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#psyker-class
viral solstice
clear heath
but yeah i want it for surge staff for the same reason
viral solstice
but actually warp coloured and consequently beyond human pigments
u need to be a decachromat
clear heath
i just want to know when i crit with surge
and burning things with lightning is just cool
stray birch
I also just like the idea of the infinitely stacking soulflame
And I would love more ways to apply it.
primal fjord
Haven't played my Psyker in a while, DS/Surge user. With the change to melee weapon peril quelling. Would Warp Absorption be worth using, instead of Quietitude?
summer prairie
Not at all
clear heath
I still run quietude
well, i have been the whole time using FS and Surge anyways
force sword didn't even change lol
summer prairie
FS passive quelling speed improved, by 20% maybe
clear heath
I thought they only did that with the staves
summer prairie
maybe misremembering
clear heath
Iirc patch notes said they added a passive quell speed buff that scales with quell speed stat on staves
fs doesn't have a quell speed stat
Only force sword changes i can see in the notes are this
not like anyone uses those blessings even after the buffs lol
wait why the fuck did they nerf the duration?
summer prairie
forcestaves went from 1-5 lerp range to 1-4, that's all
not sure how much that even matters at the high end
since the first number is the value at 100%
clear heath
probably doesn't matter then
In practice it's pointless anyways
How often are you passive quelling with staff out?
summer prairie
never
clear heath
Either you are casting or you're active quelling
echo turtle
block push attacks reset that
sterile vale
wait why the fuck did they *nerf* the duration?
Because now it can refresh its own duration, whereas previously it could only trigger again after expiring.
stray birch
Haven't played my Psyker in a while, DS/Surge user. With the change to melee we...
Not with Surge staff. Warp Absorbtion really shines with Voidstrike since it kills large amount of enemies very quickly typically, it's okay with Trauma, but Quietude is overall more versatile.
leaden thunder
without having to stack it and without if falling off when you push attack
summer prairie
the uptime is probably much better than with shred
stray birch
I like my Psychic butter knife.
I call it a butter knife because look how the psyker grips it, with their forefinger lifted high, it's how you'd grip something like a chef's knife.
Though you'd also wrap your thumb up there around the base of the knife for better edge control.
sonic coral
which should I swap out for deflector? or is deflector not even great anymore without being able to rez with it
leaden thunder
I personally would rather have sluaghterer then defelector
and either way swap out precog
it's ass
sonic coral
I still haven't picked up a slaughterer yet lol
oh well
I guess I could go exorcist
near wyvern
Not with Surge staff. Warp Absorbtion really shines with Voidstrike since it kil...
I am leaning towards essence harvest now with trauma since the passive quell nerf. I have been getting more reliable results with it.
near wyvern
since you push with it and I think that resets the shred
Yes, pushing resets. You have to keep chaining attacks (light or heavy) to keep up the chain.
stray birch
Warp Absorption is a bit spotty with anything other than voidstrike IMO
rose haven
How do I stop being addicted to the soothing cool ranch flavored flames of the Purgatus?
leaden thunder
long wharf
get addicted to the sound of headshots with void
stray birch
How do I stop being addicted to the soothing cool ranch flavored flames of the P...
You don't
long wharf
or the meaty thunk of combat axe
long wharf
Darktide has some really great audio design
leaden thunder
0 peril becuase of the peril reduction on headshots
long wharf
frankly, all of FartShart's audio/art team doesn't deserve the shit programmers they have
rose haven
The sound design is probably a weirdly substantial part of the dopamine harvested and keeps me playing.
10 hour ASMR headshot crunch sounds
stray birch
The sound design is probably a weirdly substantial part of the dopamine harveste...
Unrelated to psyker, but the reason I use autoguns on my sharpshooter is the chunky sounds with it.
God, I love it so much, and every time I reload and whack that charging handle?
long wharf
the music contributed to me playing as long as I did
clear heath
The weapon sound effects are very good
some of the other sounds were pretty poorly utilized in the preorder beta though
anyone remember the loud ass peril sounds?
playing every 2 seconds
the shit that plays at 90% peril used to play at 50% and it was awful
river sand
just for information, tested surge and i dont know if they changed something but it definitly fires extra charged attacks
long wharf
are you actually seeing a second projectile?
summer prairie
can you see them or do they overlap, not very satisfying if latter
long wharf
or just double damage?
river sand
yeah you see a second explosion, but its nearly instant
long wharf
also, I don't know what you replaced, but you really want Transfer Peril on void
that extra hit is going to also double the peril quell effect of Transfer Peril
river sand
problem is void is close to useless without flurry
long wharf
otherwise it's only decent
summer prairie
you'll end up with more charged shots with flurry anyway
long wharf
you're not wrong
river sand
if the one i posted was flak instead of unarmoured it would be great
long wharf
I think all staves should have crit chance modifier
winged phoenix
Ive found you can deal with not running flurry by doing the ol Quell cancel. However, need some god tier rolls on the staff to make it so you arent just "shuffling corpses" around
long wharf
having any on-crit effects with the psyker's base crit chance is just trolling by FartShart
river sand
transfer peril is just not worth it. with 6 charges and inner tranq you can easily get out 10 - 12 full charged shots before you need to quell
long wharf
transfer peril is absolutely the best blessing for void
river sand
nahh not close as good as ppl say
winged phoenix
Its the combo of Transfer Peril + Quietude thats godlike, Not just transfer on its own
long wharf
it's absolutely as good as I and others say
being able to literally fire all day long is void's biggest benefit
summer prairie
with transfer peril you can have constant flurry uptime too
long wharf
because at heresy+ you aren't easily one-shotting the mob any more
which means more charging, which means more peril, which means more need for quelling
transfer peril makes it so you can just spam fully charged void into the horde
it's absolutely irreplaceable for when you need it
I wouldn't even use void without transfer peril, honestly
summer prairie
ulting doesn't reset flurry by the way
winged phoenix
Will say: If its a generic horde, legit better off spamming Quell headshots like a machine gun
long wharf
^ I disagree with that as well
that's the best way to do minimal damage
and pay the most peril for it
winged phoenix
I mean, each to their own, in our 4 stack its saved a number of near "fuck up" horde ambushes
river sand
nononono that low charge animation cancel thing is the worst thing you can do in the entire game
long wharf
it sounds fun until you realize you aren't killing anything
river sand
you need like 3-4 uncharged headshots for a poxwalker, in the time you can get of 2 fully charged
long wharf
if you just spent the extra half second to charge, you would kill that horde instead
summer prairie
nah, it's 2
long wharf
problem with machinegunning void is that your first shot hits heads, then the enemy staggers, and your follow up shots miss heads
you're generating peril without killing when you could be generating peril and killing
summer prairie
with t4 flurry full charge takes less than a second anyway
long wharf
just doesn't add up
especially on heresy+ where you need to charge up in order to kill with void
winged phoenix
So not to sound a little pigheaded in the discussion, however, I do think its a playstyle choice - Correct may not be "meta" with it. However in good hands it can still be as powerful.
