I am tired
#psyker-class
forest coral
cyan notch
80% damage
summer prairie
ghost and opening salvo maybe
olive ember
I think a lot of blessings work on the mk 12 tho
fair kayak
Imagine how great this game would be if the blessings actually did interesting things like change the functionality of the weapon
cyan notch
some of em set things on fire
forest coral
Imagine how great this game would be if the blessings actually did interesting t...
That would imply love being put into the game
cyan notch
maybe they dont wanna go crazy bc of lore shit or whatever idk anythjing about 40k but them lore fellars be pretty strict on shit or sum
itd be cool if enemies can chain lightning on kill
or explode
forest coral
Yeah
still hearth
The lore dudes:
Thunder Hammer is weak as shit and should absolutely explode everything it touches.
forest coral
I’d love for some crazy shit we got in chaos wastes from vt
But also that
Shouldn’t like Lasguns be weak af, powerswords be op af
Seems bolters work close to description tho
leaden thunder
lasguns are quite strong
against what we fight
it's just in the grand scheme of 40k they don't do shit to a lot of the scary stuff
but a normal human it's like getting hit with a 50 cal
still hearth
If they cared about lore
We'd be fighting only normie enemies
And Plogryn would just step on everyone who's not an Ogryn
cyan notch
the zombos
still hearth
And Ogryn would punch through enemies
cyan notch
i dont think 4 randos are killing thousands of enemies in 20mins either
forest coral
Or a vet tanking dozens of shooters at once because he decided to breathe different when aiming down his gun
leaden thunder
i'd say a decent few of the weapons are decently lore friendly
like I said about the lasguns, they are powerful but don't pen targets iirc
stuck sinew
Or a vet tanking dozens of shooters at once because he decided to breathe differ...
Lore accurate plot armour
leaden thunder
which is about right
also yeah
we are main characters we have plot armor
so it's lore friendly
cyan notch
i am john darktide
stuck sinew
That's what I named my vet
twilit flicker
Imagine having to start a new character after you died
Lore friendly though!
Were just ... keeping it authentic! Lol
twilit flicker
Oh right, you asked me earlier what that picture was, it was the scoreboard mod at the end of a match
cyan notch
me?
twilit flicker
Yes, that was you, last night. I went to sleep by then sorry.
cyan notch
oh
no i was asking what exactly shouldni be looking at cuz it seemed like a pretty normal scoreboard
twilit flicker
Oh, it was a full team of psykers
cyan notch
oh ok yeah i got that part i thought there was more to it and that i missed something in the scoreboard
twilit flicker
I was going to upload a video of that match and it spent the whole night ... only to fail.
Ill try another solution ...
cyan notch
youtube?
echo turtle
i dont think 4 randos are killing thousands of enemies in 20mins either
You haven’t read a 40k novel I see
in the furious abyss, 7 dudes beat an entire capital ship. The book is pure trash and was probably written on a 4 day cocaine bender
but yeah, in the lore wheover is doing the fighting always kills so much shit
feral verge
is quietude any good
echo turtle
Usually the perspective is space marines, which in the lore are basically captain Americas if he somehow discovered another steroid to use
feral verge
i've never used it
echo turtle
yeah, its fine.
feral verge
with over 150 hours on psyker
echo turtle
essence harvest can be much better if you generate charges consistently
does absorption trigger on kills from soulblaze? I have never actually tested that
summer prairie
it does
feral verge
i've always had essence hravest on
summer prairie
also essence harvest pauses coherency regen while absorption is instant so it clashes a bit less
feral verge
didn't know that
summer prairie
though in practice when you are acutally using purg there isn't much difference as you will be topped off either way
feral verge
is absorption any good?
summer prairie
it's on paper way more toughness while you are deleting a horde, but less toughness when you aren't and are instead forced to e.g. BB targets for toughness
so it depends
lyric atlas
so whats the point of the void strike staff...when the flamer exists? and can kill more dudes, and CC more dudes
echo turtle
Essence harvest is solid, I may try absobtion and switch communion off
leaden thunder
range
feral verge
mine is like an autocannon
lyric atlas
jsut seemns gimped as hell
feral verge
the one that reduces peril on weakspot is good
it's good because it passes through multiple heads
echo turtle
if a horde lines up nice for you, its cool
feral verge
Voidstrike is pretty meh
i respect that
i love it's versatility
it's has meh cc, but it can still do it
leaden thunder
voidstrike falls off pretty hard afaik
echo turtle
versatility? It shoots a ball straight
lucid terrace
man fucked
Who’d he fuck?
echo turtle
Guns exists so
leaden thunder
lucid terrace
echo turtle
did it get buffed sincw beta a lot or something?
feral verge
because it can cc and horde clear, all from range and up close if needed
digital narwhal
Finally a decent Trauma staff.
Sucks that Hadron has only given me T2 Blessings for Trauma though :')
echo turtle
i remember it being pretty whatever into hordes if they werent in a line and didn’t do a lot to specials
leaden thunder
luckily rending shockwave only is for support
so you aren't doing less damage
with it being low
lucid terrace
Still trying to get rending.
digital narwhal
Ye
lucid terrace
Have not gotten lucky, lemme tell ya
digital narwhal
I'm just happy that Trauma is good now.
It feels good to me.
feral verge
i remember it being pretty whatever into hordes if they werent in a line and did...
i kill a decent amount of specials with mine
echo turtle
because it can cc and horde clear, all from range and up close if needed
Does it perform on T5?
digital narwhal
A good mix of CC and Damage.
leaden thunder
it doesn't actually effect the truama's damage
feral verge
and even when i dont, they get staggered
leaden thunder
becuase the truama doesn't care about armor
feral verge
and most of the time, i BB specials anyway
feral verge
Does it perform on T5?
for me, really well
digital narwhal
it doesn't actually effect the truama's damage
Ye I know; I mostly use the Trauma for support and killing Shooters anyway
feral verge
that's why i shill it
feral verge
the warp flurry blessing is the game changer
digital narwhal
Now I just need to work on getting a good Chainsword
near wyvern
Siblings, it is confirmed. Warp Flurry has a hidden benefit, it also reduces your charge cost by the reduction % amount.
