#psyker-class

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rocky cedar
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I have a feeling they don't

still hearth
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Also

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A lot of stats

rocky cedar
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Get a 0% finesse Achyls and count attacks per minute compared to Antax

still hearth
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Are actually nerfs

ornate hamlet
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me and blood argued a little about that before, i still think MK II is way faster because of animation recovery time

still hearth
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Unless you go over a certain %

rocky cedar
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Don't know how else you'd test that

cyan notch
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u can look here

still hearth
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Finesse damage is WORSE on Rashad with 0% finesse

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Than antax base

ornate hamlet
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well yeah, of course

still hearth
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That's stupid design

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Why is a weapon's strength a possible weakness

spice veldt
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same with MK5 duelling sword; the block cost is worse at 0% defense than the other duelling swords

ornate hamlet
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the biggest advantage of cleave on MK V is that you only need 50% or higher on that stat, so it's easier to find "good" MK V
than it is to gind "good" MK II or MK VIII

still hearth
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Cleave is an advantage

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Because you csn dump it

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And use BM

restive slate
ornate hamlet
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it is a good guide tho

feral verge
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What's the optimal combo for force sword vs horde

rocky cedar
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I'm struggling to read that guide

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Is Rashad and Achyls same attack speed?

cyan notch
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rashad

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achyls

ornate hamlet
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@cyan notch
when comparing the MK II combat axe and MK V combat axe and you're just spamming heavy attacks on a boss,
it's continuously using what is referred to as "third set" H 1.2 correct?

cyan notch
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yes

ornate hamlet
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so... MK II is 1.03s
MK V is 1.23s

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that's why i've been saying it's so much faster

rocky cedar
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So if I'm understanding correctly

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Light chain is the same

ornate hamlet
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it "feels" way faster

rocky cedar
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Rashad heavies faster?

cyan notch
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i dont think that 0.2s is a big factor i think its probably the 12% attack speed

ornate hamlet
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i believe those numbers are before factoring in finesse, no?

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aren't those datamined numbers?

rocky cedar
ornate hamlet
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i think those numbers are strictly the animation itself, before factoring finesse into the equation, no?

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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yeah i thought so, it's faster by default and even faster because of finesse

rocky cedar
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Ok so maybe Achyls does practically have better attack speed then Antax

ornate hamlet
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that's what i was trying to say before

feral verge
rocky cedar
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I guess that's something

cyan notch
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you wouldnt know its faster by default though

ornate hamlet
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and MK VIII is 1.13s by the way, so it's also faster than MK V when spamming heavy attacks once you've gotten to the 3rd and beyond swings

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so it's like i was saying, MK VIII is faster than MK V, and MK II is even faster than both of them

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i could tell just by using them

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but this only really matters when you're spamming heavies

rocky cedar
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If anyone has an 80 finesse Achyls and can count lights per minute for it and Antax that'd be pretty sweet though

still hearth
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Maybe at lunch

ornate hamlet
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it's way noticable

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like, feels 20% faster to me

still hearth
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Antax too since I can't look at it on phone easily

ornate hamlet
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i could actually record tests and time the swings literally and give you values from footage, i get great framerate on this game so my tests - if i really clocked them - would be pretty close to true swingspeed differences reflected in a practical way by actually clocking them in videos, i'm kinda too lazy tho lol

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i can tell just by testing

rocky cedar
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So that's the same base light attack speed before finesse in theory

ornate hamlet
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yeah i think those values are before applying finesse

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so it's faster even before applying finesse to the equation

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(because the animations themselves have shorter/longer recovery times)

rocky cedar
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Yeah so Achyls is about 12% faster lights than Antax with max finesse

cyan notch
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recording is easy

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its getting rolls to test with thats hard

rocky cedar
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Ok that's something it has fair enough I guess

ornate hamlet
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if you did it blood, i think you'd find i'm right in my theory about that

still hearth
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Does anyone know if the attack themselves are sped up too?

cyan notch
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what is your theory?

ornate hamlet
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that when spamming heavy attacks,
MK II is roughly 20% faster than MK V
MK VIII is roughly 10% faster than MK V

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(with 80% finesse on them)

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once you get to 3rd heavy swing, they're noticably faster

rocky cedar
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How often are you just spamming heavies for that long though?

ornate hamlet
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just certain monstrosities

rocky cedar
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Doesn't seem that practically helpful

still hearth
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Ideal combo, two lights into heavy owoNods

ornate hamlet
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like daemon and the shield dude

rocky cedar
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Yeah ok boss DPS is a fair call

still hearth
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Swing twice before impact

ornate hamlet
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2 quick lights, then spam heavy after that

still hearth
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I was going to say no BM but

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Rashad

cyan notch
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if thats what you believe then sure

still hearth
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You don't have a maxed rashad and achlys?

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Smh

ornate hamlet
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the thing is, it's also dependant on player performance, as a human being it's very easy to hold heavy attack longer than you needed to

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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so even though it's on paper that much faster, it's also reliant on player knowing the timing really well to capitalize on it

rocky cedar
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I'm honestly tempted to build a Rashad after all Crab's ravings

ornate hamlet
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with headtaker and decimator?

rocky cedar
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Maybe head taker and thrust

ornate hamlet
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i'm going to turn you into axe+purg user afterall

rocky cedar
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I'd probably build it on my Zealot TBH

ornate hamlet
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oh hey ... should i buy?

cyan notch
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nope

ornate hamlet
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really? i still don't have even a decent voidstrike tho

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is this one that bad?

rocky cedar
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Seems decent enough to me

cyan notch
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blues from shop arent really worth it cuz of t1 blessings

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better if it was green

rocky cedar
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Eh you can gamble on second blessing

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If you're feeling spicy

ornate hamlet
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hm.. oh that's true they nerfed the shop on blessings, i forgot

