#psyker-class

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feral verge
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shred is good i think

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but i would choose ripsote over shred

viral lion
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Bump

feral verge
feral verge
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i run all HP curios, with HP perk, toughness regen

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it's very effective and versatile

viral lion
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Alrighty

spice veldt
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purg staff is generally the best staff and easiest to use

feral verge
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most damnation games go p smooth with it

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purg is easiest to use

viral lion
feral verge
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yea

spice veldt
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yup

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the flamethrower

viral lion
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Heh ok cool

spice veldt
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you unlock it at lvl15 iirc

viral lion
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I’m only like level 3 rn, popping heads and such

feral verge
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the level grind sucks

spice veldt
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the lvl 5 feat you pick depends on your playstyle (if you bb a lot, essence harvest, otherwise quietude is better; warp absorption isn't a popular pick)

feral verge
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but it gets better by 12 or so, once oyu start unlocking decent staves

spice veldt
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ah, brain burst

feral verge
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brain burst

viral lion
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Ah of course

feral verge
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ask alot of questions in here

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people are really helpful

spice veldt
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lvl15 feat depends; I personally prefer Psykinetic's Aura for the cooldown reduction since I don't run any of the lvl30 feats that dumps all of your warp charges

viral lion
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Okie, I got the hang of the other classes, psyker tho is my odd one out.

floral solstice
viral lion
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I’m mostly an Ogryn main

spice veldt
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you're an unexpected error

feral verge
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ranni stan moment

floral solstice
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who's this unexpected error guy who aborted me

viral lion
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Also Male Loner is best voice option

real sapphire
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Female Loner gang

feral verge
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i run female loner

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female loner gang rise up

viral lion
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Loner gang

real sapphire
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the laughs really sell it for me

feral verge
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i posted this before, but i wanna see if ppl agree

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90% of female savant psykers look like this

viral lion
feral verge
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"oh. i touched you. you're damned now"

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"i enjoy this. i do"

real sapphire
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I love the line delivery on "cower, plead, beg" every time too.

viral lion
feral verge
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my fav is

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worship me or DIE

viral lion
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I named mine “Kreyzee”

feral verge
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i dig

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mine is mai

viral lion
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Cuz he’s crazy and I couldn’t think of a good name

feral verge
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all my chacracters except ogryn are named after npcs from the far harbor dlc for fallout 4 lol

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characters*

viral lion
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What’s your Ogryn?

feral verge
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Gromm

viral lion
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Nice

real sapphire
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The grimdark future of Maine.

feral verge
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named after an oblivion npc lol

viral lion
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Mine’s Rik

obtuse crypt
# viral lion

They ruined thw joke by putting the whole subtitles in now Sitgryn

sinful vigil
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what blessings/perks do you want on a force sword?

feral verge
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slaughterer, blood thirsty and deflector are the top 3

real sapphire
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funny fire

spice veldt
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slaughterer is the must-have option, and the other blessing slot is between bloodthirsty or deflector

obtuse crypt
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I got a force sword with a level 4 soul fire and shred that's pretty nice

remote void
# viral lion

i hope that in the future fatshark add the capability to change personalities cause thats funny as hell

sinful vigil
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why is slaughterer so important?

spice veldt
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at t3, it gives +60% power at max stacks

feral verge
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more damage

obtuse crypt
spice veldt
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that's +60% damage, +60% cleave, and +60% stagger

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i'm not sure if the effect is linear, but that seems to be the case so far

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at least for damage and cleave

sinful vigil
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oh i thought power was just damage

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alright good to know, ty

spice veldt
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it's certainly one of the things that the game doesn't explain to you

obtuse crypt
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Nah power is probably one of the best things to get buffed in the game, make the shovel hilarious

leaden thunder
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it's also multiplicative with anything that is just +% damage

cyan notch
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power was fixed

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it affected all those in vt2

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it just only did damage in dt before cuz lol

mellow dock
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This any better?

feral verge
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that's p good

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replace weakspot damage with +crit rate, or damage vs flak

mellow dock
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ok will do

sinful vigil
obtuse crypt
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One day agile will be in and the dueling sword will get even funnier,

sinful vigil
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what should the perks be?

feral verge
feral verge
spice veldt
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nice FS

mellow dock
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This better

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?

spice veldt
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I like +maniac for mutants and dreg ragers

feral verge
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yeah i dig that

sinful vigil
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so should i replace the specialist dmg? i feel like you don't really want to melee specials as psyker

feral verge
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the crit saber

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i have a similar one

spice veldt
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mutants are specials

mellow dock
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nice ill give it a try

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i tried the previous one in damnation

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was pretty good but not enough damage

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im gonna try this one too now

spice veldt
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if you're not running Warp Unleashed, that +8% will probably push you over the 2-shot breakpoint for mutants with light-special bodyshots if you have +maniac

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if you don't plan on running any +stam curios, then that +1 stam is probably good

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up to you

feral verge
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wierd that tier 4 +stam is the same as tier 3

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is that an acknowledged bug

mellow dock
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Is stam worth really taking? I've never tried it

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and i usually run T5 High int

sinful vigil
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i feel like stam is pretty good

mellow dock
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yeah?

feral verge
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psyker has low stam

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high stam regen

leaden thunder
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some people like it

mellow dock
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you notice a big diff?

feral verge
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extra stam lets you push alot more

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my argument for it is that fs does enough damage

leaden thunder
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I wouldn't run it unless I was using a deflector fs tho

feral verge
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atleast mine does

mellow dock
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ahh good point

feral verge
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i two shot trash mobs

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and i two shot bulwarks with the special

sinful vigil
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stam feels good with dueling sword too

mellow dock
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hmm

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ill try some builds with it

feral verge
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so i dont feel +damage is necesarry, for me atleast

mellow dock
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thx for the advice guys

spice veldt
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stam is pretty important if you don't run kinetic deflection

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if you do run kinetic deflection, then stam is whatever

feral verge
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so +stam and +block are more useful

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for clutch rezzing and shit

mellow dock
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yep

fierce sinew
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I also like +maniac on DS

mellow dock
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Nice

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let me ask you this...

