#psyker-class

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sinful bramble
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At long last

feral verge
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yeah it finally happened

spice veldt
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where's my peril glock

sinful bramble
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They fixed darktide wowwe

feral verge
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psyker is so good now actually, playing any other class is considered throwing

dense panther
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how did it change now?

feral verge
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even in sedition low intensity

olive ember
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make sure you run kinetic barrage, kill the first target, use your ability, kill the next 4. Doing it in the meat grinder took me about 8 seconds, so you have 4 seconds of leeway basically in an actual game

urban wedge
olive ember
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oh

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well yeah

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just press F

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once you revive press F

spice veldt
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or bring trauma staff ๐Ÿ˜Ž

steel flame
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F button fixes horde revive issues 9 times out of 10

feral verge
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between that, and the forcesword push you can walk thru hordes with minimal issue

spice veldt
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force sword push with max slaughterer stacks

feral verge
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I FOUND HIM

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john darktide

cyan notch
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john darktide

steel flame
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John Dorktide

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Poggers

vast rover
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Haven't used Voidstrike much...do I finish consecrating this? Backscroll suggests blast radius is a dump stat. ๐Ÿค” Not sure what other blessing I should be praying for.

feral verge
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Warp flurry and transfer peril are the best in slot blessings

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Unarmored and flak are the best in slot perks

viral solstice
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for that if ur a chad

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put warp nexus 4

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and hope they fix it soon

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so u get more crit from it

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and hope they buff blazing spirit too

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otherwise u could ye do what u want

feral verge
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I consider warp resistance to be the dump stat because it's unnecessary with transfer peril

viral solstice
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if ur a double chad

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u pray for surge as ur last blessing

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and go blazing spirit surge with a crit perk

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some might describe this as "Too powerful" tho

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so be aware

rain saddle
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crit is good on every staff no?

vast rover
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Awesome, thank you both!

feral verge
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No

viral solstice
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crit not great for void strike unfortunately

feral verge
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Crit DMG/chance sucks on every staff except surge

tough trail
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omg i finally got a force staff that isnt underpowered in my shop

viral solstice
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doesnt do much extra damage and the staff version of blazing spirit caps at 6 stacks

leaden thunder
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chance is p good on purge

tough trail
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level 20 and using a staff for the first time

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what a lovely game

viral solstice
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the emprah has blessed u

feral verge
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@vast rover you want something like this

tough trail
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i love being forced out of the only class specific weapons this game has to offer

cyan notch
tough trail
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woohoo

feral verge
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warp flurry is the most important blessing imo, as it really turns the voidstrike into an autocannon

leaden thunder
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idk both are pretty important

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warpflurry makes it faster and transfer peril makes it so you can shoot it forever

rain saddle
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anyone have 68% bcr yet?

tough trail
viral solstice
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it does kinda suck that charge speed is crap at low level

tough trail
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kill me

viral solstice
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whereas guns shoot at normal speed always

feral verge
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yes but i'd take warp flurry iv over transfer peril iv any day

viral solstice
spice veldt
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trauma staff in shambles

feral verge
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if i were forced to choose

vast rover
feral verge
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good luck

tough trail
feral verge
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here's hoping you get it on that staff

tough trail
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i mean im guessing thats all you really get

viral solstice
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yeah

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brunt just sells greys

tough trail
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ehhhh i guess its cool

viral solstice
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so u gotta be ready to spend the mats to roll it up

tough trail
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i mean im not 30 yet

viral solstice
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yeah

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its much more of a thing at 30

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but if u wanna test the base type ees nice

feral verge
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its not worth upgrading shit until level 30

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it's a waste to upgrade below level 30

tough trail
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i know and i agree

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thats what im saying

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ill just use purgatus

cyan notch
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yea u dont need to upgrade i just used greys from brunt all the way

feral verge
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that's what i did on my zealot i levelled recently

rain saddle
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every day i check daily shop and am sad

feral verge
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yea its shit

near gale
cold geode
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so what staff should i run tonight?

feral verge
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trauma

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trauma time

rain saddle
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trauma still is my fav

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it just is fun

feral verge
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trauma fucks

tough trail
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what does trauma do

rain saddle
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explodes

feral verge
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i love warp flurry on it

cyan notch
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boom

leaden thunder
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explosions

feral verge
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trauma makes a big explosion on the floor

rain saddle
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but so do you if you cast it too often

clear hamlet
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trauma make floor go boom

cold geode
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trauma?

tough trail
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all of them are kinda equal in meta right? i mean i think voidstrike is a little better than the others

feral verge
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voidstrike sends an explosion out from the staff in a ball. its like bowling

leaden thunder
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purgatus is probably the technical best

feral verge
spice veldt
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they're all fine, but purgatus stands above the rest in a significant way

cold geode
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ok

rain saddle
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flame build bad for getting me pennance

feral verge
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let's share trauma

leaden thunder
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purgatus gets better as you go up in difficulty

viral solstice
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i mean i havent had a purg user do even half my damage on hi5 with voidstrike

feral verge
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this is my trauma

viral solstice
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purg is better raw horde clear

leaden thunder
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crab you are a god gamer tho

viral solstice
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but u give up so much range and flexibility

feral verge
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anyone else have traumatic experience

rain saddle
lethal flax
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hey do the special event dogs not count as elites for the explosion penance? i know they count towards them for veteran elite ammo procs

viral solstice
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ok i accept this

