there any weapons with crit damage high enough that it might be worth using(or just not crap)?
#psyker-class
viral solstice
tbh u would always take 5% crit / a damage mod really
shut ether
Just finished a hi-intensity full grim run and got a 380. How's the emperor fucking you guys lately?
Are you pleased, varlet?
summer prairie
I've only gotten purples from hi full grim and the ratings were mundane as well
violet fossil
What perks should I look out for on the Mk IV dueling sword? Flak armor for sure, but I'm not sure about the 2nd
shut ether
Unarmored probably
leaden thunder
unarmored or maniac
summer prairie
Dueling swords need help against both horde enemies, depending on warp charges and whether they have rampage
unarmored is more generally helpful, I guess
near wyvern
I've only gotten purples from hi full grim and the ratings were mundane as well
I have so far only gotten 1 actually decent roll (orange 371 revolver) from emperors gift, I only play damnation (all of the variants). Mostly it's ordo dockets in disguise of a 310 weapon.
near wyvern
What perks should I look out for on the Mk IV dueling sword? Flak armor for sure...
Depends what you run with it. If you have a good horde clear on ranged, you want +flak and +maniac. If not, then you want at least +infested and blessings that assist you in clearing horde (like shred, rampage)
idle bay
All or Nothing Blessing on Axe virtually does NOTHING?
While even T2 Thrust does... something?
I just want to reroll one of them into BM and it seems that will be a All or Nothing 🙂
wet jacinth
violet fossil
Depends what you run with it. If you have a good horde clear on ranged, you want...
Current pairing is a purgatus staff, so I've got horde clear already. Flak/Maniac it is.
near wyvern
Current pairing is a purgatus staff, so I've got horde clear already. Flak/Mania...
Yup
inland sand
Yup
tell me wise one
why
the fuck
does Trauma have quell on weakspot as a blessing
inland sand
that;s true but then ur basically just at net 0 peril for primary
viral solstice
most of the staves have a bunch of pretty dead blessings
they just whacked on a bunch of gun ones
in case they worked
leaden thunder
it will randomly proc on the secondary fire some times
viral solstice
i think
if an enemy has fallen over
u can get a weakspot hit
would need to test but i imagine if the only hitbox huirtbox intersection for that is a weakspot
should be a weakspot
dense ivy
When are they going to stop nerfing Psyker
long wharf
how long do you think the game will be online?
viral solstice
why is the rashad such a powerful meme
u can chain kill bulwarks with it like a champ
and if u got the shortened bb cast time on f
u can legit kill 3 in like 5s
i need to get rid of bm 
i think an antax would do this totally fine too so its not really a rashad thing except rashad heavies faster
so the shortest ttk
u can guarantee the weakspot quite easily even with bm up but then how much rashad do u need
shy fiber
Yay? Nay?
viral solstice
like duelling swords
do u like em
cos really thats good enough to use right
its just... do u wanna sword some duels
shy fiber
I like being able to block bullets
viral solstice
not like u gotta buy it
shy fiber
the utility is so clutch lmao
shy fiber
not like u gotta buy it
Oh no Big E gave me this
viral solstice
yeeee
shy fiber
i'll keep it around for when I want to do something fun
I like Force sword cause I can block bullets
Deflection is so fucking nice holy shit
viral solstice
tbh i want a force sword with bloodthirsty soulblaze on crit
fire sword fire sword
also
yeee thats 100% consistent its kinda nice honestly
having that in ur back pocket for bulwark packs
olive ember
Just use surge staff ez pz
Also you are assuming the vet doesn’t pop a grenade that causes them to all breakdance with their jank ass shield hit box kek
fierce sinew
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XrFCn3Nkm8xOj/d13378Rz2mMo...
if you scroll up far enough you can see me arguing this specific situation as one of the benefits of unyielding on antax prepatch
it's definitely comfy
fierce sinew
with the warp charge buff it's no longer needed, just helps you get one shots (post BB) at lower charges
twilit flicker
tbh i want a force sword with bloodthirsty soulblaze on crit
For the 5 seconds Bloodthirsty is active, you are a God amongst mortals.
viral solstice
i just wanna set goobers on fire
twilit flicker
If they dont die instantly to a couple lights the fire will finish them off, i posted a video earlier of what it can do
near wyvern
does Trauma have quell on weakspot as a blessing
the same reason it has Surge, obese megalodon trolls us
and the salvo blessing as well
that salvo blessing is funny cause the staff that could actually use it is Surge but it can't have it
inland sand
i feel like they just didn't finish blessings
along with 25% of the game
that we are yet to see
lot of potential in the system though
guess we'll see how it unfolds
echo turtle
tbh i want a force sword with bloodthirsty soulblaze on crit
thats a funny combo since blazing spirit applies like 4 times on a charge attack
viral solstice
and then i can use the ultimate surge blazing spirit combo on my void staff
10% of the time ill do damage every time
echo turtle
If you like fire, why not use a fire staff?
