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Get a 0% finesse Achyls and count attacks per minute compared to Antax
Are actually nerfs
me and blood argued a little about that before, i still think MK II is way faster because of animation recovery time
Unless you go over a certain %
Don't know how else you'd test that
u can look here
well yeah, of course
same with MK5 duelling sword; the block cost is worse at 0% defense than the other duelling swords
the biggest advantage of cleave on MK V is that you only need 50% or higher on that stat, so it's easier to find "good" MK V
than it is to gind "good" MK II or MK VIII
That thumbnail looks stupid... must be a good guide!
it is a good guide tho
What's the optimal combo for force sword vs horde
@cyan notch
when comparing the MK II combat axe and MK V combat axe and you're just spamming heavy attacks on a boss,
it's continuously using what is referred to as "third set" H 1.2 correct?
yes
so... MK II is 1.03s
MK V is 1.23s
that's why i've been saying it's so much faster
it "feels" way faster
Rashad heavies faster?
i dont think that 0.2s is a big factor i think its probably the 12% attack speed
i believe those numbers are before factoring in finesse, no?
aren't those datamined numbers?
Light heavy push repeat I think
i think those numbers are strictly the animation itself, before factoring finesse into the equation, no?
seems like it
yea probably
yeah i thought so, it's faster by default and even faster because of finesse
Ok so maybe Achyls does practically have better attack speed then Antax
that's what i was trying to say before
Thanks
I guess that's something
you wouldnt know its faster by default though
and MK VIII is 1.13s by the way, so it's also faster than MK V when spamming heavy attacks once you've gotten to the 3rd and beyond swings
so it's like i was saying, MK VIII is faster than MK V, and MK II is even faster than both of them
i could tell just by using them
but this only really matters when you're spamming heavies
If anyone has an 80 finesse Achyls and can count lights per minute for it and Antax that'd be pretty sweet though
the thing is, i could tell it's more than just 10% faster ish
it's way noticable
like, feels 20% faster to me
i could actually record tests and time the swings literally and give you values from footage, i get great framerate on this game so my tests - if i really clocked them - would be pretty close to true swingspeed differences reflected in a practical way by actually clocking them in videos, i'm kinda too lazy tho lol
i can tell just by testing
So that's the same base light attack speed before finesse in theory
yeah i think those values are before applying finesse
so it's faster even before applying finesse to the equation
(because the animations themselves have shorter/longer recovery times)
Yeah so Achyls is about 12% faster lights than Antax with max finesse
Ok that's something it has fair enough I guess
if you did it blood, i think you'd find i'm right in my theory about that
Does anyone know if the attack themselves are sped up too?
what is your theory?
that when spamming heavy attacks,
MK II is roughly 20% faster than MK V
MK VIII is roughly 10% faster than MK V
(with 80% finesse on them)
once you get to 3rd heavy swing, they're noticably faster
How often are you just spamming heavies for that long though?
just certain monstrosities
Doesn't seem that practically helpful
Ideal combo, two lights into heavy 
like daemon and the shield dude
Yeah ok boss DPS is a fair call
Swing twice before impact
that's actually what i do with MK II usually
because i'm trying to quickly build headtaker and decimator
2 quick lights, then spam heavy after that
its pretty hard to test without gambling for rolls and i sure as hell aint doing that
if thats what you believe then sure
the thing is, it's also dependant on player performance, as a human being it's very easy to hold heavy attack longer than you needed to
no theyre worthless
so even though it's on paper that much faster, it's also reliant on player knowing the timing really well to capitalize on it
I'm honestly tempted to build a Rashad after all Crab's ravings
with headtaker and decimator?
Maybe head taker and thrust
I'd probably build it on my Zealot TBH
oh hey ... should i buy?
nope
Seems decent enough to me
hm.. oh that's true they nerfed the shop on blessings, i forgot
i think i'll buy anyway, might not upgrade tho
kinda stupid that greys and greens are better
i have a million currency anyway
It's extremely dumb
for real, i was really disappointed when i saw that they nerfed the weapon shop
So incredibly needless
guess this is what they meant by GREYS HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL
The system as is would just be straight better if shop hadn't been nerfed
They also increased the rate of t2 perks, I'm like 90% sure
cuz theyre technically NOT BRICKED YET
I'm not crazy I swear
armory is still pretty good just that you gotta pick the greys and greens
yeah, i mean i have always been checking greys too
But yeah crafting has buttfucked me so many times post patch I'm near my limit
armory has significantly higher rated items on average at least
I haven't crafted a single item to add to my aresenal
i literally look at every weapon categoy i'm interested in to check base modifiers, and buy if they're close to 370, the problem is..