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yeeeees

spice veldt
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range sucks but I find melee patrols to be the most dangerous since they will aggressively push you

viral solstice
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not saying purg is bad

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and definitely for its purpose

spice veldt
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ye

viral solstice
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its obviously way better

feral verge
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1, to troll people, 2 because i like it

leaden thunder
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poptart staff

cyan notch
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dont need range when horde pulls all the ambients to you every 2mins

spice veldt
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very delicious

cyan notch
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just burn everything

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shooters? ab boom all dead

leaden thunder
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when blazing spirit buff

spice veldt
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go even further and just use melee

leaden thunder
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so I can use AB on all staves

viral solstice
cold geode
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staff special attack

spice veldt
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surge :)

cold geode
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all match

feral verge
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plus if a zealot brings a flamer (which most do) you are kinda outmoded wit the purga

viral solstice
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outmoded

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i love it

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they just look at u like

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damn u still wearing last seasons collection

leaden thunder
viral solstice
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smh ur couture lookin not haute rn

spice veldt
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smh calling the flamer a purga

feral verge
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thanks crabo

cyan notch
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still good to double up on flamers for mid/end events

rain saddle
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my shit stick

spice veldt
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oh wait it has purgation in its name

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fuck

cyan notch
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the flamer zealot sure as hell aint handling all the endless hordes

viral solstice
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i had a ham and cheese sandwich and i put chili jam and mayo in it

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it was good

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i hope this information is of use to u all

leaden thunder
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I made a porkchop sandwich with apple butter

viral solstice
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oo dat sound good also

cold geode
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i had a gyro

viral solstice
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btw

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for the latest frontiers of voidstrike techmology

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the consistent bog one shot

feral verge
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should i run this for the first time in weeks

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i bet if i bring it there will be a zealot with flamer

leaden thunder
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100%

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it is written

cold geode
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it is known

leaden thunder
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yesterday I played a game with 2 flamer zealots and 1 purge psyker

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I was on my vet

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with my vraks

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actually went

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really well

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whatthefuck_heresy I top damaged

viral solstice
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and that bog strat doesnt just work in meatgrinder now i know da secret ive been makin it happen all day

spice veldt
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no its just a bug ur not making it happen

viral solstice
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i knew this day would come

leaden thunder
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nah he is doing it with his mind

viral solstice
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my enemies would find me here

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also if ur bored hitting the flak section of a reaper with force sword special is always more damage than a headshot so idk mebbe thats of use to somebody

spice veldt
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i used to do that on reapers

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but it was so god damn unreliable

viral solstice
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u want to know the secret

spice veldt
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the only reliable way is basically just doing the 3rd light on their chest/shoulders

viral solstice
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theres a reliable way

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all i will say is

spice veldt
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tell me

viral solstice
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use reverse rashad

spice veldt
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...

viral solstice
spice veldt
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oh

ornate sand
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Hey, Siblings. I was trying to get "Going out with a Bang", and I did a Heresy mission with the new dog swarms. I exploded, taking out 5+ dogs, but didn't get the penance. Do the swarm dogs not count as elites?

spice veldt
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hmm

leaden thunder
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Sitgryn well that sucks if they don't

spice veldt
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dafuq?

viral solstice
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by the emprah

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u should have got the penance anyway for exploding exploding is ALWAYS the right thing to do

lethal folio
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Elites specials

feral verge
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game saw my god purga and got mad

viral solstice
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those dogs should count as elites

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think about it

feral verge
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i was in a game with 2 zealots who had flamers too

viral solstice
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theyre highly trained operatives

spice veldt
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whew; aiming my crosshair at the reapers feet to hit their flak armour

ornate sand
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So, the dogs should have worked to get the Going Out With a Bang penance?

viral solstice
spice veldt
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is this a rare instance where "elites" actually refers to elites and not both elites and specials

long wharf
viral solstice
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the other option is just aim along their back

viral solstice
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because of their training

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highly trained bogs

ornate sand
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What's the distinction between elites and specials?

viral solstice
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specials are stuff like trappers, snipers, flamers, bombers

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the dudes the ai spawns to fuck with u

feral verge
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well, the elites are elite, and the specials are special

viral solstice
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elites are the lads u just find hanging out in the map

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ragers, crushers etc

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thats the easiest intuition

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i dont think ive done any of the psyker penances other than uhh

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actually i did pick n mix but tha twas by accident

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and the shove ppl off the map one

spice veldt
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the only penance that I had to go out of my way to do was the cliffhanger one

ornate sand
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The Psyker penances are pretty awful, as far as I can tell.

viral solstice
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the secret to trauility of mind

spice veldt
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but I haven't done the malleus monstronum one or the explode one

viral solstice
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ignore all penances

proven raven
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going out with a bang is, by far, the worst offender imo

steel flame
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Nah

viral solstice
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u need to suicide for ur own reasons

ornate sand
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Malleus Monstronum seems only worth pursuing if you have an entire team of pals who would just ignore a boss.

viral solstice
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not for a reward

