psyker-class

[safe crystal]

Imagine, you get tagged by a gunner

Then you have to SLIDE to him

To get your toughness back

[gilded viper]

Mk 1 autogun is best from experience

[idle bay]

gun have to be spacial in something to be a meme - thats why i'm asking 🙂

[safe crystal]

Thats the build

[gilded viper]

oh it go brrrrrrr

that why KEKW

[safe crystal]

Mine simply had 69 damage 🙂

[gilded viper]

outside of curio cause im too lazy to switch it, my sword was the only "try hard' item i had

[safe crystal]

OH RIGHT

[gilded viper]

wasn't going to count curios

[olive ember]

It begins

[gilded viper]

i mean i guess +3 wound would be trolling but the build itself is already enough

[olive ember]

make loadouts

[safe crystal]

Big E gave me this when i finished, he wants me to keep going

[olive ember]

I have a loadout per staff and then the meme

[hexed sage]

What are good perks & blessings on the trauma staff?

[olive ember]

holy shit

what is this crosshair

[safe crystal]

Blessings, flurry + rending shockwave. Perks, unarmoured + flak

Or infested + flak

[gilded viper]

the eyes of the god em

[hexed sage]

Hm, so would you upgrade this one?

[safe crystal]

Yes

[olive ember]

ITS SO SHIT

THE GUN

XD

[safe crystal]

5 shots for anything to die

YOOO

[gilded viper]

yes

[safe crystal]

I lost my will to play when it did NOTHING to ANYTHING

[spice veldt]

ooh it's got +unarmoured on it already

seems pretty good; charge rate and blast radius aren't 80%, but beyond that, the staff looks pretty good

it already has rending shockwave which means you can slap warp flurry on it if you don't roll it while consecrating it

[stuck shoal]

which one is better

[safe crystal]

Left

Or first one

[stuck shoal]

because of the burn right?

[safe crystal]

Burn, and the cloud radius is high enough

[stuck shoal]

aight

thank you

[still hearth]

Neither is exceptional though

But Purge is exceptional

So you can get away with it

[safe crystal]

Yep, i would upgrade maybe up to blue to roll for a blessing, then forget about them

[languid cipher]

Mhmm I can not see the scoreboard

:/

[stuck shoal]

exceptional?

[brittle crest]

what blessings/perks do you want on purg staff anyways

[stuck shoal]

i don't know i just reached lvl 30

[still hearth]

It's okay but could be much better

[stuck shoal]

idk what is good 💀

[safe crystal]

+Crit and +flak is what i have. Warp nexus for blessing, then whatever for the second one

[brittle crest]

or is purg like zealot flamer in that perks/blessings don't really matter that much

lol

[stuck shoal]

purgatus is good for staggering hordes

[still hearth]

Purge is just a slightly worse Flamer

But the upside is that you can just

Spray

All the time

[north cradle]

Infinite ammo tho

[stuck shoal]

yes

[still hearth]

I'M GETTING THERE

RELAX

[stuck shoal]

and when you're out of purge just F

[still hearth]

It does like 80% of flamer damage

But you just use it all the time

Infinite flamer is great

[brittle crest]

i didn't even bother upgrading mine

[still hearth]

Jay

[stuck shoal]

fuck i am out of plasteel wtf

[still hearth]

Give me your staff

Thanks

[brittle crest]

ok

[stuck shoal]

why does it run out so quickly

[brittle crest]

u can has it

[still hearth]

You have to play at the highest difficulty for plasteel

[brittle crest]

i'm bad on psyker anyways

[north cradle]

Zamn

[still hearth]

I'm also bad its okay.

Tbh my Purge is almost like that

I think my resistance is like 60%

[eager wagon]

Sadly Surge only works on left clicks for Trauma

[still hearth]

Ranged crit chance and crit damage

Ouf.

[north cradle]

I still think Beam Staff should be recreated from Vermintide 2, that was my go-to weapon for Sienna

[eager wagon]

I applied the crit chance to test Surge

[still hearth]

Did anyone figure out if it double shots on Void secondary

[safe crystal]

Still working on it

I'll get the blessing

One day

Surely

[still hearth]

Gonna run Warp Flurry

5% Crit

And Surge

Get those balls out

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-pew-gif-14552925

[safe crystal]

Yeah, thats what i wanna do as well

[still hearth]

It'll still be worse than Transfer Peril

But whatever

Balls

[safe crystal]

Also bloodthirsty + blazing on FS

[north cradle]

It's what it's

[safe crystal]

But i cant seem to get the funny blessings

All i get is

Slaughterer 4

Or some shit

[still hearth]

I hate when I get the meta blessings

[north cradle]

I wish I had your problem

[safe crystal]

Why cant i have the funny ones

[idle bay]

That moment each week when you complete all weekly missions for 4 characters and can finally play the game on you favourite class again 🙂

[north cradle]

I do have a Deflector 3/Slaughterer 3 Force Sword, and it can one-shot Poxwalkers on heavy headshot, which is nice

I wish there were buff icons from weapons so I can track what's working

[safe crystal]

Clarity, in MY Tide game?!

[still hearth]

I imagine there's a mod for that soon

[safe crystal]

Preposterous

[idle bay]

There is mod already that shows unlocked blessings.. while Fatshark only thinking about it

[still hearth]

Modders do free work

Fatshark busy, uh

Adding something

Minor Ogryn and Psyker buffs

Tbh I think that a lot of their staff is still working on new content

They just put more people on fixing stuff

[gilded viper]

yeah didn't they basically have a whole content hold rn

i wonder if the game is "fix" in their eyes now or does it need more fixing before more content

cause no lie, was looking foward to see how they did the BP system (yes ik BP and mirco tranaction bad but i given up years ago)

[still hearth]

Basically impossible to tell without clear communication

But at least we get a decent amount of info now

[gilded viper]

honesty it good they not telling us imo

[still hearth]

It's not a clear good or bad thing tbh

[gilded viper]

feel like people would go crazy over either the IDEA of it or be like dogs and be like "WHERE IS IT WHERE IS IT WHERE IS IT WHERE IS IT WHERE IS IT "

[still hearth]