viral solstice
purgatus staff and flamer are both the most boring weapons in the game
i like projectiles
plus it makes cool noises when it hits the head
echo turtle
you know what you gotta do then? flayer with wrack and ruin on a gunker
echo turtle
its not great
viral solstice
i subjected some damnation unfortunates to wrack and ruin flayer recon lasgun
for double fire
it was one of the builds of all time
tbh they should really give psykers a talent that is crits with non-force weapons apply 1-x stacks of soulblaze
and they just normalise the number of stacks by attack speed
or fire rate
that would be so fun
echo turtle
they could do a lot with it, Its just pretty whack atm outside of the final feat and the fire stff
maybe one day they will make it less awful
strange wigeon
"oof ouch this burns, I gotta go heal"
viral solstice
entire pack of poxwalkers
queueing at the med station
also i int a lot from suicide but this was a true scam
im pretty sure its something like the enemy i was targeting died as i began it so first tick was off target so it started at 98
but cmon mayne
ah yeah i can see it happen, the healthbar is for the reaper and the glow bounces JUST as i turn, still i blame everybody else
safe crystal
For 2.4k milkies, i wouldnt buy that. Base stats are ok, thats about it. You can get a better one by upgrading one
twilit flicker
I wouldnt, not unless it had a t4 blessing i want to collect
frank hazel
Melkcoin economy
wraith raft
I need guidance on what to do with this staff. what perk reroll, blessing to put.... kinda new here!!😃
idle bay
Learned more effective method of tanking DH today - just to dodge sideways when it starts it's combo - then most of it's attacks goes nowhere 🙂
brazen magnet
Reroll 8% perk to 25% to flak I guess, and barrage to Warp Flurry would be something I would consider.
safe crystal
I need guidance on what to do with this staff. what perk reroll, blessing to put...
Specialist ranged damage into flak/infested/unarmoured. Blessings, terrifying barrage -> warp flurry would be what i'd do, but i dont use trauma too often
safe crystal
:>
idle bay
Observation:
I see a lot more non-30-th level characters now. And it give hope that game is reviving 🙂
Some of them never seen psyker Penance set 🙂
safe crystal
There are twice the amount of players than a few weeks ago, that is true. According to Steamcharts
safe crystal
Its a decent base, sure
feral crater
Observation:
I see a lot more non-30-th level characters now. And it give hope t...
Part of that is also that most of the level 30s moved on to damnation since it's actually worth the effort now... So any lower difficulty is less saturated 😄
idle bay
When on Grimoirs weekly you have to stick to missions that have collectables even it t1 .. and good if it scripture missions 🙂
shy fiber
Imagine doing grims or scrips willingly 🤢
fierce sinew
now that we have infinite reroll I assume people with grims want grims
shy fiber
what do grims do anyway
fierce sinew
they complete the relevant contracts, other than that they get you some more rewards at the end of missions
exactly what I'm not sure of with the patch
more dockets and xp, but whether and how they factor into the emperor's gift I don't know
lilac tapir
Hey guys, is this worth upgrading or Finesse too low? Trying to get a good knife and get used to it before jumping into Heresy/Damn with it.
fierce sinew
they help zealots complete that one penance that demands they be below 1 wound for n% of the map
idle bay
With quality of nurglings' poop Emperor's Gifts - secondary objectives and diffculty irrelevant - you will still get non orange garbage even below Melk shop tier.
So just higher diffculty for more mats and cash and then gamble it all (smartly) to ~~Hardon ~~Hadron
fierce sinew
I get a pretty high density of oranges, they're just always guns it seems like kek
idle bay
Melk currently ahve for my Surge with T4 Terifying Barrage.... oh well t4 blessing for collection
safe crystal
Reddit hot takes again?
olive ember
I swear I make a post and I keep getting these replies and I’m like
What are these takes
What’s the exactly percentage again like 5% toughness for every 10% quelled? Idr lmao even tho I mostly run it
safe crystal
Yup, 5 for 10. Considering EH is up every time theres a fight with a purg build, this guy has the worst goddamn hot take ever
trim cargo
Best blessings for Purg? Just rolled a level 4 terrifying barrage. What other level 4 should I be hunting?
safe crystal
Warp nexus
candid crest
He has it
safe crystal
At T3
candid crest
I would warp flurry but I don’t know how it works with purg
olive ember
candid crest
Ok then, then yes, Nexus to T4
olive ember
I think this guy downvoted me for trying to correct him lmao
Actually the dunning Kruger effect on display
trim cargo
Does Nexus really do something? was leaning towards maybe flurry
safe crystal
Crits apply double soul blaze stacks, the faster you get to 10 stacks, the better. Flurry doesnt work on purgatus at all, no matter what you do.
candid crest
Critical hit on a purg is extra stack on top of normal crit bonus IIRC
safe crystal
Soul blaze damage scales exponentially until you hit 10 stacks
candid crest
NVm, IceSlow corrected my BS
viral solstice
Crits apply double soul blaze stacks, the faster you get to 10 stacks, the bette...
have u tried prayer
trim cargo
Cool thanks guys
safe crystal
have u tried prayer
Yeah it turned my flurry to run n gun 
candid crest
have u tried prayer
Death to the False Emperor
candid crest
Seriously, Loner Psyker is a heretic
olive ember
Run n gun
candid crest
Run n gun <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
I have a voidstrike- Surge and Run n Gun
Now I can shoot 3 shots while I sprint crit
twilit flicker
Seriously, Loner Psyker is a heretic
I think of him more of being in purgatory, paying his penances for forgiveness
we all are
olive ember
doesn’t he literally go by the five or wte
safe crystal
Yup
twilit flicker
think not, ignorance is strength
twilit flicker
a perfect candidate for the black ships, is that correct?
