psyker-class

[atomic dagger]

does tough regen only work with coherency or also with the Tier 1 perks?

[fierce sinew]

grim resistance used to do literal nothing

[near gale]

Same for toughness regen speed

[leaden thunder]

iirc it always did something but it was just crap

[fierce sinew]

I still don't really see ever picking corruption resistance on purpose over hp, block/sprint efficiency, even sniper/gunner resist

[pearl delta]

yeah. it was rounded down to almost nothing and it didn't help on the initial pickup damage

[still hearth]

Corruption Resistance is okay if you are doing grim runs

Otherwise its a waste

[atomic dagger]

Is it better to take 3x toughness curio ?
Or should i do 2x toughness, 1x health?

[fierce sinew]

it does something, but not enough of a thing outside of specifically grim runs

and there it's still just okay

[still hearth]

Most of corruption comes from pretty easily dodged sources

[fierce sinew]

Agreege

[still hearth]

Even dogs don't do much if your team is around.

Beast of Nurgle being the biggest issue but that's not even guaranteed

And it can just chase your team instead

Poxwalkers are the most common source but if you're getting regularly hit to get corrupted

You're probably dying before its relevant

[atomic dagger]

Also i feel like there are plenty of medicae stations to get rid of corruption

[fierce sinew]

3x health or 2x health 1x stam if you want to be a speedy boy

[atomic dagger]

no toughness?🤔

[still hearth]

[atomic dagger]

i am not speedy at all
trying to play "tactical"

[still hearth]

There's like a threshold of toughness that makes it "great"

But you need at least 2x for it

And what it does is block one shotgun shot

At full toughness

Theoretically toughness gives you more effective HP, as long as you have toughness up

[atomic dagger]

yeah im a flamy boy and i usally get so many warp charges that i stay at close to 90% toughness all the time ... as long as i kill things

when i do surge... i dont really get dmg at all but thats so boring to play

[fierce sinew]

if you think of effective hp in terms of combinations of enemy attacks you can live hp just comes out ahead because of all the multipliers to toughness damage

[still hearth]

You lose toughness faster

But you can also get back toughness reliably

And 0 toughness doesn't kill you

My idea of it is:
Toughness is better for reliable play, keeping you safe.

HP is better for when shit is going bad.

[atomic dagger]

yeah i feel like going health is passive tank
and going toughness is active tanking

[still hearth]

And shit will always go bad.

Toughness might make me take less chip damage

But I've never died to chip

[near gale]

I do 2 toughness and 1 3 stamina curios on my psyker

[viral solstice]

i do 3 toughness 3 stamina curios

[near gale]

the 3 stamina for block peril, the 2 toughness for well... less chip

[fierce sinew]

I choose between the two just based on optimizing the length of the "things required to kill me" list

[near gale]

Being able to block longer while picking up teammates is clutch

on the horde of poxwalkers

[fierce sinew]

the interaction between stamina and peril block is nice yeah

[atomic dagger]

true, but i feel like when i have to revive more than 1 team mate after a fight, then its gg anyways

[near gale]

It also helps a lot with sprinting

[near gale]

Getting 30% revive speed is so good, when having to pick any amount of teammates up. You are vulnerable for less time and your teammate is up to help that much sooner.

[atomic dagger]

for sprinting i use a weapon with a lot base stamina
when stamina runs out i switch to a weapon with low base stamina so that it recharges faster

[atomic dagger]

we_dont_do_that_here.jpeg

[near gale]

It is nearly 1/3rd of the time less it takes to pick a teammate up with no revive speed

[near gale]

you_dont_do_that_thing_here.jpeg

[atomic dagger]

ye... but i focus on my own survivabiltiy

[near gale]

I do that on all characters

[atomic dagger]

if nobody dies, its a waste stat as well

[near gale]

I do it when I know I normally won't go down

[near gale]

Do you know how often that is with randoms? Even with my friends it people go down, so imagine with randoms instead

[leaden thunder]

tbh

[atomic dagger]

i did a couple of damnation runs, most deaths were by Fatshark

[near gale]

It is more useful* having it and needing it less, than not having it.

[leaden thunder]

most curio perks are ass

so it's mostly to preference

[atomic dagger]

yeah ... i usally dont think "whats the best", more like "whats the least bad one"

[leaden thunder]

I have to run toughness regen on all of mine

[near gale]

I mean my primary option otherwise is either corruption resistance or toughness regen speed at the end of the day...

I have found revive speed helps more than toughness regen speed

I have had SO many times where just a little less time would have saved teammates

[atomic dagger]

true same here, but most of the time its salvagable

[near gale]

It's more salvagable when you have another teammate who can help

and when you don't have to be the last person alive

[atomic dagger]

perhaps i would use revive speed on any other class than psyker

[near gale]

I have ended up as the last person alive WAY too many times not to consider it a vital stat

[leaden thunder]

for my my perfect curios would be either toughness or hp (depending on the class), then toughness regen then another + hp or toughness(depending on the class again)

then a flex slot

[near gale]

and I mean on all characters

[leaden thunder]

that can either be more toughness/hp or something else

[atomic dagger]

well now i have time to think about what to do next

all my plasteel is gone
god damn tech priest junky

[leaden thunder]

I feel that

[near gale]

Do heresy/damnation runs to get more

[atomic dagger]

you guys dont use ability regen?
I use mine on CD

[leaden thunder]

ability regen doesn't give enough imo

if it was a higher % I would tho

[near gale]

Ability regen can be worth it, but, I don't use mine on cd enough to get enough out of it

[atomic dagger]

i used to do that too
but now im not sure if i want to keep grinding my psyker or start a new class

[leaden thunder]

if it was like

25% with all three of them

then i'd use it

[near gale]

Mine are already all level 30, so... :/ Just whoever I feel like playing.

[near gale]

Yeah

We would be stupid not to if it was that

[atomic dagger]

ooof get a life

[near gale]

Make me, varlet

xD

[atomic dagger]

[still hearth]

25% would make Quicken.. still bad.

[near gale]

[still hearth]

You'd get an instant shout back on 6 stacks if curio CDR was 25%

[atomic dagger]

useful? yes/no?

[near gale]

I use the faster brain burst charging

[atomic dagger]

dont you already get a should back if u use the CDR reduction thingy perk with 6 stacks?

[still hearth]

Ghost is nice. Reassuringly Accurate is okay I guess.

[still hearth]

It's 75% at max stacks.

Since it's 12.5 per warp charge.

[atomic dagger]

maybe i will do a pistol psyker
The emperor keeps giving me pistols

i heard pistol were buffed

[atomic dagger]

ah okay, i also have the +4% cd reduction on all my curios.. i guess in the heat of battle it felt like nearly instant (when i used to run that feat with warp battery back in the days)

[west stream]

Is nice for brainburst builds

imo

[digital narwhal]

If only Mobility and Shredder were swapped

[wet jacinth]

Shotgun psyker.