But yeah full transparency can easily backfire

[gilded viper]

basically backfired at launch, but then again it was more failing to do promises then being full transparent

[still hearth]

They really picked the worst time to release the game too

I mean it was the ideal time for sales

[gilded viper]

yeah

[olive ember]

still alive

[gilded viper]

no lie if the game was a single player experience or whatever the fuck VT2 was, it would be fine.......maybe

[safe crystal]

How long have you been there

[still hearth]

If the game ever gets up to 10k players daily

Then its probably going to be fine

[gilded viper]

but live serivice going AFK for 2 month cause of holiday + getting shit together afterwards, really put this game behind

[still hearth]

Its slowly climbing back up because of actual fixes

I'll never forget that the plan was to leave the game in its state

And make a console port

As a priority

And I'm not blaming Fatshark particularly. Shareholders and whatnot can surely be attributed

Since the console ports have never been much of a selling point afaik

[gilded viper]

feel bad for console player but i also feel like telling them to just buy a pc , they know the trend

[still hearth]

They get great console games that don't even come out on PC

Or come out like 2-3 years later for PC

[gilded viper]

depend if that a ps4/5

[north cradle]

Damn you Konami

Give us Metal Gear Solid

[still hearth]

No

[gilded viper]

but this is xbox, which at this point get the same games pc players get now

[north cradle]

And Gears of War 2 and 3

[gilded viper]

don't remember a LASTEST xbox exclusive game

[north cradle]

Kinect Sports Season 2

[still hearth]

I gotta say Darktide is a very tight game when it works

[gilded viper]

for this gen or last for xbox (talking shit cause i don't own one so idk)

[still hearth]

But the big issues are really the progression system

And various other quirks that make things unnecessarily difficult

For no benefit to the players

I can't believe

We went from 31% positive reviews

To 44%

From them making grinding less tedious

And its still a fucking slog

[gilded viper]

honesty it the same way VT2 felt for me, out of my 50 horus in it i never level another class instill i got a friend the game

[still hearth]

Its just less of a slog

[north cradle]

We live in a society

[gilded viper]

cause i was like "man level 1 again, no thank u"

[still hearth]

People are so quick to turn around

Have some standards, guys.

[north cradle]

I blame the Early Access Zombie Survival Crafting game craze

[still hearth]

Buying into a game being good

In 7 years time

[gilded viper]

tbh most people complain was crafting, which for me i couldn't care less, and promise breaking which i didn't heard none of cause i only knew the vt2 team was making a new game and that was it

[still hearth]

Is just such a stupid concept

At least if I'm paying full price now

If I'm paying 5$

Then sure

I'm down for a shitty, buggy experience with promise

[north cradle]

This is only my second Fatshark game, and I started VT2 two years after launch and modded

[still hearth]

I barely touched the Vermintide games

But they were fun if you didn't play them seriously

Which Darktide is also

[gilded viper]

i start Vt2 a little bit of a year ago or 2, after they fixed everything i guess

[still hearth]

Getting to level 30 the first time is actually fun

Then the end game

[safe crystal]

Chaos wastes is great though

[north cradle]

I think Fem Seer Psyker is played by Sienna's VA

[still hearth]

I've played only a bit

[leaden thunder]

iirc none of the same vas are in for player characters

they just sound similar

[north cradle]

Lohner and Olesya are the medicae stations, change my mind

[olive ember]

aye we did it

damnation approved

[safe crystal]

But was it hi5

[gilded viper]

soon u can see mine

[leaden thunder]

Olesya is 100% the new medica voice

I ment for our character voices

[olive ember]

don't have scoreboard mod so

can't tell how much I carried

but yeah

[north cradle]

Are you sure? Fem Seer Pysker and Brawler Ogryn are right there

[safe crystal]

Saltz is the chaos captain, sometimes

[leaden thunder]

I am fairly sure

[north cradle]

I don't think I've heard Kerillian yet

[olive ember]

wait I didnt check how long the mission took

um

its 3:52

[north cradle]

I miss her sultry, sarcastic, Scottish voice

[olive ember]

3:11 - 3:52

so

41 minutes

[still hearth]

Mayflies

[olive ember]

low five

41 minute low five game

[clear hamlet]

dawri

[leaden thunder]

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1477053/?ref_=tt_cl_t_15 female seer psyker

[olive ember]

I can tell you it didn't feel like a low five tho

[north cradle]

I guess you could say your Hi-5 was down low and too slow

[safe crystal]

I dont miss Kerillian at all. All i remember of her is the shink sound after a javelin goes through you to hit the slave rat you're fighting

[north cradle]

I was a Waystalker player with either Moonfire or Longbow. Dangerously OP I tell ya

[olive ember]

WOOOOOO

[north cradle]

Zamn

[clear hamlet]

bardin is the best ever and I never play dwarfs in games he is the only exception

[olive ember]

rip cloud but

it will do for now

[feral verge]

i love saltzpyre

[safe crystal]

[still hearth]

Enjoy the 10% crit

Imagine if they actually fix all Psyker blessings next

[feral verge]

"the crime is your foul existence. the punishment is death"

[safe crystal]

"DWARF HUNTING"

[leaden thunder]

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5671889/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t20 brawler

[olive ember]

ngl i have a headache after running this build

my brain is massive

hard carried those three vets

[feral verge]

could be wrong, but one of the assasination bosses has saltzpyre's va

[olive ember]

clearly

[feral verge]

there's one that osunds like him

[leaden thunder]

you are correct

[feral verge]

oh cool

i have good ears then

[leaden thunder]

he also voices grendyls servitor

or one of the voices for it

[north cradle]

If Sienna isn't the Fem Seer Psyker, she's definitely one of the hub NPCs standing guard

[digital narwhal]

Emperor gave me this.

At least I can

extract Warp Nexus I guess.

[leaden thunder]

the only thing sienna's va does in DT is another one of grendyl's servitors voices

[olive ember]

@safe crystal btw holy shit the mk 7 is so bad

you can't even panic swing

[safe crystal]

[olive ember]

since light 1 is a fucking overhead

so if you are getting swarmed and you try to panic swing you just get shit on cuz you only hit one guy

[north cradle]

Off-topic, but I'm disappointed more people don't pick Fem Seer. She's great at sounding borderline insane

[leaden thunder]

I think that voice is annoying as fuck

[north cradle]

More than Loner?

