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#psyker-class
lilac tapir
leaden thunder
iirc no it doesn't do anything else
it's like run and gun
t4 run and gun so you can sprint and shooter more
now you can be uninterrupted better
lilac tapir
is it your understanding too that if I surrender this to Hadron next patch I will get both Shred and Riposte at what I believe is T3 level to my "collection/library" of blessings?
ornate hamlet
is it your understanding too that if I surrender this to Hadron next patch I wil...
shred is actually pretty good, riposte sucks
lilac tapir
aight, thx. although not being able to surrender and get both sounds like a poor design from FS aimed at artificially prolonging the grind...
leaden thunder
100%
ornate hamlet
aight, thx. although not being able to surrender and get both sounds like a poor...
yeah don't even get us started on how bad the game design for "endgame loop" is
lilac tapir
so I hope they change it when they get more negative reviews on steam heh
ornate hamlet
or how stupid it is to make a game focused on teamwork and sticking together but designing levels so that players have to run all over looking for specific items like ammo, health/ammo placeables, books, etc
or creating a whole bunch of ridiculous achievements with unlockable cosmetics
get into group and see other players doing something really stupid and they say "trying to get achiev" and you understand why they're doing something so stupid now lol
west fjord
Worth buying off Melk? Blessings seem ok, shame about the warp res...
leaden thunder
i'd get it
if you don't have one better 100%
it's got the burn and cloud you want
and warp nexus is really good
ornate hamlet
or how incredibly stupid the endgame gear grind is, literally just checking store with an app on your phone
not even encouraged to actually login and play the game because the game doesn't even reward you for playing
sure, you need to grind for some mats, and you get a limited amount of useless emperor drops, but endgame grind in this game is really just checking vendor for the 0.0001% chance you'll actually see a good item to buy
west fjord
if you don't have one better 100%
Only other one I have is this, RIP quell speed
leaden thunder
yeah i'd get that one from melk
slow karma
It's perfectly ok to just not play for a while
ornate hamlet
Worth buying off Melk? Blessings seem ok, shame about the warp res...
it's still good, purg doesn't cause that much peril
lilac tapir
it's still good, purg doesn't cause that much peril
yea I also have low quell roll on mine but when running Inner Tranquility and Warp Battery I barely have to worry about peril during normal gameplay
forest coral
Quell speed isn’t too bad, could always pull out a non force weapon to do fast passive quell or use a fs with decent quell in its place 
That’s an extremely good staff tho
leaden thunder
tbh, if you are killing enough the first one you probably won't even feel the lower warp resist
ornate hamlet
warp resist isn't very important honestly
not with purg
run n gun sucks, but it is what it is
fatshark needs to update the game
leaden thunder
if psyker didn't have the % chance to reduce peril by 10% on kill then warp reisitance would be way more important for purge
but since it does
slow karma
They'll get there.
I'd rather they take their time. Not like us bitching speeds them up
slow karma
but since it does
Well that's just psykinetic. The other subclasses likely wont have that so it's currently in a vacuum situation.
slow karma
I don't really care about the player count.
ornate hamlet
taking forever isn't doing them any favors in sales tho
ornate hamlet
most people still mostly just run with random players, there's a point where pop gets so low it almost completely kills the game
and we're almost at that point
slow karma
Then it dies. Rest in Piece.
There's not changing that by complaining about it, it just makes the air foul while we wait
They know what's up, the ball's in their court at this point.
ornate hamlet
run n gun sucks, but it is what it is
I kind of love Run n Gun on my Purge Staff. I use it to rush into mobs and soften them up for my Axe
ornate hamlet
I kind of love Run n Gun on my Purge Staff. I use it to rush into mobs and softe...
you can do this without run n gun anyway
there's a very tiny difference in movespeed while closing gap to melee
Maybe so but it feels more faster.
only very slightly
Fasterer? Am I saying this right?
when i can replace the blessing, i will
leaden thunder
schmovin
lucid horizon
😐
ionic urchin
so you pretty much just check the shop every hour for new stuff?
vestal wraith
ngl the penance where you need to kill a monstrosity with only brain burst is the worst thing in existance
pine relic
Stuck in the loading screen for five minutes
cold geode
Alt-f4
near gale
ngl the penance where you need to kill a monstrosity with only brain burst is th...
Without the level 30 feat for making brain burst charge faster and generate less peril... it would be horrible. With it? Terrible, but, not as abysmal as without it.
candid crest
worth the milk cookies?
near gale
Not really
warp resistance and quell speed are the most important stats, iirc, on the surge staff
I've seen worse, tho
ornate hamlet
what do we think of this?
not perfect, but its been my trusty staff for a long time
safe crystal
Burn is the most important stat, along with cloud radius, for purgatus. Damage is the dump stat, since your damage comes from soul blaze stacks (burn)
forest coral
worth the milk cookies?
I’d still get that if you don’t have a staff around that level tho, 62% is very functional already
forest coral
If you play ascendant blaze builds, the radius isn’t really a huge issue
ornate hamlet
i just like it
it allows me to stun everything with a blast of fire so i can swap to sword and mow through
grizzled jasper
game crashed and it doesn't even give me the option to reconnect 
ornate hamlet
rip
ornate hamlet
No lol
candid crest
my other surge
forest coral
Oh blood, quick question for u
ornate hamlet
sorry yeah let me rephrase. ieven though the burn is better on exalted force, i prefer the cloud radius on my transcendant force
forest coral
Against monstrosities with the fs
Is it better just to do light on head or do u snipe with heavy chop
forest coral
my other surge
Technically more useful as a stun stick 
cyan notch
sorry yeah let me rephrase. ieven though the burn is better on exalted force, i ...
yea cloud is much better imo
forest coral
If u get flak damage bonus perk it will very reliably kill flak shot gunners too 
cyan notch
sure u lose like 1-2 stacks of burn but it doesnt really matter much outside of a little monster dps
ornate hamlet
its awfully low in stats for a transcendent staff, but man do i feel like a bad ass with it regardless
i mainly use it as crown control and stunning runners
if i want dps, spamming force sword special is better
forest coral
if i want dps, spamming force sword special is better
Only if monstrosity aggro is not on u
ornate hamlet
true that lol
forest coral
Otherwise you’re better off doing rat ogre dance with plague ogryn or just kiting with nurgle
ornate hamlet
but if those stacks get to stack on them with burn, it does wild damage
forest coral
Ye
ornate hamlet
wish it had the range of zealots flame thrower
forest coral
Lovely thing about surge staff is it’s probably least stat reliant to perform well for its function
ornate hamlet
point click zap
forest coral
I love making heavy armor/ elite rushes irrelevant
ornate hamlet
staff stuns are so good
they are so quick to swap and fire it becomes a combo rotation so easily
ornate hamlet
https://streamable.com/2e109d
nice
can we get a show and tell of everyones character build?
