psyker-class

[olive ember]

You see my panick weapon is peril blocking kekw

[echo turtle]

Thats why the axe is so good with surge

[long orchid]

Getting good with melee is crtical for surge

[echo turtle]

you can kill your way out of anything

exactly

[long orchid]

once you do, you really feel like the jack of all trades

[echo turtle]

I had a game with surge and axe, I led the team in chaff kills

450, 350 of that was axe melee kills

[molten sparrow]

I have no idea what stat can be a dump stat, so is this a good set of stats please?

[olive ember]

I mean I’d like to say I’m good with melee

Just that I use FS

[echo turtle]

that staff is great

[spice veldt]

i'd consider dmg, crit, and charge rate altogether to be dump stats on surge

[molten sparrow]

Cool

[echo turtle]

Have you tried an atax?

[olive ember]

Crit iirc is actually one of the more important stats

[echo turtle]

crit and qull

[olive ember]

Because surge staff has innately high crit rate

[echo turtle]

you can get around 50% all said and done

so reroll maniac to crit chance and ur pretty golden

[olive ember]

The dump stats are damage and charge rate iirc for surge

[echo turtle]

Yes

[molten sparrow]

Thanks

[olive ember]

So yeah your stats are p good

[echo turtle]

better than my staff lol

FS imo is not ideal at all paired with surge

[olive ember]

Oh no it isn’t

[spice veldt]

i think it's fine; cleaves 10 poxwalkers at max slaughterer stacks with a minimum of 70-ish damage

[olive ember]

I just like using it

[echo turtle]

cuz, you can stunlock and BB. what you struggle to deal with with surge is also what FS struggles with

ah

word

[olive ember]

And it’s the weapon I perform best with

[spice veldt]

although that's the 2nd heavy

[olive ember]

Used it since CBT so yeah

[spice veldt]

lights are dog shit

[echo turtle]

Well, if you ever feel like mixing it up

antax pairs amazingly and with KD you are a monster

[olive ember]

I’m considering swapping over to purge staff tbh

Had two games with zealots and neither of em brought a flamer

Actually hard tilted

[leaden thunder]

based tho

fuck the flamer

[olive ember]

One of the damn zealots ran thunder hammer + revolver

[leaden thunder]

based as hel

[echo turtle]

get builds going for both

I swap around

[olive ember]

Troll as hell lmao

[leaden thunder]

Thammer is fine

[olive ember]

I do I just have to get my purge up to gold

[leaden thunder]

revolver is kinda crap

[echo turtle]

I have a preset lighting,flame and gun build all locked and lodes

[leaden thunder]

but w/e

[olive ember]

Thammer WITH the revolver tho?

[rigid sky]

Purgatus = get all of the praise lines

[echo turtle]

eh all purges are good lol

[olive ember]

Zero horde killing

All elite killing lmao

[leaden thunder]

Thammer can control the hoard

[echo turtle]

Can I shill my fire build at you?

[olive ember]

It can but holy shit I’d rather they just kill it lmao

[leaden thunder]

yeah

[olive ember]

Sure

[echo turtle]

TH is the shit

[olive ember]

I mean I have a purge build set up

[echo turtle]

my fav weapon for zealot

[olive ember]

Just need to yeah

Actually use it

[echo turtle]

this is the build I would us kinetic shield on, if I stacked toughness more

but this is how I typically run it. I think thats how most people are runninf fire staff at T5

[hollow current]

Another day, another melk shop with no staves or force swords.

[echo turtle]

essence harvest though, its where its at

Gonna have to grind and gamble friend

[olive ember]

Yeah that’s literally my build kek

[hollow current]

😩 🔫

[olive ember]

I desperately want to run a bolter zealot but idk what weapon I’d pair with it

Probably hsword honestly

[leaden thunder]

Heavy sword

[olive ember]

Idk why I love the FS but god damn I hate the eviscerator

[leaden thunder]

you using the movset of it?

[olive ember]

I forget but I psure I was using it correctly

Prob just gonna stick with a thammer + flamer tbh

[echo turtle]

yeah thats tight. FS works better in that build

[olive ember]

👌

[echo turtle]

I’m hoping I can get a good mega autocrit sword at some point. It seems like it would be good

[leaden thunder]

I want a soul blaze on crit one with it

just seems fun

even if not good

[echo turtle]

its easy to apply soulblze already

it’s definitely not good

not worth giving up 75% extra power for. But some people get hard dicks for turning enemies blue

[forest coral]

Why not use shipping tool

[echo turtle]

shipping tool?

[forest coral]

*snipping

[echo turtle]

for screenshots?

[forest coral]

Yeh

[echo turtle]

I was playing in my basement gym

[forest coral]

wait what

[forest coral]

…

[echo turtle]

this is how I usually play

[forest coral]

That’s slightly cursed but go on for the gains haha

Most unique set up I’ve seen in a while

[echo turtle]

bahaha

[olive ember]

Amazing

So do you just like

[twilit comet]

Does anyone know how warp nexus is supposed to work? Wiki descriptions says: "Gain 2-5% and 8-20% Critical Chance based on current level of peril."

[olive ember]

Most sane psyker setup

[echo turtle]

My beloved says it’s great

[echo turtle]

haha, I’m gonna get shredded playing the game

[forest coral]

So if ur clutching

Do u like just pedal extremely hard

[echo turtle]

yes

[twilit comet]

Oh wait, I get it. Tier 1 is 2-8% and Tier 4 is 5-20%

[echo turtle]

obviously

[forest coral]

Ah yes, simulating psyker’s anxiety moment

Very immersive

[echo turtle]

anxiety simulator

[smoky fractal]

do you pedal as much as you run in game lol

[echo turtle]

I have pedals connecting to my forward input

the character only moves if I pedal

[smoky fractal]

oh damn

[echo turtle]

lol jk

[smoky fractal]

-_-

[restive slate]

To play as immersive Psyker, attach an explosive to your head when you blow up

[smoky fractal]

lmao

[olive ember]

They gotta implement a “run away with cargo” mission

Where all you do is run away

Endless hordes one player Carries the rest escorts only objective is to get to the end

[restive slate]

Something akin to the l4d2 bridge mission?