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i think i'll buy anyway, might not upgrade tho

cyan notch
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kinda stupid that greys and greens are better

ornate hamlet
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i have a million currency anyway

rocky cedar
ornate hamlet
rocky cedar
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So incredibly needless

cyan notch
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guess this is what they meant by GREYS HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL

rocky cedar
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The system as is would just be straight better if shop hadn't been nerfed

wide tiger
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They also increased the rate of t2 perks, I'm like 90% sure

cyan notch
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cuz theyre technically NOT BRICKED YET

ornate hamlet
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so lame

rocky cedar
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Perks definitely seem to be worse

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Just across the board

wide tiger
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I'm not crazy I swear

cyan notch
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armory is still pretty good just that you gotta pick the greys and greens

rocky cedar
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Twice I've upgraded to purple and gotten a T2 perk

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Slightly rage inducing

ornate hamlet
wide tiger
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But yeah crafting has buttfucked me so many times post patch I'm near my limit

summer prairie
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armory has significantly higher rated items on average at least

wide tiger
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I haven't crafted a single item to add to my aresenal

ornate hamlet
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i literally look at every weapon categoy i'm interested in to check base modifiers, and buy if they're close to 370, the problem is..
it's always a fucking gun i swear

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i'm so sick of this

rocky cedar
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Embrace gunker

ornate hamlet
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i'm a PSYKER dude

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give me a STAFF plz

cyan notch
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well we only have 4 staves out of like idk 20 ranged

ornate hamlet
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i've been checking for a good MK V duelling sword too, but i never see a good one, and duelling sword in psyker isn't what it used to be anyway

ornate hamlet
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i bet it literally takes like 1/3rd the time to gear up a vet character (on average)

rocky cedar
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I wish FS would hurry up and patch already

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So goddamn curious

cyan notch
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just as i was looking there

rocky cedar
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Lol

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It do be a good day though

ornate hamlet
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should i even give a crap about the new "brunt's armoury" option or does it just give crap anyway

cyan notch
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yea just like THE WHOLE OF LAST WEEK

rocky cedar
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Gives us time to find game breaking bugs before the weekend

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Think about it

ornate hamlet
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did you guys blow all your currency gambling in brunt's armoury? or are you saving for 381+?

rocky cedar
ornate hamlet
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i have over a mil

rocky cedar
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Which lets be real most of us do

ornate hamlet
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yeah i was thinking of waiting till they release 381+ rolls tho

rocky cedar
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That may not even happen

cyan notch
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i only use brunts for weapons i really want

rocky cedar
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Like that and reds are pure supposition

ornate hamlet
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which may or may not even be accessible in brunt's armory, but yeah

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i feel like i should just save

cyan notch
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i have like 3m and i dont even want to use em

rocky cedar
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Ordo easy enough to get, why not make fun stuff now IMO

ornate hamlet
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my axe and purg are great,
i don't really feel a need to blow my currency just trying to get a good void or something, which i probably won't even prefer over purg

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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i can't help but think if i blow it all now, i'll regret it later

feral verge
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I have 500k

wide tiger
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I blew through 3mill ducats in brunts

rocky cedar
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I rarely go above 100K before I spend a bunch

feral verge
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I really didn't have to spend that much to get some good shit

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200k tops,maybe?

cyan notch
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this was mine before crafting

wide tiger
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Was not good. Got a few candidates but ultimately, bricked

feral verge
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@cyan notch and the after?

still hearth
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I just craft stuff constantly

cyan notch
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my weapons are pretty good so im mostly just hunting for blessings

feral verge
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same

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Warp flurry 4 for void

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Bloodthirsty for fs

cyan notch
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yea 45k was spent for bloodthirsty

floral solstice
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450k?

cyan notch
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45k plasteel

floral solstice
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oh

wide tiger
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So cheap

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Force swords have destroyed me

floral solstice
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well at least your 4 other psykers can use bloodthirsty now too

cyan notch
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yes they all have it lmao

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mostly with slaughterer 3 too

feral verge
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I wonder what theyll do about diamantine

sweet vault
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so how does blessing unlocks work for staffs? are each individual staff just its own thing and if you take a blessing from a voidstrike it can only go on voidstrike staffs, or is there an overlap?

cyan notch
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no overlap

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each staff has its own

sweet vault
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i see, thanks for the info

ornate hamlet
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At least you only have 4 ranged weapons

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No more

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No one is allowed to use guns

void arch
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had a tragic run in with a revolver psyker one night

feral verge
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In my experience, the runs I've had with gunker players are very rough, or end in failure (damnation)

void arch
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More Lโ€™s than I care to admit that night

fierce sinew
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gunpsykers are that stoner roommate everyone had in college who swears he's better at call of duty when he's high

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he just doesn't notice how wrong he is

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since he's high

floral solstice
void arch
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You do you man

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Youโ€™ll just never catch me gimping a team

floral solstice
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yeah i know its bad lol

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but at this point hi5 is kinda boring ngl

void arch
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Your annoying and I hate you

floral solstice
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just finding ways to meme my friends because im bored of t5

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lmao where did that come from

void arch
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Me

floral solstice
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btw it's you're

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blocked bye

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like wtf dunno why that guy got offended lol

lucid horizon
floral solstice
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thank god i dont use twitter

lucid horizon
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me either

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like if u want to get angry and toxic, just open twitter

cyan notch
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@floral solstice your annoying and i hate youre

floral solstice
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their all wrong

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like your

void arch
lucid horizon
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รฑ

olive ember
idle bay
# void arch

Only proper response to that gif is "What?" ๐Ÿ™‚

floral solstice
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what a weird day

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first thing i read on reddit is this (not dt subreddit)

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now suddenly someone taking offense for no reason

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idk man

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maybe i'll see aliens later

void arch
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What a wack ass thing to randomly bring up