it's always a fucking gun i swear
i'm so sick of this
Embrace gunker
well we only have 4 staves out of like idk 20 ranged
i've been checking for a good MK V duelling sword too, but i never see a good one, and duelling sword in psyker isn't what it used to be anyway
yeah that's the problem, meanwhile if i were a VETERAN, there's a number of good possible options in shop for me
i bet it literally takes like 1/3rd the time to gear up a vet character (on average)
should i even give a crap about the new "brunt's armoury" option or does it just give crap anyway
yea just like THE WHOLE OF LAST WEEK
did you guys blow all your currency gambling in brunt's armoury? or are you saving for 381+?
It's an expensive but ultimately effective way of getting good bases if you have Ordo to burn
i have over a mil
Which lets be real most of us do
yeah i was thinking of waiting till they release 381+ rolls tho
That may not even happen
i only use brunts for weapons i really want
Like that and reds are pure supposition
which may or may not even be accessible in brunt's armory, but yeah
i feel like i should just save
i have like 3m and i dont even want to use em
Ordo easy enough to get, why not make fun stuff now IMO
my axe and purg are great,
i don't really feel a need to blow my currency just trying to get a good void or something, which i probably won't even prefer over purg
when patch comes maybe
i can't help but think if i blow it all now, i'll regret it later
I have 500k
I blew through 3mill ducats in brunts
I rarely go above 100K before I spend a bunch
this was mine before crafting
Was not good. Got a few candidates but ultimately, bricked
@cyan notch and the after?
I just craft stuff constantly
my weapons are pretty good so im mostly just hunting for blessings
yea 45k was spent for bloodthirsty
450k?
45k plasteel
oh
well at least your 4 other psykers can use bloodthirsty now too
I wonder what theyll do about diamantine
so how does blessing unlocks work for staffs? are each individual staff just its own thing and if you take a blessing from a voidstrike it can only go on voidstrike staffs, or is there an overlap?
i see, thanks for the info
had a tragic run in with a revolver psyker one night
In my experience, the runs I've had with gunker players are very rough, or end in failure (damnation)
More Lโs than I care to admit that night
gunpsykers are that stoner roommate everyone had in college who swears he's better at call of duty when he's high
he just doesn't notice how wrong he is
since he's high
you just gave me an idea on what i'll run on psyker next time when i play with people on my fl 
Your annoying and I hate you
just finding ways to meme my friends because im bored of t5
lmao where did that come from
Me
twitter boy
@floral solstice your annoying and i hate youre
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what a weird day
first thing i read on reddit is this (not dt subreddit)
now suddenly someone taking offense for no reason
idk man
maybe i'll see aliens later
That is very disturbing, probably some woke cult alternative math
yeah kinda, still disturbed that a guy i blocked still responding
oh well
later
Your fake and weird
oh man, i cant wait to put run and gun on this purgatus staff
i recognized that before i even played it
lol
i think that guy who did math is just high
bro you can't post ANYTHING without some people finding a reason to be offended
that's the lesson
yeah i guess the internet is weird
if i say "butterflies" or something someone will be offended
I see no point in energy drinks. Just cofee with a lot of sugar if you want both energy and rush will do the trick
it's a lot more than coffee, you get an overdose of B vitamins, and a bunch of other uppers that you don't really need
energy drinks are fine if you only drink them once in a while, but they're addicting so there's a lot of people who drink way too many
And the play Knife Zealots... badly ๐
but hey, in china men eat animal tesicles for virility lol
i'd rather drink energy drinks
knife zealot is a thing?
sounds fun tbh
well a lot of youtubers praised that it's op af
but they do the DR calculation wrong
i don't go by youtube
getting info from youtube is worse than discord or reddit
definitely less knife zealots these days
And while Knife zealot can be trully amaing, most of the players who try it - fail miserably and therefore turned Knife Zealot into the meme
90% of youtube vids are just clickbait, people reposting stuff from reddit or discord, or just flat out completely informationless waste of your time vids
only like 10% of vids labelled as "guides" or "builds" actually have accurate information in them
since most people in discord can actively be engaged and challenged by other players, the info posted in discord is usually fairly reliable, since it's being peer-reviewed all the time
reddit also, somewhat better because peer review
youtube, can't even see the DISLIKE count anymore lol
Because most of them cant replicate things that done in some youtube video ๐ But they want to bee cool
Update
build youtuber good?
