I mean does the 10% damage actually hit any breakpoints?
#psyker-class
summer prairie
you need to charge less on a voidstrike, I guess
forest coral
They’ve clearly done kerillian and Bardin feats before so I can’t see why they can’t do something with psyker ones
olive ember
yeah but again I bring up warp flurry, which makes force weapon redundant
forest coral
Or bounty hunter playstyle on psyker would be lit
olive ember
and transfer peril even counteracts force weapon
so basically is the extra 10% damage worth it over peril resist
is what it boils down to
cyan notch
I mean does the 10% damage actually hit any breakpoints?
yea u can 1 heavy dreg ragers with no stacks of anything
manic halo
That peril resist is always worth it to me
I feel naked without it
And my warp battery
forest coral
I haven’t used peril resist in so long
manic halo
I like having the ability to do so many BB with it
forest coral
I unno, does force weapon actually hit anything
olive ember
I admittedly don't use voidstrike but peril resist is meta on surge and purge atleast
forest coral
in terms of breakpoints
manic halo
With quicken or whatever it’s cLled
forest coral
Cause my monkey brain is like more damage go brrr
royal granite
yeah i just manage my peril with the cooldown reduction on F feat
manic halo
Screw you I love that shit
It’s that bad
It probably should do something else but I really don’t know what
olive ember
I mean the problem is that the synergy is kinda shit
Cuz in order to rly benefit from the CDR you need consistent warp charge upkeep
manic halo
Ye
olive ember
Which would mean running stuff like communion and flayer
But then you are missing out on aura etc.
manic halo
Anyways auto pistols psyker master race is real
royal granite
Cuz in order to rly benefit from the CDR you need consistent warp charge upkeep
not that one
rocky cedar
Anyways auto pistols psyker master race is real
Yo we have another convert?
royal granite
this one
manic halo
Oh I have never used that
manic halo
Never had a psyker that uses it either haha
olive ember
Tbh that’s the only column in the damn kit where all 3 are decent
feral verge
I use it
rocky cedar
Just read the patch notes
manic halo
Zealots ult recharges quick enough
rocky cedar
Big LOL
olive ember
I use it depending on build
royal granite
i don't care about warp charges and lacerations doesn't come up often enough for it to feel super worth it
olive ember
Communion gives free warp charges, aura gives CDR, and CL increases DPS
royal granite
and F doesn't interrupt charging void strike so it lets you keep flurry going for longer
forest coral
I love me warp stacks
olive ember
So all 3 are good it just depends on what you value
forest coral
Ye sinners.
feral verge
I only use warp battery so I can one shot bb dogs
How
forest coral
feral verge
I can't 1 shot them with warp battery
manic halo
Dogs fear me and my 6 warp charges
feral verge
In damnation
feral verge
They have 1 HP left
olive ember
Pretty sweet buffs we got eh
We got a net nerf btw
manic halo
Eh I think these buffs are probably a set up for stuff they add next patch anyways
olive ember
Dunno if you checked the bug fixes again
feral crater
They really want us to use wrack and ruin...
royal granite
Pretty sweet buffs we got eh
you get to do 8 more damage to a gunner what's not to love
rocky cedar
We got a net nerf btw
Wait how?
rocky cedar
Nothing in patch notes I could see looked like a nerf
royal granite
wait the tooltip hasn't updated
olive ember
Apparently doing too much damage to maniac
royal granite
lol
manic halo
Tf does wrack and ruin do again
olive ember
So now antax is noticeably worse against ragers and mutants
forest coral
Neither
olive ember
Ain’t a nerf to my FS using ass either XD
royal granite
FS got buffed technically
rocky cedar
Dagger still fucks shit up I'm good
forest coral
Same
royal granite
i mean, 5% more damage? damn
olive ember
FS got buffed technically
How?
forest coral
Chainsword, fs, duelling sword, knife
olive ember
I don’t use force weapon
forest coral
fs eating good this patch tho
rocky cedar
But seriously FS stop trying to save wrack and ruin
olive ember
Unless the 5% from something else
rocky cedar
Chainsword, fs, duelling sword, knife
Your taste is superb
manic halo
Real Psykers use the melee attack on staff
ornate hamlet
They really want us to use wrack and ruin...