[olive ember]

10/10 and then a chaos space marine bursts through a wall and then you gotta run away from them as well

[spice veldt]

i do think the game is lacking in gauntlets

more situations where you need to run through a section

[olive ember]

They could have like trash mob npcs and tanks helping you delay the space marine and inevitably getting destroyed

Since we are inquisition members at 30

So you get to protect important cargo while everyone else is just a sacrifice for once

[restive slate]

Should have missions only accessible to lvl 30

And really dangerous mission types at heresy and damnation

Should make things fun

[olive ember]

I mean there’s a specific achievement for beating a “flash mission” on damnation

[restive slate]

What's a flash mission again?

[olive ember]

I’d really hope that’s something cool if there’s a specific achievement for beating that mission type

No clue

I’d assume some special mission type

[restive slate]

More Investigation missions...

[dim cradle]

ideal blessings for trauma staff?

[olive ember]

Trauma

No clue tho in all seriousness

[restive slate]

Rending Shockwave is nice

[rocky cedar]

So is warp flurry

Also funnily enough run and gun lets you use the alt fire while sprinting

[olive ember]

Does transfer peril even work on the trauma btw

[rocky cedar]

Not actually helpful but funky that you can

[rocky cedar]

Only primary or KF procs

[olive ember]

Alright so useless

[forest coral]

Imagine if it worked for everything u hit in a mob

Would be so busted

[lofty sable]

what melee you guys digging on the psyker these days?

[spice veldt]

if you were a god gamer, I guess you could headshot an enemy with LMB to set yourself below 100% peril and continuously activate your FS special

[olive ember]

That’s how people use voidstrike

[twilit flicker]

did some practice fighting bosses, doing better with the dueling sword than the knife

[olive ember]

Range probably

[forest coral]

Yes, that but for trauma

[olive ember]

Makes dodging attacks easier

[forest coral]

Think bout it.

everything u nuke in aoe, no more peril and rinse repeat

[restive slate]

They should turn the aoe into a sphere so that Trauma can hit enemy weakspots in the center

[forest coral]

Duelling swords also come with hidden passive of making monsties rage quit

[twilit flicker]

hahaha, he had enough of it and outta there

[restive slate]

I like the part where the Duelling sword went it's Duelling time and duelled the plogryn out of real space

[forest coral]

Knife does way more damage to monsters but duelling swords mobility and range also make it super comfy to fight them

[twilit flicker]

against an ogryn you can back dodge and return with a heavy attack

with a knife you have to stay close

[forest coral]

Knife is like side dodge and then push block cancel chop spam on head

You nuke them way faster but ye, gotta stick closer

Force sword vs monsties kinda plays like a weird combo of both

[smoky fractal]

i feel like knife is meme on every class even zealot

all zoom

[restive slate]

It's that move tech, gotta go fast

[forest coral]

All zoom, bullies all specials except carapace, wrecks bosses

Is slower than ur grandma in clearing hordes

[smoky fractal]

cause if im running knife on my zealot im memeing my brains out

[spice veldt]

you can kinda go fast on the force sword if you hold the heavy and run

hold the heavy during a slide to avoid the initial slowdown and you'll sprint faster than normal

[forest coral]

Also side dodge till destination or off a ledge

Like me

[spice veldt]

weakling who needs railings to be safe

[forest coral]

[spice veldt]

I haven't dodged off an edge in 10 hours

[long wharf]

in the grim darkness of the 41st millenium, there is no OSHA

[smoky fractal]

how do yall feel about this

[forest coral]

That mobility is sad so ur gonna need to really learn to anim cancel and side dodge

[spice veldt]

40 mob but it has flak and high dmg rolls so it's prob fine

[forest coral]

But otherwise it’s stronk sword

[restive slate]

I had a friend slide under a railing and fell off

[smoky fractal]

yeah it feels slow af

[spice veldt]

weakling who isn't safe even with railings

[smoky fractal]

this is my other one but i havent touched it

[spice veldt]

what are these perks

holy shit

[twilit flicker]

tried spamming the block attack against the ogryn, it IS way more effective

[smoky fractal]

yeah ive been getting lucky lately

what blessings/perks should i switch out on that

or its kinda bricked

[spice veldt]

prob fine with slaughterer, but I'd ideally have exorcist/deflector/bloodthirsty on the other blesding

damage is a bit low, not sure if you'll miss any breakpoints

[smoky fractal]

ill probably surrender blazing and try another i few other 360+ i can roll to orange to try and get some t4s

[spice veldt]

the only t4s I've gotten from consecration are bloodthirsty and riposte over 500 hours

though there are some prepatch hours to count

[smoky fractal]

like this one fingers crossed

[spice veldt]

I hope that it gets bricked so that you shall not feel joy

[crystal jolt]

do people like crit chance or crit damage on purge?

[echo turtle]

chance

[smoky fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/kobe-bryant-u-mad-you-mad-gif-4925293

[echo turtle]

crits give flame stacks, which is where much of the damage comes from

[spice veldt]

I am at zen

[restive slate]

gets T4 Deflector

[spice veldt]

most peaceful person after getting 60+ warp res force swords

[clever lynx]

Hi. What perks should I aim for with Voidstrike Staff?

[spice veldt]

oh well I'm actually fine with that cuz I think deflector is mid

[restive slate]

Popular general choices are flak and maniac

[restive slate]

I am considering an alternative blessing force sword to play around with

[spice veldt]

besides deflector?

[restive slate]

Yup

[spice veldt]

I say bloodthirsty, exorcist, or uncanny strike (esp when paired with Purg)

[restive slate]

I wonder if the damage increase with peril has any effect

[spice veldt]

the thresholds for unstable Power are supposedly borked

it actually only stacks 4 times and gives you the last 2 stacks at 97%

[restive slate]

That is kinda borked

[spice veldt]

yup

another blessing that's been fatsharked

[restive slate]

Uncanny strike seems fun, does it apply Rending to player or enemy?

[spice veldt]

player, self buff

it applies rending to all active damage as long as you're holding the force sword

including Soulblaze ticks on crushers

[restive slate]

Fun

[spice veldt]

I don't like it because force sword doesn't have the stagger to take advantage, and it really only works on lights

or against carapace for heavies

but it is there and rending isn't totally useless

if you want to roleplay a zealot by burning through crushers

[restive slate]

I see, I've got a shovel with Uncanny strike on Vet and I was surprised how I could hurt Crushers

[spice veldt]

iz pretty good

[restive slate]

Would be fun to try off meta builds

[spice veldt]

exorcist for quietude or to just quell

bloodthirsty isn't off meta for force sword, but crits are cool and good

[restive slate]

I've got an exorcist fs, can give it a try

[spice veldt]

as for the other blessings that I can't recall off the top of my head, I don't recall them being particularly meaningful or impactful to matter, even for off meta

[leaden thunder]

I was wanting to try this

an uncanny + decimator/skullcrusher shovel

[restive slate]

Uncanny+Skullcrusher is mine

[leaden thunder]

is it decent?

