trauma imo
#psyker-class
feral verge
wet jacinth
Surge/purgatus
wide tiger
if you wanna do no damage and pretend to feel important cause you cc, use surge
feral verge
trauma actually kills shit
spice veldt
i main trauma so I'll give my unbiased opinion that trauma is better
wet jacinth
if you wanna do no damage and pretend to feel important cause you cc, use surge
Based.
stable silo
Thats what i thought but people were like use surge you noob
willow hazel
Surge does good damage, just not to unarmored
feral verge
surge is the most boring staff
if surge does good damage, then purga, void, and trauma do amazing damage...
willow hazel
Surge lets you play so aggressive though
wet jacinth
surge is the most boring staff
Can be said about every staff unfortunately
leaden thunder
surge does good against like flak
which tbf
is a lot of enemies
but it's pretty bad damage wise outside of that
spice veldt
i don't think the damage of trauma is that much more impressive, but I prefer the AoE over the limited target count of surge
feral verge
and rending shockwave
leaden thunder
truama does do have the benefit of not carrying about enemy health type
willow hazel
but it's pretty bad damage wise outside of that
Surges damage to maniac and unyielding is 2/3s of flak. It still kills them
Hounds, Snipers, and poxwalkers are the only real things it doesn't work vs.
ornate hamlet
we care about ogryn weapons
stuck sorrel
spice veldt
dreg enemies aren't real
willow hazel
yeah them too
spice veldt
i also never realized that surge had a comparable charge scaling to trauma
2.7 to 1.8 lmao
kind jay
is this axe bis for psyker
spice veldt
relies too much on headshots for damage imo
ornate hamlet
wet jacinth
You need
cold geode
dem error cubes
lethal lagoon
Surge is the weapon you recommend if your grandma wants to play. The stats don't really matter, it makes you feel like you are carrying(you aren't, on boss missions you might as well be 3 manning), and it's super easy to use.
wet jacinth
You need this to make that axe meta
lethal lagoon
I love using it when I'm tired or lazy
feral verge
Surge is the weapon you recommend if your grandma wants to play. The stats don't...
this tbh imo
fair kayak
HOLD THE PHONE
do they not have daylight savings in the 41st milenium?>
does the shop now update an hour later
spice veldt
yup
ornate hamlet
do they not have daylight savings in the 41st milenium?>
the emperor is the light, not the sun
spice veldt
surge does like 250 damage on a full charge crit against plogryn
we got jebaited yesterday by daylight savings
our disappointment was moved an hour forward
ornate hamlet
cold geode
what about a man hound for a new class?
ornate hamlet
when you saved too much daylight
spice veldt
ba dum tss
cold geode
needa turn off bloom ffs
ornate hamlet
needa turn off bloom ffs
cold geode
gods of terra
leaden thunder
THE MIGHTY SUN
spice veldt
a heat ray firing into the mourningstar
cold geode
CLOSE THE BLAST SHUDDERS FFS
shut ether
Surge is the weapon you recommend if your grandma wants to play. The stats don't...
This makes no sense. Everyone should be meleeing the boss for the most part. Whoever has the best horde clear focuses on that
lethal lagoon
Other than phase skipping the last part of the boss, psyker has the worst melee. So having Trauma or Purg is better for bosses by a mile.
shut ether
Other than phase skipping the last part of the boss, psyker has the worst melee....
My antaxe begs to differ
spice veldt
the shield takes 3x melee damage and has a damage cap, so there's a limit to how well you can do anyways
ornate hamlet
Other than phase skipping the last part of the boss, psyker has the worst melee....
clearly you don't have a good combat axe with decimator + headtaker
lethal lagoon
Ah.... us psykers really be having that main character syndrome
spice veldt
the force sword does have absolutely ass damage if it doesn't hit weakspots though
shut ether
the shield takes 3x melee damage and has a damage cap, so there's a limit to how...
Yes but you are better off contributing toward that limit rather than hoping your team can do it.
lethal lagoon
If I see a surge staff on a boss mission I know we in for a rough time, I've never been proven wrong.
shut ether
If I see a surge staff on a boss mission I know we in for a rough time, I've nev...
That makes 0 sense
spice veldt
yeah; my point is that melee between different characters is going to be roughly comparable
ornate hamlet
as if bosses are tough
spice veldt
i'm in agreement with the point that we should be whacking the boss
lethal lagoon
I mean look, this chat is probably filled with better players than normal. However, that doesn't change the fact surge is not great lmao. Just because you can make up for it doesn't really mean anything.
fierce sinew
my favorite is when they surge 6 of the poxwalker adds instead of doing anything whatsoever to the boss (or remainder of the adds)
shut ether
I don't even play surge staff. I just think your judgement of it is wrong.
olive ember
I'll believe im being carried on surge when I don't have to pick up half my team
ornate hamlet
I don't even play surge staff. I just think your judgement of it is wrong.
same
spice veldt
I agree that surge is meh; I only disagree with the statement that other classes are significantly better at ganking the boss' shield
shut ether
Idk I've played with some pretty good surge psykers. Of course you have the bad ones who throw trash behind you.
twilit flicker
going to do a run with gray weapons, blue curios, and only essence harvest enabled.
fierce sinew
I'll believe im being carried on surge when I don't have to pick up half my team
camo vets camping on a box telling themselves the same thing btw
shut ether
Oh I meant Trama my b
spice veldt
trauma psykers sabotaging surge users
shut ether
Surge pairs well when I am playing voidstrike though
olive ember
camo vets camping on a box telling themselves the same thing btw
XD i mean
they are camo vets tho
ornate hamlet
surge compliments the group if you are paired with vets
purge compliments the group if you are paired with orgy or zealot
void compliments groups that are searching the whole map thoroughly, and taking a long time to complete missions
trauma compliments groups that already have a purg psyker or flamer zealot.
