psyker-class

[olive ember]

4 stacks didn’t do enough last time I checked

[inland sand]

4 stacks in what context? shooting things with your staff?

or using AB?

[olive ember]

Leaves em with a sliver so it may just be you or someone else dealing the extra like 50 damage

AB

[spice veldt]

4 warp charge stacks

[safe crystal]

4 stacks is defo not enough, especially for shooters. 6 kills them barely in 10 seconds

[near wyvern]

If you guys haven't tested, the improved shredder autopistol is pretty goofy. Take Kinetic Flayer and Cerebral Lacerations, specials are in for a surprise.

[olive ember]

Ik both zealots and vets are gushing over it in their chats

[inland sand]

I legit just do not use AB enough to justify it I think. Staff kills everything on its own just fine and when it can't it's usually cause I need to melee or BB

[near wyvern]

Fastest BB cast the west has ever seen

[olive ember]

But like idk every auto pistol user I’ve seen in damnation were kinda trash

[inland sand]

does Warp Charge extra damage interact with Soul Blaze in any way?

[olive ember]

Yes

[inland sand]

so more charges = more damage on ur ticks?

[olive ember]

Should be

Admittedly this was done a while back

[inland sand]

k well then yea Warp Battery is the way then

Flayer is a bit too rng on Purgatus i feel

[olive ember]

For AB I mostly use it against a bunch of shooters since 6 stack burn is enough to kill em

You gotta have a feel for the range of your push tho

It covers 30 m or 40 m Idr, purge staff covers 16m

So for shooter packs more than 16 m I press F and forget

Anything further than 40 m is the vets job, and if I have to then BB

That’s how I play atleast

[near wyvern]

Yes

[inland sand]

fair. I lean a bit more on BB so usually it just feels like I want the BB ultimate and to keep the stacks

[olive ember]

Oh yeah I lean on BB a lot since I’m a surge staff main

[inland sand]

oh Pygex, you are the one who knows

how much time

do I have between flurry charges

on the trauma

[near wyvern]

@inland sand this is by testing with game, not datamined

[spice veldt]

you have until you let go of RMB or your character enters another animation

e.g., entering the suicide animation will drop your warp flurry

[summer prairie]

flurry is still a bit awkward, you can't do full charges initially or it doesn't trigger flurry

there's a chain timer

[near wyvern]

Haven't tested

[inland sand]

ah okay so a full charge trauma won't let you have flurry?

[spice veldt]

well that's sad

[summer prairie]

with t3/t4 you can probably do full charges safely once it's stacked up

but you'll need the ult for venting at that point

[olive ember]

Do we have a consensus on BiS perks for trauma?

[inland sand]

i wish there was some sort of timer that displayed for it

[olive ember]

Like how purge and surge is nexus + terrifying barrage

[olive ember]

Ask a modder to code that in kek

[inland sand]

Trauma blessings are weird. Pretty sure Rending Shockwave is good for it, but I have no idea what else

I was hoping Flurry would be good but if it doesn't let you charge to mid/full it's not

[spice veldt]

i think raindish is working on something like that already

[summer prairie]

you can charge to mid

[safe crystal]

Flurry + rending would be my opinion, but i dont use trauma too often anymore

[spice veldt]

and I think warp flurry does work with full charges now

[summer prairie]

it works with full charges once your charge time is fast enough

which it is not initially

[inland sand]

so you spam off a few small opnes then do a biggie?

is that the gist?

[summer prairie]

I haven't exhaustively tested timings, but mid-charge is likely fine

[inland sand]

ah Psyker chat. You so nice and reasonable

don't ever change

[spice veldt]

and initially as well it seems; if I let the bar go to full and I wait a little bit before casting, and I repeat this three times, then my last cast will charge until 94% to reach full

without flurry, it takes 22% peril and goes to 27% when I cast

so 27% + 27% + 27% + 22% equals 103%

[inland sand]

i have no idea on breakpoints on Trauma since the damage on it seems so variable

[summer prairie]

the only thing you need to know is that without warp charges you need +infested

[inland sand]

but I was having a great time with both the high peril damage level 10 talent and 6 stacks of WC

[spice veldt]

trauma can't one-shot infested without warp charges

but they get killed by the outer radius damage anyways

i like unarmoured and flak to kill shotgunners, gunners, and shooters/stalkers/dreg/scab enemies more reliably

[inland sand]

i mean when do you ever not have WC 😛

especially these days

[spice veldt]

i often only have 1 warp charge

even with kinetic flayer

[summer prairie]

you might need 3 WC depending on your dmg roll

[spice veldt]

I also take Warp Unleashed (2-1 feat) to get some extra damage

[inland sand]

same

[spice veldt]

not that it's particularly much damage

[inland sand]

good talent on Trauma I think

[spice veldt]

but you know, morale support damage

[inland sand]

at least, it feels that way

[summer prairie]

don't you want 2-2 if you want to take advantage of flurry

[inland sand]

so much of Psyker feels like i have to 'feel' stuff out which throws me cause I'm a numbers guy

[spice veldt]

no; mostly because I'm a quietude believer

[inland sand]

you would have to tell me as I have no idea how flurry works

[spice veldt]

i'm somebody who liked the pre-patch trauma staff, for reference

[summer prairie]

if you quell, you lose flurry except via ult

[near wyvern]

It is good. The charge % doesn't matter, you get a stack when you finish a cast and loose them if you don't start a new cast. In addition, the charge cost is always a constant peril per second so flurry decreases your charge peril cost as well.

[inland sand]

so, based on that Pygex

[summer prairie]

go ahead and try doing only full charges

[feral verge]

thank god for the reroll mod

[summer prairie]

and see if you get full stacks of flurry

when I did testing I recorded a video and counted actual cast times

[inland sand]

I should be able to fully charge a trauma staff, then immediately do it again and it should eb faster?

