psyker-class

[blazing oak]

It listed loner as chaotic evil >:(

[spice veldt]

damn that sadness turned into anger

[blazing oak]

Yes

[restive slate]

Cause introverts all secretly carry a gun in their backpack or something

[astral lark]

it means the writing is garbage 🗑️

yeah but even this is untrue, just need more stagger

need bigger boop

[ornate hamlet]

they're actually uninterruptable during certain attacks

that's what they meant

[astral lark]

some animations can’t be interrupted but it isn’t due to uy

its just that particular animation

i go back to original assessment, the writing is garbage

and also apparently range falloff vs ramp up

[still hearth]

Bosses can only be staggered by specific types of stagger.

[astral lark]

abomination sure, but the guide was about uy no?

[still hearth]

Not unyielding the armor type

Since Ogryn are staggerable

[astral lark]

but the title here liters says uy

[still hearth]

Yeah its just a shitty article

[astral lark]

kek agreed

[still hearth]

I mean

This is my favorite line

And it'll never not be funny

[astral lark]

ya completely trash

[still hearth]

Another 10/10

"The way to kill enemies CAN differ depending on the enemy"

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-vacation-no-shit-gif-24027052

I'm not meant to hit every enemy the exact same way???

Insane

[astral lark]

nah shooting in the face until dead doesnt work no shit

[still hearth]

Bruh

Unyielding enemies are like the easiest enemies to deal with

[spice veldt]

well bulwarks tbf

[astral lark]

Slam Power Maul

[still hearth]

Bulwarks

[astral lark]

or brain burst

[still hearth]

Or

Literally dodge one attack

[spice veldt]

psykers don't exist

dodging doesn't exist

[still hearth]

And then beat them up and take their lunch money

[spice veldt]

violence doesn't exist

[astral lark]

walking doesnt exist

[spice veldt]

you don't exist

[still hearth]

WHO WRITES THESE

[astral lark]

pretty sure the bulwarks are slow enough you can technically dodge by just walking

[still hearth]

WHO READS THESE?

WHO ARE THEY FOR

[astral lark]

not even sprint.mdodge or slide

[still hearth]

What are these kindergarden remarks

[cold geode]

this seems to be turning into vet chat at this point

[still hearth]

"Hit them where there is not armor/shield"

[spice veldt]

what else is there to talk about

[still hearth]

Uh

Bulwarks having

Weird things

Where you can hit the shield and damage them

But not damage them if you're in front of them

[spice veldt]

weird

[still hearth]

Yeah if you swing around them

And your attack passes through the shield

Its carapace

But if you hit in front of them they're 100% immune

[spice veldt]

that's soooo quirky

[still hearth]

But

"Hit them in the back"

[cyan notch]

i love backshots

[viral solstice]

when they give poxbursters a climbing animation

thats it its all over

[blazing oak]

Probably part of a large volume of low grade articles that are constantly written for content

Put in the minimum effort get it out

The sentences are written like a high schooler reiterating the same point to meet the word minimum

[spice veldt]

trauma staff users gon be happy

aka me

[still hearth]

I don't get how people would get paid for stuff like this

An AI could do a better job

[feral silo]

Hiyas! I'm new and want to learn how to play psyker. I'm level 14 and working on figuring things out but I wanted to know what the most optimal build path would be? Should I build more towards brain burst and toughness regen or focusing on warp attacks on force weapons?

[viral solstice]

because its always free respeccing don't worry about building towards stuff - just pick up every new weapon as you unlock it, try and set up what you have to match it, and see how things feel

[feral verge]

Hello sibling

[feral silo]

Hello sibling!

[spice veldt]

from an optimality perspective, the force sword is quite bad at lower levels because of the stat scaling

[feral silo]

yeeaaah...i've seen that

[spice veldt]

and it depends on good blessings to be particularly good

so a lot of RNG and materials invested to make it good

[feral silo]

Thank you! I'll keep trying with different stuff and see what works best!

[spice veldt]

though getting the Slaughterer blessing on it should be good enough to make it stand amongst the other melee weapons

[feral verge]

If you want to see a build, this is my primary setup

[viral solstice]

but i mean if ur low level and ur a genuinely new player ur playin malice at most right

[feral silo]

hmm...I saw something about the combat knife for mobility and doing the "Force lightning" Setup with brain burst as a main ability and the shock staff for aoe

[viral solstice]

and im pretty sure a level 11 force sword is gonna chop malice up gucci

[spice veldt]

true

[feral silo]

Thank's so much, sibling! I'll try it out and see how well it works for me!

[spice veldt]

force sword also still has pretty decent cleave with its heavies

knife + lightning staff does not have a lot of hordeclear

[feral silo]

I'll definitely give the force sword another try

[feral verge]

I use force sword, and voidstrike staff

And yw

[spice veldt]

you generally want some hordeclear on your melee or staff; most psykers opt to have the hordeclear on their staff since the staffs are particularly good for them

[feral silo]

Sweet, I’ll test those out!

[spice veldt]

and all of our staffs are CC

we have no DPS staffs as of yet

[feral silo]

Hmm..I think I unlock the flame staff at level 15? Should I try that or use the void strike or lightning staff?

Voidstrike just sounds cool lol

[viral solstice]

voidstrike is pretty fun especially on malice

[spice veldt]

the flame staff is generally considered to be the best, though it has diminishing returns if somebody else on the team is using it

and players are usually running flamethrowers of some sort

I personally run the Trauma staff

[feral verge]

80% of the time, I use my staff. I only really use force sword (with deflect) to block shooters when taking fire, and for straggler enemies that get too close (which is rare with voidstrike)

[spice veldt]

but, once again, the Trauma staff is a weapon that scales really hard with stats, so it's quite terrible at lower levels. For example, it's charge rate scales from 2.5 seconds at 0% to 1.3 seconds at 80%.

[feral silo]

Hmm..so no cool melee Jedi force user setup? ^.^;

[viral solstice]

i mean

there definitely is that

force sword with deflector

theres a blessing for the force sword that lets you block bullets

[spice veldt]

Trauma staff is good for setting up melee kills

[viral solstice]

which is pretty jedi

[spice veldt]

because its high stagger will throw enemies on the ground for some time, allowing you to special them

[feral verge]

This is the staff. The blessings on it are 'best in slot' imo

It's like an auto cannon

[feral silo]

Oohhh so you use your staff more than you should use other things? I was hoping to do the goofy Jedi thing at some point lol

[feral silo]

Geez that’s a lot of damage

451?!

