#psyker-class

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clear heath
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maybe whoever did the balancing for perks didn't actually know

viral solstice
supple skiff
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dont think its worth the mats at this point

gilded viper
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so that why no one like crit damage ever

spice veldt
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you can also paste images directly instead of saving them to cloud and pasting the links btw

wide tiger
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witchcraft

wide tiger
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well except the transfer peril

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actually the stats on the first one are kinda better

supple skiff
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think its going to come down to to whether I was that quell speed

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says its about 40% in the difference on inspect

wide tiger
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shouldnt be quelling much with xfer peril

supple skiff
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not with hordes and such no

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but I find myself needed to quell a fair bit with my playstyle outside of those moments

lucid terrace
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New force sword only for single targets ogryn_pathetic

supple skiff
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bruh

feral verge
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yeah lmao

supple skiff
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cleave thammer

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and thrust force sword

feral verge
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idk why fatshark is so uncomfortable with psyker having a decent out of the box horde clear melee

supple skiff
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as if to employ present force sword is for horde clear

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with its alt fire

rare furnace
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Cleave Thamer is vet sword disguised +1

supple skiff
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33% of the light attacks from the now we have now are thrusts KEKW_ogryn

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whatever ill still try it

feral verge
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same

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and i'll roll for a godroll on that sword

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with all my saved plasteel

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26k so far

lucid terrace
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I just want greatsword forcesword Pain

supple skiff
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dont want a second power sword on their hands I guess

rare furnace
lucid terrace
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I doubt it

cold geode
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OH LOOK ANOTHER VRAKS THANKS EMPEROR

kind jay
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fs horde clear is not bad with bloodthirst + slaughter but.. its so much work just for a fraction of what other horde clear melees can do

spice veldt
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it's still good nevertheless because the force sword has surprisingly good cleave distribution

kind jay
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its satisfying af when you chain them

spice veldt
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At 80/80 dmg/first target, heavies have a minimum bodyshot cleave damage of 40.88 against poxwalkers.
With max t3 slaughterer stacks, you're doing 66.42 to them. And there's also the 10%-25% boost from Warp Unleashed if you equip it.

rare furnace
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So what you thing our damage will be

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Double?

blazing oak
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Is anyone else annoyed that they made a weapon with a thrusting attack pattern and it isn’t a Polearm?

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Like it’s a big sword why is that the thrust weapon

rare furnace
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Long swords used to thrust armor

wide tiger
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psykers just cant stop winning

rare furnace
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The get deep

blazing oak
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Yes but they also have lots of swords

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I want spear Polearm in darktide :(

lucid terrace
leaden thunder
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I mean

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we don't know if we are

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we should

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it already has a model even and is in some promotional art

wide tiger
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Just like psyker is getting the 2h force sword right?!

rare furnace
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Imagine if the 2h FS defense attack has the cleave

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Or will it be push again

blazing oak
wide tiger
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if

rare furnace
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Ngl I wasn’t expecting thumer at all

blazing oak
rare furnace
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WAIT WAIR so that means second eviserator omg I’m gonna cry

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But it’s weird to have rhat

gilded viper
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i can't imagine a second one

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mainly cause chain weapon as a whole don't have a second mk

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i wish there was a small trailer for the new FS, kinda hype for it now to see hoiw it play, surely it not as bad as im thinking it is

void mural
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I really hope the second FS is more than just an even more single target focused FS

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The first one already sucked at horde clear, we don't need an even worse one

summer prairie
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maybe you get more than one hit per activation, then it might be decent

rare furnace
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What if it thrusts but reaches behind enemies as well like a line of sight

void mural
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Also, I'd love to have the force charge up effect do something besides chainsword, but it costs peril

spice veldt
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at least in the Psyker trailer, the 1st heavy is the 2nd heavy of our current FS mark, and the 2nd heavy was the thrust

shut ether
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Who is excited for a new Force Sword? 7776_catJAM

spice veldt
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presumably the moveset has changed since though

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if it doesn't have a diagonal combo, i'm going to shit my pants

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the 2nd light better be a diagonal/horizontal

shut ether
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Give me a horizontal strike and I'll be happy

viral solstice
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so long as it looks cool

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its good

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what more do ppl want

shut ether
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Did you see the tip? looks stabby

void mural
viral solstice
edgy hearth
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Quick question
Is it possible to get T4 blessings from upgrading whites?

viral solstice
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but looking cool is all u need

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das factual

void mural
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Lol

rare furnace
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But got max 3

gilded viper
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it beautiful

shut ether
summer prairie
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you can get a t4 from green->blue

edgy hearth
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Would like to see some datamines on this at some point

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It must be very low

viral solstice
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all server-side

summer prairie
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I don't think the chances are extremely low

shut ether
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Alas. I do not have the technical knowhow for the mines

viral solstice
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so cant see unless somebody at fatshark spices it

edgy hearth
wide tiger
leaden thunder
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same as all the data mined blessings

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those are all server side as well

summer prairie
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I haven't upgraded many and I've gotten a t4, but I only upgrade higher base rating items

edgy hearth
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Then you run out of gold

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v sad

feral verge
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what if they remove vet next patcj

wide tiger
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mine are all 360+

summer prairie
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how many did you buy

shut ether
wide tiger
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too fucking many

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like 95% from brunts, 5% from armoury

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millions upon millions of ducats

summer prairie
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yeah I figured it's way more efficient to just wait until melk gives you the ones you want

wide tiger
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I've also got 30 legendary force swords and none of them have t4 blessings

summer prairie
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though you still need to roll a good base

wide tiger
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i did get one t4 shred from melk

feral verge
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ya'll aint even ready for this godsword

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my one t4 blessing

wide tiger
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lockin that precog in

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respect the balls

summer prairie
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cursed

feral verge
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lmao

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it was my first DECENT fs legendary

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i say decent cuz it wasnt good

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but it was ok

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until i got better shit

wide tiger
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nice base stats tho

shut ether
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Right before the better FS releases KEKW_ogryn

feral verge
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nah

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i had this for weeks

wide tiger
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At the very least another FS means another variant to try and fish for blessings

feral verge
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i've been using these for a month