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otherwise its inauthentic

steel flame
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Pick and mix is worse. Mostly because I refuse tell my teammates to stop killing stuff

spice veldt
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kill them faster than ur teammates kill; ez

ornate sand
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Yeah, I'm sitting at 4/5.

spice veldt
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most my of teammates were on one side of the map section, so I had the elites to myself to pop

ornate sand
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What's with all other players and their fixation on killing enemies that are clearly getting brainbursted? It's like they get off on killing those, in particular.

spice veldt
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just get lucky with poorly positioned teammates

steel flame
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I'm gonna do a dog mission at some point and I'll just ask my team to keep shit off me for a sec and I'll be able to get pick. I'm lazy though

spice veldt
lunar hollow
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theres a trauma staff with t4 rending shockwave

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that i cannot afford

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seething

viral solstice
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also das factual data right there

lunar hollow
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i hate you melk

viral solstice
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i see superiority

spice veldt
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rising above the commoners

near wyvern
sonic coral
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must be saturday night, damnation is full of people who have no clue what they're doing

viral solstice
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do any digs die to mind bullet

spice veldt
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no its a saturday evening

viral solstice
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bogs

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also earlier there was some discussion of dodges and i did discover even this dodge works vs crusher slam

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style points

spice veldt
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that crusher is a paid actor

viral solstice
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if u wiggle fast enough u do a little dance on his mace

tough trail
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the purgatus is so sick

viral solstice
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ok thats the wiggly one

spice veldt
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wiggling is inferior to spinning around at 10000 RPM

tough trail
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but now theres so many things to remember when fighting

Left Click: Quick Burst
Right Click + Left Click: Charged Spray
Brain Burst Right Click: Charge
Brain Burst Left Click: Locking Charge
Oh yeah and i need to remember to prioritize quelling on the purgatus because it quells faster

viral solstice
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fun

spice veldt
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and doing an LMB after holding RMB with brain burst will immediately stagger the locked-on enemy (if they can be staggered by BB)

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not very useful but I'm sure there's a weird situation where you need to stagger a gunner that's pelting your zealot from 1000m away

tough trail
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i didnt even know that

viral solstice
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also after getting frustrated with how much i was getting hit by mutants i tested it and my conclusion is that ive never made a mistake in my life and its all ping*

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*i may be coping out of my mind

wet jacinth
spice veldt
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god damn warp resistance

dense ivy
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Same reason why you can't dodge dogs with anything approaching reliably

viral solstice
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agreed i blame the servers

dense ivy
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If you don't pre dodge and pre push/attack you're almost guaranteed to get hit

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If you try while it's already leaping the interpolation will have the dog pounce you

wet jacinth
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they can't pound your ass if you kill them

viral solstice
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dogs i never do anything other than voidstrike or melee near a corner or box them

wet jacinth
dense ivy
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Even if you get a hitmarker on their head on your screen

viral solstice
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just not worth risking it

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theyre too shonky

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box still primo tho

spice veldt
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it's pretty reliable to special them with the force sword

wet jacinth
spice veldt
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crab is talking about an even more powerful box

wet jacinth
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box box?

spice veldt
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a box that doesn't even require you to throw it

pine hearth
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guessing transfer peril dosent work on trauma?

long wharf
viral solstice
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this box

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the box of power

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(well, every box really)

spice veldt
wide tiger
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tempting

viral solstice
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do it for da NEXUS

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the fix is surely coming

wide tiger
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I gotta check, but i think i have t4 nexus on purg

viral solstice
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get t8

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dont let them stop u

wide tiger
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t8, where the last 4 charges trigger at 101%+

viral solstice
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i would die to reach it

wide tiger
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I lied i think it is an upgrade from my current one

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then i guess I keep flak

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and put crit on it

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Flak on unarmoured for purg? Choose my adventure

lunar hollow
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crying rn

viral solstice
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flak because u gotta booly people

lunar hollow
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such a good weapon fucking bricked

spice veldt
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PRECOG WOOOOOOO

viral solstice
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i mean

spice veldt
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exorcist is not too bad i suppose

viral solstice
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roll that block efficiency into uhhh

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crit damage

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keep precog

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go... uncanny

lunar hollow
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rather hang myself

viral solstice
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yeeees

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precog uncanny crit weakspot sword

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show them the future

lunar hollow
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ive got like 20 force swords im slowly upgrading

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i feel like this is pointless considering how many fucking blessings can be on this weapon

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never going to get any ones i want

viral solstice
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i mean

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im like 50 voidstrikes deep

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ive got one (1) t4 blessing and it was from a gift

wide tiger
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yeah been there

lunar hollow
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i cant look at the voidstrike anymore

viral solstice
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u cant give up

lunar hollow
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i got roped into doing a high int damnation with it

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made me want to kermit sewerslide

viral solstice
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the hottest fires are forged in the biggest wastes of plasteel

wide tiger
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my force sword adventures have cost me upwards of 100k plasteel

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all for one tier 4 shred that i got from the emp

viral solstice
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i bullied a hi int with my voidstrike earlier it was very funi shot many blobs

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i was quite close to as much overkill as actual damage

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but i failed

lethal folio
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I can't enjoy voidstrike for some reason.