[spice veldt]

there aren't really any "jedi" ish things so far besides the deflector blessing to block bullets

[feral verge]

Yeah, staff and BB. sword as utility or backup

[feral silo]

Gotcha gotcha

[viral solstice]

i mean u kinda mindblast ppl when u special them

and setting ppl on fire with force sword

when u crit

[spice veldt]

ah that too

[viral solstice]

i havent used force sword much but all i did for horde clear was weaponswap cancel l1 h2

which wasnt too bad

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XEbKwWDIdROEb/d1337RoZ0tWL?invite=cr-MSxRYXMsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[feral silo]

Hmm…I can’t decide on a main source of trauma regeneration, I wanted something that would be fast and consistent as well

[viral solstice]

whats interesting about it

is that its surprisingly good overall damage

it just doesnt kill individual models quickly

[feral silo]

Also I wanted to figure out if trauma regen affected any of the feats

[spice veldt]

toughness regen i assume

[viral solstice]

like 70 on cleave is really nothin to sniff at

[feral silo]

Yeah that sounds like a lot of cleave

[spice veldt]

there's some synergy

[feral silo]

Yes that

[spice veldt]

Essence Harvest procs on any warp charges gained

[feral verge]

What's the best dueling sword again? I've been collecting alot of 365+ ones

[feral silo]

Even if you’re full on warp charges?

[spice veldt]

mhm

[viral solstice]

hell yeah

now thats a bideogame

[feral verge]

1 hour

[spice veldt]

your lvl15 feat line has "Psychic Communion", which grants a chance to gain a warp charge on kill
your lvl25 feat line has "Kinetic Flayer", which grants a 15% chance to randomly brain burst an enemy when attacking them (with a cooldown, and you only gain warp charges when this BB kills an enemy).
your lvl 30 feat line has "Ascendant Blaze", which grants a 10% chance to all Soulblaze kills to gain warp charges

[feral silo]

Does the additional toughness regeneration affect the regen of essence harvest?

[spice veldt]

all of these methods of gaining warp charges will proc essence harvest

if you're talking about the perk on the curios, no

[feral silo]

Ah I gotcha

[spice veldt]

that only affects the Coherency regeneration (the regen you get when you're near your teammates)

that curio perk will affect both the delay and regeneration rate

it's considered very good

[feral silo]

Ooohhh okay that makes more sense

Hmm…what curio’s should I be looking into to synergize with warp siphon?

[feral verge]

I prefer hp

My ideal is

[feral silo]

Because I heard from someone in the hub area that the 10% on warp kill isn’t that good and the 5% on quell is bad as we’ll because of how slow you quell

[feral silo]

Yes?

[near wyvern]

Get one +3 stam, helps a lot with sprinting and defending yourself when surrounded

[spice veldt]

at lower levels, your quell speed stat on staffs probably won't be that good

[strange wigeon]

this looks like you've done an entire Chaos wastes expedition lol

[spice veldt]

but quietude is still quite good because you regenerate toughness for something you're already doing

and you can regenerate toughness without enemies nearby

[feral verge]

20%hp blessing + 5%hp perk + 22.5% toughness Regen perk

[spice veldt]

and presumably, your weapons all have terrible warp resistance, meaning that they generate a lot of peril

[feral verge]

Then for the last perk, resist sniper or gunner damage

[feral silo]

Eheh..yeah

[viral solstice]

oh huh with 6 warp charges up, slaughterer and high peril this force sword is pretty spicy

[feral silo]

Alright, that sounds good to me!

[feral verge]

I have all three curios like that equipped on my psker

257 HP. 67% toughness regen

[uneven drift]

Tougheness+gunner resist+toughness regen.

[pine relic]

The horde keeps spawning and our veterans keep dying, it was almost a dead loop

[feral silo]

Ohhh see that makes sense

[spice veldt]

be careful not to get tricked by Gunner resistance, because that only applies to the elites (the ones with the ammo backpacks and the ogryn enemies with the machine gun)

[feral silo]

That sounds like a well rounded stat pool

[viral solstice]

oh huh

this can one shot mutants

thats not so bad

[uneven drift]

If you got 90% regen your effective HP just through the roof as soon as you stay in coherency since you can regen toughness unlike hp.

[spice veldt]

yeah, you probably want HP as you're getting used to this game

[feral verge]

The only thing 'bad' about it is no +wound blessing. So I can only go down once. After that I'm dead (in heresy+)

[spice veldt]

you'll prob figure out your own build later on

[feral silo]

Oooo, see I had thought of doing stamina regen and max stamina so that I could guard and protect people while they’re doing tasks in the fight like fixing the information skills

[feral verge]

But I usually avoid death. Medicae is typically common

[spice veldt]

I personally run stamina regen% and a +stamina curio, but that's mostly because I'm a melee-focused psyker

stamina regen is not totally necessary because Psykers have an insanely low stamina regeneration delay of 0.5 seconds

[feral verge]

I want to melee psyker

[spice veldt]

compare this to veterans who have a 1.25 second stamina regen delay

[feral silo]

Yeah you’re right, I kinda just wanted some help being pointed in the right direction 😅

[feral verge]

But my staff is so damn good I just can't in good conscience do it

[strange wigeon]

the endless horde bug is so annoying, started to avoid refinery and excise vault because I've seen it too much

[feral verge]

Atleast on damnation

[feral silo]

Honestly I want to do melee psyker too lol

[spice veldt]

ye; just wanted to say to not to get too locked down by what you're running at lower levels

[viral solstice]

i mean

all u need to do melee psyker is belief in urself

and an axe

[feral silo]

I didn’t know psyker had fast stamina regen delay!

[viral solstice]

yeah psykers are pretty speedy

[spice veldt]

yeah, the game does not explain this to you at all

[viral solstice]

to be fair

[pine relic]

After this one, definitely.

[viral solstice]

its just meant to be stuff to make the classes feel diff

[spice veldt]

in fact, this game has a tendency to not explain things to you

[feral verge]

I didn't know that

[viral solstice]

like it doesnt explain that ogryn are slower to change direction or have delays on things

[feral silo]

I appreciate that

[viral solstice]

but u feel it

[spice veldt]

one of the reasons why I swapped from vet to psyker was for that sweet stamina regen delay

even if it meant giving up the power sword

[viral solstice]

i play a stamina drain build on vet

the ultimate sacrifice

[spice veldt]

smh

i hated losing stamina on aiming

i never ran crit builds on vet so I didn't exactly make full use of it

[viral solstice]

well... u get it back when dodgin

i dont even care about the crit i just do it because its fun watching the stamina bar move

[spice veldt]

i never used that feat cuz it felt unreliable to me

[viral solstice]

[spice veldt]

and there were always grim missions to regen stamina from lmao

[viral solstice]

look its goin up its goin down its goin up its goin down

[feral silo]

Yeah, normally I play gunners but I wanted to try out like a “spellsword” kind of thing! what’s your build setup if you don’t mind me asking?

