#psyker-class

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maiden wolf
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Crits might be good if you get blazing spirit later.

long wharf
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you can actually take a good number of hits

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if you really lean into block efficiency for KD

long wharf
maiden wolf
long wharf
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transfer peril and warp nexus

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or transfer peril and warp flurry when it gets fixed

maiden wolf
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indeed

long wharf
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or transfer peril and surge, which will easily out damage warp nexus

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but surge is the second rarest psyker blessing

maiden wolf
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I'm the kind of person that like trying niche builds, as futile as they may be

long wharf
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psyker has 19 ranged weapons in the weapon pool

maiden wolf
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What about surge with warp nexus?

long wharf
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you aren't going to be critting enough to feel like a real cannon

maiden wolf
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tru

long wharf
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and transfer peril is what keeps you shooting indefinitely

maiden wolf
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I really enjoy transfer peril

restive slate
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Just not transfer Peril on Trauma

shy warren
restive slate
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Wow that warp resistance, gonna be quelling a lot

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But other stats look good

slow karma
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They're not

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Run and gun is mid at best, crit damage is worthless on purge staves and poxwalkers sure don't need any damage rolls to die to the flames

manic needle
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Since when is crit damage worthless on Purgatus?

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Oh let me re-read what I wrote

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Crit chance is what you're looking for, yeah. Damage is really, really bad.

slow karma
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Yeah this is a miss

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You an scrape that warp nexus off it at least

manic needle
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AFAIK FLurry has always worked on Voidstrike

shadow wigeon
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Huh, some folks said it wasn't.

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I gotta use this staff more...

slow karma
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It should be working on everything it can roll on, the fact that it doesn't in this patch is asinine

maiden wolf
untold isle
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the hell do i do with this when it comes to perk/blessings

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carapace into maniac?

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blazing spirit into slaughterer?

shadow wigeon
cyan notch
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45k plasteel later

slow karma
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Meh. I have more important things to do with my time than lament this game and fatshark's ineptitude

forest coral
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isnt blazing spirit kinda mid rn

forest coral
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is this for force swrd?

cyan notch
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yea

forest coral
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i want it wtf

shadow wigeon
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Those are reasonable mods, but those blessings aren't great in general. Great rolls of course...

slow karma
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precog is too much micro, especially now

cyan notch
slow karma
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I will never have enough plasteel to fish for anything

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It's an inconsistent farm at best

untold isle
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is crit chance even good? when i was messing around in the meatgrinder it seemed like crit dmg only gets applied to the base dmg of the attack, not the bonus damage granted by the activation

slow karma
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I just play untl I have a stockpile and then burn it all

untold isle
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like a crit was 60 more dmg compared to a non crit

cyan notch
slow karma
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I mean I also don't get shit for ingots yet

manic needle
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Oh wow they actually made re-rolling perks worse somehow

slow karma
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need to swap out my spread of weeklies but I have like 4 of them half finished from the last unpatched batch

shadow wigeon
slow karma
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?

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How did they make it worse? they didn't change perk rolling.

manic needle
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Now I have to re-select the perk every time I want to re-roll it

slow karma
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Oh ok

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Weird, I never noticed that

shadow wigeon
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But weakspot = same as crit for FS... so you're best off going for WS and crits are bonus.

manic needle
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Goddamn this is annoying

slow karma
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Eh, I'm used to games making me click incessantly but I do hope that gets changed

blissful mural
rocky cedar
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BS will be held back by its low proc rate at least until warp nexus is fixed

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Oh wait FS BS

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Still seems super questionable

acoustic trench
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I assume this purgatus isn't half bad. I don't damage stat matters all that much, only thing missing is quell speed.

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I assume I'd wanna put blazing spirit on the other blessing slot?

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Or should I just surrender is for war nexus and hope for a better state line on a new purgatus plus a good blessing

maiden wolf
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you can then put focused chanelling on it, or if/when you get a focused channelling one with better stats, you can sacrifice it for the warp nexus.

acoustic trench
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Does the damage stat matter on the purgatus?

maiden wolf
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not really, stacks are what matter

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damage helps, but it barely changes at max level

acoustic trench
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So burn? What about Cloud radius?

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I assume I want both those very high

maiden wolf
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yeah

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Burn and cloud radius are most important

slow karma
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Yeah that's a solid staff at a baseline

maiden wolf
acoustic trench
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I have Focus channeling so should I just put in this one?

slow karma
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Once you take it to Transcendant, yes.

acoustic trench
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Thanks for the advice guys

azure goblet
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How do I even choose between these... also have T2 Slaughterer available to drop around, but waiting for a T4 for that

rose lily
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So on base stats alone who would prefer the left over the right one?

azure goblet
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not much difference, would save my mats for a better base

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i.e. look at those 8 force swords that survived the 300 i bought

clear heath
azure goblet
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yeah it is dump stat, actually helps to have it low so u can ramp up peril for dmg sometimes

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or for quell toughness regen

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so slaughterer on the 498 total rating?

clear heath
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yeah

azure goblet
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oh i messed one up

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2 is a repeat

clear heath
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this is the one i use and i love it

azure goblet
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this is supposed to be the 2nd one

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was considering Slaughterer on that

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for 95% dmg if i get a good slaughterer

clear heath
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well, you'd have to be ok with not using deflector if you use that one

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depends on playstyle

azure goblet
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though doing the math i think Shred with Riposte actually comes out to about 126.5% extra dmg average on a max FS

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assuming u can keep the dodge buff up

clear heath
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I love slaughterer on fs much i can't give it up now

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power increases cleave so it feels so good when horde clearing

azure goblet
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ohh didnt realize that

clear heath
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yeah power is damage cleave and stagger

azure goblet
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i just kinda figure if im using deflector i might as well run it with Exorcist to quell for toughness, go max tanky that way

clear heath
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that works too
i just personally don't want to give up slaughterer

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it's just so strong

forest coral
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Slaughterer makes diagonal heavy attacks on fs feel like mini antaxe bm attacks

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Just staggers the horde with each hit on top of your funny magic pushes and clenches

azure goblet
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thats hott

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yeah ive not found a good one ever so i havent even used it lol

forest coral
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yeah not to mention if you add flank or maniac damage onto the sword, you dont even need the specials half the time to deal with humanoid elites

