#psyker-class

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viral solstice
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and that gives u visual feedback when u iframe a bullet

fierce sinew
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it's easier to get shot by the guy who did you the courtesy of pumping his gun in an exaggerated way in front of you, making a noise, and showing a light

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and complain

feral verge
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I tried binding crouch and dodge to spacebar and it didn't work

viral solstice
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ye i suspect the default binds

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being not great

spice veldt
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yeah binding crouch and dodge just makes you do a crouching slide instead of a dodge-slide

viral solstice
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jump/dodge being same button

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das not great

robust meteor
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what tier would u put this sword

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spice veldt
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you'll need an external macro for that

fierce sinew
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default binds are some pad player shit

viral solstice
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its swag af

spice veldt
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i don't see precognition so it's probably decent

robust meteor
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it still feels weak in damnation+

feral verge
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The crit saber

viral solstice
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i mean its a bit of a meme

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but its such a swag concept

spice veldt
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i personally dislike the duelling swords because they have terrible cleave

viral solstice
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that i respect it

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tbf

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what would unironically make that feel better

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swap riposte for uncanny

robust meteor
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i love taking it on low intensity or heresy

viral solstice
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that way when ur pounding heads

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u get to turn round and dick crushers sometimes

fiery atlas
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no that was perfect dodges

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which were hard to pull off

viral solstice
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it was parries no

fiery atlas
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because of lag discrepancies

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perfect dodges rather than parries

viral solstice
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or am i hallucinating

robust meteor
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ill actually try it with uncanny

viral solstice
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this is what i mean

feral verge
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Kerillian player!! LMFAOO LMFAOO

viral solstice
fiery atlas
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oh ok

spice veldt
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"respectful" smh

feral verge
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Brought to you by saltzpyre gang

fiery atlas
robust meteor
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i collect swords yet have no uncanny blessing. thats wild

viral solstice
fiery atlas
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kill heretics

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kill elves

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my work is complete

viral solstice
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i made my binds increasingly deranged to do ever dumber quickswap shit while moving

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im now at right click to dodge levels of deranged

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spacebar for ads

spice veldt
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bruh

viral solstice
spice veldt
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what are you using your pinky for then

fiery atlas
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i use spacebar to run lol

viral solstice
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duck

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and ctrl which is jump

spice veldt
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and your sprint?

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is that also right-click

viral solstice
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mouse thumb button closest

fiery atlas
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ctrl user 🤮

spice veldt
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oh my lord

feral verge
viral solstice
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weapon special is mouse thumb button furthest

spice veldt
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my heart can not take this

feral verge
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That crab ain't right

spice veldt
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interesting binds

fiery atlas
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listen i have limited mobility on my hands

spice veldt
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reminds me of binds from quake players of the olden days

viral solstice
fiery atlas
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you're deranged

cold geode
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i bought one of those mmo mice just to have more buttons on it for macros and bindings

viral solstice
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and most of those binds

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are new for this game

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because i change my binds when i need to do diff shit

spice veldt
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i would hate to change my muscle memory so much

fiery atlas
viral solstice
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LASER SHOVEL

robust meteor
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i havent been playing much lately. whats the bright green frame

spice veldt
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most sane laspistol user

spice veldt
fiery atlas
robust meteor
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ah

feral verge
viral solstice
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my shovel doesnt have enough cleave

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solution

feral verge
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Ohhhg

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You said frame

robust meteor
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gotcha

feral verge
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Not flame

robust meteor
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owned

feral verge
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pwnd

spice veldt
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i had a double take as well

fiery atlas
viral solstice
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and to think my parents said i would never amount to anything

spice veldt
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pwned

viral solstice
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look at my beautiful rashad

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robust meteor
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hulk smash

feral verge
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It's shit

viral solstice
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yes

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brutal momentum bricked it

feral verge
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4% crit chance? Should be 5%

viral solstice
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i need to swap it for decimator

robust meteor
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i mean

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kill a boss fast

feral verge
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I'd use the starter devil claw over it

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Just because of the 4% crit chance

viral solstice
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bully da plogryn

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actually thats how long it takes solo

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its like 40s

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if u had unyielding

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and not bm

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it would be like 30

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mebbe less

fiery atlas
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smooth jazz to listen to while you murder plogryns in cold blood

feral verge
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Oh yeah

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Forgot you were a fellow female loner psyker

viral solstice
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i feel bad tho

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because i actively troll like 50% of my games

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so im always worried ill run into somebody here

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and they will be like

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"u got into my game blew up 2x in first 5mins then pulled everything on the map and jumped off"

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and all i can say is "yeah that sounds like something id do"

feral verge
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I will troll you if I see you

viral solstice
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thats the problem

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its just adding fuel to the fire

fiery atlas
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yeah because you're insane

