psyker-class

[wise pecan]

Camo vet does have one good use: they are very good for the hacker minigame

[brisk panther]

in their head they might do, unclear

[summer prairie]

Now I kind of want to play with 3 camo vets and just hide in the back out of line of sight

[steel flame]

It's too much power for their brains to handle, so they just freeze up

Clearly we need to nerf the shield so they can use it

[feral raptor]

any tips on getting the penance where you have to kill 3 elites with the warp explosion

[steel flame]

Doge mission

[crystal jolt]

Tbf shieldgryn and camo vets are a match made in heaven because the shield will actually draw the fire and the vets can just shoot stuff.

[feral raptor]

are the ones where they spawn like a lot of dogs still active?

[steel flame]

Yes. They all count as elites

[feral raptor]

hell yeha

thank you

[steel flame]

And they get oneshot by boom

[crystal jolt]

Its very fun looking at the kill feed during dog missions

[brisk panther]

love VS against dogs

[steel flame]

They really nailed the rework. It's chaos instead of simply frustrating

[vagrant furnace]

yeah the dog missions are fine, they are about proper positioning and teamwork when you got a wave incoming and that's mostly what the game is about - nice fun

[cyan notch]

i dont mind both versions

hardly frustrating for me

[forest coral]

Dog rush is fun af

With a vet in party it’s free ammo refill

[feral crater]

What's dump stat on dueling sword?

[steel vapor]

Id say mobility as long as its over 50

So you still got all your dodges

[feral crater]

3X80s make me wanna accept a pen dump...

Just coz it's pretty

Got another one with finesse dump...

God what's with the shop today XD

[steel vapor]

Still solid, you gotta test breakpoints, but you get +unarmored and either flak or infested, so test how it performs vs flak and if its good then that weapon is really good

[golden tartan]

Lmao just instantly watch all 3 go down

[steel vapor]

The only reason you need pen on a duelling sword is for normal scab enemies, so it can still be good if you have the breakpoints

[feral crater]

I have this one as well...

So 3 different dumproll dueling swords XD

[golden tartan]

Uh

[brisk panther]

i'd go for this one

[golden tartan]

How is that dumproll?

[steel vapor]

Thats pretty much as good as it gets

[golden tartan]

Mobility only needs to be >50%

For the extra dodge

[feral crater]

it has melee weakspot perk... Hope the second perk roll is good

[steel vapor]

Unarmored + flak/infested is the best, but weakspot is allright, you its a weakspot weapon anyways

[cyan notch]

lmao t2 perk

[olive ember]

What blessings should be run on trauma staff out of curiosity

[feral crater]

My god hadron...

[cyan notch]

flurry and whatever u like

[crystal jolt]

That's probably alright. If you can stick uncanny strike on it

[feral crater]

🤣

[spice veldt]

voila

[feral crater]

Reroll sprint and go

[crystal jolt]

Nice, so you can just wait for a t4 blessing

[feral crater]

By dump roll I mean all stats except 1 is >75. So it has a clear dumpstat

[steel vapor]

Its a really good blessing combo, get infested or flak instead of sprint 👌

Weakspot and rampage helps vs unarmored stuff

[feral crater]

20% infested... Should I reroll until I get a 25 or that good enough?

[crystal jolt]

Probs just reroll for the 25

If you've got the mats

[steel vapor]

I mean 25% is better than 20 but depends how much stuff you got

[brisk panther]

what staff are you pairing it with? id prob go flak

[steel vapor]

Big number better ugg bugg

[feral crater]

This is kinda my first big roll item. got 1k/4.8k

[forest coral]

Flak or maniac good

[steel vapor]

Uncanny strike helps a lot on flak, infested is better imo but its close

[forest coral]

See which one u get first

[brisk panther]

aye true

[crystal jolt]

Unarmoured/ infested would be better with uncanny for horde clear

[steel vapor]

Maniac is for mutants or ragers, you dont want to kill ragers with a duelling sword

[crystal jolt]

Unarmoured can help with dreg shooters

[brisk panther]

but if hes pairing with void or purga prob doesnt need horde clear

[feral crater]

My best staff atm is a purg. But trying to roll others next

[brisk panther]

so will mostly be used for single target then

id prob save it for horde clear for pairing with something else and go mk5 or FS with purga

[crystal jolt]

I wouldn't pair dueling with a horde clear staff anyway. Fs is better single target.

[feral crater]

As I said, this is my first big roll item. Still need to build up a set

Obviously will do better pairings later

[steel vapor]

I run high int 5's every day with purg + an almost identical duelling sword, imo its one of the best ways to play it

So i think you are set pretty well

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike + soulblaze ftw

[steel vapor]

Has anyone got a sword with agile blessing?

Im curious how it works

[summer prairie]

With a t4 thrust + 25% flak + 10% elite weapon 6 stack AB does ~1332 damage overall to flak elites

Enough to kill scab ragers if you gain a stack back after ulting

[olive ember]

according to reddit purge sucks tho

[summer prairie]

Uggis: those gameslantern blessings aren't in the game

[spice veldt]

why do people always say that voidstrike deals good damage

[feral crater]

Meh. People are shortsighted. They look at 1 number and go reeeeee

Purgatus has way more feat synergy than any other psyker weapon. Not saying it's overrated or overpowered. It just plays smoothly

[spice veldt]

infinite cleave

[steel vapor]

Purge is a slightly weaker version of the most overpowered weapon in the game, except it has infinite ammo and super fast swap speed haha

[feral crater]

😄

[steel vapor]

Reddit is as usual either wrong or baiting

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11dum76/best_psyker_builds_for_heresy/

I mean thats the thread

Doesn't seem like bait

Also I was bored and instead of going to sleep I made a wall of text that hit the 10,000 character limit

if only I could write as much for my damn college essays

[strange wigeon]

press F, look at my nice forcesword that has the words "slaughterer 4" engraved on it, everything dies

[steel vapor]

You are right, it doesnt seem like bait, it seems like he just have an opinion that i very much disagree with

Which is fine

[spice veldt]

make sure to hold X

[strange wigeon]

people always hyperfocus on dealing with specials and distant targets, a bad habit formed in lower difficulties where most players can't handle them so they're always feeling overwhelmed by them

[olive ember]

also one of them was talking about how the surge staff stuns 10-15 enemies at once

and I'm like

[strange wigeon]

you had the same comments in vt2

[olive ember]

Holy shit idk what surge staff you are using

but can I have it

I wanna be able to stun 3x the enemies as I normally can lmao

[ornate hamlet]

If you cheat you can

[steel vapor]

I think people spam 0 charge RMB's for max stun and no damage

[ornate hamlet]

Easy

That's genuinely

The optimal way to play Surge

You don't do damage regardless

So just CC things

[steel vapor]

Could be, i havent played much surge

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/private-practice-amelia-shepehrd-nodding-nod-mmhmm-gif-24926757

[olive ember]

Only real reason I would charge surge would be to screw those armored ragers

or maulers

but besides that yeah rmb spam works just fine

[steel vapor]

You kill every scab with flak i guess so theres that

[candid crest]

Wanna get more into voidstrike play - what should I look on it in terms of a roll? Dump stats? Perks? Blessings?

[spice veldt]

blast radius is the dump stat

though you could argue for warp res with a good transfer peril if you run quietude

[steel vapor]

Or the reverse ^^

If you dont run quietude that is

[candid crest]

So Transfer Peril and Warp Flurry (if they fix it). Perks then standard flak and maniac right?

