebble
Are there mods for darktide already?
sleek pebble
Good to know thanks
gilded viper
Fs give modding the greenlight
As long as we don't cheat + bully people with it
Which is common sense
wide tiger
I do both
sleek pebble
If it did it'd be best to use?
leaden thunder
it works on void and trauma iirc
gilded viper
Think so from my understanding
sleek pebble
No surge?
gilded viper
I'm a noob with staves
sleek pebble
Who isnt?
cyan notch
i like flurry and channeling for purg
gilded viper
Purge really lacks any meaningful choices beyond nexus and flurry.
Isn't the suppression one a decent pick?
steel flame
i like flurry and channeling for purg
come over here real quick so i can channel your face into the groundf
olive ember
Purge really lacks any meaningful choices beyond nexus and flurry.
you don't run flurry on purge
gilded viper
I’m pretty sure the cloud radius already gives suppresion
nocturne badge
So what is wrong with warp nexus?
the 3rd and 4th stack of warp nexus don't get applied until like 97% peril (might not be the exact number)
wide tiger
that is exactly it
olive ember
More specifically the stack thresholds are 30/50/97/97
wide tiger
its weird tho
nocturne badge
i remembered it being something like 96-98
wide tiger
showbuffs mod doesnt give me a stack till 50
gilded viper
More specifically the stack thresholds are 30/50/97/97
Math is hard
olive ember
when it should be 30/50/70/97
nocturne badge
showbuffs is a little iffy
wide tiger
is it? its been pretty good for me
olive ember
is it? it should be 30/50 atleast thats what was shown in code unless I misremembered
leaden thunder
I think the game is a little iffy
gilded viper
It kinda lie sometimes or don't count the first stack correctly
wide tiger
is it? it should be 30/50 atleast thats what was shown in code unless I misremem...
thats what i read too
lethal folio
Show buffs doesn't show the difference between 1 stack and simply active.
It also gets stuck if you land on 2 stacks.
leaden thunder
I notice a lot of the normal buffs get stuck at two
marytrdom does at least
*sometimes
lethal folio
It's a general buff display issue.
Something Modders are going to have to fix for Fatshark as usual.
leaden thunder
kind jay
why do i always get abandoned during hordes? is it cause i said i like nurgle?
you can really feel that psyker life
kind jay
never said i died
forest coral
gotta keep effort to move with team when possible 
wide tiger
you can really feel that psyker life
yep
Well to be fair i do that a lot
and then they cry when bulwarks come and get them, and i ask them to help loot
forest coral
Oh ye itll always happen
sometimes if i can save them or not comes down to if they are close enough to shout the horde or dog off them 
if it has to be through a wall, then so be it
wide tiger
😒
kind jay
idk man my pug e xperience has been really strange
the amountof times in t5 people didnt bring anti armor
i dount event know
forest coral
i unno, most classes have decent anti armor to a certain degree
but whether they know how to use it properly is diff story
any vet with a powersword should be able to comfortably 1v1 crushers and bulwakrs in melee
or tacaxe/ antax
wide tiger
I use devil's claw cause crab told me if I didnt i wasnt cool
forest coral
ogryns kinda rek the bad ogryns
zealots charge literally tone down armor by one tier so u can gun down crushers no issue + cracked melee options
devils claw is weaker than unpowered power sword moment
olive rampart
Any tips for a noob psyker? Just picked up the game and wanted to know everyone’s thoughts and best practices early on.
steel flame
Leveling up will suck
kind jay
if you want to keep your warp charge stacks easily, hold right click on brain burst til its full, then left click to insta kill trash
twilit flicker
you can right click to charge up brain burst and get the jump on spawning specials, it also helps avoid getting your bb stolen as you can just move on to another target
steel flame
It will get better at 30
fringe tangle
I wish the staff blessings were more interesting, many of them are garbage.
forest coral
Psykers have very good stamina regen, push attacks are decent on this class
Maintaining max warp stacks will give good damage boost but don't focus on that over dealing with stuff thats directly putting ur team in danger
kind jay
if you hit 100%+ peril (youre spazzing out about to die) you can use your ultimate to cancel it out
forest coral
Stacking hp curios is a very safe way to stay alive especailly in levelling
sleek pebble
Are wounds and hp curios the way to go?
forest coral
brain bursting can be tagged and finished as u duck in and out of cover
kind jay
its preference
forest coral
wounds are up to your comfort level
generally HP does the most for this class in my experience
kind jay
health for chip damage, toughness for ranged damage, wound if you want a safety net
twilit flicker
be careful with staves, if you reach 100% peril and do anything with them you will blow up, unless you use the burst skill or a miracle quell happens from Battle Meditation
forest coral
97% warp usage you will go kaboom
under that, you can still pull cast off to 100% and be ok
also as a psyker, generally you are expected to deal with specialists from range and armor units with brain bursts if your team doesnt have another player who is built for it
BB might seem bad as a skill at first, but it's incredibly useful
also your F skill can go through walls
if another player gets trapped by a dog in another room that isnt too far away, just shout in their direction
its also a wide cone
fringe tangle
Like some GOOD staff blessing ideas would stuff like this (level 4 versions only)
POP!: Staff attacks have a 2.5% chance to brainburst any enemy hit by it.
