psyker-class

[shy fiber]

I try 💀

[echo turtle]

I win less than when I have that buddy on my team

[forest coral]

I declare crab warmaster

[echo turtle]

I mean

[forest coral]

🧎‍♀️

[echo turtle]

i win less when I play with him

[forest coral]

[shy fiber]

Monster Huntah

[forest coral]

did you stalk my steam xD

[echo turtle]

you’re plying T5 as a psyker. You’re going pretty damn good

[shy fiber]

Would you say that Psyker mains are the Charge blade mains of Darktide

Or that they’re the Sword and shield mains of Darktide

[shy fiber]

Zinogre emote

[forest coral]

Hmmm

[echo turtle]

I have no idea what you mean

but yes

[shy fiber]

You know what

[forest coral]

Lets see

Psykers are versatile

[shy fiber]

Veterans are the sword and shield mains of Darktide

[forest coral]

potentially high damage

[shy fiber]

Veterans are the Swiss Army knives of darktide

[forest coral]

but also difficult to play and more ocmplicated

but also more supportive

therefore ill go sns route

but i dunno

[echo turtle]

and the smallest HP pool

[shy fiber]

Lmao

[forest coral]

sns is kinda easier these days

[shy fiber]

I love sword and shield

[echo turtle]

Yall ever read the black legion books?

[viral solstice]

the rashad is one of the axes of all time

[echo turtle]

psykers are loke fuckin Kauyon in that

Straight up murderers

[feral verge]

i will write that down, very insightful

time for crab

[viral solstice]

[forest coral]

Most damnation Psykers ive had are decent

at least they wont do something retarded like run ahead an pull every elite on top of a horde

[shy fiber]

Ikr

I’m the last one to take Medicae

[viral solstice]

my strategy is to go afk for 30s behind the team, get dogged, die, then type "team where r u????" this always works

[shy fiber]

I tend to not take damage which is funny lol

[forest coral]

My experience be like

[echo turtle]

gunker is like a vet with brainburst, flameboi is like a zealot with brainburst. Palpatine bois have brainburst, and a lightning attack.

[shy fiber]

If you’re a Psyker and you’re not a team player you’re doing it wrong

[echo turtle]

thats the same as every class

[shy fiber]

Eh

[echo turtle]

you need to realize exactly what you are good at though, and I didn’t see that until i played other classes more

[spice veldt]

when I get really good games with 3 zealots, my next games are throws because I think my team is with me and they're not

[viral solstice]

on vet if ur a team player u will destroy ur teams cohesion because everybody else is expecting u to be a tunnel vision ammo snorter with the life expectancy of a mayfly

[forest coral]

Psyker= team oriented or gets hit and rage quits
Vet= either godly or cannot melee/ camo die alone
Ogryn= god like players or utterly useless, no inbetween
Zealot= Do well but usually least team oriented and will run off to do their own shit

[viral solstice]

so if u show signs of intelligent life u will destroy their ability to formulate plans

[echo turtle]

If you as the psyker are brain bursting all the bombers, trappers SNIPERS, and crushers and bulwarks

[shy fiber]

MAYFLIES

[echo turtle]

you are the mvp

[shy fiber]

Like

I get that T5 has the most plasteel

BUT WHY CANT MOTHERFUCKERS STICK WITJ THE GROUP

[echo turtle]

Theres no need

[shy fiber]

Is 15 plasteel more important than finishing the mission

[echo turtle]

Yea

[forest coral]

yes

[shy fiber]

Zamn

[echo turtle]

if you need a babysitter

thats on you

[shy fiber]

What no plasteel does to a mofo

[viral solstice]

plastic improtant

[echo turtle]

you fight together, loot and come back together when theres an engagement

[forest coral]

hadron taking all the plastic i can find

to give me a good job sticker

so my gun shoots harder or something

[shy fiber]

Zamn

[forest coral]

i dunno im not a tech priest

[echo turtle]

the psyker should be positioned intelligently, the team looting shouldn’t be a problem for you

[shy fiber]

Ig idk how to do it well then

[echo turtle]

Shift the mindset from blaming them not sticking together for your deaths to, Oh i got downed I wonder what I did wrong

[forest coral]

no, always blame team

[echo turtle]

what could I have done differently? Could I have positioned better?

lol

only time I ever die is if a disabler nets me or something and I get dogpiled by a. horde

or I do something dumb like backdodging into fire

[viral solstice]

theres some really random bug that hits me 1-2 times a game where i just random die i think its something to do with the weird red number on my screen

but i cant put my finger on it

nvm its out of my control

[echo turtle]

bahaha

[viral solstice]

[echo turtle]

Yeah if that is still getting you, shame

[viral solstice]

i mean look

the only thing dangerous enough to kill me

is me

[forest coral]

or just like, dare to spawn in

[echo turtle]

I saw a guy yesterday knock himself down twice in 2 minutes

[viral solstice]

1 suicide every game is a statement of intent

[near wyvern]

If you never explode it means you are not pushing yourself hard enough

[forest coral]

I still blow myself up here and there

[shy fiber]

I wonder how it feels to be a Psyker edging your peril so frequently

[echo turtle]

same

ooose

[echo turtle]

same

[viral solstice]

i try to stay as close to 100 as possible

[shy fiber]

And then when you get over you push it all out lol

[viral solstice]

because im listening to eye of the tiger

[forest coral]

the anime girl voices in your mind becoming closer to reality

[viral solstice]

im walking on the edge

i dont look down

or ill be finished

open up the limit (the limit the LIMIIIIIT)

[shy fiber]

Big E has sanctioned catboys

I WILL FIND THEM

[forest coral]

oh no

[twilit flicker]

Teetering on the edge of madness you cant even hear the banter anymore

[echo turtle]

Cheers siblings, Always Be Bursting

[shy fiber]

Stay bursting sibling

[forest coral]

you will probably hear a voice in your mind say shit like

Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food?

[viral solstice]

[shy fiber]

I use the arrow keys to move

Does that make me a heretic?

[forest coral]

eh, how do u reload and crouch;/ use special

[shy fiber]

My tongue

Idk

[forest coral]

[viral solstice]

i changed my binds to some pretty unhinged shit recently

its been good relearning everything

spacebar for ads, ctrl for jump, right click for dodge, oh baby

[forest coral]

wat

why tho

[viral solstice]

bunch of reasons

[forest coral]

as yes

[viral solstice]

game doesnt have toggle ads

[forest coral]

pincers for hands

oh

[viral solstice]

so holding right click while doing stuff is annoying af

i hate it so i just made it space bar

[shy fiber]

I love hold to ads

I’m a freak

I know

[forest coral]

i use rmb for all my cancelling

[viral solstice]

i grew up playing fps with no ads at all so i dislike it broadly

[forest coral]

so i dont wanna relearn that muscle memory

[viral solstice]

its good for u

feel the neurons dy- uhhh, growing

[forest coral]

carcinizing

[viral solstice]

i change 2 major binds every game now

its all part of the Process

[forest coral]

The only time I rebind stuff is mostly in mmos

[forest coral]

my unhinged inputs be like

[viral solstice]

i actually forgot how to press s while using wasd because in wow i rebound s to a hotbar item

[forest coral]

w+e s+r s+e s+q etc

w+c

yeah.