on youtube we used to at least be able to see the dislike count to see if a ton of people disagree
but can't even see that anymore
and comments just get deleted or completely turned off
lol what is that dude, i'm using an unpopular build but my build still isn't even close to that off-meta
I use Google Translate I want to know if this option gun is good
Only if you're bad
singling, they're using a blue
that says all you need to know
Revolver is pretty rooty tooty
Shotgun can do up to 13k damage in a shot, to all targets.
bing chilling gun psyker
looks like a columnus iag iirc
There was a patch but if it was the actual patch I'm not noticing anything different
how big
186mb or something, I think I saw one for V2 too though which was weird
you mean this i think
oh yeah there's an update rn

orly?
ah hey i'm getting it now
In-game I didn't notice anything different and surge wasn't fixed
but since v2 and dt both seemingly got a patch, maybe this wasn't it
ninja psyker nerfs

copium
nothing on their twitter yet
Is use good build?
psykers have 100hp and toughness now
nothing on their forums yet either
check rashid
psykers now have 50 less hp per psyker you own
bloodthirsty removed from game
thanks for your plasteel blood

dude it's strange that they push this patch without any posts anywhere about it
probably soon
good?
well they don't explain some shit inside their own game

no good gun?
this is an understatement
its ligma
they don't really explain anything
dual laspistol when
Immeasurably complex
Hidden potential
Shared inventory is impossible but not shared blessings
still loathe this line
Its the most mumbo jumbo meaningless thing
BTW GREYS HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENTIL CUZ THEYRE NOT BRICKED YET
potentil, go back to school sir jk
im typing on my phone with one hand sugma
it's funny actually because blood is spelling police
what's the other hand doing?
when there's a patch but no patch notes, one of his hands doesn't function
kinda like how psyker likes to one-hand most stuff
but can block-push like there's no tomorrow
i hope toughness regen is broken OP again
We were promised a minor buff this week. But that promise does not cancel probability of massive nerf as well ๐
Normal shop item
2 diamond perk and rank 1 blessing with great stats, come on man
Normal shop is for blessing farming
So you can upgrade it for less plasteel

i mean i don't need 80% mobility but still dude
Smart.
It's already Tuesday and i have not started doing weeklies yet....
no change in cash shop
That makes me sad. I wanted some new drip...
no change in operative cosmetics
lmao
didn't fix flurry though!
i wonder if they only noticed that just now
How much it was before?
5-15, I think
cries in surge
I never used that feat before... will not use it still ๐
lots of people talking about voidstrike these days
yea it was 5-15
now im tempted to build one
It's still probably scaling up to 100%
Which makes it sucky
no change to MK II combat axe hitreg
But at least now you can hit 20% damage regularly I assume
it was 5% at 0 peril before, so should be 10% always
yea
fs special go crazy tho
Imagine if they doubled the max cap to 30% instead
probably still not better than inner tranq for the peril resist
Smh
wait purg left click looks idffernet
Ooo?
that's not good...
if they broke purg i'm uninstalling
"no longer staggers"?
maybe a nerf
also since when did they change that feat's name
that used to have the same name as ult
last patch
Wasn't it wider before https://streamable.com/2wwglp
i thought it hast least longer hitbox than before
seems same
*has
kinda like the visual change from beta zealot flamer to launch
It looks the same to me
i'm jumping into mission to see if purg was changed at all
yaeh
Purge LMB never had a big AoE
it probably just looks brighter in missions
because darker
what the fuck
I can see now
bullshit
f it i'll run the game to see
that's horrible, now i wont be blinded
I have to wait until after work to check the changes .. i so i'm grateful for information shared here ๐
The Hidden Potential โข
uh....
new psyker here, what are some melee recommendations?
yeah the purg LMB looks the same to me idk
Antax MK V axe with Brutal Momentum
Warning - it's highly addictive
apparently ogryn got one of their traits buffed
Pretty sure purg left click is at least visually smaller
watching some videos of the old
i should just uninstall
If ya feel like it, sure.