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albeit its still faster to use the special but ye

azure goblet
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i think for me the 4 perfect FS combos are:
Slaughterer w/Unstable Power
Deflector w/Exorcist
Blazing Spirit w/Shred or Riposte
Shred w/Riposte

forest coral
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for blazing spirit tho

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whats the best way to make it owrk

azure goblet
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honestly im playing with new riposte still ill let u know

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cuz normally you do the 2 strike combo and push to horde clear

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that messes up Shred stacks

forest coral
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yeah

azure goblet
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so im playing with riposte to see if it works better

forest coral
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like on paper it sounds good for ascendant blaze builds but in practice

clear heath
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Idk about reposte since it got buffs
but yeah shred blazing spirit is pretty bad imo

forest coral
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things just die before they get set alight or things that are alight dont really get hurt by 2 blaze stacks

clear heath
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imagine swinging like 8 times to apply a few stacks of soulblaze

forest coral
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yeah exactly

azure goblet
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well

forest coral
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swing 8 times vs, use ascendant blaze with 6 warp stacks once or just light attack with a purg

azure goblet
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look at my 8 sword up there

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the last one drops 4 stacks on crit

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i think it might work better but i just rolled it, have to try tomorrow

forest coral
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precog isnt really that good of a skill tho

azure goblet
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if i ever get a Bloodthirsty that might be the combo though, special attack, get 100% crit, land a hit for blazing spirit burn

forest coral
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yeah true

azure goblet
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oh yeah i can reroll the precog obviously

clear heath
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from what i've heard, bloodthirsty gives crits for the next 5 seconds after special kill

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might actually make blazing spirit useful

azure goblet
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yeah

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thats perfect then

forest coral
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The way i see the burn being good is if blaze + bloodthirsty and it sets things alight with cleave

azure goblet
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u can clear a whole horde that way probly

forest coral
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then it will actually be kinda nuts

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yeah

azure goblet
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i mean

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ive tested blazing spirit enough

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it does cleave and hit quite a few guys

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on the right swing

forest coral
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hmm

azure goblet
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so then

forest coral
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i mean my sword as t3 blazing atm not by choice

slow karma
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This sounds fun

azure goblet
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you run it with kinetic overload

forest coral
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Probably could be something yeah

azure goblet
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and the stacks light more elites on fire

slow karma
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I'm ghonna have to fux with force sword farming for a while

forest coral
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Bloodthirsty procc > Blazing sword

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this can open up ascendant blaze builds to other things other than purg

azure goblet
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yeah i got like 20 T3 blazings before i just got this T4

forest coral
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and still maintain its effectiveness to an extent

azure goblet
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yeah i think

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ill probly run it with trauma staff

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since it consistently gives 3 stacks now

forest coral
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ye

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surge sounds pretty good with it too

azure goblet
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umm

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i just tested today

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looks like they ninja nerfed that

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when you crit with surge now and swap to FS it doesnt light em on fire

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i was very sad

forest coral
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lame

azure goblet
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this is giving me consistent stacks even without the sword

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i think blazing spirit doesnt give stacks as much on voidstaff cuz you have to be fairly close when they die

forest coral
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Hmm

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so maybe

azure goblet
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as you might notice if u ever use ascendant blaze and run off

forest coral
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Blast up to 95% + peril

azure goblet
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you tend to get like 0-1 charge back

forest coral
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and start chopping away you reckon?

azure goblet
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yeah probly

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get that 15% dmg maybe

forest coral
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Already using it

azure goblet
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if doing damnation

forest coral
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but yea, this sounds viable

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in damnation ascendant blaze almost always returns full 6 warp stacks to you if used properly

azure goblet
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we'll see i guess lol

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well

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ive lit like 200 enemies on fire with AB in damnation but if i run the other way i dont always get many charges back

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so i suspect there's a max radius to player to get charges back but idk for sure

forest coral
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There's no limit right

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i know its a cone

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but its everything to its max range and radius afaik

azure goblet
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no limit to targets hit as long as theyre in the aoe

forest coral
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yeah

azure goblet
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but i mean

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u might have to be within a certain distance when they die to get a chance for a warp charge

forest coral
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oooh

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Dont think so right unless its like a coherency thing

azure goblet
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idk im just speculating

forest coral
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not sure, its always been a fire and forget thing for me

azure goblet
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could be horrid luck several times

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to get 0 charges from an entire horde

forest coral
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Should be just luck

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yea

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Then again i almost always run psychic communion in that build

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so might be my team mates helping on top of it

azure goblet
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yeah when i take off communion and test in meat grinder i dont get charges if i shoot it off and run the other way generally

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or get like 1 charge

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aight i gotta sleep

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gnite brethren

forest coral
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rest well!

split oxide
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I want Deflector. Do I move it to another one.. or move something else to it?
Or do I just use one

forest coral
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comes down to if you really need deflector in your playstyle

azure goblet
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keep deflector on that one to the right i say

forest coral
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you could consider moving slaughter into the third sword

azure goblet
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put slaughterer or something on it

forest coral
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yeah

azure goblet
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that extra 2% on the dmg stat is like 0.5 dmg it doesnt matter

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first strike does more than dmg stat for FS

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and warp resistance is throwaway

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mobility is too low on the left sword

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wont be able to kite demonhost

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or boop poxbursters consistently enough

split oxide
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The Finesse one number 1 is good too?

azure goblet
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it is but barely better

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with bad mobility and lower first strike

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and

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u would be replacing deflector for an extra 6% block its not worth

split oxide
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I've NEVER been able to kite demonhosts.. that would be intersting

azure goblet
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you go sideway around a pillar or something

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can do it in the open with around 75%+ mobility FS

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by hopping sideways

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but

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ur teammates always fail to hit it and run out of ammo when u do it that way

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so it takes like 10 mins for them to kill it or fail you and die

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but yeah u can do it lol

cyan notch
azure goblet
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can occasionally get a hit in if ur good

split oxide
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oh - so deflector3 is important then

azure goblet
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true blooddrunk

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also perks for the right sword are better rubbercable

