#psyker-class

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limpid lily
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what do you guys think is more worth? maniac or sprint?

viral solstice
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my term if disapprobation would be

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keep maniac 100%

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for mutants

spice veldt
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absolutely +maniac

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and dreg ragers

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+maniac is one of the best perks for the FS

limpid lily
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I tested in psyka im not sure if it'll take less charged hit or not

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with 20%

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at least, against rager

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not sure about mutie

spice veldt
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with warp unleashed, warp charges, and +maniac, you should be able to two-shot mutants with light-special bodyshots

viral solstice
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i mean

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u should be able to one shot them

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with heavy bodyshots

dire smelt
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was trauma buffed in recent times?

feral verge
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Trauma fucks

limpid lily
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I'll keep it then

dire smelt
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or is it still an exercise in masochism

limpid lily
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Trauma is so good

viral solstice
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100% keep maniacs

spice veldt
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peril gen was basically cut in half

limpid lily
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im not sure y people hated on trauma at first xD

dire smelt
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because

viral solstice
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it was like

spice veldt
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because you could only cast two times from 0%

clear hamlet
viral solstice
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half the size

dire smelt
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like conflagration staff for sienna

viral solstice
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twice as expensive

dire smelt
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it was USELESS

limpid lily
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huh, ig I didnt play trauma as much

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breh

cyan notch
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conflag still sucks

limpid lily
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but yeah, trauma is awesome now at least

spice veldt
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i'm a quietude user so I liked the pre-buff trauma staff

dire smelt
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is it better than voidstrike though?

spice veldt
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imo, yes

viral solstice
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with no maniacs

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this is my sword

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no maniacs

feral verge
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I want fatshark to make a boltstaff for darktide

limpid lily
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beam staff

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hmhm

viral solstice
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i would say trauma is better at its niche - dense mixed packs close-mid range - than voidstrike

dire smelt
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voidstrike is kinda like bolt staff

viral solstice
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it is 100% definitely not a better overall damage staff

limpid lily
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with the shotgun thing on beam staff

viral solstice
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but then u get into how voidstrike works

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broadly

spice veldt
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trauma has a better panic option

dire smelt
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that niche is something that half the weapons can fill though

spice veldt
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and you can moses yourself through a horde

viral solstice
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i mean

limpid lily
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trauma quick secondary has great knockdown

viral solstice
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it is and it isnt

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lets just say that voidstrike does a lot of stuff

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moderately well

spice veldt
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for a melee playstyle, trauma is better

dire smelt
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melee psyker KEKIUM

viral solstice
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voidstrike one shots dogs, hard ccs bursters, will cancel crushers, maulers, open bulwarks etc

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at any range

limpid lily
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what's everyone general outlook on surge staff nowadays?

viral solstice
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ok heres where im really gonna go hard

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surge is awful

dire smelt
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i agree

viral solstice
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surge is, unironically, a terrible weapon and the higher the difficulty the worse it is

spice veldt
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the limited target count and terrible cleave damage of the surge staff makes me dislike it

viral solstice
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it has worse cc than a single light attack from a crusher

dire smelt
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surge requires your team to know what to do damage on

feral verge
viral solstice
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it is indeed boring

limpid lily
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it was considered the best staff before all this but ig people didnt really do Damnation too much be4

dire smelt
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surge is literally borderline unplayable in pug games

limpid lily
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Surge is awful against hordes and dregs yes -__-

feral verge
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The other staffs CC and (get this) actually kill shit

spice veldt
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I like it when I want to turn off my brain completely

viral solstice
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almost everything surge can cc other than mutants can also be cced by voidstrike

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btw

limpid lily
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*AWFUL

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*AWFUL not awesome

viral solstice
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also

dire smelt
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so again

limpid lily
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did they change sth with surge's CC stun tho? I wonder

viral solstice
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no warp flurry, start voidstrike charge as it jumps, 100% cancels burster leap ignoring stagger immunity

dire smelt
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why would you ever want a trauma

viral solstice
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trauma is 100% better vs mixed hordes

spice veldt
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mixed hordes and shooters

viral solstice
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ehh

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i mean

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depends how u use voidstrike really

spice veldt
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I much prefer it against the voidstrike for shooters

viral solstice
spice veldt
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because of the stagger

viral solstice
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u can just shoot them tho

dire smelt
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just click heads

spice veldt
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the outer radius will interrupt shooters if sufficiently charged

dire smelt
spice veldt
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which means that I can run into open space like an idiot

viral solstice
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i position like an idiot anyway

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i dont need a reason to

dire smelt
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point is

viral solstice
spice veldt
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it's why you see me promoting focused channeling instead of rending shockwave

feral verge
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Trauma staff can be used cleverly too

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You can kill and stagger enemies out of sight with it

dire smelt
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do you really need a locked midrange option as psyker?

feral verge
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Behind cover, up stairs

viral solstice
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i mean i think trauma is decent

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its just that trauma is less general purpose

dire smelt
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not to mention it does overlap with purgatus

viral solstice
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and, in generla, will do less damage than a well used voidstrike over the course of a game

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i have not ever seen a trauma user hit higher than 60% of my damage

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ever

spice veldt
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trauma is certainly more close-ranged

viral solstice
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and that was in hab dreyko

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which is close to optimal

spice veldt
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most of my damage comes from my force sword

viral solstice
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most of my damage comes from being very cool

dire smelt
viral solstice
spice veldt
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even in hab dreyko, I just use my trauma to stun enemies

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to get scans off

feral verge
viral solstice
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do u actually get damage for ur suicides

feral verge
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I run a max suicide build

viral solstice
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on urself

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u really should

spice veldt
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I basically never kill enemies in hab dreyko unless they're ranged

limpid lily
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do u guys like warp resistance on FS?

viral solstice
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its not great

feral verge
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It's the dumpstat

spice veldt
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warp resistance is my dump stat; but I also have a melee playstyle

dire smelt
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just run triple curios with +1 wounds

viral solstice
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because force sword is safe to activate at 99%