[digital narwhal]

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[digital narwhal]

I wish we had shared resources so I can use my hundreds of thousands of Ogryn Dockets, and my thousands of Plasteel to set up my Psyker

[still hearth]

It's also possible you got the instant ult reset bug

[wet jacinth]

Psyker Ogryn 2 handed Power Force Chain Sword

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[near gale]

Gimme

[atomic dagger]

i feel ya :x

[echo turtle]

another T5, another force sword surge staff psyker. Another scrub dumping lighting into chaff while it’s already being flamed

my favourite part was when he ignored a bunch of shooters to chase down a single reaper already being fought by our ogryn

[olive ember]

Idk if this is a hot take but I wouldn’t change a negative review to positive because they finally managed to finish something that should’ve been in at launch, and came 2 months after they said it would

[olive ember]

Hey that’s me

You are welcome

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1051940189737590845/image.png

[void mural]

There's a good number of people that aren't as jaded as we seem to be in here about fatshark

[olive ember]

Idk it’s like giving a restaurant a bad review and then changing it to good when they serve your main course an hour late

[void mural]

I agree, but there's a lot of people that don't look at the deeper issues of the game and just see the surface level stuff

"Patch good, why no praise?"

[olive ember]

Well that’s enough negativity for now

Let’s all talk about how great the force sword + surge staff combo is

Yes yes 😄

[cold geode]

i like my surge + antax, but thats me

[stuck sinew]

I like my FS + Las Pistol

[forest coral]

All viable

[floral solstice]

i even used to run claw mk4 w/ my surge on hi5 before i got a decent antax

[olive ember]

I’m still waiting for force greatsword

[forest coral]

Decided to revisit knife yesterday as well

[spice veldt]

me 2

wher 2h

[leaden thunder]

I just want any greatsword

rembmer the leaks

[olive ember]

My problem is that with stuff like the knife and antax is that it’s just push attack spam and that gets boring

[leaden thunder]

one of them 100% is a force great sword

[spice veldt]

I will cry if vet gets their power 2h first

[leaden thunder]

the other is almost certianly a power greatsword

[forest coral]

i think same opinion stands which was, wrecks everything except carapace but against hordes, killing is slow unless your team is with you. The push is great

but yeh

2h gs

2h axes

dual wield weapons

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-christopher-nolan-bruce-wayne-batman-where-are-they-gif-5103771

[olive ember]

Wats a good zealot weapon to pair with flamer

[forest coral]

antaxe, evis, hammer, knife

things that can bust open flak or carapace

flamer will do the rest

[olive ember]

Guess I’m going full circle back to the hammer cuz I hate everything else kek

Well not the antax

[leaden thunder]

flamer is broke you can use it with anytihng

[olive ember]

But I’m saving that for the vet

[forest coral]

well if ur one of those people who love to be different

chainsword is viable too

[leaden thunder]

100% one of these is a force greatsword

ain't no way sanctioned isn't one

[forest coral]

Force greatsword psyker

[floral solstice]

yeah pretty much lol

[olive ember]

I want a force spear or halberd

[floral solstice]

thats why i stopped using it ages ago

[leaden thunder]

I also really doubt vet will get the two handed power sword

[floral solstice]

like 1 week after release

[forest coral]

i want spears maan

[leaden thunder]

probably for zealot is my guess

for the two handed p sword

like the evis is great and all but I want a "normal" greatsword

[forest coral]

i want dual daggers or sword dagger back

[leaden thunder]

dual weapons would go hard

[floral solstice]

power sword can roll slaughterer right?

[leaden thunder]

yep

for some reason

[forest coral]

yeah

Power sword can also roll brutal momentum

for some reason

[floral solstice]

i dont see why they would need any other weapon along with antax etc lol tbh

[leaden thunder]

it also has a t4 blessing that increases cleave when you energize it

[floral solstice]

then again fs loves buffing vets for no reason

[olive ember]

I am considering swapping my power sword for an antax on vet

[leaden thunder]

shovel

[forest coral]

if u do that slurp

you'll want stamina regen on curious

vet stamina regen is dogshit

[olive ember]

.o.

[forest coral]

powersword kinda lets you get away with it

[olive ember]

Nvrm I guess I’m goin with shovel

[floral solstice]

next patch: all veteran guns now pierce through bulwarks

[leaden thunder]

unironically I like the shovel on vet even if it isn't the best

it has a nice moveset

[forest coral]

im sad the shovel is kinda trash on vet

[olive ember]

I wish more people tried the Lucius mk 2 now that it got buffed again

I need the hive mind to tell me what to think about it

[leaden thunder]

I want to try for a good one

is good

[olive ember]

Cuz the mk2 with a like a 60% damage roll can one shot head shot normal shooters uncharged

But it’s still slower and jankier than the mk 12 and the sights aren’t to my liking

[forest coral]

and like 2 shot reapers with charged and counter fire right

[olive ember]

But on the other hand it can actually deal with carapace

[forest coral]

• headshot

[olive ember]

Didn’t try but one thing I did try was killing a carapace

[leaden thunder]

the mk3 is really good at that

[olive ember]

Took like 5 shots charged with mk 2 but that’s not actually that bad all things considered

[leaden thunder]

it's like a mini plasma gun

[forest coral]

ive seen lucius vets consistently kill ogryn bois quickly

[olive ember]

Dunno if they using mk 2 or 3

[forest coral]

those that can aim that is

yeah unsure as well

[olive ember]

Cuz mk 3 brings more killing power but it’s overkill against not ogryns

[forest coral]

bullet based problem in general

[olive ember]

Mk 2 is better against 80% of enemies in game but the mk 12 exists

[forest coral]

destroys everything up to the ogryns where its a pain

[olive ember]

So the only thing I think the mk 2 beats is carapace and mutant

[forest coral]

ye

usually as a vet Ill just let the other classes deal with carap

[olive ember]

Idk but most people in vet chat are still gushing about the mk 12, or the auto pistol, or their dogs

[forest coral]

oh

auto pistol is pretty goated atm

[leaden thunder]

tbf

the normal question is

"whats the best lasgun"

[forest coral]

its a shittier br auto but definitely can zoom

[leaden thunder]

and the xii is definitely the easiest to use lasgun that is very effective

the other infantry lasguns are kinda ass

[forest coral]

ye

[leaden thunder]

and the recon las guns

[forest coral]

xii also is kinda awful at clutching with

[leaden thunder]

ho boy

you know the vet is gonna run out of ammo when you see a recon vet

[forest coral]

Recon vets having fun

recon blasting is very entertaining

but ye

[leaden thunder]

mag dumping it into a shield

[forest coral]

well thats different story lol

ive seen all classes dump shit into bulwarks

[leaden thunder]

flamers are bad about that

[spice veldt]

fast fire rate weapons are the worst offender

since they will lock the bulwark in their shielded anim regardless of any stagger you deal

[leaden thunder]

cause I think the shield blocks fire

[forest coral]

i think the saddest thing i witnessed was like a vet can backed into a corner

blasting his br auto away

and then get flattened by crusher

some last stand movie moment

but also kinda dumb, he clearly had grenades and a powersword

[leaden thunder]

I ahve no ill will towards vets

but crushers bonking them

will never not be funny

[forest coral]

senator armstrong shit

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-gif-23761134

[leaden thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-raiden-senator-armstrong-moneyintr-gif-15988527

[wet jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-warhammer40k-spacemarine-armour-laser-gif-17566336

[runic gate]

ZERO?

[lethal plover]

what is this ?