candid crest
Since they are sanctioned they were there. The question is - why didn’t they got fed to the Throne or Astronomican
Psykinetic is definitely not powerful enough to chain them into a psi-Titan
olive ember
think not, ignorance is strength
How do you feel about quietitude on a purge staff build
candid crest
If I can answer - top tier Sedition play. Maybe even good in HI Sedition
safe crystal
Damn, it needs to be nerfed
twilit flicker
quietude is just not that good in general, it does have the benefit of being able to restore toughness without needing a target though
candid crest
I may be dumb but I run quietitude with a stun stick
olive ember
Quietitude is now 1% peril gain every 5 peril guys now you get even more consistent peril quelling
No Quietitude is still the best option when using surge
I run Quietitude myself as a surge staff main
candid crest
I also need to get better voidstrike roll before I can judge it with the voidstrike build
olive ember
I know the limitations of Quietitude quite well, so these people saying Quietitude on purge is… wow
I think you run warp essence tbh
But Quietitude works because of transfer peril
I just don’t really think it’s worth it considering you kill like multiple walkers per bowling ball
candid crest
Yes that was an idea but I do need to get a voidstrike with transfer and flurry first
But honestly - not sure if voidstrike if my play style. I do quite enjoy the Surge
If I want a purge gameplay I load in flamer Zealot
safe crystal
I'll still play AB purg, just because i can shout sick burns on the shooters in the backline
shy fiber
I really want to try out trauma staff at some point
viral solstice
ive made like 30 orange voidstrikes and still no surge
shy fiber
I have a really good purgatus build so I can farm the resources to branch out if I want
This update is so goood omg
candid crest
ive made like 30 orange voidstrikes and still no surge
I got mine from cash shop when they made it good before the patch
viral solstice
yes
thats what im praying
but im also like
why not set all my resources on fire
u kno what i mean
candid crest
Yes, that was my experience rolling Vraks 7 on a patch day
candid crest
I feel for you Crab
safe crystal
Man, yours look even sadder than mine 
viral solstice
and the thing is
my staff is good!
i have tier 4 flurry and tier 3 quell!
BUT I WAN DOBLE SHTO
wanna shoot TWICE when i shoot
safe crystal
I just want surge and warp nexus voidstrike
candid crest
Thrice. It’s +2 shots on a critical hit
viral solstice
well i would shoot like 7 times
maybe more
because im built different
but also hell yea
i was happy with it being twice
safe crystal
Is it still better to roll for oranges, instead of just rolling into blues and stopping there, for the T4's?
viral solstice
i have no idea
candid crest
Hol up. So y’all saying to me my 376 base voisditke I like to meme about with surge and run n gun is actually good?!
viral solstice
i have about 50 blues
steel egret
I dont see Voidstaff surge there
safe crystal
I have 40+ blue void strikes
viral solstice
tier 2 sustained fire
for SOME fuckin reason
literally 20+
i was like u know what
lets orange
and because the ratios are still fucked
im making diamantine so
steel egret
Is it still better to roll for oranges, instead of just rolling into blues and s...
its not any different probability, it would make no sense.
candid crest
Crab, legit any time I get a decent HH purple roll the game insists on putting a T2 Falter on every single one
viral solstice
ive made a lot of shitpost staves
safe crystal
its not any different probability, it would make no sense.
What makes sense in this game though?
steel egret
What makes sense in this game though?
Aquila store.
viral solstice
its not good but its trying
safe crystal
Aquila store.
NOOO damn you got me
leaden thunder
afaik it's more resource efficent to just upgrade to blue
shy fiber
Oh wow that’s really good
leaden thunder
and if it's salavagable then go gold
viral solstice
well i have a lot of them
see i just made this one
i can do this all day
im sitting on a stockpile
candid crest
afaik it's more resource efficent to just upgrade to blue
On a paper. It’s much rarer to find a 360+ base with a good split in reality
And even if you are swimming in Oreos, it’s like 5% chance of 360+ IIRC from Brunt’s
safe crystal
I must be lucky as hell then
viral solstice
every time i do a mission i buy a rashad, a force sword and a voidstrike
and then set money on fire
candid crest
So I just fish for gray/green through the day (I can login even from work) and just grab and upgrade that stuff
The problem is this, at least on vet guns - there are multiple cases when you need a 25% perk to hit a BP, or maybe even a blessing. Yeah, pain
viral solstice
i think the process of doing this
is why ive been refining the rashad
i need something to do for a few mins between games to take my mind off the staff that just failed
im debating when i get surge
running blazing spirit surge
because its like
10% of the time... u shoot triple burny fireballs EVERY time
u know what i mean?
big gambler lifestyle
candid crest
Why not nexus and just sit at high peril? More balls that way
olive ember
olive ember
I really don’t want to pull out the “I play damnation with a surge staff psyker running Quietitude and you don’t know what you are talking about” but
Wow
candid crest
Man, I play drunk Malice, and I agree with ya 😄
viral solstice
candid crest
Running purge spoiled me - I forgot to even check my warp charges
viral solstice
ive played literally every build that the mind of crab can create and i can confirm that toughness
candid crest
But again - Reddit gonna Reddit
viral solstice
ive also debated going warp flurry blazing spirit
and 5% crit perk
because double balls nearly offsets loss of nexus
but flurry without peril quell is sadness
olive ember
Lol warp transfer is first trait you want on void iirc
After that is flurry or wte you want
olive ember
Dunno if this is a hot take but the situations where being able to gain toughness without needing to hit something is niche AF
viral solstice
depends how u play
i use it a lot
well i mean how do u count ducking for cover
quelling in cover
olive ember
Well you can BB in cover
It’s what I do even with quietitude tbh cuz BB gives me like 30 peril
viral solstice
ye but its just instant regen
its pretty handy
no set up
usable at full peril
etc
olive ember
🤔
olive ember
I suppose it’s just that I feel that only rly matters for trauma XD
Purge staffs will have AB vent
Voidstrike has transfer peril
viral solstice
transfer peril is usable in fights but its not that much toughness unless ur horde spamming
olive ember
It’s a weird thing tho cuz if you aren’t in fights then I’d rather just walk to my teammates
How I found use was for in between instances of combat
Like I just finished surging a mutant, took a shot or two, see a horde incoming so I quell to reduce peril and regain toughness
viral solstice
ye but it stacks with coherency regen, works when eveyrbody is downed or ur on an off angle etc
viral solstice
i think its more useful if u play like me ie like an idiot
normal mauve
Is it worth it to animation cancel the rmb for voidstrike?