[leaden thunder]

male loner is funny as hell to me

the HMMMM??S

are great

[north cradle]

I call him Richtofen

[leaden thunder]

male loner also does the ogryn bully voice

which is wild

[north cradle]

I kinda wish the voice screen would include a random voice line preview, cuz otherwise I probably would have picked Brawler over Bodyguard

Loose Cannon Vet with Brawler Ogryn is perfect

[feral verge]

i use female loner

[north cradle]

Same goes for Judge Zealot and Seer Psyker. I think they got good lines together

[leaden thunder]

male loner and loose cannon are good together

[sterile vale]

Agitator Zealot and Loose Cannon Vet can have some nice banter too

[north cradle]

At launch, I played my Male Seer with a Female Seer, neither of us realised that the Beloved at the time was Emperor, so the two of us imagined that we were married or something

[sterile vale]

With the vet implying that the zealot blasts out swears like no tomorrow when he thinks nobody's listening

[north cradle]

Having telepathic conversations with each other that the other would announce to the others in the team

[gilded viper]

@safe crystal @olive ember https://youtu.be/prACsHvK-xw

[still hearth]

Beloved is actually a daemon

[north cradle]

Masquerading as Emperor?

[long osprey]

Would be a nice plot twist

[still hearth]

People claim it

Based on visions that their beloved shows them

[long osprey]

New assassination would be « Skyv » the possessed psyker

[leaden thunder]

that's basically just a daemon host

[olive ember]

look at that constant static and 360p quality

[long osprey]

Could be

[gilded viper]

is it super low quality?

didn't rewatch it after i compress it

[north cradle]

It takes a while to render in higher quality

I think

[olive ember]

its um

its something XD

[gilded viper]

youtube moment

holy shit

[olive ember]

its truly something XD

[brittle crest]

what curios do you like on psyker folks?

i personally do hp/hp/wound or hp/hp/stamina

[leaden thunder]

hp normally

[spice veldt]

i do toughness/hp/stamina

The toughness is there for slightly better poking at ranged
the hp is just there as an extra buffer against snipers and grims since I don't run corruption resist
I don't run kinetic deflection, so I need the stamina,

[olive ember]

I run hp/hp/wound

[still hearth]

3x HP

I am healthy

[gilded viper]

HP-HP-TH

[olive ember]

technically speaking hp/hp/hp or hp/hp/stamina would be better but I prefer having safety net

[proven raven]

All stam

If you ain't movin' yer dead

[spice veldt]

i used to run all three stam before they fixed the stam curios

[echo turtle]

Stam and wounds are pretty pointless

[gilded viper]

wound aren't

[hexed sage]

What's a good melee to pair with the trauma staff?

[gilded viper]

for mistakes when suing peril

[olive ember]

stam effects peril blocking so yeah

wound is just a safety net

so you aren't stuck at half hp when you go down

[gilded viper]

@olive ember also Hd should be on now for the video

[digital narwhal]

Should I reroll Carapace to Infested?

Or something else?

[weary idol]

Flak is the usual go to

[digital narwhal]

Ye I know, but I figured Flak might not be for Purgatus for some reason.

[still hearth]

You're very unlikely to get much use of Infested

[weary idol]

Purge staff does basically nothing to carapace so

[digital narwhal]

Oh I know

Hence why I'm rerolling it

lol

[still hearth]

Unyielding is the best imo

[weary idol]

Infested is situational for weapons that NEED better horde clear

Flak is always good

[still hearth]

Because they're the only armour type that doesn't die super fast

[weary idol]

Then it's maniac or unyielding depending on preferences

[still hearth]

But flak/maniac is also good since it deals with ragers and maulers

And flak is like

All shotgunners, all gunners

[digital narwhal]

Guess I'll go with Flak then

[still hearth]

A lot of dangerous mobs

[leaden thunder]

all the bruisers have flak on them somewhere

[weary idol]

Flak is literally everywhere

Basically every other enemy is flak

[still hearth]

Doesn't matter with Purge though

Since it only cares about core armor type

[leaden thunder]

crushers count as carapace for that right?

[still hearth]

I think its Scab Bruiser, Scab Rager, Shotgunners, Gunners, Bombers, Scab Shooters and Scab Stalkers that are Flak core

[weary idol]

Yeah

[digital narwhal]

Ye I know

Just haven't used Purgatus in a fucking while

So I forgot the go-to perks for it

[lyric atlas]

fellow psyhkers is anyonre having this happen to them?

[still hearth]

I never talk anyways

[lyric atlas]

its so frustrating to have to reassign it every game

[lunar hollow]

everythint but mauler head is flak too

[still hearth]

Oh yeah mauler is flak core

[lunar hollow]

some parts of reapers also have flak

the chest armor iirc

i think bulwark MIGHT

[still hearth]

For the discussion at hand its not important

[leaden thunder]

dots just care about the main health type

[lunar hollow]

true

[weary idol]

Bulwarks are unyielding and carapace

[lyric atlas]

Anyone?

[still hearth]

Are Reapers the only one with three armour types

[lunar hollow]

i think so

[lyric atlas]

sigh

[safe crystal]

Goddamn you actually had to DO stuff

[fierce sinew]

crit rate + flak on the staff and unyielding on your melee weapon, the only things that live long enough to matter you stack up and swap anyway

[still hearth]

I figure most melees want flak though

So it depends on what you're running

But that is the beauty of DoT

Getting to have up to 4 armour type damage boosts

[fierce sinew]

I run flak + unyielding on the axe yeah

[gilded viper]

yeah since we only had 2 good player and a zealot who was throwing the game

and me

[feral verge]

i asked about this before

i had flak dmg 3 on this staff

but i wanted flak damage 4

but rolled unyielding

wondering if i should keep unyielding

for bosses

[still hearth]

Voidstrike with Carapace, ouf.

[feral verge]

everything else on it is perfect though

[fierce sinew]

you don't really fight unyielding enemies with voidstrike though, do you?