Soul Blast: When you release a fully charged attack a large wave of warp energy is sent out in a 6 meter radius, putting 2 stacks of soulblaze on hit enemies, as well as knocking common enemies to the ground.
But yeah there's 2 staff blessings would be more fun to use then what we have atm.
cyan notch
u can charge staves at 100% but after u fire your volley youll start the blow up animation
olive ember
Any tips for a noob psyker? Just picked up the game and wanted to know everyone’...
leveling sucks, at 30 you need to invest in the class to get gud at it
prepare for all the jank
left briar
how's surge on voidstrike?
long wharf
kind of lackluster
you have to really lean into critting in order to rely on the extra damage surge gives
long wharf
which means needing warp nexus and not having transfer peril
if void had a higher base crit chance to make it more reliable, I could see it being a somewhat decent dps combo
but transfer peril is the best blessing for void, hands down, and not having that means you're generally better off just using something else
cyan notch
oh it's only on primary?
no it works on secondary too
void mural
Wait, did they stealth nerf surgical?
wide tiger
it was actually always that bad, they updated the tooltip
void mural
omfg
void mural
that's a fucking awful blessing
wide tiger
suuuure is
void mural
like... if it were 25% crit per stack or something, it MIGHT be useful?
gilded viper
Nah Honesty stack just shouldn't drop
void mural
man... I'm just impressed with how good FS is at making terrible blessings
gilded viper
It the same company that make the scale with stamina and scale with peril two diff blessing somehow
void mural
Nah Honesty stack just shouldn't drop
I agree, but if they want to keep the gimmick, then it should at least get to 100% crit in a reasonable amount of time
it really is amazing how shit most blessings are outside of few crazy OP ones
gilded viper
Because we have 3 type of blessing , niche QOL (deflector and speedloader), straight up bad and op BIS
tough trail
wait keemo didnt you say you still ghavent finished going out with a bang?
forest coral
ye i havent lmao
gilded viper
The power % one is always weird when u see blessing be like 5% and being able to get 15% per stack (max 5) on the same weapon
forest coral
then again havent been actively trying to kill myself
void mural
Because we have 3 type of blessing , niche QOL (deflector and speedloader), stra...
Well, I can understand lesser blessings that aren't straight damage ones like the op ones, but there's ones that are just like... how could you have possibly ever have thought this was "good"?
tough trail
Want me to tell you how I did it because it's actually not that involved
forest coral
or the times i sort of went for it, it didnt do enough damage cause im usually playing damnation lmao
tough trail
Like I found a way to do it while passively play a mission
gilded viper
Well, I can understand lesser blessings that aren't straight damage ones like th...
I wish I can understand their logic
void mural
They truly don't understand that if something has a requirement for a buff, it needs to be have a relatively decent payoff for activating it, not absolute shit 5%, or ridiculous 75% for an easy activation like killing
gilded viper
Yeah kinds crazy the easiest blessing is the best one
One for the revolver got me wondering, the 20% crit chance on melee kills, seeing the time to switch and shoot before the buff is gone is like 2.5sec
Might be the best award for requirement blessing for crit revolver but man is it dumb that it a weapon swal gimmick
kind jay
the spaghet is so bad i can almost hear the anthem warp
steel flame
milks had enough of my shit talking
gilded viper
This gsme is like the weirdest gsme I played in a long time, feel like the coding and writer for tool tips was sleeping on the job and being done by too many people who don't know what happening at their job
kind jay
milk got fired for keeping all the t4 blessings to himself
steel flame
i dont even have mystery aquistions
gilded viper
What time est should he be back?
steel flame
i think i have to restart XP
kind jay
hes disabled
nah
hes gone until patch
so whenever that is. sometime tomorrow
probably in the afternoon who knows
kind jay
youll take your dueling sword and youll like it
safe crystal
You mean the catachan, right?
left briar
you'll take your
steel flame
Hello convicts, we've decided that psyker is too far outside our vision for the class so all melee weapons other than the Catachan swords have been givin to the veteren
gilded viper
Inb4 they pull a "we heard u guys don't like guns on psyker so we remove them from their kit"
I'll died
left briar
i'll die die
left briar
what's the duration on bloodthirsty?
kind jay
well i finally got it
nice!
feral verge
5 seconds
safe crystal
Its 5 seconds for roughly 16 more hours, before they 'fix' it
left briar
i guess i'll die die
gilded viper
Will they actually fix it or are we meming
steel flame
Will they actually fix it or are we meming
blazing trout
What is the ideal trauma staff. Which perks?
Blessings are pretty self evident I feel
feral verge
flak and unarmored perks
wide tiger
Damn this is the best melk i've ever had.
feral verge
rending shockwave and warp flurry blessings
void mural
omfg... this game is such ass sometimes!
Sneak around a DH, the bot aggros it, kills bot, and we kill DH.
Second DH in the mission we can't even see because it spawns in the middle of a group of enemies and gets aggroed when we shoot the enemies, killing a player and the bot again.