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they should let u run away from peril suicide

spice veldt
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if you're using it as a one-off weapon, then you might be willing to give up mobility

viral solstice
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if u have 9 stam on curios

dire smelt
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that makes it so you can explode 3 more times inbetween medistations

viral solstice
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u just sprint away

limpid lily
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yeah I wish I got lower warp resistance on this

viral solstice
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oh mobility is sprint speed

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i will say that dodge distance is less important than ppl think

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for various reasons

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but it probs has some effect on movement tech i havent checked

dire smelt
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what if im just a speed freak?

viral solstice
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100% respect to u

dire smelt
viral solstice
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i had full sprint efficiency and stam regen on all my zealots curios

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were they useful no

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but i did it

dire smelt
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no memes i had to leave more games than i would admit because i would get stuck in the level geometry after a slide

viral solstice
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that used to happen to me NON STOP

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then something changed

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like a few weeks ago

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and im cured

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idk what it was

limpid lily
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is it really worth running Warp Unleashed with 80% warp resistance FS I wonder...I gain like 10% peril every activation it's impossible to build warp unleashed stacks xD

dire smelt
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nothing changed

spice veldt
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i just politely ask my teammates to bait enemies to me or blow myself up

viral solstice
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upgrading this curio

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really hurt

dire smelt
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i left 3 games yesterday because of that

ionic frost
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@dire smelt just alt-F4 and reconnect =)

spice veldt
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i stack 3x blockeff/sprinteff/stam regen on all of my curios

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so that I can run around like an idiot and be safe

ionic frost
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but yes, they need to fix where slide can get you stuck

dire smelt
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do you really care about pox hound though?

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its like taking the mutant resist

viral solstice
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i mean

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both those resists are awful

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i just got a 17% with a decent secondary, double upgraded it

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and hadron fuked me

feral verge
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For the first time yesterday I saw a psyker with more HP than me

spice veldt
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abandon all hope

feral verge
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I have 260. He had 261. Max is 267

cyan notch
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cool

dire smelt
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63% more HP is NOTHING to scoff at

viral solstice
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oh yeah people have the numeric ui now right

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i need to swap to full stam curios asap

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so ppl can see 150/100

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thats the gamer move

cyan notch
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i think i have like 250 something

viral solstice
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the health is an accident ignore it

feral verge
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The stamina build

spice veldt
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if I didn't get dinked by snipers so much, I would run toughness instead of hp

cyan notch
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one shotgun blast ur down to 50hp

viral solstice
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i mean i havent died or taken significant damage from shotgunners in

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idk 2 months?

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they are legit the enemy i least fear

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the enemy i fear

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is fucking MUTANTS

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who do NOT SEEM TO GIVE A FUK

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RN

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about WALLS

feral verge
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I hate muties too

viral solstice
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dude i had one earlier where

spice veldt
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I'm afraid of shotgunners when they're far away, but I feel pretty safe when they're close

viral solstice
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i dodged it

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100% cleanly

cyan notch
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i havent died to shotgunners ever either

feral verge
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They've ruined a lot of runs and clutch moments for me

viral solstice
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and then the wall

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was only waist high

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so the mutants wall detection didn't activate

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and it did a 180

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while still running

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and grabbed me in my dodge recovery

feral verge
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Yup

viral solstice
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i legit took 4 follicles of damage

spice veldt
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why did they even make mutants keep on tracking you after dodging around corners

olive ember
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meh muties atleast won't instantly kill you

viral solstice
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i mean

olive ember
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pox hounds

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are worse

ionic frost
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The best is when mutants just yeet you off the map...

viral solstice
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i get why mutants work the way they do

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mutants have to deal with corners

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otherwise they would be kinda too exploitable

cyan notch
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just dont get grabbed lol

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thats just what i do

viral solstice
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the issue is that their wall detection and corner detection

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is really unintuitive

cyan notch
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whenever im going to get grabbed i just dont

viral solstice
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im with u

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whenever i see a dog

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instead of getting pounced

spice veldt
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they can still have their tight turning radius without the whole "not breaking tracking when dodging around corners" thing

viral solstice
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this is the ideal way to handle a poxhound btw

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please study this documentary

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and take notes

feral verge
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Getting pounced or grabbed or trapped is really just a mindset issue that you can overcome

dire smelt
viral solstice
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u see how i did literally nothing, the dog committed suicide, and i was credited the kill

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just do that

dire smelt
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can transfer peril proc on multiple targets from the same projectile?

viral solstice
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yes

dire smelt
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ok so bis

viral solstice
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its incredibly good ya

dire smelt
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really feels like voidstrike has it all tbh

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the brittle on trauma could be interesting

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if not for the fact the range upper band is terrible

feral verge
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People sleep on void

viral solstice
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i mean the issue with voidstrike is quite straightforward

feral verge
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There are some people here who call it bad and I'm like

viral solstice
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its like - and i say this with a straight face - literally quite well balanced

feral verge
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Are you even playing the same game

viral solstice
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its worse into hordes than trauma or purg

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its worse at cc than surge (kinda)

dire smelt
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yes i get it

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the thing is

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for the variety of situations you face

viral solstice
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ye i like it a lot

dire smelt
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in a damnation run

viral solstice
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and u still got brainburst

dire smelt
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you can be fine in any situation

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whereas

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if you are on trauma

viral solstice
dire smelt
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and you have an ogryn that is running around with a shotgun

viral solstice
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u see u say that

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and now im just thinking to myself

dire smelt
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and the veteran with the autopistol

viral solstice
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what if u get surge nexus on ur trauma

dire smelt
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the first room you enter full of ranged dudes

viral solstice
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and run around doing surge left clicks