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the other sword was a place holder. not new

blazing oak
spice veldt
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a peril glock

wide tiger
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I kinda want them to fix blessings that dont work aka 95% of them

twilit flicker
feral verge
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there's more coming

twilit flicker
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Not saying you should believe them, but you know ... words ...

feral verge
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catfish said so

wide tiger
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man

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Have you learned nothing

drifting arrow
feral verge
drifting arrow
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that somewhat good?

rare furnace
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Are you max level?

spice veldt
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ah the Rashad

drifting arrow
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25

wide tiger
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Yeah i saw her message

rare furnace
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It’s fine for now yeah

spice veldt
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the Rashad has a pecularity where it has torso priority, which basically means that it's difficult to hit headshots

twilit flicker
drifting arrow
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so aim for their dicks?

normal sequoia
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question to Blaze Sword users, do you prefer putting perks for damage (flak, unarmoured etc.) or block and stamina (for added Deflector effectiveness) on your sword?

spice veldt
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you actually want to aim at the sky

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damage

spice veldt
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+Maniac is the most important perk I would go for, and +Carapace is the second most important perk to me

normal sequoia
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I found out that I actually dont really use the Deflector that much, because blocking slows me down so damn much and its usually faster to just slide to cover lol

spice veldt
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I prefer Bloodthirsty and Slaughterer as my two blessings

wide tiger
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Deflector is a trap dont use it, use offensive shit

feral verge
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for my tastes, i dont need the damage. i two shot everything

wide tiger
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gotta one shot or go home

spice veldt
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one-shotting is pretty important though

feral verge
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i one shot when slaughterer kicks in

normal sequoia
blazing oak
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Make deflector block sniper and block bullets when reviving again

normal sequoia
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what blessings do you pair on Force Sword for offensive capabilities? I assume one is Slaughterer?

feral verge
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i two shot for the first few dudes, then one shot with slaughterer

normal sequoia
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and the above mentioned Bloothirsty?

wide tiger
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if you can get that blessing

spice veldt
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Bloodthirsty is guaranteed crits on all attacks for 5 seconds after a special kill

feral verge
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all the elites die to two specials, or one special + bb

spice veldt
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BB is slow, so you might as well just special their ass

wide tiger
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+BB = + 3 seconds, kindof a lot

spice veldt
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and Bloodthirsty means that you gain a huge benefit from special kills

feral verge
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i BB when they come in, from far away

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like a mutie

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i BB as he charges from afar

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then run and special him

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he ded

spice veldt
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I prefer to just light-special him two times

feral verge
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if he's close, i BB as i dodge the charge

spice veldt
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I'm often not in situations where I have the space to BB mutants without KB up

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and I'm not wasting my ult on mutants

feral verge
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skill issue

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simply have more space

spice veldt
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it's real expensive these days

feral verge
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mindset problem

wide tiger
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Force latrine shovel when

vestal rose
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Roll a force swore that one shots mutants if you hit their head

viral solstice
vestal rose
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Sword*

viral solstice
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force big stick

wide tiger
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better yet roll a force sword that one shots mutants when you hit them period :p

viral solstice
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force crab

twilit flicker
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Force spoon

feral verge
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that would be op

vestal rose
wide tiger
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slaughterer required

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prob warp unleashed too

vestal rose
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Rip

rare furnace
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Force sword with thrust?

vestal rose
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Yeah just channel your inner matador and smack the head

wide tiger
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Didnt they originally advertise the end of march patch as a large content patch?

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I noticed they kinda backpedaled and are labeling it small now

clear heath
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damn, they should make it a large patch by adding more psyker nerfs

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this solves everything

robust relic
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I want a Force Wombat

spice veldt
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announce that psykers will never get 2h weapons because of their twinkly ass arms

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emotional damage to all psykers

robust relic
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you squeeze the Force Wombat and it's screams hurt stuff

kind jay
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why cant i swing a sword around with my big brain?

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feels sadge

vestal rose
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Its only fair to nerf us
We got one of our feats to feel situationally nice with wrack and ruin
Its more than we deserve

solar cloak
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pyskers get sent to the black ships when they lose a peril stack

spice veldt
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damn even the ogryn chat is joshing around with psyker nerfs

cold geode
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Void staff transfer peril IV whatthefuck_heresy

feral verge
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I have

solar cloak
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2nd most played class for me is psyker whatthefuck_heresy

feral verge
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Transfer peril iv is overkill

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3 is enough

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Warp flurry iv tho.....

solar cloak
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got that on me voidstrike

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never ending bowling balls

cold geode
feral verge
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Based

long wharf
cold geode
feral verge
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After trying all the staves besides surge in high int damn

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Purga + AB definitely makes it the easiest

spice veldt
solar cloak
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still need to find a good trauma staff though, Purge and Voidstrike are set

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im assuming the blessings for trauma are similar to void

spice veldt
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Warp Flurry yup

feral verge
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Warp flurry and rending shockwave

spice veldt
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but the second blessing is a bit more flexible

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Focused Channeling is my pick

feral verge
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Warp flurry is the best overall blessing for all staves

solar cloak
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gambling away at brunts for hope

spice veldt
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i love gambling

feral verge
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I'm saving my shit for the update

fringe tangle
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noice

feral verge
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26k plasteel looking comfy

feral verge
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Another single target fs

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We want a horde clear FS damnit

solar cloak
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need cleave tbh

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im stuck with an antax

fringe tangle
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I guess so.

feral verge
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Psyker has no good out of the box horde clear melee

leaden thunder
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looks cool tho

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so

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bonus points for that

fringe tangle
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Maybe they should add a force 2h hammer or force greatsword etc.

spice veldt
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no RGB

viral solstice
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yeah but nobody has good horde clear melee, its all a psyop

feral verge
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Skyrim iron greatsword lookin ass

solar cloak
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thought it was gonna be a cleave type FS

viral solstice
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the only weapon that exists is the devil claw

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its all hallucinations

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do NOT trust the shark

spice veldt
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more like do not trust the crab

leaden thunder
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always trust the crab

viral solstice
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trust the crab

feral verge
gilded viper
viral solstice
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imagine being a psyker