All the charging costs are defined as peril per second and simply on/off if you are charging or not. Faster time charging means lesser cost.
feral verge
it literally becomes an autocannon
digital narwhal
**Siblings, it is confirmed. Warp Flurry has a hidden benefit, it also reduces y...
Ye
I noticed that too with Trauma
leaden thunder
can you say that again for the blunt in the room
leaden thunder
ah i see now
echo turtle
Now I just need to work on getting a good Chainsword
What are the optimal blessings for a chainsword? I need to start getting one myself
leaden thunder
savage sweep
echo turtle
and shred or what
leaden thunder
- rampage or shred
echo turtle
word
near wyvern
What are the optimal blessings for a chainsword? I need to start getting one mys...
They would be throw and away
echo turtle
sweeps is solid
leaden thunder
I don't value crits that much for non zealots
uneven drift
Next week, siblings.
leaden thunder
most the time
digital narwhal
What are the optimal blessings for a chainsword? I need to start getting one mys...
Savage Sweep + Ramage iirc
feral verge
i've been wanting to fuck around with duelling swords
near wyvern
Next week, siblings.
Next week™️
leaden thunder
if Dstrike wasn't nerfed into the dirt shred + that would slap
feral verge
i've had this for a long time
digital narwhal
Next Week™️
digital narwhal
i've been wanting to fuck around with duelling swords
Duelling Swords feel good
feral verge
digital narwhal
I have a decent one
digital narwhal
I don’t have many good Blessings on my Psyker yet
So I worked with what I was given
echo turtle
you’ll get’m
summer prairie
digital narwhal
Plus, this has two lights that cleave slightly, so it works decently with Rampage
Also, Ogryn and Psyker buffs next week.
Let’s hope it’s something actually substantial for Psyker.
echo turtle
can you post the damage tables of the void?
digital narwhal
Psyker was the class I first started Darktide with, but I moved to Ogryn when I realised Psyker was... kinda meh.
leaden thunder
man
feral verge
leaden thunder
when zealot buffs
leaden thunder
eh
lucid terrace
Psyker was the class I first started Darktide with, but I moved to Ogryn when I ...
Pysker is the best class tho
echo turtle
wat
digital narwhal
Pysker is the best class tho
Veteran exists
leaden thunder
by quite a bit
lucid terrace
Veteran exists
Idc
feral verge
leaden thunder
1 weapon does not a good class make
digital narwhal
critlot with flamer is, bonkers
Critlot in general is just great
feral verge
hmm today i think i will run staff melee build
digital narwhal
But with Flamer it's especially bonkers ye
echo turtle
so, a full charge is less than a 3 ahot burst from a mk3hh
leaden thunder
crit zealot isn't that good tbh
digital narwhal
Although, Zealot does need a bone thrown it's way in a few areas
leaden thunder
considering that the dr thing in the first tier is basically
become a shitty vet on crit
feral verge
so, a full charge is less than a 3 ahot burst from a mk3hh
yeah, but no need to reload, no need to quell
leaden thunder
low hp zealot and the two handed zealot weapons all need some help
echo turtle
All builds are melee ;P
echo turtle
yeah, but no need to reload, no need to quell
Yeah, reload takes about thw same time as a charge tho, so DPS on the void is like 200 vs a gun which is like 2k
I’m still pretty sure the voidstrike is super undertuned but I’ll try find a good one and give it anothwr go
whats your reccomended stats and blessings?
echo turtle
low hp zealot and the two handed zealot weapons all need some help
Low hp shouldn’t be a build, its cool flavour but dumb to try and play around
worn cypress
yeah, but no need to reload, no need to quell
at this point with the toughness regen on quell feat, I see quelling as a feature lol
feral verge
because with transfer peril, you lose more peril than you gain
feral verge
at this point with the toughness regen on quell feat, I see quelling as a featur...
i've never tested, but transfer peril may work as peril quelling for quietude to take effect
echo turtle
Toughness regen on quell is so littlw regen
worn cypress
oh yeah transfer peril works for that, I remember testing it
echo turtle
every full quell is the equivalent of generating like 1 warpcharge with the alternative essence harvest
worn cypress
it's less regen than the warp charge gain one but you're in more control I guess
near wyvern
I hope the Psyker buffs are either tuning the automatic quelling or making mind in motion baseline
worn cypress
honestly staff passive quelling feels great now
worn cypress
lol vets are fine
feral verge
kidding
worn cypress
though I'd love new vet weapons
worn cypress
like I dont want power sword to get nerfed to the ground, but its a little boring when thats the only thing that makes sense for vets
leaden thunder
it does need another nerf tho tbh
worn cypress
idk, I'm down for new interesting guns or whatever
lol yah def needs a little nerf or two
feral verge
just give psyker the force claymore already
worn cypress
but nerfing it to the ground would suck
worn cypress
cant come soon enough
feral verge
need melee psyker subclass
lucid terrace
Give psyker a skateboard
leaden thunder
let me grind rails like in drg
summer prairie
mostly not
near wyvern
It is for Trauma
near wyvern
Warp flurry trauma inner tranq and warp battery, but yea you need communion and KB
rare furnace
Is crit dmg good on this or should I go for crit chance
near wyvern
Only use communion if you absolutely need it
feral verge
crit chance
rare furnace
Now I got 10 crit dmg 😂
leaden thunder
which is more then double damage
void mural
How do you use purg/soulblaze build? I was trying it on difficulty 3 yesterday and didn't seem to be building enough warp charges to sustain myself through purge staff use. Was there just not enough enemies and it'll work better on difficulty 4/5?
vagrant furnace
If you want to min-max for every type yes, if you want to be stronger vs flak especially, no - matter of personal preference - id go for crit chance that would be my choice
feral verge
@void mural
this is what i run for purga
and yes it works better in heresy+
cuz more shit to kill
feral verge
If you want to min-max for every type yes, if you want to be stronger vs flak es...
good answer
void mural
Yeah, already running that build. I guess it was just lack of enemy density?
feral verge
yeah
void mural
👍
feral verge
if you're level 15+, oyu're gucci for heresy
void mural
I guess I'll reserve that for higher difficulties then
digital narwhal
Fuck, two mid Blessings for Force Sword.
