psyker-class

[olive ember]

Meh good enough cleave bleh damage but slaughter solves that

[echo turtle]

one is like 12 to 6ish, the other is atleast diagonal

but its base 100 damage

spamming FS heavies even with slaughterer is less cleave and damage than antax lights

[gilded viper]

[echo turtle]

It’s like, half the dps even into hordes as a dagger

[spice veldt]

not with slaughterer

2nd heavy cleaves 10 poxwalkers at max t3 slaughterer stacks

[echo turtle]

i think a chainsword with rampage does as much damage on a heavy swing as a Fs with full slaughterer but will also cleave more and is faster

FS bad

[gilded viper]

Surely the psyker buff this week will make psyker top tier

[spice veldt]

you can always find a weapon that does something better at a specific thing than the FS

the point is that it has decent cleave and a good special for single-target

[gilded viper]

Would chainsword just be better then fs if we not counting deflection?

[spice veldt]

it's good enough

[olive ember]

Chainsword really ain’t that good

[spice veldt]

i don't mean to say that it's better than any other option

I'm just here to say that the force sword is not that bad

[olive ember]

Slower than FS, worse special

[feral verge]

what day do they usually drop updates on?

[olive ember]

Far worse special actually

[gilded viper]

Ummm, Wednesday maybe idk

I'm guessing

[spice veldt]

though with the chaindrowdasdasd, the special has a higher chance of killing the enemy during the special

[olive ember]

I’ll guess Thursday

[gilded viper]

The what

[spice veldt]

the chowdad

the weapon that goes VRRRRRRR and KSSHSHSHSHHS

[gilded viper]

Ah

[olive ember]

Chain sword heavy is side to side so you will likely hit trash, it also has worse CC so half the time you will just eat shit while performing the special. The chain sword also inherently has worse range than the FS iirc. The FS can also knock shit like ragers down with the push attack and then follow up with a special. The CS would just get screwed by a rager

[spice veldt]

i never push-attack ragers anyways with the FS

i just hit them in-between their combos

their combo attacks have a respectable amount of delay

[olive ember]

It’s nice when they have 3 ragers at once

Push em down and stab

[gilded viper]

F

[spice veldt]

i'd rather just distance them and special them

push-attacks are always a loss of DPS

and if anything else, I'll just eat an initial hit for temporary stagger immunity and special them

[lilac tapir]

can someone remind me what are the best perks and blessing for a knife?

[gilded viper]

Lac and mercy * (*not sure about that one)

[olive ember]

I mean I’d say taking 3 seconds longer to perform a push attack is worth more than taking 3 hits for that extra DPS gain

[spice veldt]

you might as well let a teammate with a gun kill them at the point though

if you're not going to DPS them down with melee, just BB them instead

the point of melee is that it's a better DPS option than the other weapons

[olive ember]

I mean BB is slower and does less damage

[spice veldt]

yeah, that's my point

[gilded viper]

And crit chance and not sure what people run on the second perk

[lilac tapir]

thanks

[olive ember]

I mean I’d just kill the ragers with BB if I can, I mean If 3 of em rush me I’d prioritize force pushing em onto the ground so they aren’t on my ass

[ember hornet]

is swapping weapons between staff/melee kind of annoying sometimes, feels like dropped inputs

[olive ember]

And then kill em off one by one

[near wyvern]

You guys want to hear even more about spaghetti?

So apparently, Brain Burst does not do constant 1.1k damage but rather the damage is tweaked per enemy basis and only carapace has a 0.5 armour modifier.

This also means that every attack in the game has their own hidden armour mod value against each armour type on a PER ATTACK basis.

None of this is visible in game so good luck testing out when rending is useful and when not.

Source:
Got a Dev response for my bug report on Brittleness not increasing BB damage against Monstrosities and Bosses, which apparently is not a bug.

[olive ember]

It’s also more efficient on peril so it’s useful if I’m at line 70% peril and I turn around and there’s 3 ragers in my face

[spice veldt]

interesting; so it's independent of the armour type system?

[near wyvern]

BB is independent yes.

[gilded viper]

I always look at bb as true damage anyways

[spice veldt]

in my case, my force sword special generates 33% peril so peril efficiency is not something I think about

[olive ember]

Except it’s modified by armor so it isn’t true damage

[near wyvern]

This is the case except vs crushers and maulers

[olive ember]

Love darktide logic

[gilded viper]

Oooh

[leaden thunder]

does it not count the mauler as flak

iirc that's it's base armor type

[gilded viper]

Their head is carp

[leaden thunder]

yes

[olive ember]

Nope you are hitting its head

[leaden thunder]

but enemies have a base hp type

[olive ember]

Which is cara

[leaden thunder]

which is what dots deal damage to

I assumed that the BB counted the base hp type

rather then what was actually on the head

[olive ember]

You can tell it specifically hits the head because you get the yellow hit marker whenever you do a BB and it doesn’t kill

[hard oyster]

I like having low peril gain from fs special

33 sounds almost as bad as just BB

Slow ones

[spice veldt]

with the upside that they can be immediately casted once your passive regen kicks in

and they're faster anyways

even with the same cost, force sword specials are always faster

[near wyvern]

You are confusing it now with Soulblaze

[olive ember]

Wait how does your FS special generate 33% peril

It generates like 13% for me

[near wyvern]

Yea and Kinetic Flayer BB even procs Transfer Peril

[spice veldt]

it's the only good slaughterer FS i have

the plus side is that I can get 4 specials out of it from 0%

or well, that's more of a silver lining

[leaden thunder]

I was assuming it worked in a similar way

[near wyvern]

Noh, one burns the soul and other explodes the brain. Different mechanisms.

[olive ember]

You would think wearing heavy metal armor would make you take more damage from fire

[viral solstice]

u would think bleed would damage carapace

but apparently ogryn put armour on inside of artery

very smort

[gilded viper]

Thick blood I guess

[viral solstice]

but reaper opposite

reaper 8x thinner blood

[gilded viper]

Thinner blood because they smart enough to use a gun

[viral solstice]

thats how they work out if ur a reaper or a crusher

they take ur platelet count

bulwark also thinblood

[gilded viper]

It basic lore

[viral solstice]

highly respectable stat distribution thank u mr brunt

[near wyvern]

@viral solstice no it's just that the armour is so freaking tight it holds the blood in and prevents it from pouring out

[spice veldt]

go cut some onions

[near wyvern]

Shame Mobility was not 80

[viral solstice]

amazink

i never thonked of dis

and its a scuba suit

[olive ember]

Now to get complete trash for blessings and perks and cry

[echo turtle]

I just tested it in the meat grinder

if an enemy is killed while it has soulflame on it. it does NOT give you a warpcharge unless it was the fire dot damage that killed it

[olive ember]

Man people said that 2 months ago

Changed their tune to any death while on fire

So at this point idek

[leaden thunder]

I assume it's bugged in psyk

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like with pug heresy I either take the barbecue stick or we wipe

[olive ember]

Purge staff is the carry staff

[spice veldt]

it's certainly the best

i've had the easiest time being solo with it

[zinc phoenix]

I used to be able to carry with void too but it feels not as good now

[olive ember]

Weird nothing has changed with it

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve also noticed a worrying amount of “I go down followed immediately by rest of team goes down” 😂

[olive ember]

I will say average player skill has dropped across the board besides damnation

[zinc phoenix]

Which I think means my teammates get used to purge staff carrying them and play too aggressive

[olive ember]

Since all the good players are now in damnation

[near wyvern]

This is incorrect

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I’ve been playing since beta but I wouldn’t call myself good 😂

[gilded viper]

Idk man, lost a low in t5 because noone knew how to push or block

And run head first into shooters

[echo turtle]

go test it

[spice veldt]

hab dreyko really shows people's weakness in melee

[olive ember]

XD not every player in damnation is good

[zinc phoenix]

Pug heresy is bad enough I can’t imagine bothering with pug damnation

[near wyvern]

I have. How many enemies did you kill?