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its a better sword than the left one

obtuse crypt
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every fucking time it's always me and the ogryn i play with left cause other p[layers suck on heresy Sitgryn they need to go back to malice

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thank fuck for dueling sword and voidstrike

split oxide
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Cool. thanks

obtuse crypt
obtuse crypt
azure goblet
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okay i might eventually put Bloodthirsty on this, so which perk would you throw away?

forest coral
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precog

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is that even a question

azure goblet
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perk

slow karma
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Malice isn't teaching people how to play on heresy

forest coral
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Oh

azure goblet
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not blessing lol

forest coral
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specialists

azure goblet
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cuz these fuckin perks man

forest coral
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yeah

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BIS is a pipe dream in this game, like a gacha roll

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at least we aint swiping

obtuse crypt
forest coral
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play on damnation and they shall learn quick

slow karma
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Wel I don't se that happening until they up the top end

forest coral
azure goblet
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k thought i might be crazy to keep the 2 perk but i guess not lol

slow karma
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If they can't handle heresy, they sure as fuck ren't handling damnation

forest coral
split oxide
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Is blazing spirit that useful?

  1. you shouldn't be in meat-potatoes combat.
  2. if you haven't nuked it in 1-3 hits you're SOL
slow karma
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Depends.

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We're entertaining the thought of pairing it with bloodthirsty for guaranteed's crits for X seconds

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It's not about being useful so much as being a usable build

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and you know damn well that sounds fun

clear heath
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honestly i think it would still be worse at horde clear than just going slaughterer, but it sounds interesting

azure goblet
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i mean if u can ramp warp charges from it with ascendent blaze

floral solstice
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new patch but shieldgryns still exist in my t5 pugs

azure goblet
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then you can toss coherency 4% charges for 15% ult cooldown and spam blaze

slow karma
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Sure, I doubt it's gonna excel at anything but do we really care?

azure goblet
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4-6 stack ascendant blazes every 10 secs? sure why not

slow karma
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We kinda gotta find our fun where we can right now

forest coral
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let us get our discount firesword back

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so we can cosplay sienna

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because that shit was strong af

split oxide
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BTW: what is 'power'? Is that 'damage stat'?

slow karma
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It's a few things

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Damage, cleave, and stagger all t once

forest coral
slow karma
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at*

forest coral
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therefore good build

split oxide
slow karma
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Yeah Power is pretty juicy

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That's why it's values are so small

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It does a lot

rocky cedar
gilded viper
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Anyone playing with Trauma at all? Is it any fun?

rocky cedar
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Slaughterer says hi

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So does head taker on heavy sword

azure goblet
forest coral
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Wish it was still better tho

gilded viper
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Yah, I guess I'm just getting bored of Purge, wanted to mix it up a little, but I think Surge is dull

forest coral
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Surge only fun with a team that does damage

gilded viper
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We need a mk of Surge that does damage and high target count over CC

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Fun Surge

split oxide
gilded viper
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I could just do Close range Trauma, less awkward AOE aiming

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Can still pew pew with the left click

azure goblet
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k gnite fr

forest coral
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I like using the trauma dont get me wrong

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and my highest stat staff is actually a trauma one

split oxide
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g night

gilded viper
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No Trauma could totally get some love

split oxide
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ty all

gilded viper
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I agree

forest coral
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just been too many instances where its like, I wish i had x over this

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or I could have saved this player if i had anyting else

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that kind of situation lol

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or man, I love my shieldgryn and maul zealots doing no damage

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and I aint killing fast enough

supple grove
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what are s tier blessings on surge staff?

gilded viper
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Yah Power Maul and Crusher's damage leaves a lot to desire

gilded viper
forest coral
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warp flurry not really working at the moment

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so currently im using critical nexus + terrifying barrage

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may as well add some more cc during horde phase

supple grove
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any opinions on left or right? higher damage better?

indigo quarry
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power

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Shit, this was meant to be a search lmao.

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Honestly, you have higher crit rolls on the right one.

forest coral
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ye, the quell speed should be able to cover up for the lower warp res

green phoenix
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which perk do i reroll

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tryin to figure out if the staff is good or not, or should i go for a better roll

supple grove
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thanks I was leaning towards right

floral solstice
floral solstice
green phoenix
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thx

maiden wolf
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Well I'm not so excited about either of these after the Psyker nerfs. But I was originally going to caption the axe with "Armour? I barely know 'er!"

still hearth
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Thunderous is nice if you use purge and swap to the axe

maiden wolf
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Shiiiit, I'm having deja vu

still hearth
maiden wolf
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I swear you've told me this exact thing a long time ago

still hearth
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Thunderous being capped at 8 stacks is

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Really bad

maiden wolf
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My thought was that it serves as a good support tool

still hearth
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40% Rending isn't great, except for Lasgun Veterans KEKW_ogryn

maiden wolf
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If I'm surge-botting, might as well be debuffing as well.

still hearth
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The only issue with the Rending stuff is that either people have armor pen

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Or they won't hit carapace anyway

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Or they're lasgun Vets

marsh ermine
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Ur a lasgun vet

still hearth
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40% Rending can be decent but most of the time it adds so little

stable nacelle
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what do people run on their curios

still hearth
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Health or Toughness. Sniper resistance, revive speed.

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Then whatever else I'm lucky enough to get

marsh ermine
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Lasgun efficient

maiden wolf
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Wounds if you're a troglodyte (I'm a troglodyte)

marsh ermine
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15%

stable nacelle
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nah I never guns on a class that has staves

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💀

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fuck that

still hearth
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Always gun

maiden wolf
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Stamina was good for blocking and high aggro builds

still hearth
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Just imagine them as funny looking staves

maiden wolf
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complain complain complain

still hearth
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High aggro animevillainlaugh5

marsh ermine
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Redline build

still hearth
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You mean suicidal playstyles?

stable nacelle
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nah more like team doesnt know how to pace playstyles

marsh ermine
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Yeah, I hate teams that rush

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Every nook

maiden wolf
marsh ermine
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And cranny

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Must be sought out

stable nacelle
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I am not against checking places

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but there is shitters to kill

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you can search after

marsh ermine
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XD

stable nacelle
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I like to push with psyker cause I have deflector force sword and purgatus

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so when I see people slacking

