#psyker-class

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feral verge
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madlad

maiden wolf
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I NEEEED IT!

feral verge
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Don't see warp flurry or transfer peril

river sand
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ouh with t4 surge/nexus and quell canceling half-full charged shots you can be quite effective

wide tiger
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yeah also using a macro to rapid fire is pretty good

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When they fix nexus it will be far better, too

feral verge
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I prefer never having to quell

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What if they patch the macro/cancel tech

river sand
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then everything but flurry is garbage

river sand
wide tiger
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no, its not.

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its actually pretty good lol

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when you rotate primary and secondary fire into the same macro and weave

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you turn the voidstrike into a gattling gun

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the primary fire crits with double shots is substantial

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the secondary gives you some stagger, less damage

river sand
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then you got okayish singletarget damage and completly get reid of your aoe dmg cause uncharged dont pierce

wide tiger
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its not like youve lost the ability to charge

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you just have multiple firing options

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its like... better lmb

wide tiger
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so you still charge into a horde as per usual, but for shooters or single target you can macro instead of using lmb

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or you can alter the macro to give about 20ms time to the secondary fire so you pierce one enemy and stagger basically anything except mutants

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or have the 3 options, which is what i do

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i just dont utilize lone LMB anymore

viral solstice
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dont use macro

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do it manually

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its like making ur o wn bread

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it tastes better

river sand
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but the macro thats floating around here is kinda meh. either do it manually or lets out the rmb from makro so you can charge as long as you want and fire off via macro

viral solstice
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thank u emprah

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absolutely based

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WAIT A SECOND

wide tiger
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just need to change out carapace for block efficiency and youre set

viral solstice
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AND THEN HADRON JUST GIVE ME RIPOSTE 4

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IM READY TO RIPOSTE

wide tiger
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is there anything more insulting than rolling a t4 perk and having it be +1 stam

viral solstice
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um how is that inmsulting...

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its staminas...

wide tiger
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because its equivalent to a t1 perk

viral solstice
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do u have any items

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with t1 perks

wide tiger
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MAYBE

viral solstice
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exactly... t1 is the rarest perk kind

wide tiger
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i was hoping they'd do like, you know

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  • more stamina for higher tiers of perks
viral solstice
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ive seen t1 crit

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its 2%

wide tiger
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I do actually have a tier 1 perk but its on my level 6 ogryn

grizzled jasper
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20% crit chance for 2 seconds YOOOO

viral solstice
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wow just showing off

wide tiger
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ogryn smurf

feral verge
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Why do you get all the good luck

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I need precog bad

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๐Ÿ˜”

long wharf
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wait, you want precog?

feral verge
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Well, yeah

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It's the best blessing overall, in the game

long wharf
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by what metric?

feral verge
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You always dodging, aiming for the head anyway

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Precog is free dmg

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Best blessing

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Rewarding you for something you should already be doing

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Wish bolter had precog

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Then itd be so op lol

long wharf
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precog isn't better than bloodthirsty for the fsword

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or headtaker

feral verge
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Precog is all you really need

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Those other blessings are just overkill

long wharf
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I guess we're going to have to just agree to disagree

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lol, "overkill"

feral verge
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I'm shit posting. Precog sucks lol

viral solstice
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precog

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get in NOW

viral solstice
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like if u look thats better than threecog, its fourcog...

river sand
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aren't precogs those bald swimmers that want tom cruise getting arrested ?

viral solstice
wide tiger
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they say you're a criminal and thats it you're done son

long wharf
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that's what that future documentary showed

ember hornet
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how dis

ornate hamlet
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Because of the singular T4 Blessing, the two t4 perks, is this worth the buy for its versatility in how it can be built?

ember hornet
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no, that blessing is bad and the gun is bad

viral solstice
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ur looking at it backwards

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that means both are likely to be buffed

ember hornet
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mayhaps

ornate hamlet
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Yeah, I'd change speedload, and one of the perks.

ember hornet
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punishing salvo is bad

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you just don't know it

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20% weakspot is a paltry damage increase

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and it's only for salvo

ornate hamlet
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So what I'm hearing is, if you can't consistently hit weakspots, and you don't have firecontrol, it's bad.

ember hornet
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no

leaden thunder
ember hornet
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weakspot calculation makes it bad

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say you do 50% more on weakspot

leaden thunder
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it's a 20% increase to the headshot multiplier

ember hornet
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that punishing salvo would add 10% weakspot damage

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making the total 160% instead of 150%

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for 2 shots only

viral solstice
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ye in the best case it adds like 7-8% damage to a 3-shot burst on a very high weakspot weapon (an iag)

ember hornet
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so it's just bad because how they implemented it

viral solstice
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and thats if ur only shooting 3 shot bursts purely into weakspots

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in fact

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here u go

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tier 4

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ees

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spagoter

ornate hamlet
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Is being condescending like an intrinsic trait with people offering their insight in these channels?

ember hornet
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I'm not sure which part was condescending

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when we were just providing technical information

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and informing you of the weakspot trap

feral verge
ember hornet
feral verge
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np homie

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gl

ornate hamlet
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"you just don't know it" May have misread over text, but that comes off as condescending.

ember hornet
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I just meant it's a trap that seems good but if you don't know the technical details you wouldn't know it

viral solstice
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altho tbf i expect a lot of those blessings to get buffed

leaden thunder
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also this game has so many fucky mechanics

viral solstice
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like its not obvious why opening salvo is power and punishing is weakspot damage...

leaden thunder
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that most people don't know how a lot of them work

ornate hamlet
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Since I am here...

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What is the dump stat of a revolver?

leaden thunder
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mobi

ornate hamlet
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I thought so

viral solstice
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yee its got 3 damage stats and reload speed is a pain point so its like

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of the damage stats crit is the weakest tho

ornate hamlet
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Just rolled. Rip.

viral solstice
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i mean thats still really good

feral verge
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id happily use that

viral solstice
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partly because it's like, the crit is mostly just gravy unless u got a crucian deadshot setup where ur actually hitting like idk 60-80% crit

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and so losing a bit of crit multi and chance isnt hurting ttk 99% of the time

wide tiger
feral verge
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ya

ornate hamlet
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Takes a village.