[pine relic]

Ok, not terrible

[forest coral]

decent

[pine relic]

Wait, purgatus only has four T3 blessings?

[still hearth]

That clearly shows only 3 though

But yeah that seems about right

[pine relic]

yeah, i meant T3

[still hearth]

Purgatus has like what, Run and Gun, Warp Nexus, Warp Flurry and Terrifying Barrage

[pine relic]

Should I get the wrap flurry or just use this T4 Terrifying barrage

[still hearth]

Warp Flurry isn't necessary on Purge imo.

Not only does it charge fast af, you don't need to full charge ever.

Full charging is just to save some peril

It does get a bit more DPS on big targets

I'd rather upgrade Warp Nexus to T4

[pine relic]

I seem someone doing very fast light attacks with purgatus, it's that some kind of trick that I don't know?

[still hearth]

Press R between shots

Macro that

And there you go

[mossy bobcat]

ideal perks for Purgatus? I feel like perks for this staff are barely important

[still hearth]

Unyielding and Maniac/Crit Chance

They're the only targets that don't die from like 6-10 stacks

[mossy bobcat]

I see, so is bathing a boss in flames better dps than brain burst ?

or force sword

[still hearth]

You can do both

Your stacks lasts for 8s

Just burn it to max stacks then swap to BB

For maximum DPS

Bosses take about 240~ DPS from 15 stacks

And BB takes about 3s to fully cast for about 750 damage I think

[pine relic]

Thx

[still hearth]

So you double your DPS if you juggle BB and Soulblaze

[mossy bobcat]

does a full charge purgatus apply maximum stacks if no flames miss ?

[pine relic]

I usually go full purgatus build though, melt everything except crushers

[still hearth]

I haven't tried it specifically but a full charge should be enough, especially if you have the crit chance

[manic halo]

Anyone find the blessing that makes you shoot twice if you get a crit yet

[still hearth]

Yes

Not me but otherw

[floral solstice]

still haven't seen 800

cursed to be 795 forever

[cyan notch]

no u need 2

[still hearth]

Or just crit a lot

[obtuse crypt]

game really wants me to run that soul blaze build

[spice veldt]

i got two t3 blazing spirits when consecrating two force swords to transcendent in a row

[cyan notch]

6 times

[still hearth]

Exactly

Just crit 6 times

[cyan notch]

i think one volley is 9 stacks

so u gotta hit 6/9

[still hearth]

Easy clap

[cyan notch]

67% crit rate

[still hearth]

E a s y c l a p

[cyan notch]

Just Hit Your Shots Lol

[still hearth]

Just crit lmao

[viral solstice]

i mean

ive actually mastered that

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/WGNF023AfdJ0g/d1337vd1cOMs?invite=cr-MSxxUUQsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

this rippergun has 3/5% crit chance

just better

[rocky cedar]

Ahhhh the ripper crit bug

A classic

But now we have can opener bug

Which is way sillier

[spice veldt]

arguably, bullets are more special than stabbing

[rocky cedar]

What it does to crushers currently is not alright

[vestal rose]

gaming

No idea what "Secondary action burning intensity means" but its a neat staff

[spice veldt]

my guess is that it's the interval at which a soulblaze stack is applied to an enemy

[vestal rose]

I'd assume that's "Damage over time application rate", in the burn stat next to how many max stacks it has
burning intensity is on the damage roll, and goes down as damage goes up

maybe it less visual clutter lol
higher your damage roll, the less you blind your teammates (which means damage is a bad stat, you wanna maximise burning your teammates retinas)

[spice veldt]

these naming schemes from fatshark are hurting my head

[pine relic]

80% quell speed is so good.

[viral solstice]

im using this rn and i kinda miss the 80% on my old one

but still its kinda funny feeling like the energiser bunny when yeeting at head height down a c orridor

[summer prairie]

I can either collect 750 plasteel for +600 melk coins or collect 16 grims for +700. Hmm...

[viral solstice]

do both

[north cradle]

I see you are a man of Quake as well

[viral solstice]

old as fuk

spacebar ads is kinda nice tho honestly

[spice veldt]

yeah, holding down right-click throws my aim off slightly

absolutely hate ADS in any and all games

it's why i liked l4d2

[ornate hamlet]

16 grims or scripts

[summer prairie]

ok, still says only grims

[ornate hamlet]

Ye they acknowledged its bugged but I think it said that scripts still count

Typical

Still

One Damnation mission for 600

Or minimum like 6 missions for 700

Balanced

[idle bay]

It's forbidden word in Darktide

[summer prairie]

I wonder if it takes them forever to correct simple descriptions because their localization process is very slow

[viral solstice]

i mean its also because they are guilty of repeatedly being swedish

[cyan notch]

only took em 3 months to change psykinetics wrath

[viral solstice]

to be fair they were on holiday for 2.9 months

pls respect their needs

[spice veldt]

oh shit i just realized that the feat is called warp unleashed now

[viral solstice]

what does it actually apply to ive never checked

just staves and fs?

[spice veldt]

yup

FS normal attacks as well

i use it just cuz and i'm a quietude psyker

[viral solstice]

i use it cos im running voidstrike rashad mk 2. the rashad mk 2 is not a force weapon but i like to imagine its getting a morale boost

[cyan notch]

LOL

[spice veldt]

"you can do it! you can hit a headshot!"

[viral solstice]

no

we dont use that word

respect the rashad culture

[spice veldt]

you're right

[redacted] don't exist anyways

[viral solstice]

this weapon is to me the perfect shitpost

i cant stop using it

[spice veldt]

brutal momentum smh

[viral solstice]

thats what makes it so perfect

[spice veldt]

and you have to look at 'Weak Spot' every time you inspect your weapon

[viral solstice]

also note it has finesse

thank u for squints giving me 0.59 crit and weakspot power

[floral solstice]

dafuq rashad has finesse

that's like a second layer of meme

[ornate hamlet]

Its for the attack speed

Fast swings

[cyan notch]

achlys has a higher heavy crit or somrhing

[spice veldt]

hitting bodyshots faster

[viral solstice]

rashad actually does kinda nice unyielding damage weirdly

which would be great if u could consistently hit weak spots

much too think about

[idle bay]

Thanks the Empra - that Fatshark fetish is Nurgle not a Slaanesh, otherwise there will be a lot of chopping dicks jokes about axes

[ornate hamlet]

But you can.