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and havin this shit said to u

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just like dam...

fringe tangle
# feral verge

Yeah, they could pretty much copy paste that, slap some techy stuff on the side and bam, force greatsword.

viral solstice
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fortsword

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fartsword

spice veldt
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naughty crab

fringe tangle
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There's already a greatsword in vermintide 2, copy pasta that over here.

celest hedge
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So the new sword is going to handle similar to the dueling sword?

feral verge
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There a force greatsword in the files

leaden thunder
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there is an icon for it

fringe tangle
celest hedge
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With it being thrusting and stuff

leaden thunder
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no moveset etc

solar cloak
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pls no more thrusting

fringe tangle
celest hedge
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I’d be fine with an elf spear, favorite elf weapon in verm 2

magic burrow
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I want a force pocket knife

feral verge
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Tome and hammer gang rise up

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Best vt wep

fringe tangle
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But what about a laser sword, then we can go full jedi/sith mode.

lucid terrace
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I want force baseball bat.

solar cloak
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I want a buff

daring nexus
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hopefully this new fs atleast has some sweeping heavies or something

celest hedge
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Blaze sword, make it a flamestaff converted into a melee weapon

magic burrow
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a force spoon

solar cloak
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force fork

fringe tangle
magic burrow
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no, force spoon. I want to be this guy

spice veldt
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maybe the 1st light is a stab, resulting in a stab combo light->heavy, and the sweeping combo will be heavy->light

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i wonder how the 3rd light is gonna go though, if it even has a 3rd light

solar cloak
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surely the entire moveset wont just be thrusts

daring nexus
lament sonnet
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I'm content with my staves being my hoard clear.

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We don't have a single target staff to begin with so like, I'd rather just lean into that

feral verge
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I too am happy to have a limited build variety

foggy tangle
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is 56% charge rate too low to be worth using for trauma? almost 80 in everything else

feral verge
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For me it would be

spice veldt
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Not for me because of the wide scaling

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On the Trauma staff, the charge stat scales from 2.5 seconds to 1 second

spice veldt
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56% charge rate is 1.66 seconds if I calculated it correctly

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compared to 1.3 seconds at 80% charge rate

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I'd say that 0.36 seconds is a noticeable difference

fringe tangle
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yup

spice veldt
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For Trauma, damage is my dump stat

foggy tangle
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Yea that sounds rough, oh well

spice veldt
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still perfectly usable if you have nothing better

long wharf
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trauma aiming is my dump stat

spice veldt
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200iq only play maps where trauma aiming works

near wyvern
spice veldt
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that's what I do lmao

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maps where trauma aiming doesn't work aren't real

near wyvern
spice veldt
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you're a user error

feral verge
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Damn

mortal quarry
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Grandmapocalypse

rare furnace
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Heroes aren’t always cleaving some times they thrust and penetrate 🙏🏽💯💥

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2h fs

long wharf
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FartShart doesn't want psykers to feel powerful

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we're glass cannons, emphasis on "glass"

cold geode
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wheres the cannon tho?

rare furnace
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Bb?

near wyvern
near wyvern
rare furnace
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Glass canno

spice veldt
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Glass can (the other letters fell off)

rare furnace
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I’ll be heavy fsword main I’ll make it work just because it looks cool

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Question is are we getting new talent ?

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Blessing*

cold geode
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its like FS heard me bitching about being glass cannons and crashed my game

rare furnace
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Lamp

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Lmao

cold geode
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glad i have a 13gbps raid to load the game off of

kind jay
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we need a "reflector" blessing. timed block to fully reflect bullets back, including sniper!

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lets go chubshark give it to me

near wyvern
# kind jay lets go chubshark give it to me

We heard your wishes and decided to remove Deflector from the game. Psykers not being able to one shot by close range shotgunners is not something we ever intended for the game.

kind jay
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just as planned

wide tiger
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Zealots out here thinking they're getting dual wield thammers

past parrot
wide tiger
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Can't wait for the new recon lasgun variant with even higher rofl!

rare furnace
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I wish we could see the base crit on our weapons though

leaden thunder
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same as your class

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5% for psyker

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for most weapons at least

supple skiff
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If the new force sword doesn’t one shot maulers with alt fire and meh stats I’m going to be chapped

magic burrow
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anything known about changes for psyker in the upcoming patch, except for the new stabby force sword?

supple skiff
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Dont think so, guess there’s going to be more than 2 weapons so a chance we might get something else but that’s purely a guess

idle bay
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I think besides a new shiny force sword will get void staff animation cancel fix at least.

magic burrow
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maybe the new force sword will be the opposite of what the current force sword is. Instead of swipes and a stab special, itll have stabs and a swipe special. Would be neat.

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probably not though

idle bay
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How can we live without another nerf 🙂

near wyvern
magic burrow
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Id rather not have a class balanced around a macro

idle bay
near wyvern
wide tiger
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even with the macro its pretty meh

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no offense to your macro

near wyvern
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barely worth it

Stated it myself, sibling

wide tiger
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i think i prefer guns to our staves because i like to kill things quickly

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cc is fine and all but not really for me

supple skiff
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They’re coming for the void staff I feel it in my bones

fiery atlas
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i need to get better at force sword

near wyvern
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But they are 💯 % gonna remove that animation cancel at least in the spammable form. Very likely that it will be done so that they add additional delay after quelling so that it will fuck up all the regular casting and with no fixes in sight for nexus and flurry.

fiery atlas
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i end up getting bonked so much and losing HP because of scab gunners that suddenly grow a brain and aim their guns at me

wide tiger
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I cant believe nexus hasnt been fixed

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its such a trivial thing to change the peril gain points, or just implement warp unleashed logic

near wyvern
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I mean it's working but the tresholds are just clearly ill defined

wide tiger
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at least i get 5% crit from it

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Wait

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I cant remember now

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do i need 50% to even get the baseline 5%?

fiery atlas
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GIVE US NEXUS ON FORCE SWORD

supple skiff
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I don’t use the macro despite void being my go to. Buy I think you’re right in saying there will be overspray in the attempt to fix that

fiery atlas
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nexus on force sword would be very funny

idle bay
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I had a great Gun Psyker moment recently. Was using Vraks MK III
Malice (just for scriptures) with 3 random vets.
After first few encounters they started marking ammo and leaving it for me....