Why couldn't I have gotten Slaughterer or Shred? :(
void mural
Exorcist isn't the worst, especially if you're playing gun psyker
digital narwhal
I play Trauma mostly
void mural
Unstable power 🤢 though
digital narwhal
Hopefully Unstable Power gets a buff next week.
Give it the Blaze Away treatment.
feral verge
hope they fix warpflurry for purga and surge
rare furnace
I got deflector 3 is it good enough or only 4 good for damnation?
void mural
I mean, more is always better, but you've got 75% of 4's strength
feral verge
deflector I is good enough lol
digital narwhal
Even T1 Deflector is good
Why it's good is because it lets you block ranged fire, not for the Block Efficiency
still hearth
The difference isn't big afaik
rare furnace
Why it's good is because it lets you block ranged fire, not for the Block Effici...
Oh I see
still hearth
From 9 to 12%
feral verge
the important feature is blocking ranged fire
rare furnace
I got this one as well
still hearth
Beautiful sword
feral verge
if only you got a screenshot key
vagrant furnace
Dont think too high of damnation, its more about positioning and decision making than tiers of blessings
digital narwhal
Got a decent roll.
Let's hope Hadron doesn't brick it.
Oh wait ye, I need more Plasteel
Time for Damnation
echo turtle
Wait for a better roll
base rating seems to affect the level of blessings / perks. so I would hold out for a 370+
1/10 brunt rolls should be around 370
echo turtle
I got deflector 3 is it good enough or only 4 good for damnation?
From what peoole have pulled from the code, block efficiency only comes into play when blocking into stamina
so kinetic deflection is not affected by that stat at all
with the FS, you are incentivized to instead roll@kinetic shield, and dodge dance for DR
feral verge
base rating seems to affect the level of blessings / perks. so I would hold out ...
Damn didn't know that
echo turtle
deflector, kind of a waste
imo
slaughterer + another damage buff Is how I would roll,
idle bay
Shouty playing Siblings i need advise about perks on this one. About changable Blessing too.
zinc phoenix
it took literally since beta but i finally got a force sword with deflector
and it really is so nice
idle bay
Shoud i switch Thrust on that thing for Momentum (if it works) or for Trauma?
leaden thunder
keep thurst
digital narwhal
Wait for a better roll
I'd rather have something good now and work up to something else than wait
I don't have much for my Psyker
So I want something
Ya know?
near wyvern
Shouty playing Siblings i need advise about perks on this one. About changable ...
When did we get the hammer
idle bay
When did we get the hammer
Psyker chat more friendly than zealot chat 🙂 And some of us playing 2-brain-cells-class as well 🙂
digital narwhal
Okay, it has Unarmoured, so that's good.
Just gotta reroll Crit Chance to Flak.
Kinda spooky having such a bad Blessing though.
Hopefully I get something good on the other Blessing.
near wyvern
So everyone just comes here for advice
digital narwhal
Psyker chat more friendly than zealot chat 🙂 And some of us playing 2-brain-cel...
You should try Ogryn chat
Ogryn chat is the best chat
idle bay
Ogryn chat is the best chat
Not just the best, but also friendliest 🙂
echo turtle
I'd rather have something good now and work up to something else than wait
for sure
idle bay
So everyone just comes here for advice <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
And yes i think it's good ideas to give Psykers HAMMER, Force Hammer!
feral crater
They also go to Memes... But that is a bit harder
brisk panther
what to roll for? thinking flak maybe? but keep carapace or maniac?
summer prairie
you need 3 warp charges with that to kill poxwalkers, which can be annoying depending on your feats
hybrid solstice
psykerbros... behold!
sadly i do not have headtaker 4 or (any other good antax blessings) unlocked so further modification will have to wait
feral verge
Shouty playing Siblings i need advise about perks on this one. About changable ...
keep thrust
its p much perfect
brisk panther
you need 3 warp charges with that to kill poxwalkers, which can be annoying depe...
what do you think about perks tho?
smoky fractal
pens a little low
summer prairie
I'd want +infested over anything else at least
crystal jolt
what do you think about perks tho?
probably keep maniac and roll for crit chance
smoky fractal
oops
void mural
sadly i do not have headtaker 4 or (any other good antax blessings) unlocked so ...
You've got brutal momentum already, so looks good
summer prairie
trauma doesn't have any amazing elite/special breakpoints
crimson patio
👋 What am I looking for besides Deflector on a force sword?
void mural
Slaughterer?
hybrid solstice
what to roll for? thinking flak maybe? but keep carapace or maniac?
i rolled flak on mine, even with +25 carapace it's only really gonna stagger or knock down carapace enemies (in my experience)
crimson patio
ty
void mural
IMO, +carapace is useless on any weapon that doesn't already have armor piercing
leaden thunder
tbf
summer prairie
vs unarmored gets dreg stalker/bruiser one-shot
leaden thunder
the truma kinda does
crystal jolt
probably keep maniac and roll for crit chance
i just noticed the staff is trauma, so probably ignore this
summer prairie
yeah I'm not taking rending shockwave into account
but it probably won't make much difference
leaden thunder
rending shockwave doesn't boost truama's damage anyway iirc
hybrid solstice
dropping a trauma blast on a group of shooters (a lot of which are flak) is pretty sweet
though ultimately you can always change it later if you really want
summer prairie
Flak does get you a scab gunner breakpoint that might take 4 warp charges otherwise
but don't you rather BB those
hybrid solstice
depends
BB isn't AoE so if you are in staff range of a gunner group you can drop that on them
BB also requires a visible target to lock onto but Trauma's secondary AoE can hit enemies crouching behind cover if you place it right
leaden thunder
I think the truma psyker I played with earlier must have had an almost perfect trauma
he was boolin
hybrid solstice
i actually prefer the other staves but i did use trauma in a few damnation games today, it's pretty nice scattering hordes and being able to drop an AoE on yourself to create space if you get surrounded for any reason
also it gets a projectile left-click which you almost forget all the others staves have when you use purgatus long enough haha
it's nice
smoky fractal
and also warp flurry actually works on it
near wyvern
rending shockwave doesn't boost truama's damage anyway iirc
Correct
Although not completely sure how it works with mobs that have explosion resist
leaden thunder
which do?