olive ember
fierce sinew
not saying surge players are always carried, but "my team keeps dying -> I'm not the problem" is more complicated than perhaps you're making it sound kek
shut ether
Surge def needs a damage boost or something though
olive ember
it depends rly
I mean I'll take a buff on surge
tbh idrc if it doesn't get a damage boost
but I think they need to increase the chaining
fierce sinew
target boost is what it really needs
olive ember
every other staff can affect entire swathes of enemies at a time
surge affects up to 5
ornate hamlet
the biggest issue with surge is it's damage, the 2nd biggest issue with surge is that it isn't an aoe and can only chain up to a certain number of targets
so it does shit dps, and sucks at killing horde
olive ember
tbf it does hard CC enemies tho, so if it can chain up to 15 enemies, thats 15 enemies that literally can't do anything
so imo the chaining is more important than the damage
ornate hamlet
it should chain to unlimited amounts of enemies if they are in range of each other, and it should obviously not double-back and hit same target more than once when using it.
shut ether
That's fair. Unlimited might make it a necessity so that would be a bit strong
ripe spire
There's the fix, just make it able to solo whole maps
shut ether
Maybe give us some more interesting blessings?
ornate hamlet
There's the fix, just make it able to solo whole maps
it doesn't really kill anything is the issue
ultimately, if you're using surg and your group isn't with you, you end up with peril issues and cornered
shut ether
Definitely not a clutch staff
olive ember
Tbf if I’m corner I pull out my melee and just slice through the horde
lethal lagoon
Surge does not compliment vets lmao. It makes the movement of some enemies less predictable. I don't need ranged hordes stunned on my vet. I kill 50+ of them in one F, vets are dumb. I'd rather they BB bulwarks and crushers.
shut ether
I just refuse to use Purg because I don't want to blind my team
ornate hamlet
Surge does not compliment vets lmao. It makes the movement of some enemies less ...
this is simply false
vet players love when there's a surge psyker with them, they can just pop heads without even worrying about using cover while doing so
olive ember
Tf why would you have them kill crushers and bulwarks
lethal lagoon
Surge makes you feel like you are carrying, but it really is doing very little. That's the illusion of the staff. It becomes really obvious when a teammate or two dies how little you are doing.
shut ether
Tf why would you have them kill crushers and bulwarks
Depends on your comp and their weapons
lethal lagoon
I don't need to use cover on my vet in the first place. I have -75 % toughness damage that replenishes everytime I kill a ranged unit lmao.
Surge adds nothing to me
shut ether
Surge makes you feel like you are carrying, but it really is doing very little. ...
That's the whole point though. It's a support staff.
ornate hamlet
then don't fucking use it kid
olive ember
“Healers make you feel like you are carrying, but it really is doing very little. That’s the illusion of the healer. It becomes really obvious when a dps or tank dies how little you are doing”
ornate hamlet
quit bitchin lol
lethal lagoon
I'm not bitchin lmao. You are the ones who came in here defending surge as this amazing thing. The surge is for the lazy and the tired.
shut ether
If games were balanced by their communities we would be fooked 
lethal lagoon
I didn't ask for a buff or anything. It doesn't need one, it's fine as a lazy support.
ornate hamlet
If games were balanced by their communities we would be fooked <:KEKW_ogryn:1022...
devs don't do a much better job of it either, but yeah
lethal lagoon
Wasn't it said the devs didn't even have t5 beaten when the game came out?
shut ether
You know what we REALLY need guys? Different primary fires on each staff.
lethal lagoon
^
shut ether
How is voidstrike lazy?
olive ember
Just saying
ornate hamlet
most game devs don't even really play their games at all, and when they do they rarely show any of the gameplay because they're so terrible at actually playing games.
- they're always using controllers like some xbox children
lethal lagoon
Voidstrike takes a lot of effort to do not that great. It's definitely not lazy. It also blinds and deafens your teammates, which is really lore friendly.
olive ember
How is voidstrike lazy?
You can use it on everything, warp flurry + transfer peril means you barely have to quell
So on and so forth
shut ether
But you have to......aim?
lethal lagoon
I mean you do have to aim and the emotional damage of being a weak version of a vet is pretty draining.
olive ember
Point in the general direction of the head and call it a day
It’s not that hard to aim
shut ether
Idk i do just fine. Vet serves a different role than the Psyker. Go play vet if you don't like it
ornate hamlet
inb4 he starts complaining about trauma next
lethal lagoon
Aye, people are so sensitive. Psyker is great. I was talking about voidstrike
Trauma is goat.
lethal lagoon
I mean purg is probably better in terms of mission completion and clutching but trauma is so much fucking fun.
olive ember
10 more minutes until disappointment time
ornate hamlet
trauma has trash targetting and it still generates too much peril imo
it's advantage is it's damage output, without having to rely on DoT like purg, while still having decent AoE.
and it magically hits weakspots a lot of the time for no apparent reason
but it's range is meh, and in certain situations you can't get it to pop where you want it to
spice veldt
still meh damage
The AoE is its main advantage
lethal lagoon
Eh, anti-ranged is pretty valuable since most vets have no idea how their class works. I like trauma for that.
olive ember
I mean surge helps with what matters, which is when the cancerous triple mutant + double hound + burster + trapper all spawn
ornate hamlet
yeah trauma can pop a whole clump of ranged enemies if you get them before they spread out
lethal lagoon
Great CC too for bad moments
forest coral
Traumas real strength is being able to knock around dense mixed hordes and having insane cleave in its epicentre
wintry ivy
I've been playing frequently over the past week and did the Loner Psyker always refer to non psykers as blunts?
lethal lagoon
^
olive ember
im still of the opinion that by the time players reach damnation they should just not suck against hordes
forest coral
but apart from that, there are too many times when i wished i was using something else apart from trauma
lethal lagoon
Pretty sure the blunt dialogue has been in from the start.
hollow creek
I've been playing frequently over the past week and did the Loner Psyker always ...