No they don't
manic halo
And no thing else
manic halo
If you do your a poser
olive ember
I’m not using that shit feat force unleashed
forest coral
Your taste is superb
olive ember
I’d rather use wrack and ruin
royal granite
triggering kinetic flayer with your staff bonk is peak psyker melee
olive ember
Unironically
manic halo
What’s wrack and ruin again
olive ember
Atleast then I can kill something when I BB packs of gunners
forest coral
triggering kinetic flayer with your staff bonk is peak psyker melee
Emotional damage
ornate hamlet
BB Elite/Special
manic halo
Ah ok
feral crater
No they don't
consecutive buffs though... Even if it's still shit XD
manic halo
I would use that if my vets didn’t kill them first
ornate hamlet
But 3 stacks is
royal granite
i wonder if the damage buff affects staff melee
royal granite
i'm not going to test it
ornate hamlet
It'll kill like 5 bucketheads
royal granite
but it would be funny if it did
olive ember
consecutive buffs though... Even if it's still shit XD
On perks no one will use… so realistically it doesn’t affect players at all
ornate hamlet
INSANE
feral crater
watch them buff it again XD
forest coral
Yeah
olive ember
watch them buff it again XD
“Wrack and ruin applies 12 stacks of Soulblaze to all enemies in 50m”
Ez buff
forest coral
I want it replaced to benefit guns but better
royal granite
it's stupid how many completely dud feats we have
ornate hamlet
“Wrack and ruin applies 12 stacks of Soulblaze to all enemies in 50m”
I'd potentially use this
Maybe
feral crater
Wrack and ruin activates on starting, quarter, half, 3 quarters and full charge BB XD
manic halo
They should buff the range of the perils explosion
ornate hamlet
manic halo
Just because
royal granite
if wrack and ruin triggered on any kill you could potentially use it for light horde clear
olive ember
Just because
Make it launch teammates while you are at it
ornate hamlet
So you can one-shot bosses
royal granite
or they could make wrack and ruin put burn stacks on targets BB didn't oneshot, that'd be good too
rocky cedar
W&R is one too many soulblaze feats in the tree
ornate hamlet
Ha
feral crater
if wrack and ruin triggered on any kill you could potentially use it for light h...
I personally prefer it being a buff to BB coz BB just feels lackluster. But it must be strong enough...
manic halo
Look if wrack and ruin even worked on just ranged scabs
rocky cedar
Seriously yeet it
ornate hamlet
W&R is one too many soulblaze feats in the tree
There's only three
And only one is good
rocky cedar
And replace with something that actually adds build variety
ornate hamlet
I think making Soulblaze available to all builds would be more fun
rocky cedar
There's only three
Yeah more than needed frankly
ornate hamlet
Wrack and Ruin could be on crit, or something else.
royal granite
psyker jumpscare
ornate hamlet
That's not even a scare
That's like
Someone made that
And thought it was worth
royal granite
oh i need to favourite that
ornate hamlet
Compared to any other feat
Maybe if you put
MiM, Wreck and Ruin and the last soulblaze one
In the same tier
I'd run MiM
feral crater
😄
ornate hamlet
Actually I'd definintely run MiM
feral crater
Why not combine the 3 into 1 feat instead
royal granite
this tier is so fucking wack
forest coral
Kinetic deflection should just be default for psyker
royal granite
slightly faster movement while quelling, the smallest increase in effective toughness (with conditions), or make your block one of the best blocks in the game
hmm
manic halo
Bro I can’t live without the better quell movement
royal granite
i don't need peril resistance to manage peril, i am simply Good At Resource Management
i play frostpunk endless mode for fun
manic halo
That shits my crutch
ornate hamlet
Have you considered using a staff
Idk why staffs get to quell at higher movespeed than hands
royal granite
staffs are basically a crutch
manic halo
I like seeing my hands
cyan notch
peril resist is just so u can do way more attacks before needing to quell (less downtime)
manic halo
staffs are basically a crutch
Yeah knife and laz pistols is the only correct way to play psyker
ornate hamlet
Laspistol force shove buff when
How can it cost
10% peril
And take stamina
And not work on flak
It's so stupid
royal granite
i think they actually buffed the laspistol push recently
ornate hamlet
It'll knock ragers out of their combo
But not flak ragers
And it stuns horde
But not flak horde
So its like
rocky cedar
Apparently it's pretty long range and goes through walls
royal granite
the laspistol push is actually kinda cool, i wish more guns had unique psyker specials
rocky cedar
So there's that
rocky cedar
But yeah not working on flak is a head scratcher
royal granite
imagine if the revolver had the surge staff as an alt fire
stuck bridge
oh
ornate hamlet
That's stupid
ornate hamlet
Gold star
royal granite
post your drip
stuck bridge
rocky cedar
I've had that god damn yellow mark since beta
royal granite
same
rocky cedar
Pisses me off
stuck bridge
its driving me nuts
rocky cedar
And now I have one for my ranged weapon slot
Despite having scrolled over every single ranged weapon
The fuck fatshark
manic halo
I've had that god damn yellow mark since beta
No no think of it this way
manic halo
That’s your exclusive beta cosmetic
Your gold star
Not the helmet that literally calls you a beta for wearing it
stuck bridge
i wish some of the staves got touched up
royal granite
what like visually?
stuck bridge
nah balance wise just something interesting
royal granite
you should come to norway, we have great staves
royal granite
we got entire churches for our staves
royal granite
love to go to australia and get eaten by a spider the size of a human infant
uneven drift
I'm an Australian spider, can confirm.
manic halo
I was the infant can confirm
Anyways people overhype the wild life here it’s not that scary
rocky cedar
It's not the spiders that will kill you in Aus it's our crippling debt per capita
Highest in the world last I checked
manic halo
It's not the spiders that will kill you in Aus it's our crippling debt per capit...
AUSSIE NUMBER ONE 🇦🇺
rocky cedar
Most of us would rather fight a room full of spiders than deal with an average mortgage
royal granite
and then there's the season where birds just divebomb you for no reason
the invisibly tiny box jellyfish that stings you and makes it hurt so bad you want to die
uneven drift
Most of us would rather fight a room full of spiders than deal with an average m...