viral solstice
i know how to do it but i dont bother
normal mauve
Or better to full charge and release?
viral solstice
its optimal under certain conditions for certain things
but u dont need it to perform very well
if u dont wanna do it dont worry about it
normal mauve
Ahh gotcha
viral solstice
its one of those things where its like the % of your success with voidstrike that comes from just deciding where to shoot the tastiest blobs and what angles to take so dominate how u perform that this stuff is marginalia
normal mauve
Does the charge amount increase blast size? Or just increase dmg?
leaden thunder
the blast is mostly irrelevant btw
it's more of a railgun then an explosion
aim at heads shoot through them
viral solstice
well, its a railgun with the most fucked up hitbox known to man where u can shoot a foot over somebodys head and they get domed
leaden thunder
warp magic
viral solstice
the real thing to get used to is to when shooting at enemies on a flat surface
do a little hop before shooting
and shoot flat
so u get a flat trajectory and 100% headshots
normal mauve
the blast is mostly irrelevant btw
You’re kidding… really? I thought radius and dmg were the stats to look for 😯
viral solstice
charge rate warp resist damage really
quell is nice tho more or less important depending on blessings
and blast radius is the gucci or prada stat for luxury only
candid crest
Quell is nice to have but not important. Voidstrike doesn’t generate too much peril and with transfer you should be OK
normal mauve
Interesting. My idea for the warpstrike is spam rmb and anim cancel to get to 5 stacks of warp flurry fast and then you can get the big meaty charges
shadow wigeon
mk5 caxe enjoyers: what's your preference for blessings lately?
echo turtle
mk5 caxe enjoyers: what's your preference for blessings lately?
Brutal momentum and decap
just crushed a hi-5 with axe and surge, top of the team for most catagories
Momentum is all yoo need tho
shadow wigeon
just crushed a hi-5 with axe and surge, top of the team for most catagories
I jsutr tried it (lo5) withot momentum, and didn't miss it there at all. Decap vs headtaker?
candid crest
Bromentum and Headtaker, but all you need is Bromentum
summer prairie
Anim cancel resets flurry
shadow wigeon
(Brutal momentum and limbsplitter)
you monster
olive ember
Assuming you are running meta which is brain dead push attack spam
Limbsplitter is a free constant damage buff
olive ember
Yeah
shadow wigeon
that's awful
olive ember
Push attacks are different “attack chains” so limbsplitter is considered “meta” since all you do is push attack spam with antax
leaden thunder
which is wierd
becuase the lights are better as far as Ican tell
have more cleave(with bm)
without it the the push is good
olive ember
Push attack is perfectly horizontal and it protects you since it’s a push attack iirc
shadow wigeon
yes it is
leaden thunder
i mean 100% push attack
olive ember
The lmb is more diagonal last I checked
shadow wigeon
I mean... it's pretty great
leaden thunder
because you can do both
shadow wigeon
when you need to solo
olive ember
On psyker you really do just push attack spam last I checked
shadow wigeon
I prefer not to for regular play, but just had to solo the last 5, and it's all push attacks
olive ember
But head taker is noice and meta for general use psure
leaden thunder
if you need to clutch you should probably be doing both
I paid for the whole moveset I am gonna use the whole moveset
shadow wigeon
Yeah I'm not advocating for building for push, but it's very strong.
shadow wigeon
I paid for the whole moveset I am gonna use the whole moveset
Yeah, agreed.
I do wonder if they will nerf caxe push somehow, it seems so strong.
leaden thunder
I mean the antax in general
olive ember
Again from a purely meta standpoint spamming push attack is meta and therefore limbsplitter is meta
leaden thunder
is stupid strong
leaden thunder
I feel like that meta is stupid
the lights damage more targets infront of you then the push
the push has visually better cleave
but nto actually
shadow wigeon
The power difference isn't bg enough for me to care, but thank you for sharing that, I would not have thought of LS like that
olive ember
If you need to single target you wanna use heavy and I believe the push attack staggers more things like ragers
leaden thunder
if you want single target vs hard targets you heavy
so crushers maulers maybe flak ragers
and the rest of the ogryns
lethal folio
Push only does more damage when you are hitting exactly 3 targets, and even then, less than 10 total damage.
leaden thunder
like a lot of weapons that have decent push attacks you should toss one in now and then
there is like 2 weapons that actually have good push attack spam
and it's one of the taxes and the knife
viral solstice
ye most push attacks are awful
i didnt get why so many players seemed to be talking about push attacks until i played a bit of vt2 and realised it was nostalgia
most of them are prima facie obvious dogwater
leaden thunder
also Ithink some misinformation was spread
without bm I can see the push attack spam
viral solstice
i blame emmanuel macron
crystal jolt
tbh i don't know how well the antax holds up on damn without bm and just push attack spam
I always feel like I can engage vanilla horde a bit easier with bm
shadow wigeon
tbh i don't know how well the antax holds up on damn without bm and just push at...
on a lo5 it was fine, just tried it
You noticed it missing in big hordes, but I just switched to push attack for a sec or 2
shadow wigeon
I was running surge, so more horde clear
viral solstice
tell him ur not a coward u run revolver duelling sword and shout en garde before every fight
shadow wigeon
tell him ur not a coward u run revolver duelling sword and shout en garde before...