Psyker version of "neurotypical"
lethal lagoon
Don't know if it's always been on loner though.
hollow creek
Misread the question oops
wintry ivy
I played a lot during the cbt and the first few weeks after launch and I don't recall hearing him refer to them as blunts
ornate hamlet
im still of the opinion that by the time players reach damnation they should jus...
consider this
many players are barely running this game at all on their PC without crashing
they even run on crap resolution and can barely see anything
some of them are actually handicapped IRL
some of them are super old and have the reflexes of a sloth.
others, are busy yelling at their kids to stop fighting mid-mission, or whatever else
very few people are actually playing on great PC with good framerate, undistracted by real life, and are skilled at PC games in general
yet they all still que up for damnation, because they want to do it
damnation player
ornate hamlet
the issue really is that too many people who buy darktide aren't even capable of playing it well
spice veldt
luckily, the bridge is long enough that the daemonhost despawns
lethal lagoon
You described the perfect person who surge was made for lol.
ornate hamlet
bro, i bet you don't even know how to play surge effectively
you probably out there trying to spam surge from outside of cover
without even realizing you can use it from cover
just like BB
lethal lagoon
People take surge talk sooo personally lol.
ornate hamlet
i don't even use surge, but i think your opinions about it are ridiculous
wide tiger
cheekiest DH spawn i've seen so far
if its a 4 medicae its worth 😛
ornate hamlet
it is
lethal lagoon
Yeah don't use it. More like offended someone is calling your playstyle easy.
ornate hamlet
Yeah don't use it. More like offended someone is calling your playstyle easy.
i use purg+MK II combat axe
and i am almost always at the front of my group, waiting on ppl to catch up so we can move on
wide tiger
im always behind because i loot the entire level
lethal lagoon
Got a pro gamer here, watch out.
wide tiger
and no one else does
ornate hamlet
while still trying to maintain coherency with the bunch of slackers i always end up with
wide tiger
god damnit
lethal lagoon
I love mat collectors
ornate hamlet
Got a pro gamer here, watch out.
just gonna have to write you off as a troll
lethal lagoon
I've actually seen people try to kick them, it's wild.
lethal folio
Doing some boss science, 8 warp unleashed triggers with a buffing axe is almost to kill a boss.
wide tiger
Doing some boss science, 8 warp unleashed triggers with a buffing axe is almost ...
Wat
lethal folio
It is more efficient to burst nearby trash than the boss, as long as you can keep it in range.
spice veldt
wrack & ruin?
lethal folio
Unleashed 4 stacks for overcapping warp charges.
spice veldt
oh kinetic overload
wide tiger
i was so confused lol
lethal folio
I am dumb and said the wrong thing.
wide tiger
I really havent enjoyed kinetic overload but good on you for finding a good use
esp when given the option of warp battery or flayer
ornate hamlet
It is more efficient to burst nearby trash than the boss, as long as you can kee...
this happens automatically when you're using purg anyway
leaden thunder
tyr you said a bm + thunderous shovel could bypass the cleave cap right(asking in here becuase reasons)
lethal folio
Ogryn shovel light 3.
ornate hamlet
i use axe till trash spawn, then switch to purg, when adds are dead switch back to axe
lethal folio
On a technicality
leaden thunder
aw I was hoping it would just do that
lethal folio
Honestly Thunderous and bleed is much more useful
since the bleed also triggers rending.
stone pulsar
whew. started a psyker today. i am addicted to the surge staff
lethal lagoon
Psykers a fun class.
lethal lagoon
just gonna have to write you off as a troll
You're the only one hurling out personal insults bro. I literally complimented everyone here half way through my argument. Troll my ass.
ornate hamlet
plz don't ping me
stuck sinew
ornate hamlet
i only talk to pro gamers sorry kid
clear hamlet
This dude brought 2 staves and 3 maccabian swords
ornate hamlet
i'm surprised the staves weren't lasguns
lethal lagoon
Anyone ever get a good curio from melks?
cold geode
never
lethal lagoon
I feel like the odds of that are almost 0
cyan notch
darn no money
lethal lagoon
So kind of. Melks is cruel.
spice veldt
guns and axes again
leaden thunder
I bought it
had like 19% hp max toughness regen and either sniper or gunner resist
and one other perk that I just rerolled
shut ether
I'm so fking sick of only guns in my shop and emperors gifts
lethal lagoon
Psyker is just an alt for vet to get gun blessings 😦
I wonder when they'll finally give up and just give us staff only melks
Probably 2 years from now
shut ether
I don't play vet 
cyan notch
some people want guns
cold geode
naa, they just make 5x vets
cyan notch
is inspiring barrage good? it sounds decent on paper
lethal lagoon
Shredder needs two damage blessings to be viable compared to other guns I'm pretty sure
So by default, probably not.