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and im thinking about it harder than i should

dire smelt
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what is surge nexus anyway? Hmmge

spice veldt
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ehhhhhhhhh, if you enter at the same time, trauma is still going to be competitive with those two

viral solstice
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surge blessing - double shot on crit - warp nexus - more crit with higher peril

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on trauma it only procs on left clicks

spice veldt
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and trauma is going to be as effective at any distance within its range

dire smelt
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oh

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surge is on crit

viral solstice
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yea

dire smelt
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i want that perk so badly

viral solstice
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its kind of a meme but its a meme i really want

dire smelt
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ever since i saw it

viral solstice
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because i want to shoot more than one blob

dire smelt
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wait

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left clicks?

viral solstice
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on trauma that is

dire smelt
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nvm

viral solstice
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on voidstrike its both

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and yes ive been fishing for it

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page after page

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of fishing

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i need to roll a good trauma

dire smelt
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wasnt there a perk that had double hit on fully charged trauma?

viral solstice
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so i can calibrate my expectations

dire smelt
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or am i misremembering?

viral solstice
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wait im gonna bring my fireball staff

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hell yea

olive ember
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you are thinking of surge but turns out it only works on lmb

viral solstice
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this is my special sauce staff

dire smelt
viral solstice
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i use it when i want to do badly

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its beautiful

olive ember
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surge does work on rmb for voidstrike

dire smelt
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worthless on trauma

viral solstice
olive ember
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but either way its not that good

viral solstice
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i mean

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it rules

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random shit proccing

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always rules

dire smelt
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ye but charged voidstrike does not need surge to be good on its own

olive ember
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the crit chance on both staves by default is 5%

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even with warp nexus you have like a 15% chance to crit

viral solstice
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warp nexus should be a feat tbh

olive ember
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they need to fix the thresholds

viral solstice
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d/w i submitted it with code to the cm who passed on my shit last time

dire smelt
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but in that case wouldnt quell speed be the dump stat?

viral solstice
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i just upgrade all my over 360 bases

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to rng surge

dire smelt
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oh

viral solstice
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ive got like 50 of them

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and have only ever got 1 t4 blessing

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which is warp flurry

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but i got it 4x

feral verge
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How much plasteel do you have lol

viral solstice
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zero

dire smelt
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just crank out damnation missions

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and run like a rabid dog for plasteel

feral verge
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I'm trying to hoard plasteel

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Waiting for crafting to get better

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Ik prolly won't happen

viral solstice
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but i dont farm

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i just play random damnations

feral verge
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But my shit is good enough and I don't feel like wasting mats

viral solstice
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on whatever character im enjoying

feral verge
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I q on damnation for fun

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I barely pick up mats

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I just watch over the team

olive ember
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quickplay

dire smelt
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hoarding

feral verge
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Yup

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I only have 14k saved up so far lol

viral solstice
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u get so much plasteel now

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relative to how it used to be

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im just like

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i get to make a terrible decision every mission

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hell yea

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talking of: doing torrent

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2 suicides so far

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bought time to pee

feral verge
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Those are real gamer strats

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Don't tell the team to wait a sec while you piss

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Go blow yourself up to buy piss time

dire smelt
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why isnt friendy fire in the game? PES_Think

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at least it would teach players not to get in the line of fire of teammates

feral verge
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Ogryn would become the worst class lol

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They'd soak up and cause the most friendly fire

dire smelt
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they already are the worst teammates rn

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qp is literally unplayable without a piercing weapon

feral verge
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Idk I've seen many awful vets

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My fav variant of awful player is the kind that rushes ahead, gets downed while alone, dies and then leaves

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Within 5-10 mins of the game starting

dire smelt
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the more recent development is the hero that tries to save them and die right after

river sand
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is this just my impression or does brunts give you less good weapons since the low cap is at 300. havent seen a 370+ for at least 1.5 million ordos

olive ember
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I have like 2k diamantine

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and no plasteel

viral solstice
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idk i have a jillion diamantine on everybody

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i have been only playing damnation since week 1 tho

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and like 6-800 per mission now

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feels liek so much when it used to be 200 lol

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nowe are gaming

dire smelt
viral solstice
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wait need to fix it actually

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perfect

dire smelt
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more mk4 dueling meme rewards from the emprah

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curio chance is a WEAK attempt

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are you even trying?

viral solstice
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no i need more +3 stam curios

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thats my only one

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need curio stat

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pls do NOT talk about high level meta gear (sedition+) until ur regularly clearing sedition with an organised group

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thank u

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ok somebody wanted a brain burst only run so i gotta get on that

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damn brain burst is op i should use that move

dire smelt
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I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Acolytes, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Atoma, and I have over 300 confirmed sedition runs. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top BrainBurster in the entire Inquisition. You are nothing to me but just another target.

viral solstice
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fk first i pissed of the navy seal and now this, im fuked

dire smelt
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is BB better than melee vs the shielded bosses?

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i guess it depends on melee weapon but for the likes of dueling letter opener bb seems to do more?

viral solstice
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u mean ass targets?

river tundra
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yo is this the place to ask for an assist on Malleus Monstronum or is there another place for that

viral solstice
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if u get lucky u might find some frondly assistants tho i think vox lexicanum is the place ur meant to go

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but ive never tried

near wyvern
viral solstice
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short answer is melee is better

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does 3x damage to void shield

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unless bb is doing something very weird

near wyvern
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In general if you have a good melee it should be better DPS than BB tho

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Only exception is probably crushers

idle bay
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I starting to really hate CUMo-vets. Those little **nts! You know you have them in team when shooting starts and only your face is catching bullets despite being in cover ๐Ÿ™‚

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We need 'in-game report button. Like for karking sabotage and griefing

viral solstice
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whats cumo

clear hamlet
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my lunch

cyan notch
viral solstice
cold geode
viral solstice
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they should let u block with ur brainburst hands

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and if u press it perfectly in time

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u can catch unblockables like the overheads

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das factual

olive ember
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that but with hands

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and not deflector

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#balanced

viral solstice
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can anybody think of any ranged weapon blessings that affect ur melee weapon rn

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other than expansive for kickback

clear hamlet
viral solstice
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rare footage of daigo actually angry

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crushers turtle style

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o shi-

acoustic trench
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Trauma staff enjoyers, this any good?