Tell it to people in Russia who took mortgage for 70 years
royal granite
love that one
lethal folio
Wrack&Ruin isn't terrible.
Bear in mind 6 stacks will also kill many elites if you have other buffs.
safe crystal
Now add in the horde moving forward while the crusher stays in stagger
ornate hamlet
Wrack&Ruin isn't terrible.
Now turn on the AI, and do it in the middle of a fight with enemies running all around
You'll likely get 3 stacks from starting a fight
Then that enemy is staggered
The rest run at you
royal granite
maybe with kinetic barrage
ornate hamlet
Or you one-shot the enemy and there's no second elite
forest coral
AUSSIE NUMBER ONE 🇦🇺
Yay another aussie
lethal folio
It's not troubling, I've done brainburst only runs before.
forest coral
lethal folio
Hordes with no elites aren't a problem.
royal granite
wait a second
wrack and ruin is supposed to apply when you KILL
not just from hitting
ornate hamlet
No
lethal folio
It's just a reasonable alternative to the other tiers now.
royal granite
is it bugged?
lethal folio
That changed a few weeks ago.
ornate hamlet
But no one uses it
safe crystal
Tooltip not updated, is all
ornate hamlet
It is updated
royal granite
OBESEFISH
safe crystal
Is it?
royal granite
current tooltip
royal granite
ok
summer prairie
I think people overrate 2-2 a bit. The same people may also not care about the warp resistance stat on their staff
royal granite
so it's fixed for thee but not for me
lethal folio
I am on experimental build.
ornate hamlet
Did they?
rocky cedar
Wait what staff?
safe crystal
Probably trauma or void, 5-15 to 10-25% on 2-1 talent
inland sand
Trauma wants reduced Peril so it can actually use warp flurry
ornate hamlet
All staves do great with reduced peril but more damage is more damage
safe crystal
Yup, wrack and ruin is now showing on hit after the patch
lethal folio
I was a Warp Unleashed player before.
inland sand
I haven't got those blessings for Trauma yet so just using the ol' warp flurry and rending shockwave
lethal folio
More damage good.
viral solstice
yeah i mean what else do u take there
royal granite
if you want to get good at managing peril i recommend playing frostpunk and trying to keep the generator on overdrive as much as possible
viral solstice
i took wrack and ruin because its funny sometimes
but that was as far as it went
if u take peril resist
u a busta
peril is for snorting
u wanna max it
ornate hamlet
Probably not
And you mean it not being a not warp attack right?
Since it counts as a non-warp attack
safe crystal
Yeah, it not being a warp attack
ornate hamlet
Exactly
safe crystal
We're just throwing math equations at the poor ogryn enemies
Makes their brain go boom
royal granite
start explaining the concept of 7
forest coral
Head implosion
royal granite
i love ogryns
i love the loading animation where they count their fingers, lose track and start over
forest coral
Yes, such good bois
safe crystal
Nothing for the blessings that are broken? Oh boy, what a thrilling patch
cyan notch
is all or nothing 20% max or 5%
cyan notch
viral solstice
it does say OR nothing
cyan notch
nothing or nothing
twilit flicker
Something
cyan notch
im gonna keep that antax and then when they change cleave to finesse im gonna be pogging irl
ornate hamlet
im gonna keep that antax and then when they change cleave to finesse im gonna be...
Watch it be a literal nerf
They make it give less attack speed unless you have 100% then you have what's default now
And you can't get 100%
safe crystal
Hadron gave me this last week, im trying to get back into using FS more now
inland sand
is Soul Blaze tick damage affected by Warp Unleashed?
ornate hamlet
If 3-3 buffs it then it shouldn't be warp
summer prairie
Yes
safe crystal
I mean, you'd think brain burst is warp instead of confusing the enemy with wacky hand movements
safe crystal
No
summer prairie
Maybe
safe crystal
It does roughly 90 damage
twilit flicker
What do you guys think will the in the comlink this week? Last week they said it would be a small patch and more details about a larger patch by the end of march.
twilit flicker
Im sure it will be something about those bosses in the creature spawner, but you cant really say
Ill take anything, even a weapon for non-psykers as long as its "content", a new level for example, or new blessings.
steel flame
Weird question. Is kinetic Flayer proc chance get modified in any way by a weapons crit chance? Because it certainly feels like it. Stuff like voidstaff or trauma, melee, or some of the other guns seem to fall in the 10% proc chance. But when I use my laspistol with it's 25% crit chance I can proc Kf near instantly after it comes off cool down in 1 or 2 shots
It might just be my imagination but Its happened for long enough that I thought I would ask anyway
summer prairie
I think I saw a bugreport suggesting void doesn't proc it
But that's probably wrong
I think it's just the fire rate
And confirmation bias
steel flame
There is Reason I'm asking. Need to confirm I am indeed hallucinating
It probably is just the fire rate but weird shit has happened before
cyan notch
I think I saw a bugreport suggesting void doesn't proc it
nah it definitely does
leaden thunder
warp unleashed seems like a nice buff
(that's the increased force weapon damage right)
safe crystal
Yup, thats the one. I might take that if i decide to play void strike, but i'd still use warp resist on every other stave
summer prairie
The other two are probably better with surge
viral solstice
warp unleashed for strike voider supremos
safe crystal
Wrack and ruin still kinda bad
solid lake
Now kills chaff if you pop two elites on Damnation though
safe crystal
Sure, but so do every stave other than surge
leaden thunder
I mean
safe crystal
In less time
summer prairie
Then it's too strong
leaden thunder
is it really
summer prairie
Yes
leaden thunder
I disagree but w/e it's still shite rn
safe crystal
It would be a slower purgatus with more theoretical range, less aoe, wouldnt exactly call that too strong
viral solstice
i mean
summer prairie
If it's anywhere close to being as good as purg on our grenade, it's too strong
steel flame
Are there patch notes for experimental anywhere?
