what is this
#psyker-class
cerulean glade
near wyvern
Your are not worthy
cerulean glade
Your are not worthy
please tell me . iam new 😦
rocky cedar
Just push attacking wildly with 0 concern for stam management can be great on its own in a lot of situations
steel flame
please tell me . iam new 😦
You didn't use enough incense during your computer blessing
spice veldt
like guarding someone on an interrogator
cerulean glade
what do u mean @steel flame@near wyvern
near wyvern
please tell me . iam new 😦
Try the basics:
- check internet connection
- validate game files
- restart game
- re install game
olive ember
rocky cedar
The omnisiah did not bless your computer
olive ember
Clearly they just need to throw in a spoopy fog monster
near wyvern
what do u mean <@332694954050846720><@345531303942291457>
We are just throwing in thematic slurs for jokes
steel flame
what do u mean <@332694954050846720><@345531303942291457>
It's a 40k joke. You wouldn't get it
rocky cedar
Not enough faith
cerulean glade
Try the basics:
- check internet connection
- validate game files
- restart game...
oki 😦
steel flame
Ventilation purge is really fun on some maps and can suck on others. Personally I enjoy it more than power outage. Darktide maps need more ambient lighting to make power outage more interesting
olive ember
I mean I’m the pre order beta it used to have sunny spots as well but it got removed
Kinda makes sense canonically considering most of the “skylight” we see is actually artificial but eh
steel flame
At least it's not the forced darkness from vermintide 2
steel flame
Kinda makes sense canonically considering most of the “skylight” we see is actua...
I just want more things to glow
spice veldt
maybe a bit more unique mechanics tacked on to each condition
like from GTFO, where we get glowstick pickups or something that's analogous for Lights Out
and also from GTFO, a fog repeller or something analogous for Ventilation Purge
steel flame
Or....now hear me out.....put torches on every weapon and give flashlights for psykers with staves
olive ember
and also from GTFO, a fog repeller or something analogous for Ventilation Purge
please
no more fog repeller
spice veldt
yes
olive ember
i can't take that glitchy piece of shit
spice veldt
:D
olive ember
fucking checkpoint and one of my group members legit couldn't see the fog be dispersed so he had to play the entire level blind
spice veldt
something something 6th senses
olive ember
if it was infection fog he would've been infected lmao
cuz fogs client side or some shit it seems like
steel flame
You could have given him the fog repeller
spice veldt
i'd like some other lighting source other than "lol bring a weapon with a torch" (because Ogryns don't exist amirite)
or... attachment system wink wink
steel flame
i'd like some other lighting source other than "lol bring a weapon with a torch"...
That's all I want really
steel flame
But that's...... Too immeasurably complex
spice veldt
just another example of a rushed execution that could've used more time in the oven to make them more unique
because as it stands, they're just two visibility conditions of varying degrees
clear heath
honestly i hate ventilation purge just cause it looks ugly
clear heath
it feels less like a challege and more like i'm playing the game with shittier settings
olive ember
I fucking hate fog
despise that shit
especially infection fog
such a garbo mechanic with how they designed some levels
what levle was it r6c2?
fucking literally just one guy being a fog monkey
and everyone else just afk
clear heath
More daemonhosts is at least somewhat interesting for lights out since flashlights do wake them up
Unfortunate for non-flashlight weapon users though
fog is just fog
olive ember
oh oh and then theres cocoons
restive slate
I wish there's a wandering version of Daemonhost
olive ember
maybe they'll add it in eventually
tho I feel like they would need to put in some failsafes
since the current dh need to be hit atleast twice to fully wake up
and a wandering dh i would assume would already be in a half awake state
steel flame
I wish there's a wandering version of Daemonhost
Who hurt you and why must you now inflict that on others
olive ember
which would mean something dumb like a bolter round aoe could set em off
spice veldt
would be actual chaos since we can't route enemies as easily as we can in L4D2
steel flame
Rando can't even dodge a stationary daemon host. I'm sure the a moving daemon host won't cause any problems
olive ember
they should just make a stealth gamemode where if you set it up
infinite hordes
10/10
suffering
weak herald
What should I change on that ? It's the first force sword I really invested into
spice veldt
ayo t4 slaughterer
if you happen to have it, I'd personally change Uncanny Strike into Bloodthirsty
and I'd change Unyielding to +Maniac for mutants and dreg ragers
shame about the first target stat, but that can be made up for with Warp Unleashed at the very least especially after the buff
weak herald
I'll need to farm for Bloodthirsty, I don't have anything except the one that can make you deflect projectiles iirc
spice veldt
Force Sword doesn't benefit too much from Uncanny Strike except against carapace or for its lights, and that's specifically about their normals; and we have the special to demolish any armor, so feel free to change that blessing to whatever you like
rocky cedar
Or....now hear me out.....put torches on every weapon and give flashlights for p...
A torch is unironically extremely preferable over the staff special we have
weak herald
Roger that ! Thank you kind person
restive slate
and a wandering dh i would assume would already be in a half awake state
Maybe the same as stationary DH, triggering it will stop it in its tracks as it does its spasms thing
olive ember
maybe
well either way
lets wait for our worse FS to come out first
and then we'll go from there
restive slate
Normal FS already is pretty vertical in lights
spice veldt
like the combat blade with short arcs on its lights
restive slate
But if it has a specific combo with a good cleave, that'd be the dream
spice veldt
heavy->light 👀
olive ember
Maybe the same as stationary DH, triggering it will stop it in its tracks as it ...