[echo turtle]

Like 30

[olive ember]

Just that pre patch all the sweats grinded like malice and below

Cuz that was most efficient to get shit

[echo turtle]

got 1 charge, from a tick killing it

[rocky cedar]

It's been tested lol

[olive ember]

But post patch damnation is actually worth running now so all the players have swapped over to damnation

[zinc phoenix]

I hated that and stopped playing because boredom, it’s much better now

[rocky cedar]

It's very well known how it works

[echo turtle]

I think they “fixed” it

[rocky cedar]

Any Psyker kill while the enemy is on fire can work

[echo turtle]

cuz it’s not triggering

[rocky cedar]

Even other Psykers

[olive ember]

Which means you are left with… how to say this nicely…. Those people… in the lower difficulties

[near wyvern]

Keep going

[echo turtle]

Im in the grinder and it’s not happening

[near wyvern]

It's a 10% chance

[olive ember]

Heresy is especially the worst cuz you get a bunch of malice players dipping their toes in higher difficulties

[rocky cedar]

There hasn't been a patch since last week and it was working for sure a few days ago when I was doing a Psyker duos with a mate

[echo turtle]

I think ppl are leaving flayer or communion on

[near wyvern]

I have gained 2 warp charges without communion without flayer in the grinder so it's definitely possible

That is on a soulblaze enemy

[wide tiger]

tier 2 perks are way more prevalent now

[gilded viper]

I just wish people would block and push enemy and stop thinking they can light spam the whole game

[spice veldt]

yeah, you get warp charges on even if soulblaze doesn't kill them

[echo turtle]

you sure you aren’t almost killing them and the flame ticks. Cuz I am in the grinder rn

[spice veldt]

https://streamable.com/fjgpc6

[echo turtle]

and it’s not happening

i will keep trying

[formal flume]

Nice pop at the end there

[zinc phoenix]

I mean if you dodge you can light spam through the vast majority of heresy 😂

[spice veldt]

5 warp charges in one blast was quite satisfying

[wide tiger]

Some weapons can light spam

heavy sword IX is great for light spam in hordes

[near wyvern]

Yes I have also tested it with a combat knife and timed the strike to be between the ticks

[olive ember]

I thought hsword 9 was heavy spam

[gilded viper]

Ok true

[echo turtle]

another 10 and no chatge

[rocky cedar]

No

[wide tiger]

Heavy spam is also good, its a pretty great weapon

[formal flume]

What's a good feat set up for someonenlike me who doesnt like using BB all that much, btw?

[near wyvern]

The only time it doesn't work is when you have blazing spirit and the target dies on the crit

[gilded viper]

But it just hard to watch people take avoidable damage if I'm seeing their pov

[wide tiger]

you can put your cat on your keyboard with a heavy sword

[rocky cedar]

Heavies have worse damage cleave

[echo turtle]

another 5 no charge

[rocky cedar]

You should always light spam into density with heavy Sword

[olive ember]

Hit a lot more tho in my experience

[echo turtle]

another 5 no charhe

[wide tiger]

i typically special-heavy elites and light spam in trash

[rocky cedar]

You can check damage calc if you like

But I'm a day 1 Zealot gamer

I assure you in most cases light spam is better

[gilded viper]

9 HS light spam frel so slow compare to the other hs

[zinc phoenix]

Til you meet something with armor and then it goes plink and you cry 😂

[olive ember]

Wait @still hearth pls confirm

[rocky cedar]

That is the correct way to use it

[olive ember]

Is hsword 9 a light spam weapon

[spice veldt]

mfing heavy sword talk in psyker chat

making me all jealous and shit

[wide tiger]

i just love it so much

[near wyvern]

You will get your force cleaver. When the game is dead.

[rocky cedar]

I use VI but they're all pretty similar in how you use them

[spice veldt]

nooo

[gilded viper]

I use 6 but idk why but 9 just feel slower to me, have this weird gap in between light that 6 don't have

[echo turtle]

so, I am lighting up groaners with 3 charges and doing overhead heaviea to them

[rocky cedar]

VI is way more stylish feeling

[echo turtle]

no charges are generating

[rocky cedar]

And honestly all heavy swords are very comparable in DPS

People are obsessed with the IX because muh minor optimisation

[gilded viper]

9 is 🤢imo

[olive ember]

This me

[echo turtle]

I have killed anout 70 groaners while they are affected by soulburn, and have not gotten a single warpcharge

so, It doesnt work

[wide tiger]

9's moveset is the best imo

[near wyvern]

Either there is something wonky going on in your grinder or there has been a stealth nerf

[echo turtle]

probably a bugfix

again

[gilded viper]

[near wyvern]

I guess I'll start my morning tomorrow in the grinder to be sure

[spice veldt]

works for me in the grinder

[olive ember]

I mean whether or not it works doesn’t affect how I will use purge staff (which is never)

[echo turtle]

I was going to build using wrack and ruin etc

but without that mechanic it doesnt work

[rocky cedar]

Is anyone else able to test at the moment?

[still hearth]

Yes

[echo turtle]

so testing in the grinder, using a + power weapon with + infested damage

[gilded viper]

At college about to take my exam

[spice veldt]

i tested it above by killing them with a trauma staff

[gilded viper]

I hate it here

[echo turtle]

4 charhes can call chaff on T5

[near wyvern]

Wrack and ruin is useless pile of 💩

[olive ember]

Tbf your test has you using trauma staff on a group of enemies who are afflicted with burn

Maybe you left some on a sliver of hp and then burned?

Idek

[still hearth]

I've tested

AB procs

[olive ember]

Wrack and ruin

[echo turtle]

I kmow, I was gonna use it in a 4 charhe gun build that generated charhes super fast

[still hearth]

So

[echo turtle]

to spam a 4 charge nova that clears chaff

[still hearth]

What about Wrack and Ruin

Is being tested?

It just goes off when you get charges, right

[olive ember]

Nothing it’s just a meme

[gilded viper]

Nothing

[echo turtle]

yeah so I would take it, if soulflame affected enemies gave charhe chance

they don’t

[still hearth]

It does

[echo turtle]

which I have confirmed

[still hearth]

[spice veldt]

here's me murdering poxwalkers on fire, https://streamable.com/zh7hy4

[echo turtle]

no it doesnt

[still hearth]

It 100% does

[gilded viper]

They testing the fire ult or something

[still hearth]

But okay

[echo turtle]

I just lit up near 100 dudes

[near wyvern]

@still hearth Rhinoxerous is claiming you don't get warp charges when you kill stuff with melee that are blazed.