I’ve got a ranged build path to test and I’d like to have a melee oriented one as well

[spice veldt]

Trauma staff for the dual purpose of killing clumps of shooters at range and staggering melee elites to set up kills for my Force Sword
Force Sword with bloodthirsty (guaranteed crits for 5 seconds after special kill) and Slaughterer (increased damage, cleave, and stagger on kill. Stacks up to 5 times)

[viral solstice]

if ur really cool ur gonna swap slaughterer for blazing spirit

[feral verge]

Also, a few of the psyker penances are ass. But ppl in this server are usually down to group up and help each other get penances

[viral solstice]

just waiting until i can get bloodthirsty for this badboi

then im gonna fire sword some infants

[spice veldt]

the mutant will burn down while it slams you

[viral solstice]

[feral verge]

How often do you crit @viral solstice

[viral solstice]

i mean on that weapon not much

im not using it

[feral silo]

I honestly didn’t even wanna suffer through that and much less have someone else do it with me 😅

[viral solstice]

thats why im waiting for bloodthirsty

bloodthirsty = 100% crits

at the moment

[uneven drift]

I wish force sword have a better moveset, shit hits like a wet noodle.

[viral solstice]

im still using this shit

[feral verge]

Yeah I need it too@viral solstice

[viral solstice]

the worlds most cursed weapon

[feral verge]

Atleast the force sword's alt attack chunks

It's slow but it chunks

[viral solstice]

that axe hits quickly and it chunks

but

u dont want to use it

[feral verge]

Yeah

[spice veldt]

and yet you do

[viral solstice]

if u havent tried a rashad before

[feral verge]

Aesthetic

[uneven drift]

#fixrashad

[viral solstice]

i mean

why would u need to fix it

its a work of art

[feral verge]

I care about aesthetic

Force sword cool

Axe? Lame

Force axe? Would be cool

[viral solstice]

faxe

but the rashad is kinda a force axe

u need to be psychic to understand how it works

[feral verge]

😔

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XgAEaMKO6HWzB/d1337yWdXUgW?invite=cr-MSx2dWEsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

on the other hand u can do this

which is cool

but u can only do it once

[feral verge]

Fellow loner psyker

[viral solstice]

because the second one

[uneven drift]

Sucks that there are rarely only one bulwark around.

[viral solstice]

u have to look at the sky

i mean

thats the best part

i can chain kill infinite bulwarks

if they attack

u literally just kill them in 2 hits

[strange wigeon]

is "look at the sky" the "touch grass" of psykers?

seems to have benefits

[viral solstice]

with the rashad

looking at the sky accomplished many miraculous things

[cyan notch]

rashid

[viral solstice]

the only issue is that if u kill one

u need to be REALLY careful with hitboxes

to get the next one

if u, like me, have a bricked rashad with brutal momentum

but yea bb -> 1shot

charge f during charge, full thrust into follow up

or attacks

all work

[feral verge]

Need force claymore

[uneven drift]

Well, it's actually in files but not in game.

[feral verge]

Yeah

I need it fatshark

Bad

[uneven drift]

Not sure which class would get it tho

[feral verge]

Ogryn obvi

Force sensitive

[uneven drift]

Vet need another buff.

[feral verge]

Weakest class

[viral solstice]

imagine if they add a force axe

and its got rashad hitbox

[uneven drift]

Evrything is rashad now.

[viral solstice]

honestly the fact u can even damage more than 3 poxwalkers at a time with force sword

makes it op feeling to me

ive been broken by 2 long using shovels

[feral verge]

@viral solstice have you used the duelling swords

[viral solstice]

a bit, didnt seem super exciting

[feral verge]

I've been collecting a bunch. Idk what's the best

[viral solstice]

spider monkey dodge

but ye i dont have the insider info there alas

i didnt even realise

there was more than one type

until quite recently

i just saw them and threw them in the bag

[feral verge]

😔

Wish preacher could use them

[viral solstice]

its just when i saw the name i got excited

i was like oh cool

[feral verge]

Saltzpyre 2

[viral solstice]

a weapon that will have a proper parry mechanic

alas

[feral verge]

You can make believe with the riposte blessing

[still hearth]

I'll riposte

By dodging

[ornate hamlet]

0 reason to parry when you can CC

[still hearth]

[viral solstice]

i mean

aside from parry being a mechanic i just like

[ornate hamlet]

purge and surge both have strong CC, you don't ever need to parry, just spam CC, dodge, and use axe to quickly dispatch non horde enemies

[viral solstice]

i like parrying stuff

clown enemies with their own moves

[ornate hamlet]

kill instead

[viral solstice]

shits tite

[still hearth]

Claw parry needs to do 10x more damage

[viral solstice]

i mean

i would take them giving it a proper implementation where if u press it with idk 100ms of an attack landing it doesnt go on cooldown

so u can multi-parry with good timing

as is its just this weird worst of all worlds

[feral verge]

The Worst of All Worlds

Good book title

[viral solstice]

the anti-leibniz

[feral verge]

Thanks

[viral solstice]

the nemesis of dr pangloss

[viral solstice]

i got to bully a plogryn in game just me and a vet but then he got hit by a trapper and he ruined it

[strange wigeon]

since the update I've been getting the T-rapper bug on elevators, trapper spawns and can't decide where to go so she spams her spawning voicelines with 0.1 seconds delay, sickest album of 41. millenium

encountered it like 5 times yesterday, you'd enjoy it crab

[viral solstice]

i have enjoyed it shes really got some sick lines

but i guess it makes sense

its set to a trap beat

[undone mirage]

#rimshot

[foggy pebble]

should I upgrade this staff never used void not sure what perks and blessings are good for it

[feral verge]

@foggy pebble big yes

[cedar cove]

I hear good things about the quell-on-weakspot-hit blessing.

[feral verge]

Voidstrike is best staff in the game imo

[foggy pebble]

how does warp flurry work

does it affect full charge shots

or would i spam low charge shots

[feral verge]

Just keep spamming alt charge

Low charge

It gets faster and faster

[foggy pebble]

oh i see

[feral verge]

It's like an auto cannon

[foggy pebble]

what perk should i reroll off

[feral verge]

My god staff

Get transfer peril

For perk

It's a toss up

[foggy pebble]

i see

[feral verge]

I think I'd get rid of specialist and replace it with flak armor

[foggy pebble]

whats your feat build with it? 2-2-1-1-3-3?

[feral verge]

Extremely versatile

[cedar cove]

Can I ask what the optimal feats are for purgatus?

[feral verge]

Uhh

Oh feats

I was thinking blessings

Ascendant blaze

[cedar cove]

[feral verge]

That's the only thing I have different on my purga build

Vs my void build

Cuz ascendant blaze gives you warp charges on kills with soul blaze

[median elk]

121212 or 121213

[feral verge]

Purga kills count towards that

Oh, and warp battery

Cuz ascendant blaze gives plenty of charges

[cedar cove]

Many thanks.

[feral verge]

Once it's at max speed, just spam 50-75% charge shots

[feral verge]

Np

[feral verge]

On many maps, you will melt hordes before they can even get close

[cedar cove]

And lastly, what for surge?

[feral verge]

And stagger alot of specials

[feral verge]

I haven't used surge in a long time

But it'd be similar to purga build

Ascendant blaze

To destroy hordes, cuz killing power on surge is meh

[cedar cove]

Splendid. Ta.