Also that would be cheese now I’d think about it you could just shoot it in a corner to make it useless
Or a guy could troll and shoot it in the middle of a doorway or wte
restive slate
To counter, it will calm down and go back to wandering mode
spice veldt
it means that I can QQ cancel the 1st heavy
it's the dream
or it'll come out immediately after a push when every enemy is staggered
followed by a quick light back into the push again
restive slate
Achlys H1 spam with Bromentum?
spice veldt
except with hopefully better cleave distribution
olive ember
It’s single target
spice veldt
last time i tested, achlys H1 did like 13 minimum cleave damage if I remember correctly
olive ember
I don’t have high hopes for the cleave
spice veldt
yup, witness the cleave distribution of the Achlys h1
no wait that's the h2
here it is
restive slate
How about the Atrox?
olive ember
Single target jazz hands
wide tiger
I'm just not sure why FS felt the need to release a more single target FS
but i will reserve judgement until its released
and i try it
maybe its special activation will be different/unique
olive ember
I won’t it’s going to be shitttt
restive slate
At least it looks nice
olive ember
Super duper shiiiittttttttt reeeee
spice veldt
How about the Atrox?
oof; three target hard cap on their heavies for all TAxes
olive ember
It’s a thrusting weapons with HOOKS on the end
spice veldt
better to do lights with TAxes if brumo is up since their min cleave damage is 33
weak herald
I wish there was a 2handed force sword tbh
cyan notch
I haven't found a Taxe with good cleaving lights
mk4 but heavies are single target
mk7 has decent swipes on light 2 and 3
restive slate
Even Limbsplitter Bromentum combo isn't advisable?
wide tiger
I wish there was a 2handed force sword tbh
Me toooo
spice veldt
me 3
weak herald
That's my psyker dream tbh
wide tiger
Fs hears you. Enjoy your stab sword
spice veldt
as long as we don't get a doodoo move like the 2nd light on the Obscurus
then I shall remain at peace with a single-target FS
near wyvern
What should I change on that ? It's the first force sword I really invested into
Check damage breakdown, you wanna hit at least 150 with lights vs infested heads (the first two). Bonus points for getting 200 vs unarmoured heads and 300 vs infested heads with heavies.
But with slaughterer all you really need is those 150 infested lights and you are good to go.
weak herald
Check damage breakdown, you wanna hit at least 150 with lights vs infested heads...
144 with lights sadly, guess it's the first target stat that's not optimal at all
near wyvern
144 with lights sadly, guess it's the first target stat that's not optimal at al...
Can be fixed with either +groaner poxwalkers damage or +infested as a perk
Unyielding is bosses, Reaper heads and Bulwarks so maybe roll that away. The special hits reapers and bulwarks hard enough even without it.
zealous sierra
Is the staff considered ranged weapon kill?
near wyvern
Is the staff considered ranged weapon kill?
Yes
fiery atlas
I love force sword but dueling sword is aight
Make it available on other classes imo
Give psyker more force weaponry
spice veldt
new force staff pl0x
cold geode
That's a Lotta bullets
spice veldt
they must've fixed that a while back
just tried to do that in the meatgrinder and you can't block attacks that come soon after a guardbreak anymore
drifting arrow
what do we think? i not sure about the second blessing
safe crystal
Good as is, just change the blessing to headtaker or decimator
cold geode
Decimator imo
drifting arrow
dont have that blessing ...
safe crystal
Its fine to keep as is tbh, its a very good axe. It just gets better if you have one of the blessings mentioned
inland sand
whos' excited for the new force sword
which sounds very similar to the current force sword
spice veldt
woohoo something new to grind for :(
i'm fine with a change of pace as long as it has the special
better have something new instead of just different attack combos tho
humble star
So is surge blessing on Trauma staff pretty much useless?
wish it worked with the charge blast on crit
safe crystal
I cant test it myself, but from what others have said, it only works on staff LMB
So yes, its not great
humble star
tier 4 blessing only btw
inland sand
does running All or Nothing on a Taxe hit any worthwhile breakpoints on staves?
with 6 WCs and lvl 4 all or nothing u can get 29% damage extra, but does that matter
safe crystal
I think 6 charges lets you 2 BB crushers on damnation, thats about it
If you also run lacerations
humble star
do you guys run lacerations? or is QoL of communion what you prefer
safe crystal
I dont, its usually a toss up between communion and CDR aura
olive ember
I do when i'm using gun psyker kekw
spice veldt
I prefer Aura and take flayer as my lvl25
runic stream
might be a really really stupid question but
i didnt like the flamethrower in zealot it havent felt good it was like melting crowds with no effort or so visuals isnt enough
psyker has some similar abilities too
the point is flamethrower feels like your bursting fire into a wall
i dont even know if i killed stuff until i stop firing
no sound or no hit effect at all
will i like the psyker
safe crystal
It would look the same, only blue this time. I personally feel like its a bit easier to see if things die inside the purgatus fire, but could just be my settings, and tbf, i havent used purgatus in a while, after getting a well-rolled bowling ball staff. You dont have access to the zealot 'press F to instantly melt anything inside', but you get access to BB instead, letting you deal with threats way before they get in range
runic stream
It would look the same, only blue this time. I personally feel like its a bit ea...
oh so its more like long ranged class
well with that i wouldnt really see any hit animation or dying animations and thats what i like the most about game
safe crystal
More like you trade max range for the ability to deal with things way beyond flamer reach. Purg has a max range of 16m, flamer is somewhere 20+. BB has unlimited range, as long as you can see it, you can BB it
leaden thunder
if you like seeing the hit animations you'll probably like the truama staff
which can somehow cut people in half sometimes
safe crystal
Trauma is truly eye-candy
runic stream
i dont really like dealing with crowds
i want to deal with elites mostly
cuz thats only the time i feel like i have done something
runic stream
yeah
lethal folio
Then bring gun.