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i cant believe im asking this because I have used the dueling sword alot!

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does it cleave with push hit

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or just regularly too

feral verge
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gasp

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kick this guy

mellow dock
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What

spice veldt
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i think the push-attacks of all duelling swords have 6 cleave

feral verge
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im kidding

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i dont know the answer eiother lol

mellow dock
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Because

spice veldt
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but their lights all have 2 cleave

mellow dock
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ive never noticed me hitting 3 targets with a regular hit

fierce sinew
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push cut does, the damage isn't enough to matter but you can activate rampage with it

mellow dock
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So im assuming then

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that rampage is only useful with push slice

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correct?

spice veldt
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lights will pretty much only cleave 3 enemies if they're groaners

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rampage can only be reliably triggered with the push-attack yes for most enemies

sinful vigil
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damage is the dump stat for purgatus right? since the damage comes from the dot not the staff itself

leaden thunder
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well it procs on push slice it's useful all the time

mellow dock
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exactly what i was thinking

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different style of play

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at least slightly different

feral verge
spice veldt
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damage is a dump stat, but i'd probably give up warp resistance first for purgatus if I could

leaden thunder
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you just do it to keep the rampage maintained

sinful vigil
leaden thunder
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since it's like

mellow dock
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i assume then another thing

spice veldt
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yeah that seems fine

mellow dock
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with rampage

sinful vigil
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ok cool

mellow dock
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running stamina would be ideal

fierce sinew
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I think warp res matters a lot more now than it did

spice veldt
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cloud radius is the most important stat on a flamethrower

mellow dock
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because it would coincide with it

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right?

sinful vigil
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gotcha

fierce sinew
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burn+cloud obviously the most important

leaden thunder
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I mean you don't need to spam the push with rampage

spice veldt
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duelling swords consumes 1 stamina bar on a push, and you really only need it every 3 seconds

fierce sinew
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but I think both warp res and quell speed matter now

feral verge
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for ds

mellow dock
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but doesnt push slice, slice more than 2 targets

feral verge
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hat's the horde clear combo

mellow dock
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and since you are pushing

spice veldt
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the damage on push-attacks are lower for duelling swords

feral verge
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how many lights until i do a puish attack

mellow dock
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right exactly arc

feral verge
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(i have rampage on it)

leaden thunder
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rampage is a buff

mellow dock
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is that why they put rampage

leaden thunder
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not only one the one attack that cleaves

mellow dock
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to make push slice viable

sinful vigil
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so I have literally no idea what you want on a purgatus staff,

mellow dock
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and if you add stamina to it

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it makes it stronger

spice veldt
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oh wait, push attacks do the same damage as lights for duelling swords

mellow dock
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but its slower

spice veldt
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but it cleaves more

leaden thunder
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rampage doesn't need the weapon to constantly cleave 3 to do more damage

mellow dock
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yes exactly

leaden thunder
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it's just a buff that activates when you do

mellow dock
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it cleaves more

spice veldt
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lights only have a cleave count of 2, and push-attacks have a cleave count of 6

mellow dock
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exactly

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thats why rampage

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and if you stack stamina

cyan notch
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yea u push attack to get rampage then light spam

mellow dock
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it makes it very strong

steel flame
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Im not sure how they did it but they did

spice veldt
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you're going to be out of stamina when you push-attack spam anyways

mellow dock
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its a like a puzzle

spice veldt
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esp for duelling swords with only 1 base stamina

fierce sinew
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you don't need to stock stamina to push cut whenever you please on psyker

leaden thunder
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I think you are misunderstanding what rampage does

steel flame
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push registration on pox bursters is somehow even worse after this patch than is twas beofre

mellow dock
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im just trying to figure out their design choice

steel flame
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HOW DID THEY FUCK IT UP EVEN MORE

spice veldt
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one of my games was pretty laggy

mellow dock
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hmm

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I do push cut alot

mellow dock
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but it slows down a little when out of stamina

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maybe stamina helps with that? Idk

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i mean the curio

spice veldt
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you can push as long as you have a nonzero amount of stamina

mellow dock
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yep i know

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so +3 stamina would be better right?

fierce sinew
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the only thing more stamina really helps with is sprinting

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that and KD blocking

spice veldt
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yeah, +3 stamina is nice

mellow dock
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ive never tried it

spice veldt
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eh, stamina helps with pushes on weapons with 1 stamina bar cost pushes

fierce sinew
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you can get away with greedier revives if you have the stam curio

mellow dock
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thats why im thinking out loud here

spice veldt
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i personally run +3 stam with a force sword since I don't run kinetic deflection

fierce sinew
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but it's mostly to zoom around and pick up all the plasteel

cyan portal
spice veldt
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having an extra stamina buffer is still nice for pushing

mellow dock
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doesnt a push take like 43% stamina?

spice veldt
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and for the force sword where block/push-cancelling is a part of your combo

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it depends on the weapon

mellow dock
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how much does a +3 Curio make

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anyone know?