[feral verge]

even with that it took 5 minutes to get 4 curios with toughness regen 30%

[near wyvern]

@inland sand

[summer prairie]

surge+purg should be fixed next week

[inland sand]

very interesting

[feral verge]

watch it break void and trauma lmao

[inland sand]

well, definitely keeping Warp Battery in that build then

I will try IT

Trauma is such an odd beast when it comes to building the staff

I have 0 clue lol

[olive ember]

I don’t use purge enough but how often are you charging back to back

Would warp flurry be worth over terrifying barrage

[inland sand]

as of that above message from Pygex it doesn't work

[olive ember]

Oh yeah Ik

[summer prairie]

full charge is better dps since you spend less time on animations

[olive ember]

I meant if/when it gets fixed

[summer prairie]

when flurry works you can do shorter charges initially and then get the benefit

[olive ember]

🤔

A bit jank but fair

[feral verge]

I have 258hp now

Went up a whole point

[olive ember]

Got that 21% hp curios

[feral verge]

+HP perk

Too

[summer prairie]

20% with +5 hp perk feels good but 21% with 4% hp perk is trash

who agrees

[inland sand]

built this up from a grey from Brunt today

what should the second Perk be?

[digital narwhal]

Keep Flak

Flak is kinda the most important Perk in the game

[inland sand]

lol yeah it does feel

[feral verge]

is rending shockwave BIS for trauma?

[leaden thunder]

it's good support

[inland sand]

i really like it

helps your team deal with armoured elites

[leaden thunder]

it doesn't actually increase the truama's damage itself

[feral verge]

cuz i have a trauma staff i've yet to consecrate

[spice veldt]

it's better than most of the other blessings

in that it actually does something

[inland sand]

hahahaha

[spice veldt]

so it wins by elimination

[inland sand]

they need to redo Psyker blessings

[digital narwhal]

Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave, ye

Turns Crushers into a fuckin' joke

[spice veldt]

focused channeling if you're greedy and you get your cast broken all the time

like i do

[feral verge]

i got this from somewhere

[inland sand]

also there are fucking 11 blessings for the FOrce Sword... what the hell are they all?

[leaden thunder]

terrible

for the most part

[spice veldt]

most of them are poo poo

and then for some weird reason two of them are god tier

[leaden thunder]

sluaghterer moment

[inland sand]

deflector and? Slaughterer?

[spice veldt]

Bloodthirsty and Slaughterer

[inland sand]

which one is Bloodthirsty?

[leaden thunder]

100% crit for 5 seconds

after special kill

[feral verge]

buff unstable power pls

[olive ember]

In order of best to worst for force sword blessings: slaughterer > deflector = bloodthirsty > everything in between > precognition

[spice veldt]

and that 100% crit applies to ALL attacks during that 5 seconds

[inland sand]

oh I see

so you use it with Purg

for double stacks

gotcha

[olive ember]

I forget does bloodthirsty proc on elites

[leaden thunder]

doesn't apply cross weapon iirc

[spice veldt]

cross-weapon interactions with blessings no longer work

[inland sand]

Bleh nvm then

[spice veldt]

after being patched out

[inland sand]

that woiuld have been cool

[olive ember]

Just makes damage rly good on FS

[spice veldt]

except for a few intentional interactions like the revolver and one of the ogryn weapons

[olive ember]

Slaughterer applies to burn stacks iirc

Since you can apply dot and then swap to FS

[leaden thunder]

outside of that yeah

[spice veldt]

yeah, power buffs apply to any damage source while it's up seemingly

[leaden thunder]

but that's not quite cross weapon

[spice veldt]

Uncanny Strike also applies to soulblaze while your melee is equipped

[inland sand]

man I hope one day soon we get that two handed force sword that was datamined before launch

I want my FS Zweihander

[olive ember]

We’ve been waiting for months

[spice veldt]

you had to remind me didn't you

[olive ember]

If we cope hard enough we’ll get it next update

[cyan notch]

works on any kill

[olive ember]

Cope harder guys

[inland sand]

big sadge my siblings

[olive ember]

I’m sorry wat?

[feral verge]

Does beast of nurgle count as unyielding

[leaden thunder]

yeah

[olive ember]

Like activates on any kill?

[inland sand]

yep

[near wyvern]

Any kill made by the special attack

[inland sand]

to the BoN question

[spice veldt]

beast of nurgle, plogryn, and daemonhosts are unyielding

[olive ember]

Oh

Hmm

[full bane]

Hey what are y’all’s opinions on gun Psyker?

[olive ember]

🤔 reconsidering my opinion of blood thirsty

[cyan notch]

yes im assuming he knows that

[olive ember]

It’s… a play style….

[inland sand]

kik'

[spice veldt]

however, the special attack must be the one to kill the enemy; if Kinetic Flayer kills the enemy with the BB proc, then it won't proc

[leaden thunder]

guns are good

so it works

but it's like

[near wyvern]

Viable not optimal, but we play video games to entertain ourselves.

[full bane]

Shredder pistol is the most common pick from what I’ve seen with gun psykers

[olive ember]

Well auto pistol got super buffed

[full bane]

Shredder pistol is kinda borked atm

[olive ember]

The zealots and vets have been constantly gushing about it in their chats so yeah

[near wyvern]

Shredder + Cerebral Lacerations + Kinetic Flayer is pure comedy at times.

[digital narwhal]

A skilled Gun Psyker can make up for not having a Staff.
Just not the most optimal play most of the time.

[leaden thunder]

again

guns are good

so it works

but eh

[digital narwhal]

True

[olive ember]

I’ve played with a revolver + devil claw psyker in damnation

[leaden thunder]

idk why play it over a staff when Ican play vet

[olive ember]

He made it work

[leaden thunder]

or ranged zealot

[cyan notch]

psyker doesnt have a lot of good guns

[feral verge]

i have tier 3 flak damage on here, tried using the reroll mod for tier 4 flak, but got unyielding. should i keep it? it'd be nice to do more daamge to bosses

i had*

[full bane]

I might swap from the purge to the trauma since it’s actually usable now

[safe crystal]

Whats the damage on unyielding on void? Might want to check that

[near wyvern]

Many of them are viable actually. But I still stand with MGIV infantry lasgun is the best. Pew pew. Supress and kill everything, except bulwarks and crushers, but those you can BB.

[digital narwhal]

Trauma is very fun

[olive ember]

Mg IV

Literal disgust

Might as well use the Mg la

[full bane]

Good because conflag was my favorite staff in V2

[digital narwhal]

Trauma Staff helped me save a Zealot who over extended earlier.
Just spammed shockwaves around him since a bomber cut him off from us, and so I kept him safe with it till the flamed died down.

[cyan notch]

sure but no brauto no bolter we get garbage recon lasgun and uhhh kantrael busted on all classes

[near wyvern]

With trauma you want to have +unarmoured and +infested for perks. Guarantees one hit kills on non-elites and non-specials. Makes a huge difference. You want Inner Tranquility instead of Warp Unleashed so you can utilize warp flurry to its full glory.