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you ran 1h sword on shade

viral solstice
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it fucks

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u just chop

forest coral
fiery atlas
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you do that on handmaiden and sister

viral solstice
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i love how in vt2 unless u have mods u cant see how much damage ur doing

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the dummy is just like

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sorry we couldnt afford more than 255.75

fiery atlas
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fun fact

viral solstice
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like i refuse to believe thats because its an int8 or something

fiery atlas
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you can actually see the damage text from across the hub area

viral solstice
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its gotta be stupider

fiery atlas
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because damage numbers scale up in size with higher values

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so if you do something like 1000 damage it just blows up

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now with darktide

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idk

viral solstice
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darktide really impressed upon me how boring vt2s music was

near wyvern
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Jesper is a wizard

feral verge
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The time & hammer was my fav vt2 weapon

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Tome

near wyvern
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Time

feral verge
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Time

near wyvern
viral solstice
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sein und zeit und THE FUCKIN HAMMER

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  • imperial saying
feral verge
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Thyme

near wyvern
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Press F to stop everyone from moving

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Including Kerrigan

viral solstice
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i should make a guide to psyker suicides

near wyvern
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Ult feat: stop time only affects Kerrigan

viral solstice
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the last man standing suicide res is S+ tier

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the mutant grab suicide is idk i would say A, maybe A-

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due to the setup

feral verge
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Funny how zealot doesn't scratch the same itch for me like psyker does. When saltzpyre was my fav/main char

viral solstice
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the worst part is chat wasnt working that game

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so i couldnt see the panik

spice veldt
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I personally don't like the zealot melees

feral verge
near wyvern
fiery atlas
viral solstice
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u need the setup

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or they wont die

feral verge
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That would fuck so hard

viral solstice
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that one also needs the toggle peril explosion too

fiery atlas
feral verge
fiery atlas
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also saltzpyre zealot had vigor behind the va

near wyvern
feral verge
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I was about to suicide but a nurgle beast ate me

fiery atlas
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he'd scream "I AM THE COMET--I BURN THE IMPURE!"

viral solstice
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usually u just go off

fiery atlas
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and go mentally deranged thicco mode

viral solstice
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but sometimes they will plonk u on the ground

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and u explode at the end

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and sometimes they plonk u on the ground and u jsut get downed

fiery atlas
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dt zealot is like "waaargh for da emperah!"

feral verge
viral solstice
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i will say heavy sword is the best sword moveset by far

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way better than devil claw ignoring the fact it doesnt have a parry

fiery atlas
viral solstice
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heavy sword is a bit like executioner sword in that its a weakspot sword

near wyvern
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I find it funny how Battle Meditation can take you out of the explode animation. Lit everything with Soulblaze and roll the dice.

fiery atlas
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wait is the wep special on heavy sword a parry

viral solstice
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on heavy sword its a weird little sword spin that staggers and sets u up for a double speed followup heavy

feral verge
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@fiery atlas no

viral solstice
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its what happens to the first dudes head

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but u can use it without breaking sprint

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which is tight

fiery atlas
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what's the sword that you put up your hand and sword in front of your face for the wep special

viral solstice
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devil claw

fiery atlas
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ah ok

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what does that do

viral solstice
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gives u a special block state

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if u get hit by a blockable move in that period u will do a riposte

fiery atlas
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zamn

viral solstice
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like this

fiery atlas
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migth have to do that gigachad

feral verge
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Block state. Dodge state. Bitch, I need a pro state

rocky cedar
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Very good

viral solstice
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thats the same VI ive been using since like

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week 1

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never changed it

fiery atlas
viral solstice
forest coral
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Toaster special

fiery atlas
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the toaster special is different

viral solstice
fiery atlas
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that's when she rips out your skull and turns it into a servo skull

viral solstice
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oh yeah i remember why i wasnt testing devil claw on my psyker i dont have any 3stam curios noo

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gotta run the full 9stam

fiery atlas
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guh moment

feral verge
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What's the max stam possible

viral solstice
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u see this rager

feral verge
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What weapon has the most stam

viral solstice
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he sees that stamina bar

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he knows what the fuck is up

fiery atlas
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he does not

forest coral
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This man does cardio

fiery atlas
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do u know why

near wyvern
fiery atlas
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because he is about to lose all of his cranial matter

rocky cedar
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How long can you sprint for

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My god

viral solstice
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uhh about a minute

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one of those curios has 15% sprint eff

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get BOOLIED

fiery atlas
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so

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smelly

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stinky

rocky cedar
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That was super stylish

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Makes me wish parry was actually good

viral solstice
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if u know the exact details of the ragers like

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3 diff combos

near wyvern
viral solstice
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its... middling

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yes

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but not by doing that in the middle of trash

