psyker-class

[viral solstice]

not heavy sword IX boring heavies

[cold geode]

heavy force sword

[viral solstice]

horse sword

[idle plover]

Imagine a horse with a horse sized sword.

No thanks.

Scary shit.

[ornate hamlet]

Horizontal lights, overhead heavies

Cum

[rain saddle]

beast of nurgle is not fun

plague ogryn is a blast

[ornate hamlet]

Me when psyker doesn't have the executioner sword equivalent of a force melee

[idle plover]

https://tenor.com/view/rhino-poop-worldbox-discord-gif-20781624

[lethal folio]

The random instant max corruption from BoN is not fun

[rain saddle]

Zealot chat said "well thats why you always have someone on the team to 3 shot it"

[cyan notch]

idk exe sword kinda doesnt fit psyker imo

[rain saddle]

brainlet

[viral solstice]

BoN needs more states and reactivity

[idle plover]

That isn't what was said. That is what you heard from it.

[olive ember]

Lmao some of these bug reports 10/10 priorities

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/bugs/94

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, it's weird to have axes and rifles to me

[narrow jolt]

ok, havent been on in a bit, best overall dueling sword? all reddit posts i see are from January and prior

[olive ember]

Fits zealot tho

[fiery atlas]

sometimes i get lil headaches so I use loud explosive guns instead

[narrow jolt]

or should i go with an axe of some sort?

[olive ember]

Iv or V iirc but I don’t use dueling swords cuz why would I kek

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly V

[idle plover]

In context these two next to eachother made me giggle.

[ornate hamlet]

Two diagonal slashes and an overhead on light, two overheads on heavy

[narrow jolt]

thanks for info

[narrow jolt]

also thanks

[ornate hamlet]

Also the overheads seemed to do more damage than the stabs on the other variants

Not that you'd want to overhead a crusher with a dueling sword, but

[viral solstice]

why not

get that uncanny stacked

[narrow jolt]

so a dueling sword vs an axe of some sort @ornate hamlet ? also crusher would just get the bb maneuver

[ornate hamlet]

I haven't bothered with axes cuz aesthetics tbh

[viral solstice]

its kinda cool stacking uncanny i think

its fun to duelling sword a crusher

en garde fiend

[olive ember]

Axes are just better 9/10 unless you only care about mobility and style

Tbh dueling sword looks dumb anyways imo why is the fucking insane space wizard using it

If it was some commissar or wte maybe

[narrow jolt]

eisenhorn

maybe

lol

[long orchid]

mark 4 dueling sword is pretty good but i agree the antax axe just sweeps the meta

[narrow jolt]

but then lets talk axes, if im running surge staff, and i want some form of solo dps viability in a shit situation what should i run

[viral solstice]

but i was informed earlier that it doesnt matter what antax does u can just not use it

[olive ember]

Antax

[viral solstice]

did u think about that

[long orchid]

Antax 5 with brutal momentum

[viral solstice]

smh

[olive ember]

Lmao

[viral solstice]

let me axe u a question

[spice veldt]

no rochelle

[long orchid]

if you want to have some kind of variety you can run a dueling sword

[olive ember]

I mean I run FS on my staff psykers

[spice veldt]

slaughterer FS also works

[long orchid]

Force sword is not worth it on surge tbh

you need something to cleave hordes

[olive ember]

The only psyker I run antax on is the auto pistol psyker I have

[spice veldt]

t3 +60% power works wonders

[olive ember]

Meh I use it fine kekw just have slaughterer 👍

[spice veldt]

keep in mind that the force sword has 6 cleave on its heavies and 40-ish minimum cleave damage

[olive ember]

Recently got t4 slaughterer so yeah I’m chilling now

[wide tiger]

surge is not worth it on surge imo

[rain saddle]

saber V is pog

[olive ember]

Fk you surge staff is best staff reee

[wide tiger]

But yeah i like FS on any staff i use, but then it creates the warp unleashed vs peril resist conundrum

[viral solstice]

the best staff is the staff reading this post

[narrow jolt]

what is pog

[wide tiger]

lmao

[wide tiger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/l03JEBWJxxUoCC7Yvl

[narrow jolt]

also i run fs currently with the t4 deflector, prior to the shield psyker slight nerf

[viral solstice]

tbh i think a lot of people would be pleasantly surprised just how spicy an unstable power slaught 4 force sword is

[narrow jolt]

decided i wanted to mix it up, but also i run voidstrike, so just need a better melee

[spice veldt]

you underestimate my power

[viral solstice]

not only is that a huge amount of power - doubling ur purg ticks or wahtever if u got that shit - but ur REALLY cool

[wide tiger]

only unstable II cause i dont want too much instability in my life

[viral solstice]

hell yea

[olive ember]

Oof that 68% dmg

[viral solstice]

lmao

unstable 4 slaughterer 4

[olive ember]

Now ik why you can’t hit break points

[viral solstice]

is literally the perfect roll

no

look

look

[olive ember]

Yes I see it

[wide tiger]

yeah

I know

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty is da way to go

[viral solstice]

thats a sign from da emprah or something

[wide tiger]

its just one of my 80 thousand force swords

that are all garbage

[olive ember]

I had to moderate a discord server full of 14 year olds…. My head hurts just thinking of all the your mom jokes

[narrow jolt]

so your saying that fs can out do an axe of some sort?

[lethal folio]

I keep getting deflector swords ick.

[olive ember]

.> deflector is amazing

[spice veldt]

if you hit less than 10 targets

then the slaughterer FS will do better than the antax

esp with warp unleashed

[viral solstice]

i think out-do is a strong term because theres situations where u just dont have bm, but if ur happy working around the move set u will chop most non-fiesta situations equivalently or better

[narrow jolt]

so dont pair it with the other thing above?

[olive ember]

Warp unleashed

Eewww

[spice veldt]

though that's only about its heavies

since the force sword's lights are relatively poopoo

[wide tiger]

finesse seems just as important as damage and first target on the FS

[olive ember]

Hey the lights could be worse on the FS

[wide tiger]

thanks hadron

[viral solstice]

hadrongles

[wide tiger]

you guys making me feel all self concious about my fs so i go roll another

[spice veldt]

+maniac but at what cost

[wide tiger]

and then i remember why i stopped

[spice veldt]

should I accidentally slip again and post my bloodthirsty FS

[wide tiger]

gotta go!

[olive ember]

Got precog?

[narrow jolt]

ok soooooo

[viral solstice]

dont let them harsh ur vibe im running blazing spirit IV unstable power IV and it owns sometimes i set ppl on fire live ur troof

[steel flame]

oops, how did that get there

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1087357752394924102/image.png

Got it yesterday

[narrow jolt]

is this a decent deal?