[runic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[fierce sinew]

true min max

with less max

[runic gate]

All or Nothing, so I guess nothing 🙂

[restive slate]

Wow

[regal onyx]

bUt It HaS mObIlItY

[runic gate]

I bought it for memes

[restive slate]

Imagine that crit multiplier tho

[spice veldt]

you're really gonna leave that in your inventory huh

[shy fiber]

Does it deal any damage lmao

[spice veldt]

they should just make damage scale starting from 0

[viral solstice]

still making them still not getting surge

[spice veldt]

i have like 15 transcendent force swords and none of them have a t4 slaughterer yet

[viral solstice]

i still got another 40 blue ones im ready

[spice veldt]

but i do have a t4 precog

[viral solstice]

i just wanna surgeeeee

[spice veldt]

no

[regal onyx]

0 dmg yolo survival build ez

[regal onyx]

That'd take "getting carried" to a whole new level. A weapon that deals no damage but only crits and staggers. whew.

[viral solstice]

that exists its called the accatran

[spice veldt]

pacifist run

[viral solstice]

only without the stagger

[spice veldt]

killing is what bad people do

thou shalt not kill

complete a mission while dodging 3 mutants, 3 trappers, 3 hounds, etc.

[viral solstice]

the mutants knock the hounds off u

thank u mutant

[spice veldt]

:D

[restive slate]

Mutant throws you into o poxburster that blows you off a ledge

[regal onyx]

We call this a pacifist run and those exist in stealth games. Would be hilarious, but you can't have that for assassination missions obviously. 😄

[pearl delta]

terrifying barrage on purge: yay or nay?

[feral verge]

i hear too many conflicting shit about it

i've heard some ppl say its godly

ive heard others say it's useless cuz purga already suppresses

[fierce sinew]

I'm in the latter camp but for what it's worth the non-warp nexus purg blessings are all so low impact it's probably not worth worrying about too much

whatever you happen to have is fine

[forest coral]

I find focused channeling more useful on purg than terrifying but ye

The blessings aren’t as impactful due to that staff being goated already

[olive ember]

If you don’t get hit use terrifying barrage

Focused channeling only worth if you have skill issue

[cyan notch]

when flurry gets fixed id go nexus + flurry

[olive ember]

How many times would you charge in a row without quelling tho

I feel like terrifying barrage would be better since the CC whenever you kill anything would cover you

[shy fiber]

Is there any reason why you'd charge to full with purgatus/surge staves?

[olive ember]

Surge for more damage purge for more burn

[shy fiber]

o really

[olive ember]

Well more burn since the dot falls off and obviously longer burn means more stack buildup and less fall off

[shy fiber]

aye

[hexed wedge]

I love voidstrike. Slowly coming around to the Surge as I realise that the range is further than I thought

[olive ember]

Basically void is general purpose, purge is horde killing, surge is hard stun and trauma is like a hybrid of purge and surge

[restive slate]

Trauma is a Spurge

[forest coral]

Spurge all over the hordes

uwu

[restive slate]

Slaaneshi Psyker

Replace fire and explosion fx with goop and splashes

[shy fiber]

Personally, I like bursting all over the hordes

Yay? Nay?

[stuck sinew]

nay

[shy fiber]

Aye

[rich rose]

No bullet throw will replace a staff for Psyker

[edgy heart]

Thoughts on my build fellow rejects, 121133

[olive ember]

What staff

If you are running purge try 121112

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XjLBqSHdaDxJU/d1337I7wcynU?invite=cr-MSxTNEQsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

inventing shit every day

i suspect force pushing the dog broke his leap state, he went neutral in midair, game said "die ur neutral in midair fall damage time"

[edgy heart]

The lightning and the fire one

[smoky fractal]

so is warp flurry only broken on purge or is it surge too? i cant test cause i dont have one. jw before i go on a farming binge

[olive ember]

121112 for fire 322133 for lightning iirc

[olive ember]

It was “fixed” with surge until someone slapped warp nexus on it at which point it broke again

[smoky fractal]

T_T

[safe crystal]

Nah, he landed partly on top of the box, the same happens in VT2 with some enemies, stormfiends being the most notable when you shout at them and they partly move onto a box, for example. They die because the game is unsure where they are, so it defaults into them dying, im guessing because the default for them is not existing (since they're specials)

[edgy heart]

I really like the build that I sent, what staff do you recommend with it

[safe crystal]

The boxes and anything you can shove them halfway on is the key there

[viral solstice]

o yea ur right its not pathable

so they just suicide

ye dat make sense

[cyan notch]

this doggo went poof too

[olive ember]

I mean the problem is that 121 at the start is stereotypical purge build? But 33 at the end is like stereotypical surge build

[edgy heart]

I see

[olive ember]

Essence drain is only rly good if you are running ascendant blaze as the last perk with a purge staff or you are solely BB’ing

For both trauma and void the 2nd perk is better and surge you choose between 2nd and 3rd perk

Similarly the communion isn’t really needed unless you are going for warp battery and using a skill which gets rid of warp charges (quicken isn’t that good so it’s almost always ascendant blaze)

You would typically benefit more from aura over communion unless you are again running purge build

actually

would be easier to describe synergies if I just posted the builds I use

[spice veldt]

aura is good if you can snipe elites/specials often; whether that's with your melee (such as an activation weapon like the force sword) or Brain Burst (especially with kinetic barrage)

[olive ember]

I'd show you if it didn't take 10 minutes to load into the game >.>

[edgy heart]

With the amount of veterans in pubs i find it hard to bb elites

[olive ember]

still loading

XD

[edgy heart]

Dude I know the loading screens are a pain

[uncut sable]

[olive ember]

those blessings are oof

but then again my purge aint much better

[uncut sable]

wdym it is god tier ad clear

[edgy heart]

I'm constantly switching between characters in vernintidez and here I can't cause the loading screens take 3 business days to load and that's just to go back to character select, then load back in

[olive ember]

actually the entire thing is oof

anyways

This is what I recommend, the top one is my lighting build and the bottom one is what I'd bring for fire

[edgy heart]

I don't like getting rid of my charges, and I don't like blaze stuff much outside of the fire staff

[crystal jolt]

i think kinetic flayer and warp battery can be debated on surge, since if you aren't expending your charges, you can sit and stay at 6 much more consistently, particularly with barrage.

[edgy heart]

But the chance to bb is so nice, especially with fire, cause it basically props off cooldown with all the ticks

[spice veldt]

kinetic flayer is nice if you're lazy or you like to save your kinetic barrage up

[olive ember]

the lightning staff doesn't do much damage, so I run quietitude for consistent toughness regen, if you find yourself killing alot then go for the 2nd perk. For the lvl 10 trait warp resistance is pretty much always chosen. The level 15 trait I run aura since I don't really need that many charges and more ult refund means more venting, and more pushes, the lvl 20 trait peril blocking is just the best in general, and then lvl 25 I run KF for extra damage since I'm running surge but more importantly its my main way of upkeeping warp charges without BB

[forest coral]

I like the damage boost for everything that maintaining 6 can do

Or ascendant blaze it’s too strong to pass up on a purg build

[olive ember]

The fire staff is basically the exact opposite. It revolves around AB, which gives a 10% chance to generate a warp charge, so I run the 1st perk, some peopel run teh 2nd perk. For lvl 10 slot I run warp resist again, for lvl 15 I run communion because AB drains my warp charges, so any amount helps. Peril blocking once again is just best all around. Then I run warp battery at 25 for the 6 stacks. This is mostly because it synergizes with AB at lvl 30. a 6 stack AB will apply enough stacks of burn to kill every trash mob in the game

this means shooters, poxwalkers, the armored grunts

[sharp obsidian]

I like AB but it's impossible to play psyker without KB for me, it just feels so good to use

[dawn crypt]

looking for ogryn friend for penance

[sharp obsidian]

Swapped to it trying to do pick n mix, never looked back

[crystal jolt]

column 4 definitely has the most nothing feats

all kind of interchangable

[rustic quarry]

Levelling a pysker recently and looking ahead it seems like kinetic flayer could be really fun, wanted to ask does it work on all forms of dmg? (Melee/Gun/Staff/Manual BB?) and does it generate peril/have a CD?