disable ptt tho
olive ember
I’ve seen a revolver dueling sword psyker on damnation tho
And he slapped
2nd game back ez damnation win
viral solstice
yeah nothin wrong with it
its just it sounds like the worst possible gun psyker annoying combo
crystal jolt
sounds like a fun build, might try it
viral solstice
its about the psychological damage such a loadout causes
im a serial loadout criminal so i would not disparage any noble specimen running such a setup
shadow wigeon
what feats would you run to actually maximize that?
candid crest
Damnation true duo, scoreboard mod 2v2
olive ember
2 vs 2 lmao
now thats something
I'd have to find someone to play with tho
I just need this link here so if I ever need to look back and go "reddit take" I have it for reference lmao
night violet
Any semi reliable strats for “out with a bang” and “pick and mix”? Been trying since the beta and still nothing
olive ember
both are more reliable with a premade via LFG
leaden thunder
wait for dogs to come back
olive ember
out with a bang it took me forever but basically we went to like malice and shoved a bunch of shotgunners into the corner
and then I blew em up
sleek yacht
oh really, do the mini dogs count for bang penance?
sleek yacht
I got it a long while ago I couldnt test if i wanted
candid crest
Any semi reliable strats for “out with a bang” and “pick and mix”? Been trying s...
With a bang - comms plex data interrogator. 3 gunners/Shotgunners, per every time the thing breaks, 4x on Heresy Plus
fierce sinew
pick and mix you can run commsplex 5s with barrage
olive ember
For pick n mix getting a premade makes it alot easier because you have the three players deal with normal shooters and horde
candid crest
The worst part is getting perils beforehand
olive ember
and then you just have to kill 5 gunners in 12 seconds
which isn't the worst
like when I did it I actually screwed up and had to kill a reaper and I still got the penance
but it takes about 8 seconds in the meat grinder with KB to kill 5 gunners
so you have 4 seconds of leeway
echo turtle
LOL
candid crest
Yeah, for pick and mix I may suggest HI Heresy. I am simply not sure about BB BPs on Damna
echo turtle
harvest is where it’s at
echo turtle
lols
olive ember
Need I say more?
echo turtle
hes right about the BADs
leaden thunder
yeah
olive ember
oh wait wrong one
leaden thunder
wrack and ruin is super unfortuante
candid crest
Lvl 10 is simply warp resist
lilac tapir
Any semi reliable strats for “out with a bang” and “pick and mix”? Been trying s...
Comms-plex at the end of the hacking event after you press the elevator button 3 guaranteed gunners or shotgunners will spawn from the room entrance (the stairs). Just make sure you notify your team so they can either help you or at least not ruin it for you 🙂 Also on higher difficulties (or heresy high intensity) you can do pick and mix during the hacking event as a lot of gunners/shotgunners spawn from the entrance of the room and there is a clear light of sight to most of them usually.
fierce sinew
Yeah, for pick and mix I may suggest HI Heresy. I am simply not sure about BB BP...
damnation you still kill gunners in 1 and they're less likely to die randomly to accidental fire from others
echo turtle
olive ember
@echo turtle sorry this is the screenshot
echo turtle
He’s a punk ass
this is with, essence, communion, kinetic defelction, ascendant and uh battery
sleek yacht
I downloaded scoreboard but for some reason it doesnt show up at all, like I still see the notifications of people picking stuff up, but it wont show at end screen
echo turtle
low intensity 5 double grim
candid crest
<@829595273482207252> sorry this is the screenshot
olive ember
he runs battery on his surge staff
echo turtle
I downloaded scoreboard but for some reason it doesnt show up at all, like I sti...
gotta do all the@mod instructions
theres a bat file u gotta run and 3 other mods
echo turtle
he runs battery on his surge staff
lol well I would if I wasnt using essence
this was with the surge build
these were back to back today
that was a hi-5
olive ember
lol well I would if I wasnt using essence
meh I personally use KF on surge
sleek yacht
ah okay I se
echo turtle
as do I
olive ember
run aura instead of communion run KF
echo turtle
but I run essence
olive ember
WB on surge while running KB
echo turtle
cuz it gets me way more regen
viral solstice
have u considered that the most important reason to take kinetic flayer is that it goes off randomly and thats funny
candid crest
Depends, in a pub I still would take 6 charges and even maybe communion on normal Heresy on below
olive ember
On surge staff?
candid crest
Still prioritizes elites
echo turtle
thats the surge build
Taking 6 charhes but then not taking aura is bewildering
I have better peril@management with my 4 in this build
echo turtle
anyways, easence harvest is where its at
olive ember
kinetic shield
candid crest
kinetic shield
Why?
echo turtle
shield is Ok, but it depends on the weapon
olive ember
you don't hit any breakpoints
you don't use the warp charges
you aren't even that good at generating charges since you don't have KF
shy fiber
Zamn
olive ember
damn really?
welp atleast you have essence harvest for now
or is it warp absorption
honestly idk which one is which lmao
candid crest
Isn’t 6 stack the BP for doggos/ragers?
echo turtle
anyways, essence harvest. It’s aweosme
halcyon root
Voidstaff would be a fuckin machine gun if this perk worked
olive ember
I fucking swear when I was writing the purge build on reddit I legit had to alt tab every time I was talking about perks
echo turtle
i trigger that multiple times between quells, With purge I seldom quell
olive ember
because I only know quietitude by heart
more psyker buffs
olive ember
Void and Trauma use the 10% per enemy killed better
echo turtle
just normy dregs
leaden thunder
I mean stack wise
echo turtle
feeding my hungry psyker tummy
leaden thunder
not the trigger for it
olive ember
and surge doesn't kill enough imo to utilize essence harvest
or warp absorption
well
both
i still don't know which one is which lmao
echo turtle
I use harvest for both
surge can sort of make use of quietitude
cuz it runs up peril so fast
shadow wigeon
Quiet is great with surge
olive ember
yeah quietitude is the go to for surge
olive ember
on anything else you would be better off using the other two perks
shadow wigeon
but I get way more@out of harvest
that's very surprising to me... where are you getting warp charges from?