[spice veldt]

nice base stats, though you'd probably want BruMo if you want to go for hordeclear

[olive ember]

Replace thrust with brutal momentum and you vibing

[viral solstice]

perks are weird too

probs wanna drop 5% crit for a random damage type

but stats are great

decimator bm will let u do da big horde chop

[narrow jolt]

brutal momentum you say?

[spice veldt]

if you want your axe for hordeclear

thrust is fine for single-target and all that jazz

[olive ember]

Just means you can’t block or push attack with impunity

[viral solstice]

yeee if u just wanna swing lights into poxwalkers and go mentally afk

[narrow jolt]

what damage type would be recommended?

[viral solstice]

while ur screen fulls up

cant go wrong with flak tbh

[olive ember]

Prob flakiac as per usual

[cyan notch]

flakiac

the zealot chat is leaking everywhere

[olive ember]

Lmao

[narrow jolt]

ok move crit chance to flak, and get brutal momentum?

[olive ember]

At this point we’ve run out of content so everyone is just in every chat

[viral solstice]

yeee

[olive ember]

Basically

[narrow jolt]

ok ill try to roll that now

[viral solstice]

i mean i actually am the best at every class i just keep it on the downlow so i dont get banned for brain burst aimbotting

[spice veldt]

since criticals don't really do all that much damage on the antax anyways

except against flak for some reason

[viral solstice]

ur seeing a pen bonus there probs

is that lights

[spice veldt]

ye

[viral solstice]

yeah look at carapace

general rule if u see a big jump thats from finesse bonus giving u armour pen

if u look at heavies

[viral solstice]

u should see a smaller jump for flak in percentile terms

eh no its exactly the same eyeballing it

[spice veldt]

unarmoured crits to bodyshot is a 1.3x ratio

[viral solstice]

oh they have the same flak pen

so thats why

[spice veldt]

o

[viral solstice]

i was right by accident gg ez

[spice veldt]

pro

[viral solstice]

for bm axe

this is not an antax and it only has brutal momentum

but heres 40 poxwalkers gettin chopped

so if u put on decimator and eg infested u should be doing substantially better than this

[cyan notch]

111

he didnt post it

everyone point and laugh

[viral solstice]

its uploadin

[cyan notch]

epic fail!!!

[viral solstice]

im on 7mb up

wow are u seriously

pointing out my epic fail

[olive ember]

Non nitro user

SMH

[viral solstice]

im literally feeling owned

this is not legendary

[cyan notch]

[viral solstice]

or Gamer

[olive ember]

Wait he is a nitro user

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10B3IL4rwUkEPt/d1337uwmhUIL?invite=cr-MSx0aVIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[olive ember]

This guy spends money on nitro still has upload speed of poor

[viral solstice]

this is light attack spam on a rashad vs 40 poxwalkers wowee

london

is cursed

live in centre of london, fastest internet i can get is 45 down 7up

thank u bt

[olive ember]

Just move to freedom land

[blazing oak]

I think the whispers at high peril are the ramblings of the meme channel

[olive ember]

Our internet here is bipolar

[blazing oak]

^my internet disconnects me randomly can confirm

[viral solstice]

anyway gl lads enjoy jorts im going to try and fight the demons in my head in bed

[blazing oak]

Good luck

[viral solstice]

[olive ember]

Gn

[viral solstice]

i forgot how perfect this weapon is

[feral verge]

rashid

[robust relic]

I dont have a good void...is this worth?

[dire smelt]

do we know if the patch lands this week or next week?

[blazing oak]

Don’t think so

End of March is what I know so I’d assume next week

[dire smelt]

ye but 28th is also a v2 map

i would assume it is better for them if they stagger the releases

[steel flame]

NEXT WEEK™

[olive ember]

Stats are… good but not great, you got good damage roll tho. Swap out warp nexus for warp flurry and it’s prob good until you can get god roll

Also swap out unyielding for maniac

Otherwise good enough until you get that 370+ god roll

With transfer 4 or wte

[steel flame]

MY BRAIN IS :GOING TO EXPLODE: A🅰️A:A:A:A:

[blazing oak]

Another sibling lost.

[olive ember]

If not first NextWeekTM then second NextWeekTM

[spice veldt]

brumo mk4 TAxe is not too bad either
https://streamable.com/y93vrv

[blazing oak]

Let us not revive the Next Week Cult

Yet

[wide tiger]

We Canadians pay a billion dollars for our internet, but at least its fast af

[olive ember]

We can’t afford to since we have to pay for our healthcare and education here

$1500 USD for glorified quizlet card memorization

[cold geode]

gun pskyer is fun psyker

[blazing oak]

Funky funker gunker

[spice veldt]

very healthy curio

[obsidian creek]

how is warp nexus broken?

just doesn't work?

[spice veldt]

it works, but the thresholds are messed up

you get the first stack at 30%,
the second stack at 50%,
the third stack at 97%,
and the fourth stack at 97%... wait

for some reason, you get both the third and fourth stack at 97%

same goes for Unstable Power which uses these same thresholds

[obsidian creek]

what do you mean stack

[spice veldt]

you get 4% crit at 30% peril

then 8% crit at 50% peril

etc.

[obsidian creek]

ah

[spice veldt]

it doesn't scale continuously

because fatshark

[obsidian creek]

retarded

[olive ember]

It’s 5% a stack up to 20% but since the last two are gained at 97% peril

[obsidian creek]

so a tier4 is 5/10/15/20

[olive ember]

Realistically you will only have +10% crit from nexus

Yep

[obsidian creek]

so it's kinda.....meh

[olive ember]

Only good on purge and surge

Would be better if it actually worked but yeah

[steel flame]

well i just did the AB build for shredder and the verdict? ITS........Just Ok. you get significantly more damage with laceration, KB, keeping warp charges for gun damage and wrack and ruin. ive done 10 missions with the AB build today. ive averaging about 270k-300k, where as with KB laceration and wrack and ruin, im averaging 450k-470k

[obsidian creek]

oh i just realized

97% peril

you can't do warp attacks

fuckin lul

i mean, you technically can

[olive ember]

+5/10/15/20 crit at 30/50/97/97 peril for a 10/10 fatshark moment

[spice veldt]

for only the most pro of pro gamers

[obsidian creek]

so that's why realistically 10%

got it

[olive ember]

Yep

[obsidian creek]

so

i mean, with surge or purge, wouldn't focused channeling and warp flurry be better

[olive ember]

Warp flurry is broken

[fiery atlas]

i have that feat

[obsidian creek]

sigh

[fiery atlas]

it's kind of funny

[olive ember]

And if you play enough you don’t get hit often enough to make focused channeling good imo

[spice veldt]

two of the seemingly useful blessings on staffs are borked

[olive ember]

Technically speaking meta is warp nexus + terrifying barrage on purge and surge staff

[spice veldt]

(at least flurry on surge/purg)

[obsidian creek]

so how is flurry broken

[olive ember]

Once flurry gets fixed it should be flurry + nexus

Bugged on purge staff and surge staff. Here’s hoping (soon to be coping) that the next update finally fixes it

Link to bug report https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/purgatus-and-surge-warp-flurry-bug/76536

Copied from a Reddit post I was responding to

[obsidian creek]

have they recognized nexus being wonky?