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because, incredibly annoyingly, parry has in effect a short icd

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and this is one of the tilting things about it

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so u have to trash clear and then stunt on the ragers

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but its fine because u can actually just trigger them into starting a combo

fiery atlas
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which shouldn't be hard

viral solstice
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then jog away to kill everything else

rocky cedar
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Parry attack should just be a strong horizontal cleave IMO

fiery atlas
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considering you just dodge rager atks

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and delete trash real quick

viral solstice
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well the irony is

fiery atlas
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and then some styling

viral solstice
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and this is really ironic given what i was saying earlier

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big chunks of waht ragers do

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is tagged "undodgeable"

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so u literally have to space it

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if u look at what im doing in those parry clips

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im spacing that swing

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not spot dodging it

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because if i spot dodge it i will get fucking slapped

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im also not parrying it

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because... its a double hit

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and it will go right thru the parry

fiery atlas
viral solstice
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now u might say "why did u bother learning that the rager has a bunch of double attacks so u could kill them slower than a single force sword special or a heavy special heavy combo on a heavy sword" and my answer would be yes

fiery atlas
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i should do force sword memes

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not because i wanna

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but because it would be funny

viral solstice
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im pretty sure force sword horde clear is better than devil claw too

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but keep that quiet

fiery atlas
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devil claw horde clear is heavy light

rocky cedar
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Oh crab what was the conclusion about laspistol push before? I'm assuming the Infernus interaction was not real

fiery atlas
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repeat

feral verge
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Nerf force sword

viral solstice
rocky cedar
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Shame but makes sense

viral solstice
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its possible theres something very stupid involving power

spice veldt
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mk7 is heavy-light, mk1 is heavy-heavy, and mk4 is light-heavy

viral solstice
near wyvern
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light heavy is the best

viral solstice
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so the mk 4 heavy - that cleave heavy - has exactly the same falloff properties as the mk IX heavy sword cleave heavy

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cool!

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except the mk IX gets 50% rampage, not 40%... and 75% power from headtaker

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and u want to hear the best part

rocky cedar
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What are peoples' favourite DC variant?

viral solstice
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mk IX heavy sword users never use that cleave heavy for horde clear because light mashing is better

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thats how bad devil claw horde clear is

fiery atlas
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i was doing it WRONG

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the entire time

viral solstice
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it doesnt matter

rocky cedar
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I always assumed IV was the best but I've not really experimented

viral solstice
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ur using a devil claw

fiery atlas
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also

viral solstice
fiery atlas
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for first talent

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what should I be using

rocky cedar
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I still think DS Shred Claw is pretty aight for Zealot for constant ults

feral verge
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None@fiery atlas

rocky cedar
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On everyone else ehhhhh

spice veldt
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early on, you don't have particularly access to good force weapons so essence harvest might be your best bet

viral solstice
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oh sure i mean its a sword with shred right

fiery atlas
feral verge
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Keep first talent row unequipped

viral solstice
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now im not saying that crit chainsword is better for that

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(crit chainsword is better for that)

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but if u have a bad chainsword u can run a shred dc for sure

rocky cedar
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Does chainsword get DS?

fiery atlas
viral solstice
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it does indeed

fiery atlas
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does it matter which wep you use

spice veldt
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on some builds, you might not BB that much

rocky cedar
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Yeah chainsword heavy chain is a fair bit slower, and DS fucks up maniacs surprisingly well

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But yeah I can imagine chainsword just does it better overall

spice veldt
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on purgatus with an AB build (10% chance to get warp charges on dead enemies that were afflicted from soulblaze), essence harvest is nice

viral solstice
spice veldt
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I personally run a Trauma + Force Sword build with high peril generation and I don't BB that much, so I run Quietude instead

viral solstice
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chainsword cleave distribution on its first heavy

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devil claw cleave distribution on its sweep heavy

fiery atlas
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my goal would optimally be to use bb on bigger threats

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and probably fart out some purgatus flames

viral solstice
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now it gets worse actually because...

rocky cedar
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Doesn't look that much in favour of chainsword?

viral solstice
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devil claw cleave on a flak target

spice veldt
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I use BB mostly for gunners, bombers, bulwarks, and reapers with my build

viral solstice
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chainsword cleave on a flak target

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now what this means

spice veldt
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I rarely ever BB enemies that aren't the above 4

viral solstice
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if u look carefully

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is that the chainsword does more damage

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to the second flak target

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than the first

spice veldt
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wtf?

viral solstice
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indeed

rocky cedar
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What the fuck fat shark

viral solstice
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but even if u just limited it to poxwalkers

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imagine this right

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ur hitting 5 enemies

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that chainswrod second target cleave distribution

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is damage equivalent to hitting +4 random gooners with splash