Typical poxwalker horders still get shredded by it. Peril generation can be handled sufficiently with TP and QT even if you end up missing 50% of your shots.
The moment something nasty joins in the fray, you're typically gonna get the speedy BB's out to compensate the lower damage threshold from not utilising flurry.
Its worked thus far on Damnation for myself, however I know that frankly means sweet F A in the dicussion of whats actually decent
long wharf
I'm not arguing you can't be effective, as Darktide is far more dependent on player skill than weapon choice
that said, I still consider Transfer Peril the #1 blessing choice for void
every consideration for void usage benefits from having it
winged phoenix
Oh 100% dont disagree RE: TP 😄
Now if TP could be reworked for Trauma, I'd be in heaven.
viral solstice
the best* blessing combo for void is surge warp nexus
*the most spicy
this is an objective truth based on my opinion
winged phoenix
winged phoenix
You see nothing
winged phoenix
stray birch
frank hazel
Fellow dracthyr enjoyers
winged phoenix
Best taste in classes on both Azeroth and Tertium it seems!
stray birch
I wish people would understand that it's really strong too
It just doesn't look like it is, until you get under the hood.
long wharf
the biggest complaint isn't that psyker is weak, but that it's weak in comparison to the Darktide standard, Veteran
and the ways we've all found to enjoy psyker despite its limitations keep getting patched out
frank hazel
I wont lie I absolutely hated psyker at first. It took me a little while to get into it and enjoy it
But I needed to get used to its squishy nature after playing veteran
stray birch
I actually take way more damage on my vet than my psyker
Mostly due to ADS tunnel vision
long wharf
when I'm playing seriously, I use teammates as meat shields
being a surge user makes that a very viable strategy
just shoot lightning through friendlies
river sand
psyker is great, void is a lot of fun but i think trauma is just the full package, great mix of dmg and cc
stray birch
Oh, I rarely get in a situation where the poor poxwalkers can touch me.
long wharf
I put myself regularly where they can touch me, but they never do
my combat axe makes sure of that
stray birch
Do you prefer your nurglings original recipe or extra crispy?
silk ridge
Is 1-2-2-2-3-3 decent for a Purgatus staff build? Been a minute since I have played my Psyker
long wharf
I prefer 121112
I think you're missing out on half the reason for using purge if you don't take AB
with how easily we can keep warp charges now, you could drop communion for aura, I guess
so 122112
silk ridge
Thank you, I'll play around with them both. Been playing my Zealot too much recently
still hearth
Get that 25% damage on BB
long wharf
nah, more warp charges is still useful
still hearth
So you can melt bosses more.
long wharf
why? with purge I'm basically never using BB
crystal jolt
psyker seems to be the class with the most flexible feats
river sand
1-2-2-1-1-2 is the way to go with purg
long wharf
only it's not a problem at all
still hearth
Okay then
frank hazel
I love purgatus and voidstrike
still hearth
Psyker is the class with the least overtuned feats, but it still has a lot of undertuned ones.
crystal jolt
tbh i'd debate on kinetic flayer with AB if I'm using psykinetics aura as well
crystal jolt
you do lose them on each F though
long wharf
yeah
long wharf
6 stacks is what makes AB able to wipe out a room by itself
river sand
try a trauma with high flurry, 10% pox/groaners and 25% flak. oneshots every nonelite at 4 or 5 stacks and 2 shots all non-beafy elites
crystal jolt
why not use your F if your regening it faster?
still hearth
10% pox/groaners
Just use 25% infested instead
Groaners die to like a min charge shot
Though I prefer Unarmored + Flak for the anti shooter style.
olive ember
Is this me or does the guy not account for the fact of good base stats numbers/distribution matters
crystal jolt
i think he's assuming you will have got that item already as he mentions greys
clear heath
yeah i don't get enough good bases to justify throwing every green away
still hearth
Well if you're looking for a perfect weapon.
That's kind of the best way to do it.
But I wouldn't trash the weapon if its a 380 even with a bad perk/blessing
olive ember
Yeah but how many weapons with good stats and distribution are there
crystal jolt
maybe like 7
olive ember
I mean I guess it’s more efficient if you already have a 500+ gold weapon
But if you are anywhere below idk if throwing away a good base stat weapon is worth it over just gambling
Tho I suppose since I’m a psyker the pool of blessings I can pull from is a lot smaller
long wharf
if you're just looking for the blessing, absolutely upgrade to blue and then either strip or sell
still hearth
Right now you can just keep playing and get to upgrade a weapon to legendary after 2 games
So its not like its a big issue anymore with mats.
summer prairie
Good blessings/perks matter a lot more than rating
still hearth
It depends on the weapon.
Purge for instance
Just run a 380
With good stats
But melee especially, and some ranged weapons, need great blessings and want certain perks.
summer prairie
A 350 purge can be close to ideal
olive ember
Also since you are now guaranteed one blessing and perk from crafting I’d argue it’s worth the gamble to push a good stat weapon to yellow as opposed to just scrapping the damn thing the moment you get something bad
clear heath
How willing i am to gamble also kinda depends on how many blessings even exist for the weapon
Like some weapons have like 12 possible blessings and others have like 5
olive ember
like according to the post I should've scrapped this thing when it was green
since I got +1 stam
olive ember
Like some weapons have like 12 possible blessings and others have like 5
true true, the staffs are good example of having a large pool and of the pool you'd have to be fairly unlucky to get two shit ones back to back
long wharf
like according to the post I should've scrapped this thing when it was green
not at all, since you got the blessing you wanted
still hearth
But idk if Surge really has two good perks.