[digital narwhal]

I mean, at least we have Infantry Autoguns...?

[olive ember]

You take that back recon las was meta for 2 weeks before they nerfed it into the ground

[cyan notch]

revolver shit headhunters shit

[olive ember]

My recon las vet ;-; never touched him again

[full bane]

Spark’Eds are to wimpy to hold a Bolter

[full bane]

Take it back

[digital narwhal]

Reckon Veterans are gonna get a Bolt Pistol eventually?

[cyan notch]

when they inevitably buff them again sure

[full bane]

Revolver is so much fun

[full bane]

I’d be down for a bolt pistol

[near wyvern]

There you go

[sullen bobcat]

Trauma is really good. It pretty much main it now

[shy fiber]

I love trauma

Wtf was that autocorrect

[sullen bobcat]

It's a.fun game of trying to figure out where the most concentrated path is

[shy fiber]

[olive ember]

We’re part of the inquisition when we get yes yes? https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Psycannon

[gilded viper]

No recon vld fan here

[olive ember]

I used to use recon vld on my vet

[near wyvern]

It makes some funny sounds but then it starts to make this weird click click noise when I squeeze the trigger

[olive ember]

Then they nerfed recon las so I stopped playing vet

[tender onyx]

does one need to be psychic to operate a psycannon or is psy charged ahead of time?

[olive ember]

No clue I’m not a 40k fan kek

[gilded viper]

Do u mean when they nerf the fire stacking thing

[digital narwhal]

We really need a couple Psyker exclusive ranged weapons that aren't Staves.

[olive ember]

Apparently it’s used by psyker space marines

[digital narwhal]

Librarians, ya mean?

[olive ember]

Which are like more prestigious than normal space marines

[near wyvern]

We could start by having some feats that improve gun play

[full bane]

I want a force greatsword, that’d be pog as fuck

[digital narwhal]

True

[olive ember]

Nah like an entire order of space marines who are all psykers

So like the literal best of the best

[digital narwhal]

Well there are two more Mks of Force Sword in the files.

So it's possible.

[full bane]

Thousand Sons

[olive ember]

But hey why can’t my prisoner ass psyker use it

I want to use a force heavy bolter

[gilded viper]

Inb4 the small buff is just a new weapon KEKW

[safe crystal]

Heroic recon vet saves a group of psychos and a lunatic from a bomber, colorized

[full bane]

I’ve seen the vet and Shouty chats mald over Spark’Ed and Ogryn getting buffed next week

[gilded viper]

I kinda mald a bit but only cause I think psyker isn't weak

But hey it my main class so I'll take it

[spice veldt]

psyker has no ranged DPS so we're weak in that department

[olive ember]

Zealots could use some buffs but the vets?

Bruh

[inland sand]

Zealot legit feels like the strongest class in the game to me

[gilded viper]

No lie if they increase vet stamina I'll actually made it

Main*

[olive ember]

Meh anything a zealot can do another class can do better

[leaden thunder]

to me personally

[near wyvern]

Ok I challenge you. Self healing.

[olive ember]

Melee? Take a bull cleaver ogryn. flame? Take a purge staff psyker. Guns? Do I even have to say

[leaden thunder]

vet is strongest followed by ogryn

then zealot

[inland sand]

that's not true. they have the best melee damage, the best ultimate and the mest mobility

[leaden thunder]

then psyker

[gilded viper]

Psyker > zealot > vet > level 7 ogryn.... but I think this is coming from someone who can't carry pug on vet as easily as I can on psyker and zealot

[full bane]

I hope the bug with can opener on rippers stays

[olive ember]

Waste of Medicae

[inland sand]

Veteran lies. it feels like the strongest class until you're the one in charge of saving the day

the stamina regen delay on Vet loses it the top spot

[olive ember]

Their ultimate is… imo eh

Toughness is nice but when it gets stripped in 3 shots

[lost heath]

hello

[olive ember]

Lack or ranged if you bring flamer, meh horde clear if you don’t

[inland sand]

Zealot and Psyker both clutch easier than the Vet do and handle mass mixed enemies better

[safe crystal]

Vet does have trouble reviving if they're clutching solo in a finale IF they dont have grenades

Then again, i run brauto and just run around and kill things so what do i know

[spice veldt]

vet felt fine to me even in solo melee, though that was with the pre-nerf power sword

[inland sand]

even with grenades, enemy density will kill them in tight rez situations

[digital narwhal]

Wait until you hear that this is a co-op game and Veteran performs the best and has the strongest kit as long has the team has at leats half a brain.

lul

[gilded viper]

Keep forgetting that ps did got nerf once

[leaden thunder]

the thing with zealot

[spice veldt]

from infinite cleave to a finite number

[inland sand]

Veteran sure does make the game the easier when u have one on your team, no qualms there

[spice veldt]

and lowered cleave damage

[leaden thunder]

is they have the strongest weapon in the game

[inland sand]

but again it's a plain sailing class

[olive ember]

I’m ngl I only swung twice on my power sword before charging so the nerf meant literally nothing to me

[leaden thunder]

but are not the strongest class

[inland sand]

strongest melee weapon in the game is the Antax V with bromentum

[leaden thunder]

I am talking about the flamer

[spice veldt]

did they receive a another nerf? I'm talking about the 1st nerf where the cleave was lowered from infinity to a finite number.

you literally made every enemy in your melee range disappear with the pre-nerf power sword

[inland sand]

ofc big imo, everyone has different opinions on how to play this game

[gilded viper]

Still cleave the horde like butter after the nerf

[olive ember]

Oh lmao you counted that as a nerf?

[spice veldt]

nerf is a nerf

[olive ember]

1st “nerf” changed cleave from infinite to “just” 40

2nd nerf is that you can only swing twice before needing to charge

Which is what I did before anyways

[gilded viper]

True, everyone should just play psyker with recon vld and go brrrr

[spice veldt]

i think it was always swinging twice wasn't it

[olive ember]

Apparently you could swing more which they fixed

[spice veldt]

i recall only doing two charged heavies last time

[olive ember]

Which is a nerf

[spice veldt]

i guess they patched the block cancel out

[olive ember]

But tbh Idek

[leaden thunder]

I think low hp zealot needs some major changes and the two handed zealot wepaons need a touch up

[gilded viper]

Talking about the block cancel thingy

[olive ember]

Haven’t touched vet much since they nerfed my recon Vld

Save for a little bit to try out the mk 12 last patch and the mk 2 Lucius this patch

Also to try and get fucking on overwatch

[gilded viper]

What was the nerf to it btw?