Nice hitreg
i'm so sick of this hitreg bullshit

sprinting still cancels your shit
I donโt think flamer or purg hitreg for LMB is that good anyways.
it went right through his face and did nothing, and it's only because i sprinted
Donโt live in rural Montana, best tip for psykers using purgatus.
when you sprint immediately after shooting flames with purg, the flames just get cancelled.
visually they are there, but they do nothing mechanically they don't exist
i'm not even switching wep, just sprinting
Thatโs a bit stinky then.
yes, it's extremely dumb
it's possible it's because i have run n gun blessing
which is even more a slap in the face
Nah it does that on normal Purge too

sigh
Yep
man theres no chinese voice acting smh
Most actions just delete the projectile
i'm posting that clip in memes
Well if it makes you feel any better, I donโt think any other language has the characters speaking natively other than English.
So the Spaniards are fucked
I mean tbh with how the game released I didn't expect dubs but
wouldve been fun to see the battle cries n shit
alright im swapping the game back to english so I can actually read shit
fml
hey that's great
congrats
just swap barrage with flurry n you good
terrifying barrage into flurry 3 or 4 and you're golden
now i can finally say i own a useable void lmao
and unyielding damage to flak
oh here comes the patch notes
Carapace damage isn't terrible on Void either
where the notes
Lmao
why is fatshark doing this to me
Warp Unleashed is ok
i wanted to play dawn of war today
wait
the tooltip ingame says wrack and ruin affects everything
is that a new change just now?
What does it say?
its always been like that
No
i remember it was limited on targets
They changed it from kill to hit
yeah hit too
well yes
but still elites tho
also force weapon is still useless
It needs to be at least 6 stacks and like 10m
oh did it always affect everything? i actually kept thinking it affected limited targets
goes to show i dont care much about the feat lol
i used it levelling up my breasts
purge weapon does 11 damage, before force weapon would up it to 13, now it ups it to 14
amazing
well yeah at super low levels all you were doing was BB kek
i'd be happy even if it was 5 stacks
imagine if longer range from wrack triggered DH lol
It probably can
Using Purge for its direct damage
that'd be funny

I mean it still holds true tbh
I guess you can use Force weapon as a coping mechanism if you get a shit trauma and need the damage to kill poxwalkers
but useless otherwise
the warp unleashed perk needs sometihng else
Voidstrike for faster shots
it needs to have reduced peril decay
Voidstrike is definitely the best option for Warp Unleashed
it's just badly designed no way to balance it imo
so uh do you guys aura + barrage on void or charges + ab
they either buff the damage all the way where its substantial enough to hit breakpoints consistently, at which point it will just always be taken
or its always just garbo compared to flat peril resist
I run aura + barrage
Yeah probably that
tho I barely touch void
@floral solstice
AB is acceptable too
essence drain and warp battery on void?
I'd probably run Warp Unleashed now though
i BB alot
Warp Battery definitely
does the damage even matter on void?
Yes
idk how peril heavy void is so not sure if quietitude can be used, but i guess yeah harvest seems better
It's the staff that you want to stack the most damage on
or transfer peril with quietitude is a thing?
it is
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Quietitude is the GOAT
i BB alot
in the time he could BB a shooter he could prob void staff and kill 3 pox walkers
i only use staff for hordes
but thats just personal playstyle tbf
What if there's no pox walkers
i use melee alot
Silly dog
you can still use the void staff on shooters
fuck it i'll use zero feats
and if they are grouped together enough it will still be more efficient
Did the electric staff get buffed or reworked?
nope
well imma test how much this thing damages elites but idk how void performs yet vs mixed hordes
wrong screenshot
both are useless tbh
Warp Unleashed good
unless voidstrike hits some new breakpoint
Wrack and Ruin bad
this is huge, derpy
its useless
psyker gaming has CHANGED forever
Ever again
lmao
good thing I'm screwing around with auto pistols on my zealot then
no anime in my psyker chat
I don't think anything is dumber than considering breakpoints as the only metric 
save for vet chat
I anime as I please
worst case scenario I'll just swap over to hsword bolter zealot
I see others using it and it seems to chain to other enemies
by default it chains up to 5
if an enemy would die it can chain up to more
LMAO hadron is ballin today, first refine attempt on that voidstrike i posted earlier
im not exactly too sure when it decides when to chain more than 5 but again generally it means that one of the 5 initial targets has to die
i hate flammer for the psyker but if they keep buffing i will be forced to use it
bad
no but seriously, it does seem like purg radius was shadownerfed
Did the buff counts psykers flame as well?