And rolling to legendary for blessings is good.
long wharf
I guess warp nexus and warp flurry (once it gets fixed)
olive ember
well yes, but according to the post I shouldve scrapped it the moment I got +stam on the staff
still hearth
Since it seems to have a higher chance to get T4
olive ember
flurry is fixed
chrome kiln
Hi everyone, I never played the voidstrike staff (haven't found a good one) but I want to make sure of something : it's better to fully charge the attack (unlike surge) right ?
clear heath
With surge it's an interesting case of a bunch of shit it has being garbage so you don't have to be that picky with it
long wharf
And rolling to legendary for blessings is good.
this is what's not true - if you just want blessings, roll to blue and stop
olive ember
but people are still debating between flurry and terrifying barrage tbh
summer prairie
Not on surge
clear heath
like you just want warp nexus and flak perk and that's about all you're really aiming for
olive ember
I believe there was a post showing it got fixed in reddit
summer prairie
He is wrong
summer prairie
It charges faster but there is now a delay if you have nexus
That makes you lose the benefit
still hearth
this is what's not true - if you just want blessings, roll to blue and stop
How do you know.
lean python
Thoughts?
olive ember
pog FS, dunno how useful crit is on the FS tho
still hearth
We don't have data on the upgrades and anecdotally I've gotten plenty of people saying they see more T4s from going to legendary.
summer prairie
Yes, I posted a bug report with comparison videos
crystal jolt
i feel like going up to purple from a blue would be fine if it didn't also cost plasteel as well as diamatine.
summer prairie
But if you spam surge it's easy to tell there's a delay
olive ember
Ah alright well doesn't affect me since I swapped out run n gun on my staff for terrifying barrage
clear heath
shame about the finesse tho
olive ember
dunno if I wanna waste my time and patience trying to fish for a t4 crit perk or wte
long wharf
We don't have data on the upgrades and anecdotally I've gotten plenty of people ...
this is the problem - we have people reporting (and showing) getting t4 blessings on crafted blues
and people reporting and showing getting t4 blessings on crafted oranges
still hearth
Yeah you can get T4 on blues, and you can get it on oranges.
long wharf
it's all anecdotal without seeing large trials and recorded results
summer prairie
The crafting data is server side
long wharf
so in the absence of hard data, if you can get T4s on blues, there's no reason to upgrade to orange just to get T4s
clear heath
We don't have data on the upgrades and anecdotally I've gotten plenty of people ...
Honestly i kinda believe you, but i'm not sure if it's so much higher of a chance that it justifies how much more expensive it is
lilac tapir
hey guys, quick question, I'm on Steam and my wife is using my Gamepass account (this way she can try out the game first to see if she likes it without having to buy it) - how do I team up with her?
still hearth
You can't.
lean python
honestly puging dam isnt even bad now
lilac tapir
I see, another FS moment then....
still hearth
You can buy it on steam and use it for 2 hours before refunding it, at least.
long wharf
nothing to do with FartShart specifically
that said, she already can play it on Gamepass, so have her do a few runs to see
lilac tapir
well, it still sucks that she needs to buy it even through I'm paying for Gamepass that I'm not using ATM....
clear heath
I wonder how dead the lobbies are on gamepass
lilac tapir
I mean, there are games that have crossplay between Gamepass and Steam (and more platforms), so there is no excuse
that's a huge bummer...
still hearth
Its apparently not worth the effort it seems.
long wharf
I mean, there are games that have crossplay between Gamepass and Steam (and more...
it's not an automatic thing
and absolutely leads to degraded experiences for PC/Steam players
lilac tapir
I'm aware of that, still should be a release thing if they are releasing on PC... imho
long wharf
in every game I've played with console/PC crossplay
your "should be" is just an opinion
azure goblet
that'll do it for me today xD
long wharf
I'd much rather not have crossplay
still hearth
The big issue is that
Crossplay on Gamepass
Requires you to stagger updates on Steam
long wharf
that'll do it for me today xD
ffffff another one!
looks like I really should stop coding and launch Darktide to start farming my own
still hearth
Since xbox has to check updates before they go through.
lilac tapir
I'm talking about PC cross play, crossplaying with Consoles is not something I like either.
long wharf
you don't get it
still hearth
Its the same for Gamepass
long wharf
Gamepass isn't hosted on PCs
still hearth
Microsoft checks all stuff on their store.
wet jacinth
lilac tapir
I do get that, still not happy about having PC community divided
long wharf
right?
still hearth
This is the second game I've seen this with.
long wharf
kids these days expecting crossplay to be standard
still hearth
But B4B accepted crossplay
And instead the updates were staggered
So you got bugs that couldn't be hot fixed
Since it took 1 week to release an update through Microsoft
Even if they fixed it the day it was found it still was delayed.
long wharf
MS and Sony both have QA processes that patches/deployments have to go through
Steam is the only platform where developers can release a patch whenever they want
lilac tapir
Yea, it's called XR and TCR (Certification), I'm well aware of that.
long wharf
glad to see google works (and that you used it)
wet jacinth
long wharf
so now you have a deep understanding and appreciation for the intricacies of game development
and are no longer peeved that you can't crossplay between Steam and Gamepass with Darktide
lilac tapir
Well - as you said, that's just my opinion 🙂
wet jacinth
Gamepass regardless is better as a try out games before buying type thing anyhow.
long wharf
definitely
still hearth
I do think that crossplay should have been required for a game like this.
wet jacinth
And have access to a lot of them
long wharf
required? I'm so glad it isn't
long wharf
a split community isn't a problem when the community is healthy
feral crater
Every possible move is a shitty move...
still hearth
It'd always be dead on Gamepass tbh
wet jacinth
But the split community is such a shitty move tbh
Happens more often than you'd like
still hearth
That's just the Gamepass experience
long wharf
and that's never going to change
still hearth
lilac tapir
I have gamepass for more than couple of years now but I only used it to play SP games so far, all my MP experience was on Steam (or Blizzard), I guess all the years of using Steam for MP got me used to all the things we considered "granted", ah well.
long wharf
it's more that Gamepass locks you into the XBox Live network
wet jacinth
I recall a friend and I trying a game on gamepass that had crossplay.
We turned off the crossplay feature and our connection was instantly better
lilac tapir
I'm pretty sure I used to play Rocket League with my Xbox friends though (I was on Steam). So I guess it can be done, but maybe it's just tons of development time that FS doesn't have.
still hearth
There's just a lot of issues to consider with crossplay like that.
lilac tapir
looks like FS wants to implement it though (at least some online articles claim it) but for now this is pushed back due to them having their hands full fixing the game
still hearth
If they get to releasing the console version then maybe.
Though it'd still be weird for them to combine the Steam and console/gamepass version at that point.
lilac tapir
until then FS is probably going to get more of my money if my wife likes the game haha
long wharf
Though it'd still be weird for them to combine the Steam and console/gamepass ve...
they really can't do this
Steam version will always be the testbed for patches/fixes
just by virtue of there being no barrier to releasing fixes as fast as they want
still hearth
Yeah
Imagine going "ah btw your hot fixes are no delayed"
Enjoy delayed updates
fierce sinew
yeah the only way for it to be realistic (and what a lot of crossplay games eventually end up having to do) is to keep a lot of the moving parts server side, and only trust clients with the minimum required and assets that don't change often
fatshark just isn't in a technical position to run the entire game this way
strange wigeon
DT consoles will probably be like VT2 console, so different balancing, much later updates etc. We're never getting crossplay with consoles
long wharf
never forget - after two major delays, FartShart delivered Darktide in its release state that matched its open beta state while promising Live Service updates such as new subclasses every quarter
completely out of touch with what was wrong with the game
long wharf
FartShart has said we're going to get a MourningStar specific emote, where we squirt our faces with WD-40 and lay down in front of Hadron
wet jacinth
One day you log in and wonder where everyone in the mourning star is
sees them all by Hadron
long wharf
I'm not surprised (disgusted but not surprised) by Hardon simping, but what does surprise me is the lack of Sefoni simps
fierce sinew
Hadron lives in a castle made entirely of my plasteel at this point, she doesn't need anything else
Hadron living large
long wharf
with diamantine windows
fierce sinew
fr
long wharf
with a pool and everything
wet jacinth
Hadron lives in a castle made entirely of my plasteel at this point, she doesn't...