hybrid solstice
ah yes warp flurry, lovely blessing
near wyvern
Got a decent 2nd Blessing
If it has shred that should work nearly with Devastating Strike but don't remember the pool
near wyvern
Chainsword in general is a bit meh
digital narwhal
D-Strike is too heavy for me
summer prairie
heavies already have enough cleave
digital narwhal
Oop
hybrid solstice
savage sweep is pretty good on chainswords
near wyvern
Bought a Bloodthirsty Chainsword off from Melk, you should have seen my face when I realized it's only for the next hit with it.
digital narwhal
If only the Chainsword could get Slaughterer or Headtaker
twilit flicker
It makes sense, shed needs to hit the same target right? And if youre cleaving through everything ...
hybrid solstice
though it will only really come into play when you're fighting anything that's a group of mooks
leaden thunder
the blessing shred doesn't
leaden thunder
Bought a Bloodthirsty Chainsword off from Melk, you should have seen my face whe...
yeah
my dreams of a 100% crit chance evis, chain axe and chain sword
where crushed
hybrid solstice
is bloodletter any good on chainsword?
leaden thunder
bleed in general is quite bad
hybrid solstice
oh yikes
leaden thunder
for damage at least
the main deal it does good damage against is unyielding
everything else is like
30ish damage at max stacks
hybrid solstice
looking at the chainsword blessings now yeah idk
probably just savage sweep so you can spam heavies into hordes when you're not sawing elites down
leaden thunder
the only chain weapon with really good blessings
is the chain axe
but it's the chain axe
like it has
not just 1
but 3 good power blessings
hybrid solstice
dis really be all of them huh
leaden thunder
yep
and for some reason
both the evis and chainsword didn't get their rampages buffed
but the power sword of all things did
hybrid solstice
lol epic
olive ember
Did you guys hear? Psykers gonna get buffed
Can’t wait for that extra 10 damage to my BB
leaden thunder
I am glad for more ogryn buffs but zealot needs some love, (outside of psyker obv)
I figure they might bring back the better quell on non force weapons
on top of just some general buffs
hybrid solstice
i just wish brain burst wasn't in a spot where you need to take Warp Battery and have all 6 warp charges up to one-shot poxbursters and dogs again
leaden thunder
hopefully wrak and ruin gets changed again
summer prairie
make it work on any hit rather than bb and i'll use it
hybrid solstice
mite b cool
leaden thunder
I figure they make it work on any target
near wyvern
i just wish brain burst wasn't in a spot where you need to take Warp Battery and...
You can't one shot poxbursters with 6 warp charges
leaden thunder
and increase the stacks a bit
hybrid solstice
You can't one shot poxbursters with 6 warp charges
oh uh then i mean just dogs i guess
summer prairie
is wrak and ruin enough to kill them
near wyvern
Lemme check
hybrid solstice
actually i can cope with BB being the strength that it is at higher difficulties, however it is slower than a vet hitting right click and then left click on something's head so there just needs to be a sweetspot
void mural
Lol, doesn't it do like 2 damage per tick at 2 stacks?
summer prairie
it's like 6 damage against flak
void mural
WooOOOoooOOoo
summer prairie
and stays at that for 11 tics or so
void mural
6 damage!
digital narwhal
Why does Chainsword get Skull Crusher instead of something like Slaughterer or Headtaker? lol
leaden thunder
wait
summer prairie
so in theory it could finish the poxburster off but then it would still keep going towards you while the damage is ticking...
summer prairie
because it's a bad source for information
void mural
so in theory it could finish the poxburster off but then it would still keep goi...
Wouldn't that take 18 ticks?
leaden thunder
hopefully the big patch reworks a lot of the shite psyker talents
near wyvern
@summer prairie wrack and ruin will finish the job yea but it takes 6 seconds for the ticks to end it
hybrid solstice
I don't think it gets skullcrusher
im getting multiple results on google that says it does
summer prairie
"minor buff", I'm expecting a few changes at most
hybrid solstice
well most vets have never seen power cycler :^)
summer prairie
dt wartide breakpoint calculator and the steam guides are best sources of information
hybrid solstice
i could just be getting unlucky if by some stretch it really doesn't get it
digital narwhal
hopefully the big patch reworks a lot of the shite psyker talents
I think our Toughness Feats could use a small buff tbh
leaden thunder
hit and run
hybrid solstice
but it doesn't seem that good anyway, whether it can get it or not
summer prairie
Good point
hybrid solstice
yeah idk
leaden thunder
it's normally correct tho
hybrid solstice
just b that way sometimes ig
void mural
"Minor Buffs"
*Psyker gets nerfed.*
"We buffed non-force weapon quell speed while not attacking. Quelling is paused while attacking"
digital narwhal
"We buffed non-force weapon quell speed while not attacking. Quelling is paused ...
near wyvern
TBF I would be fine if they buffed auto quelling while not attacking of blocking
Just gimme back my quelling while running from plasteel to plasteel
void mural
If you're not attacking, you might as well be active quelling
vagrant furnace
I expect a minor buff to survivabilty because right now every little mistake you do costs as much as much as a regular one for other classes
Sorry for the phone typing
fair kayak
The only buff I need is to to replace Quicken with something that doesn't suck balls
maybe with something that enables Gunker
Otherwise Psyker feels pretty damn good after last 2 patches
near wyvern
If you're not attacking, you might as well be active quelling
If I'm not attacking I am running and sliding
void mural
That's fair, but I mostly said it for the meme
near wyvern
I expect a minor buff to survivabilty because right now every little mistake you...