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Obviously gonna replace Blazing Spirit but what about the perks?

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Is Unarmoured useless for breakpoints?

lethal folio
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Unarmoured lets you break dreg bruisers.

viral solstice
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blazing spirit is chad to keep to be fair

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tfw u blow everybody up

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but also set them on fire

lethal folio
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It's nearly the best burny trauma you can get.

viral solstice
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btw can u think of any ranged weapon blessings that affect ur melee weap rn other than expansive

acoustic trench
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Isn't +3 stacks of soul blaze just useless?

lethal folio
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Other than debuffs no.

viral solstice
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was hoping one had escaped me

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rip in pepperoncini

acoustic trench
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Like soulblaze is good when it's actually stacked but +3 is just useless I feel

viral solstice
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yeah that soulblaze caps at 6

acoustic trench
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I also recall there being a trauma staff special blessing right?

viral solstice
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so on voidstrike

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its ok because the projectile and the explosion apply it

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u can get 6

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which is better than nothing

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but for trauma its just nice colours

acoustic trench
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Ehh I guess I buy it and tinker with it in the future

viral solstice
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yeee

clear hamlet
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Crab gets a cut of the melk bucks you spend don't listen to him

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I wish I knew how to ahk, toggling that shit is annoying af

rocky cedar
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Spamming uncharged trauma might kinda work but I'm yet to get a funny fire trauma to play around with

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I think you're definitely gonna want crit chance perk as well to have any hope of it coming into play much

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Can't imagine it being more effective than full charge spam with warp flurry but eh maybe you can get a decent AB loop going on high int

river sand
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yay finally

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crafted only 50 voids for that transfer blessing .....

rocky cedar
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I've really got to give void a decent try some time. Only staff I've spent basically no time with.

leaden thunder
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void is a very good dopamine factory

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point at heads

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and listen to the noise

steel flame
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I'm still on my crafting spree for laspistol. At some point I'll start on void or trauma staff

clear hamlet
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I got a nice laspistol yesterday

steel flame
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Laspistol and knife makes me feel very cool

clear hamlet
steel flame
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Spent an entire mission on full health with that combo right till the point where I got combod into the ground by 3 snipers

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Like 2 minutes from the end

clear hamlet
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I wish there was a shared inventory for common weapons

steel flame
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Personally I prefer toughness on crit kill which triggers all the freakin time to really smooth out the toughness regen

clear hamlet
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Yeah I have that too

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Considered it since I suck dick with headshots

steel flame
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Infernus makes my brain happy but I found most of the time the crits are what kill so infernus doesn't trigger 3/4 of the time xP

clear hamlet
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Gun oriented psyker when

steel flame
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What build you run?

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This is what I run most of the time. Constant Regen from Flayer and crit kills. Wrack and ruin let's me melt mixed waves with ogryns. KB so I can get like 12 stacks of SB when there are multiple elites

clear hamlet
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Let me hop on the game and I'll tell you

viral solstice
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they should make ur gun shoot brains and ur brain shoot guns

steel flame
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Ikr

forest coral
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Mind bullets

steel flame
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Best part of gun psyker is there really isn't any reason to not pick wrack and ruin. Gives much needed wave clear for mixed hordes. Not like your using that peril for anything else

forest coral
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To deafen myself for immersion with demon voices

steel flame
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Lol

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Also laceration is low key disgusting on gun psyker

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That shit let's you pop ogryns like they are paper mache

viral solstice
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tried a random purg game

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didnt feel... great

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mebbe i just need run n gun

clear hamlet
#

I'm gonna slap on reassuringly accurate

viral solstice
#

like dis

clear hamlet
#

@steel flame im gonna try cerebral with reassuringly accurate since I prefer communion with essence harvest

viral solstice
#

imagine if purg was purple

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purgle

clear hamlet
#

Imagine using purg

forest coral
#

I want rainbow fire

clear hamlet
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And not a gun

viral solstice
#

ive not used it before and i can confirm... it is not very exciting

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u go pshhhhhh with ur hand and then u put like not very much damage on the goobers in front of u

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and ur like dam imagine if this was a flamer

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its not, of course

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but just

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imagine

forest coral
#

Then youโ€™d be like psshhhh with your water gun except fire and goobers in front of u become steaks

viral solstice
#

pshhhhh

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mebbe i do a purg build but with VOIDSTRIKE

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revolutionise the gmae

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and use fire sword too

forest coral
#

Crab i want my fire weapon

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That requires me to hit things but u know

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Works

rocky cedar
#

Please fatshark make it good

viral solstice
#

ill do it

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and ill call it a build

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does that count

forest coral
#

Itโ€™s filled with too much hopium crab

viral solstice
#

i mean my normal build is

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use voidstrike

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and have warp unleashed

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so really im not losin anythin

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advantage of not reading ur class tooltips

forest coral
#

Hah, imagine thinking I can read

lethal folio
#

I used to use warp unleashed, but now I'm a wrack fan.

steel flame
forest coral
#

Simply incomprehensible

clear hamlet
#

@steel flame I tried without communion, didn't generate enough charges

steel flame
#

Did you forget I use BB and wrack

clear hamlet
#

I did use them

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At least with reassuringly accurate I'm useless still but at least I don't die KEKW_ogryn

steel flame
#

One of the reasons I also use 3 relics with toughness Regen speed perks is to get that warp charge Regen as fast as possible and alongside ally Regen I find it enough to keep me at full toughness

clear hamlet
#

I only have two atm

steel flame
viral solstice
#

i love the way that the purgatus flashbangs u

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incredibly useful

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that u get to bring ur own self-cc

lethal folio
viral solstice
#

great weapon 10/10 no comments

clear hamlet
#

I'm gonna make a bis purg just to delete it

lethal folio
#

Wrack explosion also applies a ministun which is cool.

viral solstice
viral solstice
#

tbh

olive ember
#

is damnation rly that bad?

viral solstice
#

its just nice setting stuff on fire

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i mean

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no?