And all you get is being called "Good Varlet"
long wharf
"Are you not satisfied, Varlet?"
frank hazel
She pats you on the head
frank hazel
Oh true
daring cobalt
FYI New hunting grounds condition is a good opportunity to do Going out with a Bang
wet jacinth
terse saffron
does psykinetic's aura stack?
leaden thunder
FYI New hunting grounds condition is a good opportunity to do Going out with a B...
that's actually big brain as fuck
long wharf
yes, but only the psyker that gets the elite kill is proc'ing their psykinetic aura
multiple psykers can't get the kill on the same target
near gale
https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-k%C4%B1zg%C4%B1n-battal-k%C4%B1...
That's so cute. I love it! XD
near gale
Meanwhile I am ammused af, by it.
lusty wave
Whats the meta for psyker
long wharf
to play Veteran
lusty wave
L.fao hell nah
long wharf
coincidentally it's the same meta for all the other classes
Veterans are the favored class by FartShart
lusty wave
Is warp staff good on psyker and yes fuc fs
near gale
Veterans are the favored class by FartShart
Technically if we were considering "lore"... wouldn't vets(and maybe zealots) be more common, in general? Just wondering. <.<
Personally I don't care about lore, but, I am just asking. >.>'
near gale
And there, probably, are plenty of citizens with a "righteous" thirst for mutant and witch blood ready to take up arms as well...
viral solstice
well, veterans arent run of the mill, theyre imperial guard: action movie rules edition
long wharf
there is no shortage to mankind in the 41st millenium
near gale
there is no shortage to mankind in the 41st millenium
With how many people there are... Personally I could see there actually being as many zealots, if not more, as there are vets.
long wharf
I doubt that
near gale
Of course those zealots are probably also getting executed a lot more after use... <.<'
cuz the keep wanting to kill
long wharf
it may be illegal to not believe the emperor to be god, but that doesn't mean people don't secretly have their doubts or private thoughts
zealots are beyond simply devout
they take devotion to a whole new level
near gale
it may be illegal to not believe the emperor to be god, but that doesn't mean pe...
Maybe, but, it is also common for people to be... not as accepting to things that are different.
an example being: mutants/abhumans
long wharf
just the same, it seems to me that there are likely to be far more standard troops than there are zealots
near gale
True
long wharf
regardless, all of the Darktide class characters are above-and-beyond the average of their kind
vets are more like the elite militarum
psykers not only aren't on a black ship to the Astronomicon but they regularly fight back against demonic incursion/warp successfully
ogryns are so stereotypically stupid that a semi-intelligent one is extremely noteworthy
so it stands to reason that the zealot is also extraordinarily devout
I'm not as well versed in WH40K lore as others, but that's my take
near gale
Probably you're right.
long wharf
blood for the emperor! skulls for the golden throne!
and all that.
the zealot is halfway to worshipping Khorne anyways
near gale
Halfway? I would say we are already there and Khorne is just mascerading as the emperor for us.
long wharf
zealot doesn't talk about hearing voices, the psyker does
near gale
We seem way too eager to kill
near gale
zealot doesn't talk about hearing voices, the psyker does
Maybe they wouldn't. They might just see it as the emperor guiding them
long wharf
I dunno, I can imagine the zealot boasting about receiving divine guidance from the Emperor directly
near gale
I think it would depend on the voice line
The judge says things like "the benificent emperor guides me to healing" quite a lot
Out of all of the zealot voices I have heard, while playing darktide... I am extremely glad I chose the Judge. While it sounds like they are trying too hard... when I initially heard it I liked it the best.
It also isn't annoying.
near gale
I chose the Savant. It was the one I liked the most.
I was listening to the voices again. Oddly the way the male va says the lines sounds better to me than the way the female va does for the Zealot's Judge that is
wise pecan
My fav psyker voice is by far the… seer? Male dreamer
He’s completely insane, but also very nice :)
near gale
I might have found the one about being in a dream to be too distracting, for the psyker
long wharf
it's crazy psyker, though
the kind of crazy that gets you a one-way ticket to the Astronomicon
fierce sinew
male loner is head and shoulders above the rest for me personally
near gale
It might make more sense, but, with my adhd already making it harder to concentrate... I wouldn't take the chance.
fierce sinew
the only one that comes close to expressing the appropriate level of sarcastic disdain for my pugs
wise pecan
the kind of crazy that gets you a one-way ticket to the Astronomicon
I imagine the crazy as a result of their induction into being sanctioned
long wharf
definitely not
that level of crazy usually happens due to a traumatic event
which would have happened long before being sanctioned on the MourningStar
wise pecan
What do you think having your soul merge with a portion of the god emperor’s is if not traumatic
long wharf
what makes you think it's the god emperor?
wise pecan
And I think every psyker character was canonically on the black ships
wise pecan
what makes you think it's the god emperor?
Because that’s what sanctioning is?
long wharf
dodging was never great with the staves
wise pecan
Every sanctioned psyker is soul-bound to the emperor. Because the black ships are (almost? It’s been a minute) an unavoidable mention in psyker character creation, and since they all refer to each other as “Siblings,” we can assume that all psyker rejects are canonically Sanctioned Psykers
long wharf
I wasn't aware of that part of the lore
I thought "sanctioning" was just "official usage" aka what happens with us getting inducted into the ship crew
wise pecan
Ah yeah nah it’s an official process (though I did have to Google it again to make sure I wasn’t wrong lol)
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Sanctioned_Psyker
Such psykers are soul-bound to the Emperor, a psychic ritual that hardens their minds and souls against possession by the daemonic entities of the Warp.
fierce sinew
they do have banter lines about how traumatic the process is
worn heath
it's kind of the difference between a college wizard vs a hedge wizard in fantasy
fierce sinew
something to the effect of "you have no idea how wild that shit is" and the zealot replies something to the effect of "well it's a good thing you did it or I'd purge you myself"
supple sable
Best blessings for the zappy staff?
proud hinge
General question, is trauma or voidstrike staff better?