Yeah, I do run quietitude with war resistance and 6 charges these days

[cold geode]

i can see the patch notes now. "we couldn't figure out a way to fix warp flurry so we removed it from the game"

[candid crest]

I mean my voidstrike has run and gun and terrifying barrage. So as long it’s not fixed I am sorta OK 😄

Cuz only need transfer peril to replace run and gun

[brisk panther]

i kinda agree. these are some numbers with purga (prushi) and VS (SYKE) in the same squad. absolutely not saying Purga is useless in any way tho. more of a personal preference of playstyle. purga shines specifically on horde clear but VS is alot more versatile

[steel vapor]

Probably flak + whatever you shoot the most i guess? Unarmored/maniac? Untelenting is BB material

[spice veldt]

the other thing to remark about is that purg doesn't kill enemies instantly

[olive ember]

I mean the way I think about it is that typically specialists will do things better

[spice veldt]

and purg is much better for mixed hordes

[olive ember]

for example when you are bringing a purge and a voidstrike I'm personally thinking about horde clearing

[candid crest]

Thanks. So any other mandatory blessings apart from Transfer Peril?

[olive ember]

purge does that better, and if I need to deal with shooters etc. I'd press F with Ascendant blaze or just BB

[spice veldt]

I can get as many kills as a flamethrower user if I just melee the horde they're flaming at

[olive ember]

voidstrike on the other hand struggles with mixed hordes in my experience and honestly I think the ability to kill shooters with it is overrated, it doesn't delete em, and the vet does that job better anyways

[steel vapor]

I personally dont think blessings matter that much for staves, yiu pick whatever you prefer - after all now we have the luxury of testing different stuff

[olive ember]

Well yes but the flamer also deals with maulers, beserkers, hounds, basically locks down a direction

[steel vapor]

Voudstrike is more like the ultimate hybrid no? Jack of all trades, master of none type

[olive ember]

I'd argue trauma would be better

voidstrike is simply long range aoe

[spice veldt]

i'm in agreement with you

[olive ember]

but the aoe isn't enough neither is the CC

[steel vapor]

Dont forget crushers, reapers, bosses

[spice veldt]

my point is that higher lesser enemies killed does not equate to a voidstrike standing on the same podium as flamethrowers

because purg doesn't kill enemies instantly, giving the opportunity for others to kill them

[olive ember]

well yes but neither purge nor voidstrike is good against em

well actually isn't purge fairly good against bosses

but yeah for ogryns you would want to bring a surge or a trauma staff

one big thing about the voidstrike is that it stops on first elite hit, I remember when I was screwing around with it in malice and a horde spawned and it took multiple shots because a damn mauler was soaking the damage about 4 poxwalkers in

[steel vapor]

True, i usually run purge with the BB talent so i have all bases covered, its very versatile i love it

[olive ember]

you try running AB? the ability to just wipe a room full of shooters is rly tempting for me

granted I run FS so for crushers n shit I would just pull out a FS after burning away the trash

[steel vapor]

I mean its not bad, its just overkill to bring it with a purg imo

It would probably be better with surge

All bases covered and all that

[candid crest]

Yeah, I used purg with AB pre patch. Nowadays if I am dropping in a random Heresy I would rather bring Surge and Barrage. It feels more “well-rounded”

[olive ember]

nah on surge I bring KB

Its good on purge specifically because of how often you get warp charges, and the 40m range of the push means you can light up entire rooms

[strange wigeon]

I bring it because of the slaughterer forcesword synergy, 6 warp charges and sword out means you kill all shotgunners/gunners when you blaze it

[olive ember]

on surge I don't really find I generate warp charges enough to utilize AB fully

[steel vapor]

Man i have like a million hours on this game, every map on high int 5 and i have no idea what the name is on a single feat lmao

[olive ember]

If you stick aroudn in discord enough then you'll remember eventually

just cuz I'd rather say KB over kinetic barrage, or AB or ascendant blaze, or KF over kinetic flayer

so many letters

so easy to shorten

[steel vapor]

Man im on discord too much and still it eludes me

I just compensate by saying things like BB-thingy etc

[olive ember]

You haven't seen the time we found a bug with KO (Kinetic Overload) because I wanted to win a reddit argument

it was truly a moment of all time

[summer prairie]

Kinetic overload meme https://streamable.com/42tccz

[steel vapor]

Just make a nexus mod to install bugs and win all arguments

[olive ember]

all that for half health

lmao

[rocky cedar]

Ummmmm what?

[summer prairie]

with t4 thrust + unyielding damage maybe you could kill it but you aren't getting that kind of density in a real game

[spice veldt]

does kinetic overload have any limit on the soulblaze stacks it applies?

[summer prairie]

should be 31

[spice veldt]

damn

[olive ember]

no clue but realistically I don't think it matters

[summer prairie]

so you need KO to proc 8 times, so on average you would have to kill maybe 100ish targets with AB

[olive ember]

without the dot falling off or target dying

[cyan notch]

shoulda turned on boss damage too 😋

[summer prairie]

yes, no idea why it wasn't on

I guess because in-game you get the bar anyway

KO could kind of be useful like this if it didn't dump all the stacks on one elite/target.

but no idea what a typical horde density is like

[olive ember]

Pretty sure people were arguing it would be good against gunners etc.

like while you are burning a horde KO is stacking burn on the gunner in the back

[ornate hamlet]

So

[olive ember]

but I believe the general consensus in the end was that Warp Battery was more useful more times than not

[ornate hamlet]

Can Surge one-shot Scab Ragers?

[olive ember]

If it procs KF yes

kekw

[ornate hamlet]

I played with a Surge Psyker and I saw him completely blast two Ragers

And I was like

https://tenor.com/view/buttsmarnn-gif-18440715

We did have a Flamer and a Purge staff so its not like we needed more horde clear anyway

[summer prairie]

a full charge crit can do over 800

[ornate hamlet]

Now imagine if it did 800 to six targets

And not two

And the Empy man got me this

That sick Infernus build, amirite.

[olive ember]

It could be worse

[spice veldt]

your wrist will also be on fire

[olive ember]

you could have gotten it on a mg la

[ornate hamlet]

Well now I have Infernus 4

For my Vet if I feel like Lasgun memes

But I also finally got Warp Flurry from upgrading Voidstrikes

[olive ember]

I remember when recon las was meta cuz of infernus

and then they buried it 6 feet under

[ornate hamlet]

Holy shit Warp Flurry on Voidstrike really is nutty

I was already getting into it being my new favorite without it

[summer prairie]

with 6 stacks you can do 1150ish overall when you crit

over 5-6 targets that's probably over 3k dmg

[ornate hamlet]

Surge gets Warp Flurry too, right? But apparently it doesn't work well on it?

[summer prairie]

It adds a delay between charges on purg and surge, haven't tested the others enough to know if they have the same problem

[ornate hamlet]

Can you get around it with R cancelling?

[summer prairie]

it's a very short delay, that wouldn't help

[ornate hamlet]

Hmm.

[summer prairie]

it's just long enough to take away the benefit though

[ornate hamlet]

Do you know if the stacks fall off if you swap weapon?

[summer prairie]

I mean haven't specifically tested but 99.99999%

actually even quelling makes you lose them

ulting doesn't

[strange wigeon]

still wish the nerf didn't hit it that hard, it was OP before but now it's just meh

[ornate hamlet]

Shame.