I think it's blaze away and power on stagger or something.
spice veldt
apparently inspiring barrage is coherency regen and not that it refills 50% of your max toughness?
cold geode
leaden thunder
on anything else it's total crap
forest coral
but i am not inspired
shut ether
why is the light so low in numbers
Because with finesse you can get like 2.3x weakspot damage
cyan notch
free toughness just for firing gun sounds pretty cool
shut ether
free toughness just for firing gun sounds pretty cool
Except dodging exists so it's kinda pointless imo
leaden thunder
apparently inspiring barrage is coherency regen and not that it refills 50% of y...
it functions like it
cyan notch
dodging doesnt give you free toughness
leaden thunder
but it does restore toughness out of coherency
just on most weapons that roll it the % is so low that it's total crap
and I do think it will be interupted if you take damage
cyan notch
spice veldt
i've seen commissartyr mentioning that inspiring barrage makes it as if you had an ally in coherency or something along those lines
leaden thunder
and idk if it stacks with coherency either
yeah it is effected by other things that modify coherence regen
ogryn's lynchpin and curios namely
spice veldt
oo like toughness regen?
feral verge
omg melk is selling a god staff
spice veldt
big
lethal lagoon
Buy it. Huge.
spice veldt
run n' gun over all the enemys
cold geode
it would be huge if they let it work on void secondary
lethal lagoon
That would be pretty interesting to look at too.
idle bay
Holy Emprah on Terra!
cold geode
nice
idle bay
Melk brought a treat today 🙂
feral verge
not bad
i wish i could remember where i got my god staves from
not from melk
i know that lol
ive only ever bought a curio from him
this is the only true godroll staff i have
shame i dont use it much
idle bay
And he did not stopped at staff
Perks are karked... but it will do 🙂
mental junco
guys, should i take this one?
a bit low charge rate but compensated by blessing
the thing is the warp Nexus worth it?
feral verge
i personally owuldnt spend melk money on a surge
cyan notch
its pretty darn good
feral verge
because all surges kinda perform the same
mental junco
i don't have a good surge so far
feral verge
me neither
lethal lagoon
err doesn't charge rate matter more if you spamming min charges?
feral verge
well
i dont think there is a such thing as a good surge
a surge staff is a surge staff
not saying its bad
mental junco
ok...
feral verge
but
mental junco
cause i rarely use it
feral verge
it doesnt need perks or blessings to do what it does well
mental junco
i mainly use the voidstrike
cyan notch
its good you should grab it what if they buff it in the future
idle bay
I though that Ogryn also got a present today, but perks is bad. Perfect GG needs Flak + Maniac for all the Breakpoints
feral verge
how much melk money do you have
feral verge
if you wanted to be economical
get a 360+ staff from brunt's
it will only be 10% worse than what you have from melk
mental junco
i m totally broke because of brunt
steel flame
i feel very vindicated
cyan notch
just buy it its not like youre savving up for some magical 5k purchase from melk
currency is meant to be used
steel flame
i know the scoreboard isnt always accurate but still. i out damaged 3 vets with a laspistol psyker XP
and it was a good match too
great team
feral verge
just buy it its not like youre savving up for some magical 5k purchase from melk
im saving just in case theres an event where there are 2 solid choices in melks
clear hamlet
im saving just in case theres an event where there are 2 solid choices in melks
Optimistic
mental junco
u must be extremely lucky to get 2 solid choice
feral verge
ik
mental junco
i rarely get 1 choice
lethal lagoon
I mean if you are blessing hunting, getting 3-4 solid choices isn't even that rare.
clear hamlet
You are not prepared
lethal lagoon
Just a question of if it's worth it for just 1 blessing.
steel flame
i swear to god if i get craft another freakin laspistol and it rolls t3 Ghost IM GONNA LOSE MY FREAKIN MIND
wide tiger
Are you seeing dead people?
feral verge
i gave up on crafting
feral verge
rending shocklwave warp flurry
lethal lagoon
Go for the memes. Nexus + Blazing spirit.
feral verge
unarmored/infested and flak perks
feral verge
rending shockwave
lethal lagoon
I'm not sure how needed it is after the warp charge buff, but unarmored 25% was important for a lot of breakpoints.
spice veldt
for an anti shooter build, I prefer focused channeling over rending shockwave
jagged lance
for an anti shooter build, I prefer focused channeling over rending shockwave
theres more than enough vets playing to attack shooters
lethal lagoon
I wish
lethal lagoon
3 vets and almost no ranged clear.
lethal lagoon
Made me try a vet to see if I was just being harsh. I was not. they are OP as shit.
spice veldt
i like having an anti-shooter option as a part of my build
jagged lance
3 vets and almost no ranged clear.
they focus on horde clearing right?
lethal lagoon
I don't know what they are doing lmao. Having fun with each other while I clear everything?
Like you can kill 50+ ranged hordes in one F on vet. It's crazy, I don't get why so few of them run that build.
@jagged lance Power sword addiction is a serious problem.
gilded viper
333 attack block 
leaden thunder
spice veldt
is teddy the ogryn
wide tiger
shield ogryn?
gilded viper
yes
leaden thunder
mf was blocking
gilded viper
truely since i perma die 3 times
wide tiger
so much damage mitigated!
gilded viper
on gun psyker KEKW
lethal lagoon
I always cry a manly Ogryn tear everytime I see one of my brothers using shield 😢
jagged lance
<@993375350941810738> Power sword addiction is a serious problem.
totally
feral verge
almost every vet player
completely oblivious
just letting this guy unload into him from behind
many vets also ignore pings
feral verge
i will drop a medpack, or point out a medstation
lethal lagoon
I really wonder why vets attract the worst players. Also yeah, they all look like NPCs, I hate their design choice lmao.
feral verge
i will call it out, i will ping it, and even drop the eye symbol
and they will ignore
so then i gotta stop what im doing and type
medkit here
or ammo here
medicae here
forest coral
Some ogryn insisted on carrying a energy cell through the whole map on smelter foundry yesterday
I dunno why but I got annoyed eventually and threw that thing into the lava
Am I the asshole here 
safe crystal
Yes
feral verge
i think its funny
spice veldt
you murdered his kid
feral verge
i have been tempted to do that on uh
idk what map
the one where you hold out infront of the ascender
forest coral
hue
spice veldt
magistrati assassination
feral verge
yeah i think so
ive always been tempted to pick up that powercell
and chuck it off the cliff jsut beyond the medicae
lethal lagoon
@forest coral I've done that before. The entire team supported me in carrying my gift for the emperor. It was even on that map with the super long escape.