I've been seeing a lot of people preferring trauma recently
floral solstice
well trauma is better for mixed horde control but all staves have different strengths.
long wharf
please, the cat did nothing wrong
floral solstice
pearl delta
so... is a trauma force staff... ever worth it?
floral solstice
yeah trauma is decent
still prefer others but it's not as shit now
reroll crit damage and transfer
forest coral
its good all rounder
still hearth
Chew gun
near wyvern
Trauma is good, you want rending shockwave on it and then another blessing of your choice
You may want inner tranq and warp battery with it tho
nocturne badge
General question, is trauma or voidstrike staff better?
Void is the best all-round staff of the four. Surge has better cc, purg has better horde clear up close, but void does both well and can also snipe targets at much farther ranges
long wharf
that changes in heresy+
purge starts to out-shine void easily
void stops one-shot things without charging more than half-way
feral verge
nocturne badge
that changes in heresy+
I play it in damnation, it works just fine if you aim just above head height
unreal dust
I am suitably impressed and amazed at the volume and nature of the responses. This is a -very- friendly chat, siblings.
pine relic
solar cloak
dollar store gunners
restive slate
I've never really seen Terrifying Barrage in action, or is that just me?
coarse dagger
i guess i cant roll any higher on the last free slot
coarse dagger
I've never really seen Terrifying Barrage in action, or is that just me?
havent seen it either
fierce sinew
you don't see it work on surge much because you kill relatively few enemies with it
you see horde mobs stop, duck slightly and raise their hands when it procs
coarse dagger
cyan notch
i guess i cant roll any higher on the last free slot
u can
echo turtle
I went back to my zealot, god damn. I felt like a god after playing only my psyker for a couple weeks
coarse dagger
all the same stuff
fierce sinew
only 15
ionic frost
@coarse dagger just keep grinding and eventually it'll reroll into +12% stamina regen...just might take you a total of 40 minutes rerolling =D
cyan notch
yea 15mins is on the low end tbh lmao
echo turtle
why, are you tring to get stam regen?
floral solstice
im not even bothering maxing on my refines rn until fs improves this damn refining clickfest
echo turtle
You do know stam regen is kind of pointless on this class right?
coarse dagger
why, are you tring to get stam regen?
nope trying to get anything worth keeping
echo turtle
gunner resist imo
fierce sinew
gunner resist is a trap
echo turtle
I would also suggest not using a wound curio
lol, gunners and reapers are pretty common
fierce sinew
they are, but getting shot by them is the kid of disease you want to fix the root cause of
not bandage over
a lot like wounds
echo turtle
Look, people are taking wound curios
fierce sinew
exactly
fierce sinew
I think both are
echo turtle
gunner resist affects a lot, imo stacking it is helpful
leaden thunder
I find I tend to eat more shit from shooters rather then reapers and gunners
long wharf
sniper resist is very good
echo turtle
Gettinf just stat boosts and some corruption resist is The best though
fierce sinew
wound at least has some niche legitimate qol use to avoid flashbang screen when picking up grims
coarse dagger
no health on that curio yet, probably just roll for t4
if that exists lol.
fierce sinew
it does, you're just going to need much more than 15 minutes
leaden thunder
but sometimes you get caught in the wrong spot and a reaper will just eat you
echo turtle
an extra wound shifts you 17% down, taking a health curio does the sane
coarse dagger
it does, you're just going to need much more than 15 minutes
by the 5 rusting spires whoa t fatshark designs this stuff
fierce sinew
sadists
echo turtle
hence gunner res and sniper res is good. sometimes you get surrounded by back spawns.
If I could get X stat, + X/Y stats (health and toughess) then corruption res on every curio I’d take it
fierce sinew
I'd probably take toughness regen over corruption but otherwise agreege
coarse dagger
well i do have another blue 20% health curio
fierce sinew
or sprint efficiency
coarse dagger
gonna have to grind that up then
echo turtle
if you build for it, toughness regen is pointless
fierce sinew
probably sprint efficiency
echo turtle
Since I embraced essence harvest, toughness regen feels pointless
fierce sinew
I don't think pointless, but definitely worse
coarse dagger
4% health is best i can do lol
echo turtle
its way more regen than you get otherwise if you run either fire synergies or Barrage with CDR and use your mind bullets a lot
fierce sinew
yeah
echo turtle
4% is fine honestly
coarse dagger
until i get mats to do the new curio as replacement
echo turtle
but like you WILL eventually get the 5
coarse dagger
since wounds is useless as i have learned now
fierce sinew
emphasis on "eventually"
coarse dagger
but like you WILL eventually get the 5
why do it like this if i dont even pay mats for rolling anymore. make it all top tier stuff if you reach this point
echo turtle
LOL, the extra health has saved me from needing the wound
fierce sinew
your name may turn out prophetic in a way you don't like
coarse dagger
stop dying
im edging a bit too much sometimes
coarse dagger
restive slate
Edging too much is bad for health
echo turtle
fuck tho, I had some noob blow themselves up twice at the start of a round
fierce sinew
it's risky with the way the servers are
coarse dagger
echo turtle
go back to malice with that shot
fierce sinew
tfw you press you melee weapon key and go to push attack at 100% and your melee weapon key input gets eaten
echo turtle
I only have that issue with surge staff, since it’s such ass on perils
Stop using the FS
try a different weapon and be amazed by how much better they are
chainswords are force swords but better.
fierce sinew
FS is fine, not antax level imo but fine
meager locust
Aight odd question for the penance about suicide bombing, I assume by Elite it means specifically things like the shotgunners/gunners etc and disablers do not count yeah?
echo turtle
they do count
fierce sinew
yeah, fs is a specialized elite/bossing tool
and big fellas one at a time isn't what fail states look like in this game
meager locust
Hmm, I spose the funny dogs from the hound modifier dont then apparently :( Ah well, ty for the quick answer though
echo turtle
rule of thumb for melee weapons. With surge the axe is nice. Worh purge a single target monster like thw dagger or saber
always always always take kinetic deflection
echo turtle
This is how you psyker at high difficulty. Everytime I see a psyker in T5 with a FS they suck at melee and tend to die a lot or never use it
every non FS psyker fucking slays and tends to not die
forest coral
lmao what
forest coral
thats the hottest take ive seen in a while but aight
echo turtle
Last guy was Fs and surge. Would literally use the staff on chaff rather than melee
the worst possible staff to use on infested
forest coral
I will agree that FS takes a bit more to get used to for horde clear + needing good stats but
ye.
whole oxide
it really depends on your staff, Purg/Void don't need a melee to help horde-clear, but they do need a melee that can manage elites that get into their face, and FS is good there
fierce sinew
melee weapon is the least of that guy's worries
echo turtle
Its true, I have seen 1 FS user in T5 not take a wound curio. Being able to handle themselves well enough to take proper gear
in the last week
forest coral
most psyker clutches ive seen are with FS or duelling swords
echo turtle
melee weapon is the least of that guy's worries
XD
echo turtle
most psyker clutches ive seen are with FS or duelling swords
duelings are great
echo turtle
most psyker clutches ive seen are with FS or duelling swords
I have never witnessed a psyker clutch in T5 with a FS
floral solstice
i think that's a random player problem, not a weapon problem
restive slate
FS deflector has saved me a few times and helped me clutch, never underestimated FS since then
floral solstice
ive seen random BB ogryns dying to weak hordes and some ragers
vets dying to shooters
zealots dying to a mauler
echo turtle
So that video
floral solstice
randoms are shit, period
fierce sinew
fs push attack costing peril is part of why I think, when you're in trouble the only way for the others to straight up kill you is when the server forgets you pressed the button to pull them out so you get a 100% peril left click with staff still in hand
echo turtle
He pretty kuch doesnt use it at all, and just BBs and uses thw staff
forest coral
Fs is more for elite killing anyway
unreal dust
I've never really seen Terrifying Barrage in action, or is that just me?