[strange wigeon]

should find a middle ground

[ornate hamlet]

They're getting there.

Slowly.

Baby steps.

[olive ember]

Warp Flurry on Surge breaks when you have warp nexus on it as well. On top of that surge staff functions fine just by spamming uncharged rmb, so the warp flurry would only be useful in niche situations where you would want damage from a surge staff

[ornate hamlet]

Well

[strange wigeon]

boss baby steps

[ornate hamlet]

I always want damage

[strange wigeon]

so each step is also annoying

[ornate hamlet]

Trying to find a way to make Surge not feel meh

[summer prairie]

people say surge does no damage but a full charge on flak can easily do thousands over multiple targets

and it kills most elites just fine, it doesn't matter if it takes a bit longer since those elites are out of the game

[ornate hamlet]

That's not quite true

[olive ember]

hard cc'ing 3 mutants and a dog def gives me the illusion of power

[candid crest]

If I just need to stun shit - uncharged spam. If I am alone see a small group of mobs - full charge

[summer prairie]

there is no reason to spam min charges when you can charge a bit longer and still have them disabled

unless you need to hit some other random targets with the cc as well

[ornate hamlet]

Min-charge > Antax heavy > min-charge. Chop chop.

[olive ember]

i mean uncharged is a bit more consistent

[summer prairie]

yeah if you want to melee min charges are good

though dagger better

[candid crest]

imho, uncharged spam into horde

[olive ember]

aginst shit like mutants which only get stunned like halfway through the animation

horde I just stay away from but thats cuz I use FS surge

[ornate hamlet]

I hate that you can't cancel the charge and stun mutants

Its actually the tiny electric ticks doing the CC on them

[olive ember]

i forget since I never use it

but does surge staff still have animation cancel for damage

[ornate hamlet]

Afaik yes

Charge up, immediately swap from staff when it connects

And you do the big damage instantly

But you lose the tick damage

And the CC

[summer prairie]

it probably won't hit all targets and you miss out on some damage but sure

[ornate hamlet]

Mostly

[olive ember]

I mean you "miss out" but you are able to get the big hit of damage without waiting like 3 seconds

[ornate hamlet]

Now I just need another good Voidstrike with a higher tier Transfer Peril

[summer prairie]

if you swap to hit them with melee it's worth it, otherwise don't think so

[ornate hamlet]

And I'm golden

Surge also uses the peril immediately so you're kind of wasting peril if you swap off

[summer prairie]

when you swap back to surge there is a delay

not sure if it's even faster damage than min charging

[feral crater]

Today is a good day 😄

[raw token]

if i earn the blessing warp flurry off of the voidstrike staff can i put it on my surge staff?

[feral crater]

no

[obtuse crypt]

kek

[feral crater]

Each staff has a class of it's own.

[raw token]

thanks

[raw token]

do you know what the three tier 4 blessings are for surge staff?

[summer prairie]

flurry nexus barrage

[stuck shoal]

why would one pick a combat blade over a force sword

[summer prairie]

it does almost everything better

[stuck shoal]

how

[summer prairie]

except single elite burst dps

and no deflector

[stuck shoal]

also about purgatus staff

[summer prairie]

Much better mobility, blocking, safer elite kill/horde clear. Can play much more aggressively

[spice veldt]

combat blade can't get slaughterer; checkmate
mobility is nice and the push-attack is pretty good; has a surprising amount of cleave

[stuck shoal]

what is the difference between the charged flame and the normal one

[summer prairie]

and better boss dps

[spice veldt]

i think the combat knife's push-attack cleaves 5 poxwalkers (or 4 or 3? I forget), though it's still a vertical

[stuck shoal]

for bosses isn't it better to just BB?

[summer prairie]

Bleed+knife push attack is much better dps

[stuck shoal]

hm

[spice veldt]

i'd say that bloodthirsty + slaughterer is good for an offensive force sword build

[stuck shoal]

it just feels like the force sword would be best for psykers because its like only for them

[spice veldt]

the force sword has the misfortune of having rather strong stat scaling and heavy reliance on blessings; and its lights are really shit except for the 3rd light

if built properly, it is a viable choice that stands out

if not, then it's kinda eh

[stuck shoal]

strong stat scaling?

what does that mean

[spice veldt]

the special attack is pretty nice though, since it deals stagger during the special and at the end

basically a low rating force sword is going to be really bad

and a high rating force sword is going to be good

[stuck shoal]

ah

so potentially it is very good it's just like more of a gamble

[spice veldt]

yeah

a bit more RNG involved imo

[stuck shoal]

idk i use the special attack on ragers all the time

has proven very lifesaving

[stuck shoal]

btw

[spice veldt]

yeah; that's one of the good things about sticky activation weapons. they allow you to deal with ragers in melee

like the LMB and RMB on purgatus?

[stuck shoal]

yes

does it do more stagger or something or more dmg

[spice veldt]

I know that LMB has better stagger

[stuck shoal]

like i just end up never using RMB on it

[spice veldt]

not sure about the exact values of damage, soulblaze ticks applied, its range, etc.

RMB definitely has better soulblaze application though

[stuck shoal]

so good for bosses right

wait soulblaze makes the enemy take more dmg from non warp right

[spice veldt]

no idea

[stuck shoal]

i'll have to test that

even tho i started playing this game casually it is actually pretty hard on lvl 3 and above so

gotta getgood

[spice veldt]

winning a game on higher difficulties is usually guaranteed if the team sticks together to clear each other

at the very worst, you could pick a player and stick to them

unless everyone dies to chip damage

[stuck shoal]

btw should i worry less about maxing out weapons before i reach lvl 30

[spice veldt]

pretty much, because you get lower rated items at lower levels

[stuck shoal]

Ok that's good to know

[cyan notch]

knife cant stagger anything

so ur gonna have to get creative vs stuff

[summer prairie]

it staggers gunner types

you can just slide/push to (shot)gunners even within a horde and just push attack kill them safely

[brisk panther]

warp flurry and transfer peril is pretty much mandatory for VS imo. also flak dmg + hs dmg

[cyan notch]

yea shotgunners and gunners arent a big deal for any melee

[spice veldt]

+weakspot isn't that good because the calculation for it is total ass
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/counterfire-is-still-not-applying-the-correct-amount-of-weakspot-damage/75377/4

[summer prairie]

flak+elite or flak+unarmored is better

[cyan notch]

but for like ragers maulers crushers u aint staggering anything with knife

[brisk panther]

interesting, thanks

[brisk panther]

you mean for VS, right? and generelly maybe?

[summer prairie]

for VS

[obtuse crypt]

That new blessing on dueling sword for refreshing dodge on weak spot hit seems pretty dank

[rocky cedar]

Wait I didn't even know that was a thing

That's great

Even more mobility for the MK V

[summer prairie]

it's not a thing, it may become a thing

[candid crest]

People talk a lot about difficulty spike between Malice and Heresy. And for a reason - Malice is a checkpoint for your basic game skills, while Heresy is a first check for the teamwork.

Issue here is - on Malice you can all fuck around alone all across the map and be fine, Heresy+ will punish that. So developing a team sense and your “role” in a given team is the next skill to pick up. Which is kinda hard with the current state of Malice.