olive ember
i mean if you want to kill things any staff besides the surge staff will do but yeah
psyker staffs are all kinda CC/horde clear
safe crystal
Trauma does ok damage to most elites and specialists, if you're determined to deal with them using your staff. Bonus points for trauma doing ok damage to monstrosities as well, because its considered explosive damage, and they take extra damage
olive ember
I mean if you want to kill elites I'd say probably trauma or purge I guess?
trauma is a bit jank but provides consistent CC to knock ragers n maulers on their ass
purge kills them more consistently but short range and you said you didn't like flamer
runic stream
yeah i dont like long range weapons that looks like flamer too
i have no problem with the color tho i love orange
olive ember
🤔
I mean long range wise none of psykers staffs are particularly long range
besides the voidstrike
but the voidstrike is mostly horde killing with some CC attached for maulers n shotgunners
fiery atlas
i want to deal with elites mostly
you deal with them using brain burst
safe crystal
Anyways, i'd say you would enjoy trauma more than purgatus, based on how your described.
olive ember
if you want to trivialize mutants, bursters, and dogs take surge
oh but those thunderheads in zealot chat will resent you for ruining their perfectly timed attack
safe crystal
yeah i dont like long range weapons that looks like flamer too
Does this look like something you'd like? Basically anything within the glowing circle gets the same treatment, so you can use it to deal with mixed hordes. It has a invisible AoE beyond that that does way less damage, but still staggers, and applies all on-hit effects. You can see the flamer die to a flayer proc while i killed the rager, for example
forest coral
psyker lacks the ability to dump burst damage
like zeal and vet can
tho u could argue autopistol psyker might be onto something there
safe crystal
What would we dump it onto, though?
fiery atlas
tho u could argue autopistol psyker might be onto something there
sorry i'm a FS only main
leaden thunder
your mother
fiery atlas
safe crystal
~~your mother~~
You got me there 
leaden thunder
forest coral
oh no
olive ember
This guy lmao
leaden thunder
olive ember
But yeah Psyker need super buffs
If I can’t kill shooter packs with impunity is my class even balanced?
safe crystal
BB needs to hit everything within 10m of the main target, or we cant possibly play above sedition
forest coral
psyker simply isnt doing this as quickly
fiery atlas
BB needs to hit everything within 10m of the main target, or we cant possibly pl...
there's the soulblaze thing
but that depends
if you made it work on specials it'd probably be much better
safe crystal
It needs to apply 30 stacks on everything within 20m of the target
olive ember
Really if you think about it why doesn’t BB cause max stacks of bleed
forest coral
and quite honestly i dunno how you'd balance it
olive ember
I’d assume bursting a brain is major bleeding
forest coral
i dunno what pysker has in their kit outside of soulblaze and ascendant that can come anywhere close to that
fiery atlas
I’d assume bursting a brain is major bleeding
it doesn't do that
it makes the enemies shit their pants so hard they fall over and start crying
potent echo
with the scoreboard mod i can tell that even the most mid of vet players will get top offensive score all the time
just give them an autogun and counterfire
even bolter and the reload one works
forest coral
basically
its stupidly easy if they can actually aim
and not miss weakspots as a camo lasgunner
potent echo
most of the vet players i played with are so carried by their kit they just fall apart when things go wrong
fiery atlas
with the scoreboard mod i can tell that even the most mid of vet players will ge...
it's because of their ult
fiery atlas
it's got such a low cooldown and increases their ranged dmg by 50%
potent echo
yea their ult has insane damage potential and it lasts forever*
forest coral
ye
fiery atlas
i just kinda sit back and hit headshots when possible
potent echo
camo enjoyers rise up
forest coral
lvl 30 traits on vet are so good
fiery atlas
camo is the sniper, ye?
forest coral
all 3 are effective
potent echo
i run camo plasma vet to the chagrin of all the pubs lol
summer prairie
camo is complete trash
potent echo
yea it is
forest coral
if i feel like meming, i run auto counterfire
forest coral
Revolver+ sustained fire is surprisingly decent
potent echo
autogun/pistol with counterfire just dunks on everything else
fiery atlas
bolter obvs is hard carry weapon
potent echo
bolter works well if you already have a counterfire autogun
fiery atlas
can run white bolter and the thing dumps damage
potent echo
if your team is three purge psykers and 1 bolter vet ranged enemies gonna run wild
forest coral
to even keep up remotely
potent echo
literally nothing
olive ember
if your team is three purge psykers and 1 bolter vet ranged enemies gonna run wi...
To be fair idk why you would be running 3 purge kek
potent echo
sometimes it happens in pubs lol
cause the game still doesnt let you see pub loadouts
olive ember
That’s why ya ask first
I always make a point to ask tho tbh I just meme and bring gun psyker anyways
potent echo
no one does any asking in my region lmao they probably dont even speak english
gunker actually really good now with the warp charge buff
fiery atlas
I always make a point to ask tho tbh I just meme and bring gun psyker anyways
you don't need to know many pub loadouts until you see a zealot pull out that fucking flamer
and then you seethe with an inhuman rage
potent echo
isnt zealot flamer really good though
summer prairie
there's a mod that lets you see their ranged weapons
forest coral
ye, tbh purg kb or purg ab psykers can still carry pretty hard
potent echo
its way better than purg
fiery atlas
it's so good that it makes you want to vomit
forest coral
Zealot flamer makes purg look like discount flamer
olive ember
you don't need to know many pub loadouts until you see a zealot pull out that fu...