[olive ember]

Anyways back to your build the problem with 121133 is that essence drain isn't useful on surge and communion is frankly overkill in terms of charge generation. However, at the same time if you are using a fire staff, you are missing out by bringing KF and KB instead of warp battery and AB since the 6 warp charge AB can kill entire hordes by itself via dot damage (keyword is DOT so it will take time but if you are stuck in cover against a firing squad one F can wipe em out)

[safe crystal]

15 sec CD, no peril generation, gives a warp charge on kill, on all damage

[olive ember]

It doesn't generate peril, its got a 15 second CD, honestly its more of an afterthought sadly

[rustic quarry]

ahh damn that CD is rough.

[olive ember]

its mostly used for warp charge upkeep more than anything else

since most of the time it will just proc on a random poxwalker while you are swinging your sword

when it pops on that mauler tho it is noice

[olive ember]

peril blocking is easily the best trait

[spice veldt]

i hate it when it pops on my force sword special when I want to proc bloodthirsty

[crystal jolt]

its seems like it would work well with wrack and ruin on purge, shame its just omega outclassed by inner tranquility

[forest coral]

Peril blocking is also extremely good with block push style weapons

[olive ember]

imagine using bloodthirsty kek, deflector + slaughterer gang

[forest coral]

Antax, knife, cat swords etc

[crystal jolt]

only really needed on force swords with deflector. I've never needed it with duelling swords

though I don't use the shared weapon stuff

[forest coral]

Try it and never look back

[olive ember]

Its used with pretty much every other weapon psyker has

[spice veldt]

i personally take a +3 stam curio and use kinetic shield instead; i also run the force sword all the time (without Deflector)

[olive ember]

antax psyker is technically "meta" melee

solely because it can spam push attack without a care

[forest coral]

You can literally be a pseudo tank vs plague gryn and daemon host to an extent

[spice veldt]

dodge vs plague ogryn and animation cancel out of your guardbreak against daemonhosts

[crystal jolt]

I mean, I have 1 of each class, so if I wanted to play antax I'd just use it on zealot. Might as well use the psykers unique melee options.

[olive ember]

Psyker uses antax better

[forest coral]

Knife and duelling swords vs monstrosities you can absolutely play a evade tank

With peril block

[olive ember]

psyker uses knife better than zealot actually

[edgy heart]

You can use peril blocking with any melee tbh

[forest coral]

Because of the stamina regen

[olive ember]

yep

[spice veldt]

and safety against guardbreak with KD

[olive ember]

constant push attack spam without any regard for blocking since peril blocking takes care of that for you

[forest coral]

Knifes only problem is it’s slow at killing horde. It controls it but ur group will have to do the cleaving

And carapace

It’s special chop demolishes everything else

[olive ember]

It is solved on both psyker and zealot simply by bringing a flamer tho

psyker has BB for carapace and zealot has armor pen special ability

[forest coral]

Also knife kinda needs mercy killer and lacerate to be cracked

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike will make knife pretty good against carapace

[forest coral]

Or that

[sharp obsidian]

Does slaughterer power increase work with Ascendant Blaze ult?

[spice veldt]

it increases any soulblaze damage that was dealt by you as long as your power buff is up

and i believe that any kills made while holding a weapon with slaughterer will also proc slaughterer, giving you slaughterer stacks; haven't personally tested it

proccing Uncanny Strike will also make your Soulblaze deal decent damage against carapace armor (crushers)

[olive ember]

Heres the real question

Is kinetic shield worse than mind in motion

my opinion is yes

it is trash

[spice veldt]

no

at zero peril with 100 max toughness, it's equivalent to taking a +11 toughness curio

at max peril with 100 max toughness, it's equivalent to taking a +49 toughness curio

[olive ember]

thats only equivalent to one extra shot

[sharp obsidian]

Mind in motion is such a waste, just dodge/slide while quelling

[edgy heart]

Mind in motion is just qol tbh, since with a Staff you barely get slowed down, kinetic shield is where is at

[spice veldt]

better than nothing, and I personally use the force sword so I don't need mind in motion

[edgy heart]

Mind in motion is def a nice thing to have, but not good by any means

[olive ember]

imo the extra speed you get in mind in motion means you are less likely to get hit in all situations, melee, ranged, etc. and therefore worth more than the extra toughness you would get which at best soaks maybe one extra hit

also while staff quelling doesn't slow you that much quelling with mind in motion is still very noticeably quicker

[golden tartan]

Kinetic shield gives u effectively inf stam

[edgy heart]

As long as quell with your staff and not your hands mind in motion barely does anything

[spice veldt]

you prob mean kinetic deflection

[golden tartan]

Er yes that

[olive ember]

Kinetic shield is the extra toughness based on peril

we are debating the two traits that no one should be using cuz why not kek

[sharp obsidian]

if I wasn't running deflector I'd run kinetic shield

[spice veldt]

eh, i think you're most vulnerable while casting, not quelling anyways

and if you run the force sword, mind in motion is sort of redundant

[olive ember]

Nah even if you aren't running FS run deflector

Kinetic shield is a meme

and again I personally think mind in motion would be worth more

the extra move speed opens up alot more than being able to take one more shot

cuz if you really are out of position taking one extra shot won't save you, being able to move faster can and will

[spice veldt]

eh, enemies can catch up unless you're actively running away

enemies like maulers, ragers, and crushers will tail you pretty closely unless you're sprinting

even while you're sprinting without high sprint speed weapons

[olive ember]

Well yes but I'd still prefer even a bit extra distance over one extra shot

[forest coral]

Just run deflector tbh

[spice veldt]

i'd rather just take the risk and dodge them

[olive ember]

and against slower enemies like pox walkers it means you can quickly quell while still creating distance

well yes you always take peril blocking but

[spice veldt]

i just melee if I'm near groaners/poxwalkers

if you really need space, just cast while dodge-sliding

[olive ember]

What if you need to quell real quick for that mutant you hear in the distance

[regal onyx]

So Force Sword + Deflection + Kinetic Deflection = Very gud yes?

[spice veldt]

if you're using the force sword, you only need less than 100% peril to activate it

[olive ember]

Some people say its useless but I like doing that

main perk you want on FS is slaughterer tho

after that deflector (imo) or bloodthirsty

Exorcist is imo a waste

[forest coral]

I’ve had my health bar saved too many times by blocking shotgunners that blindsided team with deflector

It’s not necessary but it’s great utility to have

[spice veldt]

dodge-sliding usually works as long as there are only 2 or less of them

[forest coral]

Like I said, not necessary

Just nice to have

[spice veldt]

i know

hence why i added the qualifier "only 2 or less of them"

[azure goblet]

im breaking down guns for blessings on my psyker, but since i main psyker idk what to do with this Agripinaa that has T4 Deathspitter and T4 Fire Frenzy

[forest coral]

Anyway I’m hoping off, have fun siblings

[rich rose]

Running into the same lol I play my psyker mostly and gathering stuff on that toon

[cyan notch]

[smoky fractal]

what build do you run with lightning staff?