viral solstice
its borderline usable
summer prairie
With barrage you delete most of the horde in 3 seconds, unlimited range
If it was any target
Plus it has no cap so it would also delete all elites within the radius and you'd also have kinetic procs
steel flame
It really do need to be any target
cyan notch
does it really tho
rocky cedar
Just yeet it
Don't try and save it
It's pointless
And meh in concept to begin with
cyan notch
itd be the best monster dps lmao
kinetic barrage just chunking
well except thunder hammer stuff
fringe tangle
Is warp unleashed more noticeable now?
summer prairie
31 stacks isn't that amazing boss DPS. With BB damage in addition to that, sure
steel flame
Oh wow a whole 5% power
fringe tangle
<:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
oof, I don't see why they haven't buffed that one lol.
safe crystal
<:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Misleading tooltip, it goes up to 20%. Stacks similarly to warp nexus
steel flame
AMAZING TIER 4 BLESSING GUYS
rocky cedar
Wait what?
safe crystal
Up to 4 stacks
rocky cedar
All or nothing stacks to 20%?
safe crystal
Not sure about that one
leaden thunder
at 97% peril yeah
rocky cedar
Oh read wrong
safe crystal
But unstable goes to 4 stacks
rocky cedar
My bad
steel flame
Ok........then say up to 20% why is this so fing hard
fringe tangle
So unstable power isn't useless on my force sword?
safe crystal
Its not great, but not THAT bad
rocky cedar
I still think intentionally sitting at high peril is a pretty poor idea but whatever
safe crystal
Yep, the problem is where the stacks come in
safe crystal
You're usually only getting 10%
fringe tangle
They should probably change how it works tbh. Should give +1% power per 2 peril or something.
cyan notch
its decent if youre spamming fs specials at 100%
steel flame
I swear to God FATSHARK does this shit on purpose just to be confusing
obtuse crypt
i mean i can say fuck deflector and throw it on my slaughterer force sword for some dumb dmaage 
safe crystal
I'd run uncanny if you want more damage tbh
Uncanny + slaughterer
Speaking of which, is there a T4 uncanny?
fringe tangle
My FS looks like this atm. I would like a higher tier deflector blessing though.
leaden thunder
next week^tm
steel flame
Lol
fringe tangle
Yeah Quicken is kind of useless. Maybe they should make it increase our attack speed as well as give the cooldown reduction. Like +5% attack speed for each warp charge would be nice.
make the buff last like 10 seconds
leaden thunder
or just like make it not consume charges
obtuse crypt
i wish mind in motion would give you speed buffs across any action with warp related stuff tbh, like bracing with staffs or actions with force swords
fringe tangle
or just like make it not consume charges
That would be a good choice as well.
leaden thunder
ab doesn't
fringe tangle
Mind in motion is almost as bad as taking nothing.
steel flame
Yeah Quicken is kind of useless. Maybe they should make it increase our attack s...
Psykinetic aura plus barrage completely invalidates any reason why you would want to run quicken
obtuse crypt
Mind in motion is almost as bad as taking nothing.
exactly 
wish any of those feats in that line was worth it over kinetic deflection
fringe tangle
Maybe Mind In Motion should double passive quell speed in addition to the nothing it does now.
obtuse crypt
^ that'd make it great with quietude and worth grabbing
summer prairie
Make it so you can also move at full speed while charging BB
fringe tangle
That could be pretty cool.
steel flame
Only thing Mind in motion even ok at rn is making you more mobile with fire staff but kinetic shield is just so much better than being able to walk faster with quell
fringe tangle
Yeah. Being able to take a few gunshots is more useful then a bit more mobility.
true shadow
i just want deflector to work on revives again
steel flame
Amen
royal granite
that was such a rude nerf
true shadow
i was reminded of how fucking atrocious it is multiple times today trying to save people in bad spots
and then reminded again with today's minor patch
true shadow
because
Lorenz Mk V Kickback - Expandable
Melee Power Bonus now also affects your regular melee weapon, not just the Special Action melee attack. The bonus values have been tuned down to account for this, and the duration has been lowered slightly (4s → 3.5s).
purely support oriented feature, does not make psykers score better in any way
true shadow
so now a blessing is affecting other weapons again on purpose (tm)
so why not bring deflector back to revives :)
:) : )
: )
Please.
royal granite
did they like put someone in charge of psyker balance who just doesn't like psykers?