For me, Heresy at first was a real check on my q and block push skills 😄

[idle bay]

On Heresy it's still possible to kark around map all alone and be fine... It's ambushes with a lot of elites/specials and long encounters where you need to push buttons/carry things (besides bad team mates) that turn check "group skills"

Here is few ogryns pushing you, with a dog from behind, and trapper shooting through the horde, while poxflamer pissis her green flam on you, and tag team of 2 mutantas, and while 2 Reapers and 3 gunners along with 5 common shooters peppering you with shots and they far behind ogryns and hord behind covers 🙂

[candid crest]

I mean, still doesn’t save from examples like a random pub kiting Beast into the next room, while previous one is clear and open for kiting. So they get aggro, sniper vigor checks the psyker, someone rushes for the res and gets eaten, while you deal with meme snipers, all while having ragers closing on you

[idle bay]

And my favourite part- design traps! Players still using FUCKING BAD defense positions on Heresy they learned from playing on Malice - since everyone uses them without thinking (poor karkers)

[candid crest]

Yeah, Heresy makes you learn positioning real fast

[idle bay]

Like that Brifge with floodlights to the face, or opening the round door where you technically attacked from all directions and you just need to take few steps back to the stairs and you will be fine

But noo... we loose 90% of health and die few times defending from where we learned from malice

[candid crest]

You mean the bridge in the Torrent or it’s another map?

[idle bay]

Yup. When you have to wait for elevator while defending teh brdge while specials and zombies eat your ass from behind

All you need to do is cross the bridge and defnd at spawn point with Medica 10 meters away 🙂

[candid crest]

Yeah, that’s 99% of malices

[idle bay]

Special still spawn in elevator room and have to cross bridge to get you

While you butchering everything that spawns in melee 🙂

[candid crest]

And it’s 2 spawns in the room, so 2 players ideal if you still insist on camping

[idle bay]

Enclavum Baros:

1. Dumb defense spot - walls
2. smart defense spot - behind the building with landing pad - from where 90 % of zombies go , and 75% of specials

You butcher everything that climes through the fense and coverd by pillar from enemies that can spawn on walls

[candid crest]

Or that cheeky little crate 😉

[idle bay]

Yes!

And my favorite - Torrent final defense spot back to the gate

[viral solstice]

i play only damnation and i still havent learned anything to this day

[idle bay]

Most stupid spot ever

[viral solstice]

and nobody can make me

[candid crest]

Consignment Yard - everyone just asks for it on top of rail cars

[candid crest]

And get rekt by a random sniper. It’s just to the left

[idle bay]

while inside of last car is funnier, or there is cheese that disable 75% of zombies o spawn

[candid crest]

Might I ask for a cheddar recipe?

[idle bay]

Few steps to the left and its fine. Just flanking shotgunnes can murder your team in seconds 🙂

[candid crest]

I had too many poxbursters from front and right

I admit I don’t play torrent too much. It’s and Dreyko are 2 maps where I still crash

[idle bay]

Separted carts on right side (from evac point) - some zombies come from ledge above the cart - coming down from the crates near the cart. So if you stand near that crates - they stop spawning! No more zombies from there - only scabs dregs special and elites

[candid crest]

Oh, nice. Thank you

[idle bay]

to be extra specific 🙂

Just 1 player is enough to disable zombies to spawn from that side

@candid crest another defense trap is wating that same elevator to go down to get that same bridge in Espionage missions. Party stands next elevator in the open, while shooters spawn in fron (far) at sides, along with snipers (from the right and from the far direct)/ Literally anywhere else is better spot there 🙂

@candid crest and enother slice of cheddar! Relay Station finale, where you disable the Nurge K-Pop concert transmition - you can jump onto the console in quite a few places and go high enough to break tracking for all the melee enemies (you still will be shot at mercilessly though)

[dusky bear]

[idle bay]

Make it Orange 🙂

What if t4 blessing will pop-up on it ? 🙂

[dusky bear]

i would for the memes if i wasnt already going through my plasteel like a crackhead

[idle bay]

Emperor protecs, but Omnissia provides (C)

[dusky bear]

that armory servitor really needs recalibrated so he quits giving sub 300 gear to a player running nothing but 370s

[idle bay]

That servitor is how Hadron earns extra rations 🙂

[leaden thunder]

rashuns

[dusky bear]

hadrons going to earn an extra boot to the head

https://tenor.com/view/boot-to-the-head-last-will-will-boot-boots-gif-17139591

[idle bay]

She runs secret casino (besides obvious casion) on Morningstar

And it's approved casino that prevents ordo docets inflation, and returns most of them into the ship's bank.

[idle bay]

Don't try to imagine how ships gets enough rations to feed THAT many ogryns on board 🙂

Today i learned that Plasma Gun have super-rare T4 Blessing that prevents damage from venting above 25% heat...

[leaden thunder]

not in the game yet

if this is the one you are talking about

there was a few new blessing datamined

including one for dueling swords

but it seems kinda ass

I think it's ment to reset dodge count after weakpoint hit

[idle bay]

In a matter of Blessing i have nothing to chase with my Psyker, while vet still requires a lot of work for few diferent weapons

[olive ember]

@bleak tulip this you?

[leaden thunder]

[olive ember]

well at the end of the day anything works so yeah

anyways I feel like dying sinc eI didn't sleep haha

midterm prep :d

[leaden thunder]

people not reallize that psyker has BB to covr the ranged weakness of purge

[safe crystal]

And AB if theres too many shooters

[leaden thunder]

how many targets does the voidstrike punch through

[fair kayak]

especially now after the last patch

Brain Burst is much much stronger now

[leaden thunder]

like I gladly have a kinda meh infinite range back up to my infinite cleave staff

[lunar hollow]

counterpoint

bowling :)

[fair kayak]

Voidstrike is fun as fuck

[leaden thunder]

bowling good but not enough to say it's the best

[fair kayak]

I use it in 3/4s when im just trying to complete mission board fast

but its not the best staff

[leaden thunder]

it could do with a little more damage at least against infested/unarmored to make it 1 shot poxies and groaners easier

[bleak tulip]

no but they're mostly right, I tried playing trauma and its still kind of not that good imo and I can never get over not having any range on purg

[vagrant furnace]

Voidstrike works great in malice but thats the problem most reddit posters are malice only player pushing to heresy here and there

[bleak tulip]

I wouldnt say its "without a doubt" the best, all staves kind of suck at damnation, damage wise

[vagrant furnace]

What

[leaden thunder]

purge shouldn't

since it's unlimited cleave

[fair kayak]

Purg does fine damage in Damnation

[bleak tulip]

void is also fine in heresy so the malice argument is still kinda meh

[fair kayak]

its literally just about controlling masses of mobs

[bleak tulip]

yeah, "fine" damage

just how void is "fine"

but not really good

[olive ember]

ngl I read that the wrong way and for a second I thought I was talking to @weary idol

[fair kayak]

In Damnation, Voidstrike damage is Anemic

Purg is fine

Surge is non-existent

[bleak tulip]

in damnation you just gotta charge void more

¯_(ツ)_/¯

thats about it

still puts holes in hordes

[olive ember]

how dare you my surge staff on damnation can

tickle the maulers

[fair kayak]

I use Surge on Damnation because im bad

I just CC and let the good players kill everything

[bleak tulip]

I'd rather not play the game than use surge that shit is so fucking dull

[olive ember]