spice veldt
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and pushing consumes a flat amount depending on the weapon

fierce sinew
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during combat I'm more or less always at 0 stamina

spice veldt
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for the knife, duelling sword, and force sword, pushes consume 1 stamina

mellow dock
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me 2

restive slate
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How about Stam regen? I'd test around if curios weren't so much harder to craft

fierce sinew
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if my melee is out

mellow dock
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so 1 stamina is = 43%?

spice veldt
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it depends on the maximum

sinful vigil
mellow dock
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cause im in the psyk

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testing it

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sec

spice veldt
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is that the MK5?

mellow dock
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yes

fierce sinew
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for everything other than sprinting it's more like you get 1 stamina action every .5 seconds

spice veldt
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the MK5's push cost scales with your defense stat

fierce sinew
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the costs don't matter

mellow dock
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ok so 1 stamina curio of +2 makes it only cost 22%

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from 43 with nothing

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to 22% with a +2 stamina curio

spice veldt
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multiply the percentage by the max amount of stamina you have; that's the flat amount of stamina that a push consumes

mellow dock
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trying with another +2 Stamina curio

spice veldt
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so 22% * 4 = 0.88 stamina bars consumed on a push

mellow dock
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so 2x 2Stamina Curio it is still the same cost as 1 curio of 2 stamina

echo turtle
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stam curios are a waste on this class

mellow dock
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thats what i thought Rhino but there may be some viability

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thats wht is being discussed

echo turtle
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there really isn’t

cyan portal
# sinful vigil terrifying barrage is good?

I don't mind it. I assume they'll do a big balance pass on psyk staves at some point, so you might want to just leave it for now, it'll function very well as it is. The stat rolls are ideal.

mellow dock
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Rampage Perk

spice veldt
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if you're using weapons with a low max stamina and you're not running kinetic deflection, it provides a buffer

leaden thunder
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idk why you'd need more stamina for rampage

echo turtle
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does it get + power for every stam you have?

mellow dock
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how is it that 2 curios with stamina are not additive?

cyan notch
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helps u block more if u want to go deflector

leaden thunder
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you aren't just using push attacks with rampage

echo turtle
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which is like, not necessary

mellow dock
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Rhino rampage works on cleave

leaden thunder
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it gives you a buff

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when you cleave

echo turtle
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not seeing how stam comes into play at all

mellow dock
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cleave only activates on Mk5 with push slice

leaden thunder
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not just on that cleave

echo turtle
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Kinetic deflection exists

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so

mellow dock
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3+ target cleave that is

leaden thunder
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feels like I am screaming into a void here

echo turtle
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yeah

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I’m not sure they understand what Kd foes

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does+

leaden thunder
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I mean rampage

echo turtle
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it gives you functionally infinite stam

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oh

leaden thunder
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you don't need to be constantly cleaving

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for it to work

mellow dock
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We are talking about the MK5 Dueling sword

echo turtle
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its +40% damage when you hit 3 targets right?

mellow dock
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keep up

fierce sinew
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yeah stam for psyker is just sprint duration

echo turtle
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dude

leaden thunder
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it's so easy to keep it up

spice veldt
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push-attacks on duelling swords aren't necessarily that good anyways because the minimum cleave damage is extremely shit

echo turtle
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you don’t need stam

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thats why people are confused

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if you don’t want to get gaurd broken use kinetic deflection

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its the same as having infinite stamina

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Congrats

spice veldt
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with the caveat that kinetic deflection stops your passive regen on block

echo turtle
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you’re problem is solved

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you don’t need rhe regen tho

fierce sinew
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there are still people under the impression that we pay stamina costs

echo turtle
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ahaha

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Imagine that

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what is this, stamina for ANTS

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so I’ve been usinng this

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It’s OK

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I need to get better perks, but it’s able to drop shit once it ramps up

mellow dock
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Im not using KD Rhino

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i used to

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but ive switched

echo turtle
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yeah so thats for first mistake

mellow dock
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after the patch

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no its not

echo turtle
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k gl then

mellow dock
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post patch Kinetic Shield is something ive been testing

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which has been very good

echo turtle
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I don’t it either rn. But I donMt get hit

spice veldt
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+stam provides some nice protection

mellow dock
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I ran KD for ever on psy

echo turtle
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I am using shield with resists

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but I wouldn’t drop anything for stam

mellow dock
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I wouldnt either

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thats why we were discussing it

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because some people were talking about stam being a good option

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which is where the discussion started

echo turtle
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Those people are on crack

mellow dock
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and im trying to figure out why

steel flame
# cyan notch seems the same to me

i had SIX poxbursters ignore push in a single match, 4 in another, they are even ignoring laspistol pushes now in addition to melee pushes. best part is the failed pushes are triggering the stagger immunity so other people trying to push afterwards are also ignored. ITS GREAT

echo turtle
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aha

mellow dock
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Ive never even used a stam curio yet

feral verge
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i only us hp curio

mellow dock
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i only have 2 of them from drops, out of a 100

feral verge
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im so close to the max hp possible

echo turtle
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I have a few 3 stammies

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greens

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never to be used

mellow dock
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yeah thats why im wondering

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why is it in there

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if there is some viability

echo turtle
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For veterans

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cuz they have shit stamina

mellow dock
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I dont use stam on my vet

echo turtle
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they smoke a pack a day

cyan notch
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if u want to block bullets with deflector +stam helps

mellow dock
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only toughness 17%x3

echo turtle
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I have a 3 stam on mine

cyan notch
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but its more of a haha fun thing

echo turtle
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cuz I was getting gaurd broken a lot

steel flame
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i use 2 3+ stamina and a wound on my psyker. infinite block babeeeeeeee

feral verge
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idk what i'd replace my +stam on my fs with

