At least now we have tool to test things properly 🙂
#psyker-class
idle bay
still hearth
Imagine if this was pre nerfs
vestal rose
you have changed my life
this will be my build forever
idle bay
Pre-nerfs there was passive Quell during blocking that could balance incoming peril from blocking
summer prairie
don't forget 6 stacks + 2-2
still hearth
Oh ye
Peril Reduction
I wonder if that works or if its like capped at 1% per each shot
idle bay
Wait wait - peril resistence now works for Kinetic Deflection?
still hearth
Actually
summer prairie
it's not capped and there are fractions
still hearth
Its obviously not capped
Yeah
I'm dumb
Otherwise it'd be over in like 2s
Now add in slide dodges
And you can survive even longer
idle bay
Theoretically can character stay in slide state almost without standing up?
idle bay
And ass wheels Accessory
upper sage
Dipping my toes back into the game, got my Psyker to lvl 15. Any recommendation for perks early on, cause it feels like stuff isn't really going to properly come together till later levels?
viral solstice
tbh just take the stuff that sounds interesting and experiment with as many as ur interested in
so u know what they do if u wanna use dem later
wintry thunder
Dipping my toes back into the game, got my Psyker to lvl 15. Any recommendation ...
as mentioned above, ass wheels accessory
spice veldt
you either have really good speech-to-text or you're a genius
oh wait wyck said it first
stuck shoal
what is purgatus staff good for? hordes?
idle bay
Dipping my toes back into the game, got my Psyker to lvl 15. Any recommendation ...
Serious advice:
- Really take effort to master sliding when faced with shooting enemies - it will dramatically increase your suitability. Enemies will miss you a lot!
- Dodging and blocking. It should be a reflex - you don;t have to think about both, just press by instinct. As for blocking a HIGHLY recommend a decent headset to help you with audio cues for blocking - art some point you''l feel yourself as master swordsman blocking attacks coming for your back.
- Range weapon selection is entirely up to your tastes. Try all staffs , see which fits your liking and playstyle more. Keep and eye on guns too, Vraks MK III Headhunter on Psykers is like cheating 🙂
empty onyx
I'm slightly peeved you have to select the perk to reroll each time now. Why can't we just spam the refine button? 😦
empty onyx
Trying to get 25% Maniac damage on my Purgatus.
idle bay
what is purgatus staff good for? hordes?
And mass stagger regular enemies
idle bay
While blocking team sight greatly 🙂
devout haven
any tipps for pick and mix psyker penance? already trying for a week
idle bay
It does not stagger muties or ragers or ogryns
stuck shoal
ogryns i get
idle bay
It does stagger poxhounds most of time
when they are not in "i don;t give a shit - fatshrk don;t know how to code " state
west stream
ye
hounds ignoring staggers is my bane
waste peril and even the active ability and them jumping is really enjoyable gameplay
idle bay
It still sometimes go into "i teleport through walls to get a player chewed" state
stuck shoal
so would a power sword be a good melee with the purgatus
west stream
surge is nowhere near as good vs hordes
so different roles
surge requires someone else to finish stunned enemies usually to really shine
summer prairie
is that surge+knife
echo turtle
purge and knife
proud mantle
how
echo turtle
Theres a reddit post and a discrod
there is also one to spawn enemies into the grindwr
so you can test weapons into actual fighting
proud mantle
oh do these work cause they're only client side
echo turtle
they work
summer prairie
I guess that was too many lesser enemies for surge, looked a lot like my surge+knife otherwise
near wyvern
oh do these work cause they're only client side
Yes, the mods have access to pretty powerful API (they can even make a purchase on your behalf), the only rule is they are not allowed to modify the experience of other players and that Fatshark will take no responsibility if you get F'ed by any mod (sells all your stuff, spends all your aquillas etc.)
leaden thunder
if you don't have a better one it's ok
proven widget
i dont, not been having much luck in the shop for staves
spice veldt
good enough and the cloud radius is also good enough
shy fiber
Does purgatus burn count as soulblaze?
spice veldt
purg has infinite cleave and its damage is pretty decent against anything that's not a carapace, so cloud radius (range/width) is really the only thing that matters
still hearth
Purgatus burn is soulblaze, yes.
spice veldt
rare moment of a psyker weapon synergizing with their feats
proven widget
thats why i decided to go with puragtus, cause the feats
still hearth
Yeah it is great
AB is such an insane synergy with Purge
You can use it to instantly delete hordes
Or stack on a boss and then do more damage after you shout
Since AB doesn't have the cap of the staff
shy fiber
What perks are recommended for it?
still hearth
Unyielding and Flak or Maniac damage. Crit is also okay since you get double stacks.
neat sand
I was just looking that that mod, now I really want it XD
shy fiber
Unyielding and Flak or Maniac damage. Crit is also okay since you get double sta...
Double stack of soulblaze on Crit?
shy fiber
That sounds so fun
I also want to make an auto pistol kinetic flayer build
Idk how viable that’d be, but everybody’s been raving about how good the auto pistol is now
still hearth
Autopistol good
Flayer
I don't like
It's nice as a QoL thing
Not great as a DPS thing
shy fiber
Aye
thorny crypt
https://i.imgur.com/CQUJLjW.png
no
vestal rose
Did anything change with shotgunners? They make me wanna die more than usual lately
shy fiber
Did anything change with shotgunners? They make me wanna die more than usual lat...