I use Surge on Damnation because I expect the two braincells left in the vet to work

[leaden thunder]

fair enough

[bleak tulip]

trauma can be fun but its still too expensive to use on anything higher than malice, the aoe grows too slowly and you can only aim it about as far as a purg can spray so whats the point, just use purg and keep blasting elites until someone else kills them or they die of boredom after 10 seconds (soulblaze)

[fair kayak]

trauma staff gives me Trauma

[bleak tulip]

void at least feels fun to use, even on damnation, its just a lot slower there

[olive ember]

It stops when it hits an elite iirc

[bleak tulip]

it does stagger most elites tho at least

so it still does something even if it terminates

[olive ember]

idk maybe its just me because I like those stupid mutants dance with surge staff

[bleak tulip]

also does a little damage which is something

[olive ember]

and also flamethrower is kewl

[fair kayak]

I liked voidstaff alot more when BB sucked ass

now that BB is good

I spend a lot more time popping heads

[olive ember]

I tried voidstrike on malice and it just felt kinda annoying to use... I gotta aim and then the stupid mauler blocks the hit, and then they get close and at that point I'd rather use anything but the voidstrike

this was a while back

[bleak tulip]

ive tried all but surge in current patch on heresy and damnation and I still see no reason to change my name, the other staves just arent as fun to me, purg is good but it takes so long to kill shit with it by comparison and the range issue is just not my thing

[olive ember]

Maybe I'll get a new one with good stats but

meh I gotta grind for resources and I barely got a good purge staff, much less a good voidstrike or trauma

[fair kayak]

Voidstrike is without a doubt the most fun staff to use

imho

[bleak tulip]

oh yeah I also dont have a god roll purg yet so theres that problem

have a 378 Surge tho

[olive ember]

This guy didn't try surge staff smh

[leaden thunder]

voidstrike and thne trauma are my favorite two staves

[fair kayak]

what even is a god purg roll

[olive ember]

Max burn Max crit dump stat is damage

[bleak tulip]

fuck if I know, I just dont have one with all the damage stats at 80 is what im saying

[olive ember]

Damage is dump stat on purge

you want everything else as high as can be iirc

[bleak tulip]

is it? afaik the base tick damage is whats actually killing hordes, not soulblaze

[safe crystal]

Max everything but damage, crit and flak perks

[olive ember]

the damage variance is like 9-11 iirc im not sure what burn intensity is tho

if you check the stats

the burn stat is what actually matters on the purge staff

[bleak tulip]

burn is unfortunately just kind of shit in a game where you'd rather kill shit faster than wait for a dot to tick

[bleak tulip]

I mean ill take your word for it I guess

[olive ember]

I mean its not my word tbf its the others

I'm a surge staff main

[bleak tulip]

pretty sure my purg has max burn and it feels pretty weak even on heresy

[olive ember]

as in I've only used purge up to heresy and the other staffs up to malice kekw

well except trauma

CBT there was only the trauma

and yeah

[bleak tulip]

the only upside to tauma is that it has psybolt as well, which you can still cancel

[cyan notch]

damage is good but the variance from min to max is very small

[olive ember]

I mean its not an instant kill obviously but it should burn down horde enemies in a few seconds

and maulers in like 5-10?

[weary idol]

give iiiiiiiiiiin

[olive ember]

about one full charge should kill a mauler with a decent purge on damnation iirc from what I tested in meat grinder

[olive ember]

my second game back was with a revolver psyker

paired with a plasma gun vet, it was an experience I'll tell you that much when the psyker was the one dealing with the shooters

[bleak tulip]

lol

[weary idol]

yeah revolver when your vet isn't killing random shooters sucks

the gun is great for killing elites and specials

anything else?

it's why I just use the recon lasguns

[bleak tulip]

see my problem is that a void can do that too, until the horde spreads out too far

[weary idol]

or like a normal autogun

[leaden thunder]

I am on the revolver grind on my vet and zealot

[bleak tulip]

void does it on approach

[olive ember]

you see thats the thing, the purge can deal with spread out enemies

[weary idol]

ngl purgatus kinda sucks

[leaden thunder]

trying to get a crucian + point blank revolver

[olive ember]

also its just alot more reliable in the thick of things if you are getting screwed from multiple angles

[weary idol]

it's the best at horde clear on a class that already has stupid strong built in horde clear

[bleak tulip]

see thats when you back up with void and gotta play connect the dots

[weary idol]

so like what's the point?

[olive ember]

I don't trust my teammates to provide the cover kek

[bleak tulip]

[olive ember]

Nah the best horde clear is ogryn

have you seen the mk 3 cleaver

its so dumb

[leaden thunder]

best hoard clear is the flamer and purge

[weary idol]

I have seen myself playing psyker and pressing F with 4 warp charges and killing an entire horde instantly

[leaden thunder]

sinec they can kill infinite enemies in the radius

[weary idol]

or well almost killing them

[olive ember]

you want 6 charge to guarantee kill

[weary idol]

don't even need purge to do it

which is why it's questionable

[leaden thunder]

ogryn with a bullbutcher or a zealot with a heavy sword is a close second

[olive ember]

to be fair if you are running AB purge pairs rly well with it

[cyan notch]

hordes have multiple waves

[weary idol]

not really

[olive ember]

since the burn from purge also has the 10% chanc eto generates warp charges

[bleak tulip]

its the only build you should use AB for you mean

[weary idol]

i'd argue running AB kind of invalidates the need for purge

[bleak tulip]

[cyan notch]

sometimes u dont have stacks up sometimes u dont have F up

[weary idol]

if you're using AB you can always just clear a horde with it and not need to use purge?

or you're not in a situation where horde clear particularly matters

[cyan notch]

horde doesnt just appear from one direction too

[weary idol]

and you could just kill them with melee or some other staff

[olive ember]

The way I see it is you use the purge when your F isn't up to generate stacks

and then you press F when you need to quell

perfect cycle of death

and fire

[bleak tulip]

clearing a horde with AB is basically getting carried since your team will kill em faster than the ticks will

kind of the core issue

[leaden thunder]

purge is pretty much unarguably very strong

[weary idol]

your team is not going to kill an entire horde by the time AB kills them

[cyan notch]

also what about those interrogator sections or map finales with never ending hordes what are you gonna do then

[leaden thunder]

just due to the nature of the game

[bleak tulip]

idk I tried using AB and its really fuckin slow

[leaden thunder]

like purge and the flamer can functionally kill infinite enemies

[weary idol]

they'll kill a lot of them with the burn reducing their health

but no way are they killing all of them

and even if they kill them the massively reduced health does mean enemies just die

[bleak tulip]

like yeah youre helping, but you arent "clearing"

[forest coral]

Da heck

Ab will clear out entire horde with 6 stacks

[bleak tulip]

slowly

[weary idol]

isn't that staff psyker in a nutshell?

[bleak tulip]

yes

[forest coral]

Watchu smoking

[weary idol]

helping but not clearing?