[echo turtle]

and killed them with overhead chops

0 charges

so it 100% doesnt

[spice veldt]

and here's are the poxbursters jumping at me, https://streamable.com/1roh47

[still hearth]

I've got clips of it

[echo turtle]

the flame has to be wht kills it

[still hearth]

Literally doing that

[echo turtle]

cool

[still hearth]

So

[echo turtle]

i just did it

go see for youself

[still hearth]

Statistical anomaly

Nice

[echo turtle]

lol no

go to the grinder. Turn off communion and flayer

you’ll@see

[still hearth]

I have

And it worked

[echo turtle]

since the last patch?

[spice veldt]

i have aura and warp battery selected

[still hearth]

You can't gaslight me into thinking it doesn't work

I did it like 3 days ago

[echo turtle]

k well i can go in stream rn

and prove it

[olive ember]

Meh just do it again when you have time in case it’s a stealth nerf “bug fix”

[near wyvern]

This is what I will do tomorrow morning

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XI0EYtMdLxsGa/d1337nPj5fyf?invite=cr-MSxDV3IsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

Guess I'll just

Do it again

[echo turtle]

k do it

I have had it happen twice where I am not 100% sure the mob took full damage from the strike

but thats twice in 100 attacks now

which is far from 10%

hmmmm just happened on a crit tho

[olive ember]

Maybe it’s some BS with tick rate and burn ticks aligning? Idk I’m just guessing here

[spice veldt]

just got it from a melee kill

[echo turtle]

yeah, It seems to me like a bug may be making it happen. if thats the case it will be far from 10%. which is what I am seeing

[spice veldt]

could also just be probability

[echo turtle]

anyways, I was considering wrack and ruin to get more charges

becuase I am looking at using + power to do a 4 charge AB build fir T5

with enough + power and buffing the weapon for + vs infested, you can clear groaners and walkers with 4 charges

[spice veldt]

the binomial distribution with p = 0.1 and high n is very flat

[near wyvern]

Decimator 4stsack AB?

[echo turtle]

yeah

I didn’t slap + infested on itbyet but it gets them down to sliver of health

so it should be very doable

[near wyvern]

It should work nearly since all the ticks count increase Deci stacks as long as your last hit with it connected and you have it out

[still hearth]

So

[echo turtle]

what did you find?

[still hearth]

I think there might be something funky

[echo turtle]

right?!

[still hearth]

It's possible that only Psyker exclusive melees

Do it

[echo turtle]

lawl

[still hearth]

Because I tried the axe for like 20 guys

But the Dueling Sword it worked on

[olive ember]

Pls no

[near wyvern]

[echo turtle]

amazing

[olive ember]

Stop

[still hearth]

I need to test more

[olive ember]

Not more jank pls

[echo turtle]

weird tho right?

[near wyvern]

Try the dagger, that's what I got it with

[spice veldt]

it works fine for me

[olive ember]

Don’t you see guys

[spice veldt]

with the antax 5

[near wyvern]

@echo turtle what axe specifically did you use?

[echo turtle]

the axe it seemed to work on crits

[olive ember]

This is just a buff for the not antax

[echo turtle]

antax mk5

[still hearth]

Okay

I got it with antax now

[echo turtle]

just worked on my fs tho

10-15 kills

[still hearth]

Just a statistical thing

[echo turtle]

but not the axe

[near wyvern]

Emperor just playing his tricks

[echo turtle]

I dunno, seems like way less than 10%

[fierce sinew]

what if fatshark 10% isn't a normal, random 10% like we assume

[spice veldt]

in one of the videos i posted, i got 5 stacks from blasting a group of groaners

[fierce sinew]

like if something analogous to the "critical/weakspot" templating was going on

[spice veldt]

and there was no way I spawned 50 of them

[fierce sinew]

where it's actually 10% of some constituent value in their needlessly arcane damage calculation

[spice veldt]

here's a video of me doing it with the antax 5
https://streamable.com/37ipsn

i get a charge at the 0:25 mark

[gilded viper]

I just pretend the 10% isn't real

[still hearth]

So

It works

But who knows how it works

It's also possible

That it only rolls the chance

[near wyvern]

Killing 40 enemies without getting any stacks is still a 1.4% roll so not impossible with 10% proc chance

[still hearth]

If it ticks the DoT around the same time

[olive ember]

@long wharf quickly pull up the data mine for AB lmao

[still hearth]

[olive ember]

Code time again

[spice veldt]

could just trauma staff a bunch of flamed enemies see if you get any warp charges

since trauma staff kills them all at the same time

[near wyvern]

I will test this tomorrow but that is assuming the UI ticks are accurate

[still hearth]

Gonna trauma 100 enemies lets go

[spice veldt]

even if i trauma them in-between the ticks, I get warp charges

and i'm trauma-ing poxbursters

and i just got 4 warp charges from a couple poxbursters

it's almost certainly just probability that we're observing

[near wyvern]

Yes but here is the thing, if you go blaze enemies and start hitting them, you can see at times your blaze tick and direct damage get combined go a single number.

So could it be that when that happens, soulblaze is counted as participating in the kill, or is it just enough the target is soulblazed.

What we know for sure is that if the target is killed the moment blaze is applied, no charges will generate (acknowledged bug)

[spice veldt]

but if you trauma staff them at random times and observe warp charges each time, then it's very likely that it works as intended

unless the server tick rate is so insanely slow

[echo turtle]

Hey so just some@quick tests

[fierce sinew]

this seems plausible in fatshark land, if someone decided to do "died from" checks by just looking back some amount of time/events/etc and checking for soulblaze dot tick

[echo turtle]

this axe with 6 charges was able to kill flak wearing ragers

[near wyvern]

Blaze ticks are 0.75s intervals so we are talking about 1.33Hz here

[echo turtle]

It killed maulers

ok this is legit

[fierce sinew]

the server tick rate do be really fucking slow in fairness

[viral solstice]

i mean

why wouldnt it kill dem

[spice veldt]

it's very hard to certify this probablistic sort of thing without some hard numbers

[echo turtle]

6 charhes normally doesnt

[spice veldt]

especially with variables such as tick rate

[viral solstice]

im sorry i only use the good axe (rashad) i dont understand these antax shenanigans

[still hearth]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Ynu7iAX8WFFBx/d13374tKs8a8?invite=cr-MSxTb2wsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[spice veldt]

and i don't want to crash the game by killing too many poxbursters

[olive ember]

I mean we are talking more about how AB warp charges are earned

[viral solstice]

im sorry but warp charges earned with a rashad

are organic, gmo and pesticide free

its a better class of charge

[spice veldt]

yeah warp charges earned with rashad also breaks your spine

[echo turtle]

So, with a decimator/headtaker axe. 6 charges with the power up will drop ragers maulers and any kind of gunner

[olive ember]