[edgy hearth]

Really quickly. What blessings do you guys prefer on voidstrike? Almost feels like warp flurry isn't as good once you learn to cancel with R inbetween shots

[still hearth]

Voidstrike Unyielding damage isn't great iirc

[fierce sinew]

yeah

[still hearth]

You shouldn't cancel

Warp Flurry is way better

[feral verge]

what i have is BIS

[feral verge]

seems better than bb spam

[fierce sinew]

of course, but worse than most melee weapons

maybe all of them?

[feral verge]

oh i meant bosses

[edgy hearth]

Yeah mine is not far off. Admitttedly, I think the high dmg roll is better than high WR. Also my blessings are a tier below. Quite sad

[fierce sinew]

unless you specialized your melee weapon for horde, which would be weird to do with void

[feral verge]

i BB reapers and shit

[still hearth]

On a Reaper you do 536 damage with a WS hit

[feral verge]

im talking boss damage

[still hearth]

The first or second numbers are most relevant

If you can hit weakspots then you can outperform BB

But DH is hard to hit consistently as it is

[feral verge]

WR is nigh useless with warpflurry

i rarely have to quell

[safe crystal]

Meanwhile, im fucking lost because zealot and vet did everything @gilded viper @olive ember ignore the channel name,thats what my friends call me https://youtu.be/vxsdarhI_MM

[edgy hearth]

Yeah I'd agree

[still hearth]

Gonna need a

Side by side comparison

Of Warp Flurry T4

And using the R reset

[fierce sinew]

your melee weapon and/or uptime has to be pretty bad not to outrace this

[still hearth]

Even BB being reliable will often outpace this

[olive ember]

mmm yes

[feral verge]

hmm

[olive ember]

the best gun psyker

hentai

[feral verge]

yeah i'll go back to flak

and just bb bosses

[shy fiber]

I see people playing with headbob and I have to ask: WHY

[feral verge]

thanks

[shy fiber]

How do you not get sick from the UI elements moving around so much lol

[fierce sinew]

leaning into gunpsykers being shitposters 👌

[olive ember]

you should try

its truly an eye opening experience

[gilded viper]

use a real build

[sacred dome]

It makes game a little bit harder. Fun.

[gilded viper]

as a gun psyker main this shit was so bad to play

[still hearth]

Gunpsykers are less shitposters than Surge stans

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1081319003479355412/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1081306969366876251/image.png

[gilded viper]

that gun suck, u basically running with no feats, it dumb

but the content tho

[olive ember]

^^ you haven't played psyker until you tried this OP build ^^

[rich rose]

What are the preferred blessings on duelling sword?

[gilded viper]

i have rending and shred

thinking of getting the dodge crit chance one now tho

[digital narwhal]

I hope they make the Trauma Staff’s epicentre bigger next week

[mental rock]

I have rampage and shred

[leaden thunder]

they are all decent execpt like

precog

[still hearth]

Precog is poopoo tier

Precog is so bad

It makes

All or Nothing look good

[gilded viper]

yeah compare to riposte precog kinda doo doo

[still hearth]

Riposte now is actually okay

It's still crappy

[near wyvern]

Ok I tried to go through pretty much all the guns for Psyker

Revolver: meh
Laspistol: meh
Recon lasguns: meh
Infantry Autoguns: no
Headhunter Autoguns: works
Infantry Lasguns: definitely works
Shredder Autopistol: a bit meh but absolutely hilarious single target combos with Psyker's kit

[still hearth]

But at least it gives a nice chunk of crit sometimes.

[gilded viper]

i mean 8% of this

[still hearth]

XII is a workhorse compared to the other guns. But Autopistol with the right blessings is pretty sick atm.

I agree about the rest, though those guns are just bad in general imo

[gilded viper]

the only gun i use on psyker so fair (i don't like laspistol that much)

i need to try more gun on psyker but man most gun in general are kinda compare to lasgun mk12, i wish recon was better but hoensty i just wish it had a scope

[still hearth]

Recon needs to be a laser

No recoil or spread

Absolutely straight

And it should have run n gun built in

[gilded viper]

i mean, it basically have no recoil so it ok

[still hearth]

So you can at least have fun

[gilded viper]

OMG

saw that

[near wyvern]

Recon should penetrate targets

[still hearth]

Recon should do damage

[gilded viper]

honesty it crazy i use it so much and idk what the first thing the weapon really need outside of a better sight

feel like the muzzle blast make it hard to see the target

[leaden thunder]

wow

what a hot take

I can't believe you'd say that

[still hearth]

I bring the hottest takes

Sickest memes

[gilded viper]

cause my understanding of how it should be is a super accurate wepaon but u can't see the target the moment u start firing

[still hearth]

Give Revolver even more cleave

And like 100 more damage

[spice veldt]

? isn't the recon lasgun just for aggroing daemonhosts more quickly?

[still hearth]

Cowards

Recon lasgun is for making light

In the dark

[spice veldt]

ah my b

[still hearth]

Its light a strobe light

https://tenor.com/view/disco-cat-kitten-kitty-party-gif-17437007

Party in the sewers

[dense ivy]

I think voidstrike is the best staff

[still hearth]

Voidstrike is a solid number 2 in my eyes.

Too much effort compared to Purge

[spice veldt]

number 4 in my eyes

[dense ivy]

+Supression
+Infinite penetration on unarmored
+reduce peril on weakpoint hit = infinite peril in horde
+Supression

[still hearth]

Infinite = 8

[dense ivy]

If it was 8

[still hearth]

It is 8

I've tested it

[dense ivy]

Then how come I can regen 100 toughness

In one shot

[near wyvern]

Battle Meditation

[dense ivy]

It kills way more than 8 per shot

[still hearth]

Sounds like anecdotal feels

It hits 6 poxwalkers

And 8 unarmored goons

[dense ivy]

I've gotten back 120 toughness in one go with Warp Absorption

[still hearth]

Okay

But that doesn't change the fact

That when I tested it

It goes through 8 people

And then explodes

[near wyvern]

Should be easy to test in the creature spawner

[spice veldt]

even when they're stacked on top of each other, it'll deal epicentre damage to a fixed amount of enemies

[leaden thunder]

does the BP calc show pen?