[feral verge]

Np sibling

[strange wigeon]

also don't forget with Ascendant blaze that your shout goes through walls and has a pretty long range so with 6 stacks you'll have enough stacks to kill shooters behind cover and seriously soften up elites

[feral verge]

@foggy pebble oh and void cleaves through several targets

That's why quell peril on weakspot is awesome on it

Just go bowling

You'll get several headshots in one shot

Let's you spam alot of shots

[cedar cove]

[feral verge]

You will rarely have to quell peril manually

[hoary hearth]

Is it better to run hp or toughness curios? I feel like hp curios is better since you have more base hp than toughness

or just go full stamina with deflector?

[feral verge]

I prefer hp for this reason

I have a whopping 257hp on my psyker lol

I prefer HP blessing, HP perk, toughness Regen perk and then sniper/gunner DMG resist

Got all of that stacked on my curios

67% toughness Regen in total

[spice veldt]

if you don't run kinetic deflection, stamina is nice

i prefer some toughness since I think our toughness feats are rather quite good and our toughness is usually always up

though at least one health is nice for snipers, poxbursters, grimoires, etc.

[near wyvern]

Just joined in on quick play. People are at the final boss, boss half way down in Damnation hi. 3 minutes in, boss is dead, 775 plasteel. Yes please.

crafted myself a new boomstick from a blue

now I just gotta find Transfer Peril IV and it can't get much better than that

[feral verge]

@near wyvern welcome godstrike sibling

[near wyvern]

I guess I became a voidstrike main now

[feral verge]

Hadron finally got me that today

Wish it was a warpflurry iv

[near wyvern]

I doubt it's that significant difference between IV and III when you have 80% charge rate

[feral verge]

But I cant put that on my godstrike anyway. I'd have to make a new one

Transfer peril III is plenty as is

I'd rather even faster charge speed

I rarely have to quell

[near wyvern]

what is your warp resist?

[near wyvern]

58

this one has 80

[feral verge]

(pic is slightly old)

Yeah

58 warp resist

And I still rarely have to quell

[rocky cedar]

Dagger Purg is pretty fun

Making me enjoy Purg more

[near wyvern]

I always run dagger with all my builds

gotta get those mats

[rocky cedar]

Got a good Stam curio now

[feral verge]

Always force sword here

[rocky cedar]

We fast as fuck

And revive for days

[feral verge]

But I'm interested in duelling swords

[near wyvern]

now that I got the boomstick I can make this one the meme stick, I have warp nexus IV unlocked, so gotta do one more game and slap it on this

[rocky cedar]

Let us know if it's any good

I'm expecting not particularly

[near wyvern]

I highly doubt math wise

[rocky cedar]

But hey you never know

Imagine is Warp Nexus wasn't shit

[near wyvern]

plus there is the bug that AB cannot give you charges from enemies that die on the soulblaze application

[rocky cedar]

Might actually work better on Trauma

Cause massive application radius

[near wyvern]

yeah I tried to craft one but it rolled warp nexus T1

I was so sad

but still assuming you had 30% crit all the time (which you don't) the expected value would be 3% warp charge per kill

so less than psychic communion and doesn't proc from kills made by team mates

[summer prairie]

it does something like 100 dmg to poxwalkers but slowly. I guess it has minor synergy with AB

if it was 4 stacks it would be much better

[still hearth]

Make it 6 stacks

And we have a deal

[rocky cedar]

I'd still prefer a better condition than crit

But I doubt that'll happen

Number tweaks much more likely

[still hearth]

I wish they'd make them more like

Get 'small benefit constantly + big benefit on crit'

[summer prairie]

I guess if you run AB, you can ult to get to 4 stacks after it triggers but eh

[still hearth]

I wish that Fatshark

Would realize that crits are terrible

Unless its a full crit weapon

And make stuff that procs on crit be good

[viral solstice]

what they should do is make the wepaon do something interesting on crit

like if voidstrike had double aoe on crit

then u would actually see its effects

[spice veldt]

increased cleave

different model

sound

do the staffs even do anything different when crits occur visually and audio-wise?

[near wyvern]

there is surge

but to make it work you would need to run warp nexus

which means no transfer peril

[near wyvern]

no

[viral solstice]

i mean ye i know about surge

im obviously talking about baseline function

kind of analogous to double dots from purge

could make surge staff do some cool shit on crit too

[cyan notch]

i think thats just because critting on purg is kinda useless thats why they let it have 2 stacks

the others do decent damage + have crit blessings

[thorny crypt]

Hello

wat is the good surge staff build? new to psyker

[forest coral]

1/3, 1/2, 1/2, 1, 1/3, 3

Adjust to ur own preference

[thorny crypt]

thanks

[vagrant furnace]

Didnt found any solid baseline build for surge, lots of feats with this staff is a matter of personal preferences

[near wyvern]

there are no real "surge" feats, however, given that it's a CC stick and not a damage stick one will benefit from inner tranquility

[thorny crypt]

idk why i played surge in damnation lol

its my first time

got knocked out

[vagrant furnace]

That’s a shame, surge works fine in damnation if you know how to use it and you have good melee skill

[feral verge]

Do purga or voidstrike if you have good blessings

Those have cc and do damage

Not as much as surge cc, but very serviceable

[forest coral]

Surge in damnation just act as anti carapace, elites, flak and control shooters

But you’ll want something that can deal with hordes in melee since surge is horrendous at that

[olive ember]

Meanwhile I use FS 😄

Btw comms link today?

[forest coral]

Comms link?

Fs is still valid option

[olive ember]

Wte it’s called idr XD

Basically info about next update there was a rumor(?) that there would be info dropping today but dunno

Just remember seeing some people say it was today

[idle bay]

Another Nerf for siblings for sure. Fixing another unintended mechanic 🙂

We can still facetank DH...

And our favorite MK V axe is still looks better than other models

With some convenient buff to something in tow.

[thorny crypt]

any build for fire staff please?