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Suggestions? I think Handcanon is good

viral solstice
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well

ornate hamlet
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Prolly swap 8% ranged dmg elites

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for crit chance

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point blank for a crit blessing

viral solstice
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hand-cannon aint doin much most of the time but ehh point blank is equally not doing much so fuck it hand-cannon crucian

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i really wish they would think about why they put so many rending blessings on weapons that dont really need it

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or add more carapace threats

leaden thunder
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at least for like

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the plasma gun it's actually brittlness

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so it helps your team

viral solstice
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i mean

ornate hamlet
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lmao I only have one blessing for hand canons. Got work to do.

lethal folio
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Rending is extra damage on maniacs

viral solstice
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ye but look at what the actual effect is on a revolver

leaden thunder
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still bothers me that the plasma gun does less damage to a naked rager on a head shot then a body shot

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by a pretty big amount

ornate hamlet
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Its cuz their brains are already fried

viral solstice
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like ur sitting at idk 60-70% at worst, 40% rending... only on crits... etc etc

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i have this and i swapped hand-cannon off for crucian because in testing it was so strugglebus

lethal folio
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16% more damage to maniacs at close range, and reduced impact of distance falloff

olive ember
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whats up my fellow psykers

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in what manner are we depressed today

viral solstice
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ye but its competing with something else

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even with deadshot

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the average ttk is the same if u take eg trickshooter

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and trickshooter helps vs everything and hits some bps

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its just depressing

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and thats a best-case - where ur slotting in absurd outside crit chance

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if ur on a psyker with way lower crit chance...

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its just such a disappointing blessing

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with such a sick name

idle bay
leaden thunder
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how does trickshooter work with hitting mulitple targets in the head

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with 1 shot

viral solstice
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actually dont know, but its more just that revolver is desperate for consistent damage boosts

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so trickshooter gives u some kinda consistent utility there

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but in the end u still got a revolver

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and im also honestly surprised the revolver maniac mod is still only iodk 70% or whatever it is

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given its a stopping power weapon

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imagine they buff it and make hand-cannon even worse

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but then again with revolver its in that weird spot of having a 5-shot mag and such chonky individual damage blobs that ttk effects are very boutique

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i kinda feel like if they had normed the damage ratios around resistance at 50% rather than 100% effect

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rending would be in a v diff spot

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but shoobieFEELS

idle bay
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Siblings i'm conflicted - either to keep it like this, or switch T4 Nexus for T3 Quell

viral solstice
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keep nexus

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dont be a coward

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u want more double blobs

idle bay
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But i want to do that macro madness ๐Ÿ™‚

viral solstice
idle bay
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On the other hand - too tired to setup anything

viral solstice
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think i could hit a rager one shot on crit during vf with a maniac perk, hand-cannon and trickshooter mebbe

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ah well for another time

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now that would be a spicy one

idle bay
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Ah.. who needs macro when you can just click and press buttons really fast ๐Ÿ™‚

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I remember breaking few good mice when trying to test how fast i can click. And it seems that on peak i can go over 60 clicks per 10 seconds

wide tiger
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or over 6 clicks per second? ;p

idle bay
idle bay
twilit flicker
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It's called skill
Lmao

idle bay
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It breaks mouse though

feral verge
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all that effort for no dmg ):

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LOL LMFAO OMG

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only 207 hp

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look at this dood

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  • brought to you by high hp gaming
idle bay
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I'm using stamina Curio ๐Ÿ™‚

feral verge
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LMFAOOO LOOK AT HIM

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  • brought to you by low stamina gaming
idle bay
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It helps to tactically relocate when needed ๐Ÿ™‚ Also less Peril from blocking

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Who needs health anyway ๐Ÿ™‚

wide tiger
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Curios are a crutch, run trinkets instead

idle bay
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Health and wounds are measure of players FAILURE ๐Ÿ™‚

feral verge
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All my homies run high HP or toughness

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  • brought to you by high HP low stamina gaming
wet jacinth
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Ordo Dockets

leaden thunder
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infinite damage

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I keep saying it

feral verge
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I do like max ordo docket gaming

wet jacinth
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Flex on the poor

shut ether
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I'm an XP enjoyer myself B1

feral verge
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I have a few friends in xp maxing gaming

unborn drift
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newish player here, just got to 30, are there "must have" blessings? I see brutal momentum brought up a lot, nexus too

leaden thunder
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sluaghterer

feral verge
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Transfer peril + warpflurry on voidstrike staff

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Rending shockwave+ warp flurry on trauma staff

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Welcome sibling

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Bloodthirsty + slaughterer on force sword

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Deflector is a neat utility blessing on force sword, but not necessary

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For perks on the weapons I listed, you want unarmored (or infested, if you can't get unarmored) + flak damage

grizzled birch
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Siblings, what do you recommend I use for the blessing I can transfer on my staff?

leaden thunder
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that's a hard one

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you want a higher transfer peril

wide tiger
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what a mixed bag on that staff

leaden thunder
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but sustained fire is pretty bad

grizzled birch
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yeah :/

feral verge
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I'd keep transfer peril and put warpflurry on sustained fire

leaden thunder
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yeah

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even a t1 transfer peril is quite good

feral verge
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And change ranged DMG perk to flak dmg

grizzled birch
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Ok ๐Ÿ™‚ Thanks everyone. I appreciate it

unborn drift
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yeah thanks fort he suggestions, I'll keep my eyes out for those

feral verge
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Np

hasty ether
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just need warp flurry IV

feral verge
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I have it, it's nice

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BUT

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It's a little broken rn

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And ouch, that cloud radius is rather low

hasty ether
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it kills hordes fine on damnation

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and with the warp and quell speed I have no issues keeping the fire up

feral verge
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It'd be better with cloud radius

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Burn and cloud radius are the most important stats on purga

hasty ether
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again if I can keep the fire permanently up and keep everything constantly suppressed the Quell speed and warp resist make up for it

idle bay
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Ok... i love Void staff again.