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(Not dt subreddit)

idle bay
floral solstice
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yeah kinda, still disturbed that a guy i blocked still responding

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oh well

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later

void arch
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Your fake and weird

cold geode
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oh man, i cant wait to put run and gun on this purgatus staff

ornate hamlet
floral solstice
ornate hamlet
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lol

floral solstice
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i think that guy who did math is just high

ornate hamlet
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bro you can't post ANYTHING without some people finding a reason to be offended

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that's the lesson

floral solstice
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yeah i guess the internet is weird

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if i say "butterflies" or something someone will be offended

idle bay
# ornate hamlet

I see no point in energy drinks. Just cofee with a lot of sugar if you want both energy and rush will do the trick

void arch
ornate hamlet
idle bay
ornate hamlet
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but hey, in china men eat animal tesicles for virility lol

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i'd rather drink energy drinks

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knife zealot is a thing?

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sounds fun tbh

floral solstice
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well a lot of youtubers praised that it's op af

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but they do the DR calculation wrong

ornate hamlet
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i don't go by youtube
getting info from youtube is worse than discord or reddit

floral solstice
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definitely less knife zealots these days

idle bay
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And while Knife zealot can be trully amaing, most of the players who try it - fail miserably and therefore turned Knife Zealot into the meme

ornate hamlet
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90% of youtube vids are just clickbait, people reposting stuff from reddit or discord, or just flat out completely informationless waste of your time vids

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only like 10% of vids labelled as "guides" or "builds" actually have accurate information in them

idle bay
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Knife Zealots are in the same boat as Revolver/Shotgun vets and Zealots

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Meme boat

floral solstice
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most of those clickbait vids are the ones that get lots of views

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unfortunately

ornate hamlet
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since most people in discord can actively be engaged and challenged by other players, the info posted in discord is usually fairly reliable, since it's being peer-reviewed all the time

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reddit also, somewhat better because peer review

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youtube, can't even see the DISLIKE count anymore lol

idle bay
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Because most of them cant replicate things that done in some youtube video ๐Ÿ™‚ But they want to bee cool

summer prairie
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Update

olive ember
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build youtuber good?

ornate hamlet
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on youtube we used to at least be able to see the dislike count to see if a ton of people disagree

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but can't even see that anymore

floral solstice
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what am i looking at

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please tell me that isn't you lol

ornate hamlet
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and comments just get deleted or completely turned off

ornate hamlet
olive ember
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I use Google Translate I want to know if this option gun is good

ornate hamlet
ornate hamlet
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Revolver is pretty rooty tooty

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Shotgun can do up to 13k damage in a shot, to all targets.

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bing chilling gun psyker

floral solstice
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looks like a columnus iag iirc

ornate hamlet
summer prairie
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There was a patch but if it was the actual patch I'm not noticing anything different

cyan notch
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how big

ornate hamlet
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nothing in patch notes

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right?

summer prairie
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186mb or something, I think I saw one for V2 too though which was weird

ornate hamlet
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you mean this i think

floral solstice
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oh yeah there's an update rn

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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orly?

floral solstice
ornate hamlet
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ah hey i'm getting it now

summer prairie
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In-game I didn't notice anything different and surge wasn't fixed

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but since v2 and dt both seemingly got a patch, maybe this wasn't it

floral solstice
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ninja psyker nerfs

cyan notch
summer prairie
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copium

ornate hamlet
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nothing on their twitter yet

floral solstice
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no post on forums either?

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(i dont use forums)

olive ember
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Is use good build?

cyan notch
olive ember
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bad build?

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use bili bili and youtube build

ornate hamlet
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nothing on their forums yet either

cyan notch
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check rashid

floral solstice
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bloodthirsty removed from game

floral solstice
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thanks for your plasteel blood

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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dude it's strange that they push this patch without any posts anywhere about it

olive ember
cyan notch
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probably soon

olive ember
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good?

floral solstice
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well they don't explain some shit inside their own game

cyan notch
olive ember
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no good gun?

ornate hamlet
cyan notch
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its ligma

ornate hamlet
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they don't really explain anything

floral solstice
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dual laspistol when

ornate hamlet
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Immeasurably complex

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Hidden potential

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Shared inventory is impossible but not shared blessings

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
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Its the most mumbo jumbo meaningless thing

cyan notch
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BTW GREYS HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENTIL CUZ THEYRE NOT BRICKED YET

ornate hamlet
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It is

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True

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Technically

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yep

floral solstice
cyan notch
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im typing on my phone with one hand sugma

ornate hamlet
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it's funny actually because blood is spelling police

cyan notch
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ask ur mom

ornate hamlet
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when there's a patch but no patch notes, one of his hands doesn't function

floral solstice
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kinda like how psyker likes to one-hand most stuff

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but can block-push like there's no tomorrow

ornate hamlet
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i hope toughness regen is broken OP again

idle bay
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We were promised a minor buff this week. But that promise does not cancel probability of massive nerf as well ๐Ÿ™‚

feral verge
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this patch was huge

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they buffed psyker big

cyan notch
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patch notes: fixed some crashes and increased bb cost

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ty come back next week

ornate hamlet
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i wish they didn't break the shop

idle bay
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Normal shop item

ornate hamlet
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2 diamond perk and rank 1 blessing with great stats, come on man

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Normal shop is for blessing farming

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So you can upgrade it for less plasteel

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i mean i don't need 80% mobility but still dude

floral solstice
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that's why i dont check shop anymore

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can't be disappointed if i dont check it

ornate hamlet
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Smart.

idle bay
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It's already Tuesday and i have not started doing weeklies yet....

ornate hamlet
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no change in cash shop

idle bay
floral solstice
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no word about small update from catfish yet

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at least from her recent comments

ornate hamlet
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no change in operative cosmetics

summer prairie
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that's our small buff