wide tiger
near wyvern
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Then 50, then 97 and 97

near wyvern
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By testing I have only confirmed that at 90 you are at 2 stacks

wide tiger
fiery atlas
near wyvern
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Unstable power KEKW_ogryn get back to academy

wide tiger
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Unstable power would be decent if it worked like warp unleashed

near wyvern
wide tiger
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eh i disagree

near wyvern
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And the blessing itself could take a tiny little bump, like 30% at full stacks

wide tiger
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i think it should be like 20/40/60/80

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why make us work so hard for our shit

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i can just play vet and not have to do any work

near wyvern
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80 might get broken with surge on void

wide tiger
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good

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We need some broken shit

fiery atlas
wide tiger
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god knows other classes have broken shit

fiery atlas
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because reaching 100% doesn't mean instant death

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it just means "oopsie gotta blow off a lil steam"

wide tiger
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I never said it did

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but we already balance multiple resources and buffs to get mediocre returns

near wyvern
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You can cast at 97-99 in most cases

wide tiger
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we dont need to do more

fiery atlas
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also super easy to reach 90% peril

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because of BB and spamming staff if you're a gigachad trauma user

near wyvern
wide tiger
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you can definitely cast in a 97-99 window but why put that unnecessary burden on a class that already has more bullshit to worry about than others

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Im okay with more reward

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but that never happens

near wyvern
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Cause true Psykers are sweat lords

wide tiger
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I'd settle for just good

fiery atlas
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yeah a lot of the stuff in this game could be buffed and it'd fix 50% of the problems darktide has

fiery atlas
supple skiff
ornate hamlet
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I was honestly weirded by the peril system

near wyvern
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Meny blessings could have their effect just multiplied by 10 and they still wouldn't be broken.

ornate hamlet
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I thought it'd be Sienna's overcharge, then I reached 100, slammed R on the spot and was like "wait, that's it?"

idle bay
supple skiff
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Slide reload KEKW_ogryn

ornate hamlet
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Then I realized my boss damage is hitting G and holding the mouse button

fiery atlas
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playing psyker is annoying if your vet isn't tryharding and blowing the heads off chaos shooters

ornate hamlet
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Engaging

fiery atlas
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aw come on

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surge isn't that lazy

wide tiger
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I mean

fiery atlas
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requires some skill to CC your enemies with a single cast

near wyvern
proven raven
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Purgatus is lazy lol

idle bay
supple skiff
wide tiger
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i would say the only staff that isnt "lazy" is the trauma

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because you have to deal with the targetting system

fiery atlas
wide tiger
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but everything becomes autopilot once you've done it enough

idle bay
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I mean how could ANYONE not to switch for Void for a while after rolling this

supple skiff
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Fair

idle bay
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It was enough to override my lazyness

wide tiger
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Nice roll!

near wyvern
fiery atlas
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it's very shit sometimes to be blockbroken by shit hordes because of very funny tox flamers who come up behind

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and then all of a sudden i am stunned in place

wide tiger
fiery atlas
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and cannot move

wide tiger
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Stairs'll fuck you tho

fiery atlas
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and my HP is deleted FeelsGoodMan

leaden thunder
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why block when can dodge

wide tiger
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forreal

fiery atlas
near wyvern
leaden thunder
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most push attacks are not worth spamming

idle bay
wide tiger
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With my antax V push attack is very safe if im in a bad spot

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but less effective than lights because of the cap on cleave

fiery atlas
wide tiger
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but i can also trade with ragers and not take damage

near wyvern
# leaden thunder why block when can dodge

Because combat blade push attack is twice the spead of heavy but deals the same damage. Lone mob comes at me, I dish out blade just before they hit me, block, push, dead before you can blink.

near wyvern
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Got me excited there for a moment

idle bay
near wyvern
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You pulled a Fat Shark on me

fiery atlas
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good one

idle bay
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Also not clean sound - helps in waking up.

near wyvern
idle bay
fiery atlas
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soulblaze on elite BB talent feels good

idle bay
idle bay
fiery atlas
idle bay
# fiery atlas it's probably in both senses, yes

And she is not very good with normal Gothic language. She quickly "noosphere- googled" some term that might fit and started using at some point. And it's stuck. She is be fluent in dozens of binaric cants though

supple skiff
#

Missed opportunity for her to accidentally stay in fax machine mode for a couple voice lines

idle bay
feral verge
#

is this vet chat

idle bay
#

We are not discussing tau porn, so no, not a vet chat 🙂

#

That reminds me to get "End and Death" audiobook... No relation to lewd tau art, just reminds me to get that damn book 🙂 I need to know how it ended! Almost finished "Echoes of Ethernity"

wide tiger
#

which one do i reroll?

#

both crappy perks

#

this is for my vet btw, i dont trust vet chat

idle bay
leaden thunder
#

crit chance prolly

wide tiger
#

i was thinking of rerolling crit tbh

#

yeah

#

but its like

#

they're both pretty bad

idle bay
#

Keep crit - it universally useful, while Poxwalkers are not good bonus at all

wide tiger
#

that was the other side

#

you guys are speaking my inner monologue

#

only 30 rerolls for 25% flak, the machine god is most generous

dusky bear
#

cant help but notice that the lastest comm-link changed the "large patch" into "small content drop"

#

yet some how im utterly unsurprised

bleak quarry
#

Yeah I was hoping for a new map, new weapons, more story. But meh 2 weapons will do lol

supple skiff
#

Gotta keep your receipts on the internet

#

Granted it’s confirmed more than 2 weapons

celest raven
#

atleast we get a new force sword that is FINALLY good against specials!