Just accept the dark teachings, Crab

[viral solstice]

i mean

i know how to do it

i have the science

the problem is the monstrosity models

and availability of the clean swing in an actual fight

[ornate hamlet]

Just do it

MLG gamer

[viral solstice]

yea it really is a skill issue

its ok rn im just an ordinary wizard

💊

time to get rashadpilled

oh my god i can see so clearly i have rashad vision ™️ now

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XgsjJhSYahy17/d1337lpvwAZM?invite=cr-MSx2VTUsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

thank u vanessa

[idle bay]

The most satisfactory chop from any axe is when it kills Mutant

[cyan notch]

the Trauma Aiming Experience™️

[spice veldt]

what are these orange numbers

[viral solstice]

bug i think

reported to fs

[near wyvern]

Yes, definitely looks familiar.

It's just missing the pile of flying body parts

[forest coral]

its just tomato sauce

[viral solstice]

wait

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XgAEaMKO6HWzB/d1337yNpld1v?invite=cr-MSw1aHAsMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

das kinda cool

that swing has the full 60% thrust damage

[neat sand]

I think orange numbers are crit damage ?

[uneven drift]

yellow -- crit, orange -- weakspot.

[spice veldt]

somebody got wooshed

rashad notoriously has a terrible hitbox, so it has a hard time hitting headshots

[neat sand]

There we go was close XD

[chrome kiln]

Guys I have question about staves (from a Surge player) should you fully charge purgatus and voidstrike ? I found by myself it's terrible on Surge but I don't know about the others.

[summer prairie]

BM is silly https://streamable.com/yr3yoe

meanwhile the push attack will damage 3 and scatter them all over

[stuck shoal]

good to keep them away no?

[summer prairie]

it's safe horde clear yes

[vagrant furnace]

highly depends on the situation, if you want to simply stunlock enemies so your teamates do the kill there is no need to charge, but if your intent is to kill better try to charge the most you can

[lethal folio]

BM lightspam is just overall better.

[vagrant furnace]

you can use the staff behind most covers and thru some walls which makes it very good

[rocky cedar]

Wait what on earth is going on there?

[summer prairie]

it's just brutal momentum

[inland sand]

did the fix the Rashad yet or does it still not hit heads?

[viral solstice]

this is unfixed i just have an upgrade where i can see the Rashad Force

[inland sand]

oh i didn't watch the clip I just replied to this because u were talking about the Rashad

so it still never hits heads then?

[viral solstice]

i mean u have to watch to see the true secrets of the rashad unlocked

but u can make it hit heads

in like 3 different ways

but they all involve mental contortions

[inland sand]

hahahaha noted

okay Psyker question, with "sustained fire" on trauma does that allow for repeated secondary charges?

or is this good for primary attacks only?

[near wyvern]

Incorrect, it does hit heads, when it's the only thing that is going to collide with the axe.

[near wyvern]

Primary only

And not good

[inland sand]

thank you!

[near wyvern]

The only staff that could make sustained fire worth it is surge due to the critical bonuses but it can't have the blessing obese megalodon thinking straight

[viral solstice]

Ok I’m beginning to see the Rashad force now

Everything is wireframe

Help

[near wyvern]

This is the reason we have been saying brutal momentum is BiS

The cleave...

[viral solstice]

ogryn shovel has a hard damage limit of 3 targets

even with brutal momentum

why they oppress shovel gamers

[near wyvern]

Says the guy in psyker chat

[viral solstice]

im a psychic ogryn whats wrong with that

[near wyvern]

Welcome to the land of oppression

[spice veldt]

git ur ogryn complaints outta here

[viral solstice]

[spice veldt]

all attacks on the shovel are capped to 3 targets?

[viral solstice]

yep, irrespective of cleave or hitmass changes

[spice veldt]

wheeeeeeew

[viral solstice]

except maybe light 3 that can hit slightly more

thunder hammer is same iirc

cleave system is a mess beacuse u have hidden hardcoded variables like hard target limits and damage distribution past first target

that are totally invisible and cannot be altered

[spice veldt]

very cool

you would hope that they would give you information about it in the weapon inspect screen, even if it's not a scaling stat of the weapon

[viral solstice]

whats dumb tho

is that it is DAMAGE target cap

but not stagger

so in game it looks like u just clapped 20 mobs

but u damaged 3 and staggered all

[spice veldt]

:)

[obtuse crypt]

which perk would you guys change and what to?

[spice veldt]

block eff to maniac or whatever you're having trouble against in melee

or crit chance if you really want to proc blazing spirit

[obtuse crypt]

was thinking about the crit cahnce, would be fun to have more ire for my soul blaxze build

[random wolf]

I'd keep Block Efficiency if you ever plan to put Deflect on that

[near wyvern]

Don't underestimate the importance of staggering a pile of mobs

[viral solstice]

i mean sure stagger is fine but u can get just as much stagger with weapons that actually deal damage

[near wyvern]

Quite many fall off after the 3rd target, but yea trauma, void, purge have infinite cleave with no falloff so as a psyker you should just avoid melee combat as much as possible

[viral solstice]

eg a heavy sword VI which has relentless lights that not only have absurdly good cleave distribution past 3rd target

[near wyvern]

Since you can be so much more effective with the staff

[viral solstice]

but also stagger ridiculously

[fluid knot]

Knife with lacerate stacks with soulblaze though, which is good if you do happen to get cornered after setting a bunch of shit on fire

Skullcrusher also helps to knock em down quick

[viral solstice]

i love how brutal momentum is actively something that makes the rashad harder

what a fuckin weapon

i love it

[near wyvern]

Try limbsplitter on it

[viral solstice]

tbh i think limbsplitter thrust is probably bis

shit would do nasty single hit damage and u just qq cancel it

[fluid knot]

also cancelled on block so be easier an probably faster doing that

[viral solstice]

block has delay on many weapons

like built in

[fluid knot]

Oh it does huh? Interesting

[viral solstice]

yeah some weapons dont but most do

also rashad heavies lock u out of blocking

but i have brutal momentum 4 thrust 4 on this rashad

so we go EXTRA scuffed

[fluid knot]

[lilac tapir]

hey guys, should I get this and upgrade, considering the low(ish) Finesse roll?

[wet jacinth]

373

65% would've been better as a mobility

But it can work

But just rng whether your random blessings and perks can be rolled into good ones

[lilac tapir]

Thanks, I got it.

[regal onyx]

->Not getting the MK V
ngmi
Seriously, though, weapon looks fine. I don't think those handful of Finesse points matter too much.