[olive ember]

Yep

They had a fix that didn’t work

So here’s hoping next update actually fixes it lmao

Along with nexus, which is just a shitty variable pasted wrong

[obsidian creek]

i wonder what the fixed peril %s will be

on nexus

seems like 50% should be the final stack imo

[olive ember]

Probably 30/50/70/97

Cuz fatshark being fatshark

If we are lucky then 30/50/70/90 but I doubt it

[obsidian creek]

hm

well, thanks for the info lol

[olive ember]

There was a datamines that had “correct” values

But idk where to find it and Idr what they were

[lethal folio]

It's in the same place, those are the numbers for plasma gun

[olive ember]

But basically they have values set for the general class, and then they overwrote it for psyker and we got the 97/97 a true bruh moment

[blazing oak]

Does FatShark have a tzeentch cultist

Doing these things

[obsidian creek]

the incompetence is so weird, never having played a fatshark game before

they get so much right, but so much basic shit wrong

i don't get it

[blazing oak]

Reminds me of Nintendo

[olive ember]

Apparently the entire way they coded the game is a bruh moment

Something something all in LUA or wte

[blazing oak]

Able to make amazing games with good stuff and then the easier stuff they are incompetent

[olive ember]

Would have to ask @long wharf if he’s available

[blazing oak]

FatShark really wanted the true 40k rotten imperium in all aspects maybe?

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cyan notch]

why does one cost 500 melk bucks more

[olive ember]

hey bloodthirsty

[cyan notch]

who comes up with these prices

[olive ember]

lmao

[blazing oak]

Melk does probably

[shy warren]

is this a new psyker eye color? dont remember this one before

[smoky fractal]

its been der

and damn your rig makes that shit look nice

[olive ember]

running game on a 1080 can't relate

[shy warren]

I actually got darktide for free when I ordered the rtx 4090

[solemn barn]

so I blew up 4 shotgunner with perils and didnt count on malice, bug?

[long wharf]

I was summoned?

[olive ember]

oh no we were talking about fatshark programming a while back

[long wharf]

Ah okay

[haughty bough]

idk if its been brought up in this channel yet but the pre-release psyker video actually shows the new force sword

the footage is 4 months old tho so it could be entirely different tomorrow

[wide tiger]

😦

my melk brought a bunch of autoguns and axes

[spice veldt]

it better retain that diagonal heavy

there is no hope in this world if none of the heavies are sweeps

it would also be a cruel joke if there are three heavies and it happens to be the 3rd one

[olive ember]

don't worry I got complete trash too

[olive ember]

yeah if its the same as from the trailer then disappointment

[wide tiger]

Its okay i feel really good about an IX HS i rolled

[olive ember]

cuz it just looks like the moveset is reversed

[spice veldt]

t4 uncanny strike duelling sword in my milk shop wooo

im fine with the moveset reversal if it means that the 2nd light is removed

[olive ember]

fucking best HS i have

actual garbage

I think i'm gonna just use my antax

[spice veldt]

ur garbage

[olive ember]

which is also complete garbage as it turns out

my zealot is just poor in general tbh

[wide tiger]

thats pretty good

[olive ember]

headtaker 2 >.>

also I dont have the other blessing that I can't swap out

[wide tiger]

yeah but you havent locked a bless in yet

perks are ehhh

base stats are fantastic

[olive ember]

Ik they are

which is why I fucking malded when it was ruined

by FUCKING HADRON

[wide tiger]

so many force swords

that could've been great

I had to settle for stats:

[spice veldt]

😡

[olive ember]

welp

I use the thammer anyways so its wte

I just need to find a decent thammer tho

[blazing oak]

This reminds me of the person on the subreddit who said hammer psyker was a thing

[wide tiger]

my thammer is pretty mid, i still havent found anything over t2 thrust

[idle plover]

That's pretty good! First target is right on. Need higher damage though but yea

That is serviceable.

I would reroll your flak to 25% flak if you got the mats.

Because in the end if you find a Thrust IV you can put it on there. But your goal is one with less crowd control and more damage.

[wide tiger]

yeah, just havent gotten around to it

psh, less defense, crowd control

[idle plover]

Eh, I like Defenses but shrugs

I wouldn't say no to switch those stats

[wide tiger]

i like aspd :p

sad damage but ohwell, it came with slaughterer 3

[olive ember]

I mean it kinda is

atleast alot of people in #zealot-class love it

[blazing oak]

Thunder hammer psyker

[olive ember]

also wtf is this bayonet attack on the lucius mk 3

I'm using the fucking bayonet like its a fucking sword

[blazing oak]

Isn’t that a vet weapon

Vet only

[spice veldt]

yes it's a psyker only weapon

discussed in the perfect place for psyker weapons

[blazing oak]

Sibling’s gone mad again

[spice veldt]

no you're crazy

i won't stand for this disrespect

i will not

i will not

[blazing oak]

Okay sure

I say the truth

I’ve already had one person ask me if I was Gawain the discord mod since my character is named Gawain

[spice veldt]

lmao

welllll

[blazing oak]

I told them the discord mod was an impostor

[cold geode]

well melk finally paid off once

he put power cycler in the rotation

[spice veldt]

power cycler, the perfect blessing for my MK8 devil claw

[cold geode]

srsly

[olive ember]

god damn they need to fix antax heavies lmao

it takes 5 heavy swings to the head to kill a trapper

[cold geode]

yea, but it has that extra power on the light swing

from the bug

[olive ember]

nah thats not a bug

thats in line with every other axe

the bug is that antax has undertuned heavies compared to every other axe

Fatshark did a funny and nerfed lights instead of buffing heavies, which was why the antax "bugfix" got rolled back

[spice veldt]

every combat axe has lower maniac damage than heavies on their lights right

not just the antax

[vestal raven]

feel you on that one, T3 took me 3 months to get

[olive ember]

what about t4

[vestal raven]

still dont have it

[olive ember]

oof

[cyan notch]

what undertuned heavies

[vestal raven]

yeah my luck has been horrid for awhile lol

[spice veldt]

just calculating the ratio of heavy to light damage, all the combat axes are approximately the same except for Achlys' 1st heavy (the horizontal)

Rashad seems to have a higher heavy-to-light damage ratio against carapace compared to the other axes

no wait nvm I just wrote a 0 instead of a 5

it's in line with the other axes

[cyan notch]

yea theyre all the same shit

except for the heavy 1 u mentioned

[spice veldt]

the difference for Achlys' 1st heavy compared to other heavies
- Less damage against Carapace and Unyielding
- Greater damage against Maniac (compared to other CAxe heavies, not compared to its own lights. 0.75x-ish light-to-heavy multiplier instead of 0.63x-ish for the other CAxes).