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eh.. could be worse. So Thunderous for BM , cockwalkers for Block and it's done

feral verge
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has dueling sword drip availble

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chooses to use axe

idle bay
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Sword lack that IMPACT feeling also lacks Decapitations

feral verge
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dueling sword has swagpact

idle bay
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And Psyker laughs better when swings axe

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Axe have CLASS, swag is for boys. Class is for men

feral verge
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stfu you need about 12 more years in CLASS

topaz sable
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imagine not using psyker sword smh my head

idle bay
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Boy ๐Ÿ™‚ I am old and grumpy

long wharf
feral verge
near wyvern
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Where is the knife gang

long wharf
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in the gutter where they belong

feral verge
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dead

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because they couldnt kill the ogryn

near wyvern
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I am still rocking it

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I have a need for speed

feral verge
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has badass sword that can be imbued with warp energy

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has a few dueling swords with alot of elegance and finesse

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chooses to use small lame baby knife

near wyvern
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I will take my toothpick instead yes

topaz sable
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also anyone try not running ascendant blaze with purg staff? I've found it already deletes groups and having the fast bb and not losing warp charges is kinda cool

near wyvern
leaden thunder
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uses an axe like a man

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instead of some priss dueling toothpick

feral verge
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if i wanna feel like a man i play zealot

leaden thunder
idle bay
# near wyvern Where is the knife gang

I was to lazy to use macro, so i just spammed R with each charged slightly charge attack with Void (Surge + Nexus both t4) today. Not a full-auto, but semi-auto will do ๐Ÿ™‚

near wyvern
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Bur void goes brrr

idle bay
near wyvern
# hasty ether My purg build

Why on earth you have quietitude on purge AND with inner Tranq. It doesn't generate much peril and Battle Meditation doesn't proc quietitude.

topaz sable
idle bay
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Purg without AB it;s like wearing crocks with socks

topaz sable
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I really like warp battery + inner tranq for pretty much all the staves

lethal folio
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Purgatus doesn't need blaze

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Kinetic barrage covers where purgatus struggles.

hasty ether
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^

near wyvern
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Yeah you can run KF with AB and PA but WB is much better option with KB since you can't amp up your stacks with AB so the extra charge damage helps those flames

topaz sable
near wyvern
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Not to even mention inner tranq

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And why the hell mind in motion when you have a staff

feral verge
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madlab

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madlad*

near wyvern
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Just pick KS or chad KD which is nutty with IT and WB

idle bay
near wyvern
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My circuits fried from the missed synergies in this build

topaz sable
hasty ether
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Mind in motion works well with KB especially in damnation

topaz sable
hasty ether
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you don't really need deflection or shield because you just pop out start BB a target and then go back behind cover

feral verge
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MIM is bad in comparison to the other perks

near wyvern
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There is nothing wrong brining KB with purge but if you do so then for the love of Emperor have the decensy to pick EH, IT, PA/CL, KD/KS, WB, KB

topaz sable
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if you have 6 warp charges ascendant blaze will 100% kill anything not an elite/specialist

hasty ether
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anything melee gets suppressed by the staff so you shouldn't be getting hit at all

feral verge
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KD is goat for getting clutch rezzes off

near wyvern
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With 4 stacks each time

topaz sable
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I've always liked it as a utility to delete patrols or lots of shooters at distance at once, I haven't tried using it with PA before

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since the purg staff is weak against ranged stuff

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I like the idea of what you're saying though, I might have to try it out

mild vapor
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is there an up to date wiki that says what our talents do. What is a "warp attack". What is a "force weapon"

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(I know what they are, but what does fatshark say they are)

near wyvern
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And when it's a horde and you see ragers running at you, you want to ult before they start to die

empty path
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Which perk should I reroll? And what should I try to get?

feral verge
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100% sprint effiecney

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for flak

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infested enemy dmg is the next best thing

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if you cant get unarmored

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flak is a must though

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crit rate isn't a bad option too

empty path
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Just got 25% flak, Thanks.

foggy tangle
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all I want is a decent trauma staff but all the store will give me are catachan swords and autoguns clown_hadron

empty path
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Gun psyker incoming?

gilded viper
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thought u guess what i was running rn KEKW

feral verge
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manlet psyker spotted

empty path
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Are there any tips to getting Pick N' Mix or is it just rng? Can't seem to get that 5th burst.

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I'm already running Kinetic Barrage.

gilded viper
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i got mine on the missiion where you wait for the aircraft to get u after pressing two buttons (not the train one), it have like a 6 man gunner wave where u can KB and get it there

empty path
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On damn? And you mean the square with the raised section?

gilded viper
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yeah

empty path
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I'll have to try that.

idle bay
# empty path Are there any tips to getting Pick N' Mix or is it just rng? Can't seem to get t...

Also Chasm Terminus assassination. Right at the start there are enough elites spawns on the bridge (few may spawn in train car to the right). And all you need to stay above, and send a teammate to trigger every pack on bridge - so you can easily do Pick And Mix, and having vet that can highlight all of them for you will also help. Damnation is way to go - higher chances to get that bridge really crowded.

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Plus side- you can restart and have few more tries while that mission is up.

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Another area to do it - is Consignment Yard finale, large open space with trains where you need to disable 2 turrets and then wait.
Initial area poulation on Heresy and Damnation have high chance to have enough elites for Pick n Mix, you just need a team that can hold their horses for you.