[olive ember]

Still haven’t gotten that aids achievement

[inland sand]

probably the infernus nerf

from way back

[safe crystal]

Weekly reminder that i did not buy this from Sour Milk, now that we're talking about PS

[olive ember]

;-; my burn stacks

[leaden thunder]

just get a cooperative team

and game end yourself at the start of the map

[gilded viper]

Oh, never get to experience that, but burn till feel good on non bosses I guess

[leaden thunder]

and have them not pick you up

[olive ember]

Why didn’t you lmao

[safe crystal]

I just want to watch the world burn i guess :>

[olive ember]

It didn’t have a cap before so it could melt

Then they decided to cap it at 9 for reference a purge staff burn caps at 31

[gilded viper]

What bleed cap?

[leaden thunder]

terrible

[olive ember]

Tbf 31 stacks is 500 dmg a tick right

[olive ember]

Post your reminder in vet chat

[gilded viper]

Really is blue flame stay winning

[cyan notch]

well its pretty hard to stack 31 stacks

and it was really easy to blast recon and boom max burn

[olive ember]

exactly

[dawn warren]

Focused Channeling on purgatus staff -- worth it?

[olive ember]

Give me my recon las back

[olive ember]

Nope taking terrifying barrage instead

Warp nexus is the only good perk and terrifying barrage is 2nd best by a large margin

[dawn warren]

cool cool

[olive ember]

When warp flurry actually works on purge it will prob be second best but

It’s broken rn

[cyan notch]

id take channeling over barrage

[olive ember]

Nah you shouldn’t be getting hit while purging

I think I’ve gotten hit once in the past 5 games while mid staff channeling

Tho again I tend to play save and backline

[dawn warren]

What's the consensus on the best T6 feat?

Not finding soul blaze to help much

[olive ember]

There’s arguments for KB but most people run AB

If you are running AB you want to run warp battery

[cyan notch]

depends on ur staff and build

[spice veldt]

KB lets you snipe elite kills before your teammates can

[gilded viper]

Wait people actually run AB

[spice veldt]

SSS+ tier feat for that fact alone

[gilded viper]

Thought it was either kb or the flame one

[olive ember]

It’s considered meta for purge builds

[leaden thunder]

Ab is the flame one

[gilded viper]

Oh, I'm dimb

[olive ember]

AB is the flame one

You are thinking of quicken lmao

[gilded viper]

I'll be going now...

[spice veldt]

don't worry no one runs Quicken

[gilded viper]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

we don't live in such a twilight world

[gilded viper]

Lol

I remember trying quicken to make melee psyker work

Then one day I found out I need stack for stagger to be good and for some reason it still a coin flip if it want to knock the enemy down or not

[spice veldt]

for me, losing my warp charges made me miss a breakpoint for killing dreg bruisers with a light->heavy headshot with my force sword, and that was really fucking annoying

[olive ember]

I’ve tested and approve this build as BiS for damnation psyker

[safe crystal]

Woah, im gonna run that build, looks sick

[olive ember]

Tell me how it goes

[safe crystal]

Hi5 players are in for a big surprise

[spice veldt]

i guess we'll do what people did to left-handed people in the 20th century and just bully you

[gilded viper]

Which autogun?

[safe crystal]

What perks for autogun? Stamina and carapace right?

[olive ember]

Headhunter

[leaden thunder]

nah

the fast firing one

infantry

[safe crystal]

Yeeaaah the peashooter

Those crushers wont know what hit them

[feral verge]

why warp absorption?

[gilded viper]

When one of the random bullet just sat half their heath

[feral verge]

your only force attack is bb

[gilded viper]

I love the 10% brain bust on gun builds

[leaden thunder]

it's a joke

don't actually run that

[olive ember]

No no run it

BiS

[safe crystal]

Its damnation psyker approved!

[olive ember]

Someone should record a run with 4 psykers running that

[gilded viper]

What warp absorption, I'm not home rn

[olive ember]

Hi damnation

[cyan notch]

best in sugma

[gilded viper]

I can record a run but don't have 3 other friends

[spice veldt]

it's the lvl5 get 10% toughness on warp kill feat

[gilded viper]

[spice veldt]

the one that everyone uses, of course

[safe crystal]

Do you mind if one of the psykers cant run your build completely? One of my friends is still leveling up

[olive ember]

Sure why not

[spice veldt]

smh, such tolerance

[gilded viper]

God the more I look the more I see wrong with that build

But hey it clear hi5 so it got to be good

[safe crystal]

I think his psyker was at level 4 right, so this'll be interesting

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[olive ember]

I have the damnation border therefore my opinion is more valid

[spice veldt]

the other wrong thing is that it also completely skips over the lvl15 feats

and mentions Warp Unleashed and Wrack & Ruin

[safe crystal]

We dont take those, obviously

[spice veldt]

that's how you know it's top tier

[gilded viper]

What if I actually run it to troll what do I get

[olive ember]

🤔 that was actually a mistake lmao

[spice veldt]

hehe i figured

no clearly it was intentional

and you know secrets that we don't

[olive ember]

My approval as a damnation border Psyker

Wrote it up when I should’ve been studying for my midterm

[gilded viper]

Lol

[safe crystal]

Which tacaxe, can i choose?

[olive ember]

What would the worst 15 perk be

All of em kinda have a use

[gilded viper]

What are in the 15 range again

[olive ember]

Communion, aura, lacerations

[gilded viper]

It the one with the block right?