Remember I’m a surge staff main
potent echo
there's a mod that lets you see their ranged weapons
oh? gotta look into it
olive ember
In fact if I see one of those fucking bolter zealots I tilt
leaden thunder
makes the game boring
fiery atlas
they hog ammo and use it every chance they get
potent echo
oh you mean you dont get to fight any hordes
fiery atlas
yes
potent echo
welp
olive ember
That’s literally any zealot
fiery atlas
it's absolutely annoying
leaden thunder
I mean a not brain dead one shouldn't ever run out of ammo
olive ember
Doesn’t matter what gun
potent echo
flamer zealot only runs out because he dumps an entire mag into 5 poxwalkers
forest coral
Bolter zealot used cleverly covers most situations
imo its probably one of the best quickjoin set ups
potent echo
bolter zealot with the maul?
leaden thunder
disgustang
forest coral
bolter, hs
leaden thunder
crusher
potent echo
oh yea hs
leaden thunder
potent echo
i like maul though it plays the game for you
forest coral
hs with headtaker and rampage is literally just a melee ranged blender for everything except carapace and bulwarks
olive ember
Fucking thunderheads don’t appreciate my surge staff
potent echo
imagine dodging or managing mixed hordes when you can press the special button
olive ember
So now I only play with hswords
lethal folio
It just can't kill anything.
leaden thunder
if the maul didn't have the worst blessing pool in the game
forest coral
charge, bonk
potent echo
yea you become the CC bot
leaden thunder
it'd be more acceptable
potent echo
thats kind of what playing zealot should be like
fiery atlas
charge into horde and turn everything into tomato juice
that's what zealots canonically do
no military training
just run in and bash everything they see
potent echo
but then again the ranged enemy shooting you from 3 meters away
olive ember
dont let surge psykers hear you though
I’d like to watch them CC 3 mutants 2 poxbursters and a hound
fiery atlas
but then again the ranged enemy shooting you from 3 meters away
zealot ult and sliding ignores ranged
forest coral
^
leaden thunder
as a zealot main I can confirm I am just a random crack head they gave a sword
potent echo
oh yea zealot has that 0% dmage modifier
forest coral
also being hyper aggressive zealot has one benefit to it
fiery atlas
you can actually do some fancy maneuvering and close the gap as a zealot
and even as a psyker
forest coral
where you can turn an entire horde of shooters
into not shooters
where they look at u confused with their shovels out
olive ember
When was @leaden thunder a zealot main
potent echo
I’d like to watch them CC 3 mutants 2 poxbursters and a hound
yea if there arent any horde enemies nearby
olive ember
I thought he played ogryn
fiery atlas
I’d like to watch them CC 3 mutants 2 poxbursters and a hound
hehe zap
leaden thunder
I main zealot and ogryn
olive ember
Ah the two useless special classes
forest coral
i was unsure who to main
and decided it would be the class that got the penances done first
well, zealot won that one
forest coral
yeah i still dont have malice kms penance done
xD
and i finished malleus monstronum
and true that
fiery atlas
yeah i still dont have malice kms penance done
oh you mean the warp peril elite thing
forest coral
ye
honest frigate
I need to do malleus monstronum and going out with a bang but i got no friends to do it with so shrug
Penances in this game are so stupid
leaden thunder
psyker and vet ones are pretty bad, ogryn has a one that is bad as well
other then the speed run one the zealot ones are pretty easy
olive ember
I mean the speed one run was cheesable at one point
honest frigate
Is there a server on discord thats dedicated to helping ppl with penances or something
forest coral
Zealot speedrun one is fun af to do
ornate hamlet
dont let surge psykers hear you though
hardly any exist anymore
honest frigate
I really want to be done with this
olive ember
By just barreling yourself down and then afking before dying
forest coral
Is there a server on discord thats dedicated to helping ppl with penances or som...
Can only really ask in the lfg
olive ember
hardly any exist anymore
I EXIST
fiery atlas
by far the worst one i've managed to achieve
honest frigate
Can only really ask in the lfg
Sucks
leaden thunder
I am still just happy I got out with a bang on my vet
olive ember
I just play auto pistol on malice nowadays cuz nothing to do in game
honest frigate
by far the worst one i've managed to achieve
Atleast you can solo that
You cant solo malleus monstronum
forest coral
Malleus monstronum for me required getting friendly with people on this discord to agree to coordinate a heresy run for it
I think that’s the hardest part of it
After that it was just finding a boss and kiting circles around an area bbing until boss died
olive ember
I mean easier way is to get a shieldgryn and just find a dh
forest coral
That’s the supposed easier way ye
sonic coral
how exactly do I get the knocking people off ledge thing? I feel like it should be really easy yet in all my hours, I've only got 5 not 7.
forest coral
But for me, bon bon came first
forest coral
how exactly do I get the knocking people off ledge thing? I feel like it should ...
i cheesed at chasm logistratum starting area
honest frigate
Can confirm chasm logistratum is good for this
olive ember
And then force sword push attacks
Yeah I got mine back when achieve was 20 enemies at the chasm logistratum catwalk
sonic coral
So everything counts too, F, FS push?
forest coral
cyan notch
hab dreyko is good too
olive ember
Yeah
forest coral
I think f push mainly
sonic coral
Alright, sounds like chasm logistratum might be the best bet to start
fiery atlas
https://youtu.be/Su22pMzqbhU
you can also do finger roll with force sword
and then use the full push attack
forest coral
Ah fair
fiery atlas
fingerrolling stuns trash hordes infinitely and then full push attack knocks them over
olive ember
It’s still easier with friends btw
olive ember
I tilted hard doing it solo, grabbed some friends who held block and let the horde pile up
Pressed F and called it a day
forest coral
It took me 3 tries I think
honest frigate
It took me like 20 tries with a group of players
Thank god im done with it
Shitty psyker penances
Not gonna lie
sonic coral
I don't even want to think about the trying to detonate 3 elites
forest coral
Vet ones are challenging to do toward the end
Psyker is straight up griefing ur team
honest frigate
Zealot legit has okay penances all throughout
forest coral
Zealot legit has okay penances all throughout
like they made sense to the playstyle
honest frigate
Psyker is 50% being a nuisance to the team and 50% rng/borderline impossible
What were the devs smokjng
forest coral
Devs were being lore accurate to the psykers
olive ember
We all wonder that every day
forest coral
Punishing them for existing
honest frigate
Would any of you perchance be able to help me with malleus montronum around the specified time? #vox-lfg-emea
I can help you back
stuck sinew
by far the worst one i've managed to achieve
This one is pretty easy if you just precharge
stuck sinew
does soul blaze count as a warp attack?