olive ember
honestly comes down to preference and I prefer the reliability when using a surge staff. Means I don't have to deal with having to BB to get toughness back
shadow wigeon
Flayer does not proc with surge often
olive ember
its also faster since my F will quickly give me a quarter toughness back
vs having to BB
viral solstice
flayer will proc when i tell it to proc
shadow wigeon
i wish
echo turtle
its also faster since my F will quickly give me a quarter toughness back
With Harvest, you already hve that 25% back
olive ember
Thoughts?
sleek yacht
hey thats me
olive ember
With Harvest, you already hve that 25% back
hey
sleek yacht
echo turtle
that guy is correct, the botton guy
olive ember
I will say how I use toughness regen on demand
echo turtle
you have ti hide to get it
I already have it, and am getting@more while@you cower
I am ultimate
honestly tho, do whatever
olive ember
what I do is I actually melee on high peril, the moment I take a hit I press F to knock everything down and regain toughness
shadow wigeon
Yeah high peril = melee time
echo turtle
I just notice I personally get far more regen
shadow wigeon
or build peril just to heal, and you can be more aggressive.
echo turtle
I often dodge dance with BBs out
just regening the whole time and taking fuck all damage
shadow wigeon
I often dodge dance with BBs out
fair, if you do this, harvest is strong
echo turtle
that’s actually a decent argument FOR kinetic shield. I talk a lot of shit about shield. But it gets your ranged damage reduction to 80% while@dodging and bursting
thats actually pretty good
viral solstice
which ones kinetic shield the dr one
echo turtle
It’s OK in a BB/ surge build
viral solstice
and i dont block much anyway
echo turtle
I block a lot
but I am trying not to lean on it
tbh I though I used it a lot more, then I saw I blocked like 10 attacks all@match
viral solstice
were u blockin boolets
echo turtle
I was like… fuck, maybe I don’t need it
viral solstice
i wonder if that counts
echo turtle
naw FS is not my fave
viral solstice
ye then idk
echo turtle
I prefer weapons that kill stuff
viral solstice
the thing about kinetic shield is that it just multiplies the value of ur toughness
that shits tite
echo turtle
naw
olive ember
In my opinion Kinetic Shield is not actually that good. While the "10-33% extra toughness against ranged" seems good, in practice its not really that useful. In damnation difficulty, 2-3 shots is enough to break your base toughness of 100. Even if you take 3 toughness curios, you will end up with ~160 toughness. This means you will be able to take 3, maybe 4 shots if lucky (one shooter burst). Even with kinetic shield working at full power, you will only have about 210 effective toughness. That's still only enough to save you from 1-2 bursts of one shooter. But when the game spawns squads of 15 shooters, kinetic shield will not save you from bad positioning and it is not worth giving up the extra melee tankiness and killing power Kinetic Deflection provides.
echo turtle
it reduces incoming toughness damar
viral solstice
ye that shits nice
also that stuff about shooters is wildly wrong
for like a jillion reasons
leaden thunder
tbh
olive ember
thats what I put for my reddit post on why I think kinetic shield is overrated tbh
echo turtle
dodging and shield while bursting is 80%
leaden thunder
you also don't block that much
viral solstice
- thats point blank damage which u are very rarely taking
forest coral
Kinetic deflection is kinda insane on anything with good push block
leaden thunder
unless you are using a defelector
viral solstice
- if ur taking a whole volley shit has gone wildly wrong or u were taken by surprise
echo turtle
gunners and reapers if you have even 15% mow do@like 1/20th of thier damage
viral solstice
because u should be sliding or dodging the fuck out of dodge the moment u hear either the audio tell or the flash
olive ember
To be fair if you aren't taking a full volley why use kinetic shield in the first place
viral solstice
olive ember
base 100 toughness is enough to cover anything less than a full volley
olive ember
I mean I guess but then you are basically saying you are taking the full volley XD
echo turtle
Like I said, Shield is OK
i only use it on Bb builds and maybe gun builds to sustain in firefights
echo turtle
dodge + shield is 80% which is good
olive ember
i suppose
viral solstice
theres so many reasons
olive ember
Just isn't as good as what deflection provides tho
viral solstice
one of them is that any random toughness damage u take is reduced, so time to full toughness is lower
echo turtle
Deflection is fuckinf unreal, you wanna dive hordes and slaughter. Take it
viral solstice
if u take 2 hits back to back
echo turtle
I still dive I just dodge dance more now
olive ember
also idk I don't really have a problem maintaining full toughness
viral solstice
etc etc
echo turtle
also idk I don't really have a problem maintaining full toughness
you play t5?