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Got mine randomly though without having goal in mind of doing it all ๐Ÿ™‚

shadow wigeon
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I am trying to love void, but it feels really weak in clutch situations, and in general I find myself more exposed than purg to random melee. It's amazing vs hordes, obviously, but I feel like I lost more utility than I gained (from surge, or even purg). Any thoughts about playing it better?

idle bay
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Works with guns as well. Not just with staffs

feral verge
idle bay
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And you still do a lot of stagger and Suppression on top of that - so you are massively contibuting

shadow wigeon
shadow wigeon
idle bay
shadow wigeon
idle bay
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It's about simply having some extra fun before its fixed ๐Ÿ™‚

shadow wigeon
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what T1 feat do you prefer with void? - rather is anyone using other than warp abs

steel flame
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i personally prefer warp absorption. you're killing so much trash with each shot that youll be getting a full toughness bar back if you so much as breath at a group of enemies

west galleon
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You cant touch this mind!

feral verge
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my purga staff feels nice

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scored 736 criticals

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in a reg damnation game

leaden thunder
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poptart staff

feral verge
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poptart staff

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i think

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even with the warp flurry bug

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it's worth it

shadow wigeon
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Or if this is your t4 flurry waiting to be bankd.

feral verge
feral verge
steel flame
fiery atlas
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i love me surge staff

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kind of a fun pick to have

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v good cc on specials too for what it does

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even if it doesn't kill

feral verge
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the build im running with tha purga poptart

fiery atlas
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poptart

feral verge
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poptart

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all of my staves have poptart skin

spice veldt
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you must get hungry every time you play

feral verge
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it do be my fav staff model

fiery atlas
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"he's fondling his poptart again"

feral verge
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it got tha mage's guild eye symbol from oblivion tho

timid storm
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I had no idea you could equip different staff models

fiery atlas
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ye you can

feral verge
fiery atlas
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i think you can do it with operative cosmetics from armoury

timid storm
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I assumed the skins only applied to the specific staff

timid storm
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Im changing my purg staff

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I dont like purg model

feral verge
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in that cosmetic purchase menu, it says the ksins are equipable on all the staves

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you can put purga on trauma, vice versa

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whatever you like

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i like poptart model, and i like to think it trolls ppl a little

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when they see me with poptart, expecting another boring surge psyker

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but boom. explosions from poptart

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pleasant surprise

fiery atlas
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need to have fun w/ trauma staff more

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i know you have stuff like purg which is op but other staves have their purpose

timid storm
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I wish they added more models for staffs

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I feel like every staff is really good

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Purg is OP up close only, but is so screwed at range

feral verge
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trauma staff fucks hard

timid storm
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Trauma 1 taps most thinks and isnt stopped by bulwarks

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Things*

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Voidstrike 1 taps at range but sucks up close

feral verge
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trauma needs warp flurry to really start fucking shit up

timid storm
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And surge feels mid IMO since it's like jack of all trades kinda thing

feral verge
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i think warp flurry is overall, the best blessing for staves (granted, if it werent partially bugged for purga and surge)

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cant say no to faster cast speed

timid storm
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How does it work for purg?

feral verge
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the same as anyother staff

timid storm
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Ive been running run n gun + focused channelling

feral verge
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you do you

timid storm
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Might change focused to warp nexus

feral verge
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but run and gun is seen as a meme

timid storm
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Run n gun is OP tho

feral verge
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lol

timid storm
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It's the only blessing thay actually does stuff

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The others are decent

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Warp nexus is nice, but not gamechanging considering an extra stack wont do much on hordes

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Flame uptime is already 100% without flurry

timid storm
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Focused channeling isnt super required either

feral verge
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i uploaded a video of warp flurry iv on purga

timid storm
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And barrage is useless

feral verge
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warp flurry + warp nexus is the go-to combo

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736 crits

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thanks to warp nexus + 5% crit rate

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warp nexus isnt amazing, but it's the best we got for purga and surge, other than warp flurry (which i acknowledge is a little bugged rn)

timid storm
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Being able to sprint and stagger enemies is very powerful

leaden thunder
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it's nice sure but idk if i'd say very powerful

timid storm
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Compared to the other options

feral verge
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tbh i like to defer to 'public opinion' alot most of the time. and never have i ever heard anyone here reccomend run and gun unironically. it gets meme'd on, hard

leaden thunder
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compared to dealing more damage

spice veldt
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since you can do the same while sliding

leaden thunder
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^

timid storm
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It's not like insane, but it's a huge improvement

leaden thunder
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and you also don't get shot while sliding

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but while sprinting psyker takes some extra damage

timid storm
spice veldt
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or focused channeling that prevents your cast from being interrupted while getting shot at

feral verge
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dont you take more damage when spriting

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yeahg

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nvm

timid storm
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Focused channeling is super nice too

feral verge
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its usually pretty easy to not get interrupted

shadow wigeon
timid storm
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But idk, with sliding, the change in momentum is super annoying, plus with this i can run into backlines and stagger everyone along the way

feral verge
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it definitely works @shadow wigeon BUT

twilit flicker
#

I think you only get interrupted from taking health damage, is that right? Reapers and gunners maybe an exception?

feral verge
#

upon getting the 5th/last stack of warp flurry, there's some small pause

timid storm
spice veldt
#

taking damage at max toughness will stagger you out of a cast

feral verge
#

where you gain peril, but the charge bar doesnt move

#

something like that

shadow wigeon
feral verge
#

mt video

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my video

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you can see the bar moving faster

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here is @near wyvern bug report

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here is my video

shadow wigeon
#

Did you actually check the time though? When I frame checked it was not faster.

feral verge
#

yesterday, i believe skaleek checked too and found that it was working

leaden thunder
#

esp with the mod to see when blessings are working making it easier to check

feral verge
#

also in pygex's bug report

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he mentions the last stack being broken

#

he doesnt mention the blessing itself being completely broken

#

in my video, you can see my warp flurry stacks going up, with that mod @leaden thunder

leaden thunder
#

yep

timid storm
#

I want more psyker skins

#

Im so curious as to what the update will be this month

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"Big update"

clear heath
feral verge
#

i mean, they got that loud

shadow wigeon
#

Oh that's so weird. Yeah Warp Flurry works but that animation delay makes 5 stack war flurry almost the same as 0 stack ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

clear heath
#

I wasn't expecting to get groaner asmr today

robust relic
#

Provocative question - does the damage stat even matter? I have up in my shop a force sword with 55% dmg and one with 78%. They do 60/100 dmg vs 62/104. I really, really doubt any breakpoints will change based on that tiny damage difference...

shadow wigeon
leaden thunder
#

more damage is more good

#

depends on the weapon tho

shadow wigeon
#

FS does have a high multiplier on WS/Crit though, so it will get compounded.

summer prairie
#

First target also affects that number

shadow wigeon
#

And finesse has a big impact on damage as well

robust relic
summer prairie
#

Do those weapons have the same first target stat, otherwise you can't compare them like that

shadow wigeon
#

I think what he means is First Target can have a 20% swing, and Finesse can lose you 30% (on ws/crit) with low numbers.
The base damage is not the most important stat.

robust relic
summer prairie
#

The base damage is already modified by first target

robust relic
#

Oh I see first is already computed, hrm, let me reevaluate

shadow wigeon
#

In a sense you can just look at the top line number, since that's what you'll be drawing most of the time.

feral verge
#

2 triple psyker missions in a row

#

i quit if there are 3 lol

shadow wigeon
sweet drift
#

Guy really has to remind you why hes called a groaner

robust relic
summer prairie
#

I don't know about FS damage ranges, but for something like the combat knife the damage range is fairly significant when you take all three stats into account.