Bold of you to assume intuitively-working stats when Fatshark is involved
sonic coral
the guessing game is real
safe crystal
It doesnt get extra damage from warp unleashed, though
Or do i remember the talent wrong?
clear heath
the game is inconsistent when it says warp attack
safe crystal
Damn, its been too long
clear heath
it's a warp attack for toughness on warp kill, and a non-warp source for lacerations
pretty funny
leaden thunder
lacerations is all damage now
clear heath
or was i guess
olive ember
It doesnt get extra damage from warp unleashed, though
warp unleashed is force weapon
BB isn't a force weapon
but its a warp attack
mossy bobcat
does trauma do extrea damage to some armor type ?
feels like extra to flak
but idk
lethal folio
only 75% to infested, 100% to everything else.
lethal folio
It doesn't help you do things with the trauma, but it's the best way of applying it for the team out there.
olive ember
Rending shockwave?
It’s meta cuz it helps your team deal damage to armor
And none of the other blessings besides warp flurry is that good on trauma
mossy bobcat
then I have the best blessings, thanks :)
leaden thunder
idk the exact stacking but it goes to like 20%
clear heath
Pretty sure it stacks like warp nexus does
so a stack at like, 30% 50% 97% 97%
that's not a typo
shut ether
Classic Thicc gubby
viral solstice
ye but its amazing on force sword
because u special to 100% peril
safely
so its just 20% power on ur roided specials
ornate hamlet
What would be the best perk to compliment infested enemies? Would it be Maniacs?
wide tiger
probably unarmored
ornate hamlet
Had to replace a tier two perk
fallow meadow
Dump stat on shredder?
shadow quail
thoughts?
leaden thunder
Dump stat on shredder?
mobility
collateral governs stagger
which is important for pinning fire
wide tiger
shield ogryn and level 23 psyker friends in my t5 assassination, anyone wanna guess their combined damage total at the end
clear heath
shield ogryn and level 23 psyker friends in my t5 assassination, anyone wanna gu...
gonna guess 50k for shield ogryn and 70k for the psyker
wide tiger
overestimated the level 23 "only BB" psyker
north cradle
Do Assassination targets count as Monstrosities?
clear heath
yeah
restive talon
which was the best combat axe for psyker again? antrax 5?
runic stream
first game of psyker was pretty fun
popping heads of elites is way more fun than i expected
hope it gets better
dawn crypt
What are the ideal blessings for surge staves
kind jay
flurry and nexus (though flurry i think is currently bugged on surge)
dawn crypt
yea I heard from someone that it doesnt work
so what else would be ideal until future patch fix?
kind jay
well its either run and gun, barrage, or focused channeling
none of them really do a whole lot for the staff
kind jay
focused might be best for those "that shotgunner just fired at the same time as me" situations
i dont think suppression is any good because blind firing primary into a group scatters them anyways
dawn crypt
ya lightning stun
i guess i ll just leave it alone and wait for patch
i already have the crit based on peril one
kind jay
probably for the best. save resources
dawn crypt
i try to save resources at least. using restraint is hard =p
fierce sinew
beam staff the original meme staff
dawn crypt
surge staff has less blessing options than other staves
dusky bear
rng is just refusing to be nice to me
stable hare
Played 2-3 missions with my newly unlocked purgatus staff and i kinda got dizzy from all the blue flame light 
Btw, whats the curio meta for psykers?
north cradle
I like using Max Health blessings with DR/Gunner or DR/Sniper, Toughness Regen, and your choice of third
I'm using Corruption Resist on mine in case of Poxwalkers, Poxbursters, or Grimoires
stable hare
corruption resist doesnt work on grimoires
north cradle
That got patched finally?
stable hare
what about toughness and hp perks?
you mean there was a bug? have no idea then
shouldnt work
north cradle
It shouldn't work, but it does. And funny enough, Corruption Resist (Grimoires) does virtually nothing
still hearth
Toughness and HP perks are kinda tiny.
still hearth
It's at most 3.6s per ult, not amazing
I like one stamina regen since it lets you regen some before slide ends on duelling sword. Toughness regen is dope. Sniper resistance saves run once in a while, revive speed helps a lot in bad situations
No matter what you do sometimes snipers just shoot you without warning
still hearth
There's been talks about it and apparently you can but only if you don't run Kinetic Deflection and it targets you
Idk if that's still true
fierce sinew
I keep making a mental note to test that and I never do
north cradle
What a beaut this is. It's five swings per activation now, is it?
As opposed to the old seven?
idle bay
I was hunting for it, but at some point realised that i do not really need that much swings..