[olive ember]

It's actually not that slow tbh

[bleak tulip]

also taking 6 stacks means you lose your best charge generator talent

[olive ember]

https://streamable.com/42tccz

from syllogism

[weary idol]

yeah in my experience 6 stacks is a nice convenience to outright one shot trash mobs

[bleak tulip]

and every second you waste on BBing for stacks you arent blasting shit

[weary idol]

but 4 stacks to bring them down to slivers of health and then just cleave them is more than enough

[forest coral]

Wha

[olive ember]

I mean the purge staff does build stacks by itself if you are running AB

[cyan notch]

very interesting experience

[forest coral]

But wouldn’t ab just make its own stacks with purg

[bleak tulip]

it doesnt do it as fast as the CD of your F

also its still pretty random

[weary idol]

yes, but just using it itself is quite inconsistent

[bleak tulip]

I found it a bit lacking sadly

[weary idol]

I always had better results running it while also using the warp charge on any kill

[olive ember]

This is why I use surge staff

[forest coral]

Wait wait

[fair kayak]

Personally, I only take Warp Battery with Kinetic Barrage

[weary idol]

which means not running the two better talents on that column

[bleak tulip]

I tried running 6 stacks actually getting 6 stacks is a chore without flayer

[forest coral]

Ur seriously telling me kinetic flayer over warp battery

[weary idol]

because the DoT itself having to kill to have a chance to give you a stack is really annoying

[cyan notch]

i completely disagree

[bleak tulip]

I mean yeah

[olive ember]

All you heathens talk about taking lives meanwhile surge staff gang create opportunities

[fair kayak]

Getting 6 stacks is not a problem anymore

[safe crystal]

You roll for a stack if a target has a stack of soul blaze when it dies, not if soul blaze kills it

[fair kayak]

Kinetic Barrage + Warp Battery is the way

[forest coral]

It’s literally not a problem, just run communion if u can’t be arsed to bb or not running purg with ab

[bleak tulip]

warp battery is 6% damage for any other build, the only time its arguably good is AB purg but even then I found it too inconsistent

[weary idol]

has it always worked like that?

[bleak tulip]

and using F before 6 stacks is basically 1/3 damage assist on trash

[weary idol]

was I just unlucky or was it buffed

[safe crystal]

Yes, its worded like shit

Like half the things in the game

[weary idol]

I swear I haven't had it work like that in game though

[olive ember]

Half is generous

[bleak tulip]

maybe i just got unlucky, I only tried it for like two hours the other day

and then went back to void

[weary idol]

off to the psykhanium I guess

[safe crystal]

No need, heres a clip i made earlier

[fair kayak]

Its 8% now AND its an extra 12% warp resistance from Tranquility

[forest coral]

Psykaniun won’t give u proper results. Test in any t4+ match

[bleak tulip]

I did testing on it before the patch and it didnt work really in actual matches

[forest coral]

Because it shines in horde scenarios

[bleak tulip]

maybe they fixed it but I dont know

[weary idol]

okay this is a hot take here since I saw someone mention the warp resistance trait

it kinda sucks ass

I really hate using it

[cyan notch]

dont use it then

[leaden thunder]

aren't you a gunker

[fair kayak]

Kinetic Flayer is no longer as good because you dont need the constant warp charge generation to maintain stacks

[forest coral]

Oh tranquility is ok, but not necessary

[bleak tulip]

can you try getting it to work in a mission? I couldnt when I tested it a month or so ago

[leaden thunder]

you dont need warp res on a gunker

[weary idol]

I also use trauma staff quite frequently

and I dislike using it with that too

[bleak tulip]

psykhanium and actual missions seem to not be 1:1 in multiple ways

[leaden thunder]

I like it alot on truama

[fair kayak]

If you use staffs, you take that trait

[leaden thunder]

makes it easier to just spam

[fair kayak]

if you spam BB you take that trait

[weary idol]

I prefer having the peril gen high on staves too

[fair kayak]

99% of the time you take Tranq

[olive ember]

Tbf you are throwing if you aren’t using warp resist

[weary idol]

to have better toughness regeneration

[fair kayak]

if you you arent using Tranq u are a smoothbrain

[forest coral]

Unless ur going quietitude force swords to be fair

[safe crystal]

Yep, i can. I would need to make a clip when i decide i've had enough of Rimworld for today, though. I get stacks whenever i AB things, then try to get out of a bad spot while killing things with mkV DS

[bleak tulip]

I hope so

because that was a bummer when I tried it and couldnt get it to work

[cyan notch]

skill issue

[bleak tulip]

[brisk panther]

idk which one to use. hard to make a perfect one... the 348 one ive been using since 13th december

[bleak tulip]

oh, does it work when another player kills your burn as the perk says too

that was the other thing

[olive ember]

Meh imo purposely getting extra peril for quietude ain’t worth

[bleak tulip]

thats one thing I never got to work

[brisk panther]

made the 379 today

[cyan notch]

you dont even need to get kills with your burn

[weary idol]

I wish warp siphon stacked like the veteran elite kill feat does

[safe crystal]

I'll test this when my premade comes online. Should have a clip later today, do you want me to DM it to you?

[cyan notch]

other players burning their own shit can give u charges

[echo turtle]

just a reminder siblings you take + 25% more damage while sprinting but 50% less while sliding and dodging

[uneven drift]

I can say for sure that warp flurry is a waste on void

[weary idol]

doesn't psyker take 50% more while sprinting?

and full while slide/dodge?

[bleak tulip]

no I mean there was some not mentioned thing where allegedly anybody killing stuff affected by burn would give yuo the 10% roll, it didnt have to be a burn tick

[brisk panther]

uhm, why?

[bleak tulip]

not just other purgs

now that would be good

[uneven drift]

Because it works only on Trauma.

[bleak tulip]

then I would have no issues taking 6 charge

[brisk panther]

feels to me like its working

[cyan notch]

nothing has to be a burn tick kill

[olive ember]

Warp flurry works on voidstrike iirc

[bleak tulip]

it used to work on void, did that change? it just wasnt good becasue you have to almost spam to get more than one charge of flurry

[olive ember]

It’s surge and purge where it’s broken

[forest coral]

I just find flurry kinda pointless on voidstrike since you can just animation cancel fire

[bleak tulip]

animation cancel fire is shit

is the problem

right click that is

[brisk panther]

i use ani cancel but most often do fully charged balls.

the spam seems kinda useless

[bleak tulip]

left click anim cancel is basically better than right click

[brisk panther]

very situational

[forest coral]

It’s ok at best

[bleak tulip]

one day theyll remove machine gun and ill just stop playing psyker I guess

[brisk panther]

i play to not get into situations where i need to spam

the dmg is bad

[bleak tulip]

at least with bolt cancel I can spam headshots on shit like reapers

[weary idol]

what's up with this psykhanium anyways

[brisk panther]

isnt KB+BB way more efficient? i play with CL too so its 3 bb and they ded

[forest coral]

One Third charge snipes with headshots and flat elevation

KB and Bb is safest way to play

[echo turtle]

yeah

[forest coral]

AB is purely for specialising hard into horde clear roles

[echo turtle]

Not necessarily

you still have bb

[forest coral]

Yes yes, without Kb tho

[bleak tulip]

sure but I can spam bolt infinitely and its not that much faster

[echo turtle]

I only run ab with the fire staff tho

mainly I take it for the regen stnergy

[forest coral]

Like I said, hordeclear

[echo turtle]

you still have Bb and should be using it a lot

aswell as melee

[supple skiff]

sometimes zealots are alright https://prnt.sc/figvxWWioMY1

[forest coral]

But that applies for every psyker build?