uhh im killing groaners with uncharged headshots
is this the feat buff doing work or was it always like this
0 warp charges
Always like that
game crashed
when i switched to a dif loadout
lol
switched from my main, to my purga, back to main
when back to main, crash
It lost like 50% damage to maniacs
Since the lights used to do insane maniac damage for no reason
this doesn't really help
It got "fixed"
my crappy atrox is killing maniacs faster than my headtaker antax now
i was a tac axe enjoyer anyway
BB wasn't as busted as antax lights before
does that mean that it's better now?
you guys were abusing a known exploit
(i mean ogryn BB)
its your own fault that you guys were abusing a bug and exploit smh
uninstall time jk
big bussy
tbh, i noticed how fast i always killed mutants and it did feel a little broken
shoo horny breasts guy
so i'm not bothered, mutants are so easy to dodge anyway
there were times i 1 shot them with light attack
and i was like.. .'ok?'
Warp Unleashed still feels pretty bad
heavies dont do much more than lights so its probably still better to light vs mutants
just play ogryn and box muties 
yeah i've always just light attacked mutants, mostly because i often hit them in the face as they charge past me after someone else
(and sometimes just 1 shotted em)
It does
Help to hit faster oneshots
On Void
warp unleashed needs to have slower peril decay perk, and deactivate that 10% peril loss on kill
But Flurry already helps so much with that
Since you just have peril resistance instead
dude it's flat out stupid that we have a choice between peril resist and + warp damage
they shouldn't be in the same tier
we should be able to use both
other tiers have shit choices
i'd love a viable high peril build
like a zealot low hp build (even though that's not that great)
but it'd be cool af if done right
anyway, the bugfix to axe is no big deal, it was confusing how much damage it dealt sometimes to muties anyway
i figured it was some kind of bug
overall a net nerf to psyker
its actually amazing
even as a bugfix this patch was an overall nerf to psyker
the thing is, it also feels like a bug that purg does virtually no damage to crushers
like, i don't even know why it's like that
they made a weapon that was actually used worse, and buffed two perks no one used
so inconsequentially that no one will use em now anyways
so yeah net nerf to psyker
that's usually what devs do tho derpy, they nerf everything to the ground until they're all equally shit choices
Wait
they sap the fun out of their games
I just noticed
You can't get the transfer peril
At 100%+
I'm almost impressed
It refuses to do that in Psykarnum
every game i've ever played has been like that, mmorpg's too
they're like "oh this is OP? ok we hit with nerf stick"
"oh this is OP? we hit with nerf stick"
it gets to a point where everything you liked about your character has been nerfed in 1 way or another, and the game simply is no fun anymore
and unironically, fatshark did that to psyker from beta to release once already
I only have a T1 but whenever I shoot at 100%
It seems to refuse to make it weakspot hits
i've seen my character do the hands raised animation like 'ohh ima blow up'
they've done it to psyker every single patch bar two
then peril climbs down from transfer peril
and im gucci
i've done that several times in a row
the first one was basically damage control because everyone hated the psyker changes from CBT to base
You do know that
You can get the 10%
they literally nerfed every aspect of psyker from beta to release nearly, and then hit us with a few more nerfs, and when people started finding and using bugs to our advantage because we had no other options, they "fixed" those too lol
and now, finally, they started giving us some buffs to get us back on track
From passive
And not blow up
yes
and the second one was an actually good buff to psyker in terms of warp changes
besides that yeah
i do
so bar two updates pmuch every patch has nerfed psyker in some form
yes the warp damage buff is a good change
i might actually switch over, the thing is.. i'm not sure if it's going to apply to purg the way i want it to
1 or 2 wont cut it
I wouldn't even call it "finding" bugs
its a nerf to everyone not just psyker tho
because purg is dot based and does small numbers, it might not increase purg dps as much as it sounds like it would
Apart from antax
considering half the damn "bugs" didn't even feel like bugs tbh
Weโre there also any other ninja adjustments
what the other classes still use antax
most people didn't they thought it was intended
The zealot
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people thought it was a way to incentivize using non force weapons
tbh if you ask me what really feels like a bug
next they're going to nerf people spamming weapon swap to look twitchy in elevators just to sap more fun out of the game
because that's just what devs do
having fun is not allowed
the autopistol feels like a bug
why should they incentivise people to not use force weapons on a force weapon class
the shitty pea shooter deals more damage than the shotgun, the flamer, or even the full on auto guns with the right blessings
silly line of thinking
they do they have Warp Unleashedโข๏ธ
true, but, then again maybe they actually will with subclasses in the future to broaden options
I mean another example could be the deflector reviving
i think im wrong
It's not to directly incentivize them so much as give you a reason to not use force weapons
from pygex's guide
"You can exit POW by quelling during the animation. The currently available methods are ult and Battle Meditation passive for example by killing something with soulblaze during the animation. Transfer Peril DOES NOT save your from POW."