[still hearth]

Then again this game is a Fatshark game

[spice veldt]

but voidstrike randomly overrides its cleave limit and annihilates a horde sometimes

[still hearth]

Yes

BP says 6 cleave on max charged secondary

[leaden thunder]

oh

is that what that number is

[still hearth]

Ye

I don't doubt that Void can glitch out

And you got that

[near wyvern]

The funny thing about void is that the blazing spirit is actually decent on it. When you direct hit an elite, it applies 3 stacks for the direct hit and 3 stacks for the explosion, which deal almost 1/2 HP of a mauler.

[still hearth]

But it says 6 cleave on it and in testing it hits 6 cleave.

[near wyvern]

Warp Nexus mandatory obviously

[still hearth]

1/2 HP of a mauler

After

12 seconds?

Or something like that

[near wyvern]

8

[still hearth]

I mean the ticks also last for a bit, right?

Not that the last few seconds matter

I guess

[dense ivy]

Soulblaze is still terrible

[near wyvern]

11 ticks, 0.75 tick per second for 8 seconds and then if drops one stack per 0.75 sec until no stacks of new stacks are applied

[gilded viper]

the talk about recon gun got me thinking i don't use vlla that much and i went and bought a white and won the lottery

[dense ivy]

When seconds count soulblaze is just minutes away

[safe crystal]

Do you mean in general, or just on the void strike?

[still hearth]

Purge applying 3 stacks per second is more than viable due to its huge area and stagger.

[spice veldt]

blazing spirit is meh but the voidstrike also tends to deal outer radius dmg to most enemies

[still hearth]

But on anything else its mid

[gilded viper]

WOW, idk why but it truly feel like the vld is the only recon gun that can crit alot

[still hearth]

AB for instant 6 stacks is fine though

[gilded viper]

or maybe haedhunter that broken

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze is not terrible, it's just that the talents that revolve around if (Wrack and Ruin, Kinetic Overload) and the Blazing Spirit blessing are just still way under tuned

[sterile vale]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[dense ivy]

In general it's really terrible unless you can stack it massively

And so both talents for it are trash

[still hearth]

That's basically all DoTs in this game tbh

[dense ivy]

I guess there's three actually

[near wyvern]

That's the thing, Blazing Spirit void is like a mini AB

[still hearth]

Then you shoot your Void

And it penetrates 5 targets

[dense ivy]

Why does Psyker have Ascendant Blaze

[still hearth]

Flies off into the distance

[dense ivy]

It's so bad

[still hearth]

And you cry

[spice veldt]

6 stacks can still kill poxwalkers; though it's unreliable even with 25% crit chance

[still hearth]

They have it so you can make Purge even stronger

[dense ivy]

If you take warp battery you can barely kill trash with it

[near wyvern]

That's why you have nexus and aim at the ground to guarantee it pops

[still hearth]

Just play suboptimally

[dense ivy]

Ascendant Blaze is like the vet's bleed grenades

[still hearth]

No it really isn't

Vet bleed grenades are always garbage

AB lets you shove over a horde and they die by the time they get up

[spice veldt]

ascendant blaze's main advantage is its range

[near wyvern]

It's not as good as Transfer Peril Warp Flurry but it's usable

[still hearth]

And things that don't die take like 300-400 damage

[leaden thunder]

also AB has another passive effect that is quite good

[dense ivy]

I feel like, they made the ults up too much

[safe crystal]

You're telling me killing a lot of stuff in front of you in a 30m cone while regaining space is bad in your opinion?

[dense ivy]

So they felt like they had to make them weak

[dense ivy]

It doesn't kill anything but poxwalkers

[still hearth]

Shooters

Bruisers

[safe crystal]

Shooters

[dense ivy]

Did it get buffed

[safe crystal]

No,6 stacks has always been enough

[dense ivy]

Last I tested it it wouldn't even kill shooters

[still hearth]

You do have to be on 6 stacks

It also helps to have a weapon with flak/unarmored

[spice veldt]

or you have power buffs active

such as from slaughterer, headtaker, thrust, etc.

[safe crystal]

Its a bit faster with the perks/blessings, but not required. Just need 6 stacks

[still hearth]

It does like half HP of shotgunners I believe

[weary idol]

No it's always killed them

AB is press F to remove horde

Which is pretty sweet to just have in your pocket

[dense ivy]

It only takes forever to kill them Jesus

[leaden thunder]

wow

[still hearth]

So?

They're on their ass

[leaden thunder]

it can hit infintie enemies

that so terrible

[near wyvern]

4 stacks doesn't remove horde but weakens a lot and clears groaners

[safe crystal]

Oh no, i took 10 seconds to kill 40+ shooters

[dense ivy]

It does kill them but that's so slow lmfao

[still hearth]

Okay

But

[dense ivy]

Does it have no range falloff

[still hearth]

How are you going to kill

Every enemy in 30m cone

Faster than AB

[dense ivy]

XII Counterfire lmao

[still hearth]

Uh

No

[spice veldt]

mf changed class midway

[still hearth]

Vet is OP sure

[dense ivy]

Oh I mean, that's how I'd do it faster

[still hearth]

But unless you're only killing shooters

Which

This situation was also about horde

Which XII sucks against btw

[leaden thunder]

AB can literally hit an infinite amount of enemies in that cone

[near wyvern]

Ok then, go to creature spawner, kill 40 shooters in 10 seconds

When they are spread out

[leaden thunder]

also doesn't simulate them being in cover etc

[near wyvern]

Send a video and we believe

[leaden thunder]

like 10 seconds to kill 1 thing is bad

10 seconds to kill

[dense ivy]

Idk the cone isn't that big

[leaden thunder]

everything '

[weary idol]

ngl VIIA lasgun could probably clear faster than AB

[leaden thunder]

[weary idol]

But even that would be hard

[leaden thunder]

against what

[leaden thunder]

like 4 pox walkers

[gilded viper]

what your gun have

need it for refence, trying to use something that isn't the vld

[weary idol]

VIIA lasgun pens through poxboys

And 2 normal dudes

[leaden thunder]

either way

having a button

[weary idol]

It's a solid horde muncher for what it is

[leaden thunder]

that can just kill a theoretical infinite amount of enemies

with relative saftey

even if it takes a bit

is good

[weary idol]

Yeah

[dense ivy]

Alright, I didn't realize it had so much range

[safe crystal]

Infinite amount of enemies, who can be in cover, and you can shoot that through a wall

[still hearth]

Tbf KB isn't super great either.