[wet jacinth]

MkV is overrated imo

Just that the overheads allow easy headshots

And the defences instead of cleave damage

[wise ruin]

so i didnt play for a while what are the perks i should look for in force sword now?

[regal onyx]

Overrated? How dare you?!

[lilac tapir]

This is the first MKV/MKIV that is above 370, I have plenty of oranges and purple with 330-340 so I was quite happy to see 373 one pop on the regular shop.

[wet jacinth]

Finesse affects atk speed so it's a relatively important stat for minmaxing

Crit as well iirc

[regal onyx]

Deflector is great, but only if you can get further Block Efficiency on your weapon or trinkets, otherwise a single salvo eats all your stamina.
@wet jacinth While true, I just don't think those 5 points will make a big difference. Of course, if you can get 380 or close in Finesse and DMG, that's neat. But then you still need penetration, too.

[spice veldt]

From an optimality perspective, slaughterer (+power% on kill) is a must have

oh wait perks

[wet jacinth]

Key word. "Minmax"

[spice veldt]

I'd go for +maniac to deal with mutants and dreg ragers more easily

[wise ruin]

ngl i meant blessings just confused those two so thanks

[wet jacinth]

And earlier I stated the 65% wouldve been better as a mobility roll

It's a dueling sword

[spice veldt]

alongside slaughterer, Uncanny Strike (+rending% self-buff to penetrate armor types), Bloodthirsty (guaranteed crits for 5 seconds on special attack kill), and Deflector would be my options

[wet jacinth]

Happy I even at least have my trash tier 1 deflector

Qwq

qwq

[spice veldt]

i personally don't get too much mileage out of deflector now that I'm dodge-sliding like a maniac, so I'd go for two offensive blessings on my force sword

Unstable Power (+power% based on peril) is another option, but the scaling for it is apparently bonked rn

oh, Exorcist (quell peril% on chained weakspot hit) is another option

So, Slaughter + 'Uncanny Strike'/'Bloodthirsty'/'Deflector'/'Exorcist' (whichever one you prefer. I personally like Bloodthirsty)

[olive ember]

Non deflector FS?

heresy

[obtuse crypt]

just need to find a level 4 shred

[olive ember]

but yeah slaughterer is the main thing you want, and then up to you, tho most people I heard use deflector, then bloodthirsty

[spice veldt]

crits are about +40% damage on FS, so it's like having 3 stacks of a t4 slaughterer on special kill

and penetration against armour types as well

[viral solstice]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/XgDM7pWlBNL6M/d13374IKsqdp?invite=cr-MSxNeWosMTU3ODYzOTYwLA

[spice veldt]

:o

how many attempts did it take

[obtuse crypt]

Deflector is a crutch

[spice veldt]

4 shot headshot is pretty nutty

reminds me of melee combos from killing floor 2

track enemy heads

[viral solstice]

im like 100% with 75% crit rate but its actually very bizarre for a bunch of reasons

for 100% it depends on range

[fluid knot]

rate my brainburst art

[spice veldt]

9.9/10; nothing can ever be perfect

[fluid knot]

Thank you sah

[spice veldt]

i do dream of a more obvious brainburst effect; I'm extremely afraid of brainbursting enemies near daemonhosts

have to squint my teeny tiny eyes to see if I'm about to wipe my team or kill my intended target

[olive ember]

Just have confidence

ez pz

[spice veldt]

just close my eyes

[fluid knot]

If it was more vibrant it would attract more attention from vets though, as they cant resist the glowing heads as it is

[spice veldt]

true

[olive ember]

You take that back

[spice veldt]

there have been instances where there's another enemy, but glowing target makes them target it

[grizzled jasper]

Ngl I done this to psyker as vet

[spice veldt]

maybe a more obvious visual only to the psyker BBing

[fluid knot]

Its literally the slab shield of the psyker

[obtuse crypt]

Never I'll sacrifice any amount of annoying shooters encounters for funny burn sword

[olive ember]

I do it when I'm a vet because "haha do something else shooters is my job"

[obtuse crypt]

Fucks on damnation

[spice veldt]

i like the bzz bzz noise whenever you block with the force sword

[olive ember]

I mean its a slab shield, but without the bad traits of a slab shield kek

[fluid knot]

"Shooters" is the operative here.. not every specialist which can die in one BB and save you both ammo and time

[olive ember]

I mean with the lucius buffs

vet could prob kill everything now

[fluid knot]

Or bolter.. but its not conducive to your ammo pool to do so when others can also do the same job

[spice veldt]

i could be one millesecond from my force sword special killing an enemy and another mf will kill it, blueballing me

[olive ember]

I mean yes, but from my experience shooters are worse than crushers lol

I'd rather have a vet with a lasgun

[spice veldt]

prob depends on the map section and build

i'd prefer a vet with bolter since trauma is good enough for killing shooters

[olive ember]

also counterfire vet lights up all the juicy BB targets for me keke

and bolter vets don't bring counter fire iirc

sorry not counterfire

bio optics,

nvrm

[spice veldt]

bio optics has gotten pretty rare nowadays

people probably figure that grenades are better, esp for a self-sustain build

[obtuse crypt]

I wish infernus would do soulblaze damage for pyskers instead thatd be my Crack wish

[spice veldt]

no shared inventory between classes but also no class-specific blessings on shared weapons :)

[lilac tapir]

Hey guys, quick question - when I earn a blessing that is universal for all 4 staves (such as TB or WN), shouldn't it be available to re-bless on all 4 types of staves? I already earned the TB blessing by sacrificing a Purgatus staff and now it seems it's only available when I'm reblessing Purgatus but not available when reblessing other 3 types of staves...?

[spice veldt]

you would think

but nope, voidstrike, trauma, surge, and purg each count as different weapon families/marks apparently

[lilac tapir]

I see... thanks.

[spice veldt]

even between the voidstrike and trauma, which are both equinox

[olive ember]

I mean peopel should be running bio optics

[lilac tapir]

well... that's underwhelming

[olive ember]

they are trolling if they run demo team imo

and covering fire is also troll kekw

[spice veldt]

tbf, zealot nades are extremely powerful, and vets prob don't want to bet on their teammates carrying bolters/plasma or are psykers

[safe crystal]

I use this when im using the brauto, diving the backline with the melee bois :v Otherwise i use demo team if we have less than 2 psykers

[olive ember]

Demo team is a meme

5% chance on elite kill

[safe crystal]

I'd argue its ok, not bad or the best, but i like it

[olive ember]

I mean if you wanna play what you like then choose wte tbh

but in terms of how good it is I'd say its the worst trait in the tree

[spice veldt]

ah right it was on elite kill

[olive ember]

Basic probability, you have a 95% chance not to get a grenade on elite kill, 0.95^10 = 0.59873693923 via google calculator

meaning that for every 10 elites kills you still have a ~60% chance to not gain a single grenade
Also a reminder that allies have to be in your coherency to benefit from teh effect, so that zealot or ogryn who isn't hugging you might not even be in position to get your aura

[fair kayak]

Are we taking Cerebral Lacerations now for breakpoints?