[summer prairie]

222112 or 221112

the only reason to run essence harvest over absorption is if you want to run communion and occasionally get toughness from ally/melee kills

[ornate hamlet]

"rebalance" patches are devs pretending they're actually working

they probably hit a random number generators that tweaks values slightly at random and automatically posts it in patch notes

then go back to their yacht party

the other half of the time they create bugs on purpose so that they can patch them and add that to patch notes, as if it's some signifiant accomplishment

[summer prairie]

complete nonsense

[ornate hamlet]

they literally nerfed psyker values across the board by 30% to 50% from beta to launch

[idle bay]

Good night sleep and evenings with families - instead of yacht parties

[ornate hamlet]

then gave psyker like 10% of their original power back and psyker players got all excited like "hey we're not nerfed anymore"

[summer prairie]

Every single nerf has been a mechanic not working as they intended and bug fixing takes a priority

[ornate hamlet]

false

[summer prairie]

true

[ornate hamlet]

originally every stack was 5% not 3% dude

and virtually everything else was nerfed that significantly as well

[idle bay]

Beta nerfs package was mostly pure nerfs not fixes if i recall corectly

[summer prairie]

time to block someone for the first time on discord

[ornate hamlet]

you obviously didn't play beta if you think this is true

[ornate hamlet]

they were all pure nerfs, not fixes

[idle bay]

Something about "disabling specific playstyle that Fatshark did not liked"

[ornate hamlet]

they literally went through nearly every modifier psyker has in their talent tree and abilities and took every single one down 30% to 50% in power

every stack was 5% not 3% originally
and if you remember what the values for pretty much every else used to be, they went through and docked everything else by 30% to 50% as well

including our touchness regen upon gaining a stack, and most everything else in our tree

[olive ember]

Oh yeah no psyker in the CBT at one point was considered "OP" and "boring"

so you can thank the people who complained

[ornate hamlet]

and that's all other than the obvious huge nerf to BB damage

the reason they took such a huge hit was because of the feedback they were receiving from non-psyker players, crying about us seeming to be too strong

[olive ember]

honestly tho psyker now is fine I personally think zealot's the weakest class kek

[idle bay]

I find finalised version of Veteran really boring, nothing fun or special in his kit, just raw power

[olive ember]

oh yeah point and click adventure

but zealot to me is just

replace psykers AOE knockdown with a charge, literally worse with knife than psyker, flamer vs purge staff

[ornate hamlet]

on top of nerfing psyker they nerfed other classes as well, especially zealot but zealot is still strong anyway

zealot used to be ridiculous

they were like 20% faster before

[idle bay]

Good gun multiplied on decent FPS skills and multiplied on his class Kit - it's just regular FPS experience, with some practice you don't need to melee much and dodge melee attacks while aiming

[sly matrix]

Best blessings for Force Sword?

[ornate hamlet]

force sword knockback aoe used to be 5 meters, now it's 3m

[idle bay]

One thing about Veteran that actually need some developers love is Plasma Gun....

[ornate hamlet]

just another example

[olive ember]

deflector + slaughterer, if for some reason you aren't using deflector but are still using force sword then slaughterer + bloodthirsty

[ornate hamlet]

"every single nerf has been a mechanic not working as they intended"
yeah, 5m > 3m totally fixing an unintended mechanic lol

whatever dude

[olive ember]

the psyker changes from CBT to base were bruh AF

the changes after were questionable but well

[ornate hamlet]

on top of slapping the class with 30% to 50% nerf on nearly every aspect of the class, they also never followed through with their promises to release a new subclass every month

instead, we sat around for months waiting for them to just give rebless

[olive ember]

i dont think it was every month tbh it was every quarter but yeah

[ornate hamlet]

ok maybe they said quarter, but still

[olive ember]

But welp I already paid the cash so

[ornate hamlet]

that aint happening obviously

[olive ember]

Atleast they finally got the crafting out

its why some people are sorta hyped(?) since now that crafting out they are expecting actually new content

inb4 devs go back to figuring out how to release the game on xbox

[idle bay]

I am waiting for cash shop revival. To fuel my spending habbit

[olive ember]

Idk what I'm waiting for

I just want something XD

[idle bay]

More meaningful psyker buffs , and drop in plasteel costs for crafting.

[sly matrix]

should I reroll for gunner resistance?

[idle bay]

Also to repaint Morning star Purple

Oh oh! Special Ogryn -only cosmetics - hat with "Good Varlet" logo

[olive ember]

thats a perk I've never seen before

no clue

[idle bay]

And Ogryn only accessory - huge (Ogryn-sized) massive rations backpack with a huge parchment pinned to it "Shoot here please"

[thorny crypt]

any voidstrike build plz?

[olive ember]

Ogryn backpack where its just a picture of a dreg gunner on his back. Gives veteran some coping mechanisms when the damn ogryn walks infront of his shot for the 100th time

Why use voidstrike

use surge

surge is life

surge is love

[thorny crypt]

build?

[idle bay]

Not every player (not just ogryn) have respect for lines of fire.

[olive ember]

Yes but ogryn also takes up like 3x the space XD

[idle bay]

Sometimes team psyker's head eat more lead than team Ogryn ass when i;m playing Vet 🙂

I mean some players need to STAND in front of shooting vet to aim and charge thier BB....

Instead of doing it from cover...

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1079940837674323998/image.png
What I run for surge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1049940190656995418/image.png
What I run for Purge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1049940323301871647/image.png
What I (would) run for voidstrike (?) Probably replace communion with aura tho

[near wyvern]

Ok team. The meme staff may not be such a meme. I mean, godroll void is still better imo (Transfer Peril + Warp Nexus), however, this thing has a very different and interesting playstyle for it.

Basically you want to constantly live around 90-100 peril and shoot a lot of low and mid charged balls, instead of aiming directly through a line of enemies, you want to always aim at a surface behind them (floor, walls, etc.) or directly at an elite.

The thing is, Blazing Spirit will yield 3 stacks of soulblaze, on the projetile AND the explosion, so when you get it right, you get 6 stacks on enemies.

The staff

https://youtu.be/GYCBZMlBjzw

For build I recommend 1 - 1 - 1 - whatever - 3 - 2

[olive ember]

on voidstrike you bring 1?

[near wyvern]

check the staff and build mate

on memestrike

not voidstrike

[olive ember]

oh

breh

might as well run an infernus recon las psyker

[near wyvern]

nah

this has more CC

[olive ember]

XD

[near wyvern]

It's not as satisfying and crunching as a Transfer Peril Warp Flurry but it does surprisingly lot of damage, just gotta dance with death all the time.

[hoary hearth]

What's the best duelling sword?

[thorny crypt]

psychonic guns when? i want kinetic bullets

[hoary hearth]

Is it me or warp nexus is kinda useless on purge staff? since most of the dmg comes from burn stacks and they can't crit

Unless there's some mechanic that I don't know about

[sweet drift]

[cyan notch]

its just for double stacks on crits

and spoiler there arent many good blessings lmao

[safe crystal]

Usually, you'd run ascendent blaze and warp battery with purg, because it generates stacks very quickly. 6 stack AB kills shooters in a cone within 30m of you, getting rid of some of the range problems purg has. Also, essence harvest for toughness generation

[summer prairie]

I talked about it a bit earlier, but there is little reason to run EH over absorption with purg unless you think it's better in clutch situations due to you getting more toughness from BBing

whenever you are actually using purg, absorption is way more toughness and way faster

[hoary hearth]

Do you charge you secondary all they way with purge or spam it like surge?

[summer prairie]

if you have time you should full charge

[safe crystal]

It would be a preference thing, imo. I prefer getting a regen over time instead of gaining it immediately, but i can definitely see why someone would run absorption

[hoary hearth]

And how bad is this one? I feel like the only thing it has going for it is base stats + warp nexus

[summer prairie]

EH wastes a lot of the charges anyway, in particular when you ult since the enemies all die nearly simultaneously and you end up getting only one 30% over 5s

while absorption gets you to full

[olive ember]

Ah but you see

EH is funny

and therefore the superior option

[safe crystal]

This is already a good staff, you'd just need to roll crit chance on one of the perks. I cant remember off the top of my head the soul blaze damage on carapace, i think it was very low even with max stacks? Might want to check in the psykhanium.