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i guess im in it

olive ember
#

idk

viral solstice
clear hamlet
olive ember
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the first take is how after patch damnation pugs are suddenly rly bad and then like the 2nd take I saw as about how all difficulties should have the same reward so they can screw around in lower diffs

lethal folio
#

Damnation still has people dropping medkits on stations.

forest coral
#

Well after patch

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I literally had pugs who would run up to stunned poxbursters to hit them with melee

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Itโ€™s toned down a bit butโ€ฆ yeh

viral solstice
#

yeah its fucked in damnation rn check out this footage of a psyker i got in my game earlier

olive ember
#

like this is such a dumb take

viral solstice
#

disgraceful behaviour look at this

olive ember
#

the guy is playing hardest difficulty in the game, throwing, and then is mad that people aren't particularly happy that he's doing dumb shit in damnation lmao

viral solstice
#

wut

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embed just refusin to work again okok

olive ember
#

where is your peril noises

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smh

forest coral
#

Like this was shoutyranni and me playing during patch

olive ember
#

are you even playing psyker

viral solstice
#

i mean

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u can tell THAT GAMER

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(criminal)

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is a criminal

forest coral
#

Crab lmao

viral solstice
#

fuck u medkit

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i want to explode

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ok im going fireball build

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its got it all

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wrack and ruin

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kinetic flayer

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fire ball

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fire sword

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jort

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everything

forest coral
#

Does kinetic flayer trigger with wrack

viral solstice
#

E V E R Y T H I N G

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undoubtedly

forest coral
viral solstice
#

and it will ALWAYS trigger on an elite

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i paid it to

idle bay
forest coral
#

you might be into somethin

steel flame
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Jk

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I wish

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Flayer can trigger wrack and ruin but flayer will never get triggered by soulblaze damage

forest coral
#

Unacceptable

patent steeple
# idle bay <@345531303942291457> have you seen this testing? https://www.reddit.com/r/Dark...

i just took a quick look at this, and stopped reading once the text mentioned making the minimum amount of crit chance to be about 25% with no peril... (tbh i did not pay attention enough to figure out whether the text referred to a blessing or the weapon itself with the changes, but i dont think paying attention to such matters is a good idea due to a risk of losing all sanity and common sense)

cyan notch
#

20% from crit bonus and 5% from perk

viral solstice
#

and 69% from jort

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ok i should have taken ascendant blaze

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i don have enuff fire

ember hornet
#

I feel like I haven't burned anything on psyker yet

#

I think I have preconceptions about soulblaze being bad from reading/hearing about psyker

summer prairie
#

After some testing it does feel like the crit rate is much lower than expected when you have flurry+nexus on surge

viral solstice
#

top damage as fireball psyker this build is SO meta rn

olive ember
#

I believe in what the math people say

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My brain too smol

zinc phoenix
# olive ember

I do think itโ€™s dumb just how much more damnation pays than heresy. It makes it so thereโ€™s no point in playing heresy especially when itโ€™s not all that big a jump

olive ember
#

I mean at the end of the day I think its going to have to be something where damnation has to be worth doing more than heresy

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otherwise why would you run damnation over heresy

zinc phoenix
#

It should pay more, but right now it pays so much that you get close to the same when losing in damn as winning in heresy

olive ember
#

idk

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cuz we had what was the opposite pre patch

#

where technically yeah damnation paid more than heresy and heresy more than malice etc.

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but it wasn't actually worth running

cyan notch
#

because no emp gifts

olive ember
#

๐Ÿค”

zinc phoenix
#

The emp gift differential is crazy

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โ€œHereโ€™s your shitty blueโ€ vs โ€œhere is an actual usable top tier weaponโ€

olive ember
#

Idk its a bit weird but even with emp gift

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Idk i've just been getting a bunch of trash 450 golds (thats like a 320 base) on damnation

zinc phoenix
#

Yeah but you can get t3/t4 traits for free

cyan notch
#

ive gotten a few t4s

zinc phoenix
#

And absurd mat counts that make it cheap to roll for more

olive ember
#

I suppose so but you also need the right combination, in that sense spamming malice for decent base stat greens would be more efficient than praying for good stats + good blessings in damnation

zinc phoenix
#

While on heresy you just get middle finger ๐Ÿ˜‚

olive ember
#

tho i am fine with heresy rewards getting tweaked

viral solstice
#

they should give more for heresy but they should give more for playing with idiots tbh its fucked up ppl have to play with me and dont get more shit

#

fatshark fix it

cyan notch
#

why spam malice when u can do damnation and get money to buy from brunts

zinc phoenix
viral solstice
#

why spam damnation when u can do sedition and get respect u can use to level up ur gang rating

olive ember
#

oh god

#

ELO

zinc phoenix
#

๐ŸงŒ

leaden thunder
#

opinions about headtaker + thrust axe tech with purgatus

olive ember
#

enlighten me on the tech

cyan notch
#

cheating

olive ember
#

also @leaden thunder did you see the crit revelations (unconfirmed) from reddit

leaden thunder
#

soulblaze stack headtaker

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and thrust increases burn damage

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double power boost

viral solstice
#

like u can do that but fundamentally ur still using purgatus

#

think about it

lethal folio
#

I wouldn't use it with Purgatus, just use more fire. I use it to boost ascendant blaze.