The next horde comes before they reach us to rescue us and our zealot goes down. Psyker goes to rez him while dodging a sniper and the instant he gets rezed, he gets killed instantly by the sniper because FS made the stupid decision to not give players I-frames when rezed and they don't even have control of their character yet.
Psyker makes a heroic push towards our rescue before getting a triple tox flamer spawn, each from a different direction, leaving him literally nowhere to dodge the flames.
All this in one damn mission. Fuck you game
literally the only thing that we were in control of in that mission was mayyyybe the psyker dodging the tox flamers better?
gilded viper
left briar
i hate trauma staff psykers sometimes, they just knock back the horde so we cant kill them as fast
why voidstaff is better in that regard at least
gilded viper
More like knocking the horde for some to be behind u 
forest coral
iframes when rezzing?
left briar
is milk dead?
still pelican
okay, so, I'm playing with a void staff... what's the best way to take out an assasination target?
forest coral
melee
void strike damage is awful vs unyielding
bb when the shield is out is ok from range but its still much lower compared to most melee options smacking boss
wide tiger
why voidstaff is better in that regard at least
voidstrike also knocks down enemies at high charge
clear heath
okay, so, I'm playing with a void staff... what's the best way to take out an as...
hit it with your sword or whatever
wide tiger
yeah melee and dodge out at 1;/3 shield
steel flame
is milk dead?
hes closed till the update
clear heath
assassination target's shield takes way more damage from melee than anything else
so just smack
forest coral
Use kinetic deflection if you want to be the one holding/ kiting boss aggro
rapier and knife are really good for doing that
void mural
we really gonna get mad at the last dude standing?
Huh? My point was that the entire sequence of events was the game's fault because of busted mechanics, and that only 1 thing was something we could have actively avoided as players. I wasn't ragging on the psyker
void mural
iframes when rezzing?
Invincibility frames. Being invulnerable till you at least have control of your character again
Because you can die before being able to actually do anything when being pick up by an ally
Seen and experienced it 3 times over the past 3 days
gilded viper
My favorite is being rez into a crusher overhead
Shit like that make me want to run wounds again
void mural
yeah, for real, absolute shit game mechanics, and it's one of those things that make me wonder wtf were they thinking changing it
Invulnerability during rez was in the previous 2 games, and it did its job fine
kind jay
Huh? My point was that the entire sequence of events was the game's fault becaus...
i was just memeing it's cool
void mural
ah
ornate hamlet
My favorite is being rez into a crusher overhead
Me on Tide of Vermin Two
Homies res me in the middle of elites with no invisibility
gilded viper
Idk what worse crusher or getting snipe
Or guessing rez in a bomber flames
Getting*
void mural
sniped, because at least getting rezzed into a crusher overhead is obvious and not RNG like sniper
and flames you at least have a chance of getting out
restive slate
So in a way, we ran out of Melk
kind jay
Daddy Nurgle went to the store to get Melk and cigarettes
kind jay
golden tartan
Idk what worse crusher or getting snipe
Shotguns
cold geode
Went missing in 82? Wow
spice veldt
crushers at least give you a year to react, and snipers just sucker punch you
restive slate
When snipers laser lines are blocked by hordes so that they snipe you immediately by surprise once they have line of sight
wide tiger
Free bathroom break!
restive slate
Then an Ogryn comes in with Revive Ally curios
rose lily
i can't remember which blessings are best for the purg staff
which ones? / which ones actually work?
forest coral
my fav is getting shot by sniper in the back without any visual or speech cue
those ones are like, "thanks game, very cool"
olive ember
When snipers laser lines are blocked by hordes so that they snipe you immediatel...
simply dodge based off sound
they make a noise right before they shoot duh
spice veldt
the interval between the noise they make and when they actually shoot is shorter than my god damn reaction time
pale matrix
I'll bet a live goat that psyker gets nerfed on tomorrows patch
spice veldt
the only chance I have of dodging them is to see their laser beforehand
i'm mildly optimistic that we'll remain the same; maybe they'll nerf purgatus and bloodthirsty but that's about it
olive ember
the interval between the noise they make and when they actually shoot is shorter...
simply get better
you must hone your mind
spice veldt
trim the neurons in my brain
forest coral
"in order to bring volley fire in line with abilities such as ascendant blaze, we have decided to increase the cooldown of ascendant blaze to 180 seconds"
spice veldt
kinetic barrage now consumes warp charges
olive ember
"we have heard that flamer is overtuned, as such we have decided to make it not longer deal damage to crushers and the like by taking the flamer away from zealot and giving it to vet"
kind jay
kinetic barrage now consumes warp charges
useful when they make it so gaining more than max warp charges causes immediate peril boomboom. also it doesn't hurt enemies anymore and now has friendly fire
gilded viper
kinetic barrage now consumes warp charges
ill kill u if that become real
olive ember
ill kill u if that become real
It's fine we'll all just be AB gamers now
forest coral
We feel the current stamina regeneration is currently unrealistic towards the mage archetype. Therefore we are now reducing the rate of regeneration to be more in line with veteran
olive ember
until they nerf that too
The mage archetype is too tanky in general, both kinetic deflection and kinetic shield have been removed and will be subsequently reworked and readded at a later date (never)
kind jay
psykers have a chance at critical peril to turn into a daemonhost
by chance i obviously mean 100%
cyan notch
versus in darktide came earlier than versus in vt2
forest coral
Can you imagine, player controlled daemonhost
Mic gonna be like, "DON'T DO IT BRO, STOP GRIEFING"
kind jay
i would personally target anyone that isn't an oggy, or a witch, or i guess a shouty. yeah
cold geode
Daemon hosts will now instantly teleport to the psyker when aggroed by any party members.