I'd say a soft YTA
restive slate
Pick up sad Medicae Servitor when?
lethal lagoon
Protect him so he can properly die in the lava?
spice veldt
good thing the lava isn't too far away in smelter complex
elder rain
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forest coral
Yes
forest coral
Protect him so he can properly die in the lava?
Cleansing fire to warm his soul
For his sins
spice veldt
79% finesse rashad
lethal lagoon
You'd need some nasty rng with the upgrades though.
forest coral
I still don’t get the weird
lethal lagoon
But I mean it's gold, might as well buy both.
forest coral
Head crit zone of rashad
Literally gotta look to the sky
Other than that it’s pretty solid
restive slate
Infernus is good, considering the high crit chance of Laspistol
feral verge
surprisingly, this is the only las pistol i have
steel flame
you really want reassuring accuracy
you get so many crits it really helps with toughness regen
long wharf
okay siblings, time to place bets on Community Update Bingo
steel flame
"we have been working really hard to bring you new content"
ie all the stuff that should have already been in the game
long wharf
that's too many things for a proper bingo call
steel flame
fair enough
long wharf
"working really hard to bring new content" is 1
"revealing something that was promised for release" is another
steel flame
new cosmetics are on the way
restive slate
Where you see this?
long wharf
new cosmetics are on the way
this would be very bold of them at this point, I'll give you 10:1 odds on that
feral verge
"the psyker buffs last week were overtuned and we're retracting those. in general, we feel psyker is too powerful, and are working on reigning the psyker in even further. we are considering 75% more peril gain, 90% reduced brainburst dmg, among other things"
long wharf
I'll give you 2:1 on a mention of psyker strength
lethal lagoon
"We're also banning the psyker mods which remove peril effects. Because the headaches are a part of the lore."
olive ember
okay siblings, time to place bets on Community Update Bingo
warp flurry fixes for the upteenth time
that don't work
long wharf
warp flurry fixes for the upteenth time
that sounds likely, 1:3 odds
lethal lagoon
The actual bet is when the warp flurry fixes actually fix it completely.
long wharf
the real issue is that they can't fix it for all staves at once
lethal lagoon
There's also the post about it messing up the crit rate on nexus.
I feel like they need to bite the bullet and just make a different version of warp flurry for each staff.
elder rain
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long wharf
I feel like they need to bite the bullet and just make a different version of wa...
oh my sweet summer child
the entire gameplay codebase is in Lua
it's already a separate blessing for each staff
twilit flicker
okay siblings, time to place bets on Community Update Bingo
Something about the bosses in the creature mod and something about flash missions.
No doubt they will balance something and fix a few bugs.
forest coral
"we've felt that some veteran traits were overperforming, as such we've opted to increase peril gained through force weapons by 40%"
twilit flicker
"We feel like psykers should be on a equal playing field in regards to staff gameplay and friendly fire. Therefore, we made staves no longer work through allied players and bots."
lethal lagoon
"We understand the flamer is bit overtuned. So, for the third patch in a row, we've decided to buff its blessings. Also here's a psyker "bug fix". It's not a nerf."
long wharf
"We feel like psykers should be on a equal playing field in regards to staff gam...
god that hurts to read... I'll give 20:1 odds
kind jay
"All Staves now require ammo"
long wharf
"We understand the flamer is bit overtuned. So, for the third patch in a row, we...
Psyker bugfix that isn't a nerf... too likely, 1:5 odds
kind jay
wide tiger
lol
idle bay
Any kind of Psyker Nerf in next update (be that actual nerf or another fix of unintended mechanics) 1:1 odds
long wharf
I mean, it's basically guaranteed to happen
idle bay
This is the Way
wide tiger
This is the way
spice veldt
maybe they'll just insult psykers and grant emotional damage to all psykers
idle bay
i will start thinking that Fatshark team got abducted by Xenos and replaced with doppelgangers if any kind of psyker nerf is not happening in update 🙂
lethal lagoon
The BB at 100% peril actually felt like BB was finally balanced.
And it was hard to pull off, you could get fucked if someone killed your BB target.
long wharf
I mean, it's already basically proven that the FartShart team collectively worships Slaanesh and enjoys the anguish of psyker mains
lethal lagoon
Perfect balance.
long wharf
in fact, you could even argue that that's the real purpose of Darktide as a whole
lethal lagoon
The two people at Fatshark who actually play the game runs Zealot Flamer and Veteran.
On Malice of course.
spice veldt
and they just recently started playing flamer zealot
kind jay
anyone actually tried Bloodthirsty? is it like, just one hit? does it work on ranged?
kind jay
5 whole ass seconds?
spice veldt
yes
kind jay
wait even for ranged?
kind jay
staff bonk is ultimate weapon
spice veldt
use bloodthirsty to give bonk crits to kill crushers
maiden wolf
There's a voidstrike with surge, warpnexus, and T3 crit chance in my shop
Gonna grind furiously tomorrow to get it.
spice veldt
and that looks like a generally good force sword
slap slaughterer on it and you can call it a day
kind jay
hm i could try it. my current one is deflect/slaughter and losing my ability to Neo might be sad
spice veldt
and in exchange, you gain mad DPS
forest coral
deflector just isnt that good
spice veldt
bloodthirsty + slaughterer allows you to immediately one-shot dreg bruisers from a single special kill
*warp unleashed or warp charges may or may not be needed
forest coral
like it might save you in some rare occasions but then its so specific that you would have probably gotten wrecked even with it
kind jay
my experience with deflector has been nothing but positive, with the exception of shotgunners that seem to not give a shit
twilit flicker
Interesting, thinking about it ... deflector enables even more mobility. In addition to sliding, infinite dodge.