I noticed that too lol
They seem to destroy my shield much faster than gunners at medium range
vestal rose
I had one just walk up silently in a horde and kill me from near full health after having my shield broken by a shooter and im a lil sad about it
still hearth
They've always been like that
Sometimes shotgunners just say omae wa mo shindeiru
And you go "huh?"
spice veldt
got instantly downed from half HP when two shotgunners blessed me with their presence
tbf I thought I was built different and ran straight into a shooter squad, but they caught me in between my dodge slides
north cradle
All-psyker game was fun
I don't know if Clea is bugged there because I did not hear any Veteran lines
north cradle
Heresy yeh
still hearth
Damn that's still so tiny for Heresy
north cradle
Wait I'm not a Sharpshooter either I was playing on my Psyker
still hearth
Damnation is really the way to go
summer prairie
also kind of doubt you dealt more overkill damage than regular damage
nocturne badge
gotta reroll the sprint efficiency for something
crit or carapace damage me thinks
shy fiber
How easy is it triggering riposte?
nocturne badge
space wizardry
spice veldt
i guess they figured that psyker was a little too twinky without a buff to his class melee
north cradle
also kind of doubt you dealt more overkill damage than regular damage
If it's tracking my last game with my Veteran Sharpshooter, maybe? I do a lot of Volley Fire because I kill a lot of shooters, and of course, Power Sword against hordes
spice veldt
our arms are too weak to use something like the eviscerator, but i guess we got really good legs
north cradle
Good enough legs to dodge infinitely yeh
spice veldt
not totally unreasonable
if I had crit from bloodthirsty on every melee kill, i'd probably do a shit ton of overkill damage
wise pecan
If it's tracking my last game with my Veteran Sharpshooter, maybe? I do a lot of...
Ehhh, I don’t think psword does that much damage
spice veldt
gaze upon my elite kills with a bloodthirsty + slaughterer force sword
this was on hab dreyko, the claustrophobic map
north cradle
our arms are too weak to use something like the eviscerator, but i guess we got ...
Made this in three minutes
worn cypress
gaze upon my elite kills with a bloodthirsty + slaughterer force sword
oh I didnt even realize you can get bloodthirsty on fs. have never ran into one before
worn cypress
yeah I'd love a new force melee wep
shy fiber
Damn
north cradle
Me want melta gun and Force Zweihander
shy fiber
I wonder what kind of force staves they could add in
Or they could wait until a new career or something and add career-specific staves
azure goblet
So i've got a T3 Warp Nexus earned for Trauma staff, not sure if I earn the Surge and put it on the left staff, or earn the Blazing Spirit and put it on the right staff (latter choice would allow me to swap Blazing Spirit for Warp Nexus later, to match with the FS builds accordingly)
quell speed seems to be a bit more useful than blast radius, if that helps
what do you guys think? im like paralyzed by this decision lol
spice veldt
i love it
spice veldt
So i've got a T3 Warp Nexus earned for Trauma staff, not sure if I earn the Surg...
blessings between different staffs are not shared btw
oh wait
nvm
azure goblet
yeah its just got a void skin on one
spice veldt
i saw 'surge' in your comment and got confuzzled
azure goblet
oh gotcha... yeah, talkin about Surge blessing
spice veldt
i'd personally earn the surge on the right staff just cuz, but I wouldn't tinker with the left surge for the novelty of having a warp nexus + blazing spirit (though I'd earn blazing spirit if you get a better staff or whatever for it)
whaddya mean swapping blazing spirit for warp nexus to match with the force sword?
azure goblet
the question is, would blazing spirit+warp nexus be better than blazing spirit+surge? cuz w/surge you crit less, but the aoe puts 6 burning stacks on everything when it does crit so it clears a whole horde in 1 crit instead of damaging them all and scattering them
spice veldt
ah, surge only works on LMB
not RMB
did you think that a t4 blessing would be good?
azure goblet
and if i keep the Surge on the right staff, then i can swap between blazing spirit and warp nexus later, so i can run either a soulblaze build or slaughterer pure dmg build depending on which sword i pair it with
w8 what?
spice veldt
warp nexus would prob make blazing spirit proc much more often than with surge
azure goblet
idk @cyan notch mentioned Surge does double dmg on Trauma staff, just not double animation
which should theoretically apply 6 burning stacks instead of 3
only way for me to confirm is to earn the blessing from left staff, destroying the staff lol
spice veldt
hmm
you could slap a warp nexus on the right trauma staff to test the surge
go into meatgrinder and see if it does double damage
from what i've been hearing, it only works on LMB
azure goblet
i mean true, just wont know if it applies 6 burn stacks
might as well start with that i guess
summer prairie
warpfire_on_crits_ranged seems to have max_stacks of 6. If that's not overriden somewhere, it's trash
wintry thunder
So i've got a T3 Warp Nexus earned for Trauma staff, not sure if I earn the Surg...
Both are good, I would hang on to them until you roll another with higher base mod and same blessing.
still hearth
6 stacks is okay for horde clear.
That's the amount that will always kill infested.
azure goblet
i mean 6 stacks kills infested, unarmoured and flak on damnation
still hearth
On Voidstrike I'd say that's an okay thing.
On Trauma though. Nah.
Though I'd still prefer Transafer Peril and Warp Flurry on Void
But at least its not useless.
azure goblet
it would kill all the guys who take 12 damage from the massive aoe that barely hits splash dmg
leaden thunder
imagine if it just applied like 1 stack of soulblaze with no crit requirement
how spicy would that be
azure goblet
thats basically a useless blessing imo then
still hearth
Why do all staff blessings have to be so weird
azure goblet
will earn it and move on loool
summer prairie
if only you could get surge on Surge, would be very good
azure goblet
yarly
summer prairie
even left click only
still hearth
Would it
still hearth
I guess
summer prairie
if you quell cancel lmb it's a machine gun, though without macro it's iffy
azure goblet
~900 dmg per primary fire on surge staff would be good yes
spice veldt
i don't get why they decided not to put crit blessings on the surge staff'
rare furnace
Seems upgradable
crystal jolt
hope for a good second blessing
rocky cedar
Not for Trauma
It'd still let you effectively run AB with trauma if you like
Haven't tested that blessing does it only apply to the inner circle or to everything in the stagger radius?
still hearth
Well
Since it only works on the primary
Oh no wait
That was for Surge
Yeah I guess 10% chance to get a charge is nice
Though I think it wont apply if you kill things with the crit
azure goblet
it applies to everything in stagger radius, and is giving 10% chance for warp charge on burning targets i kill, even if i kill it with staff damage directly
that i already know works
im running blazing spirit/warp nexus trauma staff with bloodthirsty/blazing spirit force sword, my stacks are staying capped at 6 even without pychic communion feat
rare furnace
hope for a good second blessing
I don’t have spared blessings to swap on this stuff yet but what should I aim for
ionic urchin
using a gun and not a staff feels so wrong
azure goblet
I don’t have spared blessings to swap on this stuff yet but what should I aim fo...