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It is missing something.

viral solstice
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i like it because its a projectile that gets headshots

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and this game only has one other headshot projectile

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really

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thats pretty much why i like it

lethal folio
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Maybe because it is Bolt-Staff lite.

viral solstice
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tbf

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its strength

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which is that its just like... always getting medium valuie

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never needs to quell

lethal folio
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It is a sad child of fireball and bolt.

viral solstice
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ok damage vs everything

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effective at all ranges

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means that when ur using it

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u feel kinda like

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theres never this moment where ur like DAMN I JUST VOIDSTRUK THOSE KIDS

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except when its the specific hallway lineup scenario

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but it does a shitload of damage

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its just... spread out

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whereas with purg or truma or whatever u get to be like

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ok im going to do the staff thing my staff does

spice veldt
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i want to dumpster a poxwalker and get 10x overkill damage than my actual damage

viral solstice
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so ive actually been deliberately full charging the shots

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in order to get more overkill damage

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i really think i can get 50:50

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with enough groaners

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but yea i can endorse voidstrike but i also strongly suspect it will get buffed

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because that kind of consistent value weapon just isnt something people are gonna go for

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(also i think its cc is underestimated but i can see that being something people don't think is too important)

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actually tyr have u seen the poxhound voidstrike kill method

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that shit legit makes me happy

echo turtle
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Iโ€™m gonna run some T5s

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any nerds in here wanna form a strike team?

wide tiger
viral solstice
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well if ur using surge (the best voidstrike) u never need to quell because just one shot and everything in the map dies

wide tiger
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I enjoy the nexus surge more even if it is less efficient

coarse dagger
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what is the max toughness bonus on relics?

echo turtle
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17

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and 5 for perks

coarse dagger
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thank you sibling

echo turtle
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๐Ÿ˜Œ

coarse dagger
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ah yes i do enjoy perks like this. thanks hadron

feral verge
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damn

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thats a carry curio

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so jealous

coarse dagger
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lol

feral verge
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you could clutch any game with that

coarse dagger
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this has chaos fuckery written all over it

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another curio wasted

echo turtle
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Hadron has been trolling me all week

viral solstice
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i put 9stam curios on my zealot

echo turtle
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I have upgraded to gold like, 10 force swords

viral solstice
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and then accidentally queued the next morning

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never been so staminad

coarse dagger
feral verge
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i have so many failed HP curios

echo turtle
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none of the level 4 blessings I want ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

pine hearth
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good trauma staff?

viral solstice
feral verge
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but i have a few good ones

feral verge
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i have 260hp. all hp curios

coarse dagger
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after a while you just want hadron to servitor you. with the blessing lottery. i could really do without it

coarse dagger
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another gift.....

feral verge
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YOPOO

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PRECOG

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IF ONLY I COULD BE SO LUCKY

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fuck

viral solstice
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u laugh but when they buff precog

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the precog illuminati gonna be

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:sonks

coarse dagger
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75% + max hp counting all my relics together

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tho i wanna change one for + max toughness

lunar hollow
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isnt precog functionally useless

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due to how little crit and weak spot damage modifiers give

cold geode
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the pre-cognitae

coarse dagger
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i really wish i had some tier 4 blessings.

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rate my shitty sword

viral solstice
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nothing shitty about that

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solid 6/9

coarse dagger
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nice

viral solstice
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i think special heavying a head

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should give u 3 stacks of executor

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and u will get 16% power from unstable power at 100% which is v easy to hit with a force sword

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so not a bad power setup for killing big singles

coarse dagger
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yeah running purg staff i mostly use sword on heavys and specials

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just bonk them in the head

viral solstice
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give em da bonkus

coarse dagger
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tho im not sure about the blessings on purg

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i dont even know what i really want on it anyway

feral verge
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those are best ion slot

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warp lfurry may be borke idk

coarse dagger
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im just glad i was able to get rid of run and gun

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pre patch i lost my mind

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3 staffs all getting run and gun as blessing

rocky cedar
wide tiger
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YEAH

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they must think that extra weak spot and crit damage is OP

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I have a feeling they dont know how it works

coarse dagger
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i mean it does feel like the game and its mechanics and inner workings is as mysterious to them as it is to us

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cult mechanicus style they just pray the bugs away

wide tiger
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Well we go and test it and realize how bad it is, and i guess they just think it works really well

rocky cedar
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I only just realised shred stacks per enemy cleaved

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Thanks to blessing buff mod

wide tiger
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yeah same

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makes it way better

rocky cedar
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Imagine how much wonky blessing stuff we could have easily worked out if buff UI had been present in the game from the start

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I'm assuming decimator works the same way

feral verge
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mmm 11k plasteel

ember hornet
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Hey my first melk force sword has deflector, nice

viral solstice
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deflector is useless, it doesnt even set things on fire

steel flame
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Fair

viral solstice
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im s orry lazorr

steel flame
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We need to remove all weapons that do not things on fire

cyan notch
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im pretty sure this is the max and its only on silo cluster so far

viral solstice
cyan notch
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the 805 is a lie

viral solstice
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imagine if deflector did 1 damage on block

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so if it crit

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u would set them on fire

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now were talking

ember hornet
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I also have a surge staff in my shop with T4 warp nexus ๐Ÿค”

rocky cedar
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Imagine being able to set things on fire with push attack pogryn

cyan notch
viral solstice
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im not saying that in writing