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so in 90% of situations the damage u actually deal is way higher

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but yeah its really dumb

rocky cedar
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I don't understand why claw cleave damage drop-off is so severe

feral verge
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It makes sense to me

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The first target merely acts as a battery

viral solstice
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i actually suspect that the diff in practice is not huge its just that u still have a chainsword so u can also revs hit

feral verge
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Charging up the sword

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To deal more DMG to second target

viral solstice
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but people think devil claw is a cleave weapon

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but remember those heavy values

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help im a poxwalker getting hit by a cleave heavy

fiery atlas
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poor pox walker

viral solstice
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help im a poxwalker getting hit

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by a grey heavy sword light attack

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a light attack

spice veldt
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damn, it actually gets straight up beaten by a force sword heavy

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viral solstice
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yes

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force sword heavy has good distribution

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i wasnt joking

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when i said its better

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force sword also has a built in 25% damage and unstable power / slaughterer

spice veldt
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i can reach 100 minimum cleave damage with the recent warp unleashed buff

viral solstice
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but yeah those heavy sword numbers

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lets be realistic

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and put blessings on

spice veldt
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also wtf 36 minimum cleave dmg lights

viral solstice
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yeah and that light has

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higher default cleave too

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7.5

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u know

spice veldt
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and 7.5

viral solstice
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small stuff

spice veldt
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oh my god

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that's basically a fucking heavy

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well except for the first target

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but god damn

viral solstice
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now

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heavy sword IX light 1

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mark IV heavy 2

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what do u see

spice veldt
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i see good balancing

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bro what the fuck

viral solstice
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now i hear u say

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but u use light heavy on 4

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right

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for horde clear

spice veldt
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i suppose

viral solstice
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the 3.6 light?

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like i genuinely have a theory that people who think devils claw is good at horde clear think this because they used them once and chopped a horde up at level 15 on malice

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and havent tried one since

fiery atlas
viral solstice
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they are f'real bad

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and if u actually look at the classes

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if ur a vet would u use a devil claw?

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no u would use... the power sword...

rocky cedar
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Oh yeah I forgot light 3 is randomly a strike down attack despite looking like all the others

viral solstice
rocky cedar
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What is up with that?

viral solstice
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now funny story about that strikedown light 3

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thats ur damage light

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freebie

fiery atlas
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wep balancing

viral solstice
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ur damage light with 1.3 targets does less on headshot than the mk IX vanguard light

image.png image.png
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that has 13.1 btw

spice veldt
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95 minimum cleave dmg on a light

viral solstice
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yeah heavy swords are incredibly good

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and note that those have always been

dire smelt
viral solstice
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how good those lights were

spice veldt
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people were always talking about how headtaker was what made them good

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but holy shit

viral solstice
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because im a swaglord

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(cool)

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devil claw or shovel

dire smelt
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dont forget the knife

viral solstice
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but yeah i was using heavy sword iag in week 1

dire smelt
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for the movetech

rocky cedar
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What blessings did your have active for those tables?

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For HS

viral solstice
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rampage headtaker

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for mark 4 rampage shred

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because thats as good as ur getting

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given that vicious slice only does impact

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and uhh?

rocky cedar
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Does Claw at least compete well with Shovel?

dire smelt
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i was also using heavy swords before buffs, moveset is just nice and the previously special was staggering everything

viral solstice
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special still staggers everything

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special actually better tbh

rocky cedar
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I know nothing about Vet shovel

dire smelt
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is it? i reckon that failing vs a rager

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mid combo

viral solstice
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like ill take a shorter electrocution on ragers for better carapace

dire smelt
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oh ok

viral solstice
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i havent had it fail yet

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like it still staggers them

fiery atlas
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devil's claw doesn't feel bad

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imo

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i prefer it over axes on zealot

dire smelt
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mk4 is very comfy to play

viral solstice
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it might be that ive got decent headtaker on my sword

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and if u dont have headtaker it doesnt consistently stagger

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but havent had that occur even once so

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but still interrupts maulers etc

rocky cedar
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My friend usually uses claw on Vet and they said Shovel felt pretty bad against hordes by comparison

dire smelt
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i mean i could reroll it for headtaker

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but ye

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previously it was working without

viral solstice
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shovel is worse vs hordes than devil claw

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because shovel has a hard damage target cap of 3

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that u cant find unless u look in the files

spice veldt
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huh both ogryn and vet shovels have that cap?

viral solstice
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yep

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also thunder hammer

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and some others i forget

dire smelt
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shovel is nice for space but

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idk

rocky cedar
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Blunt weapons is somewhat expected

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Shovel is in a weird place generally

feral verge
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I didn't know that about thammer

rocky cedar
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At least on Ogryn

viral solstice
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do u want to see something sad