lethal lagoon
And they removed the best part of deflector, reviving your teammates in heavy ass ranged fire so they can insta die 
spice veldt
deflector is nice for covering the gaps in between slides/dodges
muted silo
Deflector with the correct build is nuts, tanking reapers with ease, stam regen and block efficiency are key
spice veldt
but I think another offensive blessing is much more worth it
reapers get interrupted by a single LMB from staffs
lethal lagoon
Deflector just doesn't seem worth it after the reviving nerf, I dunno. Like you could be doing things that are more worth it instead of blocking.
spice veldt
i found deflector to be very nice when going up elevators and having to immediately fight enemies
muted silo
It’s particularly useful for gap closing with purg or surge
gloomy obsidian
What's the Best Stats for Blaze Force Sword?
spice veldt
warp resistance is my dumpstat for the force sword
I prefer having mobility as the force sword is my main weapon
gloomy obsidian
fair
kind jay
yeah i enjoy deflectors utility over more damage. force sword with slaughterer is more than enough for me on t5
lethal lagoon
I need my meme flames that proc 2-3 times a game.
cyan notch
yea i dont use force sword as a pure damage stick
i rather just use one of the axes for that
spice veldt
i prefer having the force sword for just sniping melee elites from teammates
gloomy obsidian
Agreed
spice veldt
and bloodthirsty makes that significantly easier
lethal lagoon
I have no idea what that means.
fiery atlas
the one with mind over matter
under the first one, reach level 5
several rewards with the threshold
or is it talking about the different mind over matter penances
cyan notch
that one you just level up
spice veldt
penances can give you points/rewards at different values
cyan notch
every 5 levels is a threshold and you get a new cosmetic then
fiery atlas
I certainly am trying for it
been deleting daemonhosts and beasts of nurgle w/ nothing but BB
lethal lagoon
Actually shouln't be that bad after the BB buffs and the 25% damage glitch.
Getting it when the game came out was pure ass.
lethal lagoon
Oh sweet.
ember hornet
farming the hab dreyko type map for the elite bb penance and the blow up penance, pretty fast
north cradle
Man
So like this Curio was already Toughness Regen and Sniper Resist, so I decided to roll for Corruption Resist instead of Ordo Dockets
north cradle
It was a 76
In fact I'm pretty sure that's my highest rated Max Health blessing
Also should I roll 2 Sniper and 1 Gunner, or 3 Sniper?
ember hornet
but like, what's the point of corruption resist
north cradle
Poxburster won't delete my wounds
ember hornet
if that's a breakpoint then by all means
oh no, a vet thinks this is good https://preview.redd.it/gov86pepgmna1.png?width=554&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d513d6c8893be11ed031c079af4df518ca5ec45
ember hornet
yes
restive slate
Amazing I want it
ember hornet
just don't be like me and mix up crit chance for ranged crit chance
worldly iron
Trying to Get Knife for Zealot builds
It has tier 4 haymaker and Tier 3 Flesh Tearer
Gets the right knife but its from Psyker
End my Suffering Emprah
ember hornet
phew, one more person saved from being knife zealot
restive slate
I wanna make a crit taxe build
worldly iron
EWEW?
ember hornet
enemies within enemies without
worldly iron
ah ok
ember hornet
toughness regen near enemies
worldly iron
thanks
cyan notch
WEWEWEWEWEW
restive slate
EWEW is what loyalists say when encountering a Nurglite
ember hornet
some people will try to convince you zealot is health curios, the whole class is based around keeping toughness up and diving into gun lines etc
so something like 2 toughness 1 HP is a decent balance
unless you hard commit to holy rev build, or low health holy rev, would not recommend low health in current dt
feral verge
Constantpenis
cold geode
is that the name of your vet?
hot yew
>Trying to Get Knife for Zealot builds
>It has tier 4 haymaker and Tier 3 Flesh ...
Why do you want haymaker?
viral solstice
oh no, a vet thinks this is good https://preview.redd.it/gov86pepgmna1.png?width...
it is good do u understand what level of stonks that is
weapon type likely to get buffed, two tier 4 blessings clearly on the buff list
welcome to investment cowboy mindset
📈
worldly iron
@hot yew I got it from a loot
I finished Damnation run
gave me a Knife blessed by English Robbers
hot yew
<@195515162801864704> I got it from a loot
Ahk. Was just confused because both blessings are bad
ember hornet
best thing to do when empy gives you a knife is to sell it for ordos, that way you can buy more from brunt to roll something actually good
ember hornet
I just have an unreasonable hatred for the knife
viral solstice
imagine if u could swap weapon specials
i would give everything parry and then use it once every 3 games
and clip it
ember hornet
I just don't want my heretics to be poked to death by 1000 cuts
viral solstice
imagine the damage per screenshot
ember hornet
who knows if they are actually dead or not
guarantee that bonbon gonna come back to haunt you if you poke it with a knife
must be smitten
viral solstice
u see
this is a powerful meme to me
becasuse technically both smitten and smote are past tenses of smite
but smitten is entirely lovestruck
and smote is entirely divine bashing
cyan notch
restive slate
Hug around the neck
ember hornet
I will make them smitten and then smote after that for maximum effect
viral solstice
the strat is
once people know about smitten and smote
and theyre like
fk me it oculd be anything
hit them with smunt
or smonted
nobody is confident enough to gainsay u
restive slate
I read as smut
ember hornet
I got smote the other day
viral solstice
ember hornet
I found a gif of zealot chat
dammit crab
you have me confused
about which chat I'm in
ember hornet
the real test is if there are any letterkenny enjoyers in psyker chat
restive slate
https://tenor.com/view/letterkenny-skids-dance-crew-gif-24443360
That's what Psykers hear at high peril
ember hornet
lol
I keep getting grabbed or some shit at high peril
BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING
cyan notch
time to use muteperilsounds
ember hornet
I heard tale of you playing psyker crab
viral solstice
i got technology like u never seen
viral solstice
cyan notch
ember hornet
bang
viral solstice
spice veldt
this has been grabbed
ember hornet
was doing heresy for penances earlier with a buddy and we were both playing psyker, we had 3 psykers and people kept leaving lol
like come on heresy is easy
viral solstice
i will legit blow myself up
ember hornet
especially low intensity...