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enjoy

floral solstice
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lmao

summer prairie
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didn't fix flurry though!

floral solstice
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i wonder if they only noticed that just now

idle bay
summer prairie
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5-15, I think

ornate hamlet
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Voidstrike OP now

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Lets go

floral solstice
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cries in surge

idle bay
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I never used that feat before... will not use it still ๐Ÿ™‚

floral solstice
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lots of people talking about voidstrike these days

cyan notch
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yea it was 5-15

floral solstice
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now im tempted to build one

ornate hamlet
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It's still probably scaling up to 100%

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Which makes it sucky

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no change to MK II combat axe hitreg

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But at least now you can hit 20% damage regularly I assume

summer prairie
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it was 5% at 0 peril before, so should be 10% always

cyan notch
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yea

ornate hamlet
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That's

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Twice as much

cyan notch
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fs special go crazy tho

ornate hamlet
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Imagine if they doubled the max cap to 30% instead

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probably still not better than inner tranq for the peril resist

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Smh

cyan notch
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probably can 1 shot mutie

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easier

summer prairie
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wait purg left click looks idffernet

ornate hamlet
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Ooo?

ornate hamlet
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if they broke purg i'm uninstalling

floral solstice
summer prairie
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maybe a nerf

floral solstice
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how so?

cyan notch
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u now die to ragers

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stagger set to negative

floral solstice
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also since when did they change that feat's name

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that used to have the same name as ult

cyan notch
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last patch

floral solstice
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maybe just visual?

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idk

glass oriole
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i thought it hast least longer hitbox than before

cyan notch
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seems same

glass oriole
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*has

floral solstice
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kinda like the visual change from beta zealot flamer to launch

ornate hamlet
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It looks the same to me

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i'm jumping into mission to see if purg was changed at all

floral solstice
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yaeh

ornate hamlet
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Purge LMB never had a big AoE

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it probably just looks brighter in missions

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because darker

olive ember
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I can see now

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bullshit

floral solstice
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f it i'll run the game to see

floral solstice
idle bay
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I have to wait until after work to check the changes .. i so i'm grateful for information shared here ๐Ÿ™‚

floral solstice
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they can just

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you know

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tell us what changed

ornate hamlet
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Eventually.

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The hidden potential though

idle bay
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The Hidden Potential โ„ข

ornate hamlet
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uh....

cyan notch
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hidden potential of deez nuts

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how bout that

sinful vigil
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new psyker here, what are some melee recommendations?

floral solstice
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yeah the purg LMB looks the same to me idk

idle bay
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Warning - it's highly addictive

floral solstice
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force sword w/ slaughterer

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dueling swords decent too

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etc etc

olive ember
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apparently ogryn got one of their traits buffed

summer prairie
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Pretty sure purg left click is at least visually smaller

olive ember
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anything diff from psyker

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I would check but

summer prairie
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watching some videos of the old

ornate hamlet
olive ember
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yeah im gonna struggle with checking traits for a bit

lucid terrace
ornate hamlet
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i'm so sick of this hitreg bullshit

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sprinting still cancels your shit

lucid terrace
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I donโ€™t think flamer or purg hitreg for LMB is that good anyways.

olive ember
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simply adjust to lag

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ez

ornate hamlet
lucid terrace
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Donโ€™t live in rural Montana, best tip for psykers using purgatus.

ornate hamlet
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when you sprint immediately after shooting flames with purg, the flames just get cancelled.
visually they are there, but they do nothing mechanically they don't exist

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i'm not even switching wep, just sprinting

lucid terrace
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Thatโ€™s a bit stinky then.

ornate hamlet
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yes, it's extremely dumb
it's possible it's because i have run n gun blessing

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which is even more a slap in the face

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Nah it does that on normal Purge too

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sigh

lucid terrace
olive ember
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man theres no chinese voice acting smh

ornate hamlet
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Most actions just delete the projectile

olive ember
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everything still is in english

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voice acting wise

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not fun >.>

ornate hamlet
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i'm posting that clip in memes

lucid terrace
# olive ember not fun >.>

Well if it makes you feel any better, I donโ€™t think any other language has the characters speaking natively other than English.

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So the Spaniards are fucked

olive ember
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I mean tbh with how the game released I didn't expect dubs but

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wouldve been fun to see the battle cries n shit

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alright im swapping the game back to english so I can actually read shit

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fml

floral solstice
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yo hadron didn't grief my grey just now

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first attempt after spending on brunt

feral verge
olive ember
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congrats

ornate hamlet
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Holy

olive ember
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just swap barrage with flurry n you good

feral verge
#

terrifying barrage into flurry 3 or 4 and you're golden

floral solstice
#

now i can finally say i own a useable void lmao

feral verge
#

and unyielding damage to flak

floral solstice
#

ok unyielding to carapace gotcha

#

jk

olive ember
#

oh here comes the patch notes

ornate hamlet
#

Carapace damage isn't terrible on Void either

olive ember
#

and

#

I am depressed

feral verge
#

where the notes

olive ember
#

Useless and useless

ornate hamlet
#

Lmao

floral solstice
#

why is fatshark doing this to me

ornate hamlet
#

Warp Unleashed is ok

floral solstice
#

i wanted to play dawn of war today

ornate hamlet
#

Wrack and Ruin will still be trash

feral verge
#

this is huge

#

psyker gaming has changed forever

floral solstice
#

wait

#

the tooltip ingame says wrack and ruin affects everything

#

is that a new change just now?

ornate hamlet
#

What does it say?

floral solstice
#

or did i just miss that last patch

#

hang on

olive ember
#

its always been like that

ornate hamlet
#

No

floral solstice
#

i remember it was limited on targets

ornate hamlet
#

They changed it from kill to hit

floral solstice
#

yeah hit too

olive ember
#

well yes

floral solstice
#

but still elites tho

olive ember
#

but no it was never limited

#

the range was just so shit that it didn't matter

ornate hamlet
#

I think it always hit everything around, yeah.