So for a very long time... I had Barrage on my Purgatus and didn't think anything of it. Then the Patch rolled out and I decided to try going without it (I had Spare Purgatus on hand) and... good god the difference is like night and day. You get completely overwhelmed on Damnation without it. This is the reason you can deadstop Ragers and other Elites >.>
echo turtle
If he used an antax, he could hve cleared that horde so safely. Instead he pushes and staves
forest coral
but it can deal with hordes
echo turtle
Antax kills elites?
forest coral
just needs slaughterer
forest coral
its decent
long wharf
oh I disagree entirely
echo turtle
I have a near perfect damage sword qith T3 alaughterer
floral solstice
the fuck?
forest coral
lmb > heavy> right click cancel > rinse repeat
echo turtle
still doesnt 1 hit chaff with lights
fierce sinew
So for a very long time... I had Barrage on my Purgatus and didn't think anythin...
this isn't true, you can purglock ragers etc without terrifying barrage
long wharf
mk v combat axe does kill elites
restive slate
So for a very long time... I had Barrage on my Purgatus and didn't think anythin...
Oooh thanks for info
fierce sinew
terrifying does nothing until something dies
long wharf
that sexy penetration
floral solstice
now antax is bad vs elites?
echo turtle
lmb > heavy> right click cancel > rinse repeat
Tht combo only works if you can dodge back every time
unreal dust
terrifying does nothing until something dies
This is not a problem on High Intensity Damnation which is my preferred game mode.
forest coral
Tht combo only works if you can dodge back every time
which is just getting used to it
unreal dust
Something is ALWAYS dying
forest coral
honestly I dont quite think ur giving FS quite the correct impression
restive slate
One thing I like about FS is the dodges
floral solstice
these are the hottest takes ive seen this week
fierce sinew
yeah, but you can hold ragers etc in place without it
forest coral
it has high skill floor and ceiling
echo turtle
Like this is my point exactly. You show a video of a guy with a Fs clutching. Who avoids using the FS as much as possible
forest coral
that guy is me lmao
echo turtle
FS is objectively worse than the chainsword
echo turtle
wxcept for it has deflector
forest coral
it needs more investment
echo turtle
which if you hve skill you don’t need
forest coral
and ani cancel
unreal dust
yeah, but you can hold ragers etc in place without it
Its not just the Ragers either. Barrage functions AROUND you. Which means the 1-2 pox walkers creeping up your back are affected too. It does so much and so well. Try it. I think you'll like what you see.
echo turtle
Why not just use a dagger or axe and stunlock hordes and kill specials safely?
fierce sinew
I've used it a lot, it's fine
restive slate
I still don't understand the ani cancel on FS, is there a vid guide on it somewhere?
forest coral
Why not just use a dagger or axe and stunlock hordes and kill specials safely?
because FS literally does all that too
ill show it
gimme 5 min
echo turtle
swap weapons will cancel it
floral solstice
ahh so that's why he thinks antax doesnt kill elite
fierce sinew
it's not bad or anything, the range behind you is the best part for sure
echo turtle
ahh so that's why he thinks antax doesnt kill elite
XD
floral solstice
prolly a push attack spammer
fierce sinew
but I still probably take run n gun or flurry over it
echo turtle
push spam hits faces. its effective
long wharf
push attacking a crowd will kill the ragers and maulers among the crowd as well
fierce sinew
it's better than focused channeling though
floral solstice
lights have more dps in general
long wharf
whoever thinks the antax axe isn't good has no idea what they're talking about
echo turtle
I myself use the dagger, The dodges and single target dps is wild
floral solstice
unless ur running limb
fierce sinew
not that any of those are important enough to care about really
echo turtle
lights have more dps in general
lights out DPS heavies on everything except carapace i think
unreal dust
but I still probably take run n gun or flurry over it
I used to love Run and Gun. But I just don't find the opportunity to use it much on Damnation. There's just so meat to grind through on High Intensity.
floral solstice
yeah.
heavies pretty much for crushers and occasional rager/plogryn/etc kiting with dodge
fierce sinew
damnation is where it's the best I think, just because that's where positioning yourself correctly, quickly matters the most
and where the shooter grace delay is shortest
below damnation if you don't close in time and get shot a little bit it's big whatever
echo turtle
run and gun is funnest on a purge for sure. But nexus is best and when flurry works that would probably be ideal. Sprinting makes us take 50% more damage so sprinting at shooters is pretty idiotic
fierce sinew
nexus is the the obligatory one, the rest fight over scraps
long wharf
run-n-gun isn't worth the blessing slot
echo turtle
We hve Bb and a skill that gives you 30% regen on Bb kills. Why close with shooters?
take your time, pick them apart.
long wharf
run and gun is funnest on a purge for sure. But nexus is best and when flurry wo...
you shouldn't be sprinting without sliding anyways
fierce sinew
you close with them to stop them shooting
echo turtle
If thats your style
take the dagger
run faster and get huge speed boost on the attack
one shoot heavies to the face. It’s effective. Run and gun is fun tho I used to use it
fierce sinew
running melee weapon in hand and swapping once in left click range is the pattern otherwise yeah
I don't use it all the time, but it at least give additional options
echo turtle
There arent that many situations where closing is the smarter thing than BBs when dealing with shootera
especially if using say, a FS lol
fierce sinew
terrifying is in a category with focused where most of the time it does exactly nothing, you play a fight out exactly the same
forest coral
input is light attack>heavy>right click cancel> rinse repeat for hordes
fierce sinew
especially if using say, a FS lol
I hardly ever fs
spice veldt
it's fun to run into a group of shooters and melee them
restive slate
input is light attack>heavy>right click cancel> rinse repeat for hordes
Ohhh the block cancel, yea I do that too. It helps so much, I thought you meant cancelling the special attacks animation
forest coral
oh nah you cant cancel that
restive slate
If we could tho, FS op haha
forest coral
absolutely
spice veldt
the only trick you can do is sliding while you're special-ing an enemy
forest coral
only thing people sleep on is you dont actually need to special to kill every heavy
spice veldt
since that's your only way of moving while in the special anim on an enemy
echo turtle
I hardly ever fs
I keep taking it to see how it feels and if I can change my mind on it, and it’s always a let down
restive slate
The first heavy on FS has great head tracking
spice veldt
1st heavy is finicky to me, since i need to look a little up to consistently hit headshots
echo turtle
Keemo, have you seen the DPS a dagger with lacerate and mercy kill can put out?