There is another T4 for it that also good
Though i have not idea how much is that "Increased Cleave" Feels like old one with Infinite Cleave
Though i must admit Combo of those two rare T4 (Sunder + Power Cycler) will something interesting to look for 🙂
Though like it ever gonna happen ? 🙂
Another 5000 plasteel to the dump and no Power Cycler 🙂 I like when games 100% matches the expectations
north cradle
I have both Sunder and Power Cycler, the kicker is getting both on a single weapon
fierce sinew
sunder seems like an omega waste of a slot
north cradle
Had a feeling
idle bay
sunder sucks
Point is to have 2 super rare T4 omn single weapon 🙂
leaden thunder
it can roll brutal momentum
idle bay
Not to both of them be good 🙂
north cradle
I do love me my Supercharge
leaden thunder
I mean fair enough
fierce sinew
the powerful thing about the power sword is that has dummy cleave already, so you can just go all in on damage
viral solstice
if u want more cleave u just run slaughterer power cycler surely
cos thats more cleave and more damage
and more jort
north cradle
I feel like I deal enough damage that Slaughterer would be redundant, so Supercharge helps with Bulwarks and Crushers
leaden thunder
it doesn't
not that much
sluaghterer will make you kill them faster then supercharge ever will
north cradle
Go figure
wide tiger
psyker chat is power sword chat?!
viral solstice
power jord
north cradle
What a beaut
I take it Cleave Targets is the dump stat as opposed to Mobility like most other melee weapons that aren't Duelling Sword?
wide tiger
nah its just what i got
but i really dont notice it tbh
and i do like having mobility on it, cause the mobility on psword is ass
viral solstice
u need power fish
north cradle
Yes that's why I asked if Cleave Targets is the dump stat
near wyvern
I am confused, we are veterans now?
idle bay
Veteran chat is more damaging to one's mind then gazing into Warp
And as sweat-lords we are - only psykers know to play Vets correctly.
There are still Vets that think that Kentrael XII is top gun in the game....poor karkers
And ones that think that it's impossible to play vet without camo feat - otherwise they loose ability to aim
stable silo
if i take away my camo perk il explode IRL thats what the youtube video told me
vernal frost
There are still Vets that think that Kentrael XII is top gun in the game....poor...
what's the deal with this server and saying xii is not top tier
leaden thunder
like it's good
it's good at taking out shooters at long ranges
but it isn't super great in close quarters
which is
90% of spaces
idle bay
what's the deal with this server and saying xii is not top tier<:Wut:73695254147...
It's way too slow. There are guns that do it's job a lot better than MK XII and they are not lasguns 🙂
leaden thunder
but gun balance on the top end at least it's hard to pick a clear winner
other thne like
the flamer
becuase it's op
idle bay
It's noobie crutch to be honest
There is no gun balance 🙂 There are some great OP guns and there are pretenders that remove users cognitive ability to even think that gun they are using is not that great and they need just to check few more different ones
leaden thunder
that's why I said on the top end
like the best stuff is all pretty close
but the bad stuff is shit
idle bay
Kentrael La just inch away from greatness but some karkery with it that makes in weaker than it should.
idle bay
A moment
leaden thunder
tbh i'd prefer using either of those over the xii but they all have such dogshit hipfire I can't enjoy using thme anymore
idle bay
leaden thunder
middle ground one then
idle bay
That one. It give a best vibes - in accuracy and rate of fire and overall comfort. But something horrbly wrong with it';s damage
leaden thunder
like I said I'd use it over the xii if they all didn't have terrible hipfire
well
I don't use the xii either
idle bay
On paper numbers are good - in game it;s like shooting a with laser pointer
It's literal Flashlight from tabletop memes
I'm turend into Vraks MK III maniac on vet and zealot and not changing back.. save for Vraks MK VII with proprely rolled perks
leaden thunder
I need to get better optimized ones
idle bay
Why does Braced Autoguns exist at this point if autopistols are cocaine now?
stable silo
waht do
kind jay
rebless powder to blazing and show vets how it's done?
near wyvern
Why does Braced Autoguns exist at this point if autopistols are cocaine now?
Because Psykers don't get any braced Autoguns
stable silo
1/4 psykers are heretics
steel flame
blazing is the go to for the forbidden build ?
pinning and blaze and everything dies
stable silo
reroll stam to flak ?>
steel flame
yes
idle bay
Because Psykers don't get any braced Autoguns
Thank the Omnissia that we don't - one less kind of poop to clog our pipeline of actually getting staffs.
leaden thunder
I mean
would you rather have braced auto guns or recon las guns
cuase you got one of them
leaden thunder
fair enough
tbh they shoulda only given psyker pistols gun wise and then made them all have the force push or something
idle bay
Imagine Bolt Pistol or Plasma Pistol with Force Push ? 🙂
kind jay
i honestly like the revolver but it falls off real hard past t3
leaden thunder
bolt pistol with the same blessings as the bolter
with force push on psyker
would go kinda hard
ngl
basically the same idea as the shredder
north cradle
Do you hold it gangsta style too
gaunt stone
with voidstrike is it better to do small blasts repeatedly on m2 or big charges
viral solstice
big charge because ur like
lilac tapir
Hey guys, can you remind me the perks and blessings on Surge staff? Was it Flak + Crit % for perks and WN and WF for Blessings?
idle bay
Do you hold it gangsta style too
No-no Psyker Holds Bolt Pistol next to his temple, cocked on and ready to shoot. To keep himself more motivated to use Psyhic powers properly
viral solstice
jokes aside charge the staff as much as u need
idle bay
According to how bolt amutions works - it will penetrate his scull all the way through before exploding outside
viral solstice
broadly if ur unsure a lil over half is fine to get decent value yeeting at some poxies or shooters or whatever
idle bay
Another idea that FS will never adopt: changing Staff specials into some action that hurts Psyker a bit and in return gives him temporary buff
viral solstice
why not change staff specials into some action that heals psyker a bit and in return gives him a temporary buff u ever think psykers are getting hurt enough already
idle bay
Or quickly veting Peril , faster than active quell but with self damage
wide tiger
I really feel like all the staves need their baseline damage upped
esp primary fire on the 3
idle bay
I really feel like all the staves need their baseline damage upped
Any Psyker buff will come with Faustian deal kind of nerf.