[smoky fractal]

you got a lawnmower, that thing melts without feats

up to you, the gun itself already does good

[restive slate]

Is that Gun Psyker I hear?

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1079940837674323998/image.png

[smoky fractal]

i mean i use it on my zealot and we only have 1 gun perk

and im not using it

[smoky fractal]

hmhm, mim not as good?

as kd?

[azure goblet]

yeah after playing zealot i def realized psyker is better for guns

i mean with full auto u get free brainburst on hit

[olive ember]

mim > ks never said anything about kd kek

[azure goblet]

and i always have bb for longerange single target

[cyan notch]

if you dodge slide u can be mobile while quelling also kd lets you get resses of easy and spam push attacks and not worry about getting guard broken

[smoky fractal]

your screen has kd tho? im confused

[olive ember]

because kd is best perk

in the column

[smoky fractal]

ah

[floral solstice]

another aura-barrage enjoyer, nice

[wise pecan]

is there any reason at all to ever consider using Unstable Power on a force sword? "up to 5% power" as a t4 perk seems so utterly useless that i feel like i have to be missing something

[safe crystal]

It stacks up the same way as warp nexus, up to 20% at 97% peril

[fierce sinew]

you could say the same about several of the non-slaughterer choices

[cyan notch]

wording is shit

its 5% per stack capped at 4stacks

[wise pecan]

ah i see. so it's definitely nowhere even approaching slaughterer in terms of quality, but it's not quite entirely worthless

the wording implies that it varies from 0-5%, rather than 5-20%

[cyan notch]

[brave plume]

There’s a melee blessing linked to toughness in much the same way for wording

But yeah, should say “gains 5% power per stack based on peril, max 4 stacks”

[azure goblet]

such is my life

[twilit flicker]

downloaded the scoreboard and creature spawner mods, they are awesome

scoreboard help you confirm ideas about what went on in the match, and the creature spawner lets you practice fighting stuff, mainly bosses

found out that brain burst is insanely strong, it carries us big time, why fight a boss in melee when you can keep your distance?

you just need great blocking or enough mobility to dodge slide out of the way

[neat summit]

Yep. You get to a monstrosity, whip out BB

[twilit flicker]

will be looking into investing into cooldown reduction for just such scenarios, cant say how practical it will be ...

[azure goblet]

because ur teammates never keep him in melee then they die to his shots so u have to kinetic deflection tank him while clearing horde and reviving them, always without exception

[neat summit]

🙂

The damnation+ experience

[twilit flicker]

what Rhino said earlier is pretty much true, BB gives us so much over damage over the course of a run

[azure goblet]

I've got 4% cooldown on all 3 curios, i do find it to be great

you guys getting rubberbanding enemies today?

[neat summit]

Haven’t played today

[azure goblet]

my internet seems to be working at full speed, 1000 mbps up and down, its just darktide servers i think

infested will surround me and then rubberband back to their spawn, drag me with them across the room

while its happening they keep hitting and my trauma staff registers no hit on them super lame

cuz the aoe gets left behind

[twilit flicker]

its happened to me on quite a few matches but today was good

[wise pecan]

thing is, it doesn't use the stacks language. it just says "gains up to 5% power based on peril"

ah wait that says "should say"

misread

[azure goblet]

should probly say gains up to 20% power

[wise pecan]

yeah

as it is now it's just objectively incorrect about what it does lol

[azure goblet]

guess they didnt wanna excite people with 2-digit numbers

all the ogryns would reroll psyker

[brave plume]

I think mentioning that is 5% stacks up to 20% (max 4 stacks) is the more correct language

[wise pecan]

yeah the most correct way would be to say that you gain a power boost of 5% per stack, with stacks increasing as peril does and capping at 4

[brave plume]

“Up to 20% scaled on peril “ Would certainly be MORE accurate than now though lol

[azure goblet]

yeah and while they're at it give indication of where each threshold is, and a detailed explanation/justification for the last 10% being at 97%+ peril

have u tried keeping over 97% peril on force sword lol

special attack hits, then it starts crashing

[wise pecan]

a fatshark game? giving players accurate, in depth information???? you're gonna accept your psykanium only having 90% of the game's enemies and you're gonna like it

[azure goblet]

careful with all this complaining about descriptions they might just work on descriptions for the next few patches

[brave plume]

To be fair, the weapon stats are FAR more detailed here

[azure goblet]

and be like "next class coming 2026 we fixing descriptions"

[wise pecan]

yeah the weapon stats are as much as i feel is reasonable asking for. plenty of other games are far more vague/less accurate

[brave plume]

Including VT2

[wise pecan]

honestly, i'd even go so far as to suggest that fatshark went above and beyond what is reasonable for the weapon stats, now, which is nice. i can't think of a single other game that actually lists, ingame, what the minimum and maximum potential values for a randomized value (ie weapon damage) are

[shy fiber]

Gotta love games that force you to datamine to understand what a specific mechanic does

[brave plume]

The max is…. Inaccurate…. Though.

But that’s because they left space for adding more levels

[wise pecan]

yeah the decision to cap at 80% is baffling

[brave plume]

Not baffling

Intended

[shy fiber]

I just want more careers

Is that too much to ask

[brave plume]

If we ever get a level cap raise

[wise pecan]

it can be intended and baffling at the same time

[twilit flicker]

ill be happy with anything they add, a new weapon or two, new map

[brave plume]

It does mean the god rolls you have suddenly become mediocre

[twilit flicker]

theorycrafting was talking about blessings

genestealers when?

[shy fiber]

Sanctioned catboys when?

[ornate hamlet]

surge staff secondary lightning, where does it target on enemies?

is it just center of body?

[idle bay]

Warp dust when?

[dawn crypt]

anyone want to do the 90% brain burst penance. i ahve a shield ogryn to return the favor

[neat summit]

Hahahahahahaha

https://tenor.com/view/sadness-sad-hello-emotional-gif-24690800

[twilit flicker]

They do make you wonder whats going on in that second city though. You think its more chaos? I suppose well just have to wait.

[near wyvern]

They should just copy paste the MOBA format for descriptions. "Gain 5/10/15/20 % increased something at A/B/C/D % of peril."

[lusty wave]

Hey guys

Do 6 warp batteries do anything?

[near wyvern]

Damage

[lusty wave]

Yeah but does it make a difference to 4?

[near wyvern]

And with inner tranq reduces peril costs a lot

Depends

[lusty wave]

Like for purge staff

[near wyvern]

And with AB it does

For flames it definitely does make a difference

[lusty wave]

Oh nice cause I do alot of brain burst to get to 6

But I just wanna see if I could get 6 and make a difference

If not just go back to 4

[near wyvern]

If you are running purge you could be running AB and you get stacks by just killing stuff with flames

[lusty wave]

Yeah but I like to brain burst fast with purge staff

Makes it easier since I have no range

[near wyvern]

You either want to take psycinetic's aura and kinetic flayer to "cycle ults" often (spend, get almost instantly back to 4) or then you take warp battery and only use AB as an o sheit button

It works yes

It's a choice

[lusty wave]

That's what I'm running right now actually lol

[near wyvern]

The thing with psyker is you can run many feat sets for many weapons and it all just works

[lusty wave]

True but just wanted to know if it makes a difference if I use 6 warp batteries with purge staff

[near wyvern]

The soulblaze dot damage is increased by the warp charges

Which gets to pretty high values at 6 stacks

[lusty wave]

Nicee I might try it then

[near wyvern]

You can go to psych to test the numbers if you wish

[lusty wave]

I'm doing that right now lol

[near wyvern]

What is even more useful is the inner tranq bonus at 6 stacks

Just flame for days as long as they come in numbers

Psykinetic's Wrath doesn't increase soulblaze damage and wrack and ruin is still bad so there is no reason to not pick inner tranq on purge

[lusty wave]

Ooo okay

[cyan notch]

🤓 erm agcahullally its called warp unleashed now

[fierce sinew]

wtf you're right

[ornate hamlet]

Is cleave important on a duelling sword?