If you're talking about that Purgatus staff you always want Warp Nexus on it; crits on Purgatus apply 2 stacks of soulfire
after that I prefer Warp Flurry for faster casting, some ppl seem to prefer focused chanelling or terrifying barrage
still hearth
Warp Nexus is crit iirc
vagrant cedar
purge staff don't have any blessings
summer prairie
I did some testing and purg with flurry suffers from the same delay between charging as surge. I wonder if they all do...
summer prairie
purge with flurry may be a net loss unless you do a full charge and even then it's questionable if you get the same delay before it fully kicks in
fluid knot
Purge wi/Terrifying Barrage + Warp Nexus is best setup for it
Crits apply 5 stacks of soulblaze
azure goblet
Crits apply 5 stacks of soulblaze
w8 since when
fluid knot
Since forever afaik
azure goblet
define 5 stacks
azure goblet
with soulblaze 5 stacks does roughly 48 dmg per tick
2 stacks does 9 at that ratio
critting with purgatus does 9 dmg per tick = 2 stacks
just tested again to be sure
safe crystal
Crits on purgatus applies double the normal stacks, so 1 --> 2 on crit
azure goblet
thats on a flak armored rager at 0 warp charges, my purgatus is 380 base rating, maxed dmg and burn, staff has +25% dmg to flak
yeah i think i see where the confusion came from
soulblaze stacks do more dmg per stack than bleed stacks
fierce sinew
there's no "damage per stack," it scales nonlinearly
winged phoenix
What we thinking siblings - Roll the groaner perk into crit chance to synergise some meme soulblaze build. Or play it safe and go flak armored?
azure goblet
probly play it safe with flak armoured
this is only blessing combo that might make the blazing spirit build worth it over slaughterer, and thats just if you want the warp charges from ascendant blaze
otherwise you build for bloodthirsty and slaughterer i'd say
winged phoenix
Yeah seems the safer option. Cheers!
rocky cedar
this is only blessing combo that might make the blazing spirit build worth it ov...
Seems kinda awkward trying to force special attack every 5 seconds to keep the blaze going
azure goblet
yeah im still playing with it to decide if its worth it
3 light autos and it kills all the ragers/maulers it hits, sometimes 3-5 of them on damnation when they're grouped up but i havent decided if its worth, only started using it today
echo turtle
Bloodthirsty gives you a few seconds of auto crits is that right?
azure goblet
yeah 5 secs it seems
near wyvern
this is only blessing combo that might make the blazing spirit build worth it ov...
Is this worth hunting for?
azure goblet
Is this worth hunting for?
idk, i hunted for it, only tested in 3 games. Had a bot headshotting everything i special attacked in all 3 games, kept stealing the kill from me so i didnt get the buff as consistently as i might otherwise
near wyvern
I would imagine Bloodthirsty Slaughterer is more effective since you can special the first go get the train going
azure goblet
yes i imagine that's more straight damage. The benefit of blazing spirit instead is you get tons of warp charges
near wyvern
And then there is the shred blazing spirit as well
spice veldt
with some warp stacks and decent peril level, I can one-shot a mauler with a light-special bodyshot after killing one enemy with a special
azure goblet
eh not consistent enough with shred ive found
near wyvern
yes i imagine that's more straight damage. The benefit of blazing spirit instead...
But then again you could just have a Purgatus
azure goblet
right, but then your only way of dealing with crushers/bulwarks is brainburst spam. I'm trying this build out w/trauma staff cuz if its consistent enough i can have a viable damnation build that isnt 90% bb spam with kinetic barrage
spice veldt
even with my trauma + FS build, bulwarks just get BBed by me
azure goblet
cuz that shits getting old
also trauma time to kill is higher for a smaller amount of enemies than purg
spice veldt
and it throws shit around
azure goblet
it does cc better yes
long as ur psyker is a moron and knows its his job to clean them up when he tosses them behind ppl
isn't a moron*
river sand
anyone else sitting on 30k diamantine and 0 plasteel, has it gotten worse since patch ?
still hearth
It's because
They removed cost to upgrade to T3
So you use even less diamanthine
And to also get more
Plasteel still gives 700-800 on the good maps for me
river sand
and i thought i was prepared for the patch, with 40k plasteel, and it was gone in like 5 minutes ... and i still dont have any good t4 blessings
gotta love that rng
azure goblet
i could be wrong about this but higher base rating weapons seem to have higher chance of getting T4 blessings
near wyvern
That's what I have heard
Too bad the slot machine only seems to give 280-330 weapons
But at least 370+ are regular now in the hourly shop.
rocky cedar
Both T4s I've gotten came from the two weapons I've upgraded to yellow since update
fierce sinew
the only t4 I've gotten on upgrade was on a 350 something
rocky cedar
Definitely feels to me like upgrade to yellow has better T4 chance
fierce sinew
to blue
winter hamlet
I've got these 2 purgs, which one should I use as I am conflicted on which to use honestly
toxic walrus
Is crit chance good on purgatus?
fierce sinew
yes
toxic walrus
I really like the secondary can't be interrupted on it
azure goblet
i mean swapping around blessings and perks on those 2 purgs they're basically the same, u could make either of them the same thing
still hearth
How do you guys roll this
azure goblet
do u want 8% to groaners/poxwalkers or to elites? thats the difference rly lol
yeah i get T2 perks constantly since patch
lilac tapir
hey guys, does anyone know what perk + blessing combo should go on a knife?
still hearth
I've upgraded a lot and never gotten below a T3 perk
azure goblet
same until this patch
still hearth
Funky
azure goblet
now ive made about 40 transendents and at least 30 of them had T2 perks
still hearth
hey guys, does anyone know what perk + blessing combo should go on a knife?