people thought "oh well since you get auto block while reviving, with deflector it give syou the benefit of autoblocking ranged"
and yeah
Give psyker a benefit for not using them in some loadouts.
also a bug
It's likely that Battle Meditation procced then yeah
The word bug really bugs me
it makes sense your stamina doesnt go up while getting hit
Because when I think bugs I don't think "someone just forgot to turn off this thing"
so same with peril blocking
I think the quell nerds wouldnโt be so bad if psyker actually had more force weapons
it was BS sure but since it was the only instance in the game no one really questioned it
Melee wise anyways
people might've thought it was op but no one went "yeah this shit is an exploit it needs to get fixed"
i did
just patch after patch psyker gets hit with these bug fixes that just nerf
all the fun out of the damn class
cuz fuck antax spammers
what should i do. get warp flurry 4 for staff? or get bloodthristy for fs?
The applications of muggle quelling were the exploitative aspects of it, not the quelling itself
Being able to peril tank daemonhosts was likely something not meant to be done
honestly, nobody should be able to sit there blocking a monstrosity indefinately
especially not psyker
as soon as people started doing it and showing it off, everyone was like "lol that's broken af"
even the first time i saw an ogryn doing it i was like.. ok it's an ogryn but still wtf?
basically every class can block a monstrosity indefinetly
Except they shouldn't
it shouldn't be a thing
ogryns obviously had it easiest with fucking planted shielid
so why would psyker who had a whole ass trait dedicated to blocking be out of the realm of possibility
neither can zealot
Ogryns should be the only one even remotely capable of it
when you're hit consecutively in rapid succession it should cause more stam drain than if you're hit sporadically
kite yes block no
and monstrosity should be able to break block much easier than mobs of trash
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Anyone can
i'm just saying every class can stall (thats the word) a dh forever
Just reset your block break
the fact that trash mobs have virtually no collision and 10 can hit you at the same time is already stupid enough
Cheating or mechanics
and then ogryn had the specific ability to shielid plant
cheating
so if every class can stall a dh forever and ogryn can shield plant to literally afk, I'd argue that believing that psyker getting a perk thats specifically designed for blocking would let them block a dh indefinitely isn't that far out of the realm of possiblity
You're using that phrase wrong
The "realm of possibility" is for when you're comparing a theory to what's currently possible
The context of this is that we should not be able to tank monstrosities so easily
Or at all, on some classes.
no i'm using the phrase correctly
Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's ok
There should be terms -"cool option" , "fun design" - does not matter if it bug ... if it fits - keep it.
next patch, players will be unable to slide if out of stamina
technically
blockign while reviving is a bug too
its been confirmed it was a bug
that people liked so they kept it
from VT
Hell, let's keep in mind. We, as the detritus we are in this game, should not be capable of tangling with a Beast of Nurgle or Daemonhost at all, let alone kill these things
Being able to just stand there and soak up their everything breezy makes even less sense
ok bois which one, i honestly prefer mk 2 and headtaker in general
ogryns can do it, every class can stall a daemonhost indefinitely by dodging and blocking
i agree
i like vii lights better
why couldn't psyker do it when they have a specific trait for blocking
Because it's just blocking
ogryn can do it
just not brain off sit in a corner and hold one button down
We're the bloody atoman 5... or 4... it doesn't matter
It's the fucking ogryn, they're the tank class
anyways what I'm arguing is that people didn't think it was an "exploit"
ok thanks i'll choose mk2 jk
not everyone did
They should be the ones able to just stand there and tank the DH
u can if u want i just like vii lights for more sweeps
It smells like broke In here
i usually agree with you, but on that particular subject i always figured it was oversight/unintended
either way it doesn't matter, the only trend i see is that psyker keeps getting nerfs in the form of "bug fixes"
meh i'm not saying theres some motive
but yeah every patch bar two have been nerfs to psykers
isn't the sweep combo for this heavy-light-heavy-light, though mine has decimator so i guess i can light spam too
every class got hit with axe nerf, we had a couple traits buffed, one of which makes it actually attractive option now
ehhhh
idk which one you are considering attractive
they are both complete dogshit to me
i do push attack -> heavy repeat for cc just push attack into lights
i almost never do heavies cuz pushattack is the same but faster
unless force unleashed has drastically helped with breakpoints it won't mean shit
it's really not something you should sweat over
hell i'm more mad about shop getting nerfed dude
like blood said, now we might as well not even look at anything other than greys
which is really lame
and according to some quick testing its not that noticeable atleast
helps to 1 shot mutants
Force unleashed should have additional affects at least, make burning enemies take more damage
with FS?