[safe crystal]

CDR, because you have quicken already. Its redundant

[olive ember]

Probably

[spice veldt]

lvl20 is the one with kinetic deflection

[olive ember]

You right tbh

[gilded viper]

Aura, laceration is actually good

[olive ember]

We take mind in motion at lvl 20

[spice veldt]

i hope new players don't accidentally take us seriously

[gilded viper]

Honesty all the 15 is good but seeing the challenge would be too easy with the 1st and 3rd one

[safe crystal]

Im new

[gilded viper]

Wym it damaging approve

[safe crystal]

Im still wearing my prison toilet seat

[gilded viper]

Omg auto correct

[olive ember]

Is there a worse weapon than axe on psyker

It sure

[spice veldt]

you're right, i hit my head on the toilet seat and mistyped

[gilded viper]

Axe is good so

Use claw

[spice veldt]

ah right

[safe crystal]

Claw maybe

[olive ember]

Claw has good cleave tho

[spice veldt]

the devil's claws exist

[olive ember]

Tacaxe is

[gilded viper]

Bm exist

[safe crystal]

Tacaxe can have bromentum

[olive ember]

🤔

[gilded viper]

Tacaxe is actually good with bm

[safe crystal]

I have this

[warm spindle]

Any weapon is good with the right minmax

I mean its not force sword withforce wep damage perk

But its good

[gilded viper]

True but I think claw is on the weakness end of weapons

[spice veldt]

claw has pretty milquetoast blessings doesn't it?

[warm spindle]

The MK IV claw is the only one I use

[spice veldt]

does it even have any power blessings

[warm spindle]

Heavy chaining just destroys hordes

[olive ember]

It’s like a discount heavy sword

[gilded viper]

Atleast when I use it on zealot I just feel like heavy sword can do it better

[near wyvern]

Yeah it doesn't cleave enough for the lack of armour penetration and why on earth does the parry cost stamina when successful

[olive ember]

Wait

Is knife good without peril blocking.

[gilded viper]

Rampage and idk

[olive ember]

Maybe we just run knife without peril blocking

[warm spindle]

Yeah def dont use them on zealot, they have better options

[leaden thunder]

rampage is jsut damage

[safe crystal]

Just gotta dodge more

[leaden thunder]

not power

[gilded viper]

Parrying is such a bait

[olive ember]

Or maybe one of the dueling swords

[gilded viper]

I hate it so much

[warm spindle]

Psyker needs a horde clear of some kind to get things off their ass after BB’ing the 80 specials the game throws at you

[leaden thunder]

parrying has some cheese you can do with it

[spice veldt]

lmao claw doesn't have any power blessings

[near wyvern]

Yes but if you take kinetic deflection you can spam the push attack while still being able to block which for the dagger deals as much as a heavy attack but has double the attack speed

[gilded viper]

Oh really

[leaden thunder]

Crab has some clips of him doing it I think

[spice veldt]

and it has like 30 minimum cleave damage

[olive ember]

How about one of the bad dueling swords

How bad are those

[near wyvern]

Trauma? Purge? AB?

[olive ember]

Knife sucks at horde clear tho right

[gilded viper]

Brb

[olive ember]

Maybe knife + infantry auto?

[leaden thunder]

it does and doesn't

[warm spindle]

Yeah hes got options im just saying he usually needs them

[leaden thunder]

you won't clear the hoard super fast

[near wyvern]

AHH nice so I just have to hit the pox walkers 10 times for them to die. /s

[leaden thunder]

but you probably won't take damge from the hoard

[foggy tangle]

what do you guys think are the best perks for void and trauma? crit hit and flak?

[olive ember]

Infantry autogun + combat blade psyker with warp absorption, wrack n ruin, psykinetic aura, mind in motion, kinetic overload, and quicken

[warm spindle]

Who out here meleeing pox walkers?

[spice veldt]

i guess it has really high base cleave count

[spice veldt]

me :D

[leaden thunder]

crits are bad for those two

one of them wants like

infestd Ithink

[safe crystal]

Wait, no force damage on 2nd row?

[olive ember]

XD wait

[foggy tangle]

ah my void has nexus

[olive ember]

You right

[spice veldt]

smh not using warp unleashed with guns and normal melee

[near wyvern]

For trauma you need +unarmoured +infested, for void you want to have +flak and then whatever rocks your boat

[olive ember]

Infantry autogun + claw sword psyker with warp absorption, force weapon, psykinetic aura, mind in motion, kinetic overload, and quicken

[olive ember]

Damnation approved 👍

[leaden thunder]

columous or gria infantry auto

don't use the agri

[safe crystal]

You got it

[spice veldt]

i say that +infested isn't necessary because poxwalkers are at one-shot range by pretty much every weapon or they get killed by the outer radius damage'

[safe crystal]

I'll have a video tomorrow

[olive ember]

I’m not familiar with the autos which one is which

[foggy tangle]

thx

[leaden thunder]

agri is the good one

[olive ember]

Post it to Reddit as the meta psyker build with video as proof

[spice veldt]

and then we never saw them again

[olive ember]

Don’t bother explaining anything just be like this is the build I run to make damnation ez game

[spice veldt]

have a mic during your gameplay with no pop filter

breathe really heavily into your mic as you play

[viral solstice]

both graia and agri inf autos are actually pretty good

[wise pecan]

I will say, I tried out the cdr reduction on elite kills perk and find that I like it quite a bit more than communion, at least on Surge staff

[viral solstice]

columnus is ok-ish now its buffed

[safe crystal]

My mic is horrible, i'd rather not

[viral solstice]

only downside to graia is that it doesnt one tap flak shooters

but with buffed warp charges agri should do out to like idk 35+m

[wise pecan]

A bad mic only enhances the experience

[viral solstice]

iags too good

[olive ember]

Actually aren’t the headhunter autoguns still worse

[viral solstice]

[spice veldt]

like hearing children scream at a restaurant

[olive ember]

Like the burst fire headhunter one I remember was actual trash

[spice veldt]

it's only good things from there on out

[viral solstice]

they are worse than iags in general but they are much easier to use

[near wyvern]

This is my every evening family dinner

[spice veldt]

damn, that sounds amazing

[olive ember]

You eat dinner with your family?

How wholesome

[safe crystal]

I feel like big E gave this to me today

He knew whats going to happen

[olive ember]

Get that shit out of my darktide experience

[inland sand]

Vraks III is maybe one of the best guns in the game now

absolute murder machine

would be in my top 3 for sure

[olive ember]

• stamina

[warm spindle]

is gun psyker even worth it

[safe crystal]

Its perfect!