[smoky fractal]

ive been wanting the +impact and +damage on stagger

[leaden thunder]

you don't want the +impact

skullcrusher is the damage on stagger

shovel staggers a lot on the heavies so it's better to just get more damage

[smoky fractal]

i know, im just messing around with off meta things

like im looking for inspiring barrage and cavalcade on bolter

[leaden thunder]

inspiring is

[smoky fractal]

but i already a have pinning + rending

[leaden thunder]

very much not good

[smoky fractal]

so like do i need another of the same roll

[leaden thunder]

since it just increases coherency regen

[smoky fractal]

we were all running unoptimized gear in damnation cause of incomplete crafting and we were doing just fine

and its fun to experiment

[twilit flicker]

what do you guys think of the chainsword? I rarely see it

[smoky fractal]

its.. okay

its best roll gimps rev so

i dont like it because of that

[leaden thunder]

Dstrike?

[smoky fractal]

shred + dstrike

[leaden thunder]

Dstrike got mega nerfed

for no reason

[smoky fractal]

lmao

i mean i didnt really use it before

if i had that itch id just run evis

cause your rev just passing through is like... whats the point

[leaden thunder]

it's not as much of an issue becuase it only ignores hit mass on the actual crit itself now

[smoky fractal]

so it catches now?

if thats the case i'll try it again

[leaden thunder]

unless it crits on the rev

[smoky fractal]

oh then its still meh

[leaden thunder]

just take savage sweeps with it

[smoky fractal]

i switched to that but at that point its just a smaller evis

but its still a good choice if youre not a zealot

i just really dislike not being able to use dstrike and rev

[cyan notch]

except pushattack sucks major balls and special stagger is inconsistent

[leaden thunder]

I mean

a lot of weapons push attacks suck

[smoky fractal]

i usually push into heavy anyway

[cyan notch]

a lot of em are decent

[smoky fractal]

i guess a good non zealot roll would be rampage and savage

[spice veldt]

knife is the only one (for Psyker) that stands out

[smoky fractal]

it does good on single targets

[echo turtle]

I’m gonna try out stacking gunner and sniper resistance on all my curios to get 80-90% DR on them with the help of kinetic shield

[smoky fractal]

lul

[echo turtle]

I have died twice today in clutch scenerios to a sniper clipping me

[smoky fractal]

feels bad man

the worst is getting pre fired when turning a corner

[echo turtle]

this one A bombers nade had me slowed

a sniper juuuuuust had an angle on me

[smoky fractal]

omfg bombers in this game are all fucking tom brady

perfect spirals 100 yards

[echo turtle]

I dropped like 4 reapers, gunners, a couple snipers already, 20 shooters to die like that

[spice veldt]

I swear they ninja buffed bombers because I don't recall them throwing grenades so often before

[echo turtle]

they drop the nades right into your pocket

[cyan notch]

seems the same to me

[echo turtle]

so yeah, I’m gonna fuck with a 90% DR skew

see how that goes

[cyan notch]

usually if theres nade spam its cuz theres 2 of em

[spice veldt]

even one of them can lock down a door or corridor

will straight up pop a nade before the last fire wears out

[smoky fractal]

the spam is fine they just always manage to get it at your feet

every.single.time

[spice veldt]

and I absolutely hate how the nade explosion itself slows you down

doesn't even do damage

just to insult you

[smoky fractal]

and bomber resist is a joke

cause fire is overtuned

but if enemies touch fire, walk through it like an entertainer walking on coals

[cyan notch]

its like 15 damage per tick or something

on bad guys

[smoky fractal]

lul

[echo turtle]

if bomber resist also made you resist losing all your toughness

and it worked on flamers

yeah

I would fuck with that

[smoky fractal]

same, id love to just smack them in their smug faces

with their fire bs

[leaden thunder]

if bomber resist did anything to the dangerous parts of bombers

[viral solstice]

yeah... the EMOTIONAL damage

[limber silo]

Is warp flurry still bugged and useless?

[echo turtle]

So, just did another T5. I was very glad to switch back to stacking sniper DR. I took a hit that would have dropped me otherwise.

all round I had my gaurd broken maybe 4 or 5 times, but it didn’t result in a followup that hurt me.

at one point I back dodged into a swarm that I wasn’t aware of, which downed me. if I had kinetic deflection I may have made it out, but it’s iffy

currently running 55% sniper and gunner DR. Kinetic shield pushes that up to 65-88%
mixed health and toughness curios

[viral solstice]

i run no dr of any kind and will never die*

*except when i die, but thats lag, bugs or natural causes (suicide)

i will never take responsibility

[echo turtle]

snipers hve been my bane lately

[forest coral]

when snipers say its sniping time and snipe their shot all over u

[pine relic]

Power of the 60% corruption resistance

[smoky fractal]

That’s why I stack general corruption on my zealot

[olive ember]

I stack max hp instead

Helps against corruption, but also useful the 90% time you aren’t grabbing grims

[smoky fractal]

I do x3 toughness, on zealot

Cause we can facetank everything 🙂

[cold geode]

so what perks are best for void strike?

[olive ember]

Guard broken? Sounds like a kinetic shield user issue

[spice veldt]

weapon swap out of guardbreaks

[cold geode]

just got this thing from the emprah

[spice veldt]

transfer peril + warp flurry is considered to be the best

[olive ember]

Works on trauma and voidstrike. Not sure on purge. On surge it works unless you have warp nexus as well, at which point it breaks again. Basically, run nexus and terrifying barrage on surge and purge. Flurry on voidstrike and trauma

[feral verge]

Hipfire bad

[smoky fractal]

I still don’t have a good voidstrike

Might as well farm

I dunno hip fire on purge seems alright

[feral verge]

@cold geode this is my godstrike

[olive ember]

I still don’t have a good flamer and thammer

But that requires me to play zealot

[feral verge]

It's an auto cannon

I rarely have to quell peril

[cold geode]

thanks 😄

[olive ember]

Probably wanna reroll the perks tho

That t2 perk could prob be replaced with t4 of same type if you really want to min max

[cold geode]

yea, got 25 flak on it now, unless something is better

[olive ember]

Dunno tbh

[feral verge]

Not bad

That will def tide you over until you can farm for better

[cold geode]

honestly, its the best emperahs gift ive ever gotten on my psyker

[olive ember]

Tide? Get it? Darktide?