I just run one +wound, kinetic deflection is still strong AF as well
twilit comet
Does anyone know if the GHOST blessing actually works?
timber shale
The only buff I need is to to replace Quicken with something that doesn't suck b...
I'd be happy if they just buffed Quicken to something like "Psykinetic's Wrath expends all Warp Charges, reducing the cooldown and increasing the peril quelled by 12.5% for each Warp Charge removed."
hybrid solstice
I expect a minor buff to survivabilty because right now every little mistake you...
psykers are somewhat squishy, what curios do you run?
hybrid solstice
yeah i run 20+% HP on each curio and also + toughness regeneration speed (ideally also on every curio if you can manage it), it helps out a lot
hybrid solstice
yeah that's the ideal i would say, as for the 3rd perk on each idk
feral verge
Sniper and gunner resist
hybrid solstice
in a minmax world i'd have gunner or sniper resistance or something on each of them as well
yeah
vale nacelle
HP+Gunner resist on all 3 is the true path 🙏
vagrant furnace
I run 1 wound 1 hp % and 1 stam, im not complaining that much, its just that sometimes 1 teamate does a stupid thing and there is nothing you can do about it, like hit hitting barrels or firing at à buster im trying to push back
void mural
I wish I could get curios worth trying to upgrade
All I see is incessant +wounds, and low percentage hps
hybrid solstice
yeah ive only ever seen one 21% HP curio so far
though im sure i'll find more eventually i hope
void mural
Just add curios to brunt or something
hybrid solstice
the weapons from brunt are pretty worthless as it is, im not sure if that would help lol
timber shale
i've found several 21% HP curios, but I haven't managed to roll good perks on them when consecrating 😦
void mural
It would at least let me try to get +hp curios
hybrid solstice
as long as you have the HP blessing and roll one of the perks into toughness regen that should be more than enough
timber shale
feels like its +dockets and +XP every time 🤡
hybrid solstice
oh rip lol
void mural
Just offer curios purchases of each base stat type and it'd be nice
hybrid solstice
+dockets +exp +curio drop chance should all be removed from the perk pool tbh
summer prairie
+dockets is better than everything else tho
void mural
Still trash lol
hybrid solstice
no one is ever going to use those especially considering that max level is where most of your time is spent
summer prairie
if you are going to finish the mission anyway, might as well get something out of it
timber shale
I guess
summer prairie
and there is a money sink now
timber shale
can't really imagine myself ever running out of dockets though
void mural
I don't want meta progression on my stat stick curio
near wyvern
can't really imagine myself ever running out of dockets though
Try to find a 380 from the lottery machine, I guarantee you your dockets will be gone
timber shale
I don't want meta progression on my stat stick curio
I'd be okay with a "+X% plasteel" perk on curios
void mural
Nah man, I want tangible in-game stats
summer prairie
numbers must go up
the only curio perk that actually makes a difference is the toughness regen
void mural
I don't want slightly more currency of any form taking a slot where I could have something affecting the actual fun part of the game: playing it
summer prairie
difference as in you can feel it
gunner res is fine but doesn't come into play often at all
hybrid solstice
this is the best curio i've gotten so far my only real complaint is the mutant resistance, like lol just lol, half the time they just throw you away without doing any damage anyway
void mural
Yeah, though you know you can actually proc the throw
hybrid solstice
wdym
void mural
If they grab you while a wall is behind you, they throw without the slams
void mural
Yeah
void mural
Proper play and you either dodge them, or they don't do any dmg anyway
hybrid solstice
yeah basically
still hearth
Sniper resistance is pretty good
void mural
Yeah
hybrid solstice
yeah it's ballin
void mural
Sniper, gunner, and flamer resistance seem decent
still hearth
Flamer supposedly doesn't work
void mural
Wut
still hearth
I haven't tested though
void mural
Fatshart... why you so bug?
still hearth
I believe its because of how the damage works
Because flames are a debuff
And it's coded weird
hybrid solstice
i probably wouldnt use flamer resistance on psyker though in favor of gunner or sniper
fair kayak
Obese Mako says we need moar bufferinos
void mural
Oh, so we're back to V1 packmaster crap trinkets again?
hybrid solstice
ironically the flamers are vulnerable to being puffed with purgatus to stagger and then getting smacked in the head
void mural
i probably wouldnt use flamer resistance on psyker though in favor of gunner or ...
Of course. But this crafting system...
void mural
At least if they ever fix the bug for it, flamer resist won't be "bad", just not as good as others
timber shale
yeah i never really get hit by flamers
echo turtle
Sniper, gunner, and flamer resistance seem decent
if you’re gonna take res, Sniper,Gunner and Grimoire are my top 3
void mural
Yeah, of course, but the crafting system...
echo turtle
I am currently fucking with a damage resistance skew build
void mural
Bombers are more annoying since the big aor
Oh shit, right, those are separate resistances. I was thinking they were the same stat
hybrid solstice
i would just keep grimoire resist on separate curios instead
void mural
Yeah, bomber, not flamer
echo turtle
i would just keep grimoire resist on separate curios instead
I am leaning that way myself
have a second set
grim to 60 the. two 15s
double grim damnation runs all day with that
hybrid solstice
that's what i did in in VT2, i had trinkets for raw performance and then other trinkets for farming full grim/tome runs on legend
echo turtle
tight
void mural
If only we had a reasonable way to craft good trinkets like V2...
echo turtle
Farming curios is tough, I never find good health or toughness ones on the market anymore
yeah, it’s shitty rn
void mural
For real
hybrid solstice
yeah you cant tailor gear as easily in this game
echo turtle
i mean
hybrid solstice
so who knows how long it would take to acquire such a setup
summer prairie
not that the 1% of toughness ever matters
echo turtle
its not hard to get the perks etc, but not at the levels you want
void mural
Dude, I can't even get any good base curios that I want to craft into something
echo turtle
16% toughness is fine
void mural
All I get are endless showers of +wounds ones
echo turtle
19% health is fine
sure its not anazing, but is 3% toughness gonna make or break you at the end of the day?