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I am just 💀

stable nacelle
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like you have so much control with purgatus and F

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dont see the point of just chilling

spice veldt
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i just rush ahead because my teammates end up just trailing me whenever I go search off the beaten path

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so I just say "fuck it" and just go kill or aggro enemies ahead

stable nacelle
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would do the same but havent played in 2 months so the curios I have are just KEKW_ogryn

slow karma
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I'm sorry but there is zero reason for the director to just throw wave after wave, after wave after wave of enemies at us before we even get into the final phase of a mission

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Fatshark fix your shit

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God I fucking hate wasting time like that

still hearth
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If its the special ammo mission then that one is definitely bugged

slow karma
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Yeah it's fucked

still hearth
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Just gotta push into the last section right away basically

slow karma
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Well now that I know I'll just fucking avoid it until they patch it

wet belfry
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I do suspect comms plex to also be bugged

slow karma
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ugh

wet belfry
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The middle event is insane compared to most things in the game

slow karma
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I wanna play this game so badly but it does everything in its power to piss me off

still hearth
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That's just comms plex

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It's always been a mess

wet belfry
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Ye we got to the elevator section yesterday and clicked the button and pulled back

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They kept spawning enemys

slow karma
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I've never once had this happen to me

wet belfry
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We never entered the elevator btw.

slow karma
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Not to say I dont believe you guys it's just agitating how inconsistent this shit can be

wet belfry
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It may have been a mistake to pull back.

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But its kinda like do you want possible death or possible death?

floral solstice
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i've seen some people camp the gunners spawn area on that mid event and that trivialized the whole event

wet belfry
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We did that in the early section

floral solstice
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though we didnt do that on my previous hi5 run and still went okay

wet belfry
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Ive no doubt it works. But its dangerous to move between the room.

floral solstice
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by camping i mean one guy literally stayed at that area on the whole interrogator part

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he didnt go back and forth to machine

wet belfry
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Mmm ye too risky.

floral solstice
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cant remember but prolly an agripinaa vet

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eh, i guess depends on how much you can handle it

wet belfry
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Keep in mind this was in true duo

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We were 2 people not 4

floral solstice
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cool

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most people play 4

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but cool

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just saying that the camping trick on normal 4 man pugs work.

wet belfry
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It would work on 2 aswell i think with a differnent gear set/skill set, class setup.

kindred anchor
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that map is bugged rn the enemies at back dont spawn/come into area

feral crater
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Anyone got a quick cheatsheat for what is dump stat in each weapon?

raw coral
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can i just say, t4 and up? one room at a time yall, dont aggro literally the whole map

spice veldt
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no

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because it's boring and horde events aggro pre-spawned enemies on the map anyways

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would you rather fight enemies with or without a horde

golden tartan
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Iirc

half iron
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take all of them at once.
in a fight btw

golden tartan
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So its about as hard.

wet belfry
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From what ive seen it doesnt really reduce anything.

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You can still get a special wave with 5 specials.

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The elite spawn at comms plex should also be about the same?

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I know for a fact it spawned 5 shotgunners in one row at true duo during the mid event.

golden tartan
golden tartan
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That place can shit out 8

wet belfry
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Best to just try ingame at the same location.

golden tartan
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Oh I know that location

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Its one of the most cursed locations in the game

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The moment u finish and hit the elevator button the game vomits shotgunners around the corner

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Or gunners

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If ur unlucky u get pure shotgunners, if ur lucky u get a mix

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5 specials on damnation as a high point also sounds about right for a halfish spawn

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Like on 4 man u can get about 8+

wet belfry
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I can test later if comms plex is able.

golden tartan
#

If u want a hard game dont play true duo

#

Play duo with bots

#

Bots count as active players and push the difficulty WAY the fuck up

raw coral
#

and then watch you explode on the floor

#

that one right at the start of the furnace mission

spice veldt
#

at the first daemoneye?

#

better to aggro enemies anyways or they'll come from everywhere

#

i'm not fond of surprise crushers

#

or a shooter patrol from behind after you move to the next section

raw coral
#

yeah but, opening the door marked with the big fuck off button that opens into a whole new encounter, while we're still not halfway done with the first is a problem too

spice veldt
#

my message was in the context of while the team is searching

#

i.e. the team is just looking around side paths with no particular threat to face

#

of course you shouldn't aggro two different areas at the same time if you think your team can't handle it

fierce sinew
#

it's usually better to aggro everything you're going to need to fight if you can I find

raw coral
#

it was randos, the other og and me were on top of each other with the vet

golden tartan
#

Not at the same time ideally

#

But yea you wanna clear

raw coral
#

pskyer decided to go full zealot

spice veldt
#

i like the trauma staff since the outer radius explosion aggroes enemies you can't see

golden tartan
fierce sinew
#

I think same time same place usually better, pick a good spot to fight and fight there

raw coral
golden tartan
#

Its very rng on elites if u wanna aggro multiple waves

fierce sinew
#

8 shotgunners to the face is completely fine and manageable

raw coral
#

i played with three baller ass psykers earlier, my og could barely land a hit before the enemy was either on fire, or their brains were painting the ceiling

fierce sinew
#

random shotgunner from behind is worse

golden tartan
#

There is no managing 8 shotgunners to the face

#

U cant dodge

raw coral
#

im just saying that one dude gave yall a bad name

golden tartan
#

U cant block

fierce sinew
#

you AB

#

is your staff broken

raw coral
#

bruh do you even can opener

golden tartan
#

Thats 8 shotgunners

#

U just drop randomly

fierce sinew
#

they don't fire even close to instantly

golden tartan
#

From across the fucking map

spice veldt
#

i've just learned to always look to the back of commsplex during the midevent

raw coral
#

can opener/blaze away is basically "fuck this entire area in front of me" right now

spice veldt
#

they're relatively unthreatening if you catch them before they're close

summer prairie
#

Looks like they improved smite smart targetting

golden tartan
golden tartan
spice veldt
#

reducing them to 4 or so is still pretty good, assuming your team is alive

#

as a psyker with KB

golden tartan
#

Thats the thing

fierce sinew
#

it doesn't matter how many if they're in front of you neatly, they never get to fire