#

4m is still trash though

#

So

olive ember
#

also force weapon is still useless

ornate hamlet
#

It needs to be at least 6 stacks and like 10m

floral solstice
#

oh did it always affect everything? i actually kept thinking it affected limited targets

#

goes to show i dont care much about the feat lol

cyan notch
#

i used it levelling up my breasts

olive ember
#

purge weapon does 11 damage, before force weapon would up it to 13, now it ups it to 14

#

amazing

floral solstice
feral verge
#

atleast fatshark told the truth

#

small buff

olive ember
#

11 * 1.15 = 12.65
11 * 1.25 = 13.75

#

Assuming everything is just rounded up

floral solstice
#

i'd be happy even if it was 5 stacks

olive ember
#

Force unleashed now increases purge staff damage from 13 to 14

#

amazing

floral solstice
#

imagine if longer range from wrack triggered DH lol

olive ember
#

It probably can

ornate hamlet
#

Using Purge for its direct damage

floral solstice
#

that'd be funny

ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

I mean it still holds true tbh

#

I guess you can use Force weapon as a coping mechanism if you get a shit trauma and need the damage to kill poxwalkers

#

but useless otherwise

feral verge
#

the warp unleashed perk needs sometihng else

ornate hamlet
#

Voidstrike for faster shots

feral verge
#

it needs to have reduced peril decay

ornate hamlet
#

Voidstrike is definitely the best option for Warp Unleashed

olive ember
#

it's just badly designed no way to balance it imo

ornate hamlet
#

It can even combo with transfer peril

#

So that you don't need the peril resistance

floral solstice
#

so uh do you guys aura + barrage on void or charges + ab

olive ember
#

they either buff the damage all the way where its substantial enough to hit breakpoints consistently, at which point it will just always be taken

floral solstice
#

literally no idea how to play void

#

except for pew pew headshots

olive ember
#

or its always just garbo compared to flat peril resist

ornate hamlet
#

That's how you play void

#

Pew pew headshots

olive ember
#

I run aura + barrage

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah probably that

olive ember
#

tho I barely touch void

feral verge
#

@floral solstice

ornate hamlet
#

AB is acceptable too

feral verge
#

my main void build

#

had alotta success

#

well rounded

olive ember
#

essence drain and warp battery on void?

ornate hamlet
#

I'd probably run Warp Unleashed now though

feral verge
ornate hamlet
#

Warp Battery definitely

olive ember
#

does the damage even matter on void?

ornate hamlet
#

Yes

olive ember
#

not rly

#

also you will literally be kept at low peril

floral solstice
#

idk how peril heavy void is so not sure if quietitude can be used, but i guess yeah harvest seems better

ornate hamlet
#

It's the staff that you want to stack the most damage on

floral solstice
#

or transfer peril with quietitude is a thing?

ornate hamlet
#

Yes

#

It is

olive ember
#

it is

floral solstice
#

๐Ÿง

olive ember
#

but not really worth tbh

#

i'm surprised he runs essense harvest tbh

ornate hamlet
#

Quietitude is the GOAT

feral verge
#

i BB alot

olive ember
#

in the time he could BB a shooter he could prob void staff and kill 3 pox walkers

feral verge
#

i only use staff for hordes

olive ember
#

but thats just personal playstyle tbf

ornate hamlet
#

What if there's no pox walkers

feral verge
#

i use melee alot

ornate hamlet
#

Silly dog

olive ember
#

you can still use the void staff on shooters

floral solstice
#

fuck it i'll use zero feats

olive ember
#

and if they are grouped together enough it will still be more efficient

indigo creek
#

Did the electric staff get buffed or reworked?

feral verge
#

nope

olive ember
#

wait

floral solstice
#

well imma test how much this thing damages elites but idk how void performs yet vs mixed hordes

olive ember
#

wrong screenshot

feral verge
#

this is literally it

olive ember
#

both are useless tbh

ornate hamlet
#

Warp Unleashed good

olive ember
#

unless voidstrike hits some new breakpoint

ornate hamlet
#

Wrack and Ruin bad

feral verge
#

this is huge, derpy

olive ember
#

its useless

ornate hamlet
#

I'll literally

#

Stab anyone

#

Who talks about breakpoints

feral verge
#

psyker gaming has CHANGED forever

ornate hamlet
#

Ever again

floral solstice
#

"we have our eyes on the flamer"

#

dun dun dun

olive ember
#

lmao

olive ember
#

good thing I'm screwing around with auto pistols on my zealot then

feral verge
#

no anime in my psyker chat

ornate hamlet
#

I don't think anything is dumber than considering breakpoints as the only metric angymorrow

feral verge
#

save for vet chat

ornate hamlet
#

I anime as I please

olive ember
#

worst case scenario I'll just swap over to hsword bolter zealot

ornate hamlet
#

I don't dare touch Veteran chat

indigo creek
#

I see others using it and it seems to chain to other enemies

olive ember
olive ember
#

if an enemy would die it can chain up to more

floral solstice
#

LMAO hadron is ballin today, first refine attempt on that voidstrike i posted earlier

olive ember
#

im not exactly too sure when it decides when to chain more than 5 but again generally it means that one of the 5 initial targets has to die

lucid horizon
#

i hate flammer for the psyker but if they keep buffing i will be forced to use it

feral verge
ornate hamlet
#

no but seriously, it does seem like purg radius was shadownerfed

rare furnace
floral solstice
#

uhh im killing groaners with uncharged headshots

#

is this the feat buff doing work or was it always like this

#

0 warp charges

cyan notch
#

always like that pretty sure

#

they only have like 200 hp

forest coral
#

Always like that

feral verge
#

game crashed

#

when i switched to a dif loadout

#

lol

#

switched from my main, to my purga, back to main

#

when back to main, crash

ornate hamlet
#

Axe nerfs

#

Pretty huge

floral solstice
#

nooooo

#

(havent read notes yet)

ornate hamlet
#

It lost like 50% damage to maniacs

#

Since the lights used to do insane maniac damage for no reason

floral solstice
#

yeah im whacking a mutant rn with my psyker's antax

#

rip

olive ember
#

axe got shadow nerfed?