How much more expensive

[echo turtle]

maniacs don’t really give a fuck

[viral solstice]

i mean u pay a lot for sure

but thats how quality w orks

[echo turtle]

so, the FS can do the same thing with slaughterer but it’s not as easy to pull off

[still hearth]

Everyone will be so jealous of my perfect rashad once the priority thing is fixed

[echo turtle]

btw you were saying how the push attack does way less damage

holy crap does it over

ever*

[still hearth]

Yeah it won't oneshot on ws and won't do cleave damage

But it staggers

Even less on rashad

Or achlys

[olive ember]

Minor psyker buffs coming soon TM

Zealot doesn’t get anything HAH

[spice veldt]

hopefully it's not a "we nerfed something we didn't intend for (bloodthirsty) but we buff something else" type of patch

that would make me real sad

[echo turtle]

getting the power up, hits after the 1st with lights ai have gotten to 90 with 0 charges

so, cranking up that power makes light attacks even without BM into a blender

ok so with 6 charges, bleed over attacks got to 110 vs poxwalkers

from light swings

[echo turtle]

A chainsword is literally a forcesword but better

[olive ember]

It really isn’t

It’s got a worse push a worse special less reach no deflector

Can’t quell

It’s got better horde clear sure but I’d rather just use an antax at that point

[spice veldt]

force sword's special doesn't do that much worse against unarmoured/maniac and does significantly better against armoured

[echo turtle]

lights are faster and do more damage, heavies are faster and do more damage

[rocky cedar]

I would have called chainsword bare minimum competitive with FS before passive quell fix

It's definitely more comfy horde clear

Loses out pretty hard against crushers for memory

But you have BB so eh

Deflector is whatever, if anything pushes FS clearly past chainsword it's slaughterer

[echo turtle]

chainsword weakspot does more than a fs weakspot due to the higher base damage

[rocky cedar]

It also feels like it has a wonky headshot hitbox

[echo turtle]

much faster attacks, much better damsge to flak

[spice veldt]

chainsword does not have headshot prioritization as far as I can tell

[viral solstice]

yes but have u considered that force sword is like

whippy slashy

it feels l ike ur floppin ur wrist

en garde

[rocky cedar]

TBC I personally prefer chainsword but slaughterer + AB is pretty hard to argue with

[clear hamlet]

best perks/ main stats for void staff?

[echo turtle]

chainsword + rampage does more damage than Fs + slighterer

[viral solstice]

also slaughterer soulblaze is absolutely hilarious

[rocky cedar]

Crab you keep pulling out banger emotes

[echo turtle]

that is cool

[viral solstice]

perks u just want flak and whatever, crit if surge or blaze, etc

[rocky cedar]

I thought I'd seen them all now

[viral solstice]

i gotta lotta crabs

and thicc f rogs

[olive ember]

Thicc frogs… i hang around too many degens

[clear hamlet]

what are the main stats to look out for tho

[olive ember]

Thought you were about to pull out a frog girl from an undescript folders

[olive ember]

Damage is important, dump stat is blast radius and quell speed

[viral solstice]

damage, charge rate

blast radius is only relevant if ur doing blaze

[clear hamlet]

tyty

[viral solstice]

warp res third most important

quell speed importance higher if ur doin quietitude and no transfer peril, less important if ur running da optimal pew pew

but in the end the most important stat

is self-respect

[real sapphire]

Can the trauma staff get good use out of soul blaze? I haven't touched it much.

[clear hamlet]

If I respected myself I wouldn't gamba on this shit ass fuck cunt system

[viral solstice]

thats negative self-talk and i wont stand for it

say "im a beautiful soldier of the emperor and i deserve oranges"

[clear hamlet]

im a beautiful soldier of the emperor and i deserve oranges

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-blank-stare-the-office-michael-scott-stare-gif-9263668

[olive ember]

It’s fine as psykers we are the smartest of the 4 classes

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/11jqvhu/preview_video_of_new_ear_wiggle_emote_for_new/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

This is the wrong chat

[clear hamlet]

FFXI was the shit

[mellow dock]

Guys is Warp Nexus any good on a Purgatus staff?

[olive ember]

It’s meta

[mellow dock]

ty

Good or sht?

[olive ember]

Its p good I forget what perks you want tho

Just fyi warp flurry is broke rn and doesn’t work but when/if it’s fixed it should be meta

[mellow dock]

ahh ok

so it doesnt work at all?

because it does for me

my staff charges super fast

infact too fast

[olive ember]

🤔 @near wyvern how exactly is flurry broke again

It might just be your normal charge speed tbh

[mellow dock]

no no

ive used purg alot

[olive ember]

Unless it’s getting noticeably faster as you spam right click

[mellow dock]

i have alot of them

its suuuper fast

[leaden thunder]

wasn't it sometihng where you had to lik

[olive ember]

Unless they shadow patched it before it was breaking if you had warp nexus in it

[leaden thunder]

keep holding it or soemthing

[olive ember]

You gotta consecutive cast right click

[mellow dock]

yes i constantly cast without charging more than min

and it is very quick

but the first time i use it without it active its regular speed

[olive ember]

I’d have to ask other people

I’m a surge main

[mellow dock]

gotcha

i use em all

[nocturne badge]

lets goooooooo

[wide tiger]

shit thats nice

[maiden wolf]

Does anyone know where that Psyker autopistol tutorial can be found? I thought I saw it in a thumbnail recently

[olive ember]

It’s the same as every other class with autopistol

[echo turtle]

omfg

I wanna see this thing with an ascendant blaze build

[maiden wolf]

There was a specific youtube video IIRC, I wanted to watch it.

[echo turtle]

point and shoot

I think the ulta and trigger the bonus damage tho

[robust relic]

is toughness regen speed on curio at all useful for psyker?

[olive ember]

It’s universally useful tbh

[spice veldt]

psyker's toughness regen feats are pretty good, but toughness regen speed is always good

[robust relic]

I've been running the quell one, its been working well

[olive ember]

The three main ones are toughness regen, gunner resist, sniper resist

[echo turtle]

yeah, But i hear essence harvest may interrupt it

[olive ember]

On curios

[echo turtle]

i am not sure tho

anyone know for sure?

[spice veldt]

i recall somebody testing it and saying that it no longer interrupts toughness regen

[nocturne badge]

honestly i prefer the rapid headpops to AB

[olive ember]

If you utilize peril blocking a lot then block efficiency is also useful

[spice veldt]

i can test it right now

[echo turtle]

barrage slaps

and would work well with the gun

[spice veldt]

nvm i can't test since i disabled the bot spawning

[olive ember]

Just run quicken ez pz

[echo turtle]

i just want to see a build that uses the +150% power to abuse soukblaze

quicken is trash

[nocturne badge]

wait does that work?

[echo turtle]

yes

power influences soukblze damae

[nocturne badge]

w g a t

[robust relic]

I use peril blocking but I find that mostly useful only vs ranged with deflector...I can push basically forever so it seems like I never need to block melee....