golden tartan
fierce sinew
#

they never insta fire

golden tartan
#

They definitely do

spice veldt
#

their targeting is a little sus so I always slide before I exit the corner rounding them

fierce sinew
#

you get a sound cue and a visual cue

golden tartan
#

Thry do the cue from behind the corner as they come around

fierce sinew
#

if you aren't reacting to the pump sound/animation that's just skill issue

golden tartan
#

The issur is even if u react u go down

#

Theres no defensive reaction that saves u

fierce sinew
#

AB knocks them down and you kill them before they get up, as long as they're in front (which is the point of aggroing everything from a safe place)

spice veldt
#

slide dodging works against them until you run out of dodges

golden tartan
#

Cos they are around the corner

golden tartan
fierce sinew
#

I think you might not play the game

golden tartan
#

2 or 3 yes

#

8 no

spice veldt
#

well yeah; it's all about prevention

fierce sinew
#

shout ignores map geometry

spice veldt
#

if 8 shotgunners get close to your team, it's a bad situation anywyas

golden tartan
spice veldt
#

just like if 8 gunners catch your team from the back

golden tartan
#

So no. It does not need to be close

spice veldt
#

ehhhhhhhh

#

not from 30m

fierce sinew
#

if they're behind you you're in trouble with way less than 8

golden tartan
#

8

#

Yes

fierce sinew
#

in front it could be 20, it doesn't matter

golden tartan
#

You are getting hit by 4 even if u dodge slide

#

And 4 will down u

spice veldt
#

if you're in an entirely open space yeah

#

but i assume that people are going to have some mild form of cover nearby

#

i don't like venturing out beyond the interrogator in commsplex for that reason

golden tartan
#

Yea but you have literally a fraction of a second to react.

If u arent within dodge range of cover ur fucked

#

Which a lot of times u arent gonna br

#

And the random bullshit 8 shotgunner spawn happens in a lot of places

spice veldt
#

yeah, but it's a wipe anyways if I'm not paying attention to shooters anyways

#

if they spawn from the side doors, the siren will go off

golden tartan
#

Issue is the reaction time tbh

spice veldt
#

if they come from the back, I can seem them slow walking to downsmash us

golden tartan
#

Shooters give u a solid moment to react

#

Shotgunners do not

fierce sinew
#

yes they do lmao

spice veldt
#

eh, the issue is that they do all their damage in a single burst

#

shooters, you can take a hit and dodge the rest

golden tartan
#

Mhm.

#

The other thing also is shooters give a window whete toughness regen stuff kicks in

#

Shotgunners do not

#

U go from 100%/100% to down in like a blink

#

Unless ur zealot.

fierce sinew
#

that part is true, if you let them shoot you you're fucked

golden tartan
#

And they have this annoying thing there they will prelock and instafire when coming around corners at times

#

I think it has to do with how some corners are interpreted by AI

fierce sinew
#

I've never seen them shoot without the sound except when the sound in general is bugged, like after the one hourglass elevator

spice veldt
#

or if they catch a glimpse of you before hand, they'll be in their "ready to shoot" state I think

#

like if they can see you, you go into cover, and you come out, they'll be ready to shoot

golden tartan
idle bay
#

Managed to roll this

#

Upgraded from green 🙂

golden tartan
#

The AI just thinks they can see you when they cant

#

We know this is a definite issue cos sniper can shoot through some walls

dusky bear
#

also i swear blazing spirit does not exist or had an ungodly low chance to appear on voidstrike staves

steel egret
#

That and Surge blessing

#

Quite rare indeed

dusky bear
#

im just buying voidstrike staves from the armory and upgrading them to blue to try and roll it. hadron is building her retirement fund off of all the plasteel im spending with her

shadow wigeon
#

I've hit a bunch of blazing spirit. Doesn't seem good though.

#

Compared to transfer and flurry

summer prairie
#

maybe it was the previous patch, i'll check later

idle bay
#

1000th mission done

dusky bear
dusky bear
proven raven
# idle bay

Me, going through Discord one last time before bed: "damn, I need to play more Darktide" KEKW_ogryn

idle bay
#

I left last 2 mission to this morning, and gone to sleep at 998/1000 🙂

#

Had to change my review on steam to Positive (with a long list on Cons) - since i played this Karktide for 1000 mission and still had fun!

shadow wigeon
#

Passive quell change makes FS so much more appealing now.

ornate hamlet
#

I still hate the Force Sword

wet belfry
#

Im trying so hard to find any posts related to less players leading to less spawns.

#

im fiinding nada.

#

I wonder what the spawning rules in the game actually are

#

Where would you find the code for it.

dusky bear
#

the same always

#

even if you are solo, you have 3 bots with you

spice veldt
#

they're talking about true duos/solos

dusky bear
#

like if your the last alive?

wet belfry
#

yes

spice veldt
#

yeah, like no bots and only human players

#

so true duo = two human players and no bots

#

while a plain duo = two humans players and two bots

wet belfry
#

Spawning rules within the game seem to be badly documented.

dusky bear
#

it seems to spawn more dogs, trappers, and muties when im the last alive

spice veldt
#

probably loner spawns

#

they spawn more frequently, but in less quantity

#

i was last alive on a poxhound mod mission, and it only spawned one hound at a time for me

#

whereas when my entire team was alive, it spawned 2 at a time

wet belfry
#

I might ask kuli if he knows.