[safe crystal]

Only important for monstrosities on damnation, not sure about heresy breakpoints

[spice veldt]

for me, taking cerebral lacerations means to give up psykinetic's aura, which isn't worth it

[olive ember]

I personally take aura

or even communion

[fair kayak]

in heresy it lets you 2 shot all the mobs it used to take 3 shots to kill

[spice veldt]

if you want to kill bulwarks in two shots at less than 4 warp charges, then cerebral lacerations is worth it

but i prefer aura, esp since I tend to rack up a lot of elite/special kills

[olive ember]

Aura is better generally due to ability to get a quicker F, means more venting and more CC

[fair kayak]

I have been running Kinetic Barrage and Warp Battery, so the incidental stacks from communion are less valuable

[olive ember]

Warp battery?

[safe crystal]

The grenade refill can also trigger on specialists, its misleading as per usual. Its still not the best trait, but giving lunchboxes to ogryns is always neat

[olive ember]

wait

[spice veldt]

psykinetic aura is the ult cooldown one; communion is the warp charge one

[olive ember]

are you running a purge build?

why warp battery with KB

[spice veldt]

if they're repeatedly ulting off cooldown, you pretty much maintain max stacks

[fair kayak]

So I can spam F on cooldown and keep max stacks all the time

[olive ember]

I mean

I'd run KF

Warp battery aint that useful iirc unless you are specifically running AB purge build

[fair kayak]

5/6 stacks lets you hit some nifty break points

[olive ember]

what are the breakpoints again

ik they buffed BB but

[fair kayak]

thats why I was asking about Cerebral Lacerations

[wet jacinth]

Warp battery became better the moment stacks didnt just all vanish on the cool down

[olive ember]

never rly checked the breakpoitns

I mean so did KF

[safe crystal]

Bulwark dies with 3 stacks 2 BB's, only change on damnation

[wet jacinth]

But idk about the break points it allows you to hit

[fair kayak]

because with 5/6 stacks + Cerebral Lacerations you can kill anything in Heresy with two Brainbursts

and god forbid they throw a monstrosity at you

you can nuke that thing down so hard

[wet jacinth]

Gotta kill it with BB 90% hp

Dumb fucking penance

[fair kayak]

i dont give two shits about penances

but

[olive ember]

before it was 100% kekw

[fair kayak]

sure

[wet jacinth]

90% ain't any better. You still basically need a pre-made team

[olive ember]

well it makes it better for the pre-made team

means if I accidentally tickle it with a burn proc or wte while clearing the horde

it doesn't immediately fail the challenge for someone else

[fair kayak]

but yeah if you havent tried it I highly recommend Warp Battery + Kinetic Barage

if you actually enjoy brainbursting like I do

its a super fun way to play

[safe crystal]

I did malleus on a hi5, had to kite the slug around for 5 minutes while everyone else was having fun

[wet jacinth]

I enjoy BBing. But I'd have to try Warp battery since they made Warp charges disappear 1 at a time now

[olive ember]

I personally run KF cuz thats the only thing I need to maintain charges passively

[spice veldt]

i like to "save" my ult for bulwarks since i can usually use my weapons to kill the other enemies

[fair kayak]

its very easy to maintain 5/6 stacks for the entire map

[olive ember]

also the breakpoints are cool in theory but in a team

your team should be making up the last like 10% damage you dont do

[fair kayak]

my team never gets to hit them lol

[wet jacinth]

Depends if you have a cracked Vet

[olive ember]

they doin something wrong then imo if theres 6 crushers coming at you

[spice veldt]

i once had a vet that actually shot bulwarks whenever my BB staggered them

was great

[wet jacinth]

That uses Helbore/Plasma

I know some vets out there really be going for plasma One shot headshots on crushers

[fair kayak]

your F stagger also scales with number of warp charges

so spamming F with 6 stacks staggers even the big boys

with Psykinetics Aura and some ability cooldown trinkets you can maintain almost 100% uptime on Kinetic Barrage

[olive ember]

I will say I do run surge staff psyker so KF benefits me alot more since extra damage

[wet jacinth]

Sounds neat. But I don't see most psykers playing this way

[olive ember]

It really depends

I've seen revolver psykers so at this point

idek

[spice veldt]

autopistol psykers as well

[wet jacinth]

Gunsykers are different

Vs BB focus psykers

[olive ember]

I mean my second game back was a damnation gun psyker + plasma gun vet

it was an experience

[fringe garden]

Does warp flurry work on purgatus

[olive ember]

don't think so

[wet jacinth]

From what I recall. It doesn't unless that's been fixed

[olive ember]

its a bit weird

cuz it was "fixed" on surge

but then it turned out it was bugged if you had warp nexus

[fringe garden]

Got a decent warp nexus on a purple. Deciding what 2nd to release onto it when I concecrate it

[olive ember]

doesn't really matter on purge anyways, you want warp nexus + terrifying barrage iirc

[wet jacinth]

Idk about terrifying barrage

[fair kayak]

I used to run exclusively Surge Staff, but now im gravitating more towards Void

what blessings are you running on your Voids?

Warp Flurry + Quell on Hit?

[olive ember]

i think the quell blessing and then warp flurry right

not too sure

since ik some people like running blazing spirit or wte

[wet jacinth]

Terrifying barrage is neat but others from what I recall wanted other blessings

[olive ember]

its cuz the fire effect of purge naturally have a suppression effect

so some people say its redundant to have terrifying barrage

but non of the other damn perks work

and idk how useful flurry would be even if it did work

[long wharf]

I disagree

the purge's built-in suppression is dogshit

[viral solstice]

ive run both blazing spirit and warp nexus and flurry / quell they are both cool but flurry quell is objectively way better

surge nexus is objectively the coolest but no surge

[fringe garden]

I mean, less charge up time would be nice

[sly matrix]

should I get just to steal the blessing? Is this the meta blessing for purgatus?

[fringe garden]

I'd say no

Difference between t3 and T4 terrifying barrage isn't great

[wet jacinth]

Terrifying barrages basically guarantees suppression

Vs needing to work to get the suppression without it

[fringe garden]

How close is close

[wet jacinth]

Within the ranges of course.

[sly matrix]

What are the meta blessings for Purgatus?