forest coral
Well this is an old screenshot
But I currently run MKV with maniac and unarmoured damage
sterile lake
got any new.... got any new... got any new STAVES
sterile lake
force sword is written wrong though
echo turtle
Got this on my psyker 🥹
solid
imo uncannny strike is whhat you wannt, and penetration is the dump stat
block push strikes reset haymaker =/
forest coral
Duelling sword me beloved
echo turtle
In response to the build show and tell
This is what I was just running and clearing Hi-T5
I do the same feats with a gun or surge staff, but for Hi I will take the purge for hordeclear as there tends to be a lot of stuff
olive ember
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Top to Bottom: Purge, Voidstrike, Surge
What I ran back when I played in December
Some changes could prob be made with recent changes to psyker warp charges but I was beating heresy and damnation fine w/ the builds above so yea
digital loom
this is what i use for trauma with force sword
imo unarmored is more important for trauma than infested because the only thing i cant one shot at 4 stacks is the scab melee guys.
with purg i started using kinetic overload
since i am always making stacks i can't take advantage of
so why not find a way to make them useful
spice veldt
here's my trauma + FS build
spice veldt
nnnnnnnnno
too lazy to set it up
i have about 1 million firefox tabs on and I don't want to slow my computer down by having darktide in the background
pine relic
sprint efficiency?
spice veldt
yeah; I try to use my melee as much as possible
pine relic
Why not toughness regenation
spice veldt
and this entails running around
cuz I don't stick with my team very often
and I have quietude anyways
pine relic
Does sprint efficiency makes you run faster?
spice veldt
nah; just cuts down on the sprint cost
usually, sprint costs 1 bar per second on most melee like the Force Sword
I don't run kinetic deflection, so having nonzero stamina is pretty necessary
pine relic
and I have quietude anyways
They serve different functions.
Tough regen gives you regeneration during combat, it won't interrupt your actions.
spice veldt
ye; my point was along the lines that my toughness regen is usually fine behind cover or with my team anyways
fierce sinew
Does sprint efficiency makes you run faster?
your sprint speed with stamina is faster than your sprint speed without stamina
spice veldt
unlike essence harvest/warp absorption which are conditional on warp charges/kills
pine relic
It's not marathon, if you can't outrun a poxwalker it would be useless.
spice veldt
I think I just barely outrun it with an 80% mobil FS
and you also get more mileage per stamina bar, so you need to wait a little less to run away
fierce sinew
more movement speed is always better
pine relic
Today I dodged two snipers with duelling sword.
spice veldt
running from a horde or reuniting with your team after things go ham
pine relic
I don't think I could ever pull that off with FS
spice veldt
and having the stamina to push enemies while doing so
fierce sinew
it's not like you give up anything for it on curios either
spice veldt
eh, you could since you can just spam dodge without any caare
with FS, I only need to care about peril and stamina; I don't have to worry about my dodge count. Not a big deal, but it's something I personally like
spice veldt
spam slide
pine relic
There were also horde chasing me.
spice veldt
if enemies are near, spam slide and spam push
cyan notch
you can dodge snipers with fs pretty easily
spice veldt
if enemies are all around you, then duelling sword would easily beat the FS, but if there's a clear path of some sort to safety, then I'd say the FS is still fine
i brought out that +3 stamina curio for more running capacity and pushes
even though it has an ugly +15% curio
pine relic
if you are using FS you would catch by the horde, then you will get surrounded, and one of the snipers will hit you.
spice veldt
i could also just sprint/dodge-slide and push
i don't think it's a problem since you can push while sliding
and I can spam dodge to fight the horde while the sniper is shooting without having to worry about my dodge count
that's something I've done in recent memory
lethal folio
Dueling sword eventually needs a dodge reset.
spice veldt
tbf, dodge reset is fairly quick; just need to be careful not to accidentally dodge too early
spice veldt
but i like having that mental burden off my mind
pine relic
There were a horde, two snipers and a bomber, I need to pass through them, all my teammates were dead
I don't think you guys fully understand the situation I was in
spice veldt
well yeah; it's not like I saw it
you also didn't talk about whether you were cornered or what map or what segment
slow karma
I've been in untenable situations like that before
It's not common really but the spawns can just be a dick sometimes
echo turtle
Today I dodged two snipers with duelling sword.
Everyone gets hard dicks for “infinite dodges” but the other weapons dodge further and faster
pine relic
Excise vault, I was in the last part of map before you entered the safe place
spice veldt
ah that fucking part
fucking spawns from the left and top
hidden in some area that you can't see
pine relic
By safe place I mean the one has healing station in it
pine relic
yes
spice veldt
before the airlock
i've survived a situation with a bunch of gunners and shotgunners by sprinting to the healing station with a force sword, though that was with kinetic deflection pre-nerf
not as many groaners/poxwalkers in my situation; just shooters, so I had the space to run
i hate that place since there are elite patrols somewhere you can't see
I can't tell if it's the corners or the top walkways or that weird area to the left that enemies can clip through
since I haven't gotten a sketchy situation in that area since more than a month ago
pine relic
Everyone gets hard dicks for “infinite dodges” but the other weapons dodge furth...
Distance and speed are really matters of death and life in a small space.
pine relic
i hate that place since there are elite patrols somewhere you can't see
I die in the end by the way, I was trying to rush to my teammates and save them, but two shooters broke my toughness in a second.
pine relic
I did
spice veldt
when I got to the healing station area, I healed and ran to the corners where there's a small alleyway to funnel enemies
pine relic
I lost my patience because that map has infinite spawn and we played like 50 minutes already
spice veldt
ah, it was bugged
pine relic
I could do that better, slowly clear the horde then go save them, but I'm tired.
pine relic
tulip drum
found a decent trauma staff..gonna give it a try...looking for advice on perk reroll
should i go for crit and when patch hits reroll transfer peril to surge?
spice veldt
crit's not very good, and I think the trauma has pretty milquetoast crit dmg
I'd go for +unarmoured to one-shot dreg enemies
tulip drum
surge allows it to hit twice though? or rending shockwave wouldbe a better 2nd blessing?
spice veldt
depends on what difficulty you play; not sure about the thresholds for a 77% trauma staff as well
Surge only works on the LMB unfortunately
not the secondary
tulip drum
oh nooo lol...thanks for the heads up
tulip drum
T4 mostly T5 occasionally...i dont have any experience on trauma staff tho
spice veldt
you'd think it'd be good given how rare it is
trauma staff is pretty good for killing shooters
people use it for hordeclear, but I prefer using melee for that since it tends to throw enemies around
cyan notch
should i go for crit and when patch hits reroll transfer peril to surge?