It's very nice, like AB

[safe crystal]

If you know they're there, let er rip

[dense ivy]

Why does it not tell you how much it extends the range of your ult

[weary idol]

Even not running 6 stacks I have AB equipped always

Even just 4 stacks is so much damage on trash

[spice veldt]

yeah, ascendant blaze inflicts soulblaze on anything that your ult normally hits, so it'll also go through walls and have the same range as your ult

[safe crystal]

It doesnt extend. The range is 30m

[still hearth]

Cones are just weird

[spice veldt]

the ult has always had that range

[leaden thunder]

does the normal ult have fall off at that range for the push back

[dense ivy]

It doesn't stagger things that far away

I guess looking at it, enemies react as if they just spotted you

[still hearth]

I think the thing is

That it seems you gradually lose stacks from the ult or something?

And it reduces the push force over time

I've at least noticed I seem to have a stack for a bit after I've thrown out the ult then it goes away

[dense ivy]

Yeah ok, I've only just noticed this frankly

I didn't realize the ult just goes that far

[leaden thunder]

tbh I only notice it with ab

[dense ivy]

The effect isn't noticeable unless enemies are standing still and unaggro'd

[leaden thunder]

I don't without it

[dense ivy]

Consuming 6 stacks sucks but there's barely a reason to run anything but Communion I guess

[leaden thunder]

it doesn't consume the stacks rn iirc

[spice veldt]

:( psyk's aura is good

[leaden thunder]

it's not like quickening which is mega ass

[dense ivy]

15% cdr would be better if vets didn't have perma ult up at all times

[safe crystal]

You're getting the stacks back with AB very quickly, since it can roll on everything that has soul blaze on them, regardless of what kills them

[spice veldt]

i top melee elites killed in my games all the time

[dense ivy]

I do that with voidstrike

It's very messy

[spice veldt]

just play melee and you'll rack up a bunch of melee elite kills

[dense ivy]

I need the game to give me a good force sword though jesus

[spice veldt]

and communion is meh unless you're running essence harvest

[dense ivy]

Communion gets you 6 stacks near instantly anytime a horde shows up

[spice veldt]

or you're not running kinetic flayer i suppose

i don't run inner tranq so 6 warp charges isn't much of a benefit to me and I'd rather have CDR on elite/special kill

[cyan portal]

Interested on opinions on which perk to reroll/what blessing to add?

[still hearth]

Ouf.

Definitely Warp Flurry to T4

[dense ivy]

All of them?

[spice veldt]

t4 warp nexus whew

[still hearth]

I'd reroll crit chance to flak probably.

Or Unyielding

3% would be okay to keep too since horde damage is pretty bad

[dense ivy]

I really wish Peril based mechanics did not exist

[still hearth]

It'd be fine

If they weren't based on playing at 97%

[dense ivy]

It just doesn't work like Unchained

[spice veldt]

it's fine but I hate the loud noises at 100%

[dense ivy]

Like up to 33% ranged DR at high peril

Fucking

You're a 100 toughness class

[cyan portal]

Yeah, I like crit to increase the chance of getting max burn stacks on one charge, 3% isn't optimal but not terrible. I've never run groaners/poxwalkers, but they tend to die fast anyway.

[spice veldt]

and if we had a long ranged DPS staff

[dense ivy]

If it was just flat 33% DR it would still be underwhelming

[spice veldt]

tbf our toughness regen feats are pretty good

[safe crystal]

I wouldnt reroll the blessings until next week to see if they fix some of the blessings. Nexus is the only one you need

[cyan portal]

That's a good thought actually, i should wait and see

[still hearth]

The feat is garbage

Veteran gets to have 4x toughness whenever they press F

With infinite uptime

[leaden thunder]

[still hearth]

And stacking toughness regen

Psykers: If you're at 100% peril

You get 33% toughness DR

[spice veldt]

it's funny that the range is literally from 0% to fucking 100%

[safe crystal]

A whole 33%?!

[still hearth]

That's like 1.5x toughness? idk values

[spice veldt]

+49% effective toughness

[still hearth]

1.66x I think

Ah

So you go from 100

To 150

Pog

[spice veldt]

and at 10% toughness dmg reduc, it's +11% effective toughness

so scaling from +11% to +49%

[olive ember]

basically

instead of getting your toughness stripped in 3 shots

its 5 shots

[spice veldt]

still better than nothing and is still good for poking at ranged

you're eating shots with your HP anyways with the ranged dmg reduction mechanic anyways if you're getting lit up that much for it to matter

[dense ivy]

You still get stripped in 2 salvos up close

It's very frustrating

[hollow steeple]

What are the best perks for purgatus? +5% crit and unarmored?

[dense ivy]

Even Vet with 200 base toughness you still get stripped instantly if people look at you

Especially shotgunners

[safe crystal]

Crit and flak/unyielding

[dense ivy]

They can even blow through the 75% toughness feat in like 2-3 hits, ranged enemies are a menace

[wet jacinth]

When sprinting makes toughness take 2x dmg..

[still hearth]

Oh no

[dense ivy]

Scientists are baffled

[still hearth]

Imagine

Having the same toughness

As other mortals

While sprinting

[hollow steeple]

oh yeah, good point
unyielding includes monsters, right?

[still hearth]

What punishment

[dense ivy]

Psyker takes 25% more toughness damage while sprinting also

[safe crystal]

Monsters,reapers and bulwarks

[dense ivy]

TBF, the way ranged enemies are designed Vet almost needs to be OP

[still hearth]

If only

[dense ivy]

But I'd rather enemies just not be aimbot headshotting gods

[still hearth]

The game was designed

[dense ivy]

Rather than just make a class OP as fuck to deal with that

[still hearth]

Around ranged enemies being OP

[dense ivy]

Imagine if cover worked

[spice veldt]

hmm well the problem is amplified by our total lack of ranged single-target DPS weapons

[hollow steeple]

cool, crit and unyielding is what I will aim for
thanks!