[bleak tulip]

idk what "a lot" means but with my interpretation I fundamentally disagree

sure, on elites

especially crushers and bulwarks

on specials its kinda bad

[viral solstice]

ive run a bunch of voidstrike in t5 and i can confirm it strikes voids

[cyan notch]

proof? i dont believe u

[leaden thunder]

he is a crab

[viral solstice]

im sorry but u cannot be shown the voidstrike... u must experience it for urself

u must enter

[forest coral]

Run trauma to give self trauma

[viral solstice]

the voidtrix

[leaden thunder]

that is all the proof you need

[viral solstice]

actually ive been entering the rashadtrix

[cyan notch]

[forest coral]

Show us ur ways crab

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XpmEnUXZ2H-gZ/d1337sYX1UOJ?invite=cr-MSxlYmwsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

ok so this is without bm

the basic idea is

[brisk panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI1Aqk9nkTY high intensity

[viral solstice]

ur getting the axe to hit the top of the head hitbox

it needs to be the top

without brutal momentum this is enough

no look shenanigans required

however

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XpqoUba4qVaUU/d1337z3zD8fd?invite=cr-MSxxR00sMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

my actual rashad has brutal momentum

so what u have to do is kinda skim the hitbox if bm is active

or look at the sky

[bleak tulip]

lmao

nice

[forest coral]

The heck, the damage diff is that much?

[viral solstice]

the first clip

[leaden thunder]

that's what I was doing with my rashad before Igot an antax

[viral solstice]

was a grey axe i was using to test

[cyan notch]

is that limbsplitter

[viral solstice]

i was testing the hitbox with a grey axe just so they didnt die instantly

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XgAEaMKO6HWzB/d1337BOI5xm4?invite=cr-MSx3V1QsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

but theres some cool stuff u can do with it

that first hit on the bulwark there

has a full 60% bonus from thrust

so its an ez 2shot

[leaden thunder]

I long for the rashad to be fixed

[bleak tulip]

I just wish this wasnt such a cumbersome style

[viral solstice]

well its interesting

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[viral solstice]

so i think the idea is

[forest coral]

It just looks funny

[viral solstice]

they wanted it to be an axe where u have to kind of use it like an executioner

[forest coral]

[viral solstice]

like ur striking ACROSS the neck right

so the lights go horizontal

and the heavies go vertical

so even with bm up i can consistently headshot the mauler when he staggers

tho i wouldn't want to

and frankly u can just left click most enemies because the heavies are really just for carapace and unyielding

[bleak tulip]

yknow I just want more weapons that have fuckin combos, not just one semi bugged attack pattern that erroneously does more damage than it should

[leaden thunder]

just imagine this with a fixed rashad

[forest coral]

So like tac axes in general then

[viral solstice]

but look at this unyielding damage on the heavies

[forest coral]

That unyielding

The true boss smasher?

[viral solstice]

it kinda piledrives stuff

[forest coral]

Ye

[vestal rose]

thats silly

i love it

[viral solstice]

if this axe had a second dasmage blessings instead of brutal momentum

[forest coral]

So far I’ve get to find a weapon in practice

[viral solstice]

and i put 25% unyielding on it

[forest coral]

That demolishes unyielding as fast as combat knife does

[viral solstice]

thunder hammer

cos it one bonks everything other than actual bosses

and then the actual bosses u just recoil cancel and bonk them

[forest coral]

For consistent damage the push cancel slashing

Kinda just eats them alive but ye

Hammer too I guess

[viral solstice]

but i mean

u just saw me 2 shot a bulwark in like 1.5s

[forest coral]

Yes

[viral solstice]

even without weakspot hits

its like 3-4 heavies

[forest coral]

Well no sane player has considered rashad at this point for it

[cyan notch]

thats just combat axes

[viral solstice]

dont think an antax w/o unyielding 2-shots a bulwark

[cyan notch]

probably not

[viral solstice]

might be wrong ive never used the antax

[forest coral]

I don’t think it does it even with it

[viral solstice]

because i dont believe in good weapons

[cyan notch]

why would u compare to it without unyielding tho

[ornate hamlet]

Dog howl.
Complete silence.
Suddenly dog appears.

Thanks Fatshark

[cyan notch]

theres not a big difference between rashad and antax and achyls damage tbh

[forest coral]

Just the light attacks kinda making ball the difference

[viral solstice]

i think the rashad is faster heavies no

oh god

yes its so much faster

[forest coral]

[ornate hamlet]

Rashad definitely has way faster attacks

Because it does the same DPS as Antax

[cyan notch]

attack speed is nicer yea

[ornate hamlet]

Even without hitting Weakspots

[forest coral]

Does rashad have same stagger?

[viral solstice]

should do

[forest coral]

Hmm I wanna try this out on my psyker on the weekend

Anyway have fun psykers

[cyan notch]

rashad has worse push attack tho

[viral solstice]

i never use push attack on any weapon

so im ok wiv dat

ok so yeah its 3 heavies to a bulwarks back to kill him

thats pretty nice

[forest coral]

Antax, knife, evis push attacks all pretty goated in their own way

[viral solstice]

sounds sus to me

[forest coral]

Shh

🦀

[ornate hamlet]

On the topic of Warp Flurry

its very good on Void

[forest coral]

I personally just prefer peril transfer + extra dam on 2nd/ 3rd hit. Forgot what that one was called

[ornate hamlet]

Keemo

Its extra damage

On 2nd and 3rd shot

But I'm pretty sure

It only works on primary

[forest coral]

Wait really?

[ornate hamlet]

I don't have it so I can't test

But if you can, do so.

It wouldn't surprise me

[forest coral]

I’m in bed already but this would make me sad lmao

Fatshark vague ass description strikes again

[ornate hamlet]

But Warp Flurry is just such an insane DPS increase tbh

[viral solstice]

ive got t4 warp flurry

and yea

[safe crystal]

I can run a few tests, its sustained salvo, right?

[viral solstice]

its without question the best blessing on voidstrike

[weary idol]

warp flurry best blessing

[viral solstice]

like it just goes FWEEEEP

[weary idol]

wish the game would give me a trauma with it some day

so I can then slam rending shockwave on its 2nd blessing

and thrive

[ornate hamlet]

Have you considered buying a Trauma

[ornate hamlet]

I believe so.

[olive ember]

thought best blessing on voidstrike was transfer peril

and then warp flurry

[ornate hamlet]

It is, definitely.

[viral solstice]

im using this and even with the shonky rolls its pretty spicy

well transfer peril is cool but i mean warp flurry makes the weapon FEEL different

if u see what i mean

[ornate hamlet]

Even if Sustained Salvo did work on Secondary

I'd still prefer Warp Flurry

[viral solstice]

sustained salvo is awful

remember its flat base damage added

doesnt multiply with crits/weakspot hits

its not power like opening slavo

[safe crystal]

Sustained fire*, just a moment

[forest coral]

I have been lied to

[viral solstice]

and ive got like 20 staves with it i can get u the data

[forest coral]

[long wharf]

another patch day come and gone

[safe crystal]

It only works on the secondary if you dont charge at all @forest coral@ornate hamlet

[viral solstice]

yep does nothing

on fully charged shots no diff

[forest coral]

Who tf even makes a blessing like that

[viral solstice]

its from guns

[ornate hamlet]

Lmao

[viral solstice]

its just a gun blessing

[forest coral]

[viral solstice]

assault rifles get it

[ornate hamlet]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XpVL7uwS8iZd4/d1337fSXZVph?invite=cr-MSxFNDMsMTYwMDY1NDYwLA

[worthy crypt]

Which weapons are considered best as Primary (melee) for Psyker? Was trying Dagger, and can understand why is it so useful in terms of surprisingly good defence and mobility, but can't "enjoy" using it... besides Force Sword, are there any good options? Aesthetically I love chainswords, but dunno if they are decent for Psyker... any insights? ❤️

[viral solstice]

depends what u like

[ornate hamlet]

All of the Psyker melees are acceptable.