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I do something similar on vet with frag storm

leaden thunder
#

I see

olive ember
#

btw I forgot did they mention what would be in the big patch LateMarchTM

summer prairie
#

You can also full charge thrust and then block cancel. The thrust bonus doesn't go away and your AB stacks get the power bonus until you melee/switch.

cyan notch
#

cheating (again)

summer prairie
#

it's not even good though

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I guess against some elites

summer prairie
#

or if you have only 4 stacks

lethal folio
#

Stickerbooks

olive ember
#

I mean half of me is still convinced that the armor strip from zealot's F is a bug

leaden thunder
#

how much power is thrust t4?

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100%? or 90%

cyan notch
#

theyll nerf flamer and be like 5% damage reduction

lethal folio
#

thrust is 20% x 3

viral solstice
#

all this effort to just do what pinning fire blaze away autopistol does while doing more damage and suppressing everything smh

leaden thunder
#

but one is more janky

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and thus funnier

vestal rose
#

this game has been out for months
why do people still believe in the "charge into an open room full of gunners without your team" strategy aaaaa

#

in other news this is day ten of trying to get a single run and gun for my purg staff
i am going insane

steel egret
#

I'm pretty used to people dying before first medicae station.

#

hence why I play less.

worn cypress
viral solstice
worn cypress
#

charging head first into stuff occasionally inspires people to move along

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or I die

viral solstice
vestal rose
#

i respect it, normally

viral solstice
#

look at this GOON

cyan notch
#

user error

worn cypress
#

lmao

vestal rose
#

but when people walk into a giant room, stand in the open, and get shredded by literally six gunners and four reapers like
please

viral solstice
#

idk how its ok players like that are in ppls games

#

fix it fatshark

clear hamlet
#

What a fucking loser this random stranger on your team! @viral solstice

viral solstice
#

exactly!!!!

cyan notch
#

well if u fly in and die that doesnt really do anything

#

now ur team cant res you and they have to clear everything out with less people

idle plover
#

Any suggestions on blessings change?

zinc phoenix
#

I do yolo rooms full of those blobs of shooters all hanging out together and it works fine but if theyโ€™re spread nah

worn cypress
#

oh yeah actually

#

I duo a lot with a zealot friend

#

and probably yolo more than I should be when soloing bc I'm used to charge into things knowing that my friend's also doing that

viral solstice
#

when solo always yolo

worn cypress
#

hell yea

#

why play purg staff if you're not playing discount zealot

vestal rose
#

alright im done

#

ten minutes into a damnation solo
two people join
the director spawns dogs on top of them as they're spawning in lmao

near wyvern
vestal rose
#

not wrong

idle bay
#

Fatshark spaghetti code 101

summer prairie
#

I don't know about his other tests but with t4 nexus+flurry surge the crit rate was consistently much lower than expected when chaining. I wasn't meticulous but at the very least I'm leaning on it being more likely than not that the bugged flurry is causing other issues

near wyvern
#

With my testing I did:

  1. T4 nexus void, 99 peril, 163 hits => 26.4% crits => as expected
  2. T3 nexus purgatus, 99peril, 145 hits => 26.2% crits => 5% higher than expected
  3. T3 nexus purgatus, 90 peril, 215 hits => 13.9% crits => matches 2 stacks + 5% base crit
  4. T3 nexus purgatus, 0 peril,
    201 hits => 5.5% crits => matches 5% base crit

So there was an outlier (test 2). Don't know if that's my mistake or if there is something funny going on, but it seems base crit is around 5% and the last 2 stacks are definitely gained above 90.

summer prairie
#

void doesn't suffer from the bug anyway if you are just chaining normally

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surge always does when you chain

near wyvern
#

Yeah I wouldn't blame nexus at this point on surge before flurry is fixed if they are both present. If there is a staff with only nexus, then one can blame nexus if that is not behaving nicely.

summer prairie
#

He was blaming flurry

near wyvern
#

For a reason

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The implementation for it on surge and purge is a hot pile of ๐Ÿถ ๐Ÿ’ฉ

viral solstice
#

i did a crit

near wyvern
summer prairie
#

added this data point

river sand
#

just had a game with 3 camo expert vets ..... master-race of stupidity ...

near wyvern
#

@viral solstice must have a great gaming chair since they are critting

near wyvern
viral solstice
#

a lot of ppl dont realise how similar getting a crit and making a billion dollars from ur ipo are

river sand
#

they stand everywhere, shooting stuff, zero awareness, getting killed by single poxwalkers and i really had some struggle cause im the only one getting aggro ...

near wyvern
#

Who in the right mind implemented that. It should be just like "gives enemies X% chance to miss their volley and avoid the supression". Why there is a feat to pour more ๐Ÿ’ฉ on other players in the team, without asking.

#

It's not something I can opt out. No, I don't want the extra ranged fire on me with 100 toughness thank you.

river sand
idle bay
near wyvern
#
grizzled jasper
viral solstice
#

fireball build one of the builds of all time

#

i can confirm

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i dont think it blows u up enough to be viable tho

#

so back to drawing board

near wyvern
#

It would be nice if they changed Camo Expert to "while standing still, enemies are less likely to target you, but you also take now damage from your teams non-melee attacks"

Payback time bitch

viral solstice
#

who unironically takes camo expert tho

#

thats sus behaviour

#

some might even say

#

suspicioso

cyan notch
#

a bunch of people sadly

viral solstice
#

what tier is it on i honestly cant remember

cyan notch
#

although i havent seen too many recently

steel flame
#

I like hiding then watching as the entire horde pivots on the camo vet

leaden thunder
steel flame
#

What if camo didn't reduce aggro but instead reduced enemy accuracy when targeting you

#

By alot

viral solstice
#

o ye duck n dive tier

#

never taken any of the coward feats

near wyvern
#

That's my opinion as well. Just make it so that standing still makes enemies miss their ranged attacks (like while dodging) X% of the time and also avoid the supression when that happens.