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cuz i dont need damage

echo turtle
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you always need damage

olive ember
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I mean you could do block efficiency

feral verge
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nah i dont

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i two shot everything

echo turtle
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do you not attack enemies with your sword?

feral verge
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two shot trash

mellow dock
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Two shot with what Mankar?

feral verge
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i two shot muties with the special

echo turtle
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should be one shotting trash

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could be one shotting

fierce sinew
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not one shotting

feral verge
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not necesarry

echo turtle
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lol

mellow dock
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what weapon

feral verge
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i two shot with special

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or i BB when they come in

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then use special

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dead

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force sword

echo turtle
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1 shotting is 2x the efficiency of 2 shotting

cyan notch
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🤓 wow

feral verge
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you need specific stuff to 1 shot with force sword

echo turtle
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maths

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not really

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mine 1 shots all chaff with headstrikes

viral solstice
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i one shot everything

echo turtle
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I think it can 1 shot a mutie

fierce sinew
echo turtle
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bahahahaha

viral solstice
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when i need to crit

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i crit

mellow dock
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which weapon Rhino

viral solstice
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das just how i do

echo turtle
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it’s alright

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this one I made today

feral verge
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high peril, 6 warp stacks, unstable power iv

cyan notch
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still with the phone pics

feral verge
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some guy was testing earlier today in chat

viral solstice
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its 2023 if ur not running 6 warp charges and a high peril build

feral verge
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he had a bunch of shit going for ihm

viral solstice
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what u doing with ur life

feral verge
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but still could not 1 shot the mutie

spice veldt
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that was tinyangrycrab

echo turtle
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I play on an eliptical in my basement

viral solstice
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well to be fair i couldn't one shot the mutant because my weapon has a 5% crit perk on it

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because its designed to set ppl on fire

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not one shot things

echo turtle
spice veldt
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smh

viral solstice
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if the second blessing was slaughterer 1stack would do it

echo turtle
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this is how I play

viral solstice
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or %mutie damage

echo turtle
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so ur getting phone pics

fierce sinew
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this channel has a higher density of phone camera posters of any PC game channel I've ever used

viral solstice
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thats a stat only cool ppl get

mellow dock
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Rhino what level do you play at

fierce sinew
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where do you degenerates come from

echo turtle
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T5

fierce sinew
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how are all of you here

echo turtle
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preferably his

fierce sinew
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specifically

feral verge
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i am from assachusetts

cyan notch
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📵

mellow dock
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how the heck do you play T5 on an eliptical

echo turtle
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its not that hard

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git gud

olive ember
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Actually cursed

echo turtle
mellow dock
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I play T5 High Int too

echo turtle
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I’m topping charts while I do it

mellow dock
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all characters

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but

fierce sinew
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should put a monitor on the ceiling and play from the bench

echo turtle
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this was like a warm uo game with a Force sword, a weapon I haven’t touched in a month

fierce sinew
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with your feet

echo turtle
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One day

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One day I will

mellow dock
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playing it on an eliptical machine is something else.

echo turtle
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It’s easier than it looks

feral verge
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is it bad if i left a high int damn lobby cuz there was a shieldgryn

viral solstice
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i actually top charts while not even playing the game

cyan notch
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yea id assume its probably ez af

viral solstice
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i simply manifest it

fierce sinew
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somebody should just bolt a keyboard to the top of one of those westside belt squat rigs

cyan notch
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just do it lol

mellow dock
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lol while peddling

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good workout

echo turtle
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I like the bowflex max for the vert tho

fierce sinew
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if you're purging anyway

mellow dock
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have they buffed the shield?

feral verge
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most just block the vet

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and die

mellow dock
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i tried it last night... although i dont use it ever... it seemed the club swings faster

feral verge
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'why block when you can just do damage'

fierce sinew
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shield is comfy for purg+flamer

echo turtle
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We can all agree tho

FS benchmarks are 1 shotting a mutie with no weakspot hit, and 1 shottinf chaff with lights?

fierce sinew
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I'd rather that then the ogryn knocking everything everywhere

spice veldt
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1-shotting a mutie seems to be a little far away without both +maniac and +specialist

viral solstice
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surely one shotting crusher

cyan notch
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its pretty hard to 1 shot bodyshot mutant

spice veldt
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or without unstable power at least

echo turtle
viral solstice
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i mean if i had slaughterer

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would be like 2 stacks and ez

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the key point isnt about the practicality of one shotting a crusher

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its about making thunder hammer users feel bad

echo turtle
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so, without even the + 25% manic I got 3100 damage in

viral solstice
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this is basic science

echo turtle
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I figure with unstable@power and + maniac that should do the trick

viral solstice
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ye i would do it with +maniac

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easily

spice veldt
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i can almost nearly one-shot a mutant with a light-special at max t3 slaughterer stacks

viral solstice
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like im 63 damage off

echo turtle
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thats with 0 slaughterer stacks

#

cuz, you cant rely on that imo

viral solstice
#

ye im 63 with 0 slaught stacks off

spice veldt
#

i've recently been in situations where I hit mutants with slaughterer stacks

#

it's not reliable, but it does happen

echo turtle
#

thats with unstable and mutie damage?

viral solstice
#

thats with unstable but no %maniacs

#

i only have %carapace on that sword

echo turtle
#

ah gotcha

viral solstice
#

because other perk is 5% crit (for the blazing spirit, naturally)

echo turtle
#

ew

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thts disgusting

#

you holding off for bloodthirst?

viral solstice
#

i mean

#

its fire sword

echo turtle
#

yeah

viral solstice
#

i gotta stick with the theme

echo turtle
#

and you didn’t pair it with shred?