[wet jacinth]

Issue is. Once you know about it. You just don't sprint and walk/slide everywhere

[dense ivy]

duck behind cover

[still hearth]

coughXIIcough

[olive ember]

I've ended up using thunder hammer auto pistol on my zealot

somehow this is how I have fun on zealot

[dense ivy]

take the same damage as if you stood completely still in the opne

[still hearth]

I sprint anyways

[olive ember]

cuz I hate every other weapon XD

[still hearth]

Because I run the chad Veteran build

[dense ivy]

Game design is my passion

[wet jacinth]

When you remember your vet is max height

[spice veldt]

imagine being tall

[dense ivy]

My Vet is normal height

Still can't use cover

My Psyker who's min height can

[spice veldt]

imagine not being a manlet

[dense ivy]

Game design is my passion

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[dense ivy]

make game where enemies are hyper lethal ranged threats

include waist high cover

[still hearth]

Height actually affecting gameplay

I love this feature

Especially when I can't change

Without levelling an lat

[dense ivy]

code it so that enemies only target the head making cover useless unless your slider is 62%-100% short

[weary idol]

Ranged enemies would be substantially less annoying if sprint/slide actually avoided bullets

[still hearth]

Slide does

[dense ivy]

Sprinting works, but you can't sprint towards them

[still hearth]

Sprint

[dense ivy]

Slide works when the game wants it to

[still hearth]

Yeah sprint works kind of

[dense ivy]

Which in my experience is not often

[still hearth]

Slide always works but enemies don't

[dense ivy]

slide

[still hearth]

They'll line up the shot at you

[weary idol]

And they couldn't just walk backwards 2 steps and choose to shoot you in melee anyways

[still hearth]

The moment you stand up

[spice veldt]

i only get hit in-between my slides

[still hearth]

BANG

[dense ivy]

sniper recalibrates mid shot to your new position

I don't even bother sliding honestly

It just gets you killed because enemies don't actually break tracking on slides like they do if you dodge

[spice veldt]

hmm, i think you're doing yourself a bit of a disservice

well, don't slide against melee enemies

or hold block or push them while sliding

[dense ivy]

It doesn't even break ranged enemy tracking

[still hearth]

It does

But the thing is

It doesn't completely break it

[dense ivy]

When I slide almost every time at least 1 shot from a barrage will hit me

[wet jacinth]

[still hearth]

Unless you slide for long enough

[dense ivy]

And then that kills my momentum because ranged hitstun

[still hearth]

Yeah you can't use shitty Fsword slides

At least not forwards

[spice veldt]

more reliable than dodge-spamming

[dense ivy]

Then I'm neither sprinting nor sliding and get a full salvo to the face

[weary idol]

Yeah that's annoying too

[still hearth]

Ranged hitstun needs to die

Its the worst thing

[dense ivy]

If you sprint parallel to enemies they will miss you

[spice veldt]

toughness stagger needs to die

[dense ivy]

If you sprint at an angle they will miss you sometimes

[weary idol]

Get shot once and stun locked for the next 5 shots

[dense ivy]

If you sprint towards or away from them they will hit you 100% of the time

Game design is my passion

I'm going to make baked potatoes

[weary idol]

Reaper shoots you once and now you're on another map from the knock back

[wet jacinth]

You know.

If you just killed them. They can't shoot you

🤯

[still hearth]

I love that

Dogs being impossible to dodge

Is literally just a server issue

[weary idol]

I'm a psyker the best I can do is blow up their pancakes with my mind

[still hearth]

Because Creature Spawner makes it obvious how easy it is to dodge them

When the server doesn't rubberband you

[wet jacinth]

Skill issue*

[spice veldt]

it was surprising to learn that you don't even need to dodge or sprint to avoid them

too bad ping and their behavior to 360 noscope you makes it unreliable

also did the mission board refresh to the same maps it had half an hour ago wtf; at least for damnation

fuckin refinery hab dreyko ammo raid

[still hearth]

Get fkd

[feral verge]

what's the hardest map(s)

just curious

what ppl think

i have no opinion

[spice veldt]

ammo raid is one of my picks

because you need to move around a lot and fight through a horde to get the barrels to the ship for the finale

chasm terminus's assassination can be a clusterfuck if ranged enemies spawn and you don't immediately neuter them

[safe crystal]

The only thing i sorta find difficult is the water cleaning level beginning, going down that goddamn tower with 40+ gunners lighting you up

[spice veldt]

surprisingly, i haven't wiped there in a long time

[feral verge]

that's the only one i can think of too

[spice veldt]

at least on NA west, a lot of players seem more cautious about it nowadays

i hate the stairways though

real fun when flamers or mutants backspawn

vigil station oblivium's investigation midevent can be spotty, but it's manageable if your team kills the ranged spawns first before investigating

[weary idol]

I kinda like comms plex larinax

The one that spawns 5 gunners at a time during the elevator wait

[spice veldt]

i hate that map for the shotgunner + horde spawns

and how they can decimate you through other enemies

i find the finale to be more problematic than the midevent

[weary idol]

Yeah the finale on that mission is a fat shark study in how long a reject can survive without cover

[spice veldt]

ahhh

speaking of no cover

the relay station finale

the one where you kill daemoneyes and ascend up level by level

until you reach the very top where ranged enemies can spawn from anywhere

and the circular map area has pretty much no cover

the best strat is probably to run back downstairs to bait the initial wave of shotgunners and gank their asses

[fierce sinew]

I meme about single digit tick rate but I think it might actually be

[left basin]

377 voidstrike

thanks god

[toxic timber]

I've never seen this blessing, how does it work?