spice veldt
maybe this where the MKV duelling sword will come in handy to tank daemonhosts
forest coral
<@&735928989146939404>
shut matrix
Dude is posting it in every channel
sleek pebble
Send him into space
near bluff
thx
pale sky
Yeeted 👍
shut matrix
Danke
forest coral
Into the blender it goes
olive ember
damn I missed somethin funny?
grizzled jasper
Just a bot spamming invites
cold geode
Ahh
rose lily
i can't remember which blessings are best for the purg staff
which ones? / which ones actually work?
forest coral
nexus and... i think flurry was bugged one?
i think atm its like nexus/ preference until flurry is fixed or other way around
rose lily
nexus and... i think flurry was bugged one?
mmm i think it's only nexus that works currently
spice veldt
nexus semi-works; just gives you 2 stacks most of the time
forest coral
ye
olive ember
i can't remember which blessings are best for the purg staff
which ones? / which...
nexus/terrifying barrage for true meta, but honestly 2nd blessing is mostly just preference
rose lily
nexus/terrifying barrage for true meta, but honestly 2nd blessing is mostly just...
if the purpose of terrifying barrage is to suppress / CC hordes and specials then doesn't the purg already do that?
olive ember
The built in suppression on purge is pretty bad so terrifying barrage makes it consistent and not shit
The other two blessings are practically useless since run n gun only applies to lmb and even then there’s a delay between sprinting and actually casting iirc which makes it useless, and focused channeling is a QoL that’s only useful if you find yourself getting staggered a lot by either being melee hit often or toughness broken via shooters, which personally I find shouldn’t be happening that often anyways
wide tiger
Anyone know vet shovels well?
olive ember
not that good iirc
better than claw tho
decimator + thrust are the blessings I think?
wide tiger
Oh yeah? sweet
I wasnt sure if it was deci thrust or if it was
deci skullcrusher
or if it had bromo
olive ember
No clue
no BM
so yeah
looking at it take your pick of skullcrusher, thrust, decimator I suppose
wide tiger
prob thrust deci
hard to go wrong
at least its 5 stack deci
I mean decent blessings
Im preparing for the inevitable psword nerf
fluid cove
I'm anticipating a bromo nerf akin to the Barkskin cooldown. Can't proc until the effect fades.
olive ember
oh not when effect ends
but yeah theres already a built in CD kek
We'll see I'm getting some extra cash on my zealot rn in anticipation to having to get new weapons
rocky cedar
We excited for patch in 4-5 hours?
rocky cedar
Sadly I'm snowed under with work tonight so probably not gonna get much time with it for a couple of days
spice veldt
(and I kind of hope that one of the unmentioned weapons is a psyker staff)
rocky cedar
I'll be watching here to see what peoples' opinions on the weapons n shit are
grizzled jasper
I’m keeping my expectations low
olive ember
I have class tmrw
the question is
do I want to stay awake in class or not
fuck I have an assignment due tmrw too
eh wte
wide tiger
I'm expecting psword and vet nerf
flamer nerf
maybe some sorta recon buff
psyker nerf ofc
wide tiger
Maybe slaughterer/pinning fire nerf who knows
grizzled jasper
I can see nerfing power
ashen pilot
Fs noticed ppl having fun with gun psyker
Each shot from the gun scares the psyker causing peril to increase
grizzled jasper
But I rather they buff other blessings
olive ember
I mean I feel like zealot armor strip might be a nerf
it's never stated in the ability description and therefore its up to contention whether armor strip was an intended mechanic
grizzled jasper
It’s really hard to say what fs gonna do cause it’s obvious they don’t play darktide
olive ember
Each shot from the gun scares the psyker causing peril to increase
each psyker personality now has a quirk: Seer's get their "dream" disrupted by gunshots and they gain peril from getting shot. Loner psykers are loners and gain peril whenever near other players. Savant psyker's constantly gain peril when near melee enemies cuz they are reminded that they aren't obeying the lex atoma REEEE
ashen pilot
Pskyer in the next update will be the first and only class that can be hit from friendly fire
olive ember
I can't wait for the zealot RP'ers
forest coral
grizzled jasper
The ones where they keep calling you freaks
wide tiger
as long as I can peril of the warp ohko my team mates back im cool with it
rose lily
The built in suppression on purge is pretty bad so terrifying barrage makes it c...
how long does the suppression last for once there's a kill within a given range?