viral solstice
#

no

#

shred drops off basically everything

cyan notch
#

ah yes heavy 1 spam for 900 instant thp

viral solstice
#

and i wanted to test unstable power

echo turtle
#

If you miss a single attack lol

viral solstice
#

i dont ever really swing with the sword i just whip it out and special ppl

#

and if they get set on fire thats a bonus

echo turtle
#

I swing a lot

viral solstice
#

maybe a poxwalker or 2

#

ye but im using a voidstrike

echo turtle
#

I mean, I’m using fire

viral solstice
#

so its just like 90% im keeping my flurry stacks up and just point blank blasting

echo turtle
#

still faster to slice and dice a lot of the time

#

ah

viral solstice
#

i mean its basically never faster

leaden thunder
#

doesn't shred multistack

#

like if you hit multiple dudes

#

you get more stacks

echo turtle
#

hard to say lol

#

not like theres an indicator

viral solstice
#

but ye i did have shred on it

#

just for more fire

#

but then i was just like im never swinging so fuk it unstable

echo turtle
#

unstable is p decent

#

I want it

viral solstice
#

yeah its a nice predictable power boost that is default up in the situations u need it on a weapon that can max it out with zero danger

#

its probs bis on force sword frankly

#

barring swag setups

wide tiger
#

I know warp flurry is better but... take what you can get right?

viral solstice
#

no thats better because it shoot blob

#

and das best

#

i still dont have surge

cyan notch
wide tiger
#

do it

#

push that button

viral solstice
#

how come all u fux get surge but i inhale 3000 voidstrikes per second and i dont even get t4 blaze it up

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anti-crustacean bigotry rears its ugly head once again

cyan notch
#

cuz i have 5 psykers

#

5x more shops

viral solstice
#

o das tru

#

yea in ur case its reasonable

#

u put in the hours

#

and the mammaries

cyan notch
#

itd be cool if they made melkbucks account wide tho

#

might be a little too immeasurably complex so who knows

viral solstice
#

yea for sure

#

otherwise u always have to keep a buffer of like 3k

#

on every character

#

just in case u get the object of ur desire

cyan notch
#

slave to weeklies

#

and even 3k is just good for one buy per week

viral solstice
#

i mean actually surge is the only thing i unironically want rn because its a blessing that makes a weapon do something funny

#

i got infernus 4 for laspistol and its just as disappointing as u imagine

cyan notch
#

it sets things on fire tho thats pretty cool

#

id keep it

viral solstice
#

yea

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not ljike laspistols have damage blessings

wide tiger
viral solstice
#

and it makes laser shovel cooler

#

yes but ur somebody else (not me) and therefore ur suffering is not real

wide tiger
#

I actually got surge from an emps blessing back in december

#

used that staff for a few months, melted it recently

viral solstice
#

i mean thats the strat

wide tiger
#

was like my first legendary emp blessing

#

and then i never got a force weapon again

viral solstice
#

ye i have liek 1 purg and 2 trauma staves

#

ive never bothered buying them but still

#

its just like dam

jagged badger
#

Praise the Emperor

viral solstice
#

i kinda like that

#

ur just slappin them in the face

#

over and over

jagged badger
#

Only once

viral solstice
#

slappy slappy

jagged badger
#

It mows hordes

viral solstice
#

well i mean like big dudes

jagged badger
#

Oh, of course

cyan notch
#

big dudes u usually special their face though

viral solstice
#

but why would u special u could go

#

slappy slappy slappy

#

imagine bein slapped in the face like that

jagged badger
viral solstice
#

its like first slap hurts but then second its all like oh noooo

cyan notch
#

cuz they have big rock on stick and are really strong and unstaggerable

jagged badger
#

replacing that one

proven raven
#

If you pace your strikes enough, every strike can be a first strike

wide tiger
#

rampage > shred for this? Also better to have + Maniac damage or + crit chance? Anyone know MkIV sabers well?

viral solstice
#

rampage 4 would probably be better but idk the diff models and how u proc it

#

if ur mainly just slapping individuals then fuck it just go shred and go all in on the crit life

#

its more fun

wide tiger
#

easy to proc rampage

#

with mk4, it cleaves

viral solstice
#

well if ur gettin it up

wide tiger
#

i was thinking of going all crit tho

viral solstice
#

then yeah thats always gon be better than shred

#

because ur hitting weak spots

#

and weakspot: weakspot crit is always a crappy ratio

bold flint
#

do i purchase this

wide tiger
#

just to try it, but it would prob be better to go all in on crit for a mkv

viral solstice
#

hell yea

wide tiger
viral solstice
#

double 4s

leaden thunder
#

i'd be warry of purchasing anything rn

lethal lagoon
#

Normally yes, but melks is bugged atm isn't it?

viral solstice
#

well

leaden thunder
#

some people have reported bugs

viral solstice
#

yes u must be careful

wide tiger
lethal lagoon
#

That's why everyone is getting such good items and then getting scammed

viral solstice
#

melk could be comin for ur coinage

#

hes pulling moves

wide tiger
#

I heard that the buying thing is fucked rn

lethal lagoon
#

Just wait till tommorow, store doesn't reset till 7 anyways

#

There might be a hotfix

cyan notch
#

i dont think mk4 cleaves more targets

#

its still 2 per light

#

so same thing push attack for rampage

wide tiger
#

you sure? hmm

#

it doesnt have cleave targets so i guess, kinda lame that you cant rampage without push atk tho

#

ohwell

viral solstice
#

i feel like on duelling sword i would want uncanny strike

#

because its so fun slapping their head

digital narwhal
#

Don't you love it when you're on Assassination and only you and the Ogryn bother attacking the boss?

viral solstice
#

uncanny strike shred

digital narwhal
#

We almost had him, but the other 2 just-

#

Didn't bother attacking the boss.