Executor + Uncanny Strike is huge
azure goblet
40 since the patch i mean
still hearth
For perks probably Maniac + Unyielding, or Carapace
lilac tapir
For perks probably Maniac + Unyielding, or Carapace
thanks, I've had some fun with Antax V and want to try something else now, knife seems fun, lot's of mobility, basically feels like sprinting all the time
still hearth
Knife letting you sprint faster with heavy attacks is great
lilac tapir
exactly, reminds me of good old V2 days with dagger on Sienna
winter hamlet
Thanks alot guys, i was trying to get T4 terrifying barrage but didnt get it yet
toxic walrus
Anyone have reccomendations for trinkets? Thinking 1 wound, 1 toughness, 1 HP? And not sure what for sub stats
still hearth
I run all HP and sniper resistance + revive speed
Then pretty much whatever
But one of each is decent
rocky cedar
Fuck snipers
azure goblet
i run all toughness w/30% toughness regen, 4% combat ability regen, then sniper or gunner resistance
rocky cedar
Hedge said this wasn't COD shaking my head
I need to update my curios on Psyker still running 2 toughness 1 health with coherency regen where I can get it
Tempted to try replacing the health one with stam and see how that feels
gaunt stone
this staff is my greatest achievement
rocky cedar
But then again I run with a dagger
I regularly run stuff DS V so similar thinking
spice veldt
i concur as an FS user
gaunt stone
what are the blessings to aim for on purg staff?
fluid knot
Terrifying barrage
Next best
That way you dont get bummed in close quarters so easy
wise pecan
Some folks like terrifying barrage, some like focused channeling, whatever you prefer
I would be inclined to also go terrifying barrage
neat summit
I don’t find myself getting interrupted if I’m positioning and dodging properly
sudden siren
sweet baby jesus
floral solstice
now ask fs to fix blessings next
gaunt stone
one more question regarding getting good blessings. Besides melk is it best to just upgrade weapons to blues to roll 3/4s? Also I am sure there are base breakpoints to roll for 3/4s is there a guide that talks about them or does someone know about them from experience?
weary wasp
What's the deal with surge's secondary and weakspot hits? I feel like it used to be all weakspots before and now its all body shots with chain lightning
gaunt stone
doint think it ever hit weakspots
one of the reasons I swapped a modifier to unarmoured
floral solstice
i've never seen rmb doing weakspots since i started using it
gaunt stone
^
floral solstice
unless it's a thing back in really early beta or something
gaunt stone
I played beta I don't think it ever did
floral solstice
same, kinda joined beta late though
didnt get to try psyker back when they said it was kinda busted (was it?)
cyan notch
i played the beta as psyker and got the garbage ass revolver i didnt know how to use bb and hated the old ui then crashed and uninstalled within 2 mins
floral solstice
then you hopped back to a sinking ship jk
even made 5 psykers
what a plot twist
azure goblet
What's the deal with surge's secondary and weakspot hits? I feel like it used to...
Meat Grinder used to incorrectly show weakspot hits when they weren't weakspots, that's probly why you thought Surge staff hits weakspots with secondary
forest coral
Psyker felt the worst to level up too but felt really good once 30 was reached
leaden thunder
100%
forest coral
Zealot was basically playing vermintide throughout so never really felt weak but definitely had power spike with holy rev and double charge
Vet was kinda boring levelling and then became stupidly good with 30
cyan notch
then you hopped back to a sinking ship jk
i only tried it cuz it was free on gamepass tbh
solar cloak
it’s satisfying to clutch as psyker
vagrant furnace
now that we have access to the scoreboard i guess some people will stop saying psyker is trash
leaden thunder
I don't think many people actually think it's trash, worse then the other classes tho
solar cloak
psyker definitely the weakest among the 4
but a good psyker makes specials feel like nothing for the entire match
pine relic
How am i gonna finish this as a psyker
solar cloak
its shared
vagrant furnace
just reroll this
solar cloak
let other players pick it up
sudden siren
that's both grim and scripts
solar cloak
or that too
bronze seal
Sire Melk is selling this now
pine relic
I know it's shared, but my health pool
solar cloak
rerollings your safest bet
but scriptures also count
so you dont have to focus only grims
lusty wave
Guys I need help
Which one do I take away from my force sword
Unstable power or shred?
pine relic
shred
sudden siren
fire staff?
vagrant furnace
i would say terrifying barrage and warp nexus but personnal preference
sudden siren
crit and unarmored? or unyielding i guess
vagrant furnace
oh perks my bad
lusty wave
Yeah fire staff
sudden siren
something like this
vagrant furnace
crit and whatever you want
lusty wave
O ok
pine relic
unarmoured and infested.
worn cypress
does warp nexus cap out at 3?
worn cypress
hrm ok good to know
pine relic
I pick the unarmoured perk because this thing has 450 health at Damnation.
bronze seal
i've just posted it a minute ago lol
worn cypress
ranged crit damage isnt great but the other one was sprint speed so 😐
bronze seal
i mean the one that Sire Melk is selling
vagrant furnace
its a solid staff but yeah ranged critical hit is meh
but at least it does something
worn cypress
yea
happy with it for now once I get to rerolling to +20% dmg unarmored or flak or something
weary wasp
Meat Grinder used to incorrectly show weakspot hits when they weren't weakspots,...
that explains
floral solstice
pretty good but it popped up on my vet 
tiny thicket
whats the meta all rounder build for psyker?
floral solstice
purgatus is the most common build you'll see from random psykers
FS + purg usually but i run antax
fierce sinew
121112 purg + antax/DS/FS is probably the cookie cutter setup you see the most
vestal rose
Finally got a third okay-ish 3 stamina curio
Deflection meme build is go
floral solstice
go for maximum shieldgryn cosplay
leaden thunder
*better shieldgryn
vestal rose
Yeah honestly probably still gonna do more damage than the shield lol
leaden thunder
easily
i'd much rather have a deflector meme psyker then a shieldyrn
every day of the week
vestal rose
Never used it myself but it doesn't seem like a good weapon at all
Shieldgryns please stop slapping the horde around there are better things to do with your time
(I say, running a meme build)
vestal rose
Deflector and slaughterer psyker
That's exactly it
forest coral
Anything that can block shotgun blasts and gunners
leaden thunder
Never used it myself but it doesn't seem like a good weapon at all
Shieldgryns p...