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u ppl arent catching me again

ember hornet
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so warp resist doesn't matter that much on force sword right if I'm gonna use it at 80+ anyways?

cyan notch
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that doesnt even make sense if you block a bullet where does the fire go

feral verge
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very easy

ember hornet
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yeah that's what I was thinking

steel flame
cyan notch
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53 warp res is fine

viral solstice
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it doesnt kill u

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if u activate at 99%

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its completely safe

ember hornet
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right

echo turtle
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Just got that buff mod

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man so nice'

ember hornet
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buff mod is goated

cyan notch
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stacks with peril resist too so u get less peril with stacks

ember hornet
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as if I'm not running purely extra damage

feral verge
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i tried wrack and ruin for the first time, when running my purga for the first time in weeks

ember hornet
#

void with transfer peril

feral verge
#

didnt like wrack and ruin all that much

#

i just wished that i had tranquility on instead

cyan notch
#

its a decent choice if ur using gun

viral solstice
#

gnu

cyan notch
#

by decent i mean probably the best

steel flame
#

Yeah the special can crit

rocky cedar
#

Does the push get the bonus laspistol crit?

steel flame
#

Haven't got a clue. Maybe. Probably

rocky cedar
#

Damn might have to play around with that

steel flame
#

I not sure it's something worth banking on XP

rocky cedar
#

For sure but sounds like goofy fun to play around with

viral solstice
#

dont think it does#

#

just did it like 30 times and no fire

rocky cedar
#

Breaking my balls here crab

viral solstice
#

well no crits either

#

so unsure wass goin on

#

might be i need bigger short

long wharf
#

the push isn't technically an attack

#

it doesn't "hit"

#

just like the ult

ember hornet
#

unstable effect melee only?

viral solstice
#

weapon has to be out

#

but its power

#

so everything active whilr ur holdin

ember hornet
#

I have deflector + unstable lol

cyan notch
#

pretty good with warp unleashed

ember hornet
#

yeah thats what I am running

cyan notch
#

slap on + maniac and u can 1 shot muties to with special heavy bodyshot i think

ember hornet
#

beautiful

viral solstice
#

give it some short's

ember hornet
#

I feel slightly bad for all of the people that actually play psyker and waited forever

#

but just get lucky geez

cyan notch
#

its been fairly easy to get with brunts now

#

and low tiers of deflector are still good

long wharf
#

deflector is overrated

#

even more so now that it doesn't work when reviving teammates

cyan notch
#

i think its appropriately rated nowadays

#

good utility if you arent using fs as your main horde clear weapon

#

there are some sneaky things you can with it like blocking bullets for the interrogator guy standing in the open like in commsplex mid event for example or blocking bullets for other teammates ressing

gilded quail
feral verge
#

ppl forget that dmg isnt everything

long wharf
#

hardly

forest coral
#

Blocking shotgunners is nicest thing out of it, or chip damage from sporadic shots

long wharf
#

not only do I dislike the fsword moveset, people go ga-ga over the ability to block ranged attacks

viral solstice
#

all u need to ignore shotgunners is a wall

cyan notch
#

this is the stupid problem with shotgunners

#

no melee mode for dreg idiots

#

just spam you all the way

viral solstice
#

i mean he tried melee

#

but the wall was too powerful...

cyan notch
#

yea after like 17 mins

long wharf
#

the real question is - why doesn't it have to reload?

viral solstice
#

shotgun has 11 shots

long wharf
#

what heretical tech is he using that the shotgun never needs reloading

viral solstice
#

like the lawbringers

long wharf
#

why can't our shotgun hold 11 shots?

viral solstice
#

good for him he packed an extra long tube

#

it does

#

80 ammo on shotgun is 11 in da mag

cyan notch
#

their melee mode is just hitting you with shotgun

long wharf
#

oh? I never use it

viral solstice
cyan notch
#

the scab guys at least have to stow their shotty

long wharf
#

it doesn't make tactical sense for a shotgunner to try to melee you

#

that shotgun is hands down the deadliest weapon in close range

viral solstice
#

i mean its much more likely that the dreg shotgunners werent issued tactical shovels

#

so they simply looked at their renegade brethren and were like

#

fuk we cant measure up to that

fiery atlas
cyan notch
#

also fs doesnt have too many great perks its not like ur missing out some god pick by taking deflector

#

most people just slap slaughterer and boom ez other blessing is up to you

feral verge
#

yeah

#

it already does breakpoint

spice veldt
#

or be very skilled and get a bloodthirsty

viral solstice
#

i mean u need fire

#

u need bloodthirsty

#

u need unstable power

#

so thats 3 blessings already (hard)

#

so ur at -1

#

no space for deflector

cyan notch
#

fire (mid) bloodthirsty (mid) -2

viral solstice
#

im sorry but bloodthirsty fire is literally the definition of important and good

cyan notch
#

idk i looked up the dictionary didnt find it there

spice veldt
#

coping and seething at seeing bloodthirsty get called mid

#

u even share a namesake with bloodthirsty

#

how could u do this to it

cyan notch
#

compared to slaughterer for killing shit its pretty mid after using it tbh

spice veldt
#

on its own, it's pretty meh compared to slaughterer

cyan notch
#

but i still use it cuz it does cool swipe sounds

spice veldt
#

but when combined with slaughterer

#

that's where the fun starts

viral solstice
#

than cool swipe sounds

spice veldt
#

one-shotting maulers with a light-special bodyshot immediately after single special kill

viral solstice
#

???