#

:)

#

I love losing out on 800 Plasteel because people don't play objective.

cyan notch
#

dont u still get like 300 or something

digital narwhal
#

500 less though.

restive slate
#

Boss gives plasteel?

hard totem
#

What are you guys rocking for main stat in curios? I use 1 health and 2 toughness, is that alright? I primarily play tier 4

Also have gunner damage down on all of my curios lol

digital narwhal
restive slate
#

Oh nooo

wide tiger
cyan notch
#

i usually focus adds on boss parts so people can easily 3v1 boss uninterrupted

wide tiger
#

I have an uncanny 4/rampage 3 MKV

#

its nice to be able to just attack crushers

restive slate
#

That's the reason why I have uncanny shovel on veteran too

#

Just fun having an armour piercing shovel

digital narwhal
#

How important is damage on Purgatus?

wide tiger
#

So something I'm unsure of: If you have 100% rending, lets say from uncanny strike 5, and you have + damage to flak/carapace, do you still get that bonus damage despite piercing 100% armor?

restive slate
#

Not that important, burn priority

viral solstice
#

ur like im slappin and gettin stronger

wide tiger
#

ah

viral solstice
#

had a 4 psyker hi-5 earlier

#

siblings everytwhere

restive slate
#

What voices?

cyan notch
#

i think rending goes to like 40% max or something

wide tiger
#

oh really? you can never get 100% armor pierce?

viral solstice
#

rending stacks as a debuff

wide tiger
#

My heavies and lights with uncanny 4 sure do a lot of damage to crushers

viral solstice
#

rending/brittleness

#

have a cap

#

%rending doesnt

#

u can get 100%

wide tiger
#

no brittleness is a debuff

#

rending is a buff

digital narwhal
viral solstice
#

incorrect

#

+x stacks of rending

#

as u see on eg can opener

digital narwhal
#

I imagine not that important because of Battle Meditation?

viral solstice
#

or idk bolter

#

that is the same debuff as brittleness

wide tiger
#

+x stacks of rending gives YOU armor pierce

viral solstice
#

they just haev 2 tooltips

#

no

wide tiger
#

yeah

viral solstice
#

they do the same thing in the lua

wide tiger
#

I can show you in the psyk

viral solstice
#

apply_rending_debuff

wide tiger
#

I can go headshot some trash

#

and go to a crusher

viral solstice
#

with which enchant

restive slate
wide tiger
#

and apply 100% damage with rending to him without ever hitting a weak spot

digital narwhal
#

Fair

wide tiger
#

with uncanny strike on the rapier

viral solstice
#

thats %rending

wide tiger
#

yes thats what im talking about

#

😛

hard totem
viral solstice
#

yes read up what i was saying hehehe

lethal lagoon
#

@digital narwhal You are looking for Burn > Cloud Radius > Quell > Damage > Warp Resist

spice veldt
#

cloud radius is more important than burn

viral solstice
#

theres debuff rending which u see on bolters and shit

#

which is brittleness because

spice veldt
#

soulblaze is going to kill them anyways

viral solstice
#

etc

#

anyway its just dum

spice veldt
#

might as well have the range to reach enemies

wide tiger
hard totem
wide tiger
#

oh yeah

restive slate
#

Crab speed cannot be nerfed haha

wide tiger
#

the one onn bolter

cyan notch
#

yea cloud is better imo affects your range

wide tiger
#

it should be brittleness...

viral solstice
#

bolter, can opener, any time u see +x rending as a count

wide tiger
#

they just suck at labeling their shit

viral solstice
#

rumbler

wide tiger
#

just like they fixed rending shockwave

spice veldt
#

rending% is a selfbuff, +rending is the debuff

wide tiger
#

to read as brittle

lethal lagoon
#

After testing, I'd rather have 80 burn and 70 cloud than the reverse, everyone is different though.

spice veldt
#

well

restive slate
spice veldt
#

actually that's not really true

#

i'm pretty sure sean tested +rending on a weapon and it turned out to actually be a self-buff

hard totem
#

Any advice on what main stats to use for tier 4 and higher? I use 2 toughness and 1 health, focused toughness since that’s the “health” I can regen. Should I be focusing other stats?

Edit: I don’t die much since going down usually means the game is over anyway so I don’t bother with wounds

leaden thunder
wide tiger
#

but it was always brittleness

leaden thunder
#

I tested it but I was solo testing it

restive slate
#

Ahhhh got it, thought they changed the effect

leaden thunder
#

so I may not be correct

spice veldt
#

though it should still apply after swapping weapons

wide tiger
#

A

spice veldt
#

very sus

wide tiger
#

All i know for sure because i tested it myself is that + rending from uncanny is a self buff

viral solstice
#

yea uncanny is %

#

it transfers

wide tiger
#

indeed

viral solstice
#

the only trick is

#

most %rending is actually on individual hits

#

eg backstab/hand-cannon

#

so ppl get confused and ask how long it lasts and its like

#

just for that hit

leaden thunder
#

would + rending last when you swap

dense panther
#

anyone know the internal cooldown for warp flurry? how long until the stacks reset

viral solstice
#

+rending will yes

wide tiger
#

I havent tested that yet

leaden thunder
#

hmm

viral solstice
#

flat stacks

leaden thunder
#

when I tested it

#

it seemed to go away

wide tiger
#

the +rending (aka brittleness) does

leaden thunder
#

when I swapped

viral solstice
#

i was the one who bug-reported rending reducing ur damage with the code to fatshark over christmas

lunar hollow
#

what blessings are good for purgatus

viral solstice
#

because ppl kept telling me rending on rumbler was good

#

and i had to show them that not only did it not make a difference to ttk but it lowered my shovel damage