consider rerolling sprint to infested to 1 shot poxwalkers if youre not using psykinetic's wrath
spice veldt
even without psykinetic's wrath, I wouldn't say infested is too good since the outer radius damage is enough to kill them after they get hit in the epicentre
tulip drum
do poxwalkers also count as unarmored?
devout axle
Poxwalkers are Infested, Groaners are Unarmored.
tulip drum
ahh thanks
i'll try unarmored so i can deal with dreg dudes nice and easy
was looking at the blessing list for trauma...guess rending shockwave would be the best then?
spice veldt
probably yeah
trauma is also one of the staffs that Warp Flurry works on
i'd probably pick rending shockwave for dealing with crushers
tulip drum
Also Terrifying Barrage
ahh yeah very true CC always nice
ok thanks for the input everyone, I appreciate it
cyan notch
sucks on surge
idle bay
Melk finaly got me a rare t4 perk
cyan notch
impressive, very nice
spice veldt
i hopped into the vet chat to figure out why you posted this here
and I understand completely
idle bay
I mean:
- How much Cleave do you want?
- YES!
idle bay
i hopped into the vet chat to figure out why you posted this here
They don't talk Darktide there at all - it's a banned theme there 🙂
north cradle
Karkposting in there
spice veldt
at least psyker chat has enough space to accomodate the discussion of other classes
half iron
we are just all containers of the silliness
floral solstice
half iron
Always edging between good ideas and unhinged discussions
like our perils of the warp
forest coral
Yesh
rocky cedar
Melk finaly got me a rare t4 perk
Lol why does it even have that when it already has slaughterer and brutal momentum?
What a dogshit T4 blessing
bleak tusk
so glad this is in melks shop for my psyker
rocky cedar
and I understand completely
Vet chat plays such a brain dead easy class they never feel the need to actually discuss the game 
zealous hinge
does kinetic flayer give warp charges?
spice veldt
i can't believe the power sword of all weapons gets Slaughterer
spice veldt
does kinetic flayer give warp charges?
ye
zealous hinge
sick
rocky cedar
If it kills obviously
spice veldt
that's the main use of kinetic flayer--to upkeep your warp charges without needing to BB
zealous hinge
purgatus staff about to be mad powerful
forest coral
It’s powerful without flayer. Try it with ascendant blaze and warp battery
rocky cedar
i can't believe the power sword of all weapons gets Slaughterer
Vets complain about how hard it is to get power cycler without realising that a decent slaughterer blessing means you barely need to turn the damn thing on in the first place
rocky cedar
It’s powerful without flayer. Try it with ascendant blaze and warp battery
Yeah this is a much better build
Oh if you're not 30 yet then yeah fair call
KF will serve you well enough till you have AB
spice veldt
flayer is pretty fine for upkeeping your warp charges unless you want to swap to an AB build
I personally don't run ascendant blaze with purg most of the time
zealous hinge
when I hit 30 i'll probably do warp battery and quicken
spice veldt
oh no
forest coral
Ascendant blaze with 6 stacks will straight up demolish entire poxwalker horde in one button
In damnation too
spice veldt
fyi, Quicken is not regarded to be good unless you're only using your staff/melee
zealous hinge
idk
bleak tusk
anyone else like kinetic barrage just so your stacks are always maxed and you quickly wreck everything with BB
zealous hinge
I'm just going to test what works
spice veldt
whatever works with your playstyle
quicken would probably work for my playstyle but I like kinetic barrage too much
zealous hinge
I came from ogryn so brain no work sometimes
forest coral
I recommend learning how to use the force sword and duelling swords too. They usually cover shortcomings of your choice of staff
spice veldt
knowing how to attack -> push -> attack -> push is probably good enough
half iron
force sword helps with the range i lack with my blue fire staff
spice veldt
as long as you have that basic stuff down, you're probably fine with any melee
zealous hinge
I use the force sword for big elite melee damage
echo turtle
anyone else like kinetic barrage just so your stacks are always maxed and you qu...
I run kinetic barrage all the time
echo turtle
when I hit 30 i'll probably do warp battery and quicken
Quicken is trash.
Kinetic barrage or AB are the only decent choices
Psykinetic aura gives all the CDR you should ever need
echo turtle
I'm just going to test what works
I run this in Hi-T5 regardless of the weapons It take. Purgatus, surge, gun. Whatever
Its simple and versatile, you don’t need to worry about charges and just focus on killing.
pine relic
cloud sequoia
i spent 2 weeks trying to find decent staff its all guns on the shop
forest coral
Melk laughs as he hands the psyker the shiniest guns
idle bay
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> i spent 2 weeks trying to find decent staff it...
I forgot when i last seen staff with 360+ stats and i'm checking shop via browser extension regularly
bleak tusk
staffs come above 350? lol i check alot too. all guns and shit melee
cloud sequoia
I forgot when i last seen staff with 360+ stats and i'm checking shop via browse...
my first and the only one 380 staff date taken 17-1-2023
digital loom
i use an achlys too, its great for cleanup
it one shots groaners pox walkers scabs dregs
it two shots dogs, kills mutants pretty quickly, can kill crushers pretty quickly
very versatile and reliable
rose lily
sincere question, trying to get a feel for people's reasons:
why do psykers use guns instead of staffs?
zealous hinge
Is this axe any good?
forest coral
well, its not amazing
idle bay
Conflicting Blessings
rocky cedar
I don't think block resets shred
So not technically conflicting
It's just that one of them is bad
I would personally not use that axe but leave it in my inventory to mine for blessings later
rocky cedar
sincere question, trying to get a feel for people's reasons:
why do psykers use ...
Don't meet that many that do
Those that do probably mostly for variety
My mate runs laspistol Psyker a fair bit and I think they like having a quick auto venting weapon to pair with force sword and they've also mentioned using the unique laspistol push to generate peril for quietude toughness regen in a pinch
I think some people pretend it's better than it is but also others act like gun Psyker is unviable which is just nonsense
cloud sequoia
sincere question, trying to get a feel for people's reasons:
why do psykers use ...
Depends on what gun tbh
fierce sinew
I don't think block resets shred
it doesn't reset, but it won't increment either
rose lily
I think some people pretend it's better than it is but also others act like gun ...
what is this unique laspistol push?
rocky cedar
what is this unique laspistol push?