spice veldt
#

one-shotting dreg ragers with a light-special headshot after a single special kill (with +maniac)

viral solstice
#

answer me that with ur western science

spice veldt
#

big stonks

viral solstice
forest coral
#

Smol stonk

spice veldt
#

you're a smol stonk

viral solstice
#

its in order

#

stank (smallest) all the way to stunk (biggest stonk)

cyan notch
#

cant 1 shot crusher though

#

or can u

viral solstice
#

easily

spice veldt
#

not without +carapace

#

:(

viral solstice
#

and i can one shot reaper

spice veldt
#

you probably could with max t4 slaughterer stacks and a crit without needing +Carapace

viral solstice
#

some call this the most viablest and goodest

spice veldt
#

I'm only 375 damage short from one-shotting a crusher at 4 warp stacks, max t3 slaughterer stacks, a crit, and without Warp Unleashed chosen

viral solstice
#

no buffs

#

that u cant see

#

im just a very high skill Gamer

cyan notch
#

cheating then

viral solstice
cyan notch
#

unfortunate ur account is getting banned

viral solstice
#

u cant ban me ur ban will just bounce off my carapace

pine hearth
#

But I have rending and 25% carapace

cyan notch
#

in a bastion 20 whatever combat stance

pine hearth
#

traxis 69

feral verge
#

bastion 2-20 combat stance

#

everyone knows that

pine hearth
#

slaneesh worshipers spotted

feral verge
#

how could oyu not

#

can someone bane this guy

#

ban*

cyan notch
#

vets be like i shift my center of gravity lower and suddenly i have wallhacks and +500% damage

pine hearth
#

eh zealots get super armor pen by running fast

feral verge
#

hmmmmmmm

#

i told myself no crafting but

#

the only good staff im missing is surge

#

like i have a good void, trauma and purga

#

but have never upgraded a surge

pine hearth
#

no reason too

feral verge
#

im sitting on 12k plasteel

pine hearth
#

can take a grey an it will be almost as effective

feral verge
#

yeah i like surge the least

#

and yee ik

cyan notch
#

surge is the best grey

#

works with 0 stats

viral solstice
#

yeah its great u can be like a light special spamming crusher user only less effective with any rarity of the staff

#

incredibile

pine hearth
#

Ive recently fallen in love with trauma staff

feral verge
#

yeah i love trauma

pine hearth
#

were getting married next week

spice veldt
#

the trauma propaganda is working

feral verge
#

with warp flurry on it fucks. hard

pine hearth
#

I have flurry and redning on mine

#

rending*

feral verge
#

like a devastating drum beat

cyan notch
#

i find myself reaching 100% before i get 5 flurry stacks

feral verge
#

mine

#

the only thing wrong with it is unyielding

#

but its not so bad

#

wish it was flak

spice veldt
#

my warp res stat isn't good enough, so I need warp flurry to get 4 full charges off from 0%

pine hearth
#

wish transfer peril worked on trauma

cyan notch
#

how is it gonna work though

pine hearth
#

start the blast at the top

#

instead of from the floor

spice veldt
#

orbital strike from space

viral solstice
#

u can just left click stack ur warp flurry on trauma no

#

for the warp resist impaired

spice veldt
#

i'm not warp resist impaired i'm a quietude user

feral verge
#

i've never used quietitude

spice veldt
#

why don't you be quietude then

#

i like quietude cuz its pretty comfy to me

feral verge
#

you're spelling it wrong

spice veldt
#

what do you usually use

#

ur a wrong

steel flame
#

does anyone know if bleed has a max number of stacks?

viral solstice
#

yes

feral verge
#

i usually use warp absorption

viral solstice
#

its like 16

steel flame
#

also do some enemies have a resistance to bleed

viral solstice
#

and its nto very much damage

feral verge
#

i may give quietitude a try

viral solstice
#

basically its not so much that enemies have bleed res

#

as much as bleed does basically zero damage baseline

pine hearth
#

no they just take reduced damage from bleed

viral solstice
#

and unyieliding has 4x bleed vulnerability

#

bleed is basically useless

#

it is what it is

steel flame
#

i can get it doing 176 per tick on most stuff, like reapers and ragers

viral solstice
#

ye the problem is everything it doesnt have a 4x multi on

steel flame
#

but crusher only gets 22 per tick

viral solstice
#

because the base damage of bleed is terrible

#

and the problem is that even with rending

#

because rending only gets u up to 1x

#

u cant close that gap

steel flame
#

i dunno it doesnt seem all that terrible

feral verge
#

i will give quietitude a try

steel flame
#

its more than i can get with 15 stacks of soulblaze

viral solstice
#

compare 8 stacks of bleed on poxwalkers

#

i mean its really not

#

12 stacks of soulblaze on a reaper does more than 16 stacks of bleed

#

which is weird when u think about it

pine hearth
#

eh, soulblaze you can get from the comfort of not near a crusher

viral solstice
#

and 6 stacks of soulblaze will kill a poxwalker

#

8 stacks of bleed will do about 72 damage

#

to a poxwalker

spice veldt
#

i like quietude cuz you're often not in situations where you can kill enough enemies to make up the difference