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this is a relentless heavy attack with brutal momentum up with thrust and knife through butter (rip)

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3 enemies

dire smelt
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wait

spice veldt
dire smelt
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you mean ogryn shovel?

viral solstice
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yes vet too

dire smelt
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i meant vet one

viral solstice
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u see this

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dire smelt
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ye

viral solstice
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that 0

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is saying that from target 4

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it does 0

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because hard damage cap

dire smelt
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ye which is why im not sure on the tradeoff

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for better armour damage on light spam

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vs a devils claw

viral solstice
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oh im not saying its better than devils claw sorry just to clarify

rocky cedar
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It would be kind of ok if it didn't just generally have bad damage from first target as well

viral solstice
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shovel is a funny weapon

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i use it

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for uhh

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reasons

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good reasons

feral verge
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Loaded question maybe

viral solstice
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reasons of effectiveness

dire smelt
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ye i saw the quickswap memes

viral solstice
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but yeah shovel is objectively

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awful

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probably worse than devil claw yeah

dire smelt
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i think it is

feral verge
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What's the objectively worst melee on the game? And ranged?

viral solstice
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but it has some funny belssings

dire smelt
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when you factor how easily you can spam heavy1 block cancel on mk4

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or do the reverse i guess on the mk1? or 7 i forgot

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as long as you are not using the mk with double heavy swipes

viral solstice
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but actually i can check this

dire smelt
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because that is literally unplayable when there is armour

viral solstice
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ok u know what

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i unironically think the poxwalker clear

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for normal sized groups

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is about the same with shovel and dc

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bigger groups the heavy cleaving will make the diff

dire smelt
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idk, i just use the ignore mass on crit blessing

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on both vet and zealot

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with mk4

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which you cant on shovel

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so ymmv

viral solstice
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ignore hit mass does very little really

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because the cleave distribution is the problem

rocky cedar
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DS is pretty bad for Vet nowadays

viral solstice
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like its that 38 thats kinda boning u

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tho to be fair

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its still infinite damage in a big group

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well, lotta damage

dire smelt
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which is what i care about

rocky cedar
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It's still worth for Zealot with bloodletting and Ult recharge on crit

viral solstice
#

but then again

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this is a rashad

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are we putting "rashad tier horde clear"

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on a pedestal

rocky cedar
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With damage cleave that low the bleed actually does kinda help KEKW_ogryn

viral solstice
#

god u want to hear something sad

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almost the best eviscerator horde clear

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is taking the bleed on special kill

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and cleaving the bleed

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because the eviscerators cleave is so bad

rocky cedar
viral solstice
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thats the thunder hammer heavy

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viral solstice
#

and also probs because that axe has thrust and not a power blessing

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but u can imagine it was 40% higher and it would still be whatever

dire smelt
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it was apparent the moment you unlocked the weapon

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the rashad was terribad

viral solstice
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well ill have u know

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my rashad owns...

rocky cedar
viral solstice
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uhh

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well with eviscerator the push attakc has a 3 cap

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this is a common problem btw

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if u ever find urself using a push attack

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stop and ask urself

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"why am i using a push attack"

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then do something else

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this is a very good rule for darktide

dire smelt
#

dodge dance block cancel spam heavy1

viral solstice
#

one sec i need to pull out an evis because i havent touched that awful weapon in months

feral verge
#

What does dodge dance mean exactly

dire smelt
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dodge instead of getting hit to make space for yourself

viral solstice
#

i remember seeing people talking about how evis was a good anti-horde clear wepaon in the first month of darktide

dire smelt
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since heavy 1 has a longer windup

viral solstice
#

and only in retrospect is it as funny as it actually was

feral verge
#

Aight I already do that

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Was wondering if it was something really specific

viral solstice
#

btw have any of u ever used a heavy sword with headtaker

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and light spammed a horde

dire smelt
#

ye

viral solstice
#

so ur calibrated

dire smelt
#

on a mk6

viral solstice
#

ye i got a mk 6 with no rampage

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but idc i stay faithful

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the heavy sword of theseus

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dire smelt
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otherwise with a mk6 you have to move the camera to adjust the heavy arcs

viral solstice
#

well both heavies are strikedown and the second heavy is like a boutique horde clear option for educated gentlecrabbes

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when u have like 3-4 chonkier mobs

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its such a fun heavy to drag tho