#

the eternal struggle

leaden thunder
#

let me check again

#

I am pretty sure my damage wasn't increased when I swaped

#

after hitting something with a +rending

viral solstice
#

well depends how good the weapon u were using was vs that armour type

wide tiger
#

like a bolter bolt with rending? it should

hard totem
leaden thunder
#

bolter vs carapace is the test I remember

#

I think I tested it for a couple of other weapons as well

cyan notch
viral solstice
leaden thunder
#

shot with bolter then hit them with my heavy sword

viral solstice
leaden thunder
#

and it didn't deal more damage

viral solstice
#

that it was bad

#

it was absolutely insane

hard totem
viral solstice
#

ye i always use toughness because u have more direct control over it and its ur "take a free hit" meter

hard totem
#

Tbh you’re Lowkey convincing me to take off my one health curio, but it’s deff saved my life once or twice cus BOY when that shield breaks

leaden thunder
#

hmm

#

nvm

hard totem
#

I explode lmao

leaden thunder
#

I tested wrong

feral verge
#

all hp curio masterace

viral solstice
#

i think its really legit a playstyle thing

feral verge
#

260hp masterace

viral solstice
#

like some ppl are really conservative with their hp

feral verge
#

more hp than default zealot masterace

viral solstice
#

some ppl play around toughness

#

etc

spice veldt
#

i'm fine with hit trading

viral solstice
#

just dont worry about it really

#

any survivability will work

#

just use whatever u got

formal flume
#

Just dodge. Ezpz.

hard totem
spice veldt
#

i can take like 10 hits in 20 seconds and still have more than 75% of my HP left

formal flume
#

Never worry about health again

feral verge
#

i rarely go down

viral solstice
#

but ye for those wondering about rending

#

that rumbler has +4 rending

hard totem
leaden thunder
feral verge
#

i like hp cuz higher number

viral solstice
#

well use whatever u like i guess

hard totem
#

How do you deal with the chip damage of having a smaller shield? The extra health just amounts to you making it more consistently to the next health station?

feral verge
#

140~ toughness vs 260hp

hard totem
#

Cus with double toughness I have entire sections of the map that I don’t take ANY health damage

feral verge
#

with fs im pretty defensive

#

with duelling sword i become aggressive

#

both work for me

#

with the hp

hard totem
#

I have the curios for it I’ll give it a shot

spice veldt
#

i actually run 1 toughness so that I lose less relative toughness per hit

hard totem
#

Ah so you do 2 health 1 toughness

spice veldt
#

more toughness = taking a hit every so often is better
more health = taking hits consecutively is better

hard totem
#

The opposite of me lol

spice veldt
#

1 toughness, 1 hp, 1 stam is my build

feral verge
hard totem
#

Ooo yeah I don’t touch Stam, kinetic shield is dope

feral verge
#

no more balanced build

#

ITS ALL OR NOTHING

#

PICK UR SIDE

spice veldt
#

i run stam because i don't run kinetic deflection, and my pushes have insane stagger whenever I have max slaughterer stacks

#

I can literally push a horde back with every push and move forward

feral verge
#

cool i didnt know slaughterer impacted push

hard totem
spice veldt
#

yeah, power buffs in general affect your pushes

#

i run kinetic shield instead

feral verge
spice veldt
#

i run the trauma staff to clear enemies if i ever need to revive

hard totem
feral verge
#

im trying to build a god trauma to match my god voidstrike

leaden thunder
#

power effects everything pretty much

viral solstice
#

reviving teammates is a crutch for players who cant solo the rest of the game for the youtube vid smh

feral verge
#

but i cant even roll good base stats on a trauma

#

they're all missing the blast radius

lethal folio
#

Deflector is disabled when rescuing.

hard totem
feral verge
#

yeah, not a bug

hard totem
#

MY SADNESS IS INFINITE

cyan notch
#

youll be fine

#

just let em die if theyre in a shit spot

hard totem
#

this could turn a man to chaos

#

I thought that was so dope lol

#

Blocking bullets to rez

cyan notch
#

only reserved for ogryns now

#

although they can still be shot to pieces

hard totem
#

Yuh so could we 😦

#

Oh whale

#

Thanks for the tips bois

cyan notch
#

you can still get off resses under fire if u ult then res sometimes

#

revive speed probably helps too but nobody uses that shit except @still hearth

feral verge
#

need

#

force greatsword

#

1 shot crusher

ember hornet
#

voidstrike + force sword feels pretty darn good

spice veldt
#

with +25% carapace, you could probably one-shot crushers at max slaughterer stacks

#

or maybe fall a little short

#

i do 2100 damage with a crit heavy-headshot without +carapace

feral verge
#

i dont want to oneshot with force sword

#

i want to one shot with force greatsword

lofty sable
#

^

spice veldt
#

it's the closest analog that we'll have for a long long time

feral verge
#

dont say that

wide tiger
#

Heavy force sword pleeeeease

feral verge
#

force greatsword is coming to a warhammer 40k darktide near you later this march

#

fatshark told me

wide tiger
#

is that what they told you, next march?