#

People do over emphasize the damage stat, yes

shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

FS has some breakpoints, so you'll prob want to test it in the meatgrinder

#

for whatever reason (because I'm wrong), my calculations always differ from the numbers I get in the meatgrinder so I have to test things out

summer prairie
#

Just use the calculator

spice veldt
#

oh right

robust relic
summer prairie
shadow wigeon
#

The difference between 50% and 80% (on all 3 stats) is a WS hit of 108 vs 150. So that's the max range you're playing in.

Each stat has about a 10% swing, so they almost equally contribute.

viral solstice
#

its worth considering that numbers are fake

spice veldt
#

you're fake

feral verge
#

am i detecting anti-crab hate

viral solstice
#

much too think about

feral verge
#

another malice game lost on my alt psyker

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lol

viral solstice
#

did u at least suicide

feral verge
#

the other players make it harder than damnation

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nope

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i suicidce al lthe time on main lmao

#

but not on alt

viral solstice
#

?? no wonder u lost

#

bring ur a game

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or dont bother

feral verge
#

where the trauma staff sucks and you can only cast it 3 times before blowing up

viral solstice
#

on malice u should be hitting like 6-7 suicides a game

feral verge
#

yueah true

#

i could kill alot in hordes

viral solstice
#

i killed a dog with ogryn psyker earlier

feral verge
#

he has become died

hollow creek
feral verge
#

lmao based

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i got a mod that lets you reorder your characters

#

i was legit excitedf when i found it

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now main can be on top

#

haha

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my Mai n character

rich rose
#

+Still trying to figure out the blessings for a devils claw

viral solstice
#

alas

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there are not really any good ones

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rampage isnt the worst

#

other than i guess avoid impact ones

feral verge
#

Need a precog exorcist force sword bad

timid storm
#

Im between bloodthirsty and deflector

#

Cant decide

#

I know the other will be blazing spirit bc fire is dope

viral solstice
#

bloodthirsty

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bloodthirst = more fire sword

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deflector = more cowardice

#

the fire must lead u

lethal folio
#

Rampage/Savage sweep usually works wall on claws.

timid storm
feral verge
#

Do bloodthirsty

timid storm
#

But walking forward with deflector kinda dope

#

Makes me feel like a jedi

past crest
#

any working on out with a bang?

feral verge
#

Make a separate sword with deflector

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So you can have both

shadow wigeon
#

I tried both, and it's ok. Getting value from deflector is hard though.

timid storm
#

I get that. Guess it's time to find blazing spirit and bloodthirsty

#

My blazing spirit is jn my deflector sword

shadow wigeon
#

GL tho

timid storm
#

I dont want to run any of the peril based blessings since im usually pretty low on peril

shadow wigeon
#

I get about 9 L1's after bloodthirsty procs, so you can apply a lot of flame.. I just don't find it useful.

#

It's righteous, though.

#

Also casually setting people on fire from normal crits is funny.

timid storm
#

Nearly all my feats are flame based

#

So getting stacks from melee too would be nice

shadow wigeon
#

The issue I found is that if I'm meleeing something, I'd rather just kill it, then let it burn. But you could probably find a way to do it.

timid storm
#

That's true

#

But 4 per swing is pretty solid, especially in a horde

#

Id imagine burn would kill a few

shadow wigeon
timid storm
#

Oh dope

shadow wigeon
#

Takes some discipline to just swing once and move on, but it does work.

#

When bloodthirsty procs, it actually keeps going for a few seconds - enough to get 9 L1's off for me.

timid storm
#

In those big hordes might be nice, big swing and then focus on some other guys while they burn

rain saddle
#

hmm could i build for crit?

shadow wigeon
feral verge
#

Crit not the best

#

Unfortunately

timid storm
river sand
#

nah

feral verge
#

Nah

rain saddle
#

yeah but replacing barrage with transfer peril it seems like it would be ok

feral verge
#

I think it'd be ok

#

But

#

If you wanted a good staff

#

Transfer peril and Warp flurry

river sand
#

surge + crit is like a 25% dmg buff, while flurry alone gets roughly 75%

rain saddle
#

another t4 blessing in the vault then lol

empty path
austere estuary
#

which perk would you reroll on this Trauma?

spice veldt
#

groaners/poxwalkers to unarmoured for dreg enemies

#

flak is useful for shotgunners/gunners (dreg variants also have a base armour type of flak)

dire smelt
#

or better

#

reroll the staff

cold geode
#

id reroll to using snipping tool instead of taking pictures of your damned monitor

spice veldt
#

the edges look pretty straight so it might be HDR or something

cold geode
#

mebee

austere estuary
#

it's HDR

#

using snipping tool

cold geode
#

ahh that makes sense then

austere estuary
#

yes, it does

#

unlike your bitching about phone picture ๐Ÿ™‚

shut skiff
#

.

feral verge
#

Nah 'ppl' who take pics with phone are subhuman

#

Leave that for vet chat

long orchid
#

Just for that comment they are buffing Vet by 25 percent

cold geode
#

lol

#

only 25?

long orchid
#

sorry patch notes were bugged its acually 75 percent

idle fog
leaden thunder
#

bloodthirsty is good for the force sword

#

but not op

spice veldt
#

especially good when paired with slaughterer to get an initial damage boost for more kills

#

stonks

idle fog
feral verge
#

Phone pic ppl will literally be like

#

What perk do I????