void mural
I don't need more than 1 wound curio
digital narwhal
Okay yeah, Trauma + Chainsword feels really good.
hybrid solstice
okay but i want the bigger number though 
echo turtle
wound curios are training wheels
void mural
Maybe you don't, but not all of us are perfect at the game
echo turtle
chainsword is basically a better forcesword
digital narwhal
wound curios are training wheels
5 Wound Damnation Psyker Best Build?
hybrid solstice
imo you dont have to be perfect, you can afford to go down once between every medicae which is pretty good
echo turtle
5 Wound Damnation Psyker Best Build? <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
I would vote to kick that trash
void mural
Anyway, point still stands, I don't want any wounds curios, and thats all the shop ever gives me
echo turtle
I’m not sam gamgee, I aint carrying your ass through mordor
digital narwhal
I only ever run 1 wound Curio on anything that's not an Ogryn
1 Wound + 2 HP for my Psyker
echo turtle
Anyway, point still stands, I don't want any wounds curios, and thats all the sh...
I’m call Bs
your saying you check 6 tomes a day and never see toughness or health?
there are 24 opportunities to get curios in the base shop, at 4 types
melk has a new curio every day
void mural
No, I check maybe 3 at most because I'm not a psycho, and any time it's not wounds, it's with some garbage like +exp
Or really low hp %
echo turtle
unless you started playing yesterday and have only logged in twice
hybrid solstice
for what it's worth, there's only like 2 curios in the shop per hour, and currently i see a +wound curio and a +stamina curio
digital narwhal
Anything was better than Devastating Strikes so-
Infinite Cleave Chainsword kekw
void mural
I ain't got time to be constantly trawling the shop when I'm not playing
echo turtle
yeah I have like a dozen curios I hve upgraded from green
digital narwhal
I'm gonna keep consecrating grey Chainswords till I get Rampage though
echo turtle
it takes a while to get the stuff yoy want. but yiu always get 1 to select via the rerolls
Do the chainswords get hung up in hordes without sweep?
I am@thinking maybe like two + damages would be ideal
just kill kill kill
hybrid solstice
if you just do damnation runs big E sometimes just drops good gear on you, if at least to extract a tier 3 or 4 from
echo turtle
like, an antax, monentum is great but headtaker + Decimator might actually be better
digital narwhal
Do the chainswords get hung up in hordes without sweep?
Not really unless it's against Flak
echo turtle
ah word
digital narwhal
But still, I have a locked in Cleave Blessing
So I just gotta look out for Rampage
echo turtle
its not bad
hybrid solstice
like, an antax, monentum is great but headtaker + Decimator might actually be be...
without momentum i think antax only cleaves like 2 or 3 dudes at a time
digital narwhal
Wrath + Rampage go brrr
hybrid solstice
momentum is what lets you slaughter hordes
echo turtle
does bloodthirsty give 100% crit chance for 5 seconds like it does on the Fs?
echo turtle
momentum is what lets you slaughter hordes
momentum doesn’t increase damage
it still does like 0 damage past the 3rd target
it just staggers stuff
hybrid solstice
even if that is the case being able to stagger as much stuff as you want is amazing
echo turtle
its good, but is it better
something to think about
If I am dodge dancing around, some@extra bois staggering doesn’t necessarily natter to me
especially as a psyker
when I am often block pushing repeatedly anyways
hybrid solstice
well i guess it depends on if you are trying to use the antax as the single target armor piercer that it was originally intended to be, but im not sure if i would want that on psyker of all classes
echo turtle
Its one of the best weapons we have access to
hybrid solstice
specializing it for single target armor piercing on psyker when you have brainburst
echo turtle
thats not what I said
hybrid solstice
it's what i said
echo turtle
increasing damage increases all damage
hybrid solstice
just straight damage is not always good
echo turtle
increasing cleave makes your attack not stop, but you still can hit all the targets you can damage without it
If you do@more damage, you kill thw horde faster
higher cleave doesn’t mean faster killing
hybrid solstice
the weapons that are broken in previous tide games are not powerful because they have the strongest singular strikes in the game, you know this right
echo turtle
that is what I am getting at
hybrid solstice
one of the reasons antax is so good actually has nothing to do with its damage at all
echo turtle
You understand that whether you hve BM or not. an antax hits and damages 3 guys
hybrid solstice
You understand that whether you hve BM or not. an antax hits and damages 3 guys
or actually none, if the horde is mixed
unless you have BM
echo turtle
none?
hybrid solstice
like i said it has nothing to do with killing power
hybrid solstice
if BM isnt on and procced and you clang a bulwark shield it is none i would say
echo turtle
so you are pushing every attack anyways a lot of the time, so unless your attack is stopped on the first, taking + damage is often optimal
true, that can happen
realistically that’s an edge case
hybrid solstice
i mean not really, plenty of mixed hordes have weird conglomerations of hit mass that would give you a similar problem
echo turtle
it’s conventional wisdom to take Brutal momentum, but conventional wisdon is also not always optimal.
people say take BM on tac axes. Weapons that can’t reach more than they can cleave anyaays
Yeah, even just walkers I can feel when BM is procced as it does hang just on trash mobs
hybrid solstice
right and im explaining to you why people take it despite that
digital narwhal
Since Warp Charges are gonna be unique to Psykinetic, do you reckon some staffs like Voidstrike and Trauma might need damage buffs whenever a new Psyker Career comes out?