[feral verge]

the name's darktide. john darktide

[smoky fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-john-wick2-john-wick-gifs-keanu-reeves-locked-and-loaded-gif-14187186

Can’t wait for the 4 movie

Gat gat gat

Pew pew

BOOOOM

[cyan notch]

nice embed is the the part where we point and laugh guys

[spice veldt]

tsk tsk tsk

[feral verge]

this is my god purga

i wil get rid of run n gun when they fix warp flurry on purga

[viral solstice]

why get rid of run n gun

dont u want to gun while running

think about it

imagine how much of ur time u spend running

that could also be GUNNING time

efficient time management

[feral verge]

i forgot to mention this my walk only build

i only walk

so waste of perk

[viral solstice]

its a sacrifice

but somebody has to do it

they should have walk and sword on melee weapons

[feral verge]

yeah i always felt the game was in deep need of that

[viral solstice]

why should gun get all the fun

[olive ember]

Psyker takes 25% more damage while sprinting

[viral solstice]

and on the shotgun

[olive ember]

Facts don’t care about your feelings

[viral solstice]

they should have "and relax"

so u can kickback and relax

as an ogryn

[forest coral]

yes

axe and relax

https://tenor.com/view/girl-axe-throwing-axe-throw-fail-bounce-gif-14133456

[safe crystal]

I thought nothing vets can do would surprise me, but here we go again

[forest coral]

[olive ember]

Mm the vet moment

[lofty sable]

but is it dead?

[spice veldt]

salute the vet for his sacrifice

how dare you disrespect him

[viral solstice]

da troop's

[forest coral]

Da troop

[viral solstice]

respect dis

[safe crystal]

I did, i let him blow up the second one that came through the door a few seconds later as well

[viral solstice]

hell yea

[forest coral]

[viral solstice]

[safe crystal]

He was the explosions specialist

[viral solstice]

hes havin a good time

[crystal jolt]

loose cannon

[ornate hamlet]

Adeptus Astartes she is not

[pine relic]

Two guys quit at the end of the game, they were probably mad at our zealot went to fix the machine and used the healing on himself.

But that's still 310 plasteel

[viral solstice]

im just endlessly farming voidstrike staves

ive lost sight of why i started

its just what i do

im not even looking at the ones i make

i know they are sadness

in the end what else can u do

u know what is unironically annoyin tho

melk offering no staves for a week

that shit is annoyin

[safe crystal]

What hunting a surge blessing does to someone

[viral solstice]

more staff than crab at this point

[cyan notch]

thats why i made 5 psykers

[viral solstice]

they should just add 3 variants of each staff

that are the same

pad the loot poolk out

[solar cloak]

its over siblings

Penance over

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[undone elm]

ok i really really hate the flame staff. its just a dollerstore brand flamer

dps is just bad

i swear to you. a gun ment to simply stun foes is a bad idea. and its bloody warp fire why would it just tickle foes anyway

hell its more fun to play other classes because the initial charge is not the final cost for peril its an end spike that makes it kinda a joke to play

i get that to some extent for balance but man the staffs all feel like a hit or miss

[shy fiber]

😳

[undone elm]

the lihgting staff does well when it wants to. it will normally only spike to like 2 or 3 people max. then suddenly hit like 6 people

[shy fiber]

FUck

Melk bouta make me a trauma staff main

[spice veldt]

trauma is my love

[echo turtle]

there’s just ine massive issue with that staff

It’s laking the most important blessing

[undone elm]

the psyker really needs some work and extra love from the devs rn

[echo turtle]

the blessing that turns it into a surge or purge staff

[spice veldt]

a ranged DPS staff would fix a lot of psykers problems

[echo turtle]

most powerful trauma staff blessing available

[undone elm]

honestly i could see that. but i just dont think its just me that has an issue with staves

[spice veldt]

yeah, all fuckin staffs are CC

[shy fiber]

I want the rending blessing

[spice veldt]

for some ungodly reason

[undone elm]

the lighting staff is hella dope but its just super unreliable for the wrong reasons

[echo turtle]

There are ranged DPS staves

They use ammo tho

[undone elm]

the psyker should be the highest or 2md highest dps out of the classes

its not that i main them either

im a preacher main

but like come on. they are litrally glass cannon mages

[spice veldt]

I don't think that Psyker should necessarily be at the top for dps

[echo turtle]

they arent glass cannos

[spice veldt]

but we should have an option comparable to guns

[echo turtle]

They are more durable than vets in CC

[spice veldt]

our passive defenses are ass because of our shit base HP toughness

but our stamina is amazng

[undone elm]

look if they constantly are close to going self nuke just to melt hoards i consider that glass cannon lmao

[spice veldt]

and our Toughness feats are pretty unmatched

[echo turtle]

They aren’t? outside of malice anyways

[undone elm]

the issue is its like im playing a high crit rogue class but with no dps and all support

[echo turtle]

Then you’re playing the class wrong my friend

[undone elm]

idk man the weapons dont have any real weight save for the power sword

[spice veldt]

people sort of neglect Psyker's toughness feats and just look at his base HP/Toughness and write it off

[undone elm]

well its not that im saying they are weak

[spice veldt]

of course, Psyker has no equivalent to confident strike in their class melee

[undone elm]

they just dont have the same skill sets as a more frint line type

[spice veldt]

our build diversity is severely lacking yeah

[undone elm]

honestly they feel left behind currently

[spice veldt]

lacking class melees

duelling swords are pure mobility

[echo turtle]

Its a hard class to learn

[spice veldt]

force swords are pure RNG to get a good one

[echo turtle]

I frontline and top most of my games for damage kills etc

so, it’s doable

but you have to realise you are t a glass cannon CC

and not play like that

[undone elm]

what bugs me the most is trying to use the lighting staff to its fullest

it really does fight the player weirdly like its bugged

[echo turtle]

using it to its fullest means not using it half the time

[spice veldt]

I consider the lightning staff to be a high skill floor low ceiling weapon

[echo turtle]

it’s a tool that is specifically good in certain situations

[spice veldt]

easy to use, but not much depth to it

[undone elm]

what??

[echo turtle]

you should be bursting and meleeing more than surging

[undone elm]

no i mean in hoards it should arc to more than two

[echo turtle]

lol

[undone elm]

it can and does "some of the time"

[echo turtle]

if you’re firing it into hordes

you’re doinf it wrong

[undone elm]

wtf do you mean???