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It's quite unhealthy to make something one player can pick that will affect the amount of enemies other players have to fight without giving them an opt out

steel flame
#

It would have the same effect without being a detriment to the rest of the team

summer prairie
#

the chance would have to be very high when competing against 75% toughness dmg reduction

viral solstice
#

well that shit needs to be nerfed anyway

summer prairie
#

yes

near wyvern
#

Other option is to make it 100% but last for X seconds on the activation of volley fire

#

So you can pop out Infront of 2 reapers, 4 gunners and a sniper and say hello if you really need to

steel flame
#

Give psyker a new feat over quicken. Ult Makes all enemies lose aggro for x amount of time based on warp charges. Call it Warp Mirage. Make vets eat their own medicine

near wyvern
#

Poor zealots and Ogryns will get all the mobs instead

steel flame
#

Don't lie. You know that's what they get wet dreams about

near wyvern
#

Make veterans with camo expert to form teams only with other camo expert veterans for a week, that should teach them

kind jay
#

you guys are thinking about this the wrong way. the simple solution is to let us BB vets.

near wyvern
viral solstice
#

how do u bb a vet

#

what do u target

steel flame
#

Ouch

cyan notch
#

balls

near wyvern
#

Starting to BB a lone trash mob for stacks. Veteran with the bolter goes to blast it's brains out. Guess who will be used to replenish my stacks now.

safe crystal
#

The easiest solution to camo vets is grabbing all the melee mobs, not killing any of them, and pulling them where the vets are standing

near wyvern
safe crystal
#

Alternatively, find a ammo box, put next to barrel on a bridge, blow it up as the vets swarm on it

steel flame
#

And this. This is how sedition starts and I'm here for it

muted egret
#

Any advice on beginner pshyker builds?

#

Please @ me...

viral solstice
#

some say i have become too "good" at psyker

clear hamlet
#

Crab the Impaler

shut ether
elder rain
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

meager rune
#

Is there any easy way to do Pick n'Mix?

shut ether
elder rain
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

shut ether
#

I find it to be the most consistent toughness regen talent.

near wyvern
#

@muted egret levelling or fresh 30?

muted egret
#

levelign

#

just got really unlucky at the sewers

shut ether
muted egret
#

currently level 10

#

staffs are hard

shut ether
#

Which staff are you using?

pine hearth
#

which one is worth upgrading?

muted egret
#

I only have lightning and burst unlocked

#

Thats a tough one

shut ether
#

Don't upgrade anything till 30 personally

#

one on the right I'd say. Wait you got that at level 10?!

#

Oh different person KEKW_ogryn

acoustic trench
#

DDoes ranged critical strike chance affect enemies that are already burning or does it only matter the first time they get damaged by my flame cloud?

shut ether
leaden thunder
#

^

shut ether
#

Does nothing after stacks are applied

leaden thunder
#

which is better then it sounds

#

becuase 2 stacks is more then double damage

acoustic trench
#

So should I switch the perk for flak damage or smt?

leaden thunder
#

eh, it's fine as is

shut ether
#

Flak is not needed because flak takes 2X damage from soulblaze

acoustic trench
#

Gotcha

#

Thanks

muted egret
#

Im just dont want to be deadweight to my team... which is why im asking about low level tips, reccomendations and builds.

near wyvern
#

@muted egret

For levelling you want to go the gun psyker build all the way up to around 20-25. The staves get noticeably better and scale past the guns when the stats are good and when going to higher difficulties. Everything works without any trouble at Malice and lower.

Feat wise I recommend to go:

  1. Essence Harvest
  2. Wrack and Ruin
  3. Psykinetic's Aura
  4. Kinetic Deflection or Kinetic Shield + Stamina curio
  5. Kinetic Flayer

Pair that with any gun other than the revolver and you are good to go.

Melee weapon wise you want to try different things, especially dagger and combat axe mk V when you get the Kinetic Deflection so you can push attack spam with them. Duelling sword is also a really solid option.

Stay away from Force Sword unless it has Slaugherer on it. Deflection is an overrated feat and it's training wheels which can be hard to let go, Force Sword has unlimited dodges so stop cosplaying a Jedi and start killing stuff.

Brain Burst, or BB as we call it, is your main roughness regen source. You only need LOS when acquiring the target, you can finish the cast while hiding. Don't get too attached to how it gibs everything at low levels in one shot.

You can always safely cast a BB when you are at 97% or less peril, so don't over quell when you need to cast many back to back. Your ult ability takes you out of the explosion animation, so when you have hour ult, you can safely cast that extra BB and ult to save you from exploding and get 1 BB for free.

shut ether
idle bay
#

I wonder if Unlimited Dodges on FS is also unintended

shut ether
#

Doesn't it have a very short dodge distance to compensate?

acoustic trench
summer prairie
#

When you quell with BB, you can safely start casting as soon as you see numbers dropping from 100, even if it briefly shows 98 when you start

#

one tic of BB quelling actually takes you to 91.67 instantly

#

Unless it was passive quelling of course

viral solstice
#

wrong, if ur good enough u can suicide no matter what ur peril says

#

im not saying this is a skill issue but u might want to work on ur death mechanics

summer prairie
#

An advanced tech is to let the LMB go briefly and then resume BBing from 100

sonic coral
#

is blazing spirit any good on trauma?

leaden thunder
#

noSitgryn

sonic coral
#

blazing spirit sounds cool in theory but seems like dogshit chance of proc

leaden thunder
#

it's funni tho

coarse dagger
sonic coral
#

plus if it does proc they're dead anyway so what the hell does the burn apply to?

small whale
#

๐Ÿ˜ณ

sonic coral
#

maybe a boss? possibly? once?

coarse dagger
#

im seeing alot more trauma staffs lately did they get a buff?

sonic coral
#

a few updates ago yea

#

for one the peril is now not so absolutely shit that the secondary is unusable

coarse dagger
leaden thunder
#

that + people realiing it wasn't that shit anyway

coarse dagger
#

well tbh its not good that its the first staff you getr

#

id say its not easy for starting players

leaden thunder
#

voidstrike should probably be the first one tbh

#

since it's just the primary fire but better as the sepecial

coarse dagger
#

also has fs said anything about us not being able to bb target through fences and such things?