I just got this from the shop

[lethal plover]

if I average my performance I think I do better when I take on the role of horde clearer

[molten sparrow]

Item trading between characters isn't coming right?

[lethal plover]

it really seems that if I can clear the horde and BB the elite gunners / bombers / trappers, my teammates can take care of the rest

[molten sparrow]

Sounds like you're doing all the work

[lethal plover]

trash gunners is not my job and my main weakness

but elite gunners with suppression, well BB doesn't care about suppression

[ornate hamlet]

item trading would make the current crafting acceptable imo

[cold geode]

is the no player deaths contract bugged?

[ornate hamlet]

bugged how

it doesn't count?

[cold geode]

yea

[ornate hamlet]

hmm

i haven't noticed

[cold geode]

hmm

[ornate hamlet]

it just worked for me

i finished the contract onm yvet

[cold geode]

cool

thx

[steel flame]

I gotta say the more I play with the laspistol the more useful I find the force push. It's super good at keeping dogs at arms length and even at knocking them off teammates at range.
Pox bursters are pretty much a non-issue now even in horde scenerios since the force push doesn't care how many enemies there are and will knockdown and kill bursters even through walls and obstacles let alone a horde.

Push knocks over every special and elite other than charging flak ragers and ogryns. Super useful against flamers to stop them before they start and great at interrupting trappers.

Only one thing to really be wary of is the cast time. It's not immediate so can't really be a reaction push like your regular push

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11dum76/best_psyker_builds_for_heresy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

The takes in these threads are wow

[steel flame]

Yeah.....

people fixate too much on my staff of choice is better than your staff of choice and therefore yours is trash

[fierce sinew]

if those people weren't lobotomites they wouldn't be posting on reddit

[steel flame]

You have a fair point

[rocky cedar]

Honestly not as bad as I was expecting

[steel flame]

I on the other hand sit atop my pew pew pistol throne, bemused, looking down upon the stave users as they squabble

[olive ember]

Tell me how you feel when the poxhound and twin mutants screw you

[rocky cedar]

I just saw someone on the forums say power sword is meh and the force sword is the true overpowered god weapon

[steel flame]

Force push go brrrrrrrrr

[rocky cedar]

Honestly nothing in that Reddit thread is as bad as that take

[rocky cedar]

Stand on a box

[restive slate]

As much as I like the force sword... Nah, power sword wins no competition

[shy fiber]

Force sword is for drip

Makes it infinitely better

[restive slate]

It's like comparing a revolver to an assault rifle. You can technically kill with both but practically most would go with assault rifle

[shy fiber]

Revolver is drippy. Infinitely better.

[rocky cedar]

The choice to give power sword slaughterer is still the most head scratching decision in the game for me

[restive slate]

...unless you're a CoD character with 3 guns on you, knife, multiple claymores, grenades and an iPad for airstrikes

[shy fiber]

No no no you don’t understand

[spice veldt]

the choice to make slaughterer a lower duration on the force sword also makes me scratch my head

[shy fiber]

No one would mess with a cowboy with a big iron on their hip

[rocky cedar]

Yeah of all the weapons to get a nerfed version of slaughterer

Force sword??????

[shy fiber]

Lmao

[steel flame]

If they gave the revolver the laspistol force push, then we'd be in business

[restive slate]

If only the veteran would hold it like a cowboy or a commissar instead of 2 handing it safely

[olive ember]

That take where they say you shouldn't take peril deflection

pains me

[shy fiber]

Have fun dying because you’re literally a walking piece of tissue paper

[restive slate]

I wanna force push with a Vraks Mk 3

[rocky cedar]

Do we actually know how much better laspistol push is than the non Psyker special?

I've always been curious

[spice veldt]

i know that it can't stagger a crusher

even at the cost of 10 peril and 2 stamina bars

[restive slate]

Pushes 3 guys though delayed

[steel flame]

Way way way better. It has same force as push, with 10m range and ignores walls

[spice veldt]

:o ignores walls?

[steel flame]

Yessir

[rocky cedar]

So it's like a mini Ult

[steel flame]

Yep

[rocky cedar]

That's pretty poggers

[steel flame]

Pox bursters get styled on from the next zip code

[rocky cedar]

Used to be great for Quietude regen too but sadly laspistol Psyker was just too strong and had to be brought in line

Can it interrupt Ragers?

[steel flame]

Not charging flak ragers on the first push

But the maniac ragers? Yes

[cyan notch]

its weird

doesnt do anything to flak

but maniacs get shoved on their ass

[rocky cedar]

That is odd

[spice veldt]

lapistol for dreg ragers and force sword for flak ragers i guess?

[steel flame]

You can actually kill flak ragers really really fast with laspistol

The crits absolutely melt them

[spice veldt]

rip flak ragers

[restive slate]

Now I wanna make laspistol Psyker...

I wanna make laspistol everyone

Even Ogryn, I'll try it!

[livid maple]

the cosmetics for psyker kind of suck..

[rocky cedar]

The hipfire accuracy buff feels real nice

[restive slate]

The bowl head cosmetic?

[uneven drift]

Toilet seat.

[steel flame]

This is the build I've been using so far. I find the headshot kill toughness Regen blessing on the pistol pretty much mandatory

[ornate hamlet]

Isn't it not weakspot kills but weakspot crit kills

[steel flame]

You right. It's crit kill. But laspistol has base 20% crit chance

[restive slate]

Quietude eh? Despite the nerf?

Oh it's 20? I thought it was 15 wow

[steel flame]

On vet and zealot it's 15, on psyker it's 20

[rocky cedar]

Wait what?

You talking about the base crit chance of laspistol?

[cyan notch]

gl

[steel flame]

Yessir

[steel vapor]

probably wont upgrade it further unless i have a plethora of resources suddenly, weapon is allready bad

[restive slate]

That's it, laspistol Psyker time

[rocky cedar]

It's actually different across classes?

Wild

Is there any other weapon that varies across classes like that?

[steel flame]

Psyker has +5% crit chance across the board

[rocky cedar]

That's Vet though?

@steel flame

From the Royale with Cheese guide

[olive ember]

how dare you

[steel vapor]

it is though :p

[steel flame]

I guess it's 25% on vet

Huh

[rocky cedar]

Intuitively I also feel like it should be Psyker that gets that

[steel flame]

That's what I thought

[rocky cedar]

But this is unfortunately the world we live in

[steel flame]

Of course vet gets +10% crit

Because why not

[rocky cedar]

Vets need to be tenderly coddled

They are special children

[steel flame]

Well anyway. Crit is still 20 on pistol for psyker regardless

[steel egret]

[steel flame]

I still say the push makes it better on psyker than vet

[rocky cedar]

Class the gets unique finesse weapons? Nah give Vet the crit

[regal wedge]

What level do you unlock the purgatus staff?