[olive ember]

also in all seriousness EH is better for BB'ing

and I find I BB more than I think I will so yeah

[hoary hearth]

yep, already checked

[digital narwhal]

If you had to pick between a Force Sword and a Chainsword to pair with the Trauma Staff, which would it be?

[olive ember]

Chainsword

imagine using a veteran weapon

[river sand]

dagger

[olive ember]

you can basically use anything on psyker

[summer prairie]

at least chainsword isn't painful to use

[olive ember]

chainsword is also just a worst FS kekw

[digital narwhal]

I mean, true, but I've had a lot of practice with both.
But I never used Trauma much, so dunno which would pair best.

[olive ember]

Rly up to you

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, Chainsword is straight up better in terms of using it as a melee weapon.
Force Sword does have a better special though, ye

[olive ember]

I run FS on everything even when its not optimal cuz its what I'm best with

[sweet drift]

chainsword is pretty good for cleave and stagger, but with a trauma staff you may as well get the single target damage of the force sword

[digital narwhal]

Well considering I play in a lot of pubs, I might run Chainsword in the chance that my team is bad enough at sticking together that I have to get dirty in Poxie melee myself.

[river sand]

srsly ? cainsword special is way better. faster activation and you arent completly locked in the animation and damage starts instantly instead of nothing when you get hit while you are locked in that terrible animation for an eternity

[olive ember]

it really isn't

FS does way more damage, the animation is faster as well iirc

[cyan notch]

chainsword stagger is pretty sketchy

[digital narwhal]

I more so mean damage wise; I figured Trauma's knockdown would be enough time to set up a FS Special

[sweet drift]

Probably wont be in much melee if you have a trauma staff considering how much CC the thing has

[olive ember]

Chainsword special rev up is also alot less obvious. Admittedly I use it alot less but the rev up garbo is annoying af cuz I cant tell when I can actuaully use it

[digital narwhal]

But still, just making sure.
Trauma is no longer a throw weapon anymore, right?

[olive ember]

Main thing is that FS special is basically a hard stun on everything besides a mutant

yeah its pgood now

[digital narwhal]

Good to know.

[olive ember]

its like an in between of surge and purge

its got better horde clear than the surge

but its got better stun than the purge

[digital narwhal]

Also, Rending Shockwave is nice

[olive ember]

its a bit jank in terms of aiming tho and you gotta be careful not to knock enemies behind your teammates

[digital narwhal]

Especially if paired with Chainsword to increase rev damage on Crushers

:)

[olive ember]

If you want

I'd prefer the FS

[leaden thunder]

should call it brittiling shockwave

[digital narwhal]

Well still, I'm running FS with my Trauma rn because I don't have a decent Chainsword yet-

So I can see how it goes

[olive ember]

Oh yeah one extra thing for chainsword is that its heavies are horizontal

[digital narwhal]

Chainsword and Force Sword are the melees I've used most on Psyker-

Ye I know

[olive ember]

which makes its special alot worse in comparison because of that

[fair kayak]

Brutal Momentum Antax V best Psyker weapon

[digital narwhal]

Chainsword is cooler.

[olive ember]

But can it block bullets

[vestal rose]

okay
okay
time to be a heretic
crit doesn't seem that great on purg
like a small chance to do two stacks? fine I guess, but only cause the blessings are mostly pretty garbage
and the 4-5% crit chance perk? give me a +25% damage type instead pls

[olive ember]

damage is useless

unless it affects the dot

its weird cuz the game sucks at explaining anything

[vestal rose]

I haven't tested it directly but I seem to recall people saying it does affect the dot

[leaden thunder]

it applied two stacks of soulbaze

which is often more then double the damage of the dot

becuase dots are exponential

[olive ember]

as long as you don't use the force weapon dmg perk on purge staff kekw

its weird as shit because some things affect dot damage like power and warp charges n shit like that

and other things don't

[vestal rose]

sure, but a 5% increased chance to save a third of a second applying another stack of DoT doesn't seem worth the perk slot

and honestly a max of 20% chance still doesn't seem that great for a blessing
the blessing options just aren't too good

[idle bay]

My eyes deceived me - for moment i saw "new-bulletin" in brighter colour but it was just my blood pressure playing tricks on me 🙂

[vestal rose]

I could be wrong
feel free to tell me how dumb I am

[uneven drift]

You need 2 full charges to get max stacks, DoT's damage growth exponentially, so as sooner you get to max stacks then you'll kill targets faster. With around 20% of crit chance you'll crit enough to make a difference.

[olive ember]

I mean most horde mobs will die in seconds, its mostly used for stacking dots for big damage on anything scarier than a rager

[leaden thunder]

^

both the flamer weapons barely need perks

so that's why a lot of zealot use like

unyielding

on there

[olive ember]

Also yeah blessings wise everything sucks, so warp nexus and terrifying barrage are the go to

[vestal rose]

People bother flaming large dudes with purg?

[leaden thunder]

mixed hoards

[olive ember]

purge can kill a mauler in two full charges iirc

not even

[vestal rose]

mauler's dying anyway

[olive ember]

prob like 1 full charge with decente stats

[vestal rose]

crits or no

[leaden thunder]

you probably should use it on a single lone crusher

but if it's in a big hoard

[ornate hamlet]

i use purg + MK II combat axe, so i can do a lot of damage with either wep
when i don't need to aoe cc+dps, i'm using axe.

[olive ember]

a lot of peopel who run purge also run FS

[ornate hamlet]

axe kills much quicker than purg on most enemies, and purg is dogshit against crushers

[olive ember]

so they use the special to deal with crushers

[vestal rose]

yeah, I use fs with my purg

[olive ember]

technically speaking axe has faster kill times than FS but thats assuming your teammates are incompetent and didn't do any damage to the crusher

FS has better burst

[vestal rose]

I also run kinetic barrage since the warp charge changes
the big fellas have options

[leaden thunder]

afaik the +% damage perks don't apply to dots right?

[ornate hamlet]

it's actually way faster killtime with MK II
people always compare MK V which is honestly way weaker on single target than MK VIII and even moreso compared to MK II.

[summer prairie]

they do

[olive ember]

Oh yeah but most people run antax for the bonkers horde clear

the typical combo is antax + surge or FS + purge

in terms of "metaslave"

but yeah

[ornate hamlet]

i combine purge with MK II combat axe instead, but yeah

[vestal rose]

alright cool
im replacing my T3 warp nexus with run and gun

[olive ember]

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

axe is ramp up dps, which a lot of people forget.