[wide tiger]

to the point of worth using over lights on maniac?

[spice veldt]

nope

unfortunately not

[wide tiger]

boo achlys boo

[olive ember]

mfw when I see an eviscerator zealot and a claw sword vet

[wide tiger]

good for the vet for trying something else, sad for the vet for using the claw

i will one day build myself a god tier claw so i can get the surge staff experience on vet

[cyan notch]

i see a few chain axe vets here and there

[lunar hollow]

what perks go on force sword

[olive ember]

yeah alright so

this team was completely new

i was the only one doing the objective on hab dreyko

[olive ember]

perks eh you can go the typical maniac + flak, Carapace is aight for crushers I guess, if you use deflector and peril blocking +stamina and block efficiency also have use since it factors into how much peril you gain

[spice veldt]

+maniac being the more important perk to have

[wide tiger]

t5?

[rocky cedar]

That one is either brave or nonsensical

Not sure which

[wide tiger]

I did run a chain axe on my vet, or tried one out

[rocky cedar]

Chaxe with Vet's stamina stats sounds like a god awful time

[wide tiger]

i run stam regen, but yeah you cant do push/attack a lot

got this from emp had to try it

[rocky cedar]

Yeah replace head taker with thrust and that's pretty much as good as it gets

But yeah Vet stam regen delay sounds like pain

Considering how much you push with chaxe

[olive ember]

malice

but it felt like t5 ngl

the bot went down less than the other vet

[wide tiger]

oof

i mean malice is a pretty good place to go for first timers tho

my condolences

[olive ember]

they psyker was using the memestrike and lets just say...

aims in such a way that he only kills two poxwalkers, but just close enough that it knocks the shotgunner so my lucius shot misses and I drop out of counterfire

[spice veldt]

thats my boy

[olive ember]

also he loves using the taxe

like holy shit he runs infront of me to charge at two ragers with the taxe when I one shot them both cuz its malice

[spice veldt]

damn just like me forreal

i do that in damnation games but with the force sword

tbf, the TAxe does stagger ragers out of their combos with their heavies

[olive ember]

but hey making me sweat to get the final mission I needed to do so that my vet could get his t2 helmet

how very darktide

[spice veldt]

the tide is dark

[olive ember]

oh boy hi int this time

[sick solar]

Thoughts on this?

[grizzled jasper]

Lvl 28 is READY

Let’s gooooo

[olive ember]

tbh i don't really use dueling sword but ik you want rampage on it iirc

the perks are mid and the blessings I think are kinda bad

stats are good tho

[wide tiger]

the only thing you need to know about rampage is you basically need to push attack to trigger it

which makes me not like it as much

[potent echo]

Shred and rampage seems fine

You only need push attack once and you can get like 2 rotations out before you gotta push attack again

But push attack is really good at fighting hordes anyway

[wild inlet]

hm, https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11x6z4c/psa_how_to_use_wrack_and_ruin_to_make_it_bis/

[spice veldt]

push-attack isn't that good because of the extremely crap minimum cleave damage

[potent echo]

Problem is still the aoe of the effect, 4m even buffed is really crap

[spice veldt]

even with the MKII and MIV with the cleave damage stat, the minimum cleave damage is along the lines of 10

[wild inlet]

true, but they can get pretty crowded in damnation at times

[potent echo]

Oh isit really that low

[spice veldt]

yup

the push-attack has the same cleave distribution as the lights

[wild inlet]

like are they using the gun to boost the burn dot?

[spice veldt]

behold the cleave distribution

yup; any buffs that are active will also apply to burn/soulblaze/bleed

e.g., power buffs from pinning fire, slaughterer, etc.

or rending% from Uncanny Strike and whatnot

[cyan notch]

how is that bad tho

thats better than lights

[spice veldt]

that's the same as the lights

they are the EXACT same

actually they aren't, cuz the weakspot/crit cleave damage for the push-attack is better

lights

that's a difference that I didn't notice before

[potent echo]

I have alot of success with MkV and hordes though, maybe not axe gaming but feels about the same as salty rapier in vt2

[cyan notch]

yea and it cleaves more and ur going to be pushing for space anyway

[spice veldt]

well yeah, but my point is that it's not that much better than the normal lights

obviously you're going to push-attack if you're already going to push, just like you would with the antax

[potent echo]

Yea you won't push attack spam with the duelling sword

Just to control and get the slaughterer buff

[cyan notch]

slaughterer

LOL

[spice veldt]

i wish the duelling swords had slaughterer

[potent echo]

Rampage

words

[spice veldt]

we have slaughterer at home

[wide tiger]

or you know

headtaker

[potent echo]

They should buff riposte to give 20% crit buff at least

[wide tiger]

like heavy sword

😄

[spice veldt]

headtaker makes sense for a single-target weapon

which the heavy swords totally are

[wide tiger]

totally

[viral solstice]

Imagine using multi target attacks on the duelling sword literal disgrace

1v1 those poxwalkers one glove slap at a time

[potent echo]

Their special is kind of single target

Heavy sword

[viral solstice]

Duelling sword needs slap

[wide tiger]

i would love it

slap with taunt effects

i challenge you to a duel

[potent echo]

D d d d d d

[calm sapphire]

Which staff is usually the most fun?

I'm trying out psyker

[rocky cedar]

That question is obviously extremely subjective

But the correct answer is indeed trauma

[calm sapphire]

trauma is the one with the bomb like projectiles?

[rocky cedar]

No that's void

Trauma is ground explosions

[steel flame]

I like using the shredder staff. It goes brrrrrrrrr

[rocky cedar]

I swear I was treated like a heretic when I first said autopistol Psyker is good here

[steel flame]

Yeah....

Good ole days

[rocky cedar]

Zazy is your PFP RJ250?

From DRG

[steel flame]

Back in my day we burned our gunkers on a pile of recon lasguns

[steel flame]

Yessir yessir

[rocky cedar]

How did I only just realise

[steel flame]

I dunno Mr mission control

[rocky cedar]

You are a person of impeccable taste clearly

[steel flame]

I did RJ before it was cool 😎

[rocky cedar]

RJ low key busted, but everyone stans for fat boy

SMH my head

[steel flame]

I'm kinda the one that talked them into buffing it. I gave them the stats and changes it needed and they actually changed it back in U34. Although they did go a bit overboard with the ammo

[rocky cedar]

GOATed

[cyan notch]

goatest of all timed

[steel flame]

Yeah the DRG devs are just the coolest

[rocky cedar]

They are indeed very cool though I wish they'd do more balance passes these days

S3 was cool but it was basically just the GK2 update and so much stuff still needs tuning 😢

Anyway I'll stop derailing with DRG now

[fiery atlas]

what do we burn them on now?