Psyker specifically does a force push with the weapon special button on laspistol
Fairly strong knockback and generates peril
forest coral
I'm very tempted to try HH Psyker
its decent, not great
the most annoying part of gunpsyker for me is upkeeping warp stacks in a meaningful way
muted silo
Anyone know how to macro the void strike animation cancel correctly? Getting OK results already but not better than doing it by hand
rocky cedar
Macros are for cowards
muted silo
or lazy people who don’t want rsi
rocky cedar
TBH if it requires a macro to avoid RSI it's probably abusing an unintended mechanic in the first place
Anyway I'm being a bit tongue in cheek
I do think that sort of stuff is a bit dirty though
muted silo
Ever used the catachan knife against a horde? You want autoclick
But also voidstrike go brrrt is fun
rocky cedar
I have used the knife yeah autoclicker is understandable there
forest coral
Knife hurt finger
marsh ermine
There's an easy solution to the knife conundrum
rocky cedar
I just think if you're gonna abuse stuff for much higher shooting speed you should pay for that with the mental load of doing the tech manually
Otherwise it really is just cheating, not tech anymore
forest coral
For void it be like, charge, shoot, R to ani cancel, Charge shoot
marsh ermine
Yeah
forest coral
hue
marsh ermine
Lol
marsh ermine
50% of the zealot population
forest coral
knife on psyker isnt that good sadly
marsh ermine
Wouldn't have
muted silo
I just like to zoom around with it mostly
rocky cedar
I'm disappointed when I play other classes and see knife Zealots in QP
forest coral
duelling sword will let you do the same if you know how to slide spam
rocky cedar
Knife Psyker and Vet respectable though
forest coral
psyker's stamina regen is kind ainsane
rocky cedar
DS MK V has absolutely cracked mobility
marsh ermine
It's pretty good, second only to zealot I think
forest coral
also fs infinite dodge spam is something to be considered too
ive done a weird clutch by side dodging a loop around map to rescue people
rocky cedar
People are like "hurr durr FS has shit dodges so infinite dodge count doesn't matter"
fierce sinew
It's pretty good, second only to zealot I think
second to none, psyker stam regen delay is the shortest
rocky cedar
Like lol dodge slides don't give a single shit about your apparent low dodge range
muted silo
FS dodge spam is hilarious can speedrun missions in reverse
forest coral
and the thing is ur mostly protected since you just hold down block
rocky cedar
second to none, psyker stam regen delay is the shortest
Meanwhile Zealot has higher stam regen rate
forest coral
and do funny dodge
marsh ermine
second to none, psyker stam regen delay is the shortest
Yeah but zealot has 50% more Regen inherent
fierce sinew
psyker .5, zealot .75, ogryn 1, vet 1.25
forest coral
DS MK V has absolutely cracked mobility
DS MKV is extremely cracked in general
marsh ermine
psyker .5, zealot .75, ogryn 1, vet 1.25
Ive look at the code too
rocky cedar
Yeah @fierce sinew I'm not sure you're reading what they're saying. Delay is one thing but there's also the actual regen rate to consider
spice veldt
delay just makes you really good at low stamina
second best class for carrying heavy objects
rocky cedar
Yeah agreed on that
forest coral
heretics watching the noodly armed psyker slide across entire map with barrel
spice veldt
heretics watching as they get stumbled back from psyker's noodle arms
on the topic of melee affecting soulblaze ticks; turns out that uncanny strike (rending% self buff on weakspot hit) affects soulblaze on crushers
forest coral
wait how so
spice veldt
get some Soulblaze stacks on crusher, swap to a melee with uncanny strike, then smack some weak spots a few times
you'll see the Soulblaze ticks on the crusher go up
so I guess Soulblaze just has a reduced modifier against carapce
presumably brittleness would work the same
trauma rending shockwave + Purg combo
forest coral
Well thats good to know i guess
spice veldt
makes sense since it works like the zealot ult
forest coral
flame crusher, then hit it a few times for stronger tick
spice veldt
or any enemy
uncanny strike is a self buff
so you could flame a crushers smack the heads of goraners/poxwalkers
forest coral
thats so weird lol
description says enemy weak spot hit which i assumed had to be what ur hitting
spice veldt
if they don't fix this by the next update, I'm gonna run Purg + uncanny strike FS
forest coral
so doesnt have to Specifically be that target
spice veldt
yeah
forest coral
oh thats good
spice veldt
rending% with the percentage sign is a self buff
+rending with the plus sign is an enemy debuff AKA brittleness%
forest coral
I was kinda madge because hadron rolled my best FS to end up with blazing spirit and uncanny strike
spice veldt
uncanny strike seems pretty goated in general
makes the 3rd light deal as much dmg as heavies against carapce
forest coral
i did notice i was killing alot of elites by accident with the light attacks after getting it
spice veldt
it's not "repeated" or "chained" so it last even after weapon swapping or blocking, though it lasts for only like 2.5s or something
it also seems to increase the stagger power of your strikes for some reason
forest coral
waait really?
forest coral
that means heavy attack fs spam is actually good for horde control on top of your funny clench and pushes
spice veldt
also seems to increase stagger against all enemies in general, even if the weapon didn't deal reduced damage to that enemy type in the first place
spice veldt
I'ma swap out my deflector for uncanny strike later
forest coral
Deflector feels really good to give out tho
spice veldt
tru
forest coral
at least id like it lol
fierce sinew
if you're running fs and purg slaughterer is still probably better
spice veldt
well I'll just slap uncanny strike on another FS that has deflector instead of slaughterer since it would eliminate the need for melee
forest coral
yeh, slaughterer power increase
spice veldt
oh right
fierce sinew
power increase from slaughterer, limbsplitter etc braindead easy soulblaze damage
spice veldt
uncanny strike really only improves your dmg against crushers, whereas slaughterer is more general. hmmmm
I still wanna feel like a zealot killing crushers with the purg
they don't get to keep the good shit to themselves
oh wait I guess you could also just run uncanny strike + slaughterer and give up deflector
guess we'll just have to BB ranged enemies slowly
spice veldt
with surge/trauma/void, i'd go for uncanny + slaughterer
the increased stagger from uncanny is probably worth it alone since the Force Sword is sorely lacking in that department
forest coral
Yeah that’s true
It was flinching ragers before they were able to attack
Might be something
spice veldt
i wonder if it's strong enough to break them out of their combo
another nice thing is that force sword's push-attack triggers uncanny strike
forest coral
Probably not, will need funny charge to do it
spice veldt
because it's always a weakspot hit
forest coral
Or multiple pushes maybe
spice veldt
i also think that uncanny strike increases the stagger of your pushes?
normally it takes two pushes to stagger a non-combo dreg rager
but with uncanny strike stacks, it takes a single push
nvm
that was slaughterer stacks increasing the strength of pushes
forest coral
would slaughterer increase stagger as well
sterile vale
Yes
spice veldt
i tested the stagger increase on the crusher and rager without having killed an enemy first
swapped to another uncanny FS without slaughterer just in case
so uncanny only applies to non-pushes and power increases apply to everything
rocky cedar
would slaughterer increase stagger as well
Power = damage + cleave + stagger
lethal folio
Rending multiplies your stagger by 2x the rending multiplier, which means you lose stagger if you have less than 50% rending
rocky cedar
Rending multiplies your stagger by 2x the rending multiplier, which means you lo...