olive ember
how long does the suppression last for once there's a kill within a given range?
that I'm not sure about since I'm not a purge staff main
would have to ask someone more well versed
but the idea is that the other two perks are kinda not that useful 90% of the time, terrifying barrage will atleast provide some added CC whenever you kill something
also helps with covering flanks etc.
since you won't be flaming everything at the same time
rose lily
but the idea is that the other two perks are kinda not that useful 90% of the ti...
true, but i guess once they fix warp flurry that's a big boost for peril economy
spice veldt
free money
wide tiger
i mean purg charges so fast its almost not needed
if they ever add more blessings its the first to go
soulblaze away when
rose lily
that I'm not sure about since I'm not a purge staff main
alright everyone - who can help us with this query?
how long does the terrifying barrage suppression last for once there's a kill within a given range?
olive ember
oh yeah once flurry is fixed it would be nexus + flurry but
until that happens
terrifying barrage is the next best option
kind jay
i dont know exact mechanics but i have seen suppression work for at least 2-3 secs
rose lily
oh yeah once flurry is fixed it would be nexus + flurry but
i thought you said that warp flurry can't be as effective as tbarrage
wide tiger
Don't think he said that
near wyvern
Terrifying barrage doesn't add a lot to the table. Void and Purge both already supress with their spells and trauma supresses with LMB and staggers with RMB which overrides the supression by terrifying barrage.
olive ember
its still better than the alternatives rn sadly
near wyvern
im a good varlet
Does it do 150 or more infested with light heads?
near wyvern
Yes then that works
vestal raven
swaggin
How does crit hit damage affect flame staff? Improves the stack applied
?
Asking because of this
wide tiger
It does nothing
Literally
Crits work diff on purg
Does no extra damage just applies 2 stacks of soulblaze
vestal raven
damn
spice veldt
criticals seem to deal extra damage just looking at their damage table, but the increase is so pitifully small
weakspot and critical dmg are infamously terrible because of how they factor into the calculation
wide tiger
When I tested they were identical but maybe not enough margin to round up
I can test again on a crusher
Since crits typically get armor pen you would assume that's where you'd see it most
vestal raven
But u still want those blessings correct?
wide tiger
Yep
vestal raven
okay
spice veldt
with the caveat that flurry is slightly bugged because it adds a small delay between your cast where your secondaries don't charge
vestal raven
Which perks would u want? i figure unarmored is one of them
vestal raven
with the caveat that flurry is slightly bugged because it adds a small delay bet...
noticed that a few times
spice veldt
here's hoping that they fix it in a few hours from now
interestingly enough, unarmoured isn't too necessary on purg because Soulblaze does 2x damage to Unarmoured
no wait
i got flak and unarmoured mixed up
wide tiger
Which perks would u want? i figure unarmored is one of them
I like flak and unarmored personally
But I like trash to burn fast
Could prob do unyielding and be like flamers little sister
But nah
spice veldt
or maniac for dreg ragers
vestal raven
Using bb instead is normally what i do
spice veldt
vestal raven
oh wow
wide tiger
Maniac isn't terrible
vestal raven
flak is doomed
spice veldt
yup
wide tiger
I mean, the Golden 3 are flak unarmored and maniac most of the time
gilded viper
Help I can't sleep cause I'm too excited for the update 
ashen pilot
Take a long nap : )
potent echo
Update dropping soonTM?
gilded viper
potent echo
How do we know this 
gilded viper
How it worded would lead u to believe once it back the update is out
And was confirmed to be tomorrow (today I guess since it 2 fucking am rn)
potent echo
Understandable
gilded viper
I have a exam in at 12
spice veldt
skill issue to not live in PST
gilded viper
I just can't sleep rn
gilded viper
Ah night shift, I miss those time
Then my store say fuck night shift and now I'm a morning person...I hate it sometimes
fiery atlas
<:AShawke_smile:997445569670815804>
me when i pull out dueling sword only to realize it gets nerfed for no reason
gilded viper
Is it 3am, I try doing the timezone thiny and it show 4am est for me...unless I did it wrong
steel flame
Ugh
I don't get home till 7
On the bright side I won't have to wait for the update
forest coral
me when i pull out dueling sword only to realize it gets nerfed for no reason
Don’t jinx it 😭
spice veldt
1 cleave on normals at most now
make it 0.1 so that if it ever gets power blessings, it has no hope of ever cleaving more than 1 enemy
gilded viper
Rampage going into the trash
rose lily
i gotta wait 3 and a half hours for update?
are you west coast time?