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look at this shit

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a "strikedown" heavy btw

dire smelt
#

ye

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i used it a lot

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then i asked myself

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why bother when i can just mash heavy 2 and 3 on a mk9

viral solstice
#

i mean i would probs be light spamming on a mk 9 while afk but i dont believe in mark IX because its not naruto enough

feral verge
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Glad mouse dragging works

viral solstice
feral verge
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I've been doing it on instinct

viral solstice
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it really

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really does

dire smelt
#

idk if light spam on mk9 is the play tbh

feral verge
#

Too many hours in chivalry 1

viral solstice
#

for horde clear

dire smelt
#

from my experience it fairly similar

viral solstice
#

i think tahts what most ppl do

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while afk

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its the most degen

dire smelt
#

well

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most people afk spam lights

viral solstice
#

yeee

dire smelt
#

thats why the power maul was so well received

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and people called it better than the bully club

spice veldt
#

me spectating a psyker light-spamming a horde with the force sword (don't ask why I was spectating)

dire smelt
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idek what to do on a force sword tbh

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might be because i played like 10 games with it but

spice veldt
#

light -> heavy is the usual hordeclear combo

dire smelt
#

patterns def seem wack

viral solstice
#

oh god

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this is so ropey

spice veldt
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on a FS with slaughterer, I light->heavy->light to get slaughterer stacks up first

dire smelt
#

light>heavy does not translate always in the swipe though

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which is my issue

spice veldt
#

block/push-cancel the combo

dire smelt
#

at time it feels like i have to do light>light>heavy

spice veldt
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to reset back to the 1st light

dire smelt
#

oh ok that explains

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so just INFERIOR WEAPON

spice veldt
#

ye, for the force sword, blocking will reset to the 1st attack

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:(

viral solstice
#

i just do dis

clear hamlet
#

now this is a nice staff

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spice veldt
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I actually like the light->heavy combo of the force sword because the stagger from the push is insanely goated on slaughterer force swords

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1 bar cost pushes are nutty with 60% power

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and the block/push doesn't really lock you in for too long

dire smelt
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idk maybe im just not used to the timing, i would much rather play just about any other weapon than the force staff on psyker

viral solstice
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i just swap cancel it so theres no delay

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seamless loopagio

spice veldt
#

the servers keep on dropping my inputs

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so I lost my muscle memory for swap cancelling

viral solstice
#

god

spice veldt
#

because block-cancelling is more reliable and doesn't get dropped as much

viral solstice
#

it is depressing

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look at this

dire smelt
#

the push from FC does add peril?

viral solstice
#

look how hard im using brain here

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thats 20 poxwalkers

spice veldt
#

only the push-attack

dire smelt
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blew up few times because of that kek

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that explains

viral solstice
#

see

spice veldt
#

they revised the force sword's push to no longer consume peril but be at the same power level as the pushes of other melees now

viral solstice
#

gotta avoid them push attacks

dire smelt
#

true

viral solstice
#

they push u to the limit

dire smelt
#

im just gonna voidstrike everything

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instead

viral solstice
#

yeah i cant even figure out how u get acceptable horde clear on evis

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even if i put those 20 poxwalkers against a wall

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its just

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lol

dire smelt
#

the usual loop is heavy1>light2

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but again you have to make space for yourself

#

because

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surprise

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you dont cleave enough

forest coral
#

Bloodletter and savage sweep seems to be the way Thonking

viral solstice
#

ye but thats scuffed beyond human understanding

dire smelt
#

dont mind at my heavy sword cleave through everything there

forest coral
#

I unno, I find evisc horde clear sorta similar to fs

viral solstice
#

oh sure

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i mean fs isnt the horde clear superstar

forest coral
#

It’s not

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It can do ok

viral solstice
#

i just mean that people used to talk about evis as being an anti horde weapon

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in the same way they talk about devil claw

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and a bunch of other weapons

forest coral
#

Ooooh yeah

viral solstice
#

that are at best mediocre

forest coral
#

No they’re smoking crack

dire smelt
#

tbf people initially even called the thunder hammer an anti horde weapon

viral solstice
#

it is

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kill em 1 at a time

forest coral
#

Yes

viral solstice
#

u see this

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u think the rest of those groaners

forest coral
#

Crusher is also anti horde weapon

viral solstice
#

gonna come at u?

forest coral
#

Because noone is getting anything done

viral solstice
#

anyway something had a point somewhere but it got lost

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in conclusion

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weapons

forest coral
#

Yes

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Use what is fun MoffSosu

dire smelt
#

uh

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is ignore armour mass any better than ignore mass on crit/weakspot?

viral solstice
#

strictly worse

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iirc

dire smelt
#

so as i assumed

viral solstice
#

for obvious reasons

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ok how my blazing spirit force sword do vs 20 poxies

dire smelt
#

idk i still think a melee with ignore on crit/weak and a damage perk like rampage is more or less the more sensible choice