[echo turtle]

I have an axe that pushes soulblaze high enough to kill@maulers on 6 stacks

[maiden wolf]

I'm actually the one who discovered that interaction :P

[olive ember]

Dunno if block efficiency affects that I think it does but unsure

[echo turtle]

dope

I have wanted to start building into it

[spice veldt]

block efficiency doesn't affect pushing

[nocturne badge]

does it calc soulblaze damage on cast? or does it fluctuate as your blaze away ticks up/down

[echo turtle]

I have an axe with headtaker4 and decimator 4

[spice veldt]

soulblaze damage is modified by your current power buff

[leaden thunder]

^

[spice veldt]

rather than your initial power when you applied the soulblaze

[echo turtle]

it fluctuates

[robust relic]

this just popped up in my shop...so it seems like yes it's a good buy and maybe reroll mutant to combat ability recharge or something?

[olive ember]

Nah you want atleast +20%

[echo turtle]

its..ok

[nocturne badge]

gunner resist

[olive ember]

Ideally 21% hp

[robust relic]

its so rare...and camping the shop every hour so terrible 😦

[olive ember]

Yeah it’s a rip but yeah

I actually upgrade my curios from grey

That’s how I got my current curios atleast

[nocturne badge]

wow power really does make AB super good

who would have thought

[wide tiger]

So i've crafted like, 100 blues at this point... I have not gotten a single t4 blessing

rng can eat my ass

[nocturne badge]

143 damage/tic at 6 warp stacks

[nocturne badge]

craft golds

that's how i get mine

[olive ember]

Yeah I just wait for melks

[wide tiger]

Ive crafted a lot of golds too

[nocturne badge]

i gave up trying to get blaze away on blues after like 30

[wide tiger]

I cannot get tier 4 blessings

Melks has been my only way

[fierce sinew]

I've gotten 2 from blues so far and 1 from gold

it's just shit rates

gold is a trap

[wide tiger]

RNG is such bullshit, its not gonna keep players its gonna push them away

[fierce sinew]

I only fully upgrade things that have a chance to be usable weapons now

and that's not very many

[lucid terrace]

It’s weird how they can’t just let us build weapons by paying for perks and blessing (I.E. the higher the tier, the higher the cost in plasteel, diamantine, and ordos)

Instead of just having to RNG the whole way through.

[wide tiger]

I would fucking love to be able to just work hard and get what I want

[fierce sinew]

if they insist on these rates I wish there was at least some kind of pity mechanic

[wide tiger]

Instead of this dumbass mobile gaming gacha trend

https://giphy.com/gifs/netflix-marvel-jon-bernthal-3ohs7PXpe3try4q9yM

[lucid terrace]

YOU LEAVE THAT CHAIR OUT OF THIS

[lilac tapir]

That's why you shouldn't try to minmax now, just wait for Red items to be implemented (I know... it's going to be a while). Trying to minmax now is FS trap to keep you online longer and wasting your crafting mats.

[wide tiger]

It hurts me to my soul that you're absolutely correct

[robust relic]

grey curios? how do you buy those? I dont see any option in Brunt's

[wide tiger]

Chairs dead to me

[olive ember]

Oh no same one hour timer bs

[lucid terrace]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they make a post on their Twitter like “oh look at all these mats players used over the past month! Incredible!”

[olive ember]

But if I see it I’ll nab it regardless of color

[rocky cedar]

I know I'm late to this party but you should absolute use KB with autopistol

It covers most of its weaknesses

AB is just needless overlap

[fierce sinew]

here's hoping by the time reds are implemented (if they are) there's still anyone around to enjoy them

[lilac tapir]

and also you can bet that once Red items are implemented they will implement new currency needed to craft / reroll reds so people who stockpiled millions of crafting mats won't be able to benefit from it 🙂

[robust relic]

If they make a path where you spend X materials and get your "perfect" people will get their perfects and stop playing...that's why they don't do that. They've made it basically impossible to get perfect tier 4 on all stats, 380, and good % distribution while at the same time making it THEORETICALLY possible...so people strive and keep playing...

[lilac tapir]

yea it's like ultra slim chance to get perfect roll item with Tier 4 Blessings and Perks

[fierce sinew]

I think there are definitely people like this, and attracting and retaining those people are why these systems are the way they are

[lucid terrace]

You should’ve seen turtolsky someone posted in zealot chat. Actual god roll

[fierce sinew]

it's just a shame for the rest

[lucid terrace]

#zealot-class message

[robust relic]

keep buying greys until you get 370+ good distro, luck into a green t4 that you want, Ive never seen a blue with T4 blessing, not sure its possible, so that one is a wash, purple doesnt matter if your green perk was perfect, and then pray for t4 gold you want so you can replace the blue one. IN theory that can all happen. It's just this side of possible. It's also really really unlikely.

[fierce sinew]

it seems like these days it's hard to have any kind of loot progression without making it the central focus of your game

the magic space between none at all and soulcrushing grind just not what the market rewards I guess

[robust relic]

progression focus is odd in gaming now...I remember playing tribes all day every day and it had no progression system at all, you just played because you liked playing the game...that seems to have gone away in virtually everything but single player now

[lilac tapir]

you can also increase your chances and influence 2nd blessing % a tiny bit by rerolling blue upgrade Tier 1/2 blessing into something you don't want to , so that gets taken out of possible 2nd blessing roll pool (kudos to someone else who posted this strategy earlier)

[long wharf]

Tribes also existed in a different period of gaming

magnitudes more people play games now than when Tribes 1 released

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/Yo9sCBqLPINzE/d1337haluV6Y?invite=cr-MSxIZkYsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

goodbye monsieur le dogy

[fierce sinew]

my "main" games are fighting games and I'll treasure the obstinate conservatism of japanese development for as long as I can for this reason

[long wharf]

nowadays, if a game released for online play and got as many players as Tribes had at peak, it'd shut down and be considered a failure

because "successful" online games today have, again, magnitudes more players

simple fact of reality is that gaming has changed the more mainstream it became

things also cost more

such is life.

[robust relic]

And to hold those players at those volumes you have to introduce retention mechanics, basically manipulative gambling mechanics cleverly described as game play

[olive ember]

I mean

Ffxiv is just pure grind

[long wharf]

gaming as a whole isn't as predatory as people make it out to be

you do have the free will to simply not play those games

[olive ember]

Ffxiv also has a subscription

[fierce sinew]

"gaming as a whole" isn't really homogenous enough to make that kind of claim either way

[long wharf]

FF14 is an MMO, very different expected mechanics and player behavior

[wide tiger]

people dont play tide games just to chase the perfect roll

[long wharf]

literally everybody getting into an MMO understands the nature of the grind they're signing up for

[wide tiger]

no i hard disagree to that statement

[fierce sinew]

freemium/gacha skinner box storefronts with a game as the ui are exploitatively designed on purpose

[long wharf]

exactly

[olive ember]

I mean I like min maxing and rng mechanics def pisses me off

[long wharf]

and those are mobile gaming

[robust relic]

Eh, less than most people think. I've seen some of the presentations on retention mechanics...it's predatory by design and triggers biases and responses that people generally cannot control, at least not easily.