vestal raven
workable or burn is too low
fiery atlas
no i'm cst
forest coral
Burn is on the low side gossip
Aim for 76% for max effect
But it’s workable if that’s what u asking
vestal raven
gotcha
potent echo
You get 1 less max stack but you rarely are going to reach max stacks anyway
vestal raven
lame
potent echo
Sounds like he only ever plays one build
potent echo
There were/are people who believe that you cant clear damnation without gryn
forest coral
Kek
kind jay
well you cant. at least, not joyfully
potent echo
wouldn't class limits benefit people who play all 4 classes
More like that person would believe that each class only has one role
gilded viper
While psyker fit all the roles the gsme can throw at it
steel flame
Personally I don't need my class to be dictated for me by someone that doesn't understand how flexible classes are
forest coral
That’s the same energy as some shieldgryn who joined my damnation lobby and said he was gonna tank
olive ember
wouldn't class limits benefit people who play all 4 classes
I mean I would assume its like VT where my lvl 30 psyker can swap between any of the subclasses that show up
forest coral
And true to his word, he stood in the open with his shield down
gilded viper
Maybe not Frontline tho but haha Fite staff go brrr
forest coral
And didn’t do much
lucid terrace
While psyker fit all the roles the gsme can throw at it
It’s like psyker is the best class to ever exist, ever 
olive ember
Somebody on Reddit wants class limits xP
wooo gimme that link
fleet bear
honestly psyker with autopistol is the most all-rounder ive seen in this game
steel flame
wooo gimme that link
potent echo
And true to his word, he stood in the open with his shield down
Tank with his body 
gilded viper
It’s like psyker is the best class to ever exist, ever <a:bussin:960241456872829...
Shhh, don't say they they might nerf us
potent echo
0 votes lmao
gilded viper
Class weak right guys
lucid terrace
I won’t be silent 
fleet bear
honestly feel like staffs need buffs tho
wide tiger
only 2 hrs
olive ember
what they need is a specially designed raid with 8 people where each class can only do one thing and then we can have class queue slots
like mmo's
kek
lucid terrace
They shall know, and if they dare try to nerf psyker, then they will face an unrelenting terror upon Sweden
olive ember
honestly feel like staffs need buffs tho
nerf voidstrike buff Surge balanced
breh
I mean
he ain't too far off
fleet bear
huh is void actually good cause in my experience it was the shittest one
potent echo
Void is good if you don't go to the desert map
gilded viper
No lie that how I felt when I play gun psyker before mods
Ngl low key thought I was trolling for a while then I realize it not that bad as people say
olive ember
depends on who you ask
some people think void is the strongest
other people think its purge
I just use surge which everyone shits on
😦
gilded viper
I want to say void cause void can't blind me
potent echo
A few months ago ppl were saying surge or go broke
gilded viper
Fuck blue flames
lucid terrace
Trauma is the best
lucid terrace
It go boom and limbs go everywhere
olive ember
A few months ago ppl were saying surge or go broke
oh yeah
but now everyone is like "surge can't kill anything, it only hits 5 enemies, its rly bad"
and yeah
meta changes I suppose as player skill changes
fleet bear
surge can have some dps buff for sure
olive ember
some people just don't think the CC is worth the tradeoff from dmg
potent echo
Surge should be a channel 🤔
fleet bear
yea i mean killing is the best CC anyway
kind jay
and then the party wipes
gilded viper
Just use melee
kind jay
adn suddenly "i wish surge was here"
fleet bear
your party wont wipe if you kill fast enough lmao
olive ember
but the truth is literally every staff is good, and I mean good good not viable good
so yeah
lucid terrace
Fun is all that matters.
potent echo
I tried brumo tactical axe yesterday it was amazing
gilded viper
but the truth is literally every staff is good, and I mean *good* good not viabl...
So use gun?
potent echo
Goodbye duellingsword
olive ember
psyker has imo 5 "meta" builds, once for each staff + one for gun psyker
fleet bear
gun psyker is anti fun so i wish staffs were better
spice veldt
mk4 TAxe is quite good with BruMo because of the diagonal lights
potent echo
Is gun psyker anti fun?
spice veldt
and the lights don't have a damage cleave cap like the heavies do
forest coral
Tac axe 7 pretty good too
potent echo
The autopistol one is cool
gilded viper
Vet is a fat boi with slow stamina
olive ember
I mean if we complain enough then sure we might get buff
gilded viper
Vet > psyker
potent echo
I had a tac7 that had brumo so I gave it a go since people were praising it, they weren't wrong it's amazing
olive ember
gotta convince reddit that psyker needs buff tho
lucid terrace
Psyker + Recon lasgun = Blocked, votekicked, and reported
fleet bear
yea i thought people were joking with autopistol but it was not
gilded viper
Psyker + Recon lasgun = Blocked, votekicked, and reported
Damn
olive ember
which is kinda weird cuz most of the people asking for psyker buffs treat psyker like a fucking completely useless class that can't beat malice
potent echo
Telepots the man
gilded viper
It good trust me bro
olive ember
and obviously those posts get no support
fleet bear
kinda harder for psyker to clutch compared to other classes hence the reputation i guess
gilded viper
which is kinda weird cuz most of the people asking for psyker buffs treat psyker...
Make my mind break reading post like that
spice veldt
eh, psyker can clutch fine
potent echo
Issue is who on reddit even plays damnation or heresy lol
spice veldt
just make sure to pick a weapon that's good at clutching
olive ember
but its a bit harder to explain to people who are in malice or some shit how psyker is good and can perform, but compared to every other class is still generally weaker
spice veldt
it depends on the weapon, just like the other classes
lucid terrace
which is kinda weird cuz most of the people asking for psyker buffs treat psyker...