[wide tiger]

I took it seriously 😛

People sleep on a lot of weapons in this game

[rocky cedar]

Yeeeeeee

Lotta meta chasers

There is finally a "nerf Caxe BM" thread on the forums

I am amazed it took this long

[cyan notch]

its not so much meta chasers as much as guns dont really synergise with anything

its just fine

not the worst

definitely not the best

[rocky cedar]

I mean they still synergise more with Psyker than Zealot, questionably intentional Ult interaction aside

[steel flame]

I dunno, I feel far more self sufficient as Psyker with a shredder than I ever did with a staff. Don't get me wrong I love using staves but I feel like I can handle literally anything with the shredder build while I had to watch out for alot more things with staves

[rocky cedar]

I think they're talking about feat synergy more than effectiveness

There isn't much in the tree you look at and go "hell yeah guns"

[cyan notch]

yea ur first 2 columns are basically worthless

your toughness regen is scuffed u have to jump through hoops to force it to work

[rocky cedar]

But in reality warp siphon = a lot of free break points for a lot of guns

[fierce sinew]

power bonuses are just strong in the current system

it has fuck all to do with guns

[rocky cedar]

Yeah toughness can be a little scuffed

[clear heath]

i mean zealot also has the increased ranged damage when close feat

[rocky cedar]

Yeah but you give up arguably their best melee feat for it

So questionable pick regardless

As Psyker you basically get that for free regardless of range

[near wyvern]

Relying on warp siphon for break points is yikes

[fierce sinew]

I mean you give up 8% damage for the meme that is flayer in most gun builds

[rocky cedar]

Why? It's pretty easy to maintain these days

[fierce sinew]

the opportunity cost paid in both cases is similar

[rocky cedar]

Yeah that extra 8% may or may not matter in a lot of cases though

I like warp battery but I think it's a little over hyped

Outside of AB

Obviously

[near wyvern]

At times you can't get a BB off and don't get charges from partials. At times you literally cannot BB if there is a horde + Bulwark in your face

[clear heath]

Well, you'll still never lose that many charges for extended periods of time

Like sometimes you'll be 1 charge off max sure

[near wyvern]

It's the same thing why crit builds feel a bit bad to play, in a game like this where everything his like a truck you want reliability

[clear heath]

but to be 2 charges off max you'd have to be doing nothing for 50 seconds

[near wyvern]

Warp charges are just a nice added bonus but don't rely on them for break points

[clear heath]

having at least 2 charges off max is pretty much a given

i wouldn't rely on max for breakpoints, but i can easily rely on having some of them

there is no way you're losing all of them for that long. For a brief moment after an elevator sure

but losing all 4 from a fight? You really aren't using BB for 100 seconds after building them up?

[rocky cedar]

Depends a bit on the gun TBF

[clear heath]

i mean surely at some point in the fight there will be some time to build charges

[rocky cedar]

If you're bringing a sniping/shooter clearing gun you may not have much motivation to BB, or more you feel compelled to do it just for upkeep

[clear heath]

or at some point where you just want to actually use brain burst to kill something

Yeah i'm counting doing it for upkeep

[near wyvern]

With infantry lasguns you only really BB when there is a crusher, bulwark or a dog or a trapper that is running away

[clear heath]

usually there's some time in those 100 seconds where you're free to do a few BB for upkeep

fights aren't that crazy for that long

[summer prairie]

if you have to use bb inefficiently to maintain charges, the extra damage from warp battery is probably not worth it

[rocky cedar]

Oh I agree you can do it, just I understand the perspective that intentionally not using the optimal attack just for upkeep is not great

Hence why I think shredder is an amazing pairing, lot of times when you want to BB anyway

So you're rarely doing stuff just for upkeep

[clear heath]

I think it's worth it to bb at the beginning of an encounter anyways. It usually doesn't hurt

[fierce sinew]

there's plenty of dead time for upkeep regardless

[tough trail]

dang all i need now is going out with a bang and im done with penances

[rocky cedar]

Well yes there are often scattered ambients you may as well BB

So in reality it doesn't cost you much a lot of the time to build stacks

[steel flame]

Warp siphon has been working out real well for me with shredder so far. I use kb whenever I need some toughness back and I've got so much suppression and crowd clear I found I don't take nearly as much toughness damage as I thought. Typically flayer procs are enough to keep my toughness topped up. Don't even need communion to stay with max charges so laceration is just free damage. And wrack is also free damage. And 4 stacks of warp charge is free damage. Das alot of damage. I think it all synergizes quite well

[fierce sinew]

with the charge expiration change you can slide bb ambient mooks while you pick up plasteel etc

frequently enough to upkeep for free

[clear heath]

Yeah all i'm saying is you can reliably assume you don't have 0 charges

[rocky cedar]

Agreed

[rocky cedar]

Yeah I agree with a gun like shredder it all synergises better than it might look like it would at first glance

However we could still really use a gun feat

Just one would be nice

[steel flame]

I want a gun psyker class more than a gun feat

But that's just me

[near wyvern]

Get rid of Mind in Motion, make it base line and there is a free slot. But given how VT2 still has absolutely garbo talents I give 0 hopes for proper feat reworks.

[wide tiger]

Yeah mind in motion up there for worst feat in game

I saw a suggestion on the forums to be able to reset a weapon to profane once it's legendary, if they aren't gonna give us full perk and blessing unlocking I'd settle for this. Right now profane hunt is the worst part for me

Unrelated to current conversation

[ornate hamlet]

same tbh

[stable silo]

whats the shredder feat build ? at

[ornate hamlet]

I'm accepting that what I see is what I get at the moment

[steel flame]

I have a theory about why mind in motion exists. So there was mechanic in vt2 where if you were in critical heat you would move slower and your attack speed was lowered. I bet that it was originally was planned but then was scrapped, so kind in motion became only walk fast while quelling

[clear heath]

I think they just ran out of ideas

[steel flame]

Or that

[wide tiger]

They should make mind in motion so that when you move you quell

[rocky cedar]

This is what I use

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/98ad11dc-060e-480c-b556-577da42bdf62/auto-gunker

[clear heath]

If they want to keep the feat in the game for whatever reason, they should add something to it.
Faster moving while brain bursting or increased quell speed

[rocky cedar]

Swap communion to laceration for more micro but better Ogryn/boss damage

[steel flame]

This is what I find the best. Other people go with ab and communion and Tranquility

[limpid lily]

guys uhh, does the death korps of krieg have psykers? any lore nerd here?