[digital narwhal]

iirc, if it's a Crit, it counts as them being hit twice

Could be wrong

[cold geode]

left click will occasionally shoot 2 bolts

i think its like 1 in 20 shots

[leaden thunder]

that's about righ

you got a 5% base chance

[spice veldt]

apparently, you can apply the brain burst stagger almost immediately if you left-click while right-clicking no matter the charge level
https://streamable.com/evn930

also works against dogs particularly well
https://streamable.com/dzg1q3

[olive ember]

guess they never fixed that

BB used to stagger like that the moment you channel with left click

they changed it from CBT to launch

[twilit flicker]

makes precharging your BBs even better

[void mural]

What do people think of the sprint efficiency stat?

[fierce sinew]

better than most things you can roll on curios/10

[void mural]

so, not as good as sniper, gunner, or bomber DR, but better than the useless ones? How about the low stat 5% hp/toughness?

[fierce sinew]

bomber DR is useless

[void mural]

oh, is it another bugged thing?

[fierce sinew]

I think it might reduce the damage their melee attacks do?

[feral verge]

i think the low stat hp and tohughness are worth it, only if you're stacking them

[void mural]

yeah, doesn't actually apply the the thing that'd be useful: their fire

[feral verge]

thanks to all hp blessings/perk,s i have 260 hp

[fierce sinew]

the fire stripping toughness is a mechanically separate thing from damage entirely

[feral verge]

feels good

[void mural]

I know that, but the damage they deal

[foggy tangle]

is blast radius a big deal on void staff? its at 53% but the other stats are good

[still hearth]

No

Its almost useless

The explosive blast only does like 30 damage and staggers

[foggy tangle]

right on, this one has the better warp flurry so im gonna switch to it

[shy fiber]

Mutants too?

[wintry bone]

that feeling when you just leveled your psyker to 30, don't have melk coins and this is the first lvl30 melk shop

[shy fiber]

Deflector 4 my beloved 😳

[dusky bear]

[feral verge]

he's on a mission

and he will not be stopped

[rare furnace]

TWO SHOT

Is that pog af?

[blazing oak]

Is that what darktide looks like with more than 20 fps?

[cold geode]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1

[dusky bear]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAE0OP2PgDk

[hollow current]

Thanks Milk. Thinking of pulling off the melee weak spot for 25% flak to make one shotting the dreg melee goons possible. I got up to 447/450 with 6 warp stacks and uncanny strike in full swing.

[dusky bear]

noice

[blazing oak]

That work for steamdeck?

[cold geode]

should, i havent tried it personally

getting the EXE modded to accept mods would be the hardest thing

using a copy of windows to do it would be "easiest" but you could try bottles

[blazing oak]

So download a bunch of crap to make a single mod work for a single game

[cold geode]

its two items, one is the frame work, the other is the mod loder

loader*

[blazing oak]

Is the copy of windows not something you download or use some emulator

[cold geode]

you don't need windows, you could get it to work in linux, or just get a modded copy of the exe from someone, i could send it to you if you want

[blazing oak]

So id replace my exe file with the modded exe

[cold geode]

yea, then install the mod framework, and the mod

[blazing oak]

So is the Linux exe just different to the windows exe and so it needs to be changed to accept mods?

[cold geode]

correct

steamdeck runs windows exes on linux using proton through steam

[blazing oak]

So what’s different from the windows exes on a windows computer?

In terms of the exe accepting mods

[cold geode]

nothing

[blazing oak]

So it’s the base darktide exe that needs to be modded for everyone no matter what system you use?

[cold geode]

correct

[blazing oak]

Ok alright I thought that Linux had some specific thing

[cold geode]

nope, steamdeck uses proton (built into steam) to translate windows exes to linux native commands so that linux can 'just work' running windows games

unless there is a linux native version of the game you want to play, then it uses that

to mod darktide you have to mod that EXE, which then loads the mod framework, the mod framework loads the mods you install in the game

[blazing oak]

Alright. Do I need to download nexus mods for the mods to work like on pc

[cold geode]

Linux has another translation layer ca;lled WINE that can be use to run general windows programs (IE not games) which you /could/ use to run the exe that mods the darktide executable, but that could be more difficult

Nope, you install it manually, unzipping things into the correct darktide folder.

[blazing oak]

Ok thanks

[feral verge]

lmao

i finally got the penance btw

[fair kayak]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[cold geode]

If you don't know how to use wine, you could setup a dual boot with windows on a SD card and then use windows to run the mod loader (to modify the darktide exe) then flip back to steam os and install the mods. But that can be more time consuming.

[dusky bear]

did you get it from hound pack?

[cold geode]

Send me a DM if you want me to upload the modded exe somewhere.

[feral verge]

nah

[cold geode]

I'm tempted to install the mod my self on my deck now 😄

[feral verge]

i helped ppl with malleus monstronum on here, then they helped me get out with a bang after

we had to shove a bunch of shotgunners into a small room

in the refinery mission i think

took like 40 mins

[dusky bear]

niiice

glad you finally got it, that pennance is brutal

[feral verge]

Yeah

Been waiting for months to get it

• monstronum

Thanks again homie

[dusky bear]

[blazing oak]

If you do that tell me if it works. Thanks for the help

[runic gate]

Hey what’s going on with T3 vs T4 brutal momentum on combat axe?

[blazing oak]

What do you mean?

[cursive marten]

Is this worth buying?

[runic gate]

Seems like some people were preferring T3 over 4. Wasn’t sure if I missed something

[feral verge]

i would

replace exorcist with defflector or something

[cursive marten]

ok thanks

[cold geode]

yep

[forest coral]

Very much so yes

[digital narwhal]

Dude, fuck Shotgunners.
Worst designed enemy in this game.

[forest coral]

The bad mobility can be dealt with by the inf side dodges fs has to an extent

[blazing oak]

How do?

[digital narwhal]

Considering enemies like to pre-fire you, you can turn a corner and have half your health deleted with the snap of a finger.

No chance to fight back.

No defending against it.

[blazing oak]

Seems like a pre fire problem?

[digital narwhal]

Doesn't mean that an enemy that can instantly chunk someone's health without warning is good design.

Snipers have a loud sound cue and the laser.

Shotgunners? None of that.

[blazing oak]

Well then the shotgunners should need direct line of sight then

Give you time to unturn the corner

[rare furnace]

Have you seen like 4 gunners insta attack without doing animation and then Insta focous on the next person combined