Can go for zealot too from what I’ve seen.
spice veldt
some weapons are easier to clutch with (Purg, Trauma)
gilded viper
Feel like vet is the worse at clutching compare to the rest of the class
forest coral
I think vet is the worst clutcher to be honest
olive ember
Issue is who on reddit even plays damnation or heresy lol
I wondered that so yeah so I made the post
forest coral
They usually fold in mix hordes once armor comes in
fleet bear
vet is ez clutch
steel flame
which is kinda weird cuz most of the people asking for psyker buffs treat psyker...
All those people are asking for buffs while everyone that plays psyker is praying not to get nerfed
fleet bear
just throw 2 nades
gilded viper
Should be the current guy going by darktideexpert
potent echo
I wondered that so yeah so I made the post
Wait you made it
gilded viper
Making the most unhinged post rn
lucid terrace
Yknow, if they just gave psyker force greatsword, no one would be complaining SMH
potent echo
just throw 2 nades
Yea lmao grenades are such get out of jail free tools
forest coral
Nades don’t really save runs tho
olive ember
Wait you made it <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Idk wat you talking about
olive ember
Making the most unhinged post rn
link it thx thx i'll be first upvote kek
also reddit has no sense of humor smh I have 0 upvotes
when all I asked was for damnation tips
forest coral
Well solo clutching if someone just went down, maybe
olive ember
and linked a build I was gonna use
fleet bear
yup, nades are the easiest panic button
lucid terrace
Fuck vet grenades
gilded viper
link it thx thx i'll be first upvote kek
lucid terrace
Zealot grenades are the actual bomb
spice veldt
psyker being able to lob grenades repeatedly (Trauma)
steel flame
I wondered that so yeah so I made the post
Lol some of those comments are truly works of art
fleet bear
its restricted to weapon while vet nades are not is the difference i guess
olive ember
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11z3asf/which_would_you_choose/?utm_s...
I mean ngl if we actually got phat content I would go for option 2
but in a perfect world it would be communication AND content so
yeah
kek
lucid terrace
psyker being able to lob grenades repeatedly (Trauma)
“Grenades are so… uncivilized.”
Says my loner psyker, as I use warp flurry and trauma to destroy entire hordes
olive ember
Lol some of those comments are truly works of art
some people ruined the fun and called me out like immediately
like no fun allowed
smh
gilded viper
kek
True but check his profile, been making alot of post about complaining about no content in 4 month
potent echo
You need the alt's alt
gilded viper
Yeah 100%
gilded viper
Yeah it betterdarktideexpert
gilded viper
I wish they fucking fall over when I force push them
They just shrug it off and blast my face open
olive ember
lmao this is why you have to strafe behind em
use those infinite dodges
also spam force pushes
constantly
well not the force push
the force stun
spice veldt
melee pushes will stagger them unless your cardio is weak af
kind jay
they have better aim than snipers too
spice veldt
I don't recommend running into 5 shotgunners though
I tried that once and it didn't work out too well
olive ember
they have better aim than snipers too
its different timing, when they flash they lock on like a second after
where as when a sniper flashes it basically instantly locks on and shoots
wide tiger
I don't recommend running into 5 shotgunners though
thats how i got going out with a bang
kind jay
i mean how they can shotgun your ass from 2 rooms away
and somehow still perfectly aimbot your face
like the vet put a "shoot me" sign on my back
spice veldt
camo vets be like
lucid terrace
I don't recommend running into 5 shotgunners though
olive ember
I just treat shotgunners as slightly less dangerous but more tanky snipers
olive ember
LMAO
potent echo
Ragers still haven't unmuted their gamer mics yet
steel flame
LMAO
Lol I loved that one comment on your thread: gun psyker bad, take ammo away for classes that actually need it 
wide tiger
How dare psykers take ammo from the vets who have a passive +50% ammo pool
steel flame
Ikr
lucid terrace
Yeah
wide tiger
disallow picking up of ammo
kind jay
i mean you can have the ammo back but.. i did touch it already
fleet bear
people usually think gunpsyker shoot guns as main weapon but in reality its not
lucid terrace
Psykers need a nerf.
wide tiger
add ammo to staves
lucid terrace
No more health
steel flame
so inconsiderate
Clearly veteran abuse
lucid terrace
And they also start off with one wound already taken by corruption
wide tiger
Should make it so you go to 100% peril whenever you pick up ammo
olive ember
Lol I loved that one comment on your thread: gun psyker bad, take ammo away for ...