Buffed base damage for staffs? Sure. But now you can't slide
Balance ™
cold geode
Special action on staves should be slamming the staff into the ground for a short range aoe knock back
kind jay
i think staff special should summon a commissar that just shoots you in the head
viral solstice
i think staff special should summon a friend and u get to just hang out and get some beers
or just like lemonade
i think loner psyker needs lemonade
and then morrow shows up and he tells u about the necron beetle in his head and he buys beers and then u wake up and its the next day and hadron is yelling at u
cold geode
or maybe you just vomit and shit yourself then fall over and repeatedly tell everyone your sorry
kind jay
make it projectile diarrhea and have it do a cc and we'll call it even
cold geode
maybe we just pull all of the poo out of the surrounding enemies and then throw it at them
wide tiger
Special action on staves should be slamming the staff into the ground for a shor...
I like that "You shall not pass"
cold geode
gandalf the fuck out of some heretics
viral solstice
stable silo
pinning and blaze away were the perks u wanted for auto pistol right?
product complete mostly
stable silo
anyone remember what the feats were for autopistol heretical psyker?
viral solstice
theres no achievement for picking up grims is there
just had somebody leave because i picked one up and he said "I need to pick it up"?
stable silo
its for weekly but anyone can pick it up pretty sure
viral solstice
ye
viral solstice
i was pretty sure he was just confused lol
stable silo
weekly quest to pick up grims or scriptures
it resets in like 2 hours so hes down to the wirwe
kind jay
sounds like he doesn't know progress is team wide
wide tiger
When you do perk reroll mod whats the ranged crit chance perk
Increase critical strike chance by or just critical hit chance
ornate hamlet
I have gotten the funny ranged block on force sword and equipped the talent or feat or whatever that uses peril for blocking
I am John Star Wars
I also am using the funny laser pistol to quickswap and do headshots
I wonder how long I'd last pulling that pussy shit in damnation
wide tiger
depends how good you are at dodging and hiding 😄
ornate hamlet
Guess I'll find out in 9 levels and 300 hours of grinding one roll on a weapon
wide tiger
nothing pussy about pulling out a gun and quickshotting someones nuts in the middle of a sword fight
ornate hamlet
I bet they'll eat my peril, at least
Right now I got that and 2 stamina curios, because funny force shielf
D
Fuck veterans and ogryns, I'm the real tank here
wide tiger
olive ember
anyone remember what the feats were for autopistol heretical psyker?
I mean you can run a standard gun psyker build or a specific ascendant blaze build for autopistol
cold geode
we can be poomancers
olive ember
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/98ad11dc-060e-480c-b556-577da42bdf62/au...
decent build but it uses knife
also more importantly don't rly need communion imo
olive ember
lmao
cold geode
@rocky cedar made it i think
wide tiger
Melk disappoints!
olive ember
aye thx for reminding me
steel flame
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/98ad11dc-060e-480c-b556-577da42bdf62/au...
really though. dont agree with most of those feats
olive ember
daily shitpicks
steel flame
wrack and laceration fit shredder much better than tranquility and communion
wide tiger
it doesnt suck on barrage
olive ember
warp resist is better when it matters
steel flame
it really doesnt. its really easy to get 18-21 stacks of soublaze going
wide tiger
you do a bulwark or a crusher 2-3x and you spread enough soulblaze to get a lot of soulblaze on the enemies around em
ornate hamlet
I have uhhhh
olive ember
alot of enemies around them? then someone isn't doing their job
steel flame
....
olive ember
well anyways
wide tiger
Whos job is it to kill the enemies behind the bulwarks?
olive ember
wide tiger
isnt that psykers job
olive ember
only half decent weapon
ornate hamlet
Toughness on warp charge, peril resist per charge, I don't fucking remember and peril for stamina
Oh yeah, charge on enemy kill within aura
wide tiger
he probably runs warp resist for KD
olive ember
peril resist is better 100% of the time if you are using the staff
olive ember
unless you are using voidstrike
steel flame
but we are using a gun dummy
olive ember
and if you are using a gun then peril resist is only better 95% of the time
wide tiger
def not lol
olive ember
it is
ornate hamlet
I'm intending on getting the headpop on attack and then swapping peril resist on charge for warpfire on headpop
wide tiger
and the rest of the time you're not realling peril'ing
olive ember
it makes general use of BB better, and makes barrage BB even better
steel flame
only thing you nered peril on is KB and all you get is one more BB
ornate hamlet
Provided they work together
olive ember
wrack and ruin is a meme that has like one use
and thats it
and that one use isn't even good
ornate hamlet
Aw
olive ember
wow I can kill the trash in a 3 meter radius next to the targets I want to kill
it only takes 2 BB to do so
ornate hamlet
Doesn't the fire CC?
wide tiger
and watch all the shooters, gunners, and everything else around them
no thats not true lol
olive ember
it really is
steel flame
you bb twice and youve just reached localized 6stack ab stacks, then you can keep going and melt the rest of the wave with 6-9 more stacks, i dont see how thats bad
olive ember
it is
wide tiger
I mean you're wrong, sorry
I only use it on the gunker but it definitely puts in the work when you're barraging
steel flame
for WHAT
wide tiger
lol
I guarantee you ask him why he runs warp resist its to augment KD because he prefers melee
not because "I get one more BB during barrage"
olive ember
also i know you are wrong
wide tiger
One BB = single target, wrack and ruin aoe on everything around the reapers
olive ember
because 6 stacks doesn't kill shotgunners lmao
wide tiger
or the bulwarks
steel flame
that....thats it?