#

as to what weapon you wanna use its somewhat up to you as long as you account for its weakness with the ranged

viral solstice
#

would have beaten the devil claw but i put the poxies in a stupid position

forest coral
#

Crabbu can u test the blood letter thing with evisc and savage sweep

spice veldt
#

although ignore on crit (Devastating Strike) only works on the critical hit and ignore on weakspot kill (Brumo) has a duration

viral solstice
#

don have it

forest coral
#

Apparently what happens is: Special heavy -> hit dudes with bleed -> do anything else -> first dudes die -> next special and repeat

viral solstice
#

i have one orange evis

forest coral
#

Oh

viral solstice
#

i never used it

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used it like one game

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and i was like

#

this peepee the poopoo

dire smelt
spice veldt
#

:(

forest coral
#

It’s decent weapon, just misunderstood pepeHand

viral solstice
#

but

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is it tho

#

we ask the hard questions here

forest coral
#

Works good to me

dire smelt
#

it is overrated for sure

viral solstice
#

yes but does it actually eviscerate

dire smelt
viral solstice
#

have u ever seen a single viscera

forest coral
#

Yes

spice veldt
#

it's the closest to a 2h sword that we have

forest coral
#

exactly

viral solstice
#

how does this random mk V do vs 20 poxies

dire smelt
#

bad probably

viral solstice
#

i believe in him

forest coral
#

The heavy > light staggers

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Or if u got stamina, push attack> heavies and deviate between the two

#

It’s similar performance as fs cancel imo

viral solstice
#

ok no easy i just decap 2 at a time

#

now das precision

forest coral
#

heavy sword yes wobbo

feral verge
#

@viral solstice you knowledgeable on the differences between the dueling swords?

viral solstice
#

absolutely not

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i have used them purely for memes

dire smelt
#

5 is a well rounded i think? 2 is dog and the other one i forgot about

viral solstice
#

i refuse to sully them by forcing them to do work

feral verge
#

The light attacks are so similar on them all, but they differ

viral solstice
#

some weapons are not there to do hard labour

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they are there to look good

forest coral
#

5 is best for cleaving specials since all heavies

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Is downward strikes

spice veldt
#

and mk5 heavies have 2 cleave i believe

viral solstice
#

for example

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this duelling sword was assisting me in getting 120 damage soulblaze ticks on a crusher

#

good job barry

dire smelt
#

which make the mk5 barely usable

viral solstice
#

u did it

forest coral
#

Mkii has shank> downward strike on heavy

forest coral
#

That sword is literally goated

dire smelt
feral verge
#

I'm a Mk4 duelie stan

spice veldt
#

I otherwise despise the doodoo cleave of the duelling swords (and the fact that they have no power blessings)

dire smelt
#

is it though?

forest coral
#

For an all rounder, yes

dire smelt
forest coral
#

it can 2 shot most human elites on head strikes with heavies

#

3 tap muties with heavy hits on head

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With maniac perk

dire smelt
#

for an all rounder is it better than a puny knife with bleed perk?

forest coral
#

And it’s fast af

viral solstice
#

i mean this mk 5 does 500 carapace dps

#

das not bad

#

i seen worse

forest coral
#

Hmm knife would be better vs monstrosities

#

But considerably slower vs horde

feral verge
#

But it's knife, so

forest coral
#

Ye

dire smelt
#

ye but do you really use the knife vs a horde? rtsd

viral solstice
#

smh knife without the 97% dr (real build btw) from zealot

#

smh

#

truly s'ing my h rn

forest coral
#

And bleed knife on psyker isn’t really that good

viral solstice
#

there should be

#

a force duelling sword

#

100%

#

a fword

dire smelt
#

bleed is just to have the extra weakspot damage perk

viral solstice
#

ok this is my best mk IV

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#

i dont have an orange one

forest coral
#

Lacerate and mercy killer on knife is okayish

viral solstice
#

put him in coach

feral verge
#

It should have a staff lmb as it's special attack, like saltzpyre's rapier and pistol

viral solstice
#

juts use a laspistol

feral verge
#

Not as cool

viral solstice
#

ok so with mk IV

#

u literally just stab ppl

dire smelt
#

ye

feral verge
#

Yeah

viral solstice
#

but the carapace damage blows

feral verge
#

Love it

viral solstice
#

next

feral verge
#

I just bb big shit

viral solstice
#

gotta use uncanny for live ur best life

#

altho actually

#

the lights are kinda swishy

#

swooshy

feral verge
#

Yes

viral solstice
#

could upgrade one and do idk rampage uncanny

#

would be fun

feral verge
#

I have that

viral solstice
#

this is my best mk 2

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not sure i should upgrade it