lol its a 10/10 comment ik
fleet bear
gun psyker usually dont even need to pick up one single stack of ammo
but people dont know that unless they play it
lucid terrace
Should make it so you go to 100% peril whenever you pick up ammo
If you pick up ammo, the game deletes System32
No more video game
kind jay
if you got 100% peril on ammo pickup i would just put on warp unleashed and literally steal all the ammo
olive ember
gun psyker usually dont even need to pick up one single stack of ammo
ehhh nah I pick up ammo alot
autopistol
steel flame
gun psyker usually dont even need to pick up one single stack of ammo
Well unless you use auto pistol and you can burn through 4k ammo in a hi int damnation mission. The irony being your killing so much stuff nobody else runs low on ammo so you get to take it all
wide tiger
I pick up ammo a lot on shredder, yeah
olive ember
but i do usually check teammates ammo first since I can fall back on BB if need be
fleet bear
i mean you dont have to but you can obviously yeah
wide tiger
but i also kill a shit ton too
fleet bear
i just dont pick up anything at all because people be bitching
wide tiger
and i make sure my other players get ammo unless they overloot a lot
and yeah i can always just melee for a bit if ammo is tight
i dont mind hitting that diet for a little bit
fleet bear
Well unless you use auto pistol and you can burn through 4k ammo in a hi int dam...
yea depends on the weapon as well tbh but usually less required
steel flame
Auto pistol has stupid good ammo economy. Which seems strange until you realize how much damage is in a single clip
lucid terrace
You could go laspistol so you don’t eat all the ammo you stooge 
fleet bear
autopistols are fucking ridiculous right now specially with that blessing
imagine a pistol making your ult stronger
and you just burn everything to the ground
steel flame
Shhhh there is still time for them to add a auto pistol nerf
fleet bear
oops
lucid terrace
Oh yeah, time is near…
fleet bear
what i meant to say was psyker needs buff plz literally unplayable
our best weapon is a pistol plz buff
olive ember
they are prob gonna nerf pinning fire
steel flame
Psyker is on a knife edge. They buff the wrong thing and we take over the entire game
olive ember
its what makes the autopistol strong
wide tiger
you better believe thats a prime reason its getting nerfed
yeah pinning fire prob gonna get the axe
fleet bear
yea pinning fire is too good i feel bad using it
olive ember
I legit ran the shredder on my zealot in damnation, but it only had cavalcade 3 and blaze away 3
wide tiger
harhar
olive ember
and holy shit
lucid terrace
I love trauma staff, I love surge staff, I love purgatus staff, I hate void staff, I love force sword, I love dueling sword, I love combat axe, I love tactical axe, I love every blessing that isn’t terrifying barrage.
lucid terrace
Now we got some nerfs ready
wide tiger
they need to nerf some blessings but bring weapons that rely on those blessings to perform up
but i feel like thats a complex task for FS
fleet bear
it really is
steel flame
Autopistol has such immense stagger you have full stack pinning the second you start firing
lucid terrace
but i feel like thats a complex task for FS
What isn’t a complex task for Fatshark?
kind jay
nerfing psykers?
wide tiger
RNG
lucid terrace
I suppose so
steel flame
What isn’t a complex task for Fatshark?
Immensely, immeasurably, infinitely complex
kind jay
do you have important things to do tomorrow?
lucid terrace
I hate converting time so I’m just hoping it comes out in two minutes.
kind jay
just blow it all off
olive ember
do you have important things to do tomorrow?
I got class and then an assignment due
so maybe I shouldn't be
half dead
kind jay
copy the smart kids homework!
steel flame
I wonder how many new weapons we are getting. Catfish kept hinting there was more than the two that were showcased
lucid terrace
I wonder how many new weapons we are getting. Catfish kept hinting there was mor...
We just getting the two prob
kind jay
i assume 1 for each class
lucid terrace
That’s a good bit of hoping.
kind jay
it sure is
fleet bear
I want new staff
wide tiger
we're gonna get 1 that they forget to add a force special too
so you'll do the animation and then be like ???
steel flame
Lol
kind jay
im hoping they accidently swap specials so you activate new fs and you hear chainsword rev up
steel flame
That would be hilarious
lucid terrace
im hoping they accidently swap specials so you activate new fs and you hear chai...
Your character ingame would start freaking out like “wtf is wrong with this thing????”
olive ember
copy the smart kids homework!
what if I am the smart kid
lucid terrace
You’re fucked
kind jay
"how come everytime i activate my sword a poxhound spawns on my face?"
"i sure am tired of the taste of dog nuts"
lucid terrace
“why are there thirty masozi models walking around the map punching heretics?”
kind jay
idk man masozi be scared to do anything but run away in that plane of hers
i would like to brain burst the valkyrie
lucid terrace
Brain burst the valk’s engine
kind jay
everytime she complains about skyfire i just wish i could hear someone say "sounds like a skill issue"
forest coral
just don’t get hit lmao
olive ember
Clearly thats what the flash mission is
its going to be an escort mission where you get shot down
and you gotta escort Masozi to safety 😄
and she'll have a garbo limp gait thats slow af
steel flame
That sounds fun for like 5 runs
olive ember
and you gotta make sure she doesn't die
steel flame
Then I'll just start shooting mazozi
lucid terrace
Fuck it, just give us a cinematic mission. Make us escape from a falling skyscraper or some shit
That’ll be fun.
fluid cove
Fuck it, just give us a cinematic mission. Make us escape from a falling skyscra...
An entire mission that starts with a boss fight and then is a Metroid dash to escape the ensuing explosions.