That's so cooked
Wait @lethal folio can that also mess with trauma stagger with rending shockwave?
Or is brittleness different?
lethal folio
It's the same with debuff rending, which is why I don't recommend it on most things. It doesn't hurt trauma too much since rending shockwave stacks quick enough and trauma has overkill stagger.
cloud sequoia
useable?
sterile vale
As far as I know, you want Burn to be pretty high on a Purgatus.
echo turtle
it’s good
forest coral
burn not optimal but it decent
idle bay
Decent staff are rarity to come by - so grab it for sure 🙂 Even if it's lacking in main stats - you'll probaly won't see another one to grab in a few weeks
cyan notch
definitely usable
echo turtle
Damage if the staff is based on how many burn stacks an enemy has on it
by the time the stacks are high enough for the top end of burn to matter, it’s dead
Burn above like 12 stacks only comes into play against bosses and maybe ogryn or mutants if for some reason you are trying to burn then instead of head popping
digital narwhal
As far as I know, you want Burn to be pretty high on a Purgatus.
76% minimum to reach max stacks iirc
near gale
Burn above like 12 stacks only comes into play against bosses and maybe ogryn or...
I prefer zapping them, because it stuns them and eventually kills them.
Of course, you can't zap with the purgatus staff. >.>
For muties I zap them, keep them stunned for a couple seconds, then swap to my melee to finish them off. <.<
The couple seconds is to prep myself for if I have to dodge cause of poor aim.
idle bay
Zzap staff should have a saw-off-shotgun duct-tape to it... you know for shit and giggles 🙂
echo turtle
I prefer zapping them, because it stuns them and eventually kills them.
That works, purgatus is pretty bad against them
near gale
Zzap staff should have a saw-off-shotgun duct-tape to it... you know for shit an...
Yeah, just for shits and giggles. 😉
safe crystal
Boy, i sure do enjoy playing in a group with 3 vets unable to melee anything
This was a hi int heresy game
grizzled jasper
18 deaths holy
safe crystal
It took us 10 minutes to start the midgame event, they were on the ground constantly
uneven drift
malice?
idle bay
The Revives Penance progression was really impressive from that run ? 🙂
steel egret
safe crystal
Think i already have the frame
steel egret
Veteran moment
idle bay
Think i already have the frame
Check in Team section of Penances
Last one called "Up and at Em'! (5)"
I like how my Summary page looks:
safe crystal
I'll check in a bit, in a game with oggy
obtuse crypt
Hadron hates pyskers 
Currently on roll 550 trying to get 10% headshot damage
cyan notch
I like how my Summary page looks:
uneven drift
Hadron hates pyskers <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Currently on roll 550 tryin...
Even Hadron tells you that this perk is shit
obtuse crypt
Dunno what else to throw on the voidstrike staff cause the other perk is locked on crit chance
Cause the other other perk was fuckin carapace
I figure since I got the quell on weak spot hit I should at least match it with damage
I have no idea what I'm doing please help
uneven drift
Keep rollin'
spice veldt
so, weakspot isn't that good because the calculation for it is not what you'd expect
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/counterfire-is-still-not-applying-the-correct-amount-of-weakspot-damage/75377/4
idle bay
By the Emprah! You are a magnetic to bad palyers - to have that much revives done 🙂
idle bay
Hadron hates pyskers <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
Currently on roll 550 tryin...
Bucket of WD-40 and she will stop hating you.
safe crystal
Last one called "Up and at Em'! (5)"
Welp, almost there. Then again, i have 230 hours in so far, im disappointed i dont have it yet
Im a terrible team player
rugged field
Welp, almost there. Then again, i have 230 hours in so far, im disappointed i do...
i have about 115 hours and got the "help 100 downed operatives" a few days ago lol
idle bay
More than 500 hours and just a few revives 😦
spice veldt
i love letting my teammates die
i think I unlocked 1000 revives at around 400 hours
at least on steam achievements, I got the 100 revives 5 days after I got the game
idle bay
I remember doing 500th revive on really bad Knife zealot 🙂
I thanked him for helping with Penance 🙂
spice veldt
lmao yeah; i've seen a bunch of people reviving others and just thanking them for the penance
i unfortunately don't recall anything exceptional about when I got my penance
doesn't happen anymore as the playerbase seems to have stagnated
i also played super early on in the game's life cycle and on malice for a while
idle bay
Most exceptional moments for me was getting - On Overwatch and Untouchable by playing like Berserk of Khorne. I did NOT had goal in mind of obtatining those two 🙂
spice veldt
i distinctly remember when I got the penance for vet's airborne nade kill
because I was so bewildered by how I got it
it was right after we killed the assassination boss, so I was just dicking around and throwing nades into the air
and as the screen fades to black, I see the penance unlock
idle bay
i distinctly remember when I got the penance for vet's airborne nade kill
I just replicated video 1:1 of how one vet got it. And did excatly the same stupid blind way - it worked immidiately 🙂
spice veldt
pick n' mix was also a little funny
because that penance was when I realized that the commsplex midevent had an unusually high amount of gunners and shotgunners
idle bay
spice veldt
as if it weren't already obvious; but it certainly hammered in that fact
idle bay
I did it exactly like that 🙂
long wharf
some of us suffered greatly before Comms-plex released to do Pick-n-mix
idle bay
As for Pick and Mix - i'm not trying it on Principle. Fuck Fatshrk and those penances
i don't like to bother other players into helping me to do those stupid things 🙂
spice veldt
you can kinda get it naturally on commsplex
i wasn't even thinking about getting it
just a shit ton of gunner spawns
stood on top a box and was BBIng elites revealed by the vet's bio optics
it was a "huh, neat" moment
idle bay
Though with a gradual decay of vet players quality (take minute to kill poxwalker) - i may get as well by accident 🙂
Only 1 in 20 takes optics....
Selfish karkers!
spice veldt
early on, I think a lot of vets took on bio optics
but I guess they've settled on another feat choice
i think the other options are the % to regen nades on kill
and 15% toughness to allies near ranged kills
leaden thunder
I got long bomb one the ammo delivery map
just tossed a nade at the door when leaving
idle bay
that they waste to kill poxwankers anyway
strange wigeon
Nades are so good for ogryns and zealots it's a must pick
leaden thunder
Selfish karkers!
also all the feats in that teir are support
and all are pretty good
optics is the only one that doesn't grant direct combat power tho
idle bay
Optics with highlight of all the shooters is godsent combo that only few uses .