olive ember
yea
echo turtle
I find I lose toughness a lot i dunno
olive ember
well the last damnation game I played was suffering
viral solstice
like literally toughness is better the more of it u have when u take a hit right
so if u take a random hit in melee
having 30% dr or whatever for the first hit means u have more toughness which means u take less chip
etc
etc etc
u know the drill
echo turtle
like literally toughness is better the more of it u have when u take a hit right
you wanna avoid melee hits as much as you can
echo turtle
ur a wizzard harry
viral solstice
the point is that more toughness is just swag
echo turtle
get it together
viral solstice
and toughness dr is more effective toughness
echo turtle
it stacks too
viral solstice
theres also a bunch of stuff about how many things key off toughness, things like flinch
u never want to have naked health
ever
more toughness = more time without naked health
echo turtle
so say you have, 30% gunner resist. Now your effective toughness is 3x after shield brings it to 65% or whatever
echo turtle
whatever
viral solstice
whatever u vibe with u can make arguments for borderline anything
echo turtle
I take health and toughness
shy fiber
Lmao ok
echo turtle
healthbar is really good
olive ember
Also one other thing to take into consideration is that I was saying base 160 toughness and kinetic shield toughness of 240 but thats was cuz some people were talking about 3 toughness curios
shy fiber
god mods letting me turn off grey filter
Do the mods work now?
viral solstice
ye
olive ember
with 100 base toughness at max resist you have effective 133 toughness cuz basic math
shy fiber
Darktide updated and I haven’t been able to use mods
olive ember
and its like kinda meh imo thats like maybe an extra shot
echo turtle
It’s hard to get toughness up that high, and I would pop a health in there
But I dunno, I go@back and forth on health vs toughness
viral solstice
the main thing that kills me is me
olive ember
idk some people in the reddit was saying like "use 3 toughness curios" which is
a take
viral solstice
im my own alpha predator
echo turtle
Its not bad
echo turtle
3 tougneas with toughness regen
olive ember
Just don't think its as good as running 2 max hp
echo turtle
then keep essence up
shy fiber
Use exp-exp-exp curios
echo turtle
ur regening like the master chief
olive ember
especially with how squishy psyker is the hp helps alot more against scratch damage
and corruption
I fucking hate corruption
echo turtle
Corruption resist is better for that
viral solstice
i mean thats the thing i dont take much chip
leaden thunder
Use exp-exp-exp curios
shy fiber
If only
echo turtle
thats how it should have been
leaden thunder
toughness regen is goated
olive ember
Corruption resist is better for that
it is, but max hp is useful in general
shy fiber
+exp is such a stupid stat wtf
olive ember
so its like a good in between
echo turtle
it is, but max hp is useful in general
it is, there is no wrong answer
viral solstice
max hp isnt bad at all but its just gonna be diff amounts of utility for diff people
olive ember
better no matter what, helps against corruption
echo turtle
you can go either way
olive ember
fair
echo turtle
stam too
olive ember
sprint efficiency?
olive ember
all woudns
echo turtle
yeah thts bad
viral solstice
like ive spent 200 hours playing duck n dive deadshot veteran giving me brain damage but also giving me the special power of not taking much ranged damage
viral solstice
it ees what it ees
shy fiber
Wound-wound-wound lmao
echo turtle
all wounds, VOTE TO KICK
echo turtle
legit if I see all wounds I’m mot reviving you
viral solstice
for the team
4x in a row
they're like a walking voodoo doll
burster?
wound guy goes to shove it
dog?
wound guys job
leaden thunder
viral solstice
its like u know how with ships they have sacrificial metals
that stop the other metals rusting
thats wound guy
leaden thunder
and it's a shieldgryn as well
viral solstice
if ur an ogryn stack so many wounds ur health bar looks like a fuckin ruler
fuck em up
olive ember
hey I used a shield ogryn
viral solstice
How do I get mods to work again
run the batch file again
forest coral
How else are they supposed to count behind 5 crabby
shy fiber
Ohh rly
forest coral
shy fiber
Ok
viral solstice
there was a hotfix so they get disabled until u re-enable
viral solstice
the other thing about the utility of toughness and hp is that u can play specifically around toughness or u can kinda ignore it
the utility of toughness is wildly diff to those 2 players
olive ember
My thought process is "bleedthrough damage is % based, therefore stack hp"
and for shooters I just don't get skill issued kekw
echo turtle
the utility of toughness is wildly diff to those 2 players
yeah, if you stack some DR and build into regen
it can work
leaden thunder
I have started to feel the need to have toughness on my zealot
but on vet I use hp
echo turtle
I run all tough on my zealot
shy fiber
Vet has insane amounts of toughness
olive ember
two grims took be down to like sub 50 hp
echo turtle
i also do critlot so
obtuse crypt
if ur an ogryn stack so many wounds ur health bar looks like a fuckin ruler
Wounds don't matter much when I launch the shield ogryn off a ledge with a barrel after they're standing there doing nothing
echo turtle
friendly reminder fam. we take +25% toughness damage while sprinting
viral solstice
Wounds don't matter much when I launch the shield ogryn off a ledge with a barre...
dont bully him
echo turtle
yeH
leaden thunder
psyker does ye
leaden thunder
vet takes
viral solstice
ever
leaden thunder
double toughness damage while sprinting
shy fiber
sprinting is for getting around
olive ember
Excuse me
datamine says psyker takes 25% extra toughness while sprinting, 50% while dodging or sliding
shy fiber
never in combat situation
echo turtle
when are u getting hit while sprinting tho
if ur always sprintinf ur always getting hit while sprinting
olive ember
tbh why you sprinting kek
shy fiber
datamine says psyker takes 25% extra toughness while sprinting, 50% while dodgin...
wtf is that though
is it true
olive ember
oh sorry that sounds wrong
near wyvern
bleedthru damage is % of ur toughness tho
Yes and all toughness regen is % base so the more you have toughness and the better regen you have, the less opportunities there will be of bleed through as long as you don't touch fire
leaden thunder
50% reduced on doding or sliding
shy fiber
Do you guys prefer toughness over THP?