#

like for real for real or you guy shitposting

ornate hamlet
#

this doesn't really help

ornate hamlet
floral solstice
#

my crappy atrox is killing maniacs faster than my headtaker antax now

ornate hamlet
#

Not a shadow nerf

#

They "fixed" maniac damage on lights

cyan notch
#

i was a tac axe enjoyer anyway

floral solstice
#

BB wasn't as busted as antax lights before

olive ember
#

ah I see

#

lol its clearly all your fault guys

floral solstice
#

does that mean that it's better now?

olive ember
#

you guys were abusing a known exploit

floral solstice
#

(i mean ogryn BB)

forest coral
#

No more antax

#

Only chainsword

olive ember
#

its your own fault that you guys were abusing a bug and exploit smh

floral solstice
#

uninstall time jk

cyan notch
ornate hamlet
#

tbh, i noticed how fast i always killed mutants and it did feel a little broken

floral solstice
ornate hamlet
#

so i'm not bothered, mutants are so easy to dodge anyway

#

there were times i 1 shot them with light attack

#

and i was like.. .'ok?'

#

Warp Unleashed still feels pretty bad

cyan notch
#

heavies dont do much more than lights so its probably still better to light vs mutants

floral solstice
#

just play ogryn and box muties thumbsup_ogryn

forest coral
#

Warp unleashed has now gone from horseshit to dogshit

#

Still shit

ornate hamlet
#

yeah i've always just light attacked mutants, mostly because i often hit them in the face as they charge past me after someone else

#

(and sometimes just 1 shotted em)

#

It does

#

Help to hit faster oneshots

#

On Void

feral verge
#

warp unleashed needs to have slower peril decay perk, and deactivate that 10% peril loss on kill

ornate hamlet
#

But Flurry already helps so much with that

#

Since you just have peril resistance instead

#

dude it's flat out stupid that we have a choice between peril resist and + warp damage

#

they shouldn't be in the same tier

#

we should be able to use both

#

other tiers have shit choices

cyan notch
#

high peril or low peril

#

seems ok tbh

feral verge
#

i'd love a viable high peril build

#

like a zealot low hp build (even though that's not that great)

#

but it'd be cool af if done right

ornate hamlet
#

anyway, the bugfix to axe is no big deal, it was confusing how much damage it dealt sometimes to muties anyway

#

i figured it was some kind of bug

olive ember
#

nah im pretty annoyed

#

makes the axe alot worse against maniacs as well

ornate hamlet
#

i really don't mind

#

it felt like a bug

olive ember
#

overall a net nerf to psyker

#

its actually amazing

#

even as a bugfix this patch was an overall nerf to psyker

ornate hamlet
#

the thing is, it also feels like a bug that purg does virtually no damage to crushers

#

like, i don't even know why it's like that

olive ember
#

they made a weapon that was actually used worse, and buffed two perks no one used

#

so inconsequentially that no one will use em now anyways

#

so yeah net nerf to psyker

ornate hamlet
#

that's usually what devs do tho derpy, they nerf everything to the ground until they're all equally shit choices

#

Wait

#

they sap the fun out of their games

#

I just noticed

#

You can't get the transfer peril

#

At 100%+

olive ember
#

I'm almost impressed

ornate hamlet
#

Why

feral verge
#

wdym

#

like it cant take you out of critical peril?
cuz it can

ornate hamlet
#

It refuses to do that in Psykarnum

#

every game i've ever played has been like that, mmorpg's too

they're like "oh this is OP? ok we hit with nerf stick"
"oh this is OP? we hit with nerf stick"

it gets to a point where everything you liked about your character has been nerfed in 1 way or another, and the game simply is no fun anymore

feral verge
#

it works in a normal game

#

i ca n 100% confirm

ornate hamlet
#

and unironically, fatshark did that to psyker from beta to release once already

#

I only have a T1 but whenever I shoot at 100%

#

It seems to refuse to make it weakspot hits

feral verge
#

i've seen my character do the hands raised animation like 'ohh ima blow up'

olive ember
feral verge
#

then peril climbs down from transfer peril

#

and im gucci

#

i've done that several times in a row

olive ember
#

the first one was basically damage control because everyone hated the psyker changes from CBT to base

ornate hamlet
#

You do know that

#

You can get the 10%

#

they literally nerfed every aspect of psyker from beta to release nearly, and then hit us with a few more nerfs, and when people started finding and using bugs to our advantage because we had no other options, they "fixed" those too lol

and now, finally, they started giving us some buffs to get us back on track

#

From passive

#

And not blow up

feral verge
#

yes

olive ember
#

and the second one was an actually good buff to psyker in terms of warp changes

#

besides that yeah

ornate hamlet
#

I do not get transfer peril to proc

#

It will not bring me below 100%

feral verge
#

i do

olive ember
#

so bar two updates pmuch every patch has nerfed psyker in some form

ornate hamlet
#

yes the warp damage buff is a good change

feral verge
#

it has to be done with several enemies

#

you have to hit a few in the head

ornate hamlet
#

i might actually switch over, the thing is.. i'm not sure if it's going to apply to purg the way i want it to

feral verge
#

1 or 2 wont cut it

olive ember
#

I wouldn't even call it "finding" bugs

cyan notch
#

its a nerf to everyone not just psyker tho

ornate hamlet
#

because purg is dot based and does small numbers, it might not increase purg dps as much as it sounds like it would

forest coral
#

Apart from antax

olive ember
#

considering half the damn "bugs" didn't even feel like bugs tbh

forest coral
#

Weโ€™re there also any other ninja adjustments

lament sonnet
#

The other classes don't care as much as psyker does

#

if at all

olive ember
#

like no one thought "oh faster quelling on non force weapons was a bug"