#

generate peril in cover and use that for free stonks

steel flame
#

i got this fun knife today

#

all the bleed

viral solstice
#

however the thing with bleed i think is to grab an autopistol

#

go blaze away pinning fire

#

and just hose a crowd down and toss some nades

#

that would get u some good numbers

cyan notch
#

bleed falls off FAST

steel flame
#

this is on psyker

viral solstice
#

like this only not scuffed

cyan notch
#

you need to be constantly applying bleed forever

viral solstice
#

on psyker the equivalent is AB with pinning fire / blaze autopistol

#

should one shot most specials

steel flame
spice veldt
#

wow that is a fast ass falloff

viral solstice
#

yea bleed really struggles

#

and the falloff is faster at lower stacks

#

idk what they want bleed to be

cyan notch
#

its like 2s or something

#

maybe less

viral solstice
#

depends on stack count

#

its weird

steel flame
#

its like 5 seconds

viral solstice
#

eg

#

im just shooting to keep pinning fire up

#

but thats only 50%

#

u could get like double that with an autopistol

steel flame
#

what i need now is the tier 4 mercy kill

cyan notch
#

definitely less than 5s its 2s max max before it starts dropping

pine hearth
#

jsut make a zealot atleast then you can be half immortal with bleed

steel flame
#

i appreciate that it bypasses ogryn shield

#

stab it a few times get some damage in

#

i gotta go around the shield obviously

cyan notch
#

huh didnt they fix that shield bleed thing years ago

steel flame
#

bleed kills them really fast

pine hearth
#

not on the special

cyan notch
#

doesnt work for me

pine hearth
#

you have the non weak spot bleed blessing?

steel flame
#

you obviously cant hit through the shield but i just need a few hits with shield down to max bleed and that kills them

steel flame
#

its nice

cyan notch
#

ok u said bypasses the ogryn shield which confused me

steel flame
#

sry

ember hornet
#

one shotting mutants, feelsgoodman

viral solstice
#

mootant

ember hornet
#

they just deserve to be bullied

#

stam curio or peril block

#

or both ๐Ÿค”

#

not running peril resist though

cyan notch
#

u dont really need stam for peril block

viral solstice
#

doesnt look like this

#

what are u doing

spice veldt
#

stam curio supremacy

ember hornet
#

I'll try 1 stam curio instead of 1 of my hp curios mayhaps

spice veldt
#

at least with no stam curio, i kept getting my god damn ass guardbroken with the force sword

viral solstice
#

3 stam curios

spice veldt
#

i used to run 3 stam curios + peril block for some reason

ember hornet
#

lol

viral solstice
#

why not

spice veldt
#

and by some reason i mean because it's obviously the best

viral solstice
#

why did u stop

spice veldt
#

and that was before they fixed stamina curios

viral solstice
#

oh that makes sense

spice veldt
#

i finally consulted a doctor

viral solstice
#

when they fixed it u got too powerful

#

and wanted to keep things a challenge

spice veldt
#

yes

viral solstice
#

i respect it

cyan notch
#

back then it was cool cuz you could rez under a torrent of bullets

spice veldt
#

i'm just a humble person keeping my powers under the wraps

viral solstice
#

wraps anagram of warps

#

i see wat u did

spice veldt
#

spamming interact on a downed teammate to be basically invincible

pine hearth
#

have to run 3 exp curios at level 30

#

then win 500 damnation rounds

#

you get secrect lvl 31

#

secret*

viral solstice
#

i wanna be level 31

long wharf
#

having a single +3 stamina curio is a good idea

pine hearth
#

you only get a frame

long wharf
#

especially if you use Kinetic Deflection

viral solstice
#

having 3 +3 stamina curios is 3 good ideas

#

common sense

long wharf
#

you are incorrect, sir

long wharf
#

do not pass go.

viral solstice
#

what now

#

exactly

rain saddle
#

I have 62% bcr that is enough lol

long wharf
#

now? now you run like coward from the enemy

#

because that is all you can do

viral solstice
rain saddle
#

you can get 68% block cost reduction

viral solstice
#

im run like my favourite character, naruto the shippuden from the documentary borutoi

spice veldt
#

how else can I sprint to the sniper at the other end of consignment yard's finale?