[echo turtle]

never fire it into hordes

ever

[undone elm]

its arcing lighting????

its made for multiple targets

[echo turtle]

Oh ok nvm you’re right

what do I know

[undone elm]

lol

see im not sayin it should chain 50 enemys

[echo turtle]

do you have any idea how dogshit the damage is?

[undone elm]

im saying even using it on maxium foes in close number

[echo turtle]

like have you taken it into the meat grinder?

[undone elm]

it will randomly do ass. or do amazing

[echo turtle]

no

it is always ass into hordes

[undone elm]

why?

[lofty sable]

only really does good damage on armor

[undone elm]

oh cool that makes sense actully

but

my issue still remains that it only randomly does what it should

by arcing to more than 2 people

[pine relic]

emm

[undone elm]

godroll /\

i think im just gonna avoid psy for a good wile

[spice veldt]

the random nature of the surge is wonky, but I still think it's pretty good because it can shut down a few elites at a time

[undone elm]

its just not that fun to play currently without stick to like 2 staves

[spice veldt]

but it falters at mixed hordes

yeah

very lacking ranged options

[undone elm]

its almost too much credt to call it good. its fun but on the edge of being ass

[spice veldt]

i respect it for what it is

the primary fire could be better

[undone elm]

i just want the lighting to stop only connecting to two foes randomly then deciding 6 is good

[spice veldt]

but I think the secondary is fine in a vacuum

[undone elm]

even then

[echo turtle]

I told you why. it does no damage

[undone elm]

its not about how close i noticed

its just up to RNG gods

[spice veldt]

it also takes time for it to target other enemies, so it only stuns like 2 enemies if you switch off prematurely

[echo turtle]

One swing on an antax mk5 which takes 1/2 a second does more damage to a horde than a lightning

[undone elm]

its like rolling dice if i can proc more than 2 derpy bolts of mildly annoying static or 6 bolts of harmful zeus juice

[halcyon root]

Do you have a link to this mod?

[echo turtle]

@pine relic we played yesterday

[spice veldt]

maybe if the primary fire was a more targeted stun rather than a simple ball projectile like the Equinox staffs

[echo turtle]

i was just looking at the scoreboard and saw you

[undone elm]

hang on which is the antax?

[spice veldt]

mk5 combat axe

[echo turtle]

the mk5 antax

[undone elm]

is that the axe?

[spice veldt]

it's the blue/Black-ish one

[undone elm]

please dont compare to a combat axe thats unfair LOL

[echo turtle]

yeah

its not

[pine relic]

Yeah? What's your name

[undone elm]

it is

[echo turtle]

why the hell are you uselessly surging a horde when you ciuld use the axe

[undone elm]

a combat axe to the skull does more than a bolt of thunder

[pine relic]

Just search darktide scoreboard mod

[halcyon root]

word thanks mate

[echo turtle]

here is a game I use the axe and surge

[undone elm]

an axe does not arc to multiple foes?

thunder chains "unreliably"

so a spyker using a normal axe

these are kinda doo doo options for melee for this class

[restive slate]

Lightning more for cc specials and elites anyway

[echo turtle]

Gl out there man, I’m telling you how its done

[undone elm]

see i wish that was the case

[echo turtle]

you can take the advice or not

[undone elm]

dogs just dont care

and i noticed the game will randomly give dogs hyper armor

[echo turtle]

Xavier

[restive slate]

Axe with brutal momentum does improve dealing with crowds

[pine relic]

Maximum stack 45 damage

[undone elm]

so even if you pop a hound with any stunning attack its rng if they even stop charging

[echo turtle]

bahahaha

[undone elm]

i have lit a hound up with thunder only for it to tackle me

[spice veldt]

another thing about surge

[echo turtle]

yeah dont do that

[spice veldt]

is that it applies its VFX to enemies that it doesn't target

if you just move your camera around

[restive slate]

Did you charge up for that hound?

[echo turtle]

lightning to stun, then Bb or kill it in melee

[undone elm]

fully

[spice veldt]

the VFX and actual stun are desynced

[echo turtle]

ligthning does no damage to infested

[undone elm]

im not kidding it randomly wigs ou for me

[pine relic]

Rip my plasteel for this garbage blessing.

[echo turtle]

its like 6 fully charged lightnings to kill a hound

[undone elm]

dogs still get stunned from attacks

[restive slate]

Might be like Arcotash said

Rip elliot

[undone elm]

hell playing as my preacher i lit a hound up with an autogun and it didnt care but most of the time it does

[echo turtle]

I am aware of how hounds work

[undone elm]

so it really does seem like ther eis some wonky RNG or buggy..ness.. to the game

[restive slate]

I prefer the Hunting Grounds dogs so much more haha

[spice veldt]

the game certainly has some kinks to work out

[undone elm]

i have killed them in 1-2 before

[echo turtle]

not on T5 you’re not

[undone elm]

yea i think the combat is still a bit buggy or some mechanics are not fully explained

[spice veldt]

or the game is straight up wrong about it to you

[undone elm]

i dont play T5 normally its a nightmare with randoms

[echo turtle]

Lol

it’s not but ok

[restive slate]

What may help is a ready animation for the hounds before they pounce like the Assassin Rats of VT

[undone elm]

uh yea it is

[echo turtle]

I almost exclusively soloQ T5

pretty rare I lose outside of Hi-intensity

[undone elm]

look im gonna just accpet that your better than i but calm down. lmao you sound a bit braggy bro

[viral solstice]

i never lose

[echo turtle]

You are arguing like, everythinf

[viral solstice]

except when i lose

but thats bugs

definitely bugs

or lag

[restive slate]

I get crafting materials, still a win

[spice veldt]

i only lose when i lose

[echo turtle]

and making statements that are pretty silly and from a lack of understanding

[spice veldt]

otherwise i never lose

[viral solstice]

exaclty

[undone elm]

ok now you are being unreasonable dude

[spice veldt]

well that's just his impressions as a new-ish player

[pine relic]

Why do you even want to use void strike staff?

[spice veldt]

not as anything formulated or super in-depth

[undone elm]

new ish? im not new

[spice veldt]

idk to psyker

[undone elm]

oh yea i am

[spice veldt]

i don't get that impression from surge after 500 hours

[halcyon root]

because its hilarious to gib things with it

[spice veldt]

but it's certainly underwhelming at the start

[viral solstice]

void strike rules u strike with the void

[spice veldt]

you eventually see some light of it, though I personally don't like the surge

[viral solstice]

and its totally fine as a weapon its not the most amazingest but im outdamaging everybody in every damnation i q

so

it ok

and i mean literally 20 games in a row

[spice veldt]

if i met voidstrike on the streets, i'd slap it

[undone elm]

honestly i like the power sword and i think its voidstrike?