[long wharf]

which you could argue is not even really "gaming"

[olive ember]

Not necessarily a lot of pc games have introduced mobile gacha mechanics

[long wharf]

as it's certainly less than entertaining

[olive ember]

It’s p bad but yea

[fierce sinew]

LoL isn't and it's in this category

[lilac tapir]

same with gambling, it's your free will whether you enter a casino (be it a real one or online) and play the games or not 🙂

[fierce sinew]

while I'm personally happy to dismiss it as a non game legions of f2p third worlders disagree

[long wharf]

yes, it is, and I'm equally unironically ambivalent about real world gambling

[olive ember]

I mean fomo cosmetics with no decent f2p alternative, shitty rng progression, etc. etc. and remember we paid $40 for this if you didn’t get it on sale

I’d say there’s def some predatory shit that is/was in the game

[long wharf]

the best defense gamers have against bullshit is to be outspoken and critical of such design decisions

[cyan notch]

the penance cosmetics are pretty decent

[olive ember]

Only those tho, can’t buy shit from the armory

[fierce sinew]

being outspoken doesn't do anything if the thing is successful enough commercially

[olive ember]

^^

[viral solstice]

u ppl are playing to get s hiny o ranges, im playing to perfect my laspistol shovel combos

[fierce sinew]

that's not a video games thing, that's a reality thing

[viral solstice]

we are not the s ame

[olive ember]

Diablo immortal made so much money

[viral solstice]

[long wharf]

here's the thing though - there are plenty of games to play

[olive ember]

Despite the outrage

[long wharf]

plenty of devs don't go that route

[olive ember]

You can see it in the $70 price tag nowadays

[long wharf]

getting upset at people spending their money the way they want is just a fast way to an ulcer and equally as productive

[olive ember]

Once one company gets away with it other start to follow suit

[long wharf]

and then you know to avoid those companies, easy see?

[cyan notch]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/combat-axe-mk-v-weapon-card-displays-wrong-base-stat/76291
dude if this is actually a bug antax will be the best down with rashid

[fierce sinew]

I think one can observe an unfortunate state of affairs without being upset

[olive ember]

Oh yeah I don’t but it’s just kinda unfortunate that the gaming landscape is just getting worse and worse imo in terms of predatory micro transactions battle passes etc. etc.

[viral solstice]

fake it will never match up the beauty of the perfect axe (rashad)

[olive ember]

All at the expense of the actual gaming experience

[long wharf]

well there's the difference - I don't consider it "unfortunate" from an ideological perspective

[cyan notch]

burn the rashid

[viral solstice]

RA

SHI

[long wharf]

because there are plenty of studios that put out games that don't do the scummy stuff we dislike

[viral solstice]

i am rashid of the t urbulent winds

[robust relic]

The $70 price tag is part of the problem, almost 40 years ago nintendo cartridges cost $40, by inflation alone a new game should cost ~$122, more likely since teams are larger now and game scope is larger

[long wharf]

this is so totally wrong

[olive ember]

Technology etc. has made it cheaper to do a lot of things

[long wharf]

the consumer-cost of a brand new game has only very slightly increased over the last 3 decades

in fact, you can look at old Toys-r-us ads and see brand new NES/SNES games costing $60 or $70

[robust relic]

The artificially held down game box price has forced companies to seek alternate revenue streams

[long wharf]

it's not "artifically held down"

what the hell are you smoking?

[olive ember]

Yeah no they are just lining their pockets imo

[long wharf]

consumers have driven the progression of game prices

[fierce sinew]

I think even the most studiously selfish consumer can see the market pressures the "good guy" devs are up against and find it regrettable just because of the implication it has for his own future prospects

[long wharf]

it's pure market forces

[fierce sinew]

There are alternatives now, and hopefully continue to be

[long wharf]

the fact is gaming isn't more expensive today than it was 30 years ago

not only that, but the indie seen has absolutely flourished in the past decade+

[olive ember]

I wasn’t alive 30 years ago so couldn’t tell ya

[long wharf]

I was

[cyan notch]

making games probably got harder and more expensive

[olive ember]

All ik is that there’s a bunch of shit now that wasn’t around 10 years back, or atleast not as prevalent

[long wharf]

big budget AAA titles are vastly more expensive today than they used to be

but that's also because developers and artists are getting paid more today than they used to be

[robust relic]

my perfect world - gambling mechanics are banned, in game shops banned, to offset and keep games profitable: game prices rise as much as needed

[long wharf]

and even the term "AAA game" wasn't a thing 40 years ago

[long wharf]

your perfect world involves governments controlling every facet of game development

[olive ember]

Tbh idek what AAA stand for lmao

It’s always just been “Triple A”

[long wharf]

and thus nobody having games worth shit

[robust relic]

it was though, any nintendo game released BY nintendo, was AAA, the other companies were suspect

[long wharf]

AAA refers to quality

and cost

wrong

AAA started out as a term comparing a game to movies in quality of production

not cost of production

[fierce sinew]

I'd personally love a MTX ban with no strings attached, but the strings needed to make that happen would strangle the industry unfortunately

[long wharf]

nobody was calling Nintendo games "AAA"

trust me.

[robust relic]

"AAA refers to quality" I would argue that nintendo produced games were always the top quality product on the NES

[long wharf]

nobody called Half Life a "AAA" game

Nintendo games absolutely were high quality products

but that doesn't change the usage of the term

back then nor now

[robust relic]

they were the AAA of the time, terms can be applied retroactively to like things in like situations

[floral solstice]

reddit moment

[olive ember]

What?

[cyan notch]

boom

[fierce sinew]

euthanize reddit

[cyan notch]

2+2 is 4 -1 that 3 quick mafs

[long wharf]

regardless, the biggest reason why the cost of games hasn't kept up with inflation is that distribution costs have drastically dropped

advertising budgets are, aside from the biggest studios/publishers, non-existent

[fierce sinew]

who views ads anymore

[olive ember]

Oh one thing I hate about the modern gaming landscape is that they fucking ruin IP’s

Look at what the did to plants vs zombies

[forest coral]

Quick maffs

[long wharf]

you do, on almost every website you visit

in nearly all freeware app on your phone you use

[fierce sinew]

the only ads I come across anymore are the ones that play at gas pumps

[long wharf]

ads are everywhere

[olive ember]

Prob used Adblock

[fierce sinew]

I block ads

and so does everyone else

[long wharf]

oh, so do I

[olive ember]

I don’t

[long wharf]

uorigin adblock

[olive ember]

Too lazy XD

[long wharf]

no, definitely not "everyone else"

tech-savvy people do

[fierce sinew]

I'm sure they're everywhere, but nobody (that I know) actually sees them

[olive ember]

That’s a theme with me tbh I’m too lazy to download extra shit

[floral solstice]

some dude said something like "bro did meth instead of math" lmao made my morning

[long wharf]

most computer users are not tech-savvy

[robust relic]

I don't bother blocking them, they don't bother me, and if some site has ads that are too intrusive I just stop using it

[long wharf]

your average internet user is a mobile phone owner on facebook, tiktok, youtube, etc

and they are seeing ads constantly

[olive ember]