Dueling Sword is a Knife with less solo DPS and more horde clear.

Antax Combat Axe is great.

[forest coral]

Antax, duelling swords, force sword, cat swords all work well in their own regards

[viral solstice]

duelling sword is spider monkey, force sword can set ppl on fire and bonk people, u could run an antax like a normie, etc

[rich rose]

I've tried everything and prefer the power sword

[viral solstice]

obviously the rashad is the BEST psyker melee but its too op so nobody uses it

[forest coral]

Choose what works for u

And what covers the things ur staff lacks

[worthy crypt]

OK, will read this in some minutes, thanks a lot for the answers 🙂

[forest coral]

https://streamable.com/69xy14

[viral solstice]

got i need to get brutal momentum off this axe

[obtuse crypt]

That switching to staff and mashing the special attack on it cause it's the wrong weapon is something I feel

[edgy hearth]

Whatchu got on that sword

[forest coral]

Haha those moments are like, what am I doing

[safe crystal]

I wish Sour Milk was as generous to my psyker as he is to my vet

[forest coral]

[safe crystal]

I hate power sword though

[forest coral]

Melk clearly thinks u should be using it

[long wharf]

was that fixed today?

that's what the patch notes said, but I thought warp flurry wasn't working on void yet

[near wyvern]

Flurry has veen working with void from day 1

Altho

[long wharf]

not on secondary charge

[near wyvern]

It was a bit bugged before (you had to min charge it)

I dunno if it's proper now

[long wharf]

that clip sure looked promising

I can test it in a little bit myself, I suppose

[near wyvern]

I finally updated the Atheneum to be up to date with live. In addition I added information for Surge and Rending Shockwave, and added BB armour modifiers of bosses.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[idle bay]

Few steam bonus points coming your way.... still have 600k to spend...

[fair kayak]

Are we 100% sure that Warp Flurry isnt working on the Surge staff?

it certainly feels like its working on mine

the buff only seems to apply if you instantly cast the right click, if you charge it up a little and then release, it wont give you a warp flurry stack

[echo turtle]

pretty easy to test

[brisk panther]

@summer prairie thanks for the tip about unarmoured instead of hs dmg, feels way better 🙂 gonna use this from now

[viral solstice]

actually i just realised i was gonna use a 3stam curio on my psyker but never bothered because they were broken

[fair kayak]

I guess what im saying is, I tested it and it works

[viral solstice]

time to swap

[idle bay]

@near wyvern so Cerebral Laceration will buff damage of BB that inflicted it?

[fair kayak]

only if the BB was from Kinetic Flayer apparently

[viral solstice]

tbh i think voidstrike is actually pretty good now

but i think theres a huge diff between a flurry transfer peril one

and a normie one

and that makes me sad

[brisk panther]

no, but the one after

[idle bay]

This thing should be wild when added to the game 🙂

[safe crystal]

The crits are not that great on the combat axes though, its only an added 50 or so damage. Power blessing would still be a lot better with bromentum than this new blessing

[violet fossil]

Can this be salvaged, or are the blessings too cursed?

[safe crystal]

You can always switch out one of the blessings to warp nexus, both of the ones you have there work with the staff, so its a pick your poison sort of situation. Warp nexus is the only one that matters

[still hearth]

Purge is nasty reagrdless.

[long wharf]

run n gun is garbage

hands down

[still hearth]

Yeah Remove RnG

[violet fossil]

That's what I was thinking, at least I can get use out of barrage.

[still hearth]

And Warp Nexus is the only one, since Warp Flurry doesn't even really work it seems.

[safe crystal]

Im cursed with run n gun

[long wharf]

why did you do that?

[safe crystal]

Everything decent has it AND flurry

[long wharf]

you should have kept Terrifying Barrage

[violet fossil]

That

is not me

[long wharf]

oh m y bad

[violet fossil]

I did keep barrage

[long wharf]

ok good

[brisk panther]

what perks should i use on mk5 combat axe?

any specific break points?

[long wharf]

+maniac or +unyielding are good choices

[viral solstice]

thank u emprah

u really do be like that

[shut ether]

I like infested to chop through swaths of em. Manic doesn't feel needed since I can usually melee them to death before they can get a second charge.

[near wyvern]

No but if you proc KF it will increase the damage of one of the two that hit at the same time

[brisk panther]

i have these but unsure which to use and what to reroll 😛

maybe the 367?

[shut ether]

Honestly don't think you need crit on any of those but that could be personal preference.

[brisk panther]

yeah thats why im asking, idk what to reroll it to

[shut ether]

Infested feel great for me

[brisk panther]

was just thinking it might be good as an extra stack with shred

[shut ether]

That's true but I'd rather rely on consistent damage than lucky crits when Psyker has such a low crit chance to start with

[safe crystal]

Flak, maniac, infested. Crits arent great with combat axes.

[brisk panther]

yeah i agree generally, but im not sure what dmg type to go for 😄 generally i like flak but i feel like they die fast anyway

[brisk panther]

thanks gonna try that

also what perks for trauma? ive 25 maniac and 20 carapace atm

[shut ether]

Weakspot damage is also a solid choice for Axe if you want a more general damage profile. Synergyzes nicely with Brutal momentum

I only ever use voidstaff otherwise I'd chime in on that.

[brisk panther]

i use it 90% of games 😄

but made a nice trauma and have no idea what to go for

[safe crystal]

Weakspot damage is a 20 damage increase, as long as you hit weakspots only. A 25% to specific armours give you more damage, but only against that specific armour type (flak and infested are the most common you'll go up against) which is around 60 damage on weakspots, 45 damage on body hits.

[leaden thunder]

weakspot damage is terrible

[viral solstice]

yeah weakspot is not very choice

it and crit damage are basically always the worst choices

other than literal non-damage choices

[summer prairie]

it's +4 damage on antax with the push attack, less than 3%

[viral solstice]

also weakspot and crit damage - finesse damage broadly - loses effect over multiple targets

so weakspot damage is even less effective than it looks if ur hitting several enemies

[safe crystal]

I used the light attacks of mkV caxe as a point, so it varies, of course

[leaden thunder]

iirc crit and weakspot damage don't even add a flat % t othe damage

[summer prairie]

are you using a damage calculator

[leaden thunder]

it's a % increase t othe increases damage

[viral solstice]

indeed

[summer prairie]

lights go from 295 to 302 damage

[leaden thunder]

this is also why precog is mega ass

[safe crystal]

Oh, damn. I didnt use a calculator, and thought it increases on top of the damage

TIL

[leaden thunder]

that's why it so shit yeah

[viral solstice]

precog is troll

because it looks like it should apply 2x to weak spot crits

dear reader, it applies once

its also one of the many reasons surgical is a troll blessing

the longer u aim the more likely u are to hit a weakspot, thus lowering the relative return of the crit

[leaden thunder]

also it doesn't keep the stacks when you shoot

[viral solstice]

indeed