[wide tiger]

I like that one too

[rocky cedar]

Swap inner tranq to W&R if you'd prefer that to more BB spam/better KD

[stable silo]

ah very similar im using that except communion

i like spamming fire on AB lol

[rocky cedar]

Yeah communion is unnecessary I just like spraying density to get reliable essence harvest

[steel flame]

I've been averaging 400k to 475k damage per match in high int damnation with that build

[rocky cedar]

Yeah W&R and shredder both scale disgustingly well with enemy density

[stable silo]

so communion is overkill on warp gen ?

[steel flame]

200% damage soulblaze ftw

[rocky cedar]

Hard to upkeep though

[wide tiger]

Yeap

[rocky cedar]

Blaze and pinning both fall off very fast

[steel flame]

Wait. it's 300% with both blaze and pinning

Yeah but it's fun while it lasts

[rocky cedar]

It's 310% with 6 warp charges

290% with 4

[steel flame]

Thats just overkill

[wide tiger]

Have to flayer

[rocky cedar]

If everything is attack stacked

Which it won't be

[wide tiger]

I'm rarely at blaze away 5

[steel flame]

Honestly don't even really need the soulblaze damage but there isn't much reason not to take it

[rocky cedar]

Realistically only pinning will be somewhat consistently upkept if you're actively burst firing to keep it up

[wide tiger]

That's how I feel too, unless I'm running a fs for some reason

Then I go warp unleashed

[rocky cedar]

Mag dumping for bonus power on soulblaze just isn't advisable

[wide tiger]

Yeah

[ornate hamlet]

I only take the peril resist for level 10 if I'm losing too much when blocking, which isn't a thing because kinetic deflect is pretty cracked

[rocky cedar]

You'll kill everything with the pistol before soul blaze does much if you do that anyway

[wide tiger]

Kd do be a powerhouse, but the better I get at the game the less I block cept when rezzing

[steel flame]

I have never run out of peril block with knife. Like ever. I never once felt like I needed tranquility

Or on antax.

I might run tranquility with the new force sword if the special is spamable

[clear heath]

I mean if the special works the same way, tranquility won't matter anyways

since force sword can special at 99% without killing you

[steel flame]

True

[rocky cedar]

Tranq is probably pretty unnecessary for KD unless you're tanking a DH

But who cares about the scenario

[potent echo]

Any ideas if it will share the same blessing pool?

[rocky cedar]

The new FS?

[potent echo]

Ye

[rocky cedar]

Highly likely since they said the new weapons are variants

And to my knowledge all weapons that share a base with different MKs have the same blessing pool

[near wyvern]

I use this but AB instead of KB, otherwise the same

[steel flame]

I don't get the ab tho. Feels super inconsistent tbh.

But It clearly works for alot of people. Just isn't for me I guess

[stable silo]

dam so close

good stats/perk bad blessings

[steel flame]

I've got an almost perfect knife but it's got crit bleed and non weakpoint bleed

Sadge

[wide tiger]

Oh God.. but it's the same mk

[steel flame]

Lots of bleed though

[stable silo]

couldnt you reroll one of the bleed to mercy killer then?

[rocky cedar]

Yeah unnecessary amounts of horde clear and stack micro when you could just go brrrrrrr with Shredder and basically achieve the same thing

[wide tiger]

Ahhhhhh

[steel flame]

Crit bleed is the one locked in. The other one was terrible

[stable silo]

well the way i think of AB is just free damage on ult spam anyway something to use with those warp charges

that and you feel so badass screaming tehn everything falling down on fire while your slashing and shooting

[steel flame]

I guess I could still put mercy on with the crit bleed. But I still like it for bleedeing bosses and ogryns

[rocky cedar]

Warp siphon is multiplicative with power bonuses though

[stable silo]

my knifes blessings are super scuffed im sad 1 good blessing would have made it great

[rocky cedar]

I'd rather have all that extra shredder damage than AB

[steel flame]

Not havin an emergency BB button though. Makes me feel naked

[rocky cedar]

Yeah same

[stable silo]

fair actually 16% dmg is pretty strong

[rocky cedar]

Oh shit I see 3 shotgunners coming let's stagger them all and kill at least 2 of them before they recover

KB is nice

Sniper to deal with? Push everything back then kill it and probably something else before melee pressure resumes

Etc

[potent echo]

KB is great also if a horde comes and brings 3-4bulwarks and your team has no grenades (somehow)

[stable silo]

if your run KB you run tranq instead of wrack right ?

[rocky cedar]

It's still preference

Yeah you can BB without interruption more

But W&R can be a lot of free damage

[potent echo]

Does wrack proc if the target dies before you pop?

[rocky cedar]

I just haven't experimented with W&R enough yet to work out which I prefer for Gunker

[potent echo]

I never tried it in an actual game

[rocky cedar]

Presumably not

[potent echo]

Poopy

[rocky cedar]

The trigger is it hitting

[steel flame]

I need to stop playing psyker for a bit so I stop derailing psyker chat into gunker land.

[potent echo]

I was wondering if the half charge thing gain a warpcharge interaction works

[rocky cedar]

Nah cause warp charge gain isn't the trigger

Hitting an elite or special is

Good to melt stuff around Ogryn elites especially

Land 2 hits and all the horde around them are dead

[potent echo]

Might be really good for the bulwark in horde scenario

[rocky cedar]

Yeah I imagine that is where W&R shines

[potent echo]

Will give it a try, also I missed the entire "autopistol is now meta" phase what's so good about it now?

[worn heath]

blaze away+pinning, huge ramp in power really quickly, quick swap/quick reload so you're not really caught off guard

that and it staggers most anything, it's downright busted on zealot where they can pop f and now the thing has armor piercing so it can melt crushers too

[potent echo]

Thanks for the summary

[clear heath]

Pinning was always good, but they also gave autopistol damage buffs, even more damage buffs against maniac, and more ammo per mag

[potent echo]

Looking forward to the balance changes end of this month too

Trauma buffs copium

[near wyvern]

No. You must land a hit on an elite or special. That being said it does proc from KF if it hits one.

[rocky cedar]

And the ludicrously high stagger buff that also happens to make activating pinning way way more consistent on elites

[potent echo]

KF value

[rocky cedar]

I legitimately think it's much better on Psyker after using it on both

BB covers its weaknesses eerily well

And warp siphon means you consistently do more DPS with it than Zealot

I will say for Zealot it covers for T Hammer and Chaxe very well

[worn heath]

it's also pretty good on vet where it has more ammo than god and the reload perks just mean even more uptime on blasting

but yea it's a really good gunpsyker weapon

moreso than the accatrans I still see around imo

[clear heath]

It works with gunpsyker for the same reasons recon lasguns work on gunpsyker
except unlike recon, it's actually a good weapon

[acoustic trench]

trauma staff enjoyers, what blessings do you use on them?