#

jk

bleak quarry
#

Yeah all psykers use the current force sword for horde clear

celest raven
#

god forbid we get one force sword with some type of cleave

supple skiff
#

The claim is that they are not previewing the whole thing in the comms post, whether that’s just for plausible deniability cause they’re still cobbling things together, remains to be seen

dusky bear
#

them rewording what the update will be tells me all i need to know

cedar cove
supple skiff
#

My FS already one shots maulers with its alt fire so idk what the point of this new one is

celest raven
#

ya a force axe with brutal momentum would be amazing

supple skiff
#

Likely won’t be any better against bulwarks or crushers

dusky bear
#

current FS special does more dps than BB. but sure lets add another FS that specializes in single target weakpoints lol

celest raven
#

i know right like... we already have a FS that specializes in single target...

supple skiff
#

Kinetic barrage has alt but replaced my useage of force sword alt fire

timid storm
#

Maybe the new force sword special will be horde clear

supple skiff
#

Keep it for defensive purposes and melee horde clear. So the new sword design is rather lack lustre in my view

celest raven
cedar cove
supple skiff
timid storm
#

Current FS can be pretty good at horde clear if you use the flame blessing (forgot the name)

celest raven
#

thats all psyker really needs is a cleave FS and a special killing staff

steel flame
#

dear god. a new force sword

#

its very pointy

#

and, hehehehe, Stabby

timid storm
#

We need other force weapon options IMO

#

Falchions maybe

celest raven
#

force dueling sword

steel flame
#

im kinda scared to see just how much damage the special on a FS Actually built to kill armor is

elder rain
#

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timid storm
#

I might run it tbh. Purg has good enough clear, but a sword that can potentially 1 shot bulwarks and mutants seems solid

cedar cove
#

That one is →

timid storm
#

Right one is way better

cedar cove
#

Cleave is the dump stat on MkV especially because of bromentum.

feral verge
#

zazy

#

@steel flame

#

is this you

#

im standing infront of a psyker named zazy

fiery atlas
#

dueling sword has better horde clear imo

#

force sword is better for stuff like bosses

gilded viper
#

so a single target focused force sword eyy?

#

Isn't that we already use force sword for?

#

I guess if it kills crushers and muties even faster that'd be cool

fiery atlas
#

it does

#

it's called the special

gilded viper
#

well yes, but the special on the new one would likely be stronger if it's going all in on single target damage

fiery atlas
#

nah, it'd need a different special than that imo

#

maybe like a little mini aoe BB

#

or something to do w/ soulblaze

dusky bear
#

yeah if its the exact same special, then its trash

gilded viper
#

Well it doesn't mention changing the special attacks effect, so we'll have to see

fiery atlas
#

probably high burst dmg on a single target

#

which makes no sense because that's what BB does

#

just seems redundant to keep the same wep special

dusky bear
#

thats what current fs does

kind jay
#

its kinda weird because current fs is already a "high damage single target" weapon

fiery atlas
#

yes

#

which it'd suck if new force sword doesn't do something unique

timid storm
#

A force sword with a power sword charge up would be dope

ornate hamlet
#

Playing a bit with it, one issue I notice is that its special gets canceled if the enemy dies while you're doing it

timid storm
#

But even if it is just a more niche sword, im happy. 1 hitting mutants and crushers would be so nice

kind jay
#

you want the special to cancel when the enemy dies

#

no reason to be stuck in the full animation

timid storm
#

^

kind jay
#

also it still procs bloodthirst if you have it

ornate hamlet
#

Doesn't running the full animation do an attack at the end?

kind jay
#

yes the strongest portion is the last hit but if your target is dead then theres no need for it right

#

it doesnt have aoe and doesnt swap targets

#

so it might as well just end

wide tiger
#

appears to be pretty common, and I'm really curious why they cant even just have one developer dedicated to fixing blessings, weapon balance, etc

steel flame
#

im spacin out right now

#

BIS on auto pistol is pinning fire right?

#

or is that blaze away

leaden thunder
#

both

#

for it to be crazy mode

pearl lion
#

Hm a new force sword. I was hoping for a force axe or some other variant but still new stuff

steel flame
#

well das good

pearl lion
#

Im very curious if the special is going to be the same

steel flame
#

ive got both on a natural roll

pearl lion
#

Cause if it is, I don't super see the point of it

steel flame
#

only t3 though

#

which is fine

feral verge
#

@steel flame

pearl lion
#

The current force sword's special attack already deals with single target armour

feral verge
#

Is this you

steel flame
#

dam right is is

#

wasup

feral verge
#

Small world

twilit flicker
#

I expect the special to be the same but stabby

steel flame
#

yes it is

ornate hamlet
pearl lion
#

It kind of just sounds like a worse force sword then haha

steel flame
#

you gonna write it off before we see litterally anything about is?

twilit flicker
#

Honestly? Yeah, for horde clear. The FS is already not so good in that role.

steel flame
#

im down to have a super specialized nuke from orbit weapon

spice veldt
#

the current FS is fine for hordeclear with Slaughterer

pearl lion
#

Yeah by making it a thrust weapon, it sounds like its going to lose what little horde clear it had

steel flame
#

oooooooo nooooooooo, too bad psyker doesnt have any aoe secondaries

twilit flicker
#

Writing it off? Ehhh, it should have better Armour pen so maybe not.

spice veldt
#

I'm going to shit in your pants if you don't light->heavy->cancel with the force sword

timid storm
#

I kinda like that. For people who run surge or purg, a more dedicated single target melee is nice

pearl lion
#

I guess if it uses something similar to the dueling sword's animations it could still be good

steel flame
formal flume
pearl lion
#

Like the pokieness being offset by speed

dusky bear
steel flame
#

i want something that does 3/4 to a crusher

#

and id be happy

timid storm
pearl lion
spice veldt
steel flame
#

god bloodthristy would go crazy if we had even more elites inside 1 shot range for FS special

timid storm
#

A MORE dedicated single target wrapon isnt bad. It's niche, but it's still useful

dusky bear
#

you can double/tripple spec them easily

#

FS does not build much peril, and purg can stagger them

spice veldt
steel flame
#

im talkin about all the maniacs too

dusky bear
#

spec swing spec swing spec swing done

steel flame
#

we could have a sword with mutant oneshot potential

spice veldt
#

I can also one-shot mutants on a heavy-special bodyshot

pearl lion
#

I guess having a lunge special will probably make it easier to hit a target you're aiming for