#

power level already perfect

dire smelt
#

the joy of filling the peril meter 3 times just to take down 2 ogryns uh

feral verge
#

Afaik you need to do a push attack to activate rampage

spice veldt
#

against any enemies that aren't groaners yup

viral solstice
#

wait

forest coral
#

Non kinetic barrage things

viral solstice
#

WAIT A SECOND

#

THIS SWORD DOESNT HAVE THRUST DOES IT

#

ITS LITERALLY

#

A THRUSTING WEAPON

spice veldt
#

:)

viral solstice
#

GIVE IT THRUST

forest coral
#

Smiley face

feral verge
forest coral
#

I haven’t used inner tranquility for a long time on force sword builds

viral solstice
#

they buffed warp unleashed if u use inner tranquility in 2023 ur literally throwing my damnation games and i WILL votekick u and add u to my list

#

kid...

spice veldt
#

I have never used inner tranquility past my hundred hours with psyker

#

since I realized that I was probably going to main the force sword until they release the 2h force sword

feral verge
#

I like my staff spam

forest coral
#

No more spam

dire smelt
#

yer a wizard

feral verge
#

I like my bb spam

forest coral
#

Use bolter and steal all the ammo uwu

#

Speaking of which

viral solstice
#

ive literally never equipped inner tranquility

feral verge
#

I'm Mankar camoran

forest coral
#

Why psyker no bolter

viral solstice
#

and when i say never

forest coral
#

I’m still sad

viral solstice
#

i mean literally never

#

it stops u exploding

#

why the fuck would u use it

spice veldt
#

have you seen our twindly arms

dire smelt
#

is the pinned commando psyker build already obsolete then?

feral verge
#

Ofc i'm a wizard

forest coral
viral solstice
#

my psyker's devil claw

image.png
forest coral
#

8 packs on brains

viral solstice
#

is actually a thing of beauty

#

perfect dump stat

spice veldt
#

whew

viral solstice
#

locked vicious slice (does nothing)

forest coral
viral solstice
#

what more could u ask for

spice veldt
#

idk

#

hammerblow

#

smh

viral solstice
#

this is the real badboi tho

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dire smelt
#

48 damage VelWat

forest coral
#

How often do u actually crit on fs tho

feral verge
#

Nice sword

viral solstice
#

10% of the time

forest coral
#

I want firesword memes too crab

viral solstice
#

thats why i have 5% crit on it

#

to double how often i set ppl on fire

forest coral
#

Pain

viral solstice
#

common sense

#

that sword one shots a crusher when i crit ill have u know

feral verge
#

Will you replace unstable with bloodthirsty when you get it

forest coral
#

Does burn ticks count as one shot tho

viral solstice
#

i will but i will feel bad about it

forest coral
viral solstice
#

obviously so i only shot them once

#

it one shots realers too

#

reaperz

#

reapongles

forest coral
#

Dongles

spice veldt
#

technically u zero shot them

forest coral
#

yes

viral solstice
#

das tru

forest coral
#

Crush with mind

#

And gang signs

clear hamlet
#

Do I take this for brutal momentum considering contracts roll tomorrow

2023-03-12_18_06_58-Warhammer_40000__Darktide.png
viral solstice
#

i was experimenting

viral solstice
#

i would take it for ls4

#

limbsplitter is a chad blessing

#

but its a double IV so valuetown really

#

u get a CHOICE

forest coral
#

Anyway, time to fly

#

Thanks for random info tiny crabbu

viral solstice
#

i couldnt sleep

dire smelt
viral solstice
#

so u get my insomnia

spice veldt
#

woo

viral solstice
#

i still cant sleep

#

its now 9am and sun is up

#

looks like im drinking some preworkout

feral verge
#

I am insomnia too

viral solstice
#

and teaching a seminar about hierarchical reinforcement learning

clear hamlet
viral solstice
#

while fucked in the head

viral solstice
#

limbsplitter is good for very specific weapons if u are interested in doing very specific weapon cancel memes

#

for most ppl

#

i thonk is not cool

#

i just like the idea cos it funny

#

i was testing

#

and if u dodge slide

#

instead of just dodging

#

this is reasonably consistent to do

#

i had my eyes closed

#

but u have to do it earlier than u think which is weird

#

mebbe something about how the sound is in stereo

#

wait i have it

image.png
#

the actual limbsplitter 4 axe

#

wtf

#

i had no idea

spice veldt
#

and on an achlys

viral solstice
#

well in theory thats the meme right

#

i guess u would need bm on it which feels fucked up somehow

#

lets see paul allens cleave distribution

clear hamlet
viral solstice
#

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

spice veldt
#

is that the heavy

viral solstice
#

YES

#

THE SIDEWAYS ONE

spice veldt
#

HAHAHAHA

clear hamlet
feral verge
#

Sad

spice veldt
#

how is this worse than an antax light

viral solstice
#

do what brings u brane points

feral verge
#

What's a virgin blessing to you, crabbo

clear hamlet
#

the laspistol I rolled gave me galaxy brain

viral solstice
#

tbh

#

virgins are also chads in their own way