echo turtle
Yeah I understand your point I am disagreeing with your assement
I don’t need it explained. I fully understand the benefit
hybrid solstice
if you just wanna smash a big guy's head then yeah take the other blessing but what makes it good is not because it lets you do a bajillion damage to those first three guys or anything
hybrid solstice
i do think BM is better if that's the crux of what you are saying
still hearth
BM on Antax is dope af
echo turtle
Flybee thinks becuase I am considering taking a damage over cleave mod I want single tatget
still hearth
But you can survive without it on it, too
echo turtle
fly can’t get past that even though I repeatedly state I am not talking singlw target benefit
hybrid solstice
it's good without it im just saying that i think BM is better, which is what you asked
echo turtle
I’m thinking an antax with Decap + headtaker may bring down hordes even faster than one with BM
still hearth
It can
echo turtle
anyways I’m gonna try build some@more weppies and see how she go
still hearth
And generally it might
But it depends on the horde
And the density
And other stuff
echo turtle
BM lends itself well to block push spam. it’s optimal for horde control
summer prairie
headtaker+limbsplitter if you are push attacking
hybrid solstice
the less mixed a horde is sure, but that wraps back to what i said about doing such a thing on psyker of all classes
hybrid solstice
where you have access to purgatus
still hearth
Since that attack as a cleave cap
echo turtle
headtaker+limbsplitter if you are push attacking
this is a great combo, headtaker is better imo just for when you DO want to chain
still hearth
You want to light spam with BM
As much as possible
But its also not ideal unless you have a choke point
echo turtle
Why wiuld you light spam@with Bm?
hybrid solstice
i mean it'd still be cool idk
i simp for BM
still hearth
It has infinite cleave damage
echo turtle
does it now?
summer prairie
well it does 40ish damage to 3+
echo turtle
i was block oushing in grinder and 0 past the thied hit
summer prairie
talking about lights
still hearth
Yes
hybrid solstice
does it actually cleave and do damage infinitely or
cuz yeah i thought it didnt
still hearth
I've tried it in lab and it munches super thick hordes.
summer prairie
push attack only does damage to 3 as you said
echo turtle
ok cool
still hearth
Lights are great for compact targets
Shoves are great to control enemies and does more cleave to 1st and 2nd target
But no damage to 3+
echo turtle
god damn I wish FS explained this shit
still hearth
Light attacks with BM is basically the reason Antax is as good as it is.
Its still great without it
hybrid solstice
just the nature of higher diffs is what made it so good to me even if it did 0 damage
oh well, i cant complain
still hearth
But BM helps it a lot imo.
summer prairie
with headtaker+limsplitter you can kill 2 groaners with one push attack which is pretty good
echo turtle
BM and decap seem optimal in that case.
I do wonder how often lights sre hitting 3+ tho
Well, I’m gonna have to grind some fuckin meat
echo turtle
no shit
hybrid solstice
yeah i dont think ive encountered them like that probably ever
still hearth
Tbf
echo turtle
well, here I go grinding axe’s again
digital narwhal
Just had a Recon Lasgun Veteran in my game who said I was throwing for using Trauma Staff
hybrid solstice
true, zealots really love antax
karmic copper
Qsooo i just realized thst quel ani canceling voidstaff fucks with flurry stacks... sigh
still hearth
The downside of the push stuff is that it breaks Decimator
echo turtle
Tbf
yeah it’s extreme, but its not uncommon for hordes to be oretty dense
yarp
shred too
solar cloak
really curios what buffs FS is planning on psyker
hybrid solstice
i think the changes to quelling make it handy to have nonetheless though
still hearth
If you could push attack with them on Psyker it'd be ideal
echo turtle
a shred decimator axe for zealot would be incredible
still hearth
But now its like Limbsplitter that's the only real option.
echo turtle
it doesn’t reset headtaker tho
hybrid solstice
i see some zealots really like turt sword mk IX with headtaker
hybrid solstice
for maximum schwing
echo turtle
seems like with the lights the second target is down to 40 damage
and aside from the horizontal swing, you still only hit two
karmic copper
Does queling break nexus flurry stacks? No matter how long quel
hybrid solstice
and to think, all this theorycrafting for the antax
and vet achieves this by hitting the funny button on his powersword :^)
still hearth
Yes
summer prairie
Quelling breaks
karmic copper
Fuck
summer prairie
Ulting doesn't
hybrid solstice
does hitting F reset flurry
summer prairie
Ulting doesn't
hybrid solstice
oh nice
digital narwhal
Speaking of which-
What kinda buffs do you guys wanna see?
hybrid solstice
i wouldnt mind if brainburst casted a bit faster
still hearth
Uhh. Make Mind in Motion useful
summer prairie
if they ever improve BB cast time they'll fix 6-3
still hearth
Preferrably that you just quell at full speed after like 1s
hybrid solstice
6-3?
twilit flicker
I bet they will change quell speed back, a little cynical if i examine that a little. My hopium is they buff mind in notion.
summer prairie
6-3 reduces the cast time by more like 40+%, not 25% so that's another nerf/fix that may happen at some point
still hearth
Every chat refers to things differently
Zealot uses levels
Psykers uses tiers
Ogryn use names
digital narwhal
I also hope they make the manual charge Brain Burst stop building Peril once it's at max charge
hybrid solstice
they could make kinetic barrage give you a set of instacast BB charges or something instead
still hearth
That'd be
digital narwhal
What about that
True, that too
hybrid solstice
like maybe not let you cast 5 instantly, maybe like 3
still hearth
Getting 15% CDR for each instant pop
That's still 45% CDR in ideal conditions
Instantly
Better than Quicken
digital narwhal
Imagine if Kinetic Barrage selected random targets hit by your Psykinetic's Wrath and instantly Brain Bursts them
still hearth
Why is Quicken so bad
hybrid solstice
well im sure they'd have some number tuning to do, if they did that
still hearth
What if
They actually
Make the ult different
Instead of giving us different buffs
digital narwhal
Ye
still hearth
Kinetic Barrage popping things in a 5m radius
AB can be the same
Quicken could be that you don't shout but instead get the faster charge on everything and reduced costs
Damn
Imagine
Suddenly choices
hybrid solstice
also ascendant blaze has a warp charge generating passive attached to it reagarding soulblaze, and purgatus is already so good , i question why the other level 30 feats dont have something similar
digital narwhal
Serious Hopium huffing right here
twilit flicker
I remember ppl saying kinetic flayer should be 5 seconds and prioritize specials. Imagine getting 4 warp charges in 20 seconds, you'll never have to BB manually again. It was unexamined idea though, kinda hilarious thinking back on it
static epoch
Personally I would prefer something that gives a reward not just by the press of a button but by synergizing with something else.