steel flame
because 6 stacks doesn't kill shotgunners lmao
shredder go brrrrr beech
i dont need it to kill shotgunners
olive ember
one moment you are talking about how it kills shotgunners
wide tiger
its an aoe versus single target option
olive ember
and the next moment it doesn't matter
steel flame
im very confused now
normal sequoia
This thing worth buying on the Psyker? I've never tried a Gun psyker build before and I been hearing how the shredder is now stupid strong with these blessings 
wide tiger
This thing worth buying on the Psyker? I've never tried a Gun psyker build befor...
pretty nice
wide tiger
at the very least you get meltable blessings
normal sequoia
you could do better on perks
yeah, wish it was Flak/Maniac. 😦 Any recommendations on what should I change? reload speed to flak I guess?
olive ember
and I'm using AB 6 stacks, its worse on wrack and ruin since you don't stack 6 immediately
wide tiger
why do you have 0 warp charges
well
okay so you dont like AB with 6 charges, not wrack and ruin lol
wide tiger
its also 9 stacks for a 3 reaper BB
i feel like you're just not listening, and thats your choice
run warp resist
viral solstice
melk has a voidstrike
wide tiger
all i can say is, I find it incredibly useful as an aoe option to soften or even eliminate enemies around armored hordes or reaper hordes
wide tiger
TGerrifying barraaage
viral solstice
melkus pls
wide tiger
and
viral solstice
i cant go below 3k melkcoins
wide tiger
where i can put anything i want
viral solstice
my current fs is better
wide tiger
i cant go below 3k melkcoins
3.2k
viral solstice
and has locked 12.5% slaughterer
wide tiger
fair nuff
olive ember
yeah no
viral solstice
waiting for bloodthirsty
olive ember
peril resist is better
viral solstice
steel flame
my favorite thing with wrack is for the alpha strike. i see 4 ogryns in a horde, rub my hands together then put 15 stacks of SB on the horde from the next zipcode over
olive ember
wrack and ruin is a niche use case that isn't good
olive ember
Lmao show me that amazing wrack and ruin in action
viral solstice
melkus big scam
wide tiger
Sure join a game with me
olive ember
give me a clip of it burning a whole 3 meters around it
wide tiger
I have the benefit of a health bars mod so i get to see what it does when I bb a bulwark push or reaper horde, or even a crusher group
i love peril resist on force staves, especially with warp battery
but without staves and warp battery, its only use is KD
its just not very good, even if you think wrack and ruin is garbage
olive ember
Everytime you BB you benefit from peril resist
wide tiger
I guess if you're running a gunker and using BB a ton you might get some mileage out of it
olive ember
Theres a reason why people took warp resist to begin with
its because BB is 45% peril base
olive ember
lmao
olive ember
you are literally taking the least effective perk in the tree
wide tiger
k man
olive ember
for some sparks and fireworks
wide tiger
I dont need one more BB during barrage, so 1 damage is more effective than zero
the resist does nothing else for me, because i barely have to manage peril
because im playing a gun psyker
spice veldt
not that you need inner tranq to do BBs before flayer runs out
olive ember
its like two more BB under barrage which is one extra reaper
and horde is literally the least important aspect in the game
and shooters spread out
wide tiger
3 bbs for me on a reaper
olive ember
you can maybe kill 2 shooters with blaze
forest coral
The only time i found wrack sort of ok is in dense mixed hordes on KB builds
wide tiger
yeah thats what i keep saying 😛
when you barrage into an armored horde with ragers, gunners, shooters, etc
olive ember
your "oh I can apply 15 stacks" assume your teammates are literal bots just staring at the crushers
wide tiger
How many games do you pub where your allies just stare at bulwarks chasing them down
olive ember
so even in your niche use case
it barely should happen
unless you have garbo teammates
especially with all the autopistol zealots, thunderhammer zealots, plasma/bolter vets running around nowadays
wide tiger
Ive been using it with the shredder autopistol and my gun psyker build in general and have gotten tons of mileage out of it
i play pub 5's
steel flame
Disengage shaleek, his delusions have progressed too far, HE CANT BE REASONED WITH
wide tiger
Yeah we're just gonna agree to disagree
ornate hamlet
Tbh the shredder seems to be good in any form
olive ember
Ive been using it with the shredder autopistol and my gun psyker build in genera...
what a coincidence so do I
ornate hamlet
I fear the gun might be carrying the build more than the build is complementing the gun
olive ember
also shredder doesn't mean much anyways
wide tiger
Well awesome, i respect your opinion even though it differs from my own
olive ember
when we are discussing wrack and ruin vs peril resist
steel flame
🍿
olive ember
eh sure we can drop it until the next person asks for a gunker build ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wide tiger
will be up to them to try both and see for themselves just like we did
lethal folio
wide tiger
yesss
thats the nest
to be honest the health bars mod really helps with that
sometimes i'll do one bulwark, and switch to the second, and then switch back to the first and that little soulblaze will put me over the breakpoint if i dont have my warp charges up
olive ember
agree to disagree I guess
its not like he had 3 teammates with auto guns also spraying into the horde
spice veldt
the point isn't that it demolished the horde but that it helped a bit
wide tiger
Yeah team mates exist, and change things sometimes, cant deny that
spice veldt
not that it's a be all and end all but it at the very least does something
and it's more AoE than inner tranq
something something pros and cons
wide tiger
duuude fantastic
well
i saw the perks
but slaughterer 4 baseline is super versatile
olive ember
Eh block eff is good for deflector