[wet jacinth]

I would assume within melee ranges give or take

[spice veldt]

i suppose purg doesn't really have any other "must have" blessing besides warp nexus

[wet jacinth]

I know warp nexus. The other is player preference

Because everyone seems to have a different preference on their second blessing for it

[sly matrix]

🤔

[fringe garden]

Not a lot of choices to begin with

And everything except Warp Nexus is some flavor of support

[wet jacinth]

Psykers who like "RunNGun"

[fringe garden]

Lol right

[wet jacinth]

Realistically. If you want to be extremely mobile. That's neat but slides and etc exist.

[spice veldt]

purg has a slight delay on its primary fire when sliding right

[wet jacinth]

Idk

Been a fat minute since I touched the game.

[spice veldt]

last time i used it a few months ago, it had something of that sort

[wet jacinth]

I only looked at my vets guns and blessings since the update and then havent touched it since

[fringe garden]

Flurry seems like the best if it actually works. More time flaming, less time charging

[wet jacinth]

Flurry is alright. But I dont think it's needed either

[echo turtle]

you can still move and shoot without it, it just kicks you oh of sprint. sliding and shooting is better. you haev 50% damage reduction while sliding right? instead of a 50% increased damage taken while sprinting

[wet jacinth]

That's the point.

Just more detailed

[echo turtle]

I haven’t noticed a difference with and without barrage

[wet jacinth]

But correct nonetheless

[echo turtle]

it’s unclear how tf it works

Nexus is what matters

[sly matrix]

wait, sprinting makes you receive more damage?

[echo turtle]

yeah, only for psykers

[sly matrix]

what

[echo turtle]

which is why I laugh when people drop KD for 20% toughness reduction but then sprint into shootinf

yeah it was datamined

i could be wrong, But i an pretty sure I remember right

[sly matrix]

And the 50% dmg resistance while sliding is also only for psykers?

[echo turtle]

thats everyone except zealots

who get 100% damage reduction

oh, ogryn get nothing

I’ll go double check on all that

[sly matrix]

whaaaaaa

[spice veldt]

psykers take 50% toughness damage while sliding and dodging; they take 125% toughness damage while sprinting according to https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2905188402

[sly matrix]

WHAAAA

[echo turtle]

i had it a little wrong

[spice veldt]

the things to remark about is that this applies to both ranged and melee damage, and it only applies to toughness damage (melee bleedthrough is unchanged); and the calculation is apparently complicated so it's not strictly 50% damage or 125% damage taken

[sly matrix]

So Psykers receive +125% dmg while sprinting and veterans receive 200%?

[spice veldt]

125%, not +125%, but yeah

[sly matrix]

and while dodging only zealot receives less dmg?

[spice veldt]

zealot and psyker both take 50% toughness damage when dodging

[fair kayak]

good thing I just hide behind a pillar and dodge slip the whole map

[sly matrix]

veteran and ogryn 100%?

[spice veldt]

yeah, at least according to the steam guide from royale

the 50% toughness dmg reduction when dodging is pretty noticeable against ranged since I like to quell and dodge with my FS sometimes

[cyan notch]

altho he says this

[spice veldt]

royale made a reddit post about this talking about how it's not a strict 200% toughness damage taken thingamajig and whatnot
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/10g9zuk/toughness_damage_taken_calculation_why_zealot/

[fair kayak]

speaking of toughness damage

are we still just stacking % health?

[long wharf]

yep

[fair kayak]

is there any point in + toughness or toughness regen?

im thinking not

[leaden thunder]

toughness regen is good

[fair kayak]

how does it work?

[leaden thunder]

it's just coherency regen but you should be in that most of the time

[sly matrix]

why is %life better than %toughness?

[near wyvern]

If you use kinetic shielding then yes, there is a point.

[fair kayak]

I thought it just reduced the delay before toughness regen kicked in

[leaden thunder]

but it helps you in fire fights

etc

[civic patio]

hey fellas i need help finishing Malleus Monstronum anyone up to help?

[leaden thunder]

it does that and increases speed

[near wyvern]

Because we get so little toughness compared to HP and HP also allows more time for tome corruption to kick in

[spice veldt]

something to remark about is the ranged dmg reduction mechanic

[leaden thunder]

also toughness takes more damage from melee and a lot of things can insta pop it

[spice veldt]

you get something along the lines of an 82.5% ranged dmg reduction to health for a moment when your toughness gets broken

[near wyvern]

10% of 100 is +10, 10% of 150 is 15, not to talk about max toughness per curio is 17% and HP is 21%

[leaden thunder]

so for a class that is squishy and doesn't have as much agency in their regen of the toughness hp is better imo

[fair kayak]

and because on Heresy/Damnation, anything that can break 100 toughness will also trivially break 150 toughness

[leaden thunder]

for like zealot or ogyrn you have options for it

[spice veldt]

of course, I think more toughness is good for poking at ranged

[leaden thunder]

since both can control their regen way more

[spice veldt]

and if you are good at taking only a few hits every so often, then toughness may be better

since psyker's toughness regen feats are actually quite good

[leaden thunder]

a mix of both may also be decent

[long wharf]

read the pinned message

[leaden thunder]

there is a certain preak point for your toughness tanking a whole burst of a shooter

[spice veldt]

i personally run 1 health and 1 toughness

the health is there cuz I like to take pointless risks to get kills and in case I run a grim mission

[sly matrix]

i have 2 health 1 wound because I die

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ops-oops-gif-26751980

[spice veldt]

i also tend to die, but i usually get myself into situations where I can't be revived so I don't bother taking a wound

[long wharf]

running 2 health 1 wound is very reasonable

once you feel "good", swap that wound for stamina

because there's no reason you shouldn't be using Kinetic Deflection, and max stamina is a part of the peril block calculation

[olive ember]

it is?

[long wharf]

yep

[olive ember]

well then

[long wharf]

I use a +3 stamina curio

and have block efficiency on all my curios

I feel very safe blocking, even with the passive quell pausing after hit

not "tank a demonhost" safe like before, but still

between the stamina curios being fixed, and peril resistance from inner tranquility being added to the peril block cost calculation, we can still block very, very well

just not indefinitely

[viral solstice]

i run 3 toughness on every class because i wanna be tuff

🦀

[long wharf]

and the smallest touch of fire ruins you

[viral solstice]

not really a problem

[sly matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[spice veldt]

lmb flamers

[long wharf]

great

[viral solstice]

[spice veldt]

or pray that your ult is up

[viral solstice]

im used to it and used to mitigating it

[spice veldt]

i'd say that you could go without kinetic deflection since it's main use is for weapons with good push-attacks and if you're surrounded such that pushing is ineffective

tbh for my playstyle, i should probably be taking kinetic deflection, but I feel like I get into a bad habit of relying on blocking when I could otherwise push whenever I use it