#

op sure

ornate hamlet
#

Uh

#

i mean, i did

cyan notch
#

what the other classes still use antax

olive ember
#

most people didn't they thought it was intended

ornate hamlet
#

I definitely thought it was unintended

#

nah i figured it was unintended

lament sonnet
#

The zealot

olive ember
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

people thought it was a way to incentivize using non force weapons

#

tbh if you ask me what really feels like a bug

ornate hamlet
#

next they're going to nerf people spamming weapon swap to look twitchy in elevators just to sap more fun out of the game
because that's just what devs do
having fun is not allowed

olive ember
#

the autopistol feels like a bug

cyan notch
#

why should they incentivise people to not use force weapons on a force weapon class

olive ember
#

the shitty pea shooter deals more damage than the shotgun, the flamer, or even the full on auto guns with the right blessings

cyan notch
#

silly line of thinking

ornate hamlet
#

They don't even incentivise you to use force weapons

cyan notch
#

they do they have Warp Unleashedโ„ข๏ธ

ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

I mean another example could be the deflector reviving

feral verge
lament sonnet
#

It's not to directly incentivize them so much as give you a reason to not use force weapons

feral verge
#

from pygex's guide

#

"You can exit POW by quelling during the animation. The currently available methods are ult and Battle Meditation passive for example by killing something with soulblaze during the animation. Transfer Peril DOES NOT save your from POW."

olive ember
#

people thought "oh well since you get auto block while reviving, with deflector it give syou the benefit of autoblocking ranged"

#

and yeah

lament sonnet
#

Give psyker a benefit for not using them in some loadouts.

olive ember
#

also a bug

ornate hamlet
#

It's likely that Battle Meditation procced then yeah

olive ember
#

quelling while peril blocking was also a bug apparently

#

no one really knew that

ornate hamlet
#

The word bug really bugs me

cyan notch
#

it makes sense your stamina doesnt go up while getting hit

ornate hamlet
#

Because when I think bugs I don't think "someone just forgot to turn off this thing"

cyan notch
#

so same with peril blocking

manic halo
#

I think the quell nerds wouldnโ€™t be so bad if psyker actually had more force weapons

olive ember
#

it was BS sure but since it was the only instance in the game no one really questioned it

manic halo
#

Melee wise anyways

lament sonnet
#

Well, the definition is kind of up to the devs

#

Lots of devs consider that bugs

olive ember
#

people might've thought it was op but no one went "yeah this shit is an exploit it needs to get fixed"

cyan notch
#

i did

olive ember
#

just patch after patch psyker gets hit with these bug fixes that just nerf

#

all the fun out of the damn class

cyan notch
#

cuz fuck antax spammers

feral verge
#

what should i do. get warp flurry 4 for staff? or get bloodthristy for fs?

lament sonnet
#

The applications of muggle quelling were the exploitative aspects of it, not the quelling itself

olive ember
#

Its dumb

#

but yeah another net nerf for psyker

#

add it to the list

lament sonnet
#

Being able to peril tank daemonhosts was likely something not meant to be done

ornate hamlet
#

even the first time i saw an ogryn doing it i was like.. ok it's an ogryn but still wtf?

olive ember
#

basically every class can block a monstrosity indefinetly

lament sonnet
#

Except they shouldn't

ornate hamlet
#

it shouldn't be a thing

olive ember
#

ogryns obviously had it easiest with fucking planted shielid

cyan notch
#

what

#

vet cant block dh forever

olive ember
#

so why would psyker who had a whole ass trait dedicated to blocking be out of the realm of possibility

cyan notch
#

neither can zealot

lament sonnet
#

Ogryns should be the only one even remotely capable of it

ornate hamlet
#

when you're hit consecutively in rapid succession it should cause more stam drain than if you're hit sporadically

olive ember
#

zealot can

#

obviously they gotta incorporate dodges n shit

cyan notch
#

kite yes block no

ornate hamlet
#

and monstrosity should be able to break block much easier than mobs of trash

olive ember
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

i'm just saying every class can stall (thats the word) a dh forever

ornate hamlet
#

Just reset your block break

cyan notch
#

cheating

#

doesnt count

ornate hamlet
#

the fact that trash mobs have virtually no collision and 10 can hit you at the same time is already stupid enough

#

Cheating or mechanics

olive ember
#

and then ogryn had the specific ability to shielid plant

ornate hamlet
#

This game doesn't tell us

cyan notch
#

cheating

olive ember
#

so if every class can stall a dh forever and ogryn can shield plant to literally afk, I'd argue that believing that psyker getting a perk thats specifically designed for blocking would let them block a dh indefinitely isn't that far out of the realm of possiblity

lament sonnet
#

You're using that phrase wrong

#

The "realm of possibility" is for when you're comparing a theory to what's currently possible

#

The context of this is that we should not be able to tank monstrosities so easily

#

Or at all, on some classes.

olive ember
#

no i'm using the phrase correctly

lament sonnet
#

Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's ok

idle bay
#

There should be terms -"cool option" , "fun design" - does not matter if it bug ... if it fits - keep it.

ornate hamlet
#

next patch, players will be unable to slide if out of stamina

olive ember
#

technically

#

blockign while reviving is a bug too

#

its been confirmed it was a bug

#

that people liked so they kept it

#

from VT

lament sonnet
#

Hell, let's keep in mind. We, as the detritus we are in this game, should not be capable of tangling with a Beast of Nurgle or Daemonhost at all, let alone kill these things