#

He usally likes to look into the actual coding of the game.

lilac tapir
#

shouldn't Tier 4 Endurance be +3 stam? Tier 3 is also 2 stam... is this another FS moment? 😄

wet belfry
idle bay
#

So after completing 1000th Penance i can play the game now...

spring barn
pine relic
olive ember
#

Aye replace the executor with deflector and that’s a rly pog FS

pine relic
#

Play with three ogryns at High-intensity, have to kill EVERY GUNNERS AND SNIPERS BY MYSELF

olive ember
#

Hope you brought a kinetic barrage build

#

Tho you could also try running ascendant blaze and press 4 on shooter hordes

pine relic
#

I did, otherwise we are not gonna make it

summer prairie
#

this is the smite smart targetting change. It then lists the enemy types it should prioritize.

spice veldt
#

3 ogryns and not a grenade gauntlet in sight huh

pine relic
#

Our coward veteran quit in the middle

olive ember
summer prairie
#

bb

olive ember
#

Oh

pine relic
#

I thought we could get at least 750 plasteel, but we only got less than 700, the veteran probably made a wise decision

olive ember
#

They changed targeting?

summer prairie
#

It sounds like it should snap to higher priority targets easier but hard to tell

idle bay
#

Blown all mats in Hadron's casion to get good curios...
And just remembered that i forgot to roll a good FS.... back to farming again then

shadow wigeon
dusky bear
idle bay
shadow wigeon
#

But there's a tier 5....

dusky bear
#

i stg if if hadron fucks that staff up for me

uneven drift
idle bay
#

I don't know if it's good or bad that perks and blessing mostly do nothing to Surge 🙂

dusky bear
#

eh

summer prairie
#

nexus is very useful

dusky bear
#

the warp nexus makes it hit like a truck

uneven drift
#

Only if target have armor.

summer prairie
#

the crits also increase stagger a lot, which is likely why it sometimes stops mutants instantly

cold geode
clear heath
summer prairie
#

No idea. It did seem like I was effectively picking out targets in distance within a horde but it could have very well been the same as it was before.

clear heath
#

Trying to see if i can tell in psykanium but i have no idea if it's doing anything

cyan notch
#

SEEMS THE SAME TO ME

#

oops caps lol

floral solstice
cyan notch
#

couple times trying to hit sniper jumping over horde and i still cant get em

shadow wigeon
cyan notch
summer prairie
#

mmmiles: it does, wasn't sure what was the cause of the time it takes to stagger them though

shadow wigeon
summer prairie
#

they can be stunned in place

shadow wigeon
#

Yes, any surge 2ndary attack will stun in place a mutie, as long as you hit it after it starts moving (roughly)

summer prairie
#

sometimes you can just spam min charge and they keep staggering despite not having charged

#

and the time it takes them to stagger while they are running varies

shadow wigeon
forest coral
floral solstice
#

hackss

summer prairie
#

not seeing any meaningful difference in smite targeting in the grinder at least

clear heath
#

ok i changed my force sword to +maniac and now i one shot hs mutants if i have warp charges

#

pretty cool

cyan notch
#

yes that is the way

#

i have + maniac and can do that too

clear heath
#

I had flak previously for some breakpoints but i think i hit those anyways since the last warp charge buff

cyan notch
#

yea light hs kills scab ragers

#

i think heavy hs also kills dreg ragers

#

with warp charges maybe

clear heath
#

heavy special just barely kill maulers as long as you don't headshot

#

with charges at least

#

and i think my concerns with the normal flak enemies don't matter much anymore now that i have slaughterer

shadow wigeon
clear heath
#

the real reason to go nexus is because the other blessings do fuck all

shadow wigeon
#

I use Nexus/Barrage, but Channeling would be helpful on hi5

#

someone is often sneaking through and poking you

cyan notch
#

crits dont do 2.5 what

shadow wigeon
#

well it depends ont he mobs yeah... 1.5-2x

#

Flak reg hits are already a crit, practically.

#

Yeah 2.5x is wrong

uneven drift
#

It can't kill basic trash in appropriate time. And useful only as CC and anti armor.

shadow wigeon
#

You can 3 shot 5 ragers

#

with 1 crit in there

#

Which happens a lot on damn

stable nacelle
#

honestly would prefer purgatus

#

💀

#

being able to just say fuck you to an entire room instead of 5 ads

#

feels better

uneven drift
#

Surge suck in killing anything that not flak/carapace. Stun handy tho, there are no argue.

stable nacelle
#

I think for solo pugs going purgatus feels more consistent over surge

#

at least for dealing with most situations

summer prairie
#

you aren't accounting for +elite and warp charge damage

uneven drift
stable nacelle
#

as if there are that many instances xd

#

purgatus gives me space in a straight line up to like 10-20 meters depending on your cloud radius

shadow wigeon
#

Your damage is off by quite a bit.

uneven drift
shadow wigeon
#

Well, I hope you have at least 3 warp charges when you're playing damn with surge.. or in general.

uneven drift
#

We can take into account mixed hordes because it's rarely few ragers wandering around by itself. And then surge suck even more.

summer prairie
#

the elites are all faster than the horde though

shadow wigeon
#

You don't use surge against hordes

uneven drift
shadow wigeon
#

The conditions are you are playing the game

summer prairie
#

true, you can lose target when the rager is stunned and horde pushes forward, but picking out non-ranged elites within a horde is trivial

#

since they come at you faster than the horde

shadow wigeon
#

Yeah you're typically zoning elites, I would say I kill more ragers than almost anything else.

#

Because of high valuable they are to remove

#

or stunlock at someone else kills them, it doesn't matter.

#

Killing 2-3 at the same time is pretty frequent.

#

When a patrol hits.

uneven drift
#

And then we can take purge or even trauma that have no limits on targets and purge just melts shit. So why bothering to take crit surge when you can kill everything much faster? Rhetorical question.

dusky bear
#

because stunlocking the bulwarks and 3 crushers rushing you can be the difference between a game over and a victory

summer prairie
#

Depends on your party composition but surge is also better for clutching

sharp obsidian
#

Did they just nerf purgatus and said nothing about it in the notes or did I just miss it? We can't spam short-charged bursts any more.

shadow wigeon
#

Surge also lets you kill indirectly, catch shooters that are mostly behind cover, without exposing yourself.

dusky bear
#

can transfer peril be on surg?

shadow wigeon
#

Barrage, Nexus, Channeling - then run and gun, and flurry (which does not do anything).

ornate hamlet
#

@spring barn Don't like the attack pattern at all. The weapon clashes with my aggressive playstyle. I'm also generally not a fan of Deflector; playing defensively with the Deflector FS got me killed a lot more than when I ran into Combat with my Dueling Sword or Combat Axe

dusky bear
#

oh and best argument for the surge

#

you can stunlock muties

summer prairie
#

or a group of multiple mutants+hounds on damn hi

cyan notch
#

damn bye

clear heath
#

hmm, considering it

#

maybe i'll just do 10

floral solstice
forest coral
summer prairie
#

Damnation can now have up to 64 material pickups in total, a bit overboard

clear heath
#

What's the most plasteel anyone has gotten?