That’s me

[fierce sinew]

now I'm imagining little tablet timmy who decides he rather likes the look of that video game in the ad between the penis enlargement pills and nigerian tax filing service

or whatever it is these days

[olive ember]

Hero wars

[floral solstice]

i only watch ads and skip all other content

[long wharf]

little tablet timmy is using his mom's device

[robust relic]

this is the way

[long wharf]

where she's downloaded the latest game she's heard about that's "educational", that has ads constantly displayed on the edges of the screen

or pops up a full screen ad every level

or any number of things mobile devs do to drive adviews

[olive ember]

Candy crush

[gentle rose]

I came here to discuss psyker builds but I can tell this is not the place for me 😛 I'm gonna go watch some ads

[long wharf]

there you go

emperor made those ads to be watched

only a heretical chaos worshipper blocks ads

[fierce sinew]

adblock is heretical xeno technology

[robust relic]

this conversation started as builds/gear and then it turned into the loot system is annoying and gambling and then this, it will go back to builds soon probably

[forest coral]

Adblock is a gift by the omnissiah

[long wharf]

if the mk v caxe gets finesse, my psyker is going to be even more effective with it

[gentle rose]

Ah yes the adeptus blockanicus, little known imperial organisation. Sometimes contracted to adblock

[olive ember]

It’s psyker chat where we discuss everything that comes to mind

[fierce sinew]

buffing antax with finesse seems like a wild choice to make, regardless of the original intent

[long wharf]

at least it isn't filled with the weaboo bullshit in vet chat

[fierce sinew]

I'm here for it

[robust relic]

so going back about 17 pages, you all would say don't waste the currency on that curio because 18% hp, wait for 20/21?

[fierce sinew]

which currency

[robust relic]

whatever Melks crap is called

[olive ember]

https://youtu.be/D0q0QeQbw9U

I love anime

[long wharf]

I wish the forum user "nukehaus" was here so I could virtually berate them for calling blessings perks

[fierce sinew]

milkies are exclusively for t4 blessings now, dockets are worthless and can be spent with impunity

[forest coral]

If you have nothing better why not

[leaden thunder]

melkcoin, melkbux, melkies

[forest coral]

It’s not hard to get melks now

[long wharf]

Milkies

the name is Milkies

[forest coral]

[long wharf]

they come from Sour Milk

[forest coral]

melk’s milkies

[long wharf]

and I will straight block you

[olive ember]

;-;

[long wharf]

as well as report you to the Ordo Hereticus immediately

[olive ember]

Would anime be considered heretical

🤔

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-slaughter-furry-die-gif-19087693

[robust relic]

that would lead me to answer no then, sadly I only have about 2500 since I stopped playing for a few months in the "loot system is dumb AF" period...so I will horde my 2500 and wait for a t4 I want

[ripe spire]

yay or nay

[spice veldt]

stats and stuff don't really matter for surge, so meh

[long wharf]

I wouldn't prefer charge rate to be the low stat, but it's usable

[olive ember]

Furry is different from anime

[feral verge]

rare instance of melk having a decent curio

[forest coral]

Yay. That’s good

[spice veldt]

wouldn't waste my milk bottles on surge

[olive ember]

We can all agree that furries are heretical

Unless you are a vet

[long wharf]

Weaboo/fanservice anime is the gateway to furrydom

suffer not the weaboo

spare not the otaku

[robust relic]

my surge is pretty good

[leaden thunder]

my brother in the emperor

you play the class powered by warp and anime

[long wharf]

he owns the Imperium, and he'll ban me, right?

oh, my bad

I read that "my brother is the emperor"

thought you were going a different direction with that

in all seriousness, I do enjoy quality anime, but absolutely despise and loathe weaboos

[forest coral]

Just double checking on trauma staff real quick

[long wharf]

I'll periodically go on a manga binge

[forest coral]

Transfer peril doesn’t work on the charge attack right

[leaden thunder]

it can

[long wharf]

no

[spice veldt]

only with kinetic flayer

[long wharf]

trauma can't hit weakspots

[forest coral]

Gotcha

[leaden thunder]

is it kinetic flayer doing it

[olive ember]

I mean I only watch/read rom com anime

[spice veldt]

as far as I can, it's flayer that's proccing it

[olive ember]

So I have a feeling you would despise my tastes

[long wharf]

ew, god man

[leaden thunder]

that's less funny then it being screwy and just doing it sometimes

[long wharf]

have you no self-respect?

[olive ember]

XD

Nope

[spice veldt]

just that it's hard to see it through the explosion's vfx

[olive ember]

Quite honestly

[long wharf]

understood writes down a note to self

[olive ember]

I mean could be worse, I could be one of those power fantasy isekai addicts

Or… shudders

[feral verge]

thoughts on stamina?

[long wharf]

there's some anime whose sole redeeming quality is to showcase part of what's wrong with Japanese pop culture

[long wharf]

stamina good for kinetic deflection

[olive ember]

I mean Japan as a society is like every other east Asian culture

Conservative as fuck

But anime

Truly an outlier

[spice veldt]

stamina is good for pushes

[long wharf]

... have you never seen a used panties dispenser in Japan?

[spice veldt]

and if you don't run kinetic deflection

[feral verge]

i got this from melk

[long wharf]

the absolute obsession with "idol" behavior and underage girls is, frankly, sick

[olive ember]

Well conservative but degenerate

[feral verge]

i'm losing out on 24% hp tho

[long wharf]

what did you roll off?

[feral verge]

actually, 19%

[long wharf]

cause that's a solid curio

[feral verge]

22% toughness regen

[spice veldt]

up to you

[long wharf]

I like having block efficiency on my curios

oh sad face

[spice veldt]

i run 1hp/1tough/1stam

[long wharf]

I'd have rolled off the 5% health

[olive ember]

2 hp and a wound

[feral verge]

i like my hp

[long wharf]

toughness regen is very good right now

[olive ember]

Have strongly considered just running 3 hp

[long wharf]

I roll 2hp and a +3 stamina

I have toughness regen on two curios

block efficiency on all three

[feral verge]

yeah that's why i rolled off the 22% toughness regen, into 30% toughness regen

[leaden thunder]

toughness regen

[long wharf]

oh ok, my bad then

[feral verge]

i have 90% regen in total

[long wharf]

though I'd still have kept the 22% toughness regen and rolled the 5% health off

[feral verge]

260 health, if i run the hp curio

[olive ember]

Anyways like talk about the recent and most hottest anime

[long wharf]

5% isn't going to save you at any time

but block efficiency can

[feral verge]

nah

i've surived off of slivers of hp

[long wharf]

or, if you're lacking resistances, get sniper resistance on there

[feral verge]

to get healed later

whereas otherwise i wouldve been downed

[spice veldt]

block efficiency probably isn't too needed for any melee that's not the force sword

[olive ember]

You mean you haven’t lived by the 3 hp carry

[long wharf]

it's useful across the board

kinetic deflection makes it useful

[feral verge]

i have block and stam on my force sword anyway

[spice veldt]

i rarely ever block, at least not intentionally

[long wharf]

I'd roll that +1 stamina to something else

you can get +20% block efficiency there

[fierce sinew]