coarse dagger
fiery atlas
sonic coral
#

they said they improved it (they lied)

leaden thunder
#

I thought that got fixed

coarse dagger
#

nope

#

still same thing

#

cant target

#

but you can get shot at lol

leaden thunder
coarse dagger
sonic coral
#

plasma can clear the next room of elites before you even walk through the door but NO you cannot BB through a wire railing you absolute maniac

fiery atlas
#

just use purgatus clown_hadron

coarse dagger
#

my main staff

sonic coral
#

what blessings are good on purgatus? I'm trying to build one

leaden thunder
#

plasma may be able to do that but idk if i'd want to be compared to it

coarse dagger
summer prairie
#

warp nexus and focused channeling

coarse dagger
#

yeah focused channeling def

leaden thunder
#

flurry if it works/when it gets fixed

coarse dagger
sonic coral
#

focused channeling keeps from being interrupted yea? makes sense

leaden thunder
#

I mean as far as I know it just like

#

doesn't work

#

at all

#

on some staves

clear hamlet
#

I wonder if I should sac my infernus iv laspistol to rebless my vet's pistol..

coarse dagger
#

sell or keep going?

leaden thunder
#

it has bomber res sell

#

unless you feel real lucky

coarse dagger
#

cant get a tough relic that doesnt get shit perks

leaden thunder
#

that's why I jsut use purples on a lot of my characters

coarse dagger
leaden thunder
#

man

#

my psyker is really poor

shut ether
#

Tell me about it. I just upgraded a bunch of antaxes to try and find brutal momentum but not a single one rolled it clown_hadron

#

Great system obese dolphin

mental junco
#

i saw the daemonhost left, and its not

#

it get totally invisible somehow

sonic coral
#

which is more important on purgatus, warp flurry or warp nexus?

#

I keep fucking rolling run n gun...

#

I have a tier 3 flurry but only a tier 2 nexus

leaden thunder
#

nexus is more important since idk if flurry actually works at the moment

sonic coral
#

ah alright

sterile vale
sonic coral
#

that makes sense, thanks for the additional detail

sterile vale
#

That reminds me, does the Force Sword 100% crit chance on special kill allow for a guaranteed ranged crit?

leaden thunder
#

unfortunately no

sterile vale
#

Dangit

leaden thunder
#

that would be too much fun

#

though it's not just the next attack on the force sword

sterile vale
#

That would've at least been SOME synergy

leaden thunder
#

it's the next 5 seconds

sonic coral
#

I've never used purgatus seriously before, here is the feat list I'm looking to try (everything burn-related)

leaden thunder
#

you want 6 charges instead of the other one

#

6 charges makes your ascendandt blaze 1 shot shooters on any difficulty

sonic coral
#

Oh snap, yea that would be nice

#

Good tip

#

And in theory it should be fairly straightforward to hang around 6 charges with the additional padding from burning crowds

#

Kind of hate not having the amped up BB but I'll see how it treats me

lunar hollow
#

just got t4 slaughterer on a force sword i upgraded to gold

#

wooooooo

#

how horrible is this

pine hearth
#

so the trauma staff is like a surge staff that does damage

#

and can hit everything

stable silo
#

what does noob psyker take for feats

pine hearth
#

eh everything can work

formal flume
#

For a noob psyker, deflector is a must

spice veldt
lunar hollow
#

hmmmmmm

spice veldt
#

shame about the perks but the stat rolls looks decent

sonic coral
#

alright just did a go with essence harvest / purgatus for toughness

spice veldt
#

slap bloodthirsty on it once you get it and I will then be mad jealous

lunar hollow
#

thats the plan

sonic coral
#

I feel like quell might be more reliable on purg

lunar hollow
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i upgraded it thinking it was one of the shittier force swords ive got

sonic coral
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anyone who runs purg regularly care to weigh in?

lunar hollow
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and then i randomly happened upon t4 slaughterer

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the FS special applies all the stacks of uncanny strike

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hmmm

spice veldt
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unfortunately, uncanny strike doesn't benefit the special because It seems to have at least 100% damage against every armour type

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not that I've rigorously tested it

lunar hollow
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shame

lethal folio
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Special is 200% on flak and 100% on everything else.

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It's still nice to have some rending to finish off maniacs that have just a little too much health, or swing through mixed hordes.

clear hamlet
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this dude was saving grenades for darktide 2 and magdumped hounds with boltguns

long wharf
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maybe he knows something we don't

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like a severe grenade shortage in Darktide 2

summer prairie
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It's multiplicative

clear hamlet
long wharf
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did he choke on a grenade?

clear hamlet
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he choked on a mutie's NUTS

long wharf
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ah, that happens

spice veldt
summer prairie
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Yes

lethal folio
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That doesn't make each extra one weaker, it makes them equally effective.

long wharf
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that... doesn't look right

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raw damage - resistance = net damage

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resistance is raw damage * damage resistance

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or

gloomy obsidian
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Is re-bless brroken for all primary weapons

long wharf
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raw * (1 - resistance%)

spice veldt
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rebless works, but blessings are only shared between weapons of the same weapon family

long wharf
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which is the same equation in actuality

spice veldt
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For example, blessings from recon lasguns can not be transferred over to infantry lasguns; and blessings between different staffs (Purg, surge, trauma, void) also are not shared

gloomy obsidian
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What stats really matter for the void staff

viral solstice
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everythin other than quell speel blast radius

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so max those 3 then pick ur luxury

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from last 2

gloomy obsidian
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So damage is key over blast then?

spice veldt
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yup; since the blast radius doesn't have very good scaling except on the outer radius (which does meh damage) and the epicentre has a cleave limit anyways

gloomy obsidian
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ok

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Just got one with these stats