[long wharf]

it's not for push attacks

kinetic deflection allows you to very easily revive teammates

[spice veldt]

ah yeah that too

[long wharf]

not only is KD amazing, there isn't an alternative that is remotely competitive

[spice veldt]

i've personally got my trauma staff for that

[long wharf]

can't use your trauma staff while picking someone up, though

[spice veldt]

you can blast it to clear groaners/poxwalkers and revive someone

as long as I have enough stamina to tank a few strays that were just outside the radius, I can revive them

[long wharf]

I guess that works

[spice veldt]

yeah; though it gets finicky if you don't have enough stamina

[olive ember]

Alright I found out

[spice veldt]

if my stamina isn't high enough, I have to pray that I have a low enough peril to blast enemies away

[olive ember]

you can't sprint while using the bayonet on the lucius

whats the fucking point

smh

[spice veldt]

pushing poxwalkers away like a pro at 0% stamina

[long wharf]

the bayonet attack animation is all wrong anyways

nobody swings a bayonet'd rifle like sword

[long wharf]

ah yes, the old "pray the horde away" technique

[spice veldt]

very good strat

[viral solstice]

its so weird they gave lucius 3 the chop

like... why

[sterile vale]

Need that bayonet changed to a tactical axe attachment

[sly matrix]

tactical chainsaw

[wet jacinth]

Get this. A Infantry Autogun with a Underbarrel Chainsaw and Lasgun Red dot sight

🤯

[viral solstice]

they better make staff fu better

i wanna bash

[spice veldt]

the only scenario where the staff bash is useful is if you're at 0% stamina and you need to push a poxwalker

but we also have an ult that pushes as well as a 0.5s stamina regen delay

or if you want to bully a poxwalker by staff bashing -> melee push to make them enter their prolonged explosion state

[echo turtle]

I do both health and toughness, right now I tend to take 2 toughness while running warp essence as I have shitloads of regen

But health could be better, it doesn’t matter that much

I also take corruption and grim corruption resist now, prioritizing health and toughness perks on the curios too

[daring cobalt]

I use 2 health and 1 toughness curios

But I think running 3 health is also good

[fair kayak]

Right now ive got 3 curios with Health/Corruption Resist/Ability Cooldown/mOaR hEalTh

[spice veldt]

weak ass lungs; i got stam regen and sprint eff

[daring cobalt]

My curio perks are a mix of more health/toughness stam regen and gunner damage

[fair kayak]

is stam regen good?

I never thought about my stamina

[daring cobalt]

Some ability regen too

[spice veldt]

i don't run kinetic deflection, so i need all the stamina I can get

[daring cobalt]

I like it for heresy and damnation because I block and push attack a lot

[spice veldt]

i also think that melee pushing is a really strong ability

esp with power buffs from slaughterer/unstable power/etc.

[daring cobalt]

It is very good and also the quick attack after pushing

If you use antax 5 axe the push attack is horizontal and easily refreshes brutal momentum in hordes

[fair kayak]

and you need a lot of stam regen to do that?

[vague grotto]

are blessing unlocks account wide? or per character?

[spice veldt]

antax 5 push-attack only damages 3 enemies and deals 0 damage to the rest doesn't it

[still hearth]

Account wide

Per weapon type

[still hearth]

Yes

[daring cobalt]

Not a lot, 1 perk on a curio is good, psykers have high matural@stam regen anyways

[void mural]

How's gun psyker now after the quell nerf? I tried it and imo it sucked. Anyone else figure out a good way to play it, or it just sucks now?

[vague grotto]

going to pick this up from melk for infernus 4

going to be baller on my veteran

[still hearth]

XII Psyker is probably still good

Because XII is busted

[spice veldt]

you only need a nonzero amount of stamina to initiate a push, though the strength of your push is much weaker if it doesn't consume the full amount of stamina needed

[void mural]

Ha, true, but I was enjoying infantry mk1 and HH mk7

And now it feels like shit to play

[daring cobalt]

Toughness regen is an underrated perk for curios too

[still hearth]

I just considered my gun a single target staff with ammo personally

[void mural]

Yeah, toughness regen is nice... too bad I can't get any curios for it!

[still hearth]

The quell isn't that big for me

[void mural]

Yeah, same, but it also means you hardly ever get to BB now

It felt way better when you could BB to max and then swap out gun

It actually provided a legitimately useful playstyle that was actively different from vet being omniscient with his gun

[vague grotto]

for voidstrike staff do i want more damage or blast radius?

[daring cobalt]

Both

Don’t settle

[void mural]

IMO, voidstrike doesn't really have a dump stat

[spice veldt]

blast radius on voidstrike seems to have fairly milquetoast scaling; not sure what breakpoints having damage helps though

[still hearth]

Damage

For better shooter kills

[vague grotto]

which one should i upgrade

[still hearth]

Voidstrike radius is almost entirely stagger

[spice veldt]

epicentre scaling is like from 1.1 to 1.3 or some shit

[still hearth]

I think its 0.5-1.3

[daring cobalt]

I would do the right one

[still hearth]

But 1.3 is still nothing

[vague grotto]

i was thinking the same thing, damage and blast radius are closer to being equal

[daring cobalt]

Still not sure what blessings are best on void

[vague grotto]

this is what i ended up with

[daring cobalt]

I feel like there’s more viable options for it compared to at least surge

[still hearth]

Those

[spice veldt]

whew t4 transfer peril

[still hearth]

Warp Flurry and Transfer peril for sure

[vague grotto]

i got lucky then

[still hearth]

You can have infinite upkeep against hordes basically

[vague grotto]

switch out stamina perk for bonus to a specific special?

[still hearth]

And it's dope with Quietitude

I go Unarmored or Flak

For shooter enemies

[vague grotto]

thank you 🙂

[daring cobalt]

I’m a fan of unarmored

[still hearth]

I'd say unarmored is bettee

If you only get one of the two

Flak shooters have less HP

[daring cobalt]

It’s annoying to not 1 shot shooters

[still hearth]

And sniper is unarmored

[vague grotto]

yes hadron, for once i am pleased

[daring cobalt]

Snipers have like 3 hp anyways

That’s a solid staff, can upgrade the flurry too in the future

[vague grotto]

i thought i had a higher flurry

guess not for voidstrike

[void mural]

Good shit. Upgrade warp flurry if you can IMO

[vague grotto]

will do

[void mural]

Good to know. I hadn't looked at the stat. I guess voidstrike dump stat is blast radius then

[spice veldt]

that's just my bad memory

could be better, but i do recall it being absolutely garbage compared to trauma

[void mural]

I mean, of course, different mechanics

[daring cobalt]

Quell speed isn’t dump but I’d be fine with lower quell if needed

[spice veldt]

radius is also a quadratic scaling value

[void mural]

Yeah, quell speed isn't ever a dump stat anymore imo, but it can be lower than average if you want higher other bars

[daring cobalt]

Right

[void mural]

Honestly, I really wish FS had a quell speed bar now with the quell changes

Along with any force weapons they decide to add in the future

Would make force weapon + gun actually viable

[spice veldt]

quell speed 2h force sword when

[viral solstice]

fs quell would be too op then because of the hang gesture

imagine having good quell on top of the power of that animation

[spice veldt]

nuke sound whenever you quell

permanent hearing debuff for the rest of your life

[daring cobalt]

2h force sword would be tits

Force eviscerator?