you are very correct
forest coral
Hell ye
vestal rose
Also one shots mutants in the head if you're gamer enough
Love me force sword
forest coral
And can actually kill while cleaving
fierce sinew
the shield is extremely good when used as a shield
floral solstice
is there even a weapon with lower dps than shield lol
forest coral
Power maul zealot proba
fierce sinew
gunpsyker actually negative dps contribution by stealing ammo that could have gone in a bolter :^)
wet jacinth
Don't be hating on my gun siblings
I never said hate now did i?
floral solstice
i think crusher on zealot horde combo still outdps's shield ngl
never tried though ofc
forest coral
i think crusher on zealot horde combo still outdps's shield ngl
What really
floral solstice
i might die of boredom
leaden thunder
Power maul zealot proba
zealots have more damage boosting stuff for light spam
I am pretty sure it way dpses the shield
floral solstice
What really
i mean uncharged combos
vestal rose
Ran the maul once
Never again
Worse than axe push attack spam
floral solstice
have you guys tried zealot crusher on t5 assassination boss
that was the last time i used it
jesus christ i think the boss died of old age
vestal rose
Charge, bonk
Where was this when I was having insomnia this morning
Putting me to sleep here
floral solstice
ok kimo next time we play assassination t5 im bringing shieldgryn and slapping the boss with it, have fun
floral solstice
i will brace my shield vs single poxwalkers
forest coral
and our kbm will wear out before we reach the end of mission
vestal rose
Darktide pacifist run?
vestal rose
I've had some fun with warp barrage and the 15% cooldown on elite kill feat
The "stare at your hands" gameplay is a change of pace and a fun detriment to your team :)
wet jacinth
finding ways to meme on t5
4 Ogryn Pacifist run
floral solstice
you run through stuff with bullrush + unstoppable
then do maps with objectives that dont involve killing
wet jacinth
Hmm true.
wet jacinth
A true guardsmen isnt a pacifist in majority
fierce sinew
hab dreyko could be done with zero kills, couldn't it?
just scanning and waiting
chasm logistratum too
floral solstice
will be harder on some t5 maps too like excise vault
some drop downs with so many shooters
fierce sinew
yeah
digital loom
purg is boring but a safe bet to carry some dead weights to the end
tall mango
Voidstrike my beloved
digital loom
but zealot flamer a little better imo because despite having ammo to deal with you can fire it while charging which is usually gets you close enough to the gunline
on the other hand purgatus has a pretty good reach as well, and you can gap close with deflector
forest coral
zealot flamer can also keep firing for much longer at a time with much longer range
but honestly ascendant blaze kinda outperforms it given right circumstance
floral solstice
also this
idk the reasoning behind this but here we are i guess
probably just to make the blessing buff consistent for weapons that roll it
pine relic
floral solstice
i think they buffed blaze away in general
i still think flamer didn't really need it
it did make other weapons like autopistol way better
pine relic
My perfect pistol is trashed by this blessing.
floral solstice
rip
welp i have some autopistols with t3 blaze away but i honestly dont like the range on them
i still run brauto on zealot
pine relic
She just gave me a powderburn again!
floral solstice
they didn't really think about practical applications of some blessings i swear
pine relic
Like that stupid gun n run?
floral solstice
but they want blessings to give us options to "change playstyle" or something like that lol
pine relic
No, they just put some trash blessings there so you have to keep rolling
floral solstice
would be ironic regardless if it was intentional or not
at least some blessings are just undertuned
others are straight-up garbage
pine relic
It's designed, How can it not be intentional
grizzled jasper
Power blessing that increases everything and then you get run n gun
Wtf happened here
north cradle
Deflector and slaughterer psyker
Literally me
wet jacinth
Looks for his sister
grizzled jasper
I love how he’s also using a shield
floral solstice
no weebs
forest coral
floral solstice
floral solstice
no u
floral solstice
it's a doll, no lewding
im a humble and chaste man so idk what you're talking about
wet jacinth
floral solstice
floral solstice
are you speaking from experience
ok now there's the horny boi
kimo
no doubt
imagine bloodborne coming to pc
doll mods
wet jacinth
wet jacinth
I may be a pringle. But I use no such doll
floral solstice
tf
forest coral
wat
floral solstice
fr though
dolls creep the shit out of me irl
not a serious phobia or something
idk
wet jacinth
The chucky ones especially
floral solstice
creepy as shit
wet jacinth
Some porcelain ones too
pine relic
I need to change my picture to my waifu too
wet jacinth
I need to change my picture to my waifu too
You already have one
forest coral
just the old porcelain ones
they're made of insight and knowledge
wet jacinth
floral solstice
looks like a bunch of people are horny for atomic heart rn
glad i didnt buy it lol
dunno if actual combat is good though
pine relic
You already have one
eh, who?
wet jacinth
looks like a bunch of people are horny for atomic heart rn
Metalussy attracts horny
floral solstice
they're made of insight and knowledge
and demon essence
pine relic
Daemon host?
forest coral
great suggestion, unfortunately I refue
cyan notch
yes
cyan notch
i require carries
forest coral
Stevebuthorny
forest coral
another vet
cyan notch
forest coral
floral solstice
you will need to do something when another content drought comes
get to leveling ogryn or be a loser
forest coral
Now im just not gonna do it
floral solstice
i'll pay you
forest coral
floral solstice
if someone paid you to play shieldgryn only would you do it
forest coral
Ye
but that implies levelling up an ogryn
need new content before i want to do that
floral solstice
psyker ogryns
rare furnace
I’ll level up ogryn whenever discount on the game comes because my bro is buying and wants ogryn
Is only think im delaying
floral solstice
are there ogryns with powers in lore
i have no idea
i unga therefore i bunga vibes
forest coral
Well in lore says they're too dumb to count to six
Ogryns seem alot smarter than that in dt
long wharf
They have implants in their head to boost their intelligence
rare furnace
There is the metal device in their head
Ogryn voice line even says it
Like you ain’t just ogryn you special ogryn so that’s even crazier
long wharf
Only the smartest of ogryns get one (waste on everybody else)
floral solstice
maybe next subclass is gun related ogryn
that might get you to play ogryn kimo
if unga bunga BB + slaughterer light spam doesn't do it for you
forest coral
We shall see, i care about more maps and actual campaigns > classes atm
Something like chaos wastes roguelike campaign from VT would be perfect for me
olive ember
Welp I basically have BiS gear for psyker minus fishing for the 1% increase in damage or wte
So time to find a good zealot heavy sword and test it out
vagrant furnace
Yeah chaos wastes was a great addition
You could go crazy with non meta builds/weapons it was really fun
forest coral
yeh, the best part was all things were viable with enough luck
regal onyx
You can shitpost in the Fatshark forums even harder by uploading images and video files in your posts
MEME AWAY
regal onyx
https://tenor.com/view/ree-pepe-triggered-angry-ahhhh-gif-13627544
Noobtrapping people into terrible builds is fun
Anon has never tried it
Why even live, bro?