viral solstice
so if ur at full toughness and sliding a crusher overhead that still hits u is gonna do half
leaden thunder
I like hp on psyker
leaden thunder
but I am not a good metric
near wyvern
And Kinetic Shield reduces toughness damage taken. All, not just ranged. The tooltip is wrong.
viral solstice
taking 9 stam is probs not accomplishing that much but otherwise who cares, yolo
yes all toughness dr is like that
thats why i took it immediately
leaden thunder
And Kinetic Shield reduces toughness damage taken. All, not just ranged. The too...
yep
so does the vet's 75% damage reduction
there is no "ranged toughness damage taken"
smoky fractal
im thinking of just stacking all hp on my psyker
viral solstice
they didnt implement it
leaden thunder
it's just toughness damage
smoky fractal
everything breaks through toughness on psyker like a knife through melted butter
solar cloak
I somehow have 3 curios with revive speed
olive ember
though i heard you should run 2 max hp 1 stam if you confident
smoky fractal
i thinking of 2 hp + 3stam
olive ember
oh yeah i meant 1 stam curio
leaden thunder
I actualyl like havign a wound on vet
smoky fractal
ya
olive ember
yeah something about how peril blocking scales of stam
fierce sinew
damn hotfix broke my mods
rerun the .bat
olive ember
so getting +3 stam curio actually effects peril blocking
tbh though I feel like wound is just a good safety net in general tho
smoky fractal
rerun the .bat
oof just logged in, ill try again
olive ember
it means I don't lose half my health to a sniper
and it also means if I go down I don't just immediately die to a sniper shot
smoky fractal
tbh though I feel like wound is just a good safety net in general tho
i do go down more often on psyker
leaden thunder
tbh Idon't get snipered that much
near wyvern
i do go down more often on psyker
Well psyker is the glass cannon
olive ember
Psyker is my best class and the one I go down the least in but just having the QoL is nice
olive ember
granted I've basically only played psyker
smoky fractal
lol
olive ember
I think every other class I've only gone up to malice
Oh no I did bring my stubber + shield ogryn to heresy once
shy fiber
I played Zealot as my first character but I've grown to appreciate being a Psyker lmao
shy fiber
I'm kinda scared going back to Zealot
smoky fractal
its jarring being an invincible zealot and then dying on psyker
shy fiber
idk how much they changed since I used a fucking combat knife bleed build
leaden thunder
I main zealot and ogryn
olive ember
Its jarring being a psyker and then suddenly not being to hit anything more than 30m out
as a zealot
also idk I hate the zealot weapons for wte reason
personal thing
I cannot find a weapon I like on zealot
solar cloak
I main ogryn but if I wanna challenge myself I play psyker
smoky fractal
you get used to facetanking cause you can do it on zealot/ogryn
solar cloak
tried all the classes and psyker is a really a skilled class
daring nexus
I main ogryn but if I wanna challenge myself I play psyker
Ironic considering the ogryn takes minutes to kill anything tougher than a scab
smoky fractal
idk how much they changed since I used a fucking combat knife bleed build
its still good you cant just faceroll your keyboard doing it, you just have to mind what engagments youre taking
shy fiber
Being a swiss army knife as the Psyker is a lot more fun
shy fiber
its still good you cant just faceroll your keyboard doing it, you just have to m...
Can I still go unga bunga
smoky fractal
Can I still go unga bunga
have to mind what engagments youre taking
olive ember
for the sake of everyone please bring a flamer if you are running a knife zealot
shy fiber
I'm the last to go down as a Psyker and the last to get medicae
Sometimes I wonder if I'm too allergic to combat lmao
Or if I'm playing correctly
shy fiber
That was me the last few games I had
olive ember
I did but that was cuz assassination
so why wouldn't I top off before the boss fight
but yeah idk its a combination of being a backline class and knowing how to play it imo
shy fiber
Deflection + Kinetic Deflection is my saving grace
olive ember
like being zealot or ogryn its kinda inevitable to take damage
since you are in their face
solar cloak
Ive never been more paranoid of dodging as a psyker
shy fiber
You can't preach to the heretics if you're not literally salivating in front of their faces
smoky fractal
lul
shy fiber
I have a habit of switching to my force sword to quell peril instead of using my staff just so I can unlimited dodge
olive ember
I've got my "don't take any damage period" penance on my fucking psyker in a heresy assassination
shy fiber
But that takes up a lot more time than just quelling with the staff
shy fiber
I need to get rid of that habit
leaden thunder
just game end at the start of the map
and don't get ressed
can't take melee damage if you are dead
olive ember
But that takes up a lot more time than just quelling with the staff
oh yeah no I still have the bad habit of quelling with hands out back from the CBT
solar cloak
the make every shot count penance is really easy to do
just leave 1 round before the end of thre mission
alt f4
recon and use the last shot
olive ember
can't take melee damage if you are dead
Lmao I legit am thinking of doing that for on overwatch
just die and
yeah
leaden thunder
afaik it still works
olive ember
wait till the end
smoky fractal
should i buy melk sword or mine is good? i can put t3 rampage on the melk sword
olive ember
I mean
olive ember
not too sure cuz isn't the mk 7 worse than the mk 9
solar cloak
the one on top
olive ember
the left one has better stats
you could prob swap out wrath for rampage
but
its also an inferior mark right
cuz its mk VII instead of mark IX
smoky fractal
thats what i was thinking
olive ember
but i don't actually know so idk
night violet
Just got pick n mix by absolute luck, high int heresy 3 ragers and 2 bulwarks
olive ember
ayeee congrats
yeah pick n mix is def luck, you need a garbo vet and the right enemy setup
while also being covered well enough
night violet
Now for the one that effectively griefs the team :/