#

did they tell you what year? 😛

viral solstice
#

the rashad is the force axe

feral verge
#

you heard me

viral solstice
#

thats why its hitboxes are so weird

#

it hits enemies in their souls

#

keep it quiet

wide tiger
#

too bad souls arent weakspots :p

steel flame
#

Or next next week

cyan notch
#

rashid pokiLuL

steel flame
#

Or next next next next next week

viral solstice
#

of the turbulent winds

ember hornet
#

does anyone use warp unleashed

viral solstice
#

me

steel flame
#

It's nice

viral solstice
#

it fucks especially with voidstrike

ember hornet
#

maybe good with voidstrike and the quell peril blessing?

spice veldt
#

i use it with a trauma + force sword build

ember hornet
#

yeah I guess the peril resist isn't all that necessary

viral solstice
#

yee if ur using warp flurry transfer peril

feral verge
#

peril resist is the dumpstat

viral solstice
#

the peril resist is pointless

ember hornet
#

voidstrike is the most fun so far so I'll probably try that out

steel flame
#

Wrack and ruin is really really good now too. Only having to hit elites instead of kill is such a massive buff it's hard to overstate

viral solstice
#

and it also buffs ur force sword damage too

#

like the lights and specials

ember hornet
#

I am a force sword gamer

viral solstice
#

so it can do some decent damagios

wide tiger
#

I'd really like them to classify the force sword special as BB, and trigger BB effects

#

wrack and ruin, warp charge generation, etc

viral solstice
#

nono it should be nb

#

nose burst

feral verge
#

i've been saying that since day 1

viral solstice
#

it hits em in da nose

#

schnozzer

#

gunR 👃

echo turtle
#

Only tier 3s and the perk isn’t what I need yet but I am pumped on this

viral solstice
#

because that force sword has burn on crit

#

thats not a one shot weapon

ember hornet
#

oh

viral solstice
#

if i had slaughterer

steel flame
viral solstice
#

it would be doing 75% more damage or whatever

echo turtle
#

yeah

feral verge
#

force duelling sword too

wide tiger
feral verge
#

need that

viral solstice
#

thats just high peril w/ a force sword that has the %power w/ peril blessing

wide tiger
#

why not

echo turtle
#

and remember that power applies to soul burn

viral solstice
#

that stacks 4x

ember hornet
#

why doesn't warp unleashed buff BB tho

viral solstice
#

well then everybody would think it was good and take it

#

but instead ppl who dont use voidstrike have to say that if u take warp unleashed its bad

#

outrageous

ember hornet
#

oh sorry that might let me BB something before the vet kills it

echo turtle
#

So, do soulburn kills proc the swords slaughterer?

steel flame
feral verge
#

is this the fit?

wide tiger
#

I mean the old warp unleashed was pretty bad lol

viral solstice
#

not for voidstrike

#

because u literally didnt need peril quell with transfer peril

ember hornet
#

I just got my psyker to level 30 lol

viral solstice
#

if u took the peril resist it was literally pointless

#

u were just leaving damage on the table

ember hornet
#

seems totally fine in damnation, BB better than I expected overall

wide tiger
#

sure, but taking a talent due to lack of any other meaningful choice doesnt make it good

#

it makes it less bad

viral solstice
#

i mean its more that i t was obviously better

#

than the p eril res talent

#

if u were using voidstrike

#

actually it did let u hit some breakpoints

#

(assuming ur voidstrike had the right blessings)

spice veldt
viral solstice
#

but theres some like weird meme about how damage increases dont matter unless they hit breakpoints, except damage increases on voidstrike hit a fucking metric shit tonne of breakpoints because it has variable charge, weak point and body shot hits and its damage is exactly in the realm of all these enemies that have like 300-1k hp

#

so i basically contracted brain lurgy and now im dead

ember hornet
#

oh I didn't even think about slaughterer making the pushes funny on FS

wide tiger
#

does it increase the stagger amount? the range?

viral solstice
#

power = damage, stagger and cleave

#

pushes apply stagger so it boost da stagger

ember hornet
#

power increases stagger yeah

wide tiger
#

i mean push doesnt do damage so just the stagger then

ember hornet
#

you should see pushes with +75% power and +150% impact on the hammer lol

#

granted FS push is incredible

steel flame
ember hornet
#

the special actually kills mutants which is cool

echo turtle
#

being able@to dps at range is always preferred

viral solstice
#

i mean i tried to fs special a plogryn and then as i did it i was like ha ur boutta get danced ho then i couldnt dodge and i was like fk if only i could have foreseen dis outcome

#

in conclusion

#

france

echo turtle
#

I will say this, my new FS can 1 hit a mutie without a weakspot strike on T5 and thats cool

viral solstice
#

dam the old FS just dumped like that

ember hornet
#

ranged always preferred? sounds like someone that's never played zealot

steel flame
#

It does. But as much as I want FS special to trigger bb effects it would be incredibly busted and impossible to balance

echo turtle
#

zealot is ny secondary

cyan notch
echo turtle
#

I ply psyker and alt a lot

viral solstice
#

lazorr that force sword in my crusher clip is 63 damage off one shotting a mutie

#

if i had maniac damage instead of 5% crit it would

viral solstice
#

and that force sword doesnt have slaughterer

echo turtle
#

slaughterer is BiS tho

viral solstice
#

so if u stack up slaughterer, run the peril power thingy, get a good fs roll w/ high peril and warp unleashed, and have the right damage multis

echo turtle
#

it allows you to actually kill shit

viral solstice
#

u gon be swordin some forces

echo turtle
#

I had 0 slaughterer stacks and can 1 hit a mutie

steel flame
ember hornet
#

I'm gonna make a FS that one shots muties, it's in my DNA