[viral solstice]

but thats mainly because u get cheesy horde damage

[restive slate]

The weapon is good unless you lose then it sucks

[undone elm]

the one that makes a ring you aim with

[spice veldt]

i'd say purgatus is more analogus to the power sword

[viral solstice]

no if u lose its still good its U that sucks

[spice veldt]

at least, the pre-nerf power sword

[viral solstice]

unless its bugs

or lag

of course

[halcyon root]

the blessing on the voidstrike is fuckin bugged though

[spice veldt]

with its infinite cleave

[viral solstice]

which one

[undone elm]

i ahve not found a powersword since update

[restive slate]

Which?

[undone elm]

they nerfed my boy??

[halcyon root]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/transfer-peril-does-not-refund-peril/58917

this one

[twilit flicker]

I think you mean force sword? Only veterans get the power sword.

[restive slate]

How often does everyone find Power Cycler for Power Sword? Not found a single one here

[spice veldt]

pretty sure transfer peril works for me

[restive slate]

Transfer Peril working last I checked

[spice veldt]

that bug report was from nov 22

[undone elm]

oh uh yea the force sword my bad

the funny warp blade that goes woooop

[halcyon root]

hrm well I wasnt getting it to work in psykarium

[spice veldt]

woooooooosh

[safe crystal]

Found one this week on Sour Milk's shop, didnt buy it cuz i dont like the weapon :>

[twilit flicker]

Yeah its awsome!

[restive slate]

Gib

[spice veldt]

bro what

:(

i don't like you

[undone elm]

i want a mini bottle cap opener force sword

[spice veldt]

force dagger

[halcyon root]

Imagine if the psyker had actualy weapons that used warp

instead of just the staves

[spice veldt]

imagine if peril was actually part of the normal usage of force melee

and wasn't just relegated to the special

[restive slate]

Force knuckle brass

[spice veldt]

imagine actually integrating the core mechanic of psyker into the basic function of a melee?

[twilit flicker]

the staves are just different types of ranged weapons, it may as well be a nerf gun

[echo turtle]

make sure to use one of the cosmetics with good kneepads if ur gonna use the FS a lot

[twilit flicker]

a hose

[halcyon root]

Imagine if psyker wasnt a shitty copy/paste of sienna

[echo turtle]

cuz ur gonna spend a lot of time on all fours

[spice veldt]

imagine if we actually got the beam or bolt staff

[undone elm]

well it has a "10" chance to drain preil on a kill or was it melee kills?

either way its kinda there but not

[spice veldt]

WHERE'S MY RANGED DPS STAFF

10% to quell 10% peril is an Iconic (passive) of Psyker Psykinetic

[halcyon root]

gimmie bolt staff pls

[restive slate]

A beam staff equivalent would be great

[undone elm]

you know what psyker needs? a ranged beam staff that is a charged sniper bolt

[twilit flicker]

a bolt staff? it would be like trauma though, right? even the primary wouldnt be that different. it would look cool though! maybe like surge again but .. .well idk

[restive slate]

I also want the ultimate cc, Kerillian deepwood

[halcyon root]

bolt staff was the sniper fire arrow

[safe crystal]

I took a screenshot to commemorate the occasion Sour Milk offered me anything worth buying

[restive slate]

I wanna lift Ogryns

[cyan notch]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-impressive-very-nice-coping-patrick-bateman-gif-26518058

[undone elm]

yea V2 had some dope staves

[spice veldt]

now you're just rubbing it in

::(((

say sike

[undone elm]

i loved the sniper bolt staff

[halcyon root]

I mean psyker is just a beta sienna, just crtl c ctrl v the rest of her staffs paint them blue BAM development done

[undone elm]

that one shot was just

https://tenor.com/view/perfecto-chefs-kiss-gif-25676630

[spice veldt]

I sort of hoped that Psyker would get a ranged DPS staff that would let me hipfire and not have to ADS

[undone elm]

this

[spice veldt]

and here we are, months in with no new weapons

[halcyon root]

psyker is literally the bastard child class

[restive slate]

Comlink this week right?

[safe crystal]

I kinda want something similar to VT2 bolt staff uncharged machinegun for one of the staffs in Darktide

[halcyon root]

"Hey you fuckers still playing psyker? Lets nerf em again"

[spice veldt]

mfs better mention a 2h force sword

even if they don't give me a sniper staff

[halcyon root]

give me the crowbill bro

paint that blue too

[restive slate]

"People complaining Veteran too strong? Let's buff them again"

[cyan notch]

crowbill was ass lol

[restive slate]

The unnerfed Crowbill

[halcyon root]

yes sorry

I needed to specify that

[torpid olive]

Such a high FPS gif!

[halcyon root]

psyker itemization is a fuckin joke too

who the fuck is using guns

[cyan notch]

some people

[halcyon root]

fuck em

go play a vet

get outta here with that

[viral solstice]

guns

[undone elm]

this is honestly a really important point. why am i gonna use guns on my mage

[twilit flicker]

im using guns, i just made a video

[cyan notch]

there are a lot of shooters and guns are pretty good at dealing with em fast

[undone elm]

its great for a joke but

[twilit flicker]

waiting for it to upload though ...

[undone elm]

magic'

[restive slate]

I don't mind guns if they're more like laspistol and it's force push

[spice veldt]

incorporating the core mechanic of a class into their weapons?

no

[halcyon root]

"HEY guys im a space wizard but I prefer to use old technology of guns"

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-confused-question-marks-gif-12181142

[ornate hamlet]

I'm late on the topic, but whether transfer peril works or not it's not a useful blessing anyway

[restive slate]

Sounds like what a Heretic would say haha

[ornate hamlet]

dude i use this, it has really low warp resist, and i still don't have any issues at all dealing with peril

[twilit flicker]

the way i see it, the staves are just different options for ranged combat. they look cool as hell and the class mechanics revolve around peril and so on. but have you ever laid waste to a horde with the Ius Mk3 Shredder Autopistol

[spice veldt]

i guess magic should be saved for the last uses bb for assassination boss shield

[restive slate]

Pain

[restive slate]