dusky bear
#

or let your team pull their weight as well

spice veldt
#

I only need one t3 slaughterer stack, crits, +maniac, and warp unleashed to pull that off

pearl lion
#

Oh one thing that could be nice is if they make the special quicker on the other FS

timid storm
#

Purg cant stagger crushers or mutants. If there is a horde, I have to stop and use 2 attacks to kill them before doing my job with horde clear. A weapon that can kill those tanks faster is nice

spice veldt
#

f

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30% each time with kinetic flayer I suppose

dusky bear
#

if you are clearing hoard and your team is not dealing with the mutie/crusher, you have a shit team. That said, coming from me, i have never had a problem doing that with current FS. A brief stop on hoard clear to deal with a crusher then right back to hoard clear

pearl lion
dusky bear
#

and mutie you just keep using purg. let it burn to death

feral verge
#

If I must I just BB the crusher then use force sword special

#

Done

#

Ez

pearl lion
#

If you can't take out the crusher without taking hits, focus on the horde

dusky bear
#

crusher is the only issue with purg cause purg and soulfire do almost nothing to carapace armor

pearl lion
#

And if your team can't deal with the crusher, then you can deal with it while THEY deal with the horde

dusky bear
#

or run trauma and just fuck everything up

#

since trauma ignores armor, you get to use crushers for your space program

feral verge
#

Psyker needs a melee horde clear option that works out of the box

#

No blessing prereqs

spice veldt
#

no; grind for 1000 hours for a good force sword

tropic pollen
#

how's Wrack and Ruin doing nowadays? still inferior to Inner Tranquility?

dusky bear
#

surge staff is great anti special, but you get fucked by hoards if your team isnt helping

#

and i have had 0 luck with claw sword blessings

ornate hamlet
#

FS is making me wish I found a versatile force melee

frail berry
#

Is this a no brainer? Psyker obviously.

ornate hamlet
#

From what I'm looking at Brunt's, it's the only force melee psyker has

spice veldt
#

yup; the only force melee in the game currently

ornate hamlet
#

I would appreciate something akin to the executioner from VT2, where lights were very horizontal sweeps, heavies were "fuck you" overheads and the weapon's weakness was being painfully slow

near wyvern
rancid holly
#

where do i seek help for the last armor penance?

elder rain
leaden thunder
#

yes

cedar cove
elder rain
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near wyvern
#

Crushers are easy to juke with purge, just kill everything through it, LMB stagger when he is going for overheads and once everything else is dead, clean it up with BB or melee. Bulwakrs are the bigger challenge but if you get a side angle just keep flaming through to help the team isolate them.

cedar cove
elder rain
#

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leaden thunder
#

or decimator

cedar cove
#

Tier 3+ each

leaden thunder
#

as they both stack multiple times if you hit multiple things

near wyvern
#

Decimator is nice but you drop all stacks if you go for push, Headtaker is the more versitile.

leaden thunder
#

decimator will give more damage but suffers if you are fighting spread out stragglers or using push attacks often

elder rain
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near wyvern
#

Basically:
Decimator = if you spam LMB and are a dodge hero
Limbsplitter = Kinetic Deflection push attack spam is all you care about
Headtaker = Do a bit of both.

leaden thunder
#

don't do the middle one

fierce sinew
#

middle one is highest ceiling

cedar cove
leaden thunder
#

it's also

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just worse

#

then light spam

near wyvern
#

As long as it's not +crit damage or +weakspot damage it's a helpful perk. Avoid those two at all costs.

leaden thunder
#

if you don't want to "abuse" brutal momentum then sure push spam but if you have bm it's just worse

elder rain
#

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leaden thunder
#

sprint eff for gunner resist maybe

fierce hazel
#

I mean if you like it just roll one for the best version of itself

viral solstice
#

i mean depending on what u like swapping sprint efficiency for literally whatever u vibe with more

fierce hazel
#

Btw do we think the new force sword is the 2h one from trailers?

spice veldt
#

is there another force sword besides the Deimos that was revealed?

leaden thunder
#

noSitgryn

spice veldt
#

also why are they both fucking MK2s

fierce hazel
spice veldt
#

can't believe I have to type out more words instead of having to vaguely refer to them with their mark #

fierce hazel
spice veldt
#

yes, it's the depth of perception that's making the handle look shorter

#

:copium:

fierce hazel
#

High hopes, low expectations

#

That's how I handle things

spice veldt
#

they didn't specify it was 1h

#

would be a nice surprise if they bundled in a 2h force sword alongside this one though

fierce hazel
leaden thunder
#

you want to huff some hopium with me

#

that we get more then 1 weapon per class

spice veldt
#

peril glock

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blam blam blam, hold R to quell for more mind bullets

fierce hazel
#

Catch me with the glock'n balls

cyan notch
#

thrusting attack pattern lol

magic burrow
#

hold F to become a demonhost

#

and kill your party

wide tiger
#

that would make me love psyker

wide tiger
leaden thunder
#

yeah

sweet drift
#

Ok lets make a bet

#

There will be 3 weapons

#

Thoughts?

past parrot
#

New Devils Claw MK on the way

wide tiger
wide tiger
sweet drift
#

They will leave ogryn out

wide tiger
#

commissar it up

limber silo
sweet drift
#

LETS GOOO

limber silo
#

We'll workshop a new combo immediately

wide tiger
#

im curious if push and push attack will be same

limber silo
#

It'll be the chainsword push attack and we'll all bitch about it

#

Calling it now

spice veldt
#

i'd prefer the chainsword push attack over the current one we have

#

as long as it has the same damage properties as the 3rd light of the Obscurus

#

or it chains into the 2nd attack of the combo

limber silo
#

?