#

Being able to just stand there and soak up their everything breezy makes even less sense

floral solstice
#

ok bois which one, i honestly prefer mk 2 and headtaker in general

olive ember
#

ogryns can do it, every class can stall a daemonhost indefinitely by dodging and blocking

cyan notch
olive ember
#

why couldn't psyker do it when they have a specific trait for blocking

cyan notch
#

u can

#

gives u more leeway

lament sonnet
#

Because it's just blocking

olive ember
#

ogryn can do it

cyan notch
#

just not brain off sit in a corner and hold one button down

gentle rose
lament sonnet
#

It's the fucking ogryn, they're the tank class

olive ember
#

anyways what I'm arguing is that people didn't think it was an "exploit"

floral solstice
olive ember
#

not everyone did

lament sonnet
#

They should be the ones able to just stand there and tank the DH

feral verge
#

i'm plasteel poor now

#

no bloodthirsty

lament sonnet
#

Other people need to be able to move around, and they can

#

And they still can.

cyan notch
lament sonnet
#

Psyker not being able to do so infinitely is not a bit deal

#

We're fucking mages

manic halo
ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

either way it doesn't matter, the only trend i see is that psyker keeps getting nerfs in the form of "bug fixes"

cyan notch
#

lol

#

i dont think its that deep

#

its not targeting psykers specifically

olive ember
#

meh i'm not saying theres some motive

#

but yeah every patch bar two have been nerfs to psykers

floral solstice
ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

ehhhh

#

idk which one you are considering attractive

#

they are both complete dogshit to me

cyan notch
#

i almost never do heavies cuz pushattack is the same but faster

olive ember
#

unless force unleashed has drastically helped with breakpoints it won't mean shit

ornate hamlet
#

it's really not something you should sweat over
hell i'm more mad about shop getting nerfed dude
like blood said, now we might as well not even look at anything other than greys

#

which is really lame

olive ember
#

and according to some quick testing its not that noticeable atleast

manic halo
#

Force unleashed should have additional affects at least, make burning enemies take more damage

olive ember
cyan notch
#

yea

olive ember
#

I mean i guess, but you could do that before as well

#

and even if you couldn't before thats a p niche application

#

Also

#

people say infinite block dh is broken

#

it really isn't

#

since dh passively gives corruption so if you really were dumb about it you would just get screwed by corruption even if you are just afk holding rmb

#

on top of that there are literal clips of zealots two shotting daemonhosts

summer prairie
#

what's broken is TH 3-4 shotting bosses

cyan notch
#

helps to 1 shot dreg ragers easier too

summer prairie
#

peril block is still stupid though

cyan notch
#

theres no way to avoid corruption from dh at melee range lol

olive ember
#

like aggroing every dh you see

#

because thats the argument right

near wyvern
#

Wrack and Ruin buff KEKW_ogryn I still doubt it's doing enough because veterans will just gib enemies anyway before you can finish the cast. They should just make RMB the same speed as LMB.

manic halo
#

Hey listen flamers gonna get nerfed soon kill the th and all zealots are gonna be on suicide watch KEKW_ogryn

olive ember
#

with pre fixed peril blocking you could just ooga booga rmb and clearly op

ornate hamlet
olive ember
#

but in reality compared to what other classes can do it really wasn't

olive ember
#

they'll just keep buffing wrack and ruin until its meta

cyan notch
olive ember
#

"hitting an elite or special applies 10 stacks of burn to everything in 50m"

ornate hamlet
#

lol it could be 10x stronger and it'd still be too circumstantial to be worth

near wyvern
#

No word on Brunt rolls but I guess I am going to test if they are still garbage

ornate hamlet
#

if they changed brunt rolls they would have posted about it

#

surely

olive ember
forest coral
#

I picture after a few more patches wrack and ruin will be overpowered for ascendant blaze builds

bold flint
#

sheeesh hows that 1 extra blaze feel boys

forest coral
#

This is how I see shit skills usually going to the point of relevancy

cyan notch
forest coral
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Iโ€™ve seen it way too many times in Korean mmos

idle bay
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Maybe a constructive post from Guidemaker in Feedback forums will take a bit of attention from Fatshark that recent Wrak and Ruin buff virtually does nothing and completely meaningless, and feat as whole need to be changed

olive ember
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technically its a breakpoint hit, now you just have to apply wrack and ruin twice in order to kill a trash mob instead of 3 times

ornate hamlet
bold flint
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good thing darktide is a korean mmo whatthefuck_heresy

forest coral
summer prairie
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wrack and ruin is probably okay with barrage

ornate hamlet
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nah

royal granite
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lmao

olive ember
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again i bring up shield ogryns, th zealots, and bolter vets as a comparison

ornate hamlet
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it's seriously still trash, not even worth talking about honestly

cyan notch
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ok u do u

olive ember
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meh

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wrack and ruin is still garbo

forest coral
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Needs more stacks and aoe radius then maybe

royal granite
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love to deal an additional 3 damage to a crusher

forest coral
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m a y b e

olive ember
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and honestly I don't think Force weapon will mean much

ornate hamlet
forest coral
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I agree

summer prairie
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it kills every horde enemy/flak shooter around an ogryn you BB

forest coral
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Make feat that sync with guns

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then we can actually have synergy with other 50% of our available weapons

cyan notch
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if it applied to monsters then it would be pogging irl

olive ember
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especially since the only staff that people are excited to use force weapon on is voidstrike, which A) uses warp flurry, making force weapon redundant once you get the fast charge going, B) uses transfer peril, which literally goes against the dmg scaling of force weapon

cyan notch
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its still 10% free damage

idle bay
near wyvern