[spice veldt]

71% mobility whew

i'm sweating here

[safe crystal]

WAIT

I need to run 3 wound curios as well

[wise pecan]

50% damage, 50% stopping power, so good

[spice veldt]

nice screenshot

[safe crystal]

Wheres all the wound curios when you need one

[safe crystal]

Im gonna buy one off Sour Milk

[wise pecan]

Not using symbols to instantly recognize which build has what? 🤢

[spice veldt]

i can still read it; consider lowering the quality on your screenshot tool

[olive ember]

You might actually need em with the build you are about to run Tbf

[safe crystal]

I immediately forgot quicken takes my stacks away

[spice veldt]

those tactical perils of the warp will come in really handy

warp charges only burden you

[olive ember]

[safe crystal]

The gun takes 32 weakpoint hits to kill a scab rager

Thats 10 dead ragers yeeaaah

[olive ember]

It’s a work of art

I need to try it out when i get home

[spice veldt]

damn you're going to be topping weakspot hits on the scoreboard

whew

[olive ember]

Don’t have friends tho so I’ll be terrorizing random lobbies rip

[spice veldt]

you mean blessing them

it ain't opposite day today

[olive ember]

Yes yes

They will feel my presence

[gilded viper]

what the build

im home anr ready to grief hi5

[safe crystal]

Just a moment

[olive ember]

I believe Columbus was the agreed upon infantry auto right

[spice veldt]

agreed upon to be the best yes

[olive ember]

Yes yes

[safe crystal]

BiS even

[gilded viper]

do it have to be T5 hi or just T5

[olive ember]

Ideally hi T5 for best results

But I’m sure build works on any difficulty

[safe crystal]

Comms plex hi5

My favourite

[spice veldt]

it's a carry build so it'll need to be tested to the limits of this game

how else are we to appreciate its brilliance?

[gilded viper]

true

im ready

[olive ember]

Tbh I feel like knife would be a bigger meme since it’s got zero horde clear

[spice veldt]

? no impact blessings?

[olive ember]

Dunno tho maybe the autogun would actually cover that

[leaden thunder]

tfw not using the hammer sword

[spice veldt]

what are these damage blessings

[gilded viper]

this what the zealot channel told me to put on it

[leaden thunder]

that is what you actually want on it

[gilded viper]

i took their word for it

[leaden thunder]

but that's not as funny

[olive ember]

XD

[spice veldt]

hehe

[gilded viper]

;p;

[spice veldt]

smh

listening to good advice

[olive ember]

I just realized the title of the video can be

“Gun Psyker is meta”

[ornate hamlet]

Hey guys I'm just hopping back on after taking a few months break from the game. What Feats and Blessings are best for a Purg/Forcesword build?

[gilded viper]

just upgraded this grene item i had sitting there

[olive ember]

• stamina again lmao

[gilded viper]

this is for the feat right? i don't use purg/FS

[spice veldt]

hit & run looks too useful terrible; replace it with something like speedloader

[gilded viper]

i want to meme but i actually want to keep this weapon

so no

[spice veldt]

smh

[olive ember]

XD

[spice veldt]

mobility stat is a bit high but it is a 380 gun

[olive ember]

Just get a replacement ez pz

Prob replace the +stam then

[spice veldt]

from what I've heard, sustained fire is additive

so it doesn't multiply weakspot or crit damage as you'd expect

[gilded viper]

nah need to more fast

[olive ember]

Does stam even make you move faster?

Thought it just added a stam bar

[gilded viper]

no

just a bar KEKW

[olive ember]

ah so I was correct

[wise pecan]

Big mood

[leaden thunder]

do you not sprint faster when you have stamina

[gilded viper]

also this is what im running, unless i want to spent more mat on a meme claw sword but i kinda not want to waste anymore

[spice veldt]

on weapons where the ranged weapon sprints faster than your melee, stamina is good

[leaden thunder]

I have never bothered to check

[spice veldt]

but if your melee sprints faster, than having +stam simply makes your relative stamina regenerate slower

yeah you sprint slower without stamina

Psyker and Veteran run at 50% speed without stamina

Zealot and Ogryn run at 75% speed

[gilded viper]

it time

[leaden thunder]

I was pretty sure it was slower, thanks for confirming

[gilded viper]

after i make sure my pc have enough space to rec a 30min run

[vagrant furnace]

Psyker is slow as fuck like everyone being a grandpa or a grandma

[olive ember]

Gl hitting anything in the final area lmao

[spice veldt]

we also have the shortest dodge distance among the classes

[gilded viper]

wait really

i never notice

[full bane]

What dueling sword Mk would you guys say is best and what blessings are best to run on it?

[olive ember]

It’s mostly weapon based I thought

[spice veldt]

I'm reading my information off of this guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

[wise pecan]

Force sword is the best dueling sword

[spice veldt]

weapon mobility stat modifiers are always percentage modifiers on dodge distance

presumably for this reason

[olive ember]

Dueling swords kinda meh nowadays but way back people preferred mk V

Idk about blessings tho

[full bane]

I like ‘em because they’re stylish

[gilded viper]

take one

[olive ember]

Oof

They can’t stand the brilliance of the Meta Psyker build

[gray island]

roll recommendations?

[olive ember]

Replace specialist dmg, replace precog imo

But I don’t use dueling swords so

Not sure

[gray island]

i really need to relook at their blessing lists

[spice veldt]

duelling swords only have 4 or so blessings I think? Can it take on riposte?

[leaden thunder]

ye

riposte is alright now

I think it's comparable to shred number wise

[safe crystal]

Well

We,uh

Finished a hi5

With the build

[olive ember]

Finished or beat?

[safe crystal]

Beat

[gilded viper]

my run is so over

i died

my zealot is throwing

[safe crystal]

I wasnt even the worst according to scoreboard, vet did worse

[gilded viper]

going into 3 bulwak and 3 reaper and dying

[safe crystal]

[olive ember]

🤔

[spice veldt]

evidence obtained

[olive ember]

How was the claw

[safe crystal]

I mainly used the claw

Claw was super good

[gilded viper]

i die to poxbuser being dumb + flamer + no effect mod is actually throwing the game for me

[olive ember]

Alright run it back

Use a knife instead

[gilded viper]

couldn't tell if my toughness was broken or not

[safe crystal]

I took so much damage though, getting toughness back when you lose it is a fight

[olive ember]

Mm claw sword too gud

Replace with knife

Yeah I’d imagine toughness is a battle

[safe crystal]

I'll upload the video, i need to prepare DnD things for the group now :L

Do you want it here or as a DM?