#

checkmate

pine hearth
#

what is happening

rain saddle
#

i have enough block on psyker to fully block the 2h maul assassination target overhead

pine hearth
#

just got in a match with 3 chainaxe zealots

viral solstice
#

u see i know this is not true but at the same time i also know that it is true

#

as a +9 stam 100% block cost reduction chad

#

truly we find ourselves at an impasse

rain saddle
#

clearly you need 9+ stam 68% kinetic deflection

viral solstice
#

pop and block

long wharf
#

I wonder, at max possible stamina and block efficiency and peril resistance, how long could you tank a demonhost for

viral solstice
#

69% deflection

rain saddle
#

no 68% is max

viral solstice
#

no but thats why 68% is max

#

because they know what u unlock at 69%

spice veldt
#

with the MK5 duelling sword, you can tank the daemonhost for a good while even without peril block

viral solstice
#

u can tank a daemonhost forever

long wharf
#

if you're dodging, you aren't tanking, FYI

viral solstice
#

with zero peril block

#

and zero block cost reduction

long wharf
#

you're just keeping aggro

spice veldt
#

the MK5's defense stat also modifies block cost

viral solstice
#

literally thru being a chad

spice veldt
#

it just doesn't explain it for some reason

#

with +stam curios, stam regen, and block eff, you could tank a daemonhost by standing still with the MK5 for a good while

long wharf
#

that's what I want to know

#

how long

rain saddle
#

just stand on top of the terrain kek

viral solstice
#

u ruined it

spice veldt
#

this is a table of block costs that I got from testing against a groaner

viral solstice
#

btw

#

parry has a capped block cost

#

super powerful

#

one of those 2 statements is a lie

viral solstice
#

ah but u have rused urself

#

because parry does have a capped block cost

#

get japed

spice veldt
#

seems to be capped at 2 bars

viral solstice
#

2 bras indeed

#

but tragically

#

unblockables are just tagged unblockable

spice veldt
#

:(

feral verge
#

well what if you block them

spice veldt
#

they knew devil claws would be too strong

feral verge
#

a blocked unblockable is still a block

viral solstice
#

actually u can uh

#

parry some unblockable attacks

rain saddle
#

i think block efficiency reeduces unblockable damage

viral solstice
#

for the same reason u can spot dodge some undodgeable attacks

feral verge
#

can u block parriable attacks?

viral solstice
#

all blockables are parriable

#

parry is a special cased block

#

same code with some ifs for if its a parry

#

but

#

block doesnt have a cooldown or a riposte

#

and they have state limitations

#

u can instantly block->parry

#

but u cannot instantly parry->block

feral verge
#

does the dueling sword special stab have anything else going for it

#

other than stagger

#

i use it for stagger

viral solstice
#

u stab them

#

i think thats about it

feral verge
#

you can instantly knock a hound off of somebody with it

viral solstice
#

the best thing about parry is just how much work u have to do to make it work

#

and how little reward u get

#

its truly beautiful

spice veldt
#

can break ragers out of their combo i suppose

#

nvm

#

i lied

#

or can it

#

yeah you can bully ragers with DS specials

viral solstice
#

oh boy

#

u do NOT want to go down the rager rabbit hole

spice veldt
#

wow what's this hole in front of me

rocky cedar
viral solstice
#

lets just say

spice veldt
#

i sure should jump into it

viral solstice
#

ragers have some attacks that can be riposted

rocky cedar
#

Good safe single target combo

viral solstice
#

but still hit u

#

but not at certain spacings...

#

altho actually fk now i have creature spawner i can finally find out the exact mechanics

#

brb

rain saddle
#

should i keep on crafting this

viral solstice
#

yes

#

u got the godroll

feral verge
#

aye that's good

rain saddle
feral verge
#

its just

rain saddle
#

what would you put 20% bcr and what bless

feral verge
#

its gonna pale in comparison to the mk4 dueling sword

#

because

#

no tassle

#

you rolled low on the drip stat

spice veldt
#

MKV already has a ridiculously low block cost

rain saddle
#

what if i want the 56% bcr ๐Ÿ˜ข

spice veldt
#

das true

#

block an entire horde for days

feral verge
#

block maxing

spice veldt
#

at 80% it has a third of the usual block cost

feral verge
#

i have a block maxing force sword

#

stam, block cost reduction and deflector

spice veldt
#

by default, an 80% def MKV has a 5 times better block cost than the force sword

rain saddle
#

deflector 2 peasant

cyan notch
#

get mkv with 80 def and +3 stam curios with +12 block eff and block a dh

feral verge
#

@rain saddle

#

force sword twins

rain saddle
#

finally I can block with the force sword

#

dang you have t4 stamina

#

drip

feral verge
#

"dont worry guys i will block the demonhost, just go on and complete the mission. i;ll block it for the duration"

wide tiger
#

sounds a lot like a shieldgryn doing the exact same thing

feral verge
#

and do it with a demonhost that is nowhere near the mainroute

rain saddle
#

but with legs

cyan notch
#

i have a 75% def mkv

spice veldt
#

suboptimal

feral verge
#

i have this

#

ugly precog tho

cyan notch
#

i was gonna try it but then i realised i threw away my block eff +3 stam curios

spice veldt
#

...

feral verge
#

the finesse on this badboy

spice veldt
#

i can only say that I am disappointed

cyan notch
#

i have a bunch of green +3 stams

spice veldt
#

oh well then yay

cyan notch
#

but they cost like 5k plasteel to upgrade

wide tiger
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

cyan notch
#

SO I AINT DOIN IT

spice veldt
#

it's a great use of plasteel

cyan notch
#

curios are the stupidest plasteel sink ever

#

99% chance of bricking

#

costs a house

feral verge
#

this is a small portion of my 'failed' curios

#

i buy a HP curio from store

#

try to upgrade

#

most brick

#

but its ok at this point

#

cuz im only 7 hp away from the current max