[spice veldt]

15 or something according to a steam guide i read a month ago

[regal wedge]

Aight

[cyan notch]

yea it is 15

its the last weapon unlock

trust me ive levelled 4 psykers and counting

u can see the levels in brunts armory if you want also

[wise pecan]

Why

[cyan notch]

for more melk blessings lmao

[wise pecan]

Lmao

[vestal bough]

Anyone else get weird dmg with voidstrike? A fully charge on unarmored normally does 450 on mine but every 10th hit or so only does 366

it feels like an negative crit

[wise pecan]

Might be hitting their arms

[vestal bough]

was aming for legs whole time

[wise pecan]

Might be hitting their feet (instead of thighs)

[vestal bough]

oh i see

[olive ember]

Well if its so bad pls give

I'd be very happy to take if off your hands XD

[vestal bough]

oh man hitting the arms really lowers the dmg a lot

missing oneshot breakpoint an damnation

thats bad

[wise pecan]

Yep yep, hands and feet have significant damage mitigation

Thighs and biceps have torso tier mitigation, but sometimes have different health types

[ornate hamlet]

Scab Gunner thighs are unarmored

[wise pecan]

ie I thiiink that scab shooter thighs are actually unarmored

[ornate hamlet]

If you stab them in the crotch it hurts

Its an interesting idea but also

When are you going to aim for thighs

[wise pecan]

Eh it’s a valid strategy

Aiming for thighs gives you torso tier damage without the chance that you hit their hand and have to shoot them again

[ornate hamlet]

What weapon are we considering?

[wise pecan]

It also means you’re not aiming for their head but eh, win some lose some

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11dum76/comment/jabtvx5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

idk why but I make giant walls of texts on reddit lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Oh dear. Purge = Surge.

[olive ember]

but damn the takes there are weird

[meager locust]

I'm curious is its worth keepin this at all but also if %experience might become ever so slightly useful in future

[olive ember]

I mean it is

kekl

[ornate hamlet]

I must purge this ridiculous idea.

[olive ember]

If that makes you seethe

look at the other comments

[ornate hamlet]

Moderately.

But at this point.

I'm mostly beyond it.

People think Shield is fine, as well.

[wise pecan]

It def varies depending on the weapon, yeah. Purgatus dgaf, voidstrike aught to go for the head, kantrael maybe consider thighs

[ornate hamlet]

Kantrael weakspot damage though

Its like nearly 2x iirc.

[olive ember]

Imagine needing to aim

surge staff gang

[ornate hamlet]

I guess on some enemies thighs is good

Well Kantrael also does way too much to the body tbf

Its just a stupid gun

[wise pecan]

Kantrael can generally one shot even without going for the head

At least vs like, shooters, who are its primary prey

[steel vapor]

if i could i would

[olive ember]

once again everyone talks about the mk 12

but no one talks about the lucius

;-;

[wise pecan]

Helbores are actually pretty quietly popular nowadays

Like I rarely hear folks talking about them, but I see them in game a lot

I hate their sights tho, so I don’t use em

[steel vapor]

A lot of people like them for having armor pen that most lasweapons dont have

makes it a solid all-round weapon

[wise pecan]

They really pay the price for their insolence in ammo efficiency, tho

I felt it when I switched from kantrael to try out a good helbore lol

[near wyvern]

No wonder I had the feeling I am doing everything by myself (damnation low intense)

[steel vapor]

i guess there is always a tradeoff, but the lasrifles has infinite ammo so obviously going to having to never worry about ammo to having to think about it is a major change haha - maybe even for the better

[wise pecan]

Maybe, but I do appreciate having the ammo economy of a psyker on my vet :P

[steel vapor]

Is the scoreboard mod good? Janky? Im thinking of trying out mods purely for the scoreboard

[near wyvern]

scoreboard mod is good, also do yourself a favour and get the hub hotkey mods

you never have to move again within the star

[ornate hamlet]

The Scoreboard works but people have noted discrepencies in the actual numbers between different players.

[olive ember]

I'm sorry what

[ornate hamlet]

Not significantly but its probably some server issues.

[olive ember]

hub hotkey mods?

[near wyvern]

yes

[olive ember]

teleportation?>

[ornate hamlet]

Its essential QoL

Just opens the shops from anywhere

They're just menus

[near wyvern]

you can access crafting, shop, melk even psych by just pressing a button

and mission board as well

[olive ember]

,o,

[steel vapor]

probably inevitable if the mod is clientside and there is some ammount of ping involved

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

It gave the same total score but some stats were a bit different.

[olive ember]

My numbers aren't low I swear its the lag

[steel vapor]

am i the only one that doesnt mind running for 10 seconds to get to where i need in the hub?

[near wyvern]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

Come out of mission, go to store, buy stuff, go to hadron, go back to mission select

Or to lab

Then come out of lab, run to mission select.

Repeat ad naseum

[cyan notch]

ratiod

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine all the games I could've played

[steel flame]

When I'm going to get whites to upgrade for blessings I'd rather not run for no reason

[ornate hamlet]

Instead I had to run to Hadron

[steel vapor]

i think the numbers would always skew towards you doing "more" in such a case if it were inaccurate, since the discrepancies would be the mod missing stuff of allies due to ping

[near wyvern]

look at that

[ornate hamlet]

Nice

[near wyvern]

transfer peril into warp nexus and we have a staff

[ornate hamlet]

The LMB staff

Surge on Surge when

[near wyvern]

surge doesn't work on RMG?

*RMB

[steel vapor]

my guess is no

but not sure

[ornate hamlet]

People have said it doesn't

I have not tested it

[near wyvern]

I guess I have to go and find out

[ornate hamlet]

For science

[steel vapor]

i have litterally never seen the blessing before lmao

[near wyvern]

first time for me as well

it was first time today I sow Bloodthirsty as well, it was on Melk but unfortunately wrong sword

[olive ember]

t4 surge as well

hot damn

[near wyvern]

this would be moist on void

[olive ember]

Oh right

[steel flame]

I do not like blassing rarity

[near wyvern]

but unfortunately different pool

[olive ember]

Pygex is a non deflector FS user

disgust

revolt

[near wyvern]

I am a combat blade user

[olive ember]

diesofcringe

[near wyvern]

I don't touch that warp twisted stick

[steel vapor]

if its only on LMB that it activates its actually not all that great, deals an extra bolt every 20 LMB shots or so doesnt sound that insane

[olive ember]

he uses butterknife

[near wyvern]

well my butterknife one taps all trash so...

[steel flame]

I prefer butter axe myself

[steel vapor]

yeah the block attack deals pretty solid deeps

[steel flame]

Still bouncing back and forth between antax and combat knife when I run laspistol.

[near wyvern]

I tried the laspistol

[spice veldt]

force Sword's push attack can do up to 5 dmg if the enemy has brittleness or you have rending; clearly the best one out of this bunch

[near wyvern]

it's so meh

ok single target damage

but WTF is with the special design

it only knocks back dregs and the rest are just like standing in a wind

[steel flame]

You only melt stuff if you are actually getting headshots

[steel vapor]

btw, do we all agree that the quell nerf to melee weapons feels bad and that they should have buffed passive quell of FS instead?