Paint all screen orange 🙂
And then some and then some
spice veldt
i think they patched it so that people running counterfire don't reveal non-elites anymore right
leaden thunder
and that grants info to allies, but is often not super useful because you can see them yourself, unless it's like lights out or something
grizzled jasper
Nades are so good for ogryns and zealots it's a must pick
I become a fkin psyker magnet in pugs every time I run nade regen kill
idle bay
It only don;t highlight Stalkers
They don't consider them to be Ranged - despite them being ranged 🙂
leaden thunder
which is stupid
spice veldt
dreg stalkers get highlighted but not scab stalkers
leaden thunder
i'd take a nerf to the weakpot bonus that it grants for the ability for it to highlight the scab stalkers
spice veldt
very cool intended design
leaden thunder
everyday of the week
spice veldt
it's such a weird way of balancing ult extensions
idle bay
it's such a weird way of balancing ult extensions
Balancing? it's a forbidden word here
leaden thunder
it's also far and above the best one, most the time, the highlighting ogryn one I see almost 0 reason to use
the reload + toughness regen is nice for a couple weapons
spice veldt
do they pin ideas to a bulletin board and throw darts to see what they should implement
the highlighting ogryn was especially useless because they refreshed your ult even without picking that feat; though they fixed that I think
grizzled jasper
I do agree not highlighting stalkers is dumb
At least it highlights green bois
They’re the worst
leaden thunder
tbh it could not give any bonus, and imo it's still be the strongest option
it probably shouldn't give any bonus
grizzled jasper
That takes a hit to our ammo economy but yea it would still be strong
leaden thunder
like maybe cut it to 10% increase, just so it does "something" then bump the ogryn one up a bit
grizzled jasper
And yes I know xii good but I find that thing boring af
leaden thunder
I think the toughness regen one is good as is
spice veldt
i hate the xii because hipfire on it is doodoo
leaden thunder
same
spice veldt
i hate aiming with guns
leaden thunder
that's why I use the semi auto vraks now
on the topic of modifying ults
what would help the psyker talent the reduces cd but makes you spend warp charges on it
just make it not take all your charges?
spice veldt
i like the suggestions of making quicken add some other buff
movement speed buff, attack speed buff (charge rate), etc.
leaden thunder
so you'd have AB for soulblaze, the BB one and a "normal" staff one
crystal jolt
it's also far and above the best one, most the time, the highlighting ogryn one ...
The ogryn one gives more damage to ogryns and bosses so if you're going for big target / boss kills and don't want to have worse ammo economy with the reload one, its pretty okay.
strange wigeon
bio optics doesn't highlight shooters to the team even with counterfire iirc
spice veldt
it used to before a patch
crystal jolt
Yeah, it only highlights non-ogryn elites and specials to other team members
spice veldt
unless my memory is gaslighting me
strange wigeon
it does ye iirc
spice veldt
i'm pretty sure it highlighted shooters to me as a psyker some time ago
safe crystal
the reload + toughness regen is nice for a couple weapons
All i know about this one is a lot of vets use this to extend their mag dump with bolters into hordes, and i havent seen them use it in any other way
spice veldt
if the vet has a knife, I'm somewhat okay since I sort of see the idea; but if they have the power sword, I just mentally speak out bruh
safe crystal
Then they go 'Where ammo?'
grizzled jasper
I need ammo!
spice veldt
and they spam that shit in chat
grizzled jasper
Places ammo crate near edge with barrel
spice veldt
you're a genius
safe crystal
Wait,thats brilliant
wet jacinth
maiden wolf
Fuuuuuck yeeeaaah, T4 warp nexus
When blessing crafting comes online I'm gonna be set!
safe crystal
BB too strong, reverted last changes
safe crystal
Increase cast time by 2 seconds just to be sure its not too strong
feral crater
When blessing crafting comes online I'm gonna be set!
just 17 hours to go
summer prairie
It's like 0.2% chance probably
maiden wolf
I don't think I'm gonna grab it, although I've been told items with T4 blessings already on them have a higher chance of rolling another when you consecrate them.
feral crater
Crafting coming in a couple of hours so you could grab it just to unlock the blessing
maiden wolf
Yeah, I scrapped a bunch of stuff to get it
I'm gonna consecrate it up to gold just in case that dude was right
frank talon
17 hours is more than a "couple" don't get my hopes up like that
echo turtle
Crafting coming in a couple of hours so you could grab it just to unlock the ble...
exactly. Don’t sleep on any T4s
Is the patch actually confirmed for in 17 hours?
still hearth
Its planned.
summer prairie
My shop has 6 t3 blessings and one t4
feral crater
Looking to put out is a bit of a... risky word choice but it's more absolute than NEXTWEEK
summer prairie
definitely
still hearth
Everyone except one person is like "SHOP IS GOOD"
feral crater
long wharf
did something to the shops
what kind of "something"?
long wharf
could be you're just getting lucky
summer prairie
It's multiple people seeing the same, including t4s and those used to be like 5x rarer than 380s
They basically they were going to do that in the patch, just updated the backend early
feral crater
To date the only T4 blessing I got was speedload for the pistol XD
Not that I played a ton...
long wharf
well, we'll see if they mention it in patch notes
long wharf
looks like they're trying to drop the patch tomorrow
feral crater
Well my switch is unflipped...
long wharf
so we'll see
summer prairie
Happened right after they announced the patch tomorrow
long wharf
see, that's the problem with trying discern order from the chaos of randomness
leaden thunder
when the chaos seems to be consistent
long wharf
even a short lived pattern is possible in randomness
long wharf
which is why a single trial/run/test group isn't enough
leaden thunder
and patch tomorrow so idk
but it certianly feels like they fliped a switch somewhere
long wharf
Sour Milk needs to be addressed as well
leaden thunder
melk has ha dmore t4s for me then I have seen
granted
they where shit t4s
but t4s nonetheless
long wharf
I've been checking every day, and I'm not seeing that at all
I've seen one or two T4 blessings a week
always shit ones on guns
leaden thunder
today specifically
summer prairie
Melk would be useless now if they don't buff him too
leaden thunder
my vet has 2 t4s
my ogryn doesn't have any I don't think
my zealot didn't but had a lot of "good" stuff
my psyker has 3 t4s
summer prairie
Mine is the same as normal, I doubt the backend was updated before melk refresh
long wharf
my psyker has one, Brutal Momentum
summer prairie
Regular shop was trash until last refresh
leaden thunder
precog, speedload and riposte
long wharf
I'd get it, but I only have enough Milkies for one good T4, and I'm waiting to see Bloodthirsty on a fsword
leaden thunder
it just turns the game into vermintide 3
we got bait and switched
it was all a ruse
long wharf
25 pages of changelog
jesus.