[vestal rose]

its fine run and gun synergises great with my +9 stamina curiOs

[ornate hamlet]

if you have 2 good power blessings on axe, it's ramp up dps and when it's at max stats it is outdpsing any other melee dps by a lot

and outdpsing purg too, by a lot

there's times when you should just purg monstrosity when you can't melee, but if you can melee, use MK VIII or MK II combat axe

ppl sleep on them i swear

the attack speed you get with finesse combined with the extra multiplier finesse gives on weakspot and crits makes a huge difference in total dps using the weapon if you have the right perks and blessings

[leaden thunder]

man

if only it hit heads

[ornate hamlet]

you can with MK VIII

[leaden thunder]

you are 100% right about the rashad being technically better tho

[ornate hamlet]

the thing is, you CAN with MK II also, you just need to know how to make it hit weakspot

[leaden thunder]

it is just fucky

[ornate hamlet]

it's way better, it's like 10% faster than MK VIII and MK VIII is another 12% or so faster than MK V.
it's nearly 25% faster compared to MK V honestly

[olive ember]

The problem as well is that imo single target melee DPS just isn't really a niche that has particular use

[ornate hamlet]

and it has a nice boost to those weakspot and crit damage numbers too

[leaden thunder]

the achyls felt slower then the antax last I used it

[ornate hamlet]

that MK V is missing

[vestal rose]

rashad and achlys are great, purely because they aren't antax

[ornate hamlet]

you get your blessings capped out really quickly using MK II

i love headtaker + decimator

i always start off with 2 quick light attacks then just spam heavy

and you can make it hit weakspot, you just have to get right up against the enemy to make it work

which you're usually doing anyway

[hoary hearth]

What duelling sword is the best? or are they the same?

[ornate hamlet]

they don't compare to axe dps, so i never touch em

[olive ember]

No clue dueling swords are kinda meh imo after they changed move tech

prob check in psyker chat history

[ornate hamlet]

there's literally people answering "what is the best dueling sword" on reddit with "the best dueling sword is Antax MK V combat axe" lol

and yes, dueling swords had their dodge spam nerfed, so....

[fair kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[cyan notch]

where is this 10 + 12% coming from

[leaden thunder]

for the rashad it's from finesse at least partially

idk anything about the achyls

[ornate hamlet]

use them

they're naturally just different speeds, before even factoring in finesse on top of that

[leaden thunder]

I found the achlys to be slower

does it have a finesse stat?

[ornate hamlet]

MK VIII is about the same speed as MK V but with finesse attack speed to make it faster

MK II is just faster before even factoring in finesse

[cyan notch]

are you just saying theyre faster or what

[ornate hamlet]

no try them, you'll see

[cyan notch]

cuz they arent

[ornate hamlet]

lol dude mine is way faster

like, very obviously, you'll notice right away if you try one

[cyan notch]

rashad

[fair kayak]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

nice numbers, what's the source

[cyan notch]

antax

achyls

[fair kayak]

you guys spend way too much time cuddling with your spreadsheets

[ornate hamlet]

dude some people RELY on speadsheet information way more than they should

[cyan notch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2910081612

[fair kayak]

press button -> kill mob

[ornate hamlet]

they don't do their own testing

[leaden thunder]

so after some

[fair kayak]

its all in the gut

we dont need no spreadsheets

[leaden thunder]

very not good personal testing with not well rolled axes

the achlys feels slower then the antax

rashad feels faster

[cyan notch]

sure u can say rashad and achyls have faster attack speed because of finesse but u cant just randomly say trust me bro achlys is 25% faster cuz 10+12=25% and it feels that way

[ornate hamlet]

try one dude

actually fucking try one for yourself lol

you will see, it's very obviously faster by default

[cyan notch]

what makes you think i havent

they all feel the same

[viral solstice]

rashad is the fastest because it uses rashad ™️ inter-dimensional technology to route ur swings

[fair kayak]

honestly after a certain point it doesnt even matter

like

gimme a force sword, ill make it work

gimme an Antax, thats fine

gimme a Rashad, ill use that

if you know wtf you are doing you can use any of these and be just fine

[summer prairie]

@cyan notch if you haven't noticed, that guy doesn't ever know what he is talking about

II and VIII lights are exactly the same speed with the same finesse stat

[ornate hamlet]

even the link you posted shows them as having different swing windows btw

by 10%+

[olive ember]

according to chat history btw its the mk 5 dueling sword because its got heavy slashes instead of pokes or wte

[digital narwhal]

One thing I love about Trauma Staff.
Even the shockwave for knockback can trigger Kinetic Flayer.

[tame thistle]

About the "relying on spreadsheets" part...
I... Honestly see no issue with the spreadsheets...?
Some people prefer to be in the thick of action all the time, that is good.
Others find pleasure in optimising every bit of stat via spreadsheets and theorycrafting, that is good as well.
The point of a game is having fun, nobody has the right to tell another how they should enjoy a game...

[olive ember]

I love spreadsheets

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Br_2A3n3YDO1v0Kld27KCLvwRYKJqjliyhntoT2NTp4/edit#gid=1874401893

how else am I supposed to figure out what anything does in games

[ornate hamlet]

meat grinder is pretty helpful honestly

speadsheets are great, especially if it's reliably datamined, but you should still always test things for yourself

[olive ember]

I mean most things are tested one way or another

I forgot who the testing squad was but yeah

[tame thistle]

There definitely are other ways. But "spreadsheet sharing and community work should not be shunned" is what I am saying.

[ornate hamlet]

a lot of times things look really great on paper, but are actually trash in practical use - like because of travel time of projectiles, they end up missing a lot instead of connecting even though the DPS looked great on paper, stuff like that

(generally speaking)

[olive ember]

in my experience most things are tested tbh, psyker chat is where all the gremlins are

[bleak tulip]

just animation cancel and it is pretty good dps

[olive ember]

just that some people look at the datamined stuff and then other people waste an hour of their time testing it

in the meat grinder

and yeah

[ornate hamlet]

zealot and psyker players are usually way better players than ogryn and vet

[bleak tulip]

thanks for stroking my ego but that just seems like conjecture lets be real

[vagrant furnace]

Spreadsheets are fine as long as they are accurate, because nowadays any mf can do spreadsheet and most of the time they wont even tell you how they did the maths nor the testing environnement

[cyan notch]

lmao

[quasi pier]

So what does "secondary action burning intensity" mean?