[olive ember]

Up to you

Someone has to make this a Reddit post tho

See if it can be sold off as an actual build

[leaden thunder]

reddit thinks the shield is ogryns best melee

[spice veldt]

who shall take the sacrifice honor?

[leaden thunder]

you can sell them anything

[safe crystal]

Claw sword psyker op

Just forget about warp charges, those are worthless

I kept dumping them every time i saw a ogryn enemy

Its hard to get out of the mindset of having used KB

[olive ember]

Nah thats what they thought last week, they are learning slowly

[safe crystal]

Oh, we only took 16 minutes, damn

[olive ember]

Very very very slowly

[safe crystal]

I DID get carried pretty hard

[spice veldt]

holy shit 16 minutes?

[olive ember]

Ah potato pc mod?

[safe crystal]

We aggroed a demonhost before the mid event as well

Mutant threw the vet on it

[olive ember]

Lmao okay I actually gotta see the vid now

[safe crystal]

The zealots didnt let me do anything

[spice veldt]

show us the goods mate

[olive ember]

since the claw sword isn’t bad enough tho would the knife be a good replacement?

Since we aren’t running peril blocking you can’t push attack spam

And it’s got shit horde clear

[safe crystal]

Knife is an upgrade for me, i've never used the claw sword

[olive ember]

🤔 how often do you push attack with it tho normally

[safe crystal]

Video will be uploaded in 1 hour, so

[olive ember]

Take the time

Make sure it’s in the crispest 4k resolution possible

[wide tiger]

you can still push attack spam without kinetic deflection

you just have to be sure not to get hit in between 😛

[olive ember]

Well yes but it’s not free and it’s got no horde clear 🤔

Is there a worse weapon than the claw sword

[wide tiger]

personally, i dont think so

[safe crystal]

Not for psyker

[wide tiger]

but some people swear by the devils claw

[spice veldt]

tbf, they're not terrible since their base cleave count is decent

[olive ember]

Oh wait

What mk claw you using

[sick solar]

Thoughts on this one? Anyone here that likes using Trauma?

[spice veldt]

though their cleave damage is meh

[olive ember]

Transfer peril isn’t good on trauma

[spice veldt]

high charge rate and high blast radius; i like it, and it already has +flak
reroll +unyielding into +Unarmoured, reroll Transfer Peril into Warp Flurry

[knotty kayak]

Dumpster the peril and you got something good

[spice veldt]

low-ish stats on quell and damage but it's workable

[sick solar]

I was thinking of replacing it.

[digital narwhal]

Replace Unyielding with Unarmoured, and try to replace Transfer Peril with Warp Flurry

[olive ember]

Is mk 4 the worst claw? Or is it mk 7

[digital narwhal]

and then it'll be decent

[spice veldt]

this is what my trauma staff looks like and it works fine on Damnation, one-shotting dreg/scab non-elite enemies

[safe crystal]

This one had a neat light->heavy->repeat horde clear combo, it just took a while for me to get used to it

[olive ember]

Yeah the mk 7 is worse I think

[digital narwhal]

Here's my Trauma.
Unfortunately Hadron has only ever given me T2 Blessings for Trauma Staves.

:')

[sick solar]

mine (above) is a melk item. Trying to get better with psykers atm. I might just pass and try to make one from the ground up...

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFI4k9UdOn0

The second heavy is an overhead

[spice veldt]

hmm yeah might not be worth the melk coins

save your melk coins for good t4 blessings unless you've got a stockpile of them

[sick solar]

isn't quell and Damage kind of dump stats for the Trauma?

[safe crystal]

I mean, i would then just go heavy light repeat

[digital narwhal]

Damage is not a dump stat for Trauma

[safe crystal]

Its more intuitive for me as well, since halb used that in VT2

[olive ember]

Yeah 🤔

[spice veldt]

although it's not a dump stat, you can get away with 75% or so damage on the trauma

since warp charges can make up for the damage deficit

[olive ember]

I will say FS uses light -heavy so I’d def hate the mk 7 more

[still hearth]

Always max damage

Even on Surge and Purge

Everh bit helps

[olive ember]

Damage is dump stat on surge and purge?

Or you joking

[safe crystal]

Wait, aaah

[olive ember]

I can’t tell anymore

[safe crystal]

The timer lied to me, it was 28 minutes

[spice veldt]

smh

thought it was a god gamer team with 16 minutes on hi5

[still hearth]

Purge it's not that big

Surge damage is basically only against two armor types and the CC is the big draw

[digital narwhal]

Damage should be your third or fourth highest stat on Purgatus

[olive ember]

I’ve been fooled

[digital narwhal]

Cloud Radius > Burn > Damage > Warp Resistance > Quell Speed

[spice veldt]

i would like my emotions returned and refunded

[still hearth]

Purge is: Cloud Radius, Resistance, Quell, Burn, Damage then Mobility

I am correct because I said so

[olive ember]

Thoughts on the new psyker meta?

[still hearth]

Yes

I love kt

Very fresh

[spice veldt]

hot and fresh from the minds of psyker chat

[safe crystal]

Hi5 tested

[olive ember]

The best part is you can run the weapons on every class save ogryn

But they have the slab shield for that

[safe crystal]

MiM actually was pretty nice for quelling with your hands ngl

[still hearth]

MiM BiS for gunker

[olive ember]

🤔

Replace with KS?

[still hearth]

Gotta quell fast

[safe crystal]

Would make toughness a bit better, MiM is still technically worse since its just a speed boost

It just felt good

[olive ember]

Hmm

[spice veldt]

even at 0% peril, it's a passive 10% toughness dmg reduc

[olive ember]

Fair

[wide tiger]

10% ranged toughness damage reduction

[feral verge]

psyker ogryn subclass when

[wide tiger]

which is kinda meh considering how much damage a single las shooter does in t5

[safe crystal]

Theres no differentiation between them

[spice veldt]

ranged toughness damage reduction doesn't exist

[safe crystal]

So vets get 75% reduction to all damage with ult

[wide tiger]

Yeah i mean. you take a melee hit

[safe crystal]

[wide tiger]

if you get 10% reduction, you take less toughness damage lol

[spice veldt]

it's the same as vet's Unwavering Focus--it applies to both ranged and melee

[wide tiger]

is it?