#

nd blesing?? ?

spice veldt
#

nice warp flurry and nexus on your purgatus staff

wide tiger
feral verge
#

im not making fun of verydave

#

im making fun of the ppl who post phone pics like this

wide tiger
#

Oh i see

#

yeah well, teach a man to fish lol

feral verge
#

@spice veldt

wide tiger
#

dear god

leaden thunder
wide tiger
#

Paste them this for me @feral verge

spice veldt
#

i can still tell what staff it is

#

pls fix your picture

feral verge
#

i will admit i dont snip lol

#

i just use steam screenshot

leaden thunder
#

same

spice veldt
#

i use windows snipping tool

feral verge
#

he uses windows snipping tool

spice veldt
#

like the high class person i am

feral verge
#

im ifne with being middle class

#

i harbor no illusions

spice veldt
#

middle class isn't real

feral verge
#

im fine with being the absolute most profane primordial dreg of the lowest of the low echelon of society

wide tiger
#

windows snipping tool is so eeeeasy though

blissful mural
#

Any bets on what the new nerf is gonna be?

wide tiger
#

probably unlimited dodge on fs

feral verge
#

.

wide tiger
#

Oh

#

i have a good candidate

#

Purgatus staff collateral nerf after flamer

#

flamer was overperforming so we gave them better blessings and nerfed the range on purgatus

shadow wigeon
# idle fog Is bloodthirsty OP? Or did the special attack already kill without it

Not OP. Special heavy will kill scab rager already, and +25 maniac special heavy will take out dreg rager as well.

Bloodthirsty lets you run some interesting combos, chaining a warp kill into crit into another crit-warp-kill that keeps it going.

For instance... WS on maniac is 244, WS crit is 339, so it's another 50% almost.

Also warp into a regular mob, and then your next 9 lights are all crits... which are 2.3X more damage. It's not a huge deal, but it kills very quickly.

#

The real issue that that the charge and charged-kill are both slow, so you are vulnerable. So you can't just do it for free all the time.

ornate hamlet
#

Think I prefer purg to void. Am I missing something with it?

steady skiff
#

what would be the go to blessings on purg?

ornate hamlet
#

Warp Nexus is great

feral verge
#

nah purga is really solid tbh

#

void is great but

#

purga is very solid

steady skiff
#

i will probably do one for both...

ornate hamlet
#

I hear people saying void and trauma > purg and I'm confused because they both seem underwhelming

feral verge
#

@steady skiff you're looking for this, exactly pretty much

#

burn and cloud radius are the most important stats

spice veldt
#

purg is the best staff broadly speaking

steady skiff
#

probably gonna do something with that at some point just cant give it away...

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah I was a purg main so I thought I'd try the others. Dey aight

near gale
#

Wth? I wasn't even chasing "circles"...

steady skiff
#

keeping it for 2 months now lol

feral verge
#

get rid of run and gun and put transfer peril and you have a good voidstrike

#

run and gun is a meme

near gale
#

That was with a surge staff and Antax xD

steady skiff
feral verge
#

i read warp nexus as warp flurry

#

so it wont be great

#

but it should be good

steady skiff
#

these are my current options with purg i know not great and i locked sprint efficiency but i had a 1 perk i think...

#

but mods are already decent

#

tho i also do have these for crafting

austere estuary
#

ahhh man, what a kick in the teeth final consecrate

shadow wigeon
austere estuary
#

well at least it's easy to decide what to reroll on it

#

for me it's trauma, purg, void, then a long long gap, then surge on which staves I enjoy most

shadow wigeon
austere estuary
#

all three that aren't surge I generally have fun with though

steady skiff
spice veldt
#

i hate void because it's a slow fire-rate projectile weapon; I hate purg because it has a short range and is boring to use; I hate surge because it's boring to use

shadow wigeon
#

use the top left one until you get a big jump in power.

steady skiff
#

Nah Just didnt really Play psyker since Jan...

shadow wigeon
#

I would replace run and gun when you can, as it doesnt add much.

steady skiff
#

So the 439

shadow wigeon
wide tiger
#

Although i wouldnt say void is a slow-fire rate with animation cancelling, unless you mean it charges slow

spice veldt
#

charges slow

wide tiger
#

that it do

spice veldt
#

and I dislike having to quell-cancel repeatedly unless I have to

wide tiger
#

yeah i get that

spice veldt
#

too much APM and it's one of the few things that I don't like practicing

steady skiff
wide tiger
#

Is the emperor trying to tell me something:

stable silo
#

whats bis dueling sword

wide tiger
#

MIV or V both have their upsides and downsides

spice veldt
#

probably rampage + shred/uncanny

stable silo
#

dang i got a 2

wide tiger
#

MKIV for offense, MKV for defense

spice veldt
#

MKV has a nice two cleave on their heavies

wide tiger
#

I have a rampage/uncanny, and i prefer my shred/riposte, crits do big damage

austere estuary
stuck sinew
#

Ayo Hadron not being a contemptable harlot for once

wide tiger
#

rampage is a bit of a hassle cause you need to do push attack to trigger it

#

at least on the V

#

i think on the IV you might be able to heavy activate

stuck sinew
#

The II has the sweep heavy

spice veldt
#

on all duelling swords since their normals have 2 cleave, so the only enemy you can cleave three times are groaners

stuck sinew
#

IV is the vermintide rapier

shadow wigeon
steady skiff
#

Not really a psyker Main so dont know how Long that will Take but we will see thanks for the Tips tho

#

Whats better nex or flurry?

shadow wigeon
steady skiff
#

I Always Liked flurry but i dont know how effective Nexus is...

wide tiger
near wyvern
shadow wigeon
steady skiff
#

So flurry and learn Handling the stacks

wide tiger
#

flurry stacks pretty easy to handle, nexus is tricky, fatshark has been hella slow to fix it

cyan notch
#

flurry works on all stacks but the delay is also always there

near wyvern
#

You can also stack up flurry using LMB and staff special (even in air). However, the first RMB after doing so will have the pause bug so do 4 LMB or 4 special and then a quick RMB and from that point you are at full flurry with everything working. This is especially useful on Trauma when there is a horde incoming as you can save a huge amount of peril using the special attack in air.