Psykers got those ammo voicelines for a reason haha

[ornate hamlet]

you can purge while moving easily, and animation cancel out of it any time, peril management with purg is ezpz even with a staff that has poor warp resist
transfer peril is really not needed even with poor warp resist purg staff

[spice veldt]

purg can't even get transfer peril can it

[ornate hamlet]

quell speed is a lot more useful than warp resist in staff imo

[ornate hamlet]

whether it can or not, it's not needed at all

[restive slate]

Purg can't get transfer Peril thou

[halcyon root]

transfer peril is for void strike

[spice veldt]

it certainly helps because voidstrike takes more peril per enemy to kill them

[restive slate]

We were talking about Voidstrike in the first place haha

[ornate hamlet]

i don't think transfer peril is really needed on any staff

[spice veldt]

it's not needed, but the other blessings are eh

it's your best option by elimination

[restive slate]

Not needed but helps

[ornate hamlet]

even run n gun is more useful imo, and it's pretty useless too

[halcyon root]

just lets you spam a hallway longer

[spice veldt]

something something sliding

[restive slate]

Now if Rending Shockwave was on Voidstrike, that's a different story...

[halcyon root]

Please, I dont need to be aroused publicly

[spice veldt]

equinox staffs sharing blessings?

no

too reasonable

[viral solstice]

wait do 3stam curios even exista ny more

the hidden c urio

[spice veldt]

no

my +3 stam with stam regen and sprint eff is merely an illusion of the mind

[viral solstice]

i knew it

im just like i gotta have one random one on my psyker

i got so many

nope

[spice veldt]

lmao

[viral solstice]

truly emprah scammin me

[spice veldt]

i bought all of the +3 stamina curios that I saw in the shop

because I knew that shit would be rare

[viral solstice]

ye my zealot has like

[spice veldt]

i'm a real gold spotter

[viral solstice]

30

[spice veldt]

too bad only one of them actually got a semi-decent roll

[viral solstice]

i mean the only roll u need

is curio chance

to get more curios

investment banker mindset

[spice veldt]

my semi-decent roll has curio chance 🙃

also isn't curio chance bugged rn from what people have been saying

getting pretty much no curios at all even with curio chance

truly the best perk

behold this little jack shit

[viral solstice]

das fine

[spice veldt]

smh that curio perk could've been something impactful like experience

[viral solstice]

im using 3 b lue curios i think

and i have made 40 orange staves

[halcyon root]

All those mats... lost... like tears... in the rain

[twilit flicker]

like grains of sand, to the wind

[viral solstice]

i thought evolving to crab would be good because no tear ducts

but now i just cry on the inside

[spice veldt]

so many of my mats went into curios

half into curios, half into force swords

[twilit flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/patpat-pat-comfort-pat-on-the-head-there-there-gif-10534102

[spice veldt]

the other weapons went to go fuck themselves

[forest coral]

Calm down John blade runner

[halcyon root]

curio crafting is aids from a shared heroin needle

I just wanted to have a good time and now I got aids and im addicted to heroin

[twilit flicker]

well you should've thought of the conseq ... the repercussions

[pine relic]

Did we win

[twilit flicker]

i made a video of a run i did on heresy with the autopistol today, but the upload time it taking too long, ill share the link tomorrow goodnight!

[raw drift]

I love how I can choose to just use a sword and a staff and feel exactly like I'm playing Sienna pretty much

Or I can use a gun and experience the nice gunplay

[twilit flicker]

all psyker team

[halcyon root]

With all four staves?

With your powers combined I am captain warp

[raw drift]

Playing psyker sometimes feels like a completely different game, just not worrying about grenades or ammo, always considering status effects and peril, it's really neat

[viral solstice]

ye tho what makes me sad is that most of it is kind of

not really dynamic its very basic

[cyan notch]

what exactly am i looking at

[viral solstice]

and the benefits to high peril are not enough

i wanna be rewarded for blowing myself up more

[raw drift]

I expect that more careers for classes will be added at some point and the feat trees for those may be more oriented around coaxing the warp to murder you

[spice veldt]

psyk's wrath and kinetic shield sitting at the front door for you

[halcyon root]

we all did

[viral solstice]

i have both and theyre not really

violating the fabric of space time tier

like the problem with peril is frankly even with a high peril build the incentive for being full peril really isn't that high because if i could press a button that dropped me to zero peril so i could spam back up to high i would do that on the reg

which is straight up an issue

[raw drift]

Have they confirmed there won't be any? if not, I expect they'll come eventually

[ornate hamlet]

not using toughness regen?

[viral solstice]

the only time u get to specifically optimally high peril spam is if ur yeeting blobs at head height over a massive horde

or ur surge but i dont got da surge

[spice veldt]

interestingly, my coherency efficiency tends to be surprisingly high

i still don't like toughness regen cuz i have to be near my team to activate it

[ornate hamlet]

...lol there's a lot of benefits to being in coherency but that's one of the big ones yes

survivability

[spice veldt]

maybe if it was a team of 3 zealots running in

[still hearth]

I never survive

[spice veldt]

whenever the path splits, I always take the path that my team doesn't go down

[halcyon root]

just go 3 wound curious. simple as

[still hearth]

I refuse

If I die, I die

[ornate hamlet]

searching thoroughly is honestly often not even worth the extra time it takes to complete the mission, nor worth the risk in higher difficulties, there's way too many areas of maps where enemies spawn right on top of you and insta-gib you or cut you off from allies when they needed your help, etc

it's best to stick in pairs at all times

search around, but do it in pairs

[spice veldt]

no not for mats but so that I can hog the kills in that area

[ornate hamlet]

and we don't even need ammo either, so

[still hearth]

Truly the move

[halcyon root]

no way man - on damnation there are like 40-50 mats

[ornate hamlet]

you can get them in pairs

[spice veldt]

there are no private solos yet so I'm going to roll that way if I can

also depends on my mood

sometimes I want to melee monkey and I go off on my own

sometimes I actually do want to win and I stick with my team

[halcyon root]

but i mean as a psyker yeah no but let the zealot do that

[ornate hamlet]

way too often i'm in missions with randos who go off on their own waste way too much time not helping while only 1 or 2 of us are doing all of the heavy lifting
while 1 or 2 are running around aimlessly like lost children instead of helping
and when they do come to "help" their version of it is trying to knock ppl off ledges with explosions

literally the most cancerous trash players, and they frequent all difficulties

and they're usually vet players

sometimes ogryn

[spice veldt]

i don't use my trauma staff for hordeclear at all

only ever for bruisers, stalkers, shooters, and melee elites

maybe if a flamer is hiding inside a horde and I don't have enough stamina to push spam to get to them