[olive ember]

why use laspistol when autopistol

[near wyvern]

and that is fine

[olive ember]

yes

because I'm a FS user

[steel flame]

Push I find more useful on specials

[olive ember]

honestly tho the takes on reddit that peril blocking is dead are so hilarious tho

[near wyvern]

but it doesn't even stop a running dog

[steel flame]

Its same force as regular push and yes it does

It's got a not huge arc

[wise pecan]

Yeah I haven’t had any issue peril blocking lmao

[steel flame]

So you can aim above and below stuff if your aren't careful

[near wyvern]

it didn't for me

the dog just kept on running and I got the white hit indicator

[steel flame]

That's happened to me sometimes. Most of the time I can stop then dead. Might be because they weren't running at you

Dunno. Could be ping

[near wyvern]

yeah surge doesn't proc on trauma RMB...

[steel flame]

Real Shame

Hmmmmm do enemies have stagger resistance when running?

[olive ember]

just to confirm

CL is bugged and applies to BB as well right

[near wyvern]

CL?

[olive ember]

Cerebral Lacerations

[near wyvern]

it increases BB damage yes

and if you have KF and it happens to proc on the first BB the other BB will have damage increased by CL

[steel egret]

Not a bug I think

It was like that before too.

[near wyvern]

it's always been like that yes

[steel egret]

Yeah.

[olive ember]

i mean at this point who knows

since passive quelling was a bug after all

as was peril block quelling

and FS ranged revive

it might be bad wording too but who knows kek

[summer prairie]

Passive quelling and peril block quelling were both more like oversights.

[olive ember]

Bruh this is in my ogryn store

its only tier 1 ;-;

[stuck shoal]

um

[near wyvern]

tested the lasgun with creature spawner, so the lasgun special does stagger the dog when it is at least focused on you

[idle bay]

Check that green Latrine Shovel - should have high base stats.

[near wyvern]

in game it did not stagger when it was running and focused on someone else

if it's on you you can stagger it when it's running or leaping

[stuck shoal]

is lasgun even good? ive been told to just not use lasguns

no matter the lvl

[near wyvern]

I mean laspistol

sorry

lasgun is the only viable gun at damnation TBH

for a psyker

[idle bay]

Imagine having force push on all ranged weapons as psyker...

[near wyvern]

if you have a veteran in your team you don't really need to pick up ammunition

[stuck shoal]

what about staves?

[near wyvern]

staves are superior to guns

[stuck shoal]

ye i don't use guns as psyker ngl

[near wyvern]

mostly because there is nothing in the feat section to actually support gun play

[steel flame]

Most of the reason I used crit kill toughness regen

[idle bay]

Base kit supports gunplay - warp charges stack provide bonus to guns as well

[steel flame]

Almost all your kills are on crit rolls so it can keep you topped up pretty well

[near wyvern]

warp charges increase your power, that does not count

power increases your damage, cleave and stagger

regardless of what you do

[summer prairie]

it's just +dmg

[idle bay]

More damage on guns = better guns 🙂

[steel flame]

I use quietude so I can pop ult for toughness

[near wyvern]

1.12 * shit damage = still shit damage

when you can shoot a void ball and just kill everything in one go or purge hold in place with infinite cleave

[summer prairie]

16% and +10% elite is not nothing

[idle bay]

Or you can just shoot dead whole spawn of shooters in seconds

[near wyvern]

the buffs on psyker still don't make guns good compared to staves

because guess what, the staves get the same buffs

[steel flame]

Im here saying it's viable, not best in slot. It's a hell of a lot more fun to use than regular psyker

[near wyvern]

it's viable yes

but you can bring more to the table

[steel flame]

It didn't used to be

[near wyvern]

heck I have even done a FS revolver damantion hi

it was not fun

but we cleared it

at the current game design, guns are really just for levelling your psyker to 30

unless you play malice, everything goes there

[steel flame]

I really like how well laspistol pairs with laceration since there is no swap animation for pistol. You can easily kill a bulwark before he puts his shield back up after bb

Melts through reapers in a few shots too

[summer prairie]

4 stack AB poxwalkers https://streamable.com/di4o0e

[cyan notch]

cheat

[steel flame]

Mmmm TOASTY

[steel flame]

Guns aren't for everyone. I still find pistol at least more than viable in damnation but I agree the other guns need more psyker specific oomph to push them into the good section of ranged options

[olive ember]

I mean the thing is if you are going to use guns might as well play vet

[steel flame]

Ah but I don't like playing vet

[idle bay]

'Vet is boring

[olive ember]

I mean if you are good enough everything goes in damnation too to be fair

[steel flame]

Psyker resource management is far more engaging than point and shoot, spam ult vet

[olive ember]

atleast thats what I tell myself when I'm stuck with a plasma gun vet and a revolver psyker

[uneven drift]

with dead plasma gun vet and a revolver psyker*

[steel flame]

To be fair to plasma, I have been seeing a lot more of it in damnation,and it's not been a sorry sight so far

Rather see that then another vet that continues to die over and over reloading his bolter instead of using melee

[uneven drift]

They came play shooter, don't distract them.

[steel flame]

I guess they are used to being murdered in 2 seconds in cod so the floor is normal for them

[wise pecan]

I do always appreciate a good plasma vet. It’s nice to be able to ping something and just know that it’s gonna die, walls be damned

[brisk panther]

i thought so too until i made this thing. fucking awesome

very fast paced and aggressive gameplay. big dodges

[steel vapor]

Have you tested it in 5's hi int? I really want the SMG to be good

[uneven drift]

As anything, this game is about decisions. As far as people understand what they need to do, runs are smooth and easy enough. But then we have zealots who few arenas ahead, vets who don't get out of their scopes, psykers who use revolvers and such, that's bring emotion to the game

[brisk panther]

yep

[summer prairie]

I don't think those dmg numbers are reliable

but yeah

[brisk panther]

i do

[summer prairie]

it shows different values when you compare what diff clients are seeing

i'm not talking about shredder autopistol specifically

[brisk panther]

yep true, we noticed yday

still gives a rough pointer

[wise pecan]

The ammo trinket is a little memorial to the bullets you prodigiously spend

[brisk panther]

😄 😄

100%. i take but i provide (as vet)

[steel vapor]

Pog

[wise pecan]

I think most egregiously it’s shown stats that were impossible? Like grim carry time on a map with no secondaries

[steel vapor]

Does the game differentiate between disablers and specials?

[summer prairie]

I don't so

[wise pecan]

Not in any way I’m aware of

[brisk panther]

its insanely good but changes the synergy of the team abit. a psyker is kinda needed to get those long range BBs on snipers, bombers etc. it very much lives up to its name in short and medium range 😉 i have more fun playing psyker in a squad with vet running shredder

so gotta go PS to bonk around psyker when hes bbing long+ ranged specials

[summer prairie]

Is anything worse than seeing a vet with camo except more vets with camo?

[crystal jolt]

Shieldgryn

[brisk panther]

vet with camo is brainlet, very counterproductive

[crystal jolt]

Or knife zealot that runs ahead

[summer prairie]

I'd rather take 3 shieldgryns

[crystal jolt]

Nah, at least the camo vets can have bolters and kill things

[brisk panther]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-gif-21041319

[feral crater]

Finally got a decentish Purg staff... Time to try it out and see if I actually like the playstyle

[summer prairie]

At least they are trying to help

[brisk panther]

me playing any class with 3 shieldgryns

[crystal jolt]

Shieldgryn planting its shield against 3 scab bruisers then taking 5 minutes to kill them.