The real question is why t3 and t4 stamina perks are both 1 stamina

[spice veldt]

if you run warp unleashed, +maniac will bring you to the breakpoint for 2-shotting mutants with light-special bodyshots

[fierce sinew]

would 2 whole stamina on weapon really be that busted

[long wharf]

although since you don't have +stamina anywhere else, I guess you'd get more out of that +1 stamina only if you use KD

[feral verge]

i do use KD

[spice veldt]

stamina is even more important if you don't use KD

[long wharf]

without using KD, +stamina is pointless

[orchid nacelle]

ever since i discovered KD deflector i basically hold block for the entire mission

[long wharf]

nah, without KD, you shouldn't even bother blocking

[feral verge]

idk what i'd change stam to

[long wharf]

dodge

[spice veldt]

block-cancelling is a part of the force sword's combo

[feral verge]

i dont really need flak or unarmored dmg

[spice veldt]

regardless of what you want, you will get hit and stamina will be taken away

[feral verge]

slaughterer takes care of that for me

[orchid nacelle]

i'm cosplaying as shieldgryn

[spice veldt]

i recommend +maniac

for mutants

and dreg ragers

[long wharf]

with fsword, you don't even need to block

just do the free push until you have space

[spice veldt]

my point is that you're going to get hit regardless, and pushing takes stamina

[feral verge]

yeah i do that

[gentle rose]

I block when ressing someone just because its piss annoying to finish ressing someone only to get poked by an attack that you would have blocked while ressing 😛

[spice veldt]

if you don't have the attention to focus on pushing/dodging correctly, then you will run out of stamina even with stam regen

[long wharf]

well, you block automatically when picking up teammates anyways

[olive ember]

Tbh I found you don’t even need to block cancel

You can do light heavy light

Since it goes back to the third part of the light combo which is actually rly strong

[spice veldt]

3rd light sucks ass for anything except racking up slaughterer stacks

it has shit cleave

[olive ember]

I mean it’s basically a guaranteed kill on anything you touch

Especially since it follows the heavy 2

[long wharf]

I really dislike the fsword moveset

[feral verge]

mm big stamina bar look nice

[gentle rose]

Yeah but I block in addition to the auto block, because after you've finished picking up a team mate there's a fraction of a second where you aren't auto blocking, and the camera hasn't returned to first person

[long wharf]

I'm very much hoping we get a 2handed force sword

[olive ember]

It’s quick enough as well that it doesn’t rly effect me atleast

[feral verge]

i need this

[long wharf]

we all do, sibling

we all do

[olive ember]

copium overload

It’ll be here next patch guys

Trust

[long wharf]

nah, that's hopium

[leaden thunder]

*patch after next

[long wharf]

copium is pretending things are fine

[leaden thunder]

next patch is this week

and almost certainly no new content in that

[feral verge]

with this 3 stam curio i lose 29 hitpoints

[forest coral]

Next week tm

[feral verge]

231, down from 260

[olive ember]

I’m p sure arcotash was still coping that we would get a new weapon this coming patch

[long wharf]

the community is going to have to understand that there's so much still needing fixing that new content is a long way off

[spice veldt]

it's not coping if it's true wink wink

[olive ember]

Lmao

[spice veldt]

if i believe it

it'll be real

[olive ember]

Truly a psyker mindset

[feral verge]

0% chance we're getting weapons this patch

[long wharf]

there's a nice German saying I'm rather fond of that applies here

[feral verge]

way more likely to get sometihng at the end of the month patch

[long wharf]

"Don't be so open minded that your brain falls out"

[olive ember]

Wat exactly needs fixing now tbh besides optimization

[floral solstice]

they changed an ogryn feat, why is meme in motion/wrack still a thing btw

[long wharf]

psyker feats are a hot mess

[spice veldt]

2h force sword is real

[long wharf]

blessings still broken/nonfunctional all over the place

[olive ember]

Well I’d consider that new content tbh if it’s a whole ass rework

[forest coral]

The 2h force sword is reeaaal

[olive ember]

Idk we’ll see not much we can do but wait

[long wharf]

yep, not much we can do except report bugs

[feral verge]

in that weapon icon leak or whatever

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-chopper-chopper-one-piece-crying-crying-meme-gif-26577246

[ruby karma]

Do psykers feel better now?

[feral verge]

there were 3 force swords

[gilded viper]

Fuck 2h force sword where my force dagger

[long wharf]

not yet

[gilded viper]

Idek if that real

[olive ember]

Define “better”

[floral solstice]

wheres my force shovel

[olive ember]

I mean they had force halberd and force hammers

[gilded viper]

Use gun psyker, trust me bro

[long wharf]

right next to the toilet where you force poop

[feral verge]

come on, psyker does feel better than launch

BB doesn't decay

[spice veldt]

we still have no force ranged single-target DPS option

[feral verge]

it's a step in the right direction

[olive ember]

In lore there’s a force hammer that’s just a thammer, but force enhanced

[floral solstice]

you need 2h shovel for that

[olive ember]

There’s a force bolter known as the psycannon in lore as well

[ruby karma]

Than launch. Like, BB still no point in using etc etc

[leaden thunder]

there is a force/power version of like

every melee

[feral verge]

lol

[gentle rose]

You seem to be able to bb with about 98% perils without exploding, that's nice 😛

[long wharf]

coming in a DLC, promise

[spice veldt]

97%

[feral verge]

BB is very important

[gilded viper]

That the biggest cap I ever heard wtf

[olive ember]

It’s better just dunno how much

You would have to try out psyker for yourself and see how you like it tbh

[long wharf]

BB got a slight damage buff, but it's still mechanically clunky

[feral verge]

yeah right click feels bad

[spice veldt]

also, peril is presumably stored as a decimal value because you can still explode if you cast at 97%, so it's better to be on the safe side and cast at 96%

[leaden thunder]

my brain is fucked

[feral verge]

sometimes if you switch to left click in the middle of it, BB breaks

[leaden thunder]

I started reading that

[long wharf]

I think the pre-charge nonsense should just be removed entirely

[leaden thunder]

and just immediately though

[gentle rose]

I did it with it reading 98% in the psykanium but that might have been a bug

[leaden thunder]

peril is stored in the balls

[long wharf]

other classes don't need an alternate fire more for their grenades

[long wharf]

okay, this made me actually chuckle

[feral verge]

female psykers ahve balls

[spice veldt]

smh

can't believe i'm in the same chat as such a person

[olive ember]

I mean it had niche application in theory… then damnation scaling happened and the pox hounds take like 2 or 3 BB now to kill

[long wharf]

you get a cookie.

[gentle rose]

But yeah in practice if you just tap manual quelling you will drop to like 95% and then can BB over and ovef

[feral verge]

it'd be nice if 6 stacks with wapr battery were enough to have important dmg break points, like being able to 1shot a burster

and kills with force sword special should count as a BB

[olive ember]

If you slap in CL you can basically 2 shot everything except one of the ogryns

[ruby karma]

Imagine, BB was on a long CD, instant cast and a quell option.
Or was a continious damage dot you apply, until target dies.

[spice veldt]

i think it's fine since bursters are put at very low HP by it