ornate hamlet
#

๐Ÿ‘๏ธ ๐Ÿ‘„ ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
#

?

near wyvern
#

Damage table

#

Inspect

#

V and then tab

ornate hamlet
near wyvern
#

Show the heavy damage

ornate hamlet
#

A bit anticlimatic

near wyvern
# ornate hamlet

You put a +25 flak on it or get a +20 while upgrading and that knife one shots everything but elites and specials on heavy and push attack headshots

ornate hamlet
#

Is there a way to tell in game what a heavy, special or elite is?

long wharf
#

elites are pre-spawned on the map

near wyvern
#

Heavy attack is when you hold the attack

ornate hamlet
#

Ah, you meant heavy attack

#

derp

#

I meant how to tell diff between elite and special ingame without googling.

#

Like, where's the ingame source?

near wyvern
#

Elites are:

  • gunners
  • shotgunners
  • maulers
  • ragers
  • bulwark
  • crusher
  • reaper

Specials are:

  • sniper
  • flamers
  • bomber
  • trapper
  • hound
  • burster
  • mutant
grizzled jasper
#

Where do you put barrels

spice veldt
#

you can also go into the psykanium as a psyker and smack enemies around
if you notice a random +10% damage against that particular enemy, then they're an elite

near wyvern
feral verge
#

anyone run into a psyker named Bear in damnation?

#

probably the sweatiest, yet best psyker ive ever seen

#

ive run into them a few times

near wyvern
wide tiger
feral verge
#

and all of oyu laughed when i told you about my staff special attack build

wide tiger
#

I take my staff special very seriously.

feral verge
#

"it's useless" you all said "it does no damage you all said" "

leaden thunder
#

does it stay stacked?

feral verge
#

look who's laughing now

stuck sinew
near wyvern
leaden thunder
#

I know I tested blaze away with weapons that have a bash

#

and the bash would stack it

#

but the stacks would go away when I shot

long wharf
#

specials technically spawn individually

feral verge
#

ahh, a true apostle of the bonk

wide tiger
near wyvern
# leaden thunder does it stay stacked?

It stays when you switch over to RMB yes but the first RMB cast will have the pause bug, so do 4 special into a quick charge RMB and you are at full speed from that on.

feral verge
#

i see sniper pairs often

long wharf
#

they can spawn rapidly, yes

leaden thunder
#

loregryn I see

feral verge
#

where there's one, there's often a second

#

probably one of the cheekiest spawns in the game

#

cuz you let your guard down, think you're safe

#

then boom

dreamy gale
#

Snipers have a sound cue on spawn?

feral verge
#

you get schmegeggied

wide tiger
#

thats everytime i walk by a spawn door

lethal folio
#

They don't use their cue.

spice veldt
#

they don't have a sound cue

near wyvern
spice veldt
#

but if it's quiet, then it's obvious that they spawn because a door will randomly open without any noise

lethal folio
#

There is a cue, just unused.

leaden thunder
#

of course

#

thanks fat shark

wide tiger
#

isnt the cue made by player characters?

#

i always hear someone say sniper

spice veldt
#

if I'm just walking and I hear a door randomly opening, then I'm on high ass alert

feral verge
#

i think 80% of the time your character mentions sniper when its too late

near wyvern
#

The only sound cue you get is when someone yells FUCK THIS SHIT in discord when they got hit by the 360 no scope aiming is for pussies sniper

feral verge
#

like it's already shooting

wide tiger
#

nah i usually get it before

feral verge
#

rarely your character will say sniper, even though you haven't actually spotted it and it hasnt shot yet

#

in my expeirence

feral verge
#

experience

#

i'm alot of things

#

most of them bad

#

melk time

#

melk time melk time

cold geode
#

you can melk me anytime

wide tiger
#

cmon bloodthirsty forcesword ive waited so looong

feral verge
#

IT'S GOT THE PRECOG

#

SUCCESS

#

WE ARE IN BUSINESS

ornate hamlet
#

Hey what's bis blessings for dagger?

near wyvern
#

It is rather clear that they designed the blessings in a hurry as 10% of them are bugged, 80% are useless or provide too low numbers and 10% are actually good and have an impact.

leaden thunder
#

executor + uncanny strikes imo

#

bleed stuff is shite unless you are zealot and even then I think it's questionable

near wyvern
# ornate hamlet Hey what's bis blessings for dagger?

For psyker? You either get the lacerate + mercy killer combo or then you get rending on weak spots with anything else you get.

Most important is to have it so push attack one shots all trash. Then you just enable kinetic deflection and off you go to spam your push attack.

shadow wigeon
long wharf
#

what the shit Sour Milk

#

not a t4 I was looking for

leaden thunder
#

it's a free 5% damage increase on you staff

near wyvern
#

Rending on weakspot is really nice as it allows you to deal with maulers and crushers if they get you cornered.

near wyvern
leaden thunder
near wyvern
#

And CL obviously

#

So of you like to run KB, WB and CL a lot, it's a nice buff

ornate hamlet
#

How's Dumdum for a blessing on recon lasgun?

near wyvern
ornate hamlet
#

I bring this in, and it melts whatever I point it at

near wyvern
#

And I can bully all but bulwarks with it to keep them perma staggered

ornate hamlet
#

I mean true, infinite ammo, but then you gotta worry about warp cost, going pop, you don't have a zoom function, your rate of fire is slower..

#

(and interrupts if going for full charge)

near wyvern
#

Who said anything about going full charge, I go full auto

ornate hamlet
#

K, I see that, and to be honest, I'd fall asleep doing that.

#

WHile it certainly seems viable, I'd lose my mind.

near wyvern
#

I use trauma mostly but it's always funny to give that staff a spin every now and then

ornate hamlet
#

So back to the question. Would that burning perk be better, or dumdum? I think the burning perk, given the build.