[ornate hamlet]

like we straight up could have completed the mission twice as fast and still gotten most of the mats anyway

[spice veldt]

oh don't worry, I run ahead of my team whenever we clear an area

[ornate hamlet]

but they wanna search every nook and cranny no matter how far away it is and waste everyone's time

[spice veldt]

i don't bother looking for mats since I know they'll search anyways

[halcyon root]

thats why you let the zealot do it with their sanic speed

[spice veldt]

force sword has a heavy attack movement tech

because it allows you hold your heavy for an extremely long time

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i like zealots, if it were up to me i'd que up with special condition:
No ogryn and No vet

zealot and psyker only plz

[halcyon root]

theyre all good

[spice veldt]

hold your heavy during a slide to avoid the initial slowdown phase and sprint once your slide ends

then slide -> weapon swap to melee to avoid doing a heavy attack -> repeat

[ornate hamlet]

the vast majority of zealot and psyker players are sooo much better players than most ogryn and vet players i run into

[halcyon root]

ogryn is a walking buff bot bullet sponge slappy boy- vet is a great backline shooter, infinite grenades

[spice veldt]

getting teammates who don't die is good enough

[halcyon root]

thats because ogryn is a meme and veteran is so overtuned its what everybody plays

[ornate hamlet]

i prefer the teams that complete missions twice as fast as other teams

[spice veldt]

I had a psyker who ran ahead even more than I do and was dead 30% of the mission

[ornate hamlet]

yeah it's sad that psykers are so often the leaders

because the other players are just bad

[spice veldt]

my damnation games are always 35 minutes or less

including hi-intensity

there are rare 40 minute ones

if I have 3 zealots on my team, it's basically guaranteed to end within 25 minutes

[ornate hamlet]

yep, if it was up to me i'd run with zealot and psyker only

ogryn and vet classes are fine, but the average player using them are trash

[spice veldt]

i'm always sus of any stubber ogryn I see

since they tend to shoot into bulwark shields and lock them into their shielded state

[ornate hamlet]

bad zealot players are actually pretty rare.
bad psyker players are uncommon.
bad ogryn players are common
bad vet players are extremely common, and you usually get 2 of them not just 1 lol

[spice veldt]

at least they usually bring bolters to delete melee elites

then they can go down after they do that and I don't really care much

[viral solstice]

no o gryn player is bad

u take that b ack

all o gryn players are good bois

[spice veldt]

i feel like i do get very middling psykers often though

voidstrike users who don't know when to stop using their staff, surge psykers who use it on hordes, purg psykers who don't know how to melee and hopped into hab dreyko for some reason, trauma psykers who also don't know how to melee

at least on NA West

not that I mind since I get all the kills to myself

[halcyon root]

lmao

[spice veldt]

200iq run away from your team so that you avoid their sightlines entirely

[limber silo]

Why tf is surge blessing NOT on the SURGE staff

[halcyon root]

ogryn needs a rear view mirror - problem solved

[viral solstice]

ill surge staff hordes idgaf

[limber silo]

would it not make sense and synergize as well?

[viral solstice]

its op

like the weapon is so boring

might as well have some fun and spend 5 minutes killing poxwalkers

[astral lark]

jokes on you, i run a plasma. shoot right through big boys

[still hearth]

Jokes on you, now you penetrate less.

Or rather

[astral lark]

sometimes on purpose

[still hearth]

"cleave" less.

[astral lark]

‘bra’ less

[still hearth]

Losing 25% cleave isn't fun

[viral solstice]

plasma only has one meaningful downside

[astral lark]

lol, i remember participating in that thread

[viral solstice]

u cant use it with deadshot

qed

[astral lark]

the op legitimately believed that meme

Forgot what deadshot was

[ornate hamlet]

I'm a psyker who isn't braindead, so i don't use guns.

[still hearth]

That meme

Isn't even wrong though

It does assume that you're using it poorly

[astral lark]

it has to be basically the worst grey to be that meme

should mention explodes user

[limber silo]

Ok, so Surge Blessing is on Voidstrike (might as well us secondary 100% of the time) and Trauma, which is alright I guess. But not on the Surge staff, which has a crit bonus and is called "Surge"

y tho

[spice veldt]

the surge staff which also has one of the better primaries among the staffs

[limber silo]

fr

[spice veldt]

and crits more often

cuz

go fuck urself

[halcyon root]

this

[limber silo]

I would totally use Nexus + Surge, but it's not real

[halcyon root]

https://tenor.com/view/because-fuck-them-why-gif-12024919

[spice veldt]

man i'm telling a lot of people to go fuck themselves today

today is a great day

[still hearth]

1, 2, 3 are true. 4, 5 is only partially true. 6 is more like 4 shots with full heat reduction? 7 idk. 8 is also true, especially if you aim poorly.

[halcyon root]

I feel like there are a lot of design decisions where somebody asks "but why not this?" because fatshark are trained professionals at balance and making a fair game in all aspects

https://tenor.com/view/george-costanza-nod-smug-gif-13235912

[fierce sinew]

it's because it would be good

[limber silo]

Ok, so what is the average pierce of vet's other options? about 2 for all lasguns, right?

[viral solstice]

tbh its just that nothing got tested really and they had no time

[spice veldt]

or they imagined that it would be too OP

[viral solstice]

most of the broken stuff is clearly just things where the numbers had one pass

[limber silo]

Would an aoe burst still out dps killing 2 enemies?

[viral solstice]

and they were l ike

lets go

[spice veldt]

and prematurely nerfed it by never letting surge have the surge blessing

[viral solstice]

thats all we can do

surge cant have surge blessing

its called surge staff

because it already surges

if u put surge on it

it would become suurge staff

which is different weapon class

[halcyon root]

This isnt darktide unless psyker is nerfed on the reg

[viral solstice]

use brane pls

[limber silo]

But imagine -- Purgatus w/ Blazing Spirit

[spice veldt]

my b my brane isn't as advanced as a crab's yet

[astral lark]

most of these are only technically true, but not true in practice

[limber silo]

drooling over my big boy soulblaze stacks

[viral solstice]

purgatus with blazing spirit would be boring tho because u couldnt see it proc

now

SURGATUS with blazing spirit

SPICY LIGHTNING

[limber silo]

SURGATUS

[spice veldt]

oh yeah

[still hearth]

Idk the biggest issue I have is really just that the heat mechanic isn't fun at all