ember hornet
lol
viral solstice
its like walking into a room and making eye contact with everybody as u remove ur trousers
they are too intimidated
spice veldt
hmm
viral solstice
spice veldt
i think it's a bit different
cyan notch
worst case scenario youre just a bullet sponge
viral solstice
exactly
ur literally giving ur life to make things easier for ur team
thank u psyker
ember hornet
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/YF6yLRnye89v_/d1337DosSkW1...
I love seeing the vet just shoot afterwards, it's perfect
forest coral
thank you psyker very cool
viral solstice
i blew myself up 3x with a plasma gun but it wasnt as fun
partly because plasma is just like, obviously shit and boring
and not as cool
because u cant do the swap explosions
cyan notch
plasma is pretty cool
ember hornet
don't worry plasma has less pen than revolver
viral solstice
like only true suicide experts
ember hornet
lul
viral solstice
appreciate how good some of those suicides are
whereas all plasma suicides look the same
its a real disappoint
feral verge
Psyker suicide build when
viral solstice
plasma gun is mediocre but usable
cyan notch
railgun that shoots through walls
viral solstice
its just not very good or interesting
cyan notch
pretty funny
viral solstice
no
cyan notch
1 shots crushers
viral solstice
its very mushy feeling
forest coral
sadge
viral solstice
look its op 3750 damage in one shot
(lucius 3 can one shot crusher too but we keep that quiet because nobody is ready for the "lucius is better plasma" lifestyle)
feral verge
Is lucius good in general?
viral solstice
lucius 2 is straight up good for everybody once ur used to it
lucius 3 is basically a better plasma gun
once u know how to use it
(u need onslaught)
lucius 1 is fine too but its not quite as strongly archetyped as 2 and 3
2 is like a lever action rifle
feral verge
If I play vet, I have no interest in the regular las guns
viral solstice
3 is like an elephant gun
feral verge
I am interested in a dmr type gun
viral solstice
3's downsides are ammo inefficiency and a much worse left click but u get way better pen and damage on the charge
especially to carapace
feral verge
To me it sounds like lucious and HH are what I'd want
viral solstice
2 is basically a marginally shittr XII with no holo on left click and then a brap brap brap charge shot that can be hip fired
a random shitpost roll with onslaught but u get the idea
i like the feeling
very cowboy
cyan notch
alright what the hell is medaltv and why do people use this
viral solstice
because it uploads shits and embeds on discord without u having to do any effort
thats about the only reason
its basically shadowplay but u dont need to edit the clips manually or upload them to youtube or wahtever manually
the dumb meme about lucius 3 i have seen is u cant be lazy and bodyshot shooters with it during vf but u can
forest coral
I think the only thing is lucius vets tend to get a little tooo tunnel visioned
viral solstice
anyway very fun weapon type but u need onslaught and u need a triple high roll damage charge time stopping power for lucius 3
cyan notch
I think the only thing is lucius vets tend to get a little tooo tunnel visioned
every vet ever
i ran into a camo autopistol the other day
wide tiger
always just found kantrael XII an upgrade to the lucius
lol
camo autopistol for the win!
wide tiger
true enough
cyan notch
dude stands at the side of the doorway spamming autopistol doesnt realise theres a bulwark behind him
forest coral
trying to clutch with xii too is real guardsman last stand moment
viral solstice
or one shotting reapers
wide tiger
I love this guy that posted on the camo expert is not fun thread
saying psykers arent allowed to use guns
spice veldt
punishable for 5 years in prison
wide tiger
He's coming for me
viral solstice
ur NOT allowed into my treehouse
forest coral
ur going to jail tiger boi
viral solstice
forest coral
cyan notch
idk why videos always stutter on discord when fullscreen
viral solstice
also i think a lot of people who dont know how dodge works
dont realise how safe u can be
like u can ignore melee specials while killing stuff
just... press the button...
wide tiger
Yeah but theres always the roulette of lag time in the wild
sometimes I dodge stuff and still get hit when i know im mid dodge
viral solstice
depends on the attack and the distance
wide tiger
or slide and take fire
viral solstice
is the unfortunate wrinkle
so heres an example of a fucking stupid wrinkle
u know how melee potheads
can have a mace
or a sword
the sword? u can spot dodge point blank
phases thru u
if they have a mace?
nope, they get a longer dodge catch range
wide tiger
I have been maced hard before
viral solstice
why the fuck
wide tiger
real hard
viral solstice
is that a thing
wide tiger
keep it interesting for people who really really test the mechanics and stress them to the maximum
😄
viral solstice
tbh
ive got more enjoyment from parry because as scuffed as it is
than any other mechanic
look at this advanced technology
cyan notch
mechanics be like SPAM RUNNING ATTACK FOREVER
viral solstice
well u see
i finally figured out
how to actually parry the rager combo
deterministically
spoiler: its 100% not worth the effort
so u hear those double dinks
and the double stamina drain
that parry breaks
now theres a lockout going parry-> parry
or parry -> block
but 0 lockout going block-> parry
if u try and parry those specific swings
u get hit right thru it
BUT
if u hold block then press parry in the gap between the two hits
ta-da we did it
except ragers have like 3 diff chain combos
all of them have a parryable attack 1
might be 4
one is parry double parry parry
one is parry double double double
one is like parry -> 4-5 doubles then just ?
and he also will follow the end of a chain by instantly going into one of his standalone moves
which are all spot-dodgeable and all parriable
as far as i can tell
if theres 2
god help u
now i know why the parry has this lockout for spamming it
its to stop u going invulnerable when surrounded by melee chaff
but to then have the main fast-attacking melee enemy in the game parry-break
on top
is just like
also easy way to tell if somebody actually uses the parry: anybody who says parry makes u 100% safe from ragers doesnt parry ragers regularly
cyan notch
steel flame
also easy way to tell if somebody actually uses the parry: anybody who says parr...