fringe tangle
Heck, make deflector generate a bubble shield while reviving people
Although in all seriousness that could be a cool ability for a future Psyker Career. Maybe it could work like the Warrior Priest bubble shield.
royal granite
a bubble shield was in the datamine from a while back i think
or at least there were some names that implied a bubble shield
fringe tangle
Oooo, nice.
royal granite
some kind of barrier oriented psyker or something
idr, months since i read the datamine
rocky cedar
It was for the data mined Zealot class wasn't it?
fringe tangle
I hope it comes to the game, I like playing Warrior Priest and would like something similar for DT.
royal granite
oh was it? never mind then
rocky cedar
Which makes sense since it's a warrior priest copy paste
true shadow
It was for the data mined Zealot class wasn't it?
no
rocky cedar
Ok guess I'm misremembering then
royal granite
well the 40k equivalent of a witch finder is a hereticus inquisitor, which is a number of orders of magnitude above our power level lol
true shadow
psyker's wip second class is currently named protectorate and has a shield instead of a warp blast for its F
rocky cedar
Ah ok
royal granite
same drip though
true shadow
one of the zealot classes has a relic book that i dont remember but think it had a shield too
rocky cedar
Yeah that's probably what I'm thinking of
true shadow
just different
rocky cedar
I remember thinking the Zealot one sounded very warrior priest inspired
fringe tangle
cool.
true shadow
i just wish we had content instead of whinging about crafting
maybe we'd have seen them by now
but people are desperate for Muh Builds before a game is even close to sunset and balance keeps changing 😆
echo turtle
Yeah, I am gonna start farming up some mk2s and 7s now that I have 3 379 rated mk5s
it will show in the tables
royal granite
I remember thinking the Zealot one sounded very warrior priest inspired
so in 40k, the priesthood is strictly prohibited from maintaining a standing military (though the specific wording is that they aren't allowed "men under arms", so that's why they have the bolter nuns), but they are allowed to levy faithful followers into an improvised militia in times of trouble
so that's kinda what the zealot is
true shadow
frateris militia yes
fringe tangle
Yeah, the lack of classes is a major issue. There's not much build variety with 4 classes vs 15 (or 19 currently) that VT2 has.
royal granite
SIENNA FOURTH CLASS WHEN
fringe tangle
It is possible but dangerous for humans to use different winds.
fringe tangle
Dark Sienna class.
royal granite
which is like high magic in that it uses all the winds, but WAY more dangerous
true shadow
i'm going to sleep now. i just want more content and will be quite sad if there's not even a new weapon or something in the big march patch
idle bay
Lore of Scaven Sienna class yes-yes!
fringe tangle
i'm going to sleep now. i just want more content and will be quite sad if there'...
Ok, goodnight.
safe crystal
Master vigilant seems the most likely, if we take the mini map pack into account
royal granite
the what
fringe tangle
A witch hunter for the mages iirc
true shadow
No.
safe crystal
Anyways, thats my guess on the class. I might well be wrong, but i doubt its going to be a different wind, sadly
Its hard enough to control one
royal granite
there's always dark magic
we could also get an alt timeline sienna who did a different wind
fringe tangle
we could also get an alt timeline sienna who did a different wind
That would probably be the easiest way for it to make sense.
fringe tangle
Ice wizard would be a funny twist.
royal granite
i thought sienna was from tilea
forest coral
Your firesword instead just splashes the rats
royal granite
probably not actually since she doesn't have a hilariously racist accent
frail berry
Easiest way to get the "ranged kills" contract, just take a gun?
royal granite
they don't have to be your kills
frail berry
I swore that was the case before last patch but then they started to roll in slower, must just my mind playing tricks
ornate hamlet
Sometimes its inconsistent
royal granite
well idk, i run void strike
forest coral
Use purg staff and it should be fairly quick
cyan notch
ratio tbh
floral solstice
i blame kimo and blood
royal granite
i just completed a game and my weeklies didnt progress
they sometimes don't update right away
floral solstice
beta game
forest coral
i blame kimo and blood
Ratio
floral solstice
1 cup water 1.25 cup rice
royal granite
1 cup rice 1.5 cup water
royal granite
i thought it was half again as much water
leaden thunder
depends on the type of rice iirc
floral solstice
depends on rice
leaden thunder
brown rice needs more
royal granite
oh i see
floral solstice
we use a mix of jasmine and japanese
floral solstice
just dont watch the BBC video about fried rice
feral crater
Hope it's a different wind tbh.
Tzeentch?
maiden wolf
🍚
grizzled jasper
🍙
fringe tangle
🌾
maiden wolf
My GF suggest y'all try donabe rice.
warm spindle
warp unleashed perk is 10-25% now
strange wigeon
fuck, I'm still at work, how does the wrack and ruin buff feel?
forest coral
fuck, I'm still at work, how does the wrack and ruin buff feel?