#

Chainsword push attack is dogshit. FS push attack knocks ragers on the ground

spice veldt
#

the current push-attack is a DPS loss

#

just hit trade with ragers

#

I'd rather something offensive so that I can do a quicker attack out of a block/push

#

and the Obscurus' 3rd light has some pretty good stagger

limber silo
#

Why would you hit trade? We're squishy af

spice veldt
#

to kill melee elites before your teammates can get to them

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and hit trading is necessary if you want to fight in-position instead of having to kite around

limber silo
#

And yeah, 3rd hit is great, that's why I still keep it in the light heavy light combo

#

What's wrong with kiting?

spice veldt
#

boring and I hate it

limber silo
#

Alright, just an opinion, got it

spice veldt
#

I can always win a game if I just take my time and kite, but that's boring

#

it's always fun to DPS check the game if I can

limber silo
#

Yeah, I never trade hits with anything. Those melee fuckers in flak can chunk me if I don't have shield up in damnation

#

I swear, falling to a basic goon is the most humiliating thing

spice veldt
#

i usually only take a few points of HP damage if I have toughness

#

since rager combos actually do not do that much damage anyways

#

I have been in a situation where I had 0 toughness and got greedy for a rager kill

#

however, I didn't realize there was a rager behind me and I got dropped from 150-ish HP to 10

#

especially since a bomber threw a fucking grenade and stunning me and interrupting my special

#

didn't even get the kill on the god damn scab rager

#

oh no it wasn't even the bomb that stunned me, I just got greedy and queued a special while I was stunned by the bomb so I had a longer period of vulnerability

limber silo
#

My worst moment was touching a bomber fire with a single pinky toe then get getting downed by a mauler instantly from full

spice veldt
#

smh; I would definitely never make that mistake

#

all of that precious HP gone in an instant

dusty temple
#

Do the psykers not have access to the braced autogun weapon class?

leaden thunder
#

no, they don't

limber silo
#

We have the autopistol, that's it

#

I used to run with it all the time before I got good staves

leaden thunder
#

you get recon lasguns instead

#

such a good replacement

limber silo
#

Hey, I liked the recon lasguns too

#

Insta-proccing Flayer was goated

steel flame
#

its not perfect but im pretty happy with it

leaden thunder
#

i mean

#

it's pretty close

steel flame
#

what im really missing with shredder vs the laspistol is that extra toughness regen from crit kills

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feel much squishier

#

i guess inspiring barrage would more than cover for that

#

but then i wouldnt have ALL THE DAMAGE

orchid nacelle
#

psyker psykinetic

feral verge
#

psyker psykinetic

viral solstice
#

biker bikinetic

steel flame
#

gunker go brrrrrrr

stable silo
#

i feel psyker is starting to scale down a bit i do way less damage and feel kinda useless in like double vet org teams

steel flame
#

why in the world would i play anything else

stable silo
#

am i just trash i know i am but maybe i should mongo vet

steel flame
#

what are you using my dude

wide tiger
#

I mean ive been doing gunker lately and i find it more fun than staves

#

maybe i just burnt myself out on staves

steel flame
#

IKR

stable silo
#

force sword trauma staff

steel flame
#

what level areyou

feral verge
#

what level

stable silo
#

24 and 3/4 rofl

wide tiger
#

I'm next level

feral verge
#

there's your problem

steel flame
#

those two can really suck at lower levels

stable silo
#

does it get ebtter at 30 with better perks/feats?

feral verge
#

psyker picks up after level 30

stable silo
#

ah

feral verge
#

it absolutely does

steel flame
#

they scale really hard so with bad stats they......suck ass

feral verge
#

i am a decent psyker. not amazing. not awful

#

and i wreck most games, no matter the staff really

#

even if im with a vet

steel flame
#

psyker is the class that requires all of his skills to be optimal

#

so once you have them all it really takes off

feral verge
#

i only play damnation

stable silo
#

i see

#

well il stick it out ha thanks guys

steel flame
#

you got this

feral verge
#

psyker really can wreck, just needs to be high level and carefully planned out feats/weps/bllessings

#

np sibling

viral solstice
#

or it just requires a willingness to stab ppl (but magically)

wide tiger
#

all this talk about optimal and such is really just a veiled way of saying you need to work really hard to be as effective as others

steel flame
#

yeah.....

wide tiger
steel flame
#

but thats what i find the most fun

cyan notch
#

i only play damnation

#

(in psykhanium)

wide tiger
#

lol

robust relic
wide tiger
#

I can't get out of sedition in the psyk

viral solstice
#

its the scariest place

spice veldt
#

how do u get out of the psykanium?

steel flame
#

you dont

wide tiger
#

There's only one way out and you need a revolver

spice veldt
#

i've been stuck here for 2 weeks

viral solstice
cyan notch
#

u gotta kill enough adds

feral verge
#

help im so op in damnation psykhanium but any other map and i do so bad help

spice veldt
#

oh ok time for me to spawn 1000 poxwalkers to kill

#

again

viral solstice
spice veldt
#

why can enemies damage me in missions?

viral solstice
#

no spawn them to makme friend

feral verge
#

5 mistakes YOU'RE making that are keeping YOU stuck in malice psykhanium

#

10 reasons why you're stuck in malice psykhanium

spice veldt
#

how do you spawn a friend?

#

i see people on the darktide talking about friends

viral solstice
spice veldt
#

but i'm not sure what they are

#

i don't see them in the creature spawn menu at least

viral solstice
#

u just need friend mindset

kind jay
#

check out my godrolled shredder

cyan notch
#

its called chaos_daemonhost thats ur friend it follows you around everywhere (loyal)

viral solstice
#

SO MANY POLYGON

hoary shadow
#

yes !!! pick and mix over !

forest coral
#

Ayy gz!!

steel flame
#

I still need that but I can't be bothered to corral my teammates to stop killing all the elites I'm trying to headpop

long wharf
#

... did FartShart change us getting credit for all ranged/melee kills done by the team for the weeklies?

steel flame
#

Why?

long wharf
#

because I just finished a mission using void, and there's no way the entire team only killed 75 dregs with ranged

steel flame
#

Lol

#

I wouldn't put it past them to fuck up how contracts count

kind jay
#

i got pick n mix by accident during a hunting grounds run

#

apparently doesn't have to be 5 different things

long wharf
#

never did

kind jay
#

just hard to tell with the description

spice veldt
#

that oddly specific "different"

#

of course I can't kill the same enemy more than once... right?