Your right. I don't parry ragers. I just shootem in de head
steel flame
On to my obligatory laspistol post
I don't really trust the scoreboard mod much but I do like numbers. had a match today with laspistol and 3 vets and somehow I out damaged all 3 by about 30k damage
I'd like to believe in my own hype but I'm not sure that number reflects reality
steel flame
wide tiger
also easy way to tell if somebody actually uses the parry: anybody who says parr...
I still think parry shoulda just instagib, its risk
and its single target
viral solstice
the big change i want is that 1) if u time it right u can parry unblockables like crusher overheads or whatever and 2) the higher the damage of the move u parry the higher the power on the riposte
also add blessings that key off it
+100% power for 2s after parry
would be a fucking sick blessing eg
wide tiger
I mean claws with 100% power still suck though lol
steel flame
I still think parry shoulda just instagib, its risk
Or it should at the very least completely stagger anything it doesn't kill. Except crushers
viral solstice
spice veldt
smh no blessings related to the parry
spice veldt
:oooo
viral solstice
also u know how the only damage blessings u get rn are shred and rampage
wide tiger
Why not? lots of special activation blessings exist
spice veldt
wow i sure hope my shred stacks stay nice and put :)
viral solstice
but yeah the blessings for devil claw are just laughable and given that the stats and falloff on the devil claw 4 cleave heavy
are literally the same as HS IX cleave
but HS IX has 75% power, 10% more damage on rampage AND u still dont use that fucking heavy
because ur lights are better
u no
small diffs
spice veldt
and they took heavy swords away from psyker
once again, the noodly arms theory receives evidence in favor
cyan notch
wonder what they thought when they gave cranked blessings to heavy sword
viral solstice
tbh
numbers on blessings
picked from a hat
d/w about it
we can ask about intentionality in 6 months
forest coral
wonder what they thought when they gave cranked blessings to heavy sword
*yee thats right you heavy sword, take those blessings. Take it you naughty little thing *
steel flame
once again, the noodly arms theory receives evidence in favor
I'm 100% certain heavy sword would be lighter than chainsword 
viral solstice
? its LITERALLY called heavy sword hello???
whats heavier, a chain or a heavy
use brane pls...
steel flame
You make a convincing argument
forest coral
viral solstice
Why does my chainsaw cleave less than a sword crab
i think when they add trees as enemies
then chainsaw fans will finally have their moment
spice veldt
I'm 100% certain heavy sword would be lighter than chainsword <:clown_hadron:106...
ur wrong becuz ur wrong
spice veldt
you're wrong because it's right
viral solstice
spice veldt
what is this crab propaganda
velvet crescent
i suck at psyker, when do i start popping brain burst
viral solstice
i suck at psyker, when do i start popping brain burst
depends a lil bit on what weapon u have, ur position, team state and whether or not u have the fast brain burst super
but crudely
spice veldt
depends
BB is kind of slow so you should probably use your other options first if you can
velvet crescent
im new as all hell w/ psyker at level 2, so rn it's gun and devil claw sword
spice veldt
oh
velvet crescent
eying grabbing a force sword
spice veldt
oh no
viral solstice
brain burst to open bulwarks in guard harassing ppl with no way to open them, brain burst to stagger crushers harassing weaklings, brain burst pre-charge to get rid of trappers if u hear them coming and ur team doesnt have brain capacity to deal with it, sequence of brain bursts to delete mass gunners if u have kinetic overload
viral solstice
etc
steel flame
I like to use Kinetic Barrage as an emergency BB button, but also as a first strike to clear ogryns and elites
spice veldt
i hate how the earliest weapons psykers unlock also tend to have strong stat scaling
viral solstice
but broadly brain burst is time-expensive cc and damage as a last resort, a range extender if ur range-impaired, and a deterministic way to delete specific high-danger specials with very little risk (snipers, bombs, etc)
especially specials that use los
velvet crescent
brain burst to open bulwarks in guard harassing ppl with no way to open them, br...
interesting. some of my fav bbs have been to nuke a hound because they freeze
spice veldt
yeah it's quite good for specials that run around
forest coral
Brainburst is amazing for just taking out specials and elites in general
viral solstice
brain-bursting a hound is an ok option for that reason but u need to pre-charge it if u want to get guaranteed value
on heresy+ it wont one shot the dog
forest coral
but u are also one of the best solutions to carapace and bulwarks existing
fiery atlas
damn surge staff is kinda thicc
spice veldt
damn surge staff is kinda thicc
poptart staff
viral solstice
and if they are coming close u will not fully channel a bb before it hits u unless u spood charge it or los it. basically dont get used to it being the free dog counter because there are enough edge cases where u need to thonk a lil bit about it
steel flame
damn surge staff is kinda thicc
Not as thicc as hadron
velvet crescent
also if im reading this right, brain burst kills give me warp charges which in turn boosts my damage?
viral solstice
yes
fiery atlas
i don't like it as much as purg for the funnies
viral solstice
and thats the other thing to note about bb
velvet crescent
got it
spice veldt
it boosts all damage
fiery atlas
but it do be doin some damage
viral solstice
if ur bbing a group of 3-crushers