#

g2g, dinner time with the kids.

shadow wigeon
near wyvern
cyan notch
#

fire sword has been made

near wyvern
long wharf
#

hhnnnnnnnnngh

#

what perk did you reroll that you kept sprint efficiency?

near wyvern
#

It's still a bit meme tho I presume

cyan notch
#

i bought a purple one from melk with bs4

#

it was uh 8% specialist

shadow wigeon
#

I wasn't sure what to reroll, bc +crit procs the occasional burn stack while randomly fighting.

near wyvern
#

That combined with my void and it would be glorious

cyan notch
#

it gets to 12 stacks so quick lol

#

one special or 3 swipes

shadow wigeon
#

FWIW after bloodthristy proc, you can get 9 L1's off

#

(at least)

near wyvern
#

Yeah the special surely does massive damage with it

#

Too bad the sword doesn't cleave that well

cyan notch
#

l1 h2 seems to work decently

shadow wigeon
near wyvern
#

Yeah the heavies have better cleave

#

I have like 2 out of 11 FS tier 4 blessings unlocked

#

I craft 2 sword per day

#

For staves I got constant tier 4's

#

Most of them are done or missing 1 or 2 for tier 4

wide tiger
#

yeah right there with you

#

i have one t4 blessing

#

and its from melk

#

and i've crafted over a hundred blue fs, probably over 10 yellow

#

not a single force weapon in melks today, status quo

cyan notch
#

i had 2 in 5 characters

fiery atlas
#

Kept falling down tonight because of specials

#

Kept popping up all over the place

#

Wasn't even hi int either DoggoLaugh

rare rock
#

would this be a good option for my psyker melee? im using a 478 mk N duelling sword with precognition 3 + uncanny strike 4

#

i use purgatus but i cant find a good power sword to use with

#

so i just gave up

shadow wigeon
#

MK5 is great. Really needs brutal momentum though

steel flame
#

quick question is there a higher chance for crafting better blessing going from purple to gold than green to blue

shadow wigeon
#

Bromomentum + Head Taker / Decimator / Thrust dependin how you play.

rare rock
#

hmm ok, so i'll wait for a better one or i'll try to craft it

#

ty

shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

just keep in mind that the push-attack will only damage three enemies at most and deal zero to the 4th target and beyond

leaden thunder
#

it is also

shadow wigeon
leaden thunder
#

worse damage then a light on the first target

#

ye it's decent control

rare rock
#

hmm ok, i'll keep that in mind, im still learning what to use, i can play ok but im lost with the stats

#

ty

shadow wigeon
# rare rock ty

FWIW MK5 Combat Axe is my preferred weapon. Force Sword has some pretty fun blessings but MK5 is very effective.

rare rock
#

good to know, i usually like axes in games like these just for aesthetics

rain saddle
#

bcr on the dueling sword makes it hilarious

feral verge
#

anyone actually try the myster acquisitions from melk

#

i aint gonna do it, i heard it's bad

feral verge
#

but just curious

shadow wigeon
#

I got 50% greys from it

feral verge
#

lol

shadow wigeon
#

have tried a few times

#

it's so bad

feral verge
#

thanks fatshark

shadow wigeon
#

curios are so random, that wasnt worth it either

snow panther
#

it shouldnt be possible to get a grey at melks

cyan notch
#

u can with the mystery gift shit

snow panther
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oh, yeh thats what i meant, they shouldnt allow that to ever roll a grey

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oh damn i was thinking, maybe this is off base, but it would be cool if they allowed trading, so that there was a player market where u could buy and sell weapons for melkbucks and aquilas ๐Ÿค”

cyan notch
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(it aint happening)

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but sure

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watch people sell god rolls for like 1m melkbucks

olive ember
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It will happen if you just believed

onyx oracle
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Hi all, what is the best all round staff to use now? Voidstrike? or just Surge and BB?

frail berry
olive ember
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hes using a macro

spice veldt
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quell in-between your shots

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LMB -> R -> LMB -> R -> etc.

frail berry
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Like with autohotkey or something?

quasi hare
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What are the best blessings for the mk5 axe ? Running it with purg staff for a solid 1 hit on an elites

ember hornet
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@viral solstice i just want you to know that you have inspired me to type bang every time I blow up now

manic palm
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whats BIS stuff for sword now?

ember hornet
ember hornet
# manic palm

if you have shred I think you want the soulblaze blessing

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and go for crit blaze

cyan notch
ember hornet
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otherwise slaughterer

manic palm
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i see

spice veldt
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bloodthirsty + slaughterer for an offensive FS

ember hornet
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crit blaze is funny, slaughterer always good

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I run an unstable w/ warp unleashed for easy elite one shots

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especially muties

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it's fun, probably not the best though

cyan notch
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unstable is pretty good

austere estuary
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melk looking for my marks

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time to bank that blessing

vagrant frigate
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it sucks unfortunantely

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:/

austere estuary
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it sucks now

vagrant frigate
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maybe they buff eventually

austere estuary
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yeah LUL

fiery atlas
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i am asking for fatshark to PLEASE

austere estuary
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I'd rather waste the marks incase it gets buffed

fiery atlas
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make it where snipers!

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can't snipe us from behind boxes!!

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from the very tip of our heads!!!

austere estuary
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than save them and see them buff it

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snipers are playing cod

fiery atlas
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it has cost me very crucial points in the game

spice veldt
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there's a section in the ammo raid map where you drop down into the area with train tracks before the finale

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I've tried to hide behind a box at the very back by a barrel, and crouching isn't good enough to hide from the god damn sniper

fiery atlas
dense panther
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rampage vs shred on dueling sword?

feral verge
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shred is more consistent

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it's easier to chain multiple hits with shred

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than it is to cleave through 3 targets with rampage

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shred is also more universal

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works on 1 target, or 300

dense panther
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true

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good points

feral verge
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rampage only kicks in if you happen to hit 3 targets, which afaik is only possible wit the push attack

dense panther
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what are people running on surge staff these days

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did they fix warp flurry?

fiery atlas
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yeah don't run rampage on dueling sword

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it's not funny