[safe crystal]

Is it just me, or is there a lot of camo vets recently on hi5s who die to a group of poxwalkers every 2 minutes? Or am i just very unlucky?

[spice veldt]

i got some pretty good vets lately

i don't want the 2h force sword to be a sticky special weapon

i will cry if it is

i want it to consume peril to deal enhanced damage or some shit

[daring cobalt]

Ooh

[spice veldt]

make a melee weapon synergize with warp absorption

[daring cobalt]

Get this guy in the dev room

[spice veldt]

or if it can take on the exorcist blessing, synergize with quietude

anything

essence harvest can go fuck itself

[viral solstice]

2-handed force sword has moveset of sexecutioner greatsword with finesse to boost headshot damage

and when u power it up it does double weakspot damage and glows really brightly

and blinds all vets in a 10 mile radius

[spice veldt]

and when it hits enemies, it shines even brighter than the power sword

[viral solstice]

every kill it glows more and more brightly until if u have bloom enabled its a permanent flashbang

[untold isle]

what perks are you boys running on the force sword?

i mean

blessings

[ornate hamlet]

I have rampage someone j played with has recharge which means he presses the charge button far less meaning he can just focus on swinging at people

[untold isle]

rampage?

recharge?

[spice veldt]

force sword, not power sword

i personally run bloodthirsty (guaranteed crits for 5s after special kill) and slaughterer

[vague grotto]

i have 60% extra bonus towards getting a curio as a reward and i never get curios...

I NEED CURIOS

[leaden thunder]

sluaghterer is BiS

easily

Bloodthirsty is probably also for dps

but good luck getting it

uncanny might be ok

[untold isle]

hm

so bloodthirsty basically guarantees that your charged attack is a crit

or does it give you 100% crit chance after the attack?

[leaden thunder]

not quite

[spice veldt]

all attacks are crits for 5 seconds

normals and specials

[leaden thunder]

100% for 5 second

[untold isle]

wow

[leaden thunder]

note that crits =/= double damage

idk the crit mode fo psyker

[spice veldt]

crits are about a 40% damage increase on the FS, and they grant some minor armor ignore

[bitter pelican]

Does the crit transfer to other weapons?

[leaden thunder]

probably not

[spice veldt]

no; how dare you expect weapons to synergize with other weapons

[bitter pelican]

:(.

[leaden thunder]

tbf that'd be cracked as fuck

[spice veldt]

bloodthirsty + blazing spirit

one can only dream

[leaden thunder]

like they just fixed point blank working on only the revolver smack

I don't expect many synergies for a while

[untold isle]

its less, just tested

on flak it does 12% more or smth

[spice veldt]

with slaughterer stacks or a base FS

[untold isle]

base

[leaden thunder]

either way sluaghterer + crits is a lot of damage

so that's almost certianly the best for damage

or at least the easiest to just use

[untold isle]

actually maybe not

it might be more

[untold isle]

oh yeah u might be on to something

i still wonder if slaughterer is better than blazing spirit in this case though

[leaden thunder]

it is

[spice veldt]

absolutely, since power increase damage, cleave, and stagger

and it increases the stagger on your pushes as well

[leaden thunder]

slaughterer is like the second best blessing in the game

the first being the heavy sword's headtaker

[spice veldt]

besides heavysword headtaker

[untold isle]

sad, i got a godrolled blazing spirit force sword, guess it won't ever be bis 😦

[leaden thunder]

I mean it's a fun set up

[spice veldt]

not bis, but i'm sure you could get some work out of it

[leaden thunder]

it's probably quite decent

sluaghterre is just busted

[bitter pelican]

Heavysword gets slaughterer too though, no?

[spice veldt]

just that crits will probably kill normal enemies anyways

[leaden thunder]

nope but it's headtaker scales the same as a slaughterer

but it's headtaker so it's on hit

[untold isle]

flak maniac/flak unarmored on FS? any important breakpoints?

[leaden thunder]

flak maniac I think

[spice veldt]

+maniac with the other perk being whatever

+maniac allows a well-rolled FS with psyk's wrath to two-shot a mutant with light-special bodyshots

and is also helpful against dreg ragers

[leaden thunder]

prolly flak

since most things are flak

[spice veldt]

to nuke maulers

i'd personally go for carapace

[untold isle]

also wondering about how important warp resistance is

maybe its a better dump stat

than mobility?

[leaden thunder]

on the fs it's not super important iirc

since it only uses it for the special

[spice veldt]

more warp res = better at killing melee elites

but you prob want to use the force sword as a normal melee weapon most of the time

so warp res ends up being the least important stat

[leaden thunder]

it has unlimited dodges right?

[untold isle]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[spice veldt]

ye

[untold isle]

yes

[leaden thunder]

so an ideal fs is everythign at 80 then 60 mobi

[spice veldt]

here's the mobility scaling

i'd personally go for 80 mobil and 60 warp res

[leaden thunder]

fair, psyker kinda needs to be able to stay on the move to stay alive most the time

[untold isle]

just found this one, thats why im asking

this doenst look half bad either

[spice veldt]

at 60 warp res, it'll cost 21 peril for the activation

[untold isle]

46 is 24

not that huge of a diff

especially as mostly you'll be dancing between 99 and 100 peril anyway i feel

and that point the cost is irrelevant

what is the appeal of the duelling sword btw

i made a really good one

but i just can't see

the damage is just so abysmal

[vague grotto]

didnt even know this was an option until now

[bitter pelican]

I have one with precog and shred. I like it just because it allows me to dance around the battlefield in a way that no other weapon does.

[leaden thunder]

it's fast

idk Idon't much like it either

more of an axe or fs guy

[bitter pelican]

Also let's me proc my BB ability

[untold isle]

wait

duelling sword has shred?

[echo turtle]

Gunker still works, Quell is a lot slower but it gets going well enough. You take cdr and barrage and keep cycling your ult.

[echo turtle]

fish for uncanny strikes. It is actually amazing

[leaden thunder]

instead of precog 100%

[bitter pelican]

The MK2 does at the very least.

[echo turtle]

ye

[leaden thunder]

precog still poop

riposte is actually decent now tho

[echo turtle]

shred resets on push blocks which isnt ideal

[bitter pelican]

I LOVE PRECOG I AM A PRECOG ENJOYER