From being completely useless to slightly less completely useless
river sand
well the 4m radius is more than the trauma epicenter so its not that small
river sand
yeah so not that small
do you think the warp unleashed dmg bonus is worth the lower spammability you get by missing inner tranq ?
summer prairie
Tranq doesn't affect spammability really
river sand
36% less peril is quite an effect
summer prairie
Once you are at high peril it's all the same
It mostly matters when you go from 0 to 100 or if you usually quell all the way down
river sand
but with 6 stacks and inner tranq you can endlessly spam void even without horde. so you dont lose your warp flurry
my last game with unleashed i quite often had to quell when no that much enemies were there and losing flurry is shit
summer prairie
Can probably do that with T4 and high warp resistance roll
Flurry lowers charging costs too
floral solstice
Not forgiven
sir you're not asian
forest coral
Not forgiven regardless
leaden thunder
Yea Obviously, I got more hours in this game than you, I got more games played and finished in this game than you do. And I've been playing Damnation only since the game released. I got all characters at 30, I've used all weapons and talked to multiple mains of said weapons about their pros and cons. And would you guess it? NO ONE PLAYS RIFTHAVEN MKII PURGATUS FORCE STAFF IN HI-INT DAMNATION
Do you know why? Obviously not? Because you probably have a skill issue of your own since you decided to use one of the current worst weapons available for the Psyker the PuRgAtUs
You are welcome trash, stay in the garbage bin where you belong
river sand
with t4 flurry and 6 stacks inner tranq a full charged is like 5-6 peril so you can endlessly spam
forest coral
A gift from zealot chat
safe crystal
Damn, hes right though. The meta is claw sword and autogun with this talent tree
viral solstice
with voidstrike its obviously better
just cos of transfer peril
plus u hit some breakpoints
left click 2 shots on scab gunners eg
tho my vs with flurry 4 is only 71% damage so probs lets u hit that at 50% peril or something if u got a better dmg roll instead of 90+
still hearth
Flurry lowers charging costs too
It do?
river sand
thats mine atm
still hearth
I need me one like that
still hearth
I imagine it just spend up the cost
But that'd make too much sense
T4 Flurry being 50% cost reduction on top is pretty baller
river sand
t4 flurry + t4 transfer peril brings you at 0 peril cost with 6 stacks inner tranq even if you just hit one head
river sand
so your flurry never falls off cause you need to vent
floral solstice
@cyan notch what happened https://streamable.com/ruyj6w
river sand
without tranq its 10/11 peril for full charge at max flurry
i like it way more than purg
floral solstice
<@283547305758687232> what happened https://streamable.com/ruyj6w
@forest coral this is what you're missing out on, i totally wont do this to you
summer prairie
You'll usually hit more than one head anyway
forest coral
<@173395742482759680> this is what you're missing out on, i totally wont do this...
Soon
floral solstice
i did the same thing to him this morning
i wonder if he'll still play with me
lol
forest coral
@cyan notch do u forgive
viral solstice
even without the peril res
u basically never need to manually quell when in a big fite
lilac tapir
btw interesting shop interaction after patch - I got a purple item from Melk last night and today it's upgraded to orange in the shop - however it shows as purchased and I cannot buy it again as orange, while the item from last night remains purple in my inventory 🙂
floral solstice
my weekly contracts weren't progressing earlier, but i havent tried reconnecting yet
maybe patch broke milkman a little
lilac tapir
maybe - also the stat distribution changed on the item, the orange one that's currently in the shop is worse and it rolled bad 2nd blessing, so I'm happy I got it last night when it was still purple
I wish I had enough mats to roll it to orange to check if it's going to roll the same 2nd blessing
it would be interesting to see if blessings are randomized when you upgrade the item or the game "chooses" what future blessings the item is going to have when the item is "created"
strange wigeon
are the kill in melee/ranged bugged or do they count just your kills now? Progressing at a snail's pace for me
lilac tapir
are the kill in melee/ranged bugged or do they count just your kills now? Progre...
oh no... I enjoyed getting the melee kills count without having to actually melee on purpose....
supple skiff
hmm warp unleashed buff eh
wide tiger
Well... were the psyker buffs everything you guys dreamed of? :p
supple skiff
just when I started using inner tranq again lol
floral solstice
Well... were the psyker buffs everything you guys dreamed of? :p
well it confirmed that the devs dont know what to do with wrack and ruin
just replace the whole thing i say
supple skiff
Well... were the psyker buffs everything you guys dreamed of? :p
cant speak for everyone but making it so that warp flurry works on void properly was I wanted apparently
floral solstice
replace wrack and motion feats and give us gun feats ty
supple skiff
be kinda useless on traume rmb with its peril generation
ornate hamlet
Supposedly flurry is a discount
wide tiger
cant speak for everyone but making it so that warp flurry works on void properly...
flurry was working on void before the patch
supple skiff
sort of worked before the patch, would reduce charge time but now it actually scales properly
spice veldt
flurry works on trauma
supple skiff
with t4 flurry on my void staff and max stacks a full charge takes a little less than a second
ornate hamlet
flurry works on trauma
Wasn't there an issue with some animation and stuff making it less of a benefit?
spice veldt
and it lowers the peril generation of the trauma
I think people were talking about Purg and surge
not traum
spice veldt
I know for a fact that it works for trauma though
supple skiff
with the peril gen reduction from the reduces charge timer, quell on hit, warp battery and inner tranq I can spam max charge blasts for a while assuming I have targetss
cyan notch
<@283547305758687232> do u forgive
absolutely not
supple skiff
which sounds like a lot of preconditions, cause it is, but the payyoff is massive
forest coral
@floral solstice not forgiven unfortunately
ornate hamlet
I might have to run the 4% chance to get stacks
Just to keep my Voidstrike up all the time
wide tiger
wait did savage sweep get nerfed into the ground? am i reading that right
leaden thunder
Idon't think so?