[spice veldt]

yup

[wide tiger]

i see

Well still

10% is pretty bad when you consider vets near 100% uptime 75% reduction

[still hearth]

Immeasurably complex

[spice veldt]

better than nothing

[leaden thunder]

a lot of things are bad compared to vet

[wide tiger]

I'd rather have kinetic deflection

[olive ember]

I mean we are comparing kinetic shield to mind in motion

[wide tiger]

well

mind in motion is pretty much nothing too lol

[olive ember]

exactly

[still hearth]

Kinetic Deflection does nothing against guns

[still hearth]

So

Clearly bad

[wide tiger]

Yeah that build hurts my soul

[safe crystal]

Its hi5 certified

[olive ember]

Wait another 30 min for vid

Then we need to sell it to darktide Reddit

That this indeed is the meta psyker build

[wide tiger]

You guys have too much free time lol

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[safe crystal]

The best thing about it? You dont even NEED blessings on the claw sword

Or perks

Mine has sprint efficiency

[olive ember]

Or anything

Are you really a gamer if you are relying on crutches known as blessings?

[still hearth]

"This build is so OP you only need 3 guys to carry you"

[safe crystal]

HEY

[wide tiger]

new meta is to put the weight on your team mates shoulders... sounds like a pretty common tactic in my quickplay tier 5's

[safe crystal]

The vet was worse than me

[olive ember]

Title is “gun psyker is meta”

[safe crystal]

Scoreboard doesnt lie

The zealots did carry pretty hard though

[still hearth]

Scoreboard definitely lies

[olive ember]

Yeah a zealot carrying?

Something is wrong

[safe crystal]

Yeah ik, i was fucking lost for half the game, not knowing what im supposed to do with basically a level 1 psyker

[dusky bear]

this bomber is over here lobbing tactical nukes

[olive ember]

Now we just need a dream team of 4 psykers running that build

To really prove it’s superiority

[gilded viper]

mother fucker i guess

we clear

[sick solar]

Scoreboard works great, btw.

[olive ember]

XD

[gilded viper]

zealot comfirmed a griefer

[leaden thunder]

based

[wide tiger]

I'm kind of surprised they havent buffed the devils claw sword yet... i find its horde clear pretty lacking considering it cant really do much to any specials or elites

[wraith raft]

hi guys, can someone give a void staff "feats" that normally you use?

[gilded viper]

vet left mid way too

[olive ember]

Blessings or perks

[gilded viper]

guess he got fed up with a no impact psyker + greifing zealot

[still hearth]

Teamwork score

14

[wraith raft]

FEATS

[olive ember]

The skill tree?

[safe crystal]

You did so much better than i did

[still hearth]

Feets

[gilded viper]

55min of gameplay

[safe crystal]

55?

[dusky bear]

peets

[safe crystal]

Oh dear

[wraith raft]

yes that skill tree!! 😂

[gilded viper]

i lie

[olive ember]

2-2-2-1-3-3

[still hearth]

The teamwork section of scoreboard is just

[olive ember]

Or 2-2-1-1-3-3

[still hearth]

Insanity

3-2-1-1-1-3

[gilded viper]

make no sense since i collected the most platsteel

but i guess they don't count that

[still hearth]

It's because you wasted ammo

[wraith raft]

Thanks👍

[olive ember]

Autogun

[gilded viper]

soon

or maybe i should compress the video first

i forgot how to

[safe crystal]

Well, after rewatching that run

I did absolutely nothing useful

[olive ember]

Lmao this is why you need to run it with 4 psykers with same build

To prove its usefulness

[safe crystal]

I think i'll just do a new run after i've had some sleep, this one is just... Terrible

[olive ember]

XD

Link? Out of curiosity

[safe crystal]

I can send you this one but most of the first half im just running around, trying to figure out what to do when the zealots just mow everything down before i even see them

[gilded viper]

dude it on 4% on youtube, i think im going to compress it

15gb is too high for my blood rn to upload

[safe crystal]

Sleep deprivation hit pretty hard

Im at 33% now, i'll send it to you as a DM

[gilded viper]

honesty im surprise i cleared, feel like we had 1 working player most of the game

[olive ember]

I'm home now so time to get the weapons and see if I can take a stab at it

[gilded viper]

do it with claw tho

since we all did claw

[olive ember]

👍👍

[safe crystal]

You should use claw 7 since it would be awkward for you

[olive ember]

lmao

[safe crystal]

Mk4 was awkward for me

[olive ember]

this guy

sure

[safe crystal]

:>

[gilded viper]

7 have a weird learning curve

[olive ember]

Suddenly I wished I didn't play coghammer IB in vermintide 2

[safe crystal]

7 is just halberd from VT2, i like it

[gilded viper]

sienna only main so can't relate

[gilded viper]

(was too lazy to level the other classes)

[olive ember]

behold my meta columnus

[safe crystal]

I mostly played Saltz and Krubs

Sprint AND stamina?!

[olive ember]

do I look scrub enough

[safe crystal]

Put the level 30 frame and you're good to go

[safe crystal]

There we go

[gilded viper]

praise be

[olive ember]

From This

To This

idk tho should I use the service raiment

cuz thats the one you get at like 25

[safe crystal]

A lot of people use the t-shirt, i'd use the level up gear

[olive ember]

yeah I was thinking maybe I should just wear the basic bitch level up gear

[sick solar]

Ok, back... found one point in the convo that was confusing to me. I'm guessing this opinion differs due to play style????

[safe crystal]

Damage is a dump stat on purgatus. Purgs damage comes from soul blaze stacks, which is rolled by the burn stat. More range is always good, so cloud radius is good.

[gilded viper]

see u in an hour

[olive ember]

I am ready siblings

[idle bay]

Wich gun ? 🙂

[olive ember]

Typically Radius > Burn > everything else

then it depends on what you value more

damage applies stacks faster but the variation is really small

[gilded viper]

damage from what ik for purg is basically useless since the burn is what do all the damage

[olive ember]

warp resist is nice in general

[safe crystal]

Best of luck

[gilded viper]

mk V infanty

[olive ember]

and quell speed is kinda bleh but worth more than damage imo

The meta psyker build

[idle bay]

Why this particular gun? ( i have not tried infantry versions at all)

[safe crystal]

Dont take this seriously

[olive ember]

damn theres no hi five mission

its a meme

don't take the build seriously XD

[gilded viper]

cause im trolling, it fucking suck

[olive ember]

except when you want to

[safe crystal]

It was fucking hot garbage

[gilded viper]

i love the fire rate but the recoil make it unuseable