#

from a single run

floral solstice
#

700 ish so far

floral solstice
#

i have one more

cyan notch
clear heath
#

wow

#

I think most i've seen was 770

floral solstice
#

you gotta love random vets sometimes

cyan notch
#

guy went up to burster and said

dusky bear
#

question

#

surge staff has critical bonus and in the inspect critical bonus has "primary action melee critical chance" and "secondary action melee critical chance" is that just a typo or does that really only effect smacking stuff with my staff?

summer prairie
#

it affects ranged

dusky bear
#

so 24% base crit chance. im slapping a level 3 warp nexus on this asap

forest coral
#

can never blame him for that

#

damnation btw

jovial mural
#

love using surge cuz I can just stun almost everything and lightning coming out of my fingers is dope

whole wharf
#

It is quite fun to cosplay emperor palpatine.

jovial mural
#

I imagine myself more of the psykers using so much power that wind from their attacks is blowing into their faces that they put in the art for warhammer but that is fun as well

whole wharf
#

I would really love to see a void staff that's based solely on single target damage, like the voidstrike but with more stopping power. Much like seinna's fire spear staff from VT2.

#

Granted brain burst kinda does that as is, but would be pretty cool to see.

jovial mural
#

made a loadout surrounding brain burst recently so I'm eager to try that out tomorrow

whole wharf
#

It's really fun, especially with the buff it got recently.

#

Feels much easier to take down big enemies on heresy or higher, and most specials that initially took 2-3, now only need 1.

strange wigeon
#

since I got almost no force swords for a long time so I just had deflector I'm kind of lost on most of the blessings, what's better the soulbalze on crit or quell on weakspot, I'm guessing quell?

#

Only force sword I have with ok stats, upgraded a random forcesword and got slaughterer 4 so that's what I'm planning to put on the second blessing

cyan notch
#

yea quell

#

both are pretty mid tho

strange wigeon
#

I know just by reading them that they're meh but don't have other ok swords stat wise I'm afraid

strange wigeon
#

boggles my mind that I'm nearing 400 hours and I still didn't get to try out most blessings

#

what's the best blessing to pair with slaughterer then?

forest coral
#

either unstable power or deflector i think

floral solstice
strange wigeon
# forest coral either unstable power or deflector i think

I have this one also, I'll try it out, put slaught on shred and reroll the elite damage probably. Any good breakpoints to hit, what other perk should I be aiming for alongside flak? Never rerolled before because the crafting system made me sad so I just used what the emp,melk or shop gave me

forest coral
#

Maniac afaik

#

Err dont worry about ur breakpoints, youve def hit them i think xD

strange wigeon
#

nice, thanks

solar cloak
#

any tips on what maps are good for getting going out with a bang?

twilit flicker
#

I got mine on accident in the train tunnel, whichever that one is. I think its the one which you steal the ammunition. Consignment yard?

#

Though I guess if youre trying, any map will do if you have team mates who will co-operate.

crystal jolt
solar cloak
#

sweet, thx last achievement I need to 100% steam

split elm
#

Are the psyker achievements made easier to do now?

#

Or still the same as on launch?

vagrant furnace
#

They are still whack

remote gale
#

what would be a good second blessing to put on this you think?

tropic lagoon
#

warp flurry probs

sly matrix
#

Quick, help me decide. Left one better than right one?

twilit flicker
tropic lagoon
#

so does wrack and ruin emit soulblaze every time you brain burst a big enemy?

split elm
tropic lagoon
#

and damage buff is 3>4%

twilit flicker
tropic lagoon
#

also brain burst is 10% stronger at base

twilit flicker
split elm
#

Coolio. Any changes on melee weapons and staves?

clear heath
#

trauma staff costs less peril now

#

all non-force weapons got their passive quell nerfed

sly matrix
#

just bought this dude on the shop. I have a question: if I change the perk now, does that mean that, if I upgrade to purple and I dont like the new perk, I cannot change it?

sacred dome
#

Trauma is a bit hard to use compared to the others.

sly matrix
# cyan notch yes

Is ranged critical strike chance worth changing or should I wait for the purple upgrade? What about the blessing?

tropic lagoon
#

I pulled warp nexus off a surge staff but i can't put it on my purgatus?

uneven drift
cyan notch
sly matrix
#

Alright

#

So you guys recommend me upgrading this one to purple?

tropic lagoon
#

ye

#

good staff

sly matrix
#

aight

#

thanks

cyan notch
#

nah

#

just go for orange

#

youre not gaining much just going to purple

tropic lagoon
#

I think that expectation was implicit

#

but in order to get to orange you usually have to go through purple

sly matrix
#

sprint eficiency... this is the time to change, right?

tropic lagoon
#

doesn't matter

sly matrix
#

I never sprint with the staff

tropic lagoon
#

you can upgrade it to orange and change later if you want

sly matrix
#

Always take the dueling sword out

#

ah ok

tropic lagoon
#

upgrading doesn't lock anything, but once you change a perk or blessing once, the other perk/blessing is locked forever

#

IE

sly matrix
#

oh shit

tropic lagoon
#

you won the lottery

coarse dagger
#

What would you guys say are the top 2 blessings for a purgatus staff?

tropic lagoon
#

just roll that sprint efficiency to something else

sly matrix
#

we did it reddit

tropic lagoon
#

warp flurry/nexus

#

always warp flurry/nexus

sly matrix
cyan notch
#

flurry doesnt work on surge atm

floral solstice
#

flurry doesnt work on surge rn

sly matrix
#

Well

tropic lagoon
#

i'd keep it though

sly matrix
#

Whenever they fix it

#

I have it

floral solstice
#

when they fix it then you can rebless again

tropic lagoon
#

I just need warp nexus in general 😦

#

I have an 80% burn purgatus

#

but no warp nexus

sly matrix
#

I should go for maniac/flak for the other perk, right¿?

tropic lagoon
#

eh, up to you really

sly matrix
#

I got unarmored

floral solstice
#

i prefer flak yeah

sly matrix
#

ok

tropic lagoon
#

it gets cheaper each time you reroll until it costs nothing

#

so you can always play with it

sly matrix
#

I got maniac

#

Sorry its my first upgrade Im excited

tropic lagoon
#

the real utility of surge is stunning things anyways

coarse dagger
#

I got carapace and unyielding extra damage on purge

#

Not sure if worth it yet

floral solstice
#

replace carapace with crit chance

coarse dagger
#

pogryn okay

sly matrix
coarse dagger
#

I still have no real good blessings for it either. I feel like the top tier blessings are a myth

clear heath
#

hmm, did they fix flurry for surge?