vagrant furnace
For everything better you need something worse its called equilibrium
twilit flicker
what do you think of this build? its suuuper fun, only wouldn't really use it in damnation onviously, well maybe try once or twice and then look for rank 4 blessings.
shy fiber
what perks should i be going for?
shy fiber
well perks not blessings
twilit flicker
ahh shit sorry, flak is popular, maybe maniac to crit chance? or infested?
or unarmoured for even better damage against shooters
shy warren
bruh, I just had a literal smooth brain moment while talking to some friends in vc and deleted my pysker
shy fiber
bruh, I just had a literal smooth brain moment while talking to some friends in ...
h-how
shy warren
I'm kinda buzzed, and Im pretty sure I thought the delete button was something else lmao
twilit flicker
rest in peace, will you make a new one?
shy warren
nah, too much headache
regal onyx
I'm kinda buzzed, and Im pretty sure I thought the delete button was something e...
gg no re ff, delete everything
twilit flicker
better make an ogryn and only play drunk from now on
dusky bear
heresy really feels harder than damnation
dusky bear
clear a hoard and a bunch of ragers/maulers
door behind us spawns 3 dogs 2 trappers 2 bulwarks, a crusher, 2 snipers and one of our team running just a bit ahead spawned a beast of nurgle
oh and 3 tox flamers right after that
twilit flicker
I have had games like that, where a damnation goes so smoothly its much easier than heresy on high intensity. its unusual though.
dusky bear
this was just regular heresy
the ai director just dropped a giant "i think the fuck not" bomb on us
twilit flicker
its not unusual to get a horde along with a monstrosity though, that's a hell of a horde though
dusky bear
our psyker did their best, managed to kill the trappers and dogs but couldnt do shit against the bulkwarks and crusher with the nonstop aoe from the tox flamers
regal onyx
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Heresy is currently bugged. It's either ezpz or it will vomit you an entire kitchen sink to make you lose. Kinda fitting for the difficulty name. 
Last time I lost a Heresy mission, we had the interrogation mission with 3 interrogation spots and it would back-to-back spawn as the objective was disabled a full horde, spawn another horde right after clearing the first and then immediately a third. Specials and all. Midway through the 2nd Horde we lost two players who got separated and then at the third it was game. Very insane.
forest coral
I've had 1 or two Heresy games where it was harder than Hi intense damnation because it feels like the AI director broke. pox walkers would not stop spawning after initial event of relay station, like literal endless stream. Then it would still come non stop with bosses, specialist waves which had less than 10-15 seconds between each
pine relic
I think they fixed infinite horde spawn.
regal onyx
I find this so funny, we are literally retreading every single bug Vermintide 1 and Vermintide 2 originally had 
What wouldn't I give for flying / infinite range Hounds now so new players can experience the dread that was early game Vermintide 2 Eshin Assassins.
regal onyx
I think they fixed infinite horde spawn.
They must have broke it again or it's a different issue not related to Horde spawns but event spawns. It happened 2 days ago.
forest coral
I find this so funny, we are literally retreading every single bug Vermintide 1 ...
this is literally what hurts my head each time
The only lesson they learned was that they can get away with releasing unfinished things because there's that hardcore loyal community that will keep things through its trash period
regal onyx
this is literally what hurts my head each time
They didn't "learn" that lesson, though. There is a Reddit post floating around where a true Fatshark Fan goes into detail how this has been their go to release cycle for all games since they were founded.
Hype up game > Release game > Bugs and Issues Galore > Go Silent modo because of le hate, meanwhile make big content patch and console release > Release console version + big content patch many months later > Game is good, all the players return
Something like that.
forest coral
The long con, ah well.
cold geode
Anyone else not seeing contract updates since the reset? I've been completing them but so far melk says I've done nothing?
regal onyx
At least you know the game will be great. It's just like a really good lasagne that is deeper frozen than you thought. You put it back in and come back later.
@cold geode Stop being lazy. Melk sees all.
forest coral
At least you know the game will be great. It's just like a really good lasagne t...
Yep, thats why when initial wave of fomo crying happened im just like. Time to wait like half a year to an entire year before its gonna be somewhat decent
and then become really good after that
Peak vermintide for me was chaos wastes update
regal onyx
Yep, thats why when initial wave of fomo crying happened im just like. Time to w...
It's not that bad now already, though. That's the thing, people don't have patience with devs anymore. And I often see the "back in my days that would never happen" argument. And then I wonder how short the memory of most people is. I remember countless of games that were bugged to heaven come, even in the 2000's. But back then gaming wasn't mainstream and everyone just laughed at those bugs.
Yeah Chaos Wastes was good. I liked the game before but that game mode blew it completely out of proportion. Especially with those weirdo builds you can have.
When they advertized Darktide I assumed some elements of Chaos Wastes would make it into the game, since that was so well received and it makes the gameplay fresh each playthrough. But apparently not.
regal onyx
I want more modifiers and all of them rotation at all times.
Also, two modifiers on one map at once. Real chaos.
forest coral
and add twitch chat integration to automatically rng random spawns on top of it
regal onyx
Come to think of it - I always found it funny that most Warhammer games and Warhammer lore are all about that chaos. But I have found that they are consistently the least chaotic and least diverse games when it comes to enemy types and items and such - If we are talking the RPG part here.
forest coral
Well, apart from the over the top grim dark shit
some chaos lifestyles dont seem too bad
compared to the human empire equivalents
but FR, some of the dark in the writing is straight up moronic
regal onyx
Yeha but in terms of gameplay and enemies. I feel a lot of noname games even have that better down. Like thematically and in most other aspects, I feel Warhammer games just fall off a cliff with few exceptions.