there's no way psyker comes out ahead in the next patch
summer prairie
" but as some folks have noticed, we've already done some backend changes in preparation for the patch"
summer prairie
long wharf
hmm, three of my four characters currently have 3+ 360+ base modifier weapons in the docket shop
honestly, they should just make Sour Milk hand out T4 blessings
every blessing be T4
people wouldn't complain about Milkies being pointless, then
you'd run the dailies/weeklies in order to buy the T4 blessings you want
leaden thunder
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735819155608961044/1077612275621433475/122073849_1222494858131075_7895553307449525973_n.jpg stolen from memes
long wharf
let the memes stay there
leaden thunder
I refuse
hollow lake
i honestly think its not as bad as assassin in vermintide 2
leaden thunder
hollow lake
those fuckes could track you mid air
summer prairie
I think you are going to get all the t4s you need just from the gifts if they are buffed
leaden thunder
idk dogs seem buggier rn then the assassins
I was able to shove an assassin much easier thne a dog
hollow lake
i was stuck in a blight storm and the thing curved midair to hit me
leaden thunder
hollow lake
bullshit at its finest
leaden thunder
get fucked Iguess
hollow lake
talking about beng fucked
anyone would be willing to help me achieve the dreadful Malleus Monstrum?(i'm in a party of 3 already)
long wharf
hit up the LFG channel
hollow lake
any pointers to wheer exactly in the server it is? Lotso channels here
feral crater
Depends on where you are
leaden thunder
should be right above the voice channel
hollow lake
got it, thanks for da help mate
maiden wolf
Okay, another T4 blessing just appeared in my shop. I think FS may have tweaked the spawn-rates.
clear heath
I'm not getting any t4s in my hourly shop but i do see a lot more high rating stuff
maiden wolf
Yeah, I'm gonna be careful not to sink all my credits on this stuff
maybe they're preparing to release an even higher tier of blessing?
clear heath
well they said they'd buff the random shops, probably so they still serve some purpose when we're able to just spam buy whatever grey weapons we want
i guess we might have gotten that shop buff early
long wharf
I wonder what the incentive will be to spend Milkies then
clear heath
well supposedly those will be easier to get too
so it probably won't hurt as much to spend them anyways
safe crystal
I wonder what the incentive will be to spend Milkies then
You get to skip the plasteel grind by doing the weekly mission grind instead
I N C R E D I B L E
long wharf
we'll see
clear heath
with all these t4 blessings showing up in hourly shop, maybe getting a rare blessing like bloodthirsty or power cycler from it will be more realistic
long wharf
maybe
void mural
i honestly think its not as bad as assassin in vermintide 2
Nah man, those guys were fast, bs sometimes, and annoying, but were reliable and worked properly
Dogs are just absolute bug riddled nonsense with garbage hitboxes, and you're not allowed to dodge them.
I've dodged a dog once in my 200 hours of darktide, and I reliably dodged and pushed gutter runners off myself in vermintide
frank talon
I just bonk hounds on the snoot if I see them coming
Sometimes it feels like they materialize out of nowhere but I'd say a good 80% I can get the snoot-boop and deal with them
feral crater
If you see a hound running at you, F in chat
void mural
Yeah, its possible, but I've had times where I hit them during their leap, and they just ignore the hit and jump on me anyway
long wharf
when the poxhound leaps at a target, it's just an animation
the target is locked, there's no dodging at that point
unlike mutant charging
frank talon
I mean that video shows someone dodging mid-leap so....?
void mural
Yeah, hence making them absolute bs. You have to be prescient to dodge them
frank talon
Slide probably helps
dusty zenith
t4 in hourly shop
long wharf
it definitely does
frank talon
t4 in hourly shop
Stop I'm at work :'(
void mural
You have to guess if they're going to jump at you immediately or do spinnies in a corner to delay and then leap
long wharf
I reinstalled Darktide at work
dusty zenith
i know the blessing is EH but why are T4s in my hourly shop
void mural
They should basically be a direct analogue to gutter runners
frank talon
Even if it's meh, grab it anyways. It'll be a permanent acquisition and who knows it might be part of a niche build later down the road
safe crystal
They realized it was too early for the switch lmao
long wharf
if that keeps up for the next hourly rotation, I'd say they rolled back the backend changes until tomorrow
summer prairie
yes, my shop seems to be back to normal or close to it atleast
dusty zenith
same
long wharf
average modifier total is higher than it was, yeah
azure goblet
You guys think i've grinded enough shit to get one maxed item come next patch?
leaden thunder
perhaps
clear heath
no
long wharf
the grind never ends
maiden wolf
t4 in hourly shop
I got 2 T4s today
azure goblet
you think i need more crafting mats or ordo dockets?
maiden wolf
I'd save my dockets for blessings you actually want, you may end up blowing them all on meh T4s
azure goblet
i considering the possibility that i blow over 1 mil ordo and dont get a single 380 force sword
void mural
Yeah, buying crap RNG greys and never getting blessings are my 2 worries for the future of crafting
twilit flicker
If i remember, werent they going to make balance changes to blessings as well? Or is this false hope.
long wharf
they haven't announced that they were doing a balance pass on blessings yet
void mural
I don't remember it being mentioned?
long wharf
but with 24 pages of changes, who knows
void mural
I'd hope the majority of blessing changes goes to ogryn if they are
leaden thunder
you guys need them as well
long wharf
Psyker is in dire need of blessing changes
leaden thunder
fucken riposte
void mural
Everyone needs them but ogryn NEEDS them
leaden thunder
ogryn and psyker 100% need their blessings looked at
void mural
Most of his literally don't work with the weapon type they're on
long wharf
sounds like psyker staff blessings, frankly
leaden thunder
continuous fire on a single shot weapon
void mural
"Stacks with continuous firing" looks at 1 mag size gun
void mural
Yeah, doesn't work
twilit flicker
I was about to mention that one, poor ogryn.
leaden thunder
also bash is like riposte level of trash
void mural
Yeah
safe crystal
5 whole percents?!
void mural
There's so many blessings that need numbers changes
safe crystal
We get 4's round these parts
leaden thunder
actually
idk if it's 5% maxed
t3 is 3% crit chance for bash
it might only be 4%
twilit flicker
We get 4's round these parts
And we have to share two of em!
One thing I love about ogryns is their giant attack arc, but also theyre funny.