ornate hamlet
I'm pretty sure
That they used the wrong blessing name
And it was meant to be Rampage
ornate hamlet
Or someone just had a brainfart
wide tiger
i read it weird
ornate hamlet
wide tiger
nvm,
ornate hamlet
Because T4 Savage Sweep is 200%
On any weapon I know
So who knows what is going on there
supple skiff
I might have to run the 4% chance to get stacks
I run psyk aura in that tree with kinetic barage at 30. I find you can keep your stacks on decently with a little active BBing plus retaining some decent special deleting power
ornate hamlet
Yeah
But I don't want to BB
I want to hold my staff
At full charge
Constantly
supple skiff
lol fair
cyan notch
i held my staff at full charge last night
cyan notch
what is the issue?
supple skiff
I unironically like to BB as much as I can without sandbagging
cyan notch
i do it all the time
supple skiff
but I think I might be in the minority on that one
wide tiger
uh oh "Combat Axes dealt incorrect damage vs Maniac on some light attacks."
supple skiff
F
ornate hamlet
I usually BB a lot
Oh yeah Combat Axes absolutely suck against maniac now
Like hard bad against them
supple skiff
all roads leading to force sword
ornate hamlet
I'll just use Dueling Sword for run fast
pliant token
Did the combat axe change affect heavy and push attacks as well?
leaden thunder
no
pliant token
I know the notes say it was for light attacks.
lucid terrace
I'll just use Dueling Sword for run fast
I use it for dodge
leaden thunder
they where always bad against maniac on those
lucid terrace
Dodge is funny
ornate hamlet
Dodge is funny
Heavy on the combat axes isn't garbage against maniac but light
Did like
So much damage
And they're way faster
You could splat mutants before they turn around
cyan notch
gleaming comet
Does the buff to the force weapon talent make any new BB breakpoints accessible?
spice veldt
oh shit they buffed warp unleashed?
spice veldt
WOOOOO
gleaming comet
Does this allow for any new BB breakpoints tho?
spice veldt
warp unleashed doesn't affect BB
wide tiger
I mean i could take out a t5 mutant in 4~5 lights with my antax
spice veldt
only force weapons
wide tiger
guessing thats over
summer prairie
Pretty good for FS special breakpoints
long wharf
meh patch is meh
gleaming comet
warp unleashed doesn't affect BB
For some reason I thought it did, mb
Thought there was some discussion of using it with CL to hit breakpoints on high diffs
spice veldt
you never know with fatshark's acuity for writing descriptions
gleaming comet
Ye
wide tiger
did they fix vicious slice? 😛
hot tulip
patch is mid
ornate hamlet
did they fix vicious slice? 😛
Fixed Vicious Slice: It now properly says Impact instead of Damage :>
wide tiger
Very good.
leaden thunder
Improved quality of several localized texts.
Resolved a few miscellaneous typos found in some texts throughout the game.
Further improved clarity on some items through their texts.
wide tiger
When i think impact i definitely associate it with the word slice
hot tulip
soulblaze is still ass
ornate hamlet
Ur still ass
cyan notch
yea easier to 1 shot stuff with fs special
wide tiger
"Fixed an issue that could cause a server and/or client crash by successfully dodging 16 attacks in a row." Force sword buff!
spice veldt
as if force sword users can dodge properly
lucid terrace
I sure can’t
hot tulip
Emperor’s Gift for Heresy and Damnation missions will now see an increase in the Sanctity (rarity) of the item gifted. At Level 30, players who play at Heresy will no longer see a Redeemed (green) item. This applies to Weapons and Curios.
Massive W
lucid terrace
Emperor’s Gift for Heresy and Damnation missions will now see an increase in the...
We still getting guns 90% of the time
hot tulip
solar cloak
I LOVE GETTING RECON LAS GUNS ON MY PSYKER
wide tiger
I'm sure gonna miss my 400 rating legendary claws from the emperor
lucid terrace
“We KNOW you played trauma for 24 hours straight, so have this recon lasgun!”
hot tulip
We still getting guns 90% of the time
your pain will now be rewarded with a purple gun instead of a green gun for carrying that sandbagging gunpsyker
leaden thunder
I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE AMMO FROM MY ALLIES
wide tiger
I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE AMMO FROM MY ALLIES
Actually a pretty good idea
hot tulip
its the game telling you its meant to be
wide tiger
If you make it the other classes problem maybe they'll complain about it too
lucid terrace
Actually a pretty good idea
The vets will no longer replace psykers
We will take all their ammo.
All their grenades
spice veldt
is this the vet nerf we were waiting for
wide tiger
Fire one round on the recon lasgun, and only one round, before you loot each ammo pack. You gotta send that message.
spice veldt
we shall form a legion of knife recon lasgun psykers to overthrow the veterans
lucid terrace
The revolution we’ve been waiting for is no longer just a dream, but now it is a reality.