And I don't know most of the original book writing. I only got into it for the videa games. Don't care much for tabletop.
forest coral
saame
i had 0 warhammer interaction until the tide games
and at most did some casual reading
regal onyx
I mean, many of it's concepts aren't new I guess. But I notice this limitation of units really a lot when it comes Total War. The unit variety is extensive only because Creative Assembly constantly cheats with the same unit being doubled because one has another weapon as variant or such. But when you condense the actual roster down, I feel most factions don't have that many units and thus lack strategic / gameplay depth. Really weird.
pine relic
echo turtle
what perks should i be going for?
crit
echo turtle
what do you think of this build? its suuuper fun, only wouldn't really use it in...
Switch mind in motion to kinetic deflection, you really really want it for knife push block spam
Take mercy kill paired with lacerations. it is WILD how much damage your dagger will do
with those two tweaks the build is perfectly viable on damnation, I was doing exactly that gunker build with a mk3 vraks hh and doing greT
So, I got the scoreboard mod and confirmed my suspicion that I lead the team in most runs in kills/damage. Then I switched from my psyker (using flame build) to my zealot, running flamer and knife. Holy fuck, I felt drunk with power. It was like playing a difficulty lower. However I saw on the scoreboards I was getting less total damage and kills. Brain Bursting was doing SO much work for the team. Being on top of the bursts while contributing in melee and clearing waves, you can easily be #1 across all the measured catagories
Also, I played with a bunch of surge staff users who lightning into chaff. Dont do that
just dont
twilit flicker
Mercy kill sounds great, I ended up melting my knives from earlier just collect the blessings.
forest coral
mercy kill and anim cancel downward slash is juicy
fierce sinew
be interesting to see how much the perception of the balance changes when people have actual information to inform their opinions
forest coral
Only thing a few of my friends found about the scoreboard is most of the points still come from fragging out or collecting ammo for some odd reason
echo turtle
Mercy kill sounds great, I ended up melting my knives from earlier just collect ...
Its not hard to get a good one, Lacerate + mercy man omg
forest coral
so doing objectives might throw you down a little bit, other than that im happy the list exists
echo turtle
I think you can adjust what it tracks
forest coral
also holding things like grimoires seem inaccurate atm
tbh I just want simplified list like vermintide, less clutter
echo turtle
in any case my psyker kills and damage seem to outstrip my zealot while having worse damage from@ranged and melee, Brain burst just is SO imoactful
for a brainburst gunker build will slay imo
shy fiber
Also, I played with a bunch of surge staff users who lightning into chaff. Dont ...
Lightning into chaff?
forest coral
Have you tried ascendant blaze builds for the list
echo turtle
yeah face
forest coral
less elite kills but the damage output is nutty
echo turtle
guys who have lightning staff and FS i see lightning into chaff a lot
shy fiber
What’s chaff
echo turtle
lightning does fuck all to shit not wearing chaff
shy fiber
I just use it for cc and utility lol
echo turtle
thats why peoole tend to take an axe, cuz it clears hordes well
its great at what it’s great at
and useless for clearing trash
shy fiber
Ye
twilit flicker
Always need a weapon for horde clear, surge is not that weapon
echo turtle
less elite kills but the damage output is nutty
I lead in elite kills in both games I played today with my psyker
both wwre ascendant blaze games
forest coral
vets not doing their jobs smh
echo turtle
Always need a weapon for horde clear, surge is not that weapon
surge and axe is like PB and J for that reason
shy fiber
Ascendant blaze + Purgatus is so fun
I want to actually try to invest into a trauma staff
I heard it’s good now?
echo turtle
vets not doing their jobs smh
they were, I am very on top of brain bursts
forest coral
ab purg is amazing in general, just frustrating when noone can reliably kill elites tho
echo turtle
I heard it’s good now?
people say its good, buuuut
shy fiber
vets not doing their jobs smh
TFW the Veteran in your team thinks that having the best melee weapon in the game means they should be on the front lines 💀💀💀
echo turtle
imo you should be brain bursting soelites not trying to trip the@
forest coral
Trauma is ok, I wouldnt say amazing
forest coral
Its fun af to use tho
echo turtle
Get the scoreboard mod and track yourself see what works
forest coral
scoreboard should just be part of core game
echo turtle
Ascendant blaze + Purgatus is so fun
Yeah, taking warp essence with the purge build is also super strong and makes up for how squishy the class is a bit
echo turtle
TFW the Veteran in your team thinks that having the best melee weapon in the gam...
vets who cant melee make me laugh.
FS isn’t necessarily the “best”
its sluggish
forest coral
I still sometimes run Purg + KB in quickjoins though since it covers more all rounder but it definitely doesnt have the horde demolish button that ab is now
shy fiber
I’m really at the mercy of my team
I want a very balanced staff to run
I heard voidstrike wasn’t the best for that
forest coral
Trauma is your jack of all trades staff
shy fiber
That rend seems nice
echo turtle
forest coral
Voidstrike needs good positioning and team who can play around it
echo turtle
this build is viable on purge
I ran that all the tine
I just want constant regen lately
forest coral
That was basically my old build before psyker rework
shy fiber
Having the stacks of warp go down 1 by 1 changes everything
mild tartan
Haven’t played in a month or so
echo turtle
I am switching my gunner and sniper res for corruption resistance to get grimoires
forest coral
Haven’t played in a month or so
Its much better, damage is same but much less peril cost to use
echo turtle
Better but lightning and fire still are better
echo turtle
Trauma is useable now
forest coral
I have warp battery on basically all my builds now
mild tartan
Better but lightning and fire still are better
Got it, have two really good options in Melks shop for a trauma and a surge, wasn’t sure what to go with
echo turtle
but like, I dunno. It’s not impressive to me
forest coral
but i like to run communion over lacerations/ other one
echo turtle
Surge is actually really helpful to the team
shy fiber
Surge is actually really helpful to the team
If they can clean up trash and the elites you stagger
echo turtle
run surge with a KB build and keep bursters and muties thw fuck away
shy fiber
💀
mild tartan
Warp flurry works now
Does terrifying barrage work too
echo turtle
spam Bbs into ogryns and all the snipers and disablers, you’re MVP
forest coral
The fact that surge can stunlock and kill off flak shotgunners
echo turtle
hoede clear with the axe
forest coral
makes life juicy
shy fiber
I feel like I matchmake with zealots who are allergic towards getting into the front line
echo turtle
yeah, Surge is legit
shy fiber
Does terrifying barrage work too
Yes.