gilded viper
#

pretty sure if the same enemy type*

cold geode
#

i got it by accident and i dont even remember what i killed

long wharf
#

everything is possible if you believe in the Emperor

cold geode
#

only penance i havent done yet on pskyer is the solo monster kill

spice veldt
#

i threw my grenade at the ceiling as the screen faded to black during the chasm terminus mission and got the long bomb

gilded viper
#

for me it that and going out in a bang

spice veldt
#

my faith rewarded me so

gilded viper
#

i just give up on penance when i realize im just going to use the prem shop items anyways.......then they haven't updated it in 3 months RWkek

cold geode
#

its like vets in melee dont know how to block i swear

proven raven
gilded viper
#

from using PS, we don't block, we assume we going to kill anything close enough RWkek

proven raven
#

Literally the only one I have left and it's next to impossible, Pick n Mix was a piece of cake by comparison

cold geode
#

unless its a fucking boss mob on assassination that doesnt go down in one hit

shadow wigeon
proven raven
#

Only use it really has is a gunker build imo

gilded viper
#

^

#

feel really good par with KB and hitting ogryns, it atleast soften up the horde a bit

proven raven
#

The extra burns from ragers, bulwarks, etc adds up quick when you don't have a staff

gilded viper
#

think i seen it hit 82 tick before

shadow wigeon
gilded viper
#

wait im confuse, thought we was talking about the BB = fire to other target it near it

shadow wigeon
#

So 3 stacks can be turned into ok damage

#

Otherwise 3 stacks is quite weak

gilded viper
#

But it hits so few and so random targets.
then i don't understand this part

shadow wigeon
#

Or a dog... or specialist with noone around them

proven raven
#

I've never had that experience lol

wide tiger
#

going out with a bang prob ez on hunting grounds too

proven raven
#

I'm usually the first person to be tagging and killing elites

gilded viper
#

i aim high since most elite/speical are taller then normal enemy so i guess i never had a problem, that and i spam LMB if i end up targetting the wrong enemy

wide tiger
#

i got all the penances by accident through regular play

gilded viper
#

never felt too random for me

shadow wigeon
#

So that's why I find the damage output quite random

#

If the range were larger, and you could consistently get 2x3 stacks on people, it would be more significant.

proven raven
#

It's still either removing a priority target or weakening them. The burn's usually strong enough with six warp stacks to kill what remains of a 5 dog in my experience

But at that point, just use gun to kill specials. Elites are usually mixed in enough, and if that gunner's by himself, it's good he's dead anyways, somebody else wasn't focusing them

At that point, damage doesn't matter because the effect is truly just extra 🤷

#

Thats like saying flamer's damage output is random because there's a bulwark in front of you

#

The damage didn't go anywhere, there's just nothing to apply it to

gilded viper
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i mean u can take burn kinda easy if you BB a bulwak or crusher, sometime both since in T5 there like always a group of 3-4 ogryn that u can just spam BB on

austere estuary
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BASED HADRON

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warp flurry IV on consecrate

shadow wigeon
austere estuary
olive ember
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damn

manic halo
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that new force sword looks sexy. Kinda dissapointed its going to be focused on single target attacks. I already disliked the moveset of the normal one

olive ember
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If its really all just stab attacks I might not even pick it up tbh

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will have to see but

spice veldt
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they wouldn't dare make it all stabs... right?

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I assume that they just moved the 3rd light to the 1st light and made the 2nd heavy a stab if we're following the psyker trailer

spice veldt
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though they didn't show the 1st light at all; and I'm not sure which of the attacks are the 1st/2nd heavies

gilded viper
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maybe another psyker weapon with it COPIUM

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since they say it more then 2 weapons

manic halo
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ay it says its going to be more thrusting attack patterns so who knows

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ay yeah I wonder if ogryn will get another weapon

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also new modifers

long wharf
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endless horde bugged during a cryo mission

vapid wagon
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hm, not a big fan of thrusting patterns. i really dig the current heavy the force word has, but nice to see theyre adding new weapons

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in vt2 we were just getting them vial dlc

manic halo
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yeah still Im looking forward to seeeing what they do

vapid wagon
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why is this chick the new posterchild for darktide updates tho? sex sells?

gilded viper
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the community manager?

long wharf
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you mean the CM?

gilded viper
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isn't that catfish?

long wharf
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it is Catfish.

vapid wagon
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yea it is

long wharf
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way to be a clueless douche

manic halo
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yeah man thats not a cool way of saying that shit

vapid wagon
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lmfao, truth hurts i guess

gilded viper
long wharf
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way to double down on your douchery

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can't possibly be you, has to be everyone else

gilded viper
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the last thing people doing playing this game is looking at the commlink post and be like "ooh women me must like darktide now"

spice veldt
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i think it is a bit of a nonsequtuasodaiod whatever that term is to say that sex sells just because she's on the page

long wharf
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non-sequiter

spice veldt
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googled it and it turns out to be non sequitur

long wharf
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it's not a non-sequiter, it's actually insulting Catfish

lethal folio
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'Does not Follow'

long wharf
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it does follow though - that's the point he was trying to make

feral verge
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yoooo

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melk time in 10 minutes

long wharf
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it wasn't a good one

feral verge
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who's excited??? who's ready

long wharf
feral verge
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this is going to be epic

long wharf
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wait

spice veldt
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you've been daylight saving-ed

feral verge
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hahahahahahahah

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look at this doood

spice veldt
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they didn't shift the clock over for the milk shop

long wharf
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fuck yes I have

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god damn it

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what's strange is my daily shop right now is different from what it was a couple hours ago

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wait no, nevermind

shadow wigeon
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It's not daylight savings time in Sweden until march 26.

long wharf
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I hate DST so much

lethal folio
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I assume for most of europe

feral verge
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sweden doesnt exist

spice veldt
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europe doesn't exist

feral verge
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eur who?

long wharf
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if sweden doesn't exist, then where do all the hot swedish ladies come from?

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and where do swedish meatballs come from?

cold geode
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ikea

feral verge
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swedish ladies? who care

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now latinas tho.......

long wharf
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it's okay

feral verge
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i like dark hair and dark eyes what can i say

long wharf
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having a preference is fine

feral verge
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they are

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if the other persons preferences align with mine