yea
I mean i guess, but you could do that before as well
and even if you couldn't before thats a p niche application
Also
people say infinite block dh is broken
it really isn't
since dh passively gives corruption so if you really were dumb about it you would just get screwed by corruption even if you are just afk holding rmb
on top of that there are literal clips of zealots two shotting daemonhosts
what's broken is TH 3-4 shotting bosses
helps to 1 shot dreg ragers easier too
peril block is still stupid though
wdym really dumb about it
theres no way to avoid corruption from dh at melee range lol
Wrack and Ruin buff
I still doubt it's doing enough because veterans will just gib enemies anyway before you can finish the cast. They should just make RMB the same speed as LMB.
Hey listen flamers gonna get nerfed soon kill the th and all zealots are gonna be on suicide watch 
with pre fixed peril blocking you could just ooga booga rmb and clearly op
the wrack and ruin buff is pointless they should have just changed what it does entirely, it's still garbagio
but in reality compared to what other classes can do it really wasn't
Yup
they'll just keep buffing wrack and ruin until its meta
no other classes cant hold a button and afk besides ogryn which needed a specific weapon and forced you to not move
"hitting an elite or special applies 10 stacks of burn to everything in 50m"
lol it could be 10x stronger and it'd still be too circumstantial to be worth
No word on Brunt rolls but I guess I am going to test if they are still garbage
it doesn't matter cuz in the grand scheme of things doing that just means taking corruption damage and making the game harder. On top of that zealots literally two shot dh before they can do anything and I have a feeling a prepared bolter vet can do the same
I picture after a few more patches wrack and ruin will be overpowered for ascendant blaze builds
sheeesh hows that 1 extra blaze feel boys
This is how I see shit skills usually going to the point of relevancy
everyone who has aggro takes corruption damage regardless of infinite block or not so i dont really think thats a relevant point
Iโve seen it way too many times in Korean mmos
Maybe a constructive post from Guidemaker in Feedback forums will take a bit of attention from Fatshark that recent Wrak and Ruin buff virtually does nothing and completely meaningless, and feat as whole need to be changed
technically its a breakpoint hit, now you just have to apply wrack and ruin twice in order to kill a trash mob instead of 3 times
i use ascendant blaze build, wrack and ruin is still trash
good thing darktide is a korean mmo 
Currently still yes
wrack and ruin is probably okay with barrage
nah
I mean its relevant because peopel were saying that peril block is op and therefore clearly an exploit, but if you look at the grand scheme of things it really wasn't that broken in terms of balance
again i bring up shield ogryns, th zealots, and bolter vets as a comparison
it's seriously still trash, not even worth talking about honestly
ok u do u
Needs more stacks and aoe radius then maybe
love to deal an additional 3 damage to a crusher
m a y b e
and honestly I don't think Force weapon will mean much
they should completely change what it does
I agree
it kills every horde enemy/flak shooter around an ogryn you BB
Make feat that sync with guns
then we can actually have synergy with other 50% of our available weapons
if it applied to monsters then it would be pogging irl
especially since the only staff that people are excited to use force weapon on is voidstrike, which A) uses warp flurry, making force weapon redundant once you get the fast charge going, B) uses transfer peril, which literally goes against the dmg scaling of force weapon
its still 10% free damage
Or actually explode target on BB kill like that Flamer Blessing doing damage and stagger all around
This. Remove Wrack and Ruin, make Mind in Motion baseline and create two new feats for regular weapons / guns