forest coral
Surge is also your way of saying fuk off to a large group of armor spawns
echo turtle
with surge you are brain bursting a LOT and axe murdering hordes
thats how to crush with it
forest coral
shy fiber
I thought axe was single target
jolly musk
with surge you are brain bursting a LOT and axe murdering hordes
super fun playstyle
echo turtle
I thought axe was single target
LOL no
shy fiber
Optimal combo?
echo turtle
the mk5 antax does it all
jolly musk
brutal momentum
echo turtle
thats all you need
you have to take kinetic deflection
and you push block attack into hordes
long wharf
Don't forget limbsplitter
echo turtle
you control thw horde and drop them as the cleave is a homing missile for zombie weakspots
the axe murders flak too. the heavies chunk carapace to death
shy fiber
Force sword is aesthetic tho
echo turtle
well
echo turtle
The FS is real bad at dealing qith what the surge staff is dealing with
echo turtle
Ehhhhh
wet jacinth
Decently. Not great
echo turtle
theoretically
wet jacinth
There are better options
forest coral
yes
echo turtle
Its one of the worse anti horde options available
forest coral
its just good all rounder
shy fiber
I just want 2h force sword already
forest coral
I miss my elf spears from vermintide
shy fiber
I love me some archery
forest coral
No javelins
echo turtle
surge and axe is a pretty meta combo, but take whatever melee weapon fills you with joy
I just take daggers
jolly musk
No javelins
javelins were the best. Nothing like throwing one right into your friend's back lol
shy fiber
Daggers are good with Psyker?
echo turtle
Daggers are good with Psyker?
yeah. really good
wet jacinth
if there are dual wield weapons
Dual force blades exist
shy fiber
yeah. really good
How so
echo turtle
but they take some getting used to
forest coral
they're much better on zealot tho
wet jacinth
Depends if we get them in darktide at all.
shy fiber
they're much better on zealot tho
Yeah Lmao
twilit flicker
Daggers and Dueling swords for high mobility, positioning
fresh reef
👀
forest coral
No javelins
also whats wrong with javelins
wet jacinth
Force sword inf dodge kek
forest coral
did someone spear u in the back
echo turtle
thats heresy
shy fiber
I haven’t tried dueling swords
wet jacinth
also whats wrong with javelins
Newbie bait
shy fiber
Which mk is best?
forest coral
:v
echo turtle
Which mk is best?
i think 5?
shy fiber
Aye
forest coral
the moment you get bromentum on it
its best melee weapon in the game for all rounder
doesnt need fancy comboes, stun locks almost everything
twilit flicker
I dont think it matters for dueling swords, seems like personal preference for most
echo turtle
Dagger has a natty 15% crit rate. with +5 % you are critting a lot. take lacerate and mercy kill for like 40-50% extra damage on weakspots and that weapon will single target DPS almost as well as a FS using charhe attacks
shy fiber
Dueling swords are aesthetic
twilit flicker
Ppl like mk5 cuz the overhead heavy attack, but the mk 4 is stabby stab
shy fiber
You know what I’ll try dueling sword
forest coral
Mk5 is my go to
echo turtle
mk5 i think is bugged atm
forest coral
is it?
forest coral
wouldnt have noticed haha
shy fiber
Force sword is really bad at single target when you need it lol
echo turtle
it has some drawbacks
forest coral
Force sword is really bad at single target when you need it lol
wat no
shy fiber
It locks you into place really long
Idk I’ve never been in any good situation where I can reliably get it off
forest coral
That single target will kill maulers and muties non stop
shy fiber
Maybe it’s because the VETERAN THINKS THEYRE A ZEALOT
echo turtle
its nice when you are shoulder to shoulder with the team
forest coral
^
shy fiber
Must be nice
shy fiber
I’m just coping rn
echo turtle
the FS is not doing you a lot if favours
twilit flicker
The FS has a much much slower attack speed than the knife or dueling sword, lower mobility too.
echo turtle
I talk a lot of shit about that weapon, some people love it
forest coral
its literally no different than a evisc or chainsword special
feral verge
and the special attack looks sick. aesthetic is the most important stat
twilit flicker
Yeah FS has deflector which can save you, and the special attack is sweet
twilit flicker
Also true, position well to begin with
fresh reef
infinite dodge >>> deflector existing
shy fiber
The people I Matchmake into damnation with are so unreliable
fresh reef
change my mind
shy fiber
I think I’ll just run a general build
feral verge
i'd rather look fly as fuck, dead with a glowing force sword in my hand, than being an alive, boring looking ass with no drip with some lame axe
forest coral
Deflector is nice to have as an option
echo turtle
Theres like, two builds
forest coral
shy fiber
Deflector is nice to have as an option
Still need to find one
echo turtle
Kinetic Barrage, and Ascendant Blaze
both work great for T5
just always take kinetic deflection and you’ll be fine
forest coral
when in doubt use barrage
shy fiber
Food
echo turtle
I have popped my ult, bursted down specials, right into another ult and just kept goong
echo turtle
3/4 teams are fine, if you are losing a lot. Step up your game
forest coral
^
viral solstice
every team is bad, because im in every team. be the difference u want to see in the world
feral verge
most people are here to communicate and work together
viral solstice
twilit flicker
Wise crab.
feral verge
what other wisdom does crab posses?
echo turtle
One thing I see, is people expect teamates to be doing XYZ. I have a buddy who plays vet and rages when the team isn’t protecting him
echo turtle
don’t expect your team to do shit for you, be self sufficient