[wide tiger]

flurry and rending shockwave for support, or nexus for greed

[acoustic trench]

Does rending shockwave really make that much of a difference?

[wide tiger]

not for you

but for your allies sure

[acoustic trench]

Like I have this one right now

[cyan notch]

channelling flurry

[acoustic trench]

Probably should replace blazing spirit with warp flurry

[old delta]

Rending and Warp Flurry on Trauma is a beast combination

[potent echo]

Anyone tested what is "scaling with charge time"

[old delta]

No idea how much it applies as you charge, all I know is that it applies the +6 on max charged attack ^^

[acoustic trench]

What's the difference between brittleness and rending?

[viral solstice]

+x rending and brittleness are the same

x% rending is not a debuff on enemies, its a buff on u

[acoustic trench]

Oh I see

One's a buff on me and the other's a debuff on enemies.

[old delta]

All the party benefits from Brittleness, but rending is good only to you

[viral solstice]

+x rending is the same as brittleness tho

like

the version on bolters

same debuff in lua

they just tooltipped them diff because

[potent echo]

Wait

So it's the %?

Or is it the wording

[cold geode]

waiting for item reroll.... ugh

[viral solstice]

+1 rending is 5% brittleness

max 8 stacks / 40%

[potent echo]

But %rending is on yourself

[viral solstice]

indeed

and goes up to 100%

[potent echo]

Why

[viral solstice]

[potent echo]

That's so needlessly confusing

[stable silo]

dam lol stupid low dmg

hey is the mk 5 duel sword any good?

[digital loom]

dueling in a horde game

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-twister-dragon-twister-swordsman-sword-gif-25156634

[near wyvern]

yes, it's good mobility and does well to dispatch mutants with +maniac damage due to how it can find a weakspot in his A hole

it's one of the two high mobility options for psyker, the other one being the combat blade (knife)

[stable silo]

so it generally better than mk 2 ?>

[near wyvern]

Why do I have to do everything by myself? Shame this thing doesn't show the revives / rescues cos I did rez all the others at least once, some even twice

[near wyvern]

when people state better they gotta start adding the metric you are measuring

mobility? yes
cleave? no

cleave in general with duelling swords is a bit meh tho, but it all comes down to what you need

[stable silo]

ah i see atm im running shredder got a really good pistol no staffs lol

[near wyvern]

if you have shredder you probably don't need more mobility, it has quite a good sprint game

something like Mk V combat axe or Slaughterer Force Sword might fill more gaps

siblings let's go

[uneven drift]

Remember, Pygex: don't die!

[near wyvern]

I don't get it, how am I supposed to not die?

[spice veldt]

had an interrogator mid event where the veterans just hid in a corner and didn't protect me
and the other psyker didn't know to just spam push to guard me

[stable silo]

i demand all 4 of you blow up at the same time

[uneven drift]

In the light of The Emprah.

[wide tiger]

What could go wrong

[uneven drift]

Just a 1 hour run, nothing special

[stable silo]

i ask about the mk 5 cause i have a good base with high pen and good perk sadly not great blessing i think anyway

[wet belfry]

Dueling sword doesnt really have good “blessings”.

Uncanny strike is a role that the psyker can usually already fulfill with brainburst

[stable silo]

ooh with laceration

[wide tiger]

precog gives me future sight so i can see how bad im gonna get fucking owned with the precog blessing

[wet belfry]

Shred just increases crit, which isnt that powerful compared to blessings that increase damage/power.

Rampage is extremely hard to trigger due to the swords low cleave targets.

[summer prairie]

Push attack has 6 cleave and pretty good 3 target damage

[stable silo]

so its prob better to aim for a good ol force sword?

[near wyvern]

lol we got wiped by a single burster

on stairs

[wet belfry]

I do think force swords right now are better.

[digital loom]

hehe, I can get really toxic on this subject, but tl;dr: this is normal in "team" games

[potent echo]

From top DPS I assume you played gunker

[digital loom]

i just dont want to piss off most of the server by laying it out

[near wyvern]

nope, blazing spirit trauma

I am onto something with my build

[potent echo]

What blazing spirit trauma how does that work

[viral solstice]

u just do zero charge traumas until they crit and then it sets everybody on fire and its funny

[near wyvern]

you take the cycler feats and ult whenever you get a proc if you have it up (and there are many enemies)

[viral solstice]

thats the only way ive played trauma u just do green farts

it rules

full charging it is just fully charging ur disapopointment

[near wyvern]

that is you always get at least 4 stack AB off ( a tiny bit smaller one tho) but you can also get up to 7 stacks

[potent echo]

What in the world is a green fart

[uneven drift]

That's unfortunate

[stable silo]

a fart from the soul friend is a green fart its your connection to the warp expressed as a Nobel Gas

[potent echo]

Its actually better than purg?

[near wyvern]

no

[viral solstice]

then ur not tooting right

just toot it up

obviously if u were serious about doing well u would have a recon las or a voidstrike trauma is just for memes come now

btw

force sword cleave

substantially better than evis

another dub

force sword users stay winning

[wide tiger]

Nexus or flurry

[viral solstice]

this is the ideal trauma staff

u may not like it

but this is peak performance

(tier 3 or 4 warp nexus is cheating and not allowed)

[wide tiger]

I've got the same staff lol

[stable silo]

im actually so into that staff right now

[viral solstice]

its hip

its fashionable

[wide tiger]

Actually yours has better stats

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10DL9YLkHOm6Ul/d1337OEBgXlt?invite=cr-MSxxVVksMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

look at this absolute devastation

those poxwalkers arent coming back from this

[stone sundial]

Has the interaction between blazing spirit force sword and surge staff been patched out? I vaguely recall that you used to be able to hot-swap to melee and set stuff on fire

[potent echo]

Looks like you'll climb to the top of the scoreboard in no time

[ornate hamlet]

This is the psykhanium, they literally are

[hybrid solstice]

I am speed

[near wyvern]

So for anyone interested in testing the blue fire trauma, here is the build and the staff. The staff I have is not opitmal, you would really want max charge speed & blast radius with +infested or +unarmoured on that thing since it also buffs the damage you deal with the blaze as well as Warp Nexus 4.

The strategy is to mix mid & full charges, you essentially are trying to fish out a proc on a group of enemies and then AB if it's up. The longer you charge, the greater the AOE but less chances of applying the blaze. Fully charged secondaries have a huge range. Shit on elites, get ult back, don't care about your charges. The trick here is that even with no charges, getting a proc and doing AB equals to about a 4 stack AB. With full charges you get a 7 stack when you apply it on a proc. In a pinch you can ult first and then start bombarding with the staff but the staff Blazing Spirit has a limit of 6 stacks so you can't go higher than that.