Perhaps targets affected by wrath could have our cast time on BB become shorter.
still hearth
Kinetic Flayer should be 10% all the time.
leaden thunder
maybe have a per target cd
hybrid solstice
wdym 10% all the time
digital narwhal
Yeah there needs to be better ways of generating Warp Charges for staffs beyond Purgatus
leaden thunder
so you don't just
twilit flicker
Thats still like 30% stronger hehe
leaden thunder
delete
hybrid solstice
you'd delete bosses with a recon
still hearth
No CD
digital narwhal
wdym 10% all the time
Take away the 15s cooldown
Reduce chance from 15% to 10%
digital narwhal
That's what they mean
still hearth
That's roughly 4 headpops in an entire clip
digital narwhal
Wait
hybrid solstice
you could also delete bosses with a purgatus
still hearth
It's already 10%
hybrid solstice
since every tick can proc flaying
digital narwhal
mb
leaden thunder
give it a per target cd(that is still quite low)
still hearth
What's funny is
hybrid solstice
give it a per target cd(that is still quite low)
i agree with this
still hearth
That it's only an average DPS increase of 85
But Purge would be nutty
Make it less % or something idgaf
summer prairie
purg hits like a million times and they would all have a 10% chance to bb
still hearth
Just remove the CD.
digital narwhal
That change would instantly make Surge and Trauma able to compete with Purge too
hybrid solstice
absolutely purg could break such an ability
static epoch
What about a mechanic where you fill a certain resource pool by killing things and when that reaches a limit, it either slows or halts the expiration of warp charges. If you are good at killing and can keep killing you can maintain it easier, no need to change how the weapons work in relation to that.
summer prairie
surge shouldn't have a target limit
digital narwhal
I hope they remove the reduced damage of chained lighting per target from Surge
summer prairie
just let it flow through the whole horde
pine relic
They were actually shit talking me.
digital narwhal
Surge should always do max damage
gleaming comet
what are y'all hoping for with the Psyker buffs next week? Thinking they might boost the class's base Toughness a bit? 👀
still hearth
Until you let go
summer prairie
yes please
summer prairie
would be so pretty too
gleaming comet
not necessarily up to Vet's absurd 200, but even smth like 150 👀
digital narwhal
what are y'all hoping for with the Psyker buffs next week? Thinking they might b...
I hope they remove Surge's reduced damage from chained lighting, so that it always deals max damage.
hybrid solstice
deadass no one likes maintaining warp charges manually, the more automatic the better i say, if they even have to stay at all
gleaming comet
yeah fair
still hearth
I doubt they'll buff base stats
summer prairie
now I want a mod like that just for grinder
still hearth
But who knows
I think people wouldn't mind warp charges being an upkeep thing
If they were more impactful overall
hybrid solstice
perhaps
digital narwhal
They could rework some of the Feats, like how they reworked one of Ogryn's feats
gleaming comet
it just feels weird to me that Vet has more base toughness with the explanation that they get it because of being a ranged-heavy class, while Psyker's out here with the same base toughness as Zealot and Ogryn
static epoch
I hope they nerf everything so the game can be challenging again, it's a joke right now 😄
still hearth
Veteran needs heavy nerfs
hybrid solstice
the only time i ever find myself paying attention to charges is to check if i have 6 to dump into an ascendant blaze proc
still hearth
They're playing the game on easy mode
gleaming comet
at that point we just need a diff 6
digital narwhal
I hope they nerf everything so the game can be challenging again, it's a joke ri...
Okay but have you played a game with Knife Zealots and Recon Las Veterans?
hybrid solstice
sometimes i dont even do that though
digital narwhal
There's your challenge, right there.
static epoch
Good point 😄
still hearth
I carry games as Knife Zealot
Knife + Revolver is goat
If you think Surge is a good weapon then you can't say that this combo is bad
twilit flicker
Actually fun
digital narwhal
Also, reckon Quietude should be increased 5% Toughness per 10% Peril quelled to 10% Toughness per?
still hearth
Quietitude is kind of nutty atm, idk.
static epoch
I will say having played a ton of matches with all the staffs, Trauma is by far the best one in the case of "helping any team comp".
still hearth
You can get so much toughness back so quickly
gleaming comet
Surge hasn't ever felt particularly fun or good to me tbh, it's just felt like a win-more staff
digital narwhal
I will say having played a ton of matches with all the staffs, Trauma is by far ...
Trauma is the most pub safe Staff, ye
still hearth
Surge removes certain enemies entirely
leaden thunder
surge is very much a support staff
still hearth
And its good vs Flak and Carapace
still hearth
But otherwise I'd rather have anything else
leaden thunder
if that makes sense
digital narwhal
Surge just needs to not do reduced damage to chained targets
gleaming comet
it definitely does remove certain enemies entirely, but idk I'd just rather cover the weaknesses of Brain Burst with something like Trauma
static epoch
Surge is Trauma without the damage 🤡
still hearth
The reason I don't care about Surge cc
summer prairie
surge does more damage than trauma tbh
still hearth
Is that the other staves CC
hybrid solstice
surge only hits up to like 8 things i think, i do wish killed just a bit better in light of that
still hearth
And they CC more targets and Trauma CC is even better in my eyes.
digital narwhal
Surge Staff is like Shield for Ogryn in some cases.
"Look, I'm CCing all the enemies!" when you could use something else and kill them instead.
gleaming comet
Brain Burst to me is my equivalent to my Zealot's TH or an Ogryn's Can Opener Ripper Gun, so I've already got anti-armor baseline and my weapons should build around that
echo turtle
Is that the other staves CC
sure CC is for elite packs and area denial for bursters dogs trappers etc
static epoch
I think I need more clarity on the inner impact zone before I think about how to change it.
Sometimes you just don't know where you hit.
But you know you did something.
summer prairie
surge kills most elites it CCs pretty efficiently
echo turtle
surge area denial cannot be understated. Its offensive power lines in digging out scab and dreg gunners