Lets hope blessing get fixed up!
leaden thunder
"emprah says there is strength in ignorance, I am very strong"
void mural
Ha
twilit flicker
-Professional berating the whole team for sloppy fighting
-The Ogryn agrees, they are so jolly
Ogryn asking why everyone is gone in Throneside.
Me: They're all dead, boss.
void mural
They have some of the best responses
twilit flicker
Psyker blessing most likely to get changed?
I was lucky enough to get T4 Shred the day after I got the soulblaze on crit one.
twilit flicker
They gotta change the one that gives 5 max something on peril. Or the one based on stamina.
leaden thunder
this is for psyker only weapons and is my opinion
safe crystal
They gotta change the one that gives 5 max something on peril. Or the one based ...
Its worded like shit, it gives power based on peril, stacks 4 times. I think a stack at 30, 50, then 2 at 97
leaden thunder
precog, riposte, warp flurry(probably just a fix), sustained fire(also maybe just a fix), blazing spirit, superiortiy(if it actually exists I am looking at the games lantern list), executor, unstable power
those are the main ones I think need a change/buff
for psyker only weapons
safe crystal
This needs to be reworded
leaden thunder
even it stacking it's still pretty shite
safe crystal
Even if it said stacks, its still shit
leaden thunder
oh yeah rending shock wave need rewording
because it doesn't actually do rending
it does brittleness
also trauma doesn't care about armor
so it's for allies only or for swaping to a melee
echo turtle
Yeah, its possible, but I've had times where I hit them during their leap, and t...
I’ve dodged them, but only with high %+ dodge distance weapons. Not sure if it mattered
void mural
Yeah, hence them being bs. They need to just be dodgable
vagrant cedar
leaden thunder
essentially yes
tall mango
crafting and rewards change right?
leaden thunder
yeah
void mural
You can buy weapon specific random greys at any time, and blessings are unlocked permanently when you unlock them, but are separated by rarity and weapon type, and there's no combine blessings anymore
leaden thunder
not that there was combining blessing in the first place
void mural
It was the original incarnation, even if it never actually existed
tall mango
Finally a completed crafting system
tall mango
What’s missing still?
tall mango
oh ffs
leaden thunder
tbh I personally am fine with the one blessing lock
but i'd very much likje it if we could upgrade said locked blessing
but if the rng is anything like it was earlier today
then we'll be chillin
tall mango
Either upgradable locked blessing
or unupgraded unlocked blessing
leaden thunder
we had people finding high rating t4s in the hourly shop earlier when they turned on the back end rng changes
so it may also not be a big deal
I know I saw some cracked bases in the shop when it was turned on
idk if it still is but it seems to have been either turned off or toned down
karmic copper
So 3/4 deflector with something else, or my current 376 with Bloodthirsty, and rank 4 mass modifier on crit.? Force sword obv
Or bloodthirsty with crits 4 attacks of soul blaze
void mural
Consistent 380 or near greys, and much easier time getting rare blessings, and I'll consider this crafting patch a win. We'll have to see if we get that
karmic copper
Not sure which one slaughter is
leaden thunder
as there will be a lot of changes
void mural
For real
void mural
If they add power level chance to the RNG pool, screw that
karmic copper
Does power scale like in verm2?
leaden thunder
idk
karmic copper
Staff, stagger, damage, head pop
leaden thunder
it adds damage, cleave and stagger
void mural
As far as I know, power level just reflects the stats of the item? Doesn't actually increase your effectiveness like V2 hero power?
leaden thunder
slaughterer goes up to 75% power
so that's why it's broken as fuck compared to 90% of other blessings
leaden thunder
As far as I know, power level just reflects the stats of the item? Doesn't actua...
yeah power level doesn't do anything
void mural
Yeah, there's so many outliers for OP and UP blessings
leaden thunder
it's just the weapon stats
void mural
Yeah
karmic copper
Fek me just checked out slaughterer.i don't think I've ever seen that 1. 175h played all on psyker. Fek me
void mural
RNG being RNG
leaden thunder
tbf
you have bloodthirsty you said
right?
becuase that's one of the most rare blessings in the game
as it's only t4
karmic copper
How could anything even compare with that lol. Even perma crit would do that much
Ah
leaden thunder
I just mean rng wise
slow karma
Weird hour for a patch but I'm fuckin' ready
sly matrix
I dont get muties, I feel like sometimes I can stun them sometimes I cant, both with the surge staff and with the ulti. What's the deal?
jovial mural
I just spam surge at them till they stop lol
ult/ability doesn't really work on them a lot
coral ledge
Pardon my sudden intrusion but I came to ask for help with a penance
fallen sleet
I dont get muties, I feel like sometimes I can stun them sometimes I cant, both ...
as far as I understand it, surge staff still deals an amount of stagger, which increases with charge length among other things. That stagger needs to be enough to stagger a muti in order for it to actually get stunned
if you quick charge a surge attack, it may not be enough to stun
long wharf
my experience has me thinking that the surge staff does a certain amount of stagger per tick on the enemy
which is why you need more charged shots to stagger/stun mutants
void mural
I dont get muties, I feel like sometimes I can stun them sometimes I cant, both ...
Also they're really easy to dodge. Just dodge out of the way when they raise their hand to grab yoj
long wharf
dodge to your left, the mutant's right
or whichever side is the opposite of their raised hand
twilit flicker
What if both hands are raised? Like they dont care which ever one.
safe crystal
Just hide behind someone, the mutant will grab whoever it reaches first after it raises its arm regardless of original target
safe crystal
Find that camo vet, they're standing still so shouldnt be hard
long wharf
wait, did the patch drop today?
long wharf
all this backend stuff better be in the changelog
void mural
or whichever side is the opposite of their raised hand
Wait, that matters?
tulip drum
a backend change?
Higher tier blessings and higher stat weapons are showing up more often now too... Backend change already in
slow karma
Wait, that matters?
Yeah the left side of a charging mutant is safer to get around because the right side has the function arm they use to clothesline you
Also, dodging may be easy but only if you have a mobile weapon out
It's super easy on psyker cuz they have the best base dodge
But this does not hold true for other classes and can even catch psykers off guard depending on loadout
tepid sinew
Is this actually worth it, or does the low damage modifier make it bad?
slow karma
It's a claw sword, it's mid by default
you can't even leverage limbsplitter with it's push attack like an antax
tepid sinew
2440 marks in melks shop, its the first time I have seen something that seems maybe worth it
slow karma
This sure ain't it chief
void mural
Yeah the left side of a charging mutant is safer to get around because the right...
Huh, I guess I'll have to pay more attention and see if that's why sometimes I feel like I should have dodged mutie. I've never associated it with which arm they raise or which direction I dodge. I just get the dodge 90% of the time.