Seems to top stagger & damage meters on damnation consistently and you would be surprised how often you can ult.

[hybrid solstice]

does blazing spirit have a tier 4 version?

[near wyvern]

on FS yes on staves no

[hybrid solstice]

i just assume it does but idk

oh wow

what an unnecessary limitation

[near wyvern]

yeah, it also sucks it has the 6 stack limit cause it's really hurting the macro spirit void

cause with voidstrike you get an application with the projectile and the explosion so any elites for example will always get instantly to 6 stacks if it procs with void on them

[viral solstice]

i got the tier 4 blazing spirit on my sword

its op

ppl go on fire

[near wyvern]

op? I doubt. fun, possibly yes

the thing with FS is that it doesn't cleave enough to get more juice out of it

if you combine it with bloodthirsty you can sorta be a pseudo power sword user but you just lack the cleave

"but it melts single targets with specials" :/ special already melts single tragets

if shred was buffed then you maybe could do a boss slap stick with spirit 4 and shred 4 on a FS

[hybrid solstice]

yeah blazing spirit on force sword just feels like a meme

a cool one perhaps, but still

[near wyvern]

all the blazing spirit builds I have tried so far have been mediocre at best, until I figured to try the spirit trauma with my cycler feats

that thing seems to be on top of the charts, consistently

[potent echo]

One day we might get sienna pyromancer subclass that goes full into crits and stuff

[steel flame]

Maybe one day we can truly cosplay blue sienna

[near wyvern]

until they give a reliable way to push crit to 50+ range consistenly, crit builds are not gonna work

[steel flame]

I can dream

[hybrid solstice]

i think both void and trauma need some sort of slight charge speed buff or something, they can feel awkward when you come off of surge and purg that can just spray all day practically on demand

[potent echo]

[hybrid solstice]

would be nice if curios didnt exclusively have defensive stats on them

[near wyvern]

at 100% trauma has 1 second charge speed so...

just wait for the reds

[near wyvern]

indeed, lemme go full glass cannon cause now I'm just glass without the cannon

I'd rather take +10% or +15% crit chance instead of that amount of toughness

[potent echo]

Imagine that on a vet tho

[near wyvern]

infernus says hello

[hybrid solstice]

also curios shouldnt be as restrictive with locking rerolls like weapons, they have more perks and their blessing is unchangeable

like wtfrick

[near wyvern]

hey, one system fits all

[hybrid solstice]

i think VT2 trinkets let you get like 5 or 10% crit max or something

unless im completely misremembering

[near wyvern]

I'd still take it

[hybrid solstice]

you didnt necessarily need to run crit on trinkets though since the traits and feats in that game were generally more conducive to allowing you to achieve more regular critical hits

[near wyvern]

where is my guaranteed crit every 10 seconds 😦

now I just have 10% chance to do an additional BB every 15 seconds

[hybrid solstice]

i remember Shade could guarantee infinite crits on ult for a short time which was pretty sick

idk if they changed that or not

[cyan notch]

yes

cloak of mist is gone

[ornate hamlet]

Now she gets a crit when stealthed and there's a talent that refreshes stealth when killing an elite during the ult

The patrol clowner

It clowns on patrols

[near wyvern]

🤡

that emoji even has 'pointy ears'

[ornate hamlet]

And by that I mean rat patrols because they count as man-sized and she slays man-sized on a charged crit backstab

Chaos warriors just turn around and ask you if you slapped a "kick me" sign on them

[stable silo]

think this axe is worth rollin da dice on ?

[near wyvern]

anything sub 370 base is not worth rolling for me, I mean if you have the mats go for it

it's a bit personal question if something is worth rolling

[stable silo]

i wasted my mats getting a boss shredder rfol

[near wyvern]

if it's an upgrade it's an upgrade

[viral solstice]

no its DEFINITELY op fire sword is fire

also my blazing spirit force sword kills 20 poxwalkers in 10 seconds whereas my devil claw takes 15 seconds

so its definitely op

[near wyvern]

My Trauma kills 20 poxwalkers in 2 seconds... so... yeah. Broken.

[viral solstice]

?? thats 100% gonna get nerfed

its better thand evil claw

tbh this devstrike chainsword is kinda fun u just mash buttan

[dire coral]

Say i wanted to make a devil's claw mk IV as my melee, what blessings would ya lot put in it, even thou a MK 5 axe is better, i just wanted to try the sword.

mainly for wave clear

[uneven drift]

@viral solstice explain this poor soul the thing

[viral solstice]

well i mean if u wanna use it basically theres only realyl 2 things u can do

either shred/devstrike or savage sweep rampage

neither are amazing

other than that light heavy and pray

because almost all the damage dealt by ur heavy sweep is in the first 2 targets make sure u hit a head

uhh

good luck?

[dire coral]

Dang, it's liek that huh

Iknew it was bad

But got damb

[viral solstice]

yea..

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1077K6cCDitR25/d1337MfvsROX?invite=cr-MSxma2csMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

this is a perfect stats rampage shred devil claw

4

[dire coral]

Now what's this i hear about blazing being good on a sword?

[viral solstice]

against 20 stacked poxwalkers

[dire coral]

I cannot see it

like ya get a crit every blue moon

[viral solstice]

well

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/10t63IinOi9f04/d13372HnbZLW?invite=cr-MSw4MmIsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[dire coral]

and the proc gets on one mob

[viral solstice]

i mean the blazing spirit no shred force sword

kills 20 poxwalkers faster than the devil claw

so its gotta be good

dat just stands to reason

[spice veldt]

crab is just memeing, since blazing spirit has basically no effect without shred/bloodthirsty

he means that a base force sword will beat a devil's claw

[viral solstice]

um if im meming why am i posting COLD HARD DATA

smh ppl dont respect empiricism any more

[spice veldt]

although I see that unstable power buff

[viral solstice]

hume rotating in his grave

[dire coral]

yh i figured

[spice veldt]

whatever ur just a crab

[viral solstice]

yeah but the devil claw has 40% rampage hello???

hellooooo omg ur so mean

[spice veldt]

ok crab

[viral solstice]

actually u wanna know

what is equally shit

the evis

[spice veldt]

yes

damn

really?

[viral solstice]

yep

[spice veldt]

i heard it was not up to par

[viral solstice]

savage sweep evis 15s to kill 20 poxwalkers

[spice veldt]

but god damn

[viral solstice]

oh and btw people who say u use "push attack" for horde clear

uhh

3 target cap

[spice veldt]

3 da

yup

[viral solstice]

but first law of push attacks always applies

[spice veldt]

zealots really got fucked with their class weapons except heavy sword

smh force sword has a one target cap on their push-attack

buff pls?

well not cap

[viral solstice]

i wonder how long it takes to bm push attack 20 poxwalkers