restive slate
Also I was surprised that the little poke FS has at the end does surprising amount of dmg
echo turtle
its double the first two in the chain yes
forest coral
Keemo, have you seen the DPS a dagger with lacerate and mercy kill can put out?
i have
echo turtle
that stab is deadly, its what usually actually kills stuff
forest coral
the only issue i have with knife in general
spice veldt
3rd light has an interesting synergy with uncanny strike because of its low armour mod against maniac and whatnot
forest coral
is that it requires headshots and the horde clear is less than desirable
echo turtle
is that it requires headshots and the horde clear is less than desirable
the horde clear is better than the FS. but its not great
unreal dust
damnation is where it's the best I think, just because that's where positioning ...
I still just find the Suppression too useful to ignore casually. And yes, Nexus is an absolute must-have. nods
restive slate
What's mercy kill again? I forgor
forest coral
the horde clear is better than the FS. but its not great
worse if the fs has slaughterer
floral solstice
weakspot
echo turtle
worse if the fs has slaughterer
lol thats incorrect
each push attack should drop a zombo
you can push attack faster than the fs can tickle
no need to dodge etc
its very quick
spice veldt
FS has diagonals that will cleave into other enemies
forest coral
^
echo turtle
like 100 damage cleaves through to enemy 2
spice veldt
and if you don't like the 1st light, you can always do the 1st heavy instead for an overhead with more cleave and headshot magnetization
echo turtle
and that attack is slooooow
fierce sinew
the problem the fs has is where the cleaves are in the chain, if heavy 2 were heavy 1 then slaughterer fs would be so much better horde clear
floral solstice
delete psyker and play BB ogryn w/ slaughterer or HS zealot with headtaker problem solved bois
restive slate
Also not saying Antax is bad, it's good shit. Just that FS can be really strong too just needs tenderloving care put into it
spice veldt
probably better to heavy->heavy->light until you get slaughterer stacks up
i put bloodthirsty on my slaughterer FS sword so that I can just get my initial stacks up really quickly
forest coral
it needs alot more practice to be good with it
but its definitely up there in terms of strong options
whole oxide
the point of FS isn't to be a horde-slaying monster, its clearly meant to be primarily defensive
forest coral
and dont discount its default elite damage without specials, its very versatile once you know it inside out
viral solstice
no matter what i do with the void staff it just feels kinda wack
im praying surge changes that
echo turtle
I’ll link my meatgrinder to show you what a dagger can do
unreal dust
no matter what i do with the void staff it just feels kinda wack
Voidstrike suffers on high difficulty without good rolls
restive slate
My Voidstrike strat is just aim above heads haha
forest coral
Im still wondering if animation cancelling voidstrike is worth it
whole oxide
I like Void, but it really doesn't have any purpose
echo turtle
viral solstice
ive got good rolls and tier 4 warp flurry on it
its just not that good as a ranged weapon
except when u get to yeet down corridors
restive slate
Im still wondering if animation cancelling voidstrike is worth it
Just for hordes imo
viral solstice
and u get the fun noises
whole oxide
the only thing Void is actually good at is non-mixed hordes, and they're never a threat anyway
fierce sinew
even those purg handles better unless they're in a fairly specific formation and distance away
restive slate
I wanna build a Trauma with Rending, hope it'll be good
fierce sinew
if more parts of more maps were torrent bridge etc then it would be better
echo turtle
and dont discount its default elite damage without specials, its very versatile ...
How is your sword dealing 1500 to the muties on a weakspot hit?
fierce sinew
they just aren't
viral solstice
i mean they take triple damage
echo turtle
mine is rolled near perfect on damage, finesse and first target but does only 770
restive slate
Slaughterer really helps
forest coral
I also have +25% maniac damage as a perk
spice veldt
i do around 1k headshots on a base +maniac FS with psyk's wrath
echo turtle
cant rely on that
floral solstice
i wouldnt be surprised if slaughterer gets nerfed tbh but i dont want to lol
spice veldt
so I can 4-shot a mutant with heavy headshots
restive slate
2s lasts forever in a horde
echo turtle
I also have +25% maniac damage as a perk
yeah but that doesnt account for the 2x
viral solstice
25% and full slaughterer should be 2x
forest coral
proabbly slaughterer
echo turtle
Most of the time slaughterer will not be procced going after a mutie in game
restive slate
Thus, FS requires tenderloving care
spice veldt
in situations where the damage counts, slaughterer could be stacked before hitting a mutant
echo turtle
whats the damage without slaughterer procced?
cuz, that is what the sword will be doing ina real situation
forest coral
like dont get me wrong, knife is great i just dont like it for hordes
restive slate
For mutie I like to dodge and special heavy it as it runs past
echo turtle
Yeah, it's annoying for hordes, but better than a fs
restive slate
Knife is great for hordes, not great for my carpal tunnel hahaha
spice veldt
how much does a knife push-attack cleave
floral solstice
not really hard to proc slaughterer especially on hi5
whole oxide
unless you're Surge, why you trying to melee a horde?
echo turtle
You wont have it when a mutie tosses you, or you are dodging it
dodging a mutie then running at it is longer than 2 seconds
in game, you wont have it.