[still hearth]

How fast you apply soulblaze dots

Or the damage of the beaam

[summer prairie]

I think it's basically attack speed for the non-dot damage of the secondary

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-emote-gif-24165461

[still hearth]

One of those

[summer prairie]

if you are talking about the purg damage stat property

[olive ember]

To be fair not counting the fat af nerf from CBT to Launch every nerf besides FS change is technically speaking a "bugfix"

[ornate hamlet]

our stacks were 5% each and nerfed to 3%,
our FS knockback was 5m then nerfed to 3m

and MOST of our tree was also nerfed from 30% to 50% range

and this guy :
"every single nerf has been a mechanic not working as intended and fixed"

ok buddy

you believe whatever you want, it's fine

he blocked me earlier because i replied "false" to him earlier

[summer prairie]

I blocked you due to your obnoxious tirade regarding game development

[ornate hamlet]

now he's sitting here backseat talkin shit lol

[bleak tulip]

I mean most of the nerfs were just that, fixes

also you seem to have forgotten about the buffs from earlier this month

[cyan notch]

the extra crit/ws on rashad and achlys doesnt seem to do that much more either

[bleak tulip]

take your persecution paranoia somewhere else

you can be salty about the class not getting enough love thats fine

[quasi pier]

So something like .33 means the secondary is doing the secondary action damage number every .33 seconds or something like that?

[ornate hamlet]

that's not the point lol

i was talking about the difference between beta and release

when he said

which is just completely untrue

[summer prairie]

@quasi pier I'm not entirely sure, but something like that

but it's not talking about the dot damage

[bleak tulip]

are you really that hung up on them using "every single" presumable months ago when it may have not been literally "every single"

man I wanna know if I have a shit tier take you screenshotted in your folder too

[olive ember]

The tldr of all this is that damage is a dump stat for purge staff since 90% of the damage comes from dot

you want max burn and max cloud radius, similar to flamer

[cyan notch]

flame damage is pretty substantial but it doesnt vary much from min to max thats why its a dump

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i was going to correct you on the 90% figure, it actually depends on if you're using left mouse or charging up

purg left mouse does some decent initial hit damage on most enemies

on top of applying the dots

[cyan notch]

[bleak tulip]

does warp nexus on purg actually do the thing?

[ornate hamlet]

kids don't know how to screenshot so they just take picture with their phone

[bleak tulip]

because I have it on mine for the chance of it doing the good

[cyan notch]

it does do the thing

[bleak tulip]

nice

[quasi pier]

I'm on discord on my phone

[ornate hamlet]

if you're asking which is better, the one on the right is significantly better

[quasi pier]

Because of the blessing?

Because the burn stat numbers are exactly the same despite % difference on the bar

[cyan notch]

theyre kinda the same its up to you

[still hearth]

Ye, perk and blessings

[bleak tulip]

perks are better (I would change out sprint eff tho), traits are better

[ornate hamlet]

it has a 4 diamond perk, the other staff doesn't.
it also has warp nexus, the other doesn't.

stat wise, they're both good on base stats

[still hearth]

But it's not big either way

[cyan notch]

i wouldnt spend 2.7k melkbucks on a sidegrade

[olive ember]

@quasi pier I'd actually go for the one on the left

[still hearth]

[viral solstice]

invest it in a melk index fund

[olive ember]

you can replaced focused channeling with nexus

[still hearth]

No not the left ew

[bleak tulip]

spend them on tier 4 blessings and then transfer em

[olive ember]

well the one on the right hes got focused channeling locked

[cyan notch]

thats what im doing

[still hearth]

Melkies too expensive

[olive ember]

which is a bigger ew kekw

[feral verge]

@bleak tulip based voidstrike enjoyer

[olive ember]

visual disgust

[still hearth]

Terrifying is meh though

[olive ember]

voidstrike

[ornate hamlet]

yeah just keep usin the one on the right brother

[still hearth]

[bleak tulip]

I mean shit, the first thing I spent melkies on in a while was tier 4 lacerate on psyker just to have it

[olive ember]

focused channeling is kinda garbo 90% of the time

and by kinda garbo

I mean completely useless

[still hearth]

Sure

[quasi pier]

Yea focused channeling is meh, sometimes gets you there, but others you just need to bail anyways if you're going to get hit

[still hearth]

But so is Terrifying

[cyan notch]

theres like 5 blessings

theres not much to choose from

[still hearth]

Purge has 4 that are T4 iirc

[quasi pier]

Am I the only one that loves sprint efficiency then

[olive ember]

...

[still hearth]

And only one is great

[olive ember]

sprint efficiency is kinda

[still hearth]

Memes and dreams

[olive ember]

maybe on trauma? heard you can actually use its alt fire while sprinting (using run n gun)

XD

[still hearth]

Psyker can do the sick hover tech

[bleak tulip]

why are you sprinting with your staff out tho?

[still hearth]

Like an awful hoverboard

[bleak tulip]

basically every melee is faster

[cyan notch]

quell

[olive ember]

psykers take 25% increased damage while sprinting

why sprint in general

[cyan notch]

sometimes i do that

[quasi pier]

I have it on my axe as well lol

[bleak tulip]

idk I just quell and dodge on FS or staff, either way no sprinting

[quasi pier]

And all 3 curios

[bleak tulip]

with FS dodge dancing you can move at basically normal running speed anyway while quelling so w/e

[cyan notch]

well maybe they dont have fs

[bleak tulip]

nah I was responding to you tbh

[cyan notch]

well maybe i dont have fs

[still hearth]

Unless you're dodging backwards

[bleak tulip]

you should

[still hearth]

How are you moving that fast

Ahh

I do enjoy seeing where I'm going

[cyan notch]

i been using tac axe 7 alot on my alts

fs kinda shit at low levels

[bleak tulip]

I mean you can just glance between dodges if you have to

[still hearth]

Psyker is the most ADHD class

Fire, dodge, quell, BB, quell, dodge, slide, dodge slide, look behind, spin aroune, 360 no scope

[cyan notch]

we do a little micromanaging

its a little tiring sometimes

[sly matrix]

what's this symbol?

[bleak tulip]

I feel like playing purg is plenty relaxing

half the time you spend staring at your hand

[cyan notch]

staff quell dodge is pretty ass too u get like 2 dodges before it turns to shit

[feral verge]

John darktide house crest

[cyan notch]

sometimes i dont wanna spam slide just hold sprint and let it quell

[bleak tulip]

yeah thats why I generally switch to FS when I have to quell longer

I mean im not here to tell you what to do friend

[cyan notch]

i didnt think you were

just sayin my thought process

[near wyvern]

What have I missed, what is this John Darkride thingy?

[cyan notch]

john darktide

he is the john of darktides

[feral verge]

Main character of darktide

Y'know. Like John halo from halo: combat evolved

[cyan notch]

dude i love john halo he was so great in halo

[feral verge]

Yeah when he John halo'd all over the place on those guys

Then you have John dark souls, too

[long orchid]

Pfft John halo? He's nothing compared to his cousin John Darktide

[cyan notch]

john darksoul better imo

[olive ember]

Elden ring dlc coming

[near wyvern]

Shit, still haven't finished my first run

Darkride has eaten all my time

Shit game

[cyan notch]

is there even an eta

[feral verge]

No

[olive ember]

If ya need help I got my mage build around

Certified to have been carried by let me solo her

[forest coral]

John darksoul said it’s dark time and kicked out the lord of the first flame or something

[frail berry]

Solid blessings for MG XII infantry lasgun?

[forest coral]

Flak, maniac

[olive ember]

Blessings not perk