A reality we must grasp with a bulldog grip and never let go of.
The veterans shall be left with only ash and dust, while us psykers take what is rightfully ours.
long wharf
the patch reads like they're only targeting the absolute easiest changes to make still
nothing requiring actual game design decisions
lucid terrace
Maybe at the end of the month.
spice veldt
the most bare minimum of numerical tweaks
lucid terrace
I want that 2handed force sword soon.
long wharf
you were hoping for the impossible, so your sadness was both inevitable and self-inflicted
lucid terrace
I want a greatsword that one shots crushers with one special attack and 100% cleave.
spice veldt
:(
lucid terrace
and you only live in this one
Ain’t nothing wrong with escaping it then.
long wharf
good luck trying
lucid terrace
There is no luck
spice veldt
I want the weightiness of 2h sword animations
lucid terrace
Only success
long wharf
uh huh.
lucid terrace
Gimme 5 minutes and I’ll come back with how the alternative universe patch went.
leaden thunder
that is 100% intentional at this point
long wharf
I'm sure it'll get fixed in a patch
cyan notch
thats what we (except pfhoenix) thought about deflector ressing and passive quelling
long wharf
no "we" didn't
you may have, I knew it wasn't intentional and doomed
the passive quelling, that is
we did all think deflector ressing was intentional (and should be still)
supple skiff
never forget what they took from us
lucid terrace
Guys holy fuck, the alternate universe patch sucked ass.
vocal socket
I'm new to psyker. Are all staves more or less comparable, or do 1 or 2 stand out as superior?
spice veldt
broadly speaking, Purg is regarded as the best, but they're all damnation viable
I personally run the trauma staff as my main
pliant token
What are the reasons purg is considered the best? I run void myself and I just don't see how purgatus is better. Maybe it's a playstyle thing and I don't like that staff for other reasons.
spice veldt
cleave
Purg has infinite cleave for the entirety of it's range
although it deals insignificant damage to Crushers, it will cleave through the enemies behind it
it will do the same against 1 enemy as it does to 100 as long as they are inside the range of purg
and while Soulblaze isn't the most impressive DPS, it's not terrible
twilit flicker
It doesnt go through a Bulwark though, does it?
cyan notch
no
spice veldt
yeah, bulwarks are the exception
but Purg isn't a single projectile but a conal hotbox of some sort
so even if the vfx seems to be blocked by the shield, it'll still set enemies off to the side on fire
it also can stagger pretty much every human sized melee elite, so it's not as though you're very vulnerable
ornate hamlet
The most outstanding thing about Purge
Is how good it is with no blessings
But also it doesn't get much better even with ideal blessings
Because it has pretty bad blessings
twilit flicker
Its consistent
ornate hamlet
So there's no real chasing for a great Purge. A gray Purge is almost as good as an orange with peak perks and blessings
cyan notch
i went for focused channeling + flurry on my purg now
summer prairie
Doesn't look like flurry fix was included though
ornate hamlet
How does Flurry work on Purge atm?
cyan notch
idk sometimes i think it works sometimes not
ill just wait for them to fix it
nexus doesnt seem to be that great now
u get max stacks with 2 full charges anyway
shy fiber
Purgatus also has synergy with ascendant blaze
Meaning you always have a high chance of generating warp charges without having to manually brain burst
spice veldt
on the flip side, AB is still bugged to not take warp charges right
shy fiber
No?
unreal dust
near wyvern
@echo turtle I tested MkV combat axe for blaze warp charge generation. I was able to get charges at a reasonable rate even when I killed the targets before the first tick kicks in
gilded viper
my gun build got buff 
still bad but honesty wasn't expecting much so im good with this patch
near wyvern
@cyan notch @long wharf
Any of you have a decent flurry on surge? I have only T1. Tried to frame it and it seemed to behave very odly, it is as if the first cast enjoys the full stack benefit and the follow ups always use the un buffed rate.
I calculated frames from the moment the charge UI appears to the moment there is this audio sound for the charge to be ready.
gilded viper
never expecting WnR to kill off anything just to clip damage
long wharf
<@283547305758687232> <@524039295317835797>
Any of you have a decent flurry on...
I might?
I can't test right now, though
summer prairie
When flurry activates there is a delay causing the charge bar not to move at all for a while
My bug report has comparisons
olive ember
Btw someone mentioned that warp flurry works on purge the other day
And that purge was charging rly fast
near wyvern
The someowhat nice thing about the Wrack and Ruin buff is that one should be able to guarantee one shot Ragers and Poxbursters at 6 stacks with Cerebral Lacerations. Flamers if having +maniac damage and switching to that weapon as well.
olive ember
Anyone wanna confirm/deny
near wyvern
Anyone wanna confirm/deny
Don't have a flurry purge at the moment so cannot confirm. Will do as soon as I get my hands on one again
safe crystal
Anyone wanna confirm/deny
Just a moment, checking if i saved any flurries
long wharf
I read that as "furries" and was going to write a very tersely worded response.
near wyvern
It will end up in Atheneum when I have strong confirmation from myself or someone else that it works
long wharf
but emperor protects, sibling.
echo turtle
so, I was tryinf wrack and ruin with a build I was working on last night