spice veldt
if you're dodging and going back to hitting a horde, then you might have it
floral solstice
meh, whon struggles with sole muties anyway
forest coral
Stat wise I will admit the sword im using is goated, and FS definitely needs slaughterer to not be a complete meme in hordes
floral solstice
in a mixed horde yet they get annoying
restive slate
I hit a mutie as it runs pass not chase after it lol
forest coral
floral solstice
but by then you're already getting stacks
spice veldt
easier to maintain slaughterer stacks if you're not the main target
restive slate
Sexy
spice veldt
probably just the +maniac
spice veldt
we all agreed that 1.5k was because of the slaughterer mate
that was already done and done
floral solstice
already said just now
spice veldt
scroll up if you missed three people saying it was because of slaughterer
echo turtle
Look, we hve had two videos linked to show how good a fs is
forest coral
yeah and most likely in any t5 scenario you would have warp stacks going
echo turtle
one had basically no FS use and the other was just “look how good it can be if the stars align”
floral solstice
if it's a lone mutie who bumps a wall then lmao who cares about dps when 3 other people are gangbanging it
restive slate
Oh yea I forgot about warp stacks LOL
spice veldt
you discount the slaughterer blessing so much man; with it, the FS is better because the light and heavy will cleave quite a few enemies
at its base, lights cleave 3 groaners and 2 poxwalkers, heavies cleave around 5 groaners and I haven't tested it on poxwalkers
I don't really get the "sword stuck" anim except on extremely dense hordes at locations where enemies climb or dropdown or some tight area
echo turtle
you can’t rely on slaughterer being up and judge the weapon based on that being up
spice veldt
when we're talking about hordes, sure we can
restive slate
I can't wait for the day, the axe and fs lovers shake hands when Force Axe gets released... Hopefully
echo turtle
hey, I’ll go proc lacerate with the knife first then show only shots of the buffed damage to compare the
forest coral
i dunno, i treat FS needing slaughterer like Antax needing BM really
they kinda just enable a weapons full potential if anything
without it its like half the weapon in both regard
floral solstice
slaughterer not being that hard to proc especially on hi5 with lots of smaller shit around is the point
dunno how much i need to repeat lol
and yes im talking about actual gameplay
spice veldt
and against mutants, FS is good because you can deal a decent amount of damage regardless of your positioning; you don't need to be in front of a staggered mutant and hit headshots to DPS him down
good hordeclear, and it's ok against mutants
i primarily melee, so I prefer the better hordeclear
restive slate
Also worse to worse, go FS and Surge
Mutant no problem
I realize i havent been giving the duelling swords love, now that we can make different build sets I wanna make my fencing Psyker
safe crystal
Adding into the mix here real quick, if using purgatus, slaughterer procs on soul blaze kills when you switch to FS. Having full stack slaughterer is extremely easy in normal gameplay against a random mutant charging through a horde
echo turtle
Dagger has better base damage, and has a more reliable damage buff.
A FS with max slaughterer with a heavy does the same amount of damage as a Dagger heavy hitting with Mercy killer
Dagger Heavies are Waaaaaaaay faster, maybe 1.5 to 2x the speed of FS heavies. Dagger dps and horde clear is significantly better.
pine relic
I went back to my zealot, god damn. I felt like a god after playing only my psyk...
But can you fight three shotgunners
echo turtle
yea
You can fight anything with a dagge, it only sucka va carapace. But like, BB exists
floral solstice
i dont think ive seen anyone disagree that a well rolled dagger has good dps
but to say fs is bad just because of those points?
yeah that's what started all this shit
pine relic
Nope. I no longer use knife, it has terrible stagger unless you hit weak point
floral solstice
ive seen you say that fs is bad multiple times here
and yet most psykers i run with here use FS and they dont "hit the floor" as often as you keep mentioning earlier
dude keeps saying even before that people shouldnt use FS just because dagger dps more, okay dude lol
pine relic
tbh knife is one of the worst weapons to fight shotgunners and trappers, especially in the horde.
spice veldt
with psyk's wrath and if I quell down to 17% with a 75dmg/80first_target FS and +20% maniac, I deal 2001 damage against a mutant on a light-special on bodyshots, enough to two-shot them
ah wait nvm 13% is the peril generated from an 80% warp res
i'd probably hit the breakpoint with +25% maniac at 13% peril presumably
echo turtle
tbh knife is one of the worst weapons to fight shotgunners and trappers, especia...
That is objectively wrong
you can block push into and through a horde to get at them.
spice veldt
huh, the FS heavies cleave 5 poxwalkers
pine relic
FS is also bad if you don't have slaughter.
viral solstice
force sword has surprisingly good cleave in general
its animations are what make it a bit jank
if ur willing to have a seizure
u can make the lights hit a huge amount
echo turtle
it doesnd much past target 1 and the attacks are slow
viral solstice
yeah but basically no attacks do much past target one, bar a few exceptions
eg devil claw heavy cleaves are down to like 20 damage by target 3
target damage distribution is really weird
floral solstice
dude gets shitty pubs and blames it on the weapon because weapon tests suggests that everyone and their mother should run knife
like please, FS is NOT bad, simple as lul
viral solstice
in fact theres quite a few weapons where weird target distribution damage makes certain attacks better to use vs eg 3 targets with others better vs 5+
echo turtle
a chainsword outperforms it in every way, But yall need crutchflector
viral solstice
eg on heavy sword VI the diagonal upswing does really big damage to second target
restive slate
Starting to feel like a Vet Channel lol
floral solstice
even said antax vant kill elites
viral solstice
i havent tested force sword enough to know how the distribution for all its attacks goes
floral solstice
i cant tell if you're just trolling now
spice veldt
i don't even use deflector
echo turtle
even said antax vant kill elites <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Thts not what I was saying
viral solstice
fire sword, fire sword, does whatever a fire sword can
pine relic
I didn't use deflector, but that damn shotgunner
echo turtle
antax is solid
forest coral
I want firesword back from vermintide
pine relic
I had enough of them
forest coral
viral solstice
i mean chain cancelling the one heavy got a bit old
fire sword but COOLER
because its turquoise fire
and uhhh
psychic
restive slate
I want firesword back from vermintide
Must fire slap heretics
echo turtle
Ranni, I am loving the ad hominem to defend the FS. Two could play at that game though. Is that how you wanna do this or can we talk about the merits of the weapons?
floral solstice
but back to your point, nah, FS isn't bad. this isn't some antax vs chainaxe thing. FS is still good.
pine relic
Also, this is one of the most annoying mobs for psykers.
echo turtle
The lack there of
floral solstice
now you want to discuss it?
echo turtle
Its a bad chainsword
floral solstice
literally so many people have been replying to you
that takes it outside of meatgrinder lmao
spice veldt
my FS goes down to 43 bodyshot damage for the last two cleave targets on a 2nd heavy
echo turtle
Bruh, the only one of you that can actually take a clip performing in damnation
spice veldt
without
viral solstice
yeah thats really not bad
spice veldt
75dmg/80 first target with perks against infested
echo turtle
Shows them doing everything possible to avoid actually using the weapon in combat
floral solstice
Bruh, the only one of you that can actually take a clip performing in damnation
what do i get if i record a full hi5 game of me using it?
echo turtle
I would LOVE that. Show me actually doing will with it in melee
floral solstice
ive been doing this shit since dota lan days, proving people wrong just because they're too arrogant to agree
restive slate
Funny is that were not even discounting the effectiveness of other weapons, just stating FS is not to be underestimated
echo turtle
I want to see, I’ll force myself to@learn it
cold geode
Does decapitator actually work properly? Or is it bugged?
floral solstice
ok what do i get for the effort?
pine relic
they are potheads
It's literally just a steel mask, yet it's flak armour
floral solstice
you changing your mind?lmao
echo turtle
ok what do i get for the effort?
You want stakes?