#

i swear i saw it work in game
gonna test in psykanium

floral solstice
sly anvil
#

Someone show me a god roll stave

sly matrix
#

my baby now

sly anvil
clear heath
#

bad game

floral solstice
#

but yeah i still dont go maniac on surge

#

not like you're bursting muties with surge

#

flamers you can just stun once then staff blast on the head

#

or melee

clear heath
clear heath
sly matrix
clear heath
#

if you have the patience for it yeah

#

This is what i have

#

crit damage bad but it's the best option i had

sly matrix
#

aight

#

here we go

frank talon
#

Flurry fixed? I didn't see mention of it

clear heath
#

Doesn't seem like it

frank talon
#

One day. My surge is also rocking flurry and nexus

#

I didn't get the chance to pull out my surge last night

clear heath
#

congrats

forest coral
summer prairie
#

eh, 53165 total damnation hi with 2 grims and +30% from curio

#

though shouldn't the top already add all that up

cyan notch
#

yea thats weird

#

i thought the dockets part was always 22k

floral solstice
#

welp highest plasteel ive seen so far is 795

#

on magistrati

idle bay
#

Whelp.... no players found for simple chill heresy mission

pine relic
#

Deflector is for the weak, full aggro is the way

long wharf
#

last night, I didn't have a problem doing quick play

neat sand
#

i burned 220k dockets to get there but i have to say i like this staff XD

#

the first T3 with it and i unlocked untouchable a good sign

azure goblet
#

should i replace focused channeling with warp flurry or wait for a T4 Warp Nexus to replace the T3?

frank talon
#

I like focused on purg

long wharf
#

I'd leave it alone

#

down the road, we may get new blessings

#

it'd be a shame to not be able to adjust that accordingly then

zinc phoenix
neat sand
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it nice to have a use for dockets again lol XD

idle bay
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Damnit!!! Just got another hard penance by Accident!
Pick and Mix

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I was just spamming BB and it poped up

whole wharf
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Wonder when this clipping will finally be fixed. 🙂

tacit jungle
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but now I'm unsure where to go with this next

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any pro tips? I've been out of the loop for a few months((

long wharf
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scrap it and start over

tacit jungle
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ye fair enough

long wharf
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both of those blessings are trash

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very nice staff ruined by Hadron, yet again

tacit jungle
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I figured as much. I'll just keep using it for now, it'll do me fine in haz 3 and 4

long wharf
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I swear I can hear her cackling as she upgrades our gear

worthy wedge
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I'd probably keep it but yeah those aren't great blessings

long wharf
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if you have a Transfer Peril unlocked, slap it on there

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doesn't matter which blessing you overwrite

sick cove
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whats the best perks for surge staff?

tacit jungle
long wharf
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to help with heresy+, reroll one perk to the horde one (poxwalkers and infected)

fair kayak
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is it between 0-4% power depending on peril?

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what is power?

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what is the difference between power level and power

leaden thunder
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damage + cleave + stagger

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power affects all of thos

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power level is mostly irrelevant

fair kayak
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okay but why

leaden thunder
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power level is just the stats added together

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it's confusing terminology

fair kayak
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no shit

leaden thunder
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+power % is completely different

fair kayak
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So Executor says 12.5% power level stacking up to 5 times

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so thats roughly 60% powerlevel if you stack it fully, WTF does that even equate to

leaden thunder
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idk why executor is worded like that

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I am pretty sure it's just power

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fatshark man

fair kayak
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okay.....

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so then

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Executor is 12-60% power

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and Unstable is 4%?

spice veldt
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I think you're confusing slaughterer and executor

leaden thunder
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sluaghterer is broken as fuck, compared to like 75% of other blessings

spice veldt
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from what others have been saying, Unstable Power gives you 4% power at 30% peril, 50%, and 97%

fair kayak
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What im really asking is, whats the difference between power and power level

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and what does power actually do

spice veldt
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the weird thing is that it gives you 4% power twice at 97%

leaden thunder
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I think executor is just poorly worded

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but in other cases power level is your stat total

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but afaik executor should just be +% power

fair kayak
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if executor is just power

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then its like 5 times as good as the others

leaden thunder
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you mean sluaghterer

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and yes

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it is

spice veldt
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it is an extremely busted blessing

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only outdone by the likes of heavy Sword's headtaker

fair kayak
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no

idle bay
fair kayak
leaden thunder
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it says 4%

spice veldt
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12.5%? dafuq. did they buff it?

fair kayak
spice veldt
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pretty sure it was still 4% as a t3 9! FS

fair kayak
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I was readin wrong one

long wharf
fair kayak
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nvm crisis averted

long wharf
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makes it one of the best blessings for surge now

fair kayak
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FLurry/Nexus Surge

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is the way

long wharf
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until we get Blazing Spirit on surge

idle bay
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Though it feels like it works.. but with some inconsistencies.

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I have T4 version

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It will be fun if by mistake we will get it on Surge 🙂

summer prairie
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it does not look like it's working

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surge does that kind of jump without flurry

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-40, -50% would be very obvious

idle bay
summer prairie
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No idea why it doesn't start from 0 charge

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maybe it starts charging during the animation

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but even the first seems to do it

cyan notch
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pretty sure its not working either

soft cliff
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Is Warp Flurry confirmed to be broken for the Purgatus staff?

broken quail
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Brunts armory sucks, 400k and only a few items over 350. Once the coins we've saved up are burn it won't be worth anything

cyan notch
uneven drift
# soft cliff Is Warp Flurry confirmed to be broken for the Purgatus staff?
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Iirc it still works on trauma. But haven't checked by myself.

summer prairie
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you can get some benefit on trauma but not full