if I'm about to be shot at, I go for a dodge slide instead of sprint slide
#psyker-class
spice veldt
near wyvern
And with a good mobility weapon (mk V duelling sword, combat blade) you can often just chain spring slides as the enemies fire volleys so you have time to get up to speed again.
near wyvern
if I'm about to be shot at, I go for a dodge slide instead of sprint slide
If I am stationary, yes, if not, then I sprint slide first.
void mural
Yeah, all good stuff, but I mean when I'm trying to close distance on shooters. Sometimes they're just 5 ft away (I feel like the melee engagement mechanic should work here, but it doesnt), but they have rifles and shoot me and knock me back while I try to engage them in melee and their shooting won't let me get a sprint and slide
spice veldt
well you can sprint while casting
ball projectile LMB is nice for staggering a few shooters
near wyvern
Yeah, all good stuff, but I mean when I'm trying to close distance on shooters. ...
Yeah it takes forever for them to change to melee, especially the dreg ranged enemies. However, the dregs also need to swap their weapon so what you should do is run past the front line and start attacking the backline.
spice veldt
slide and pop an LMB
near wyvern
And with run past I mean run into them and then past them
BB 97 corner hug always works against ranged and is the safest option tho. So unless you absolutely need to (no cover available) don't engage on melee but play it safe.
Even zealots cannot just jump in at damnation
void mural
For sure, when trying to stop them shooting by melee engagement, I run to the middle of the pack, that's not the problem. It's trying to slide to avoid the fire while I close distance, and their knockbacks not letting me slide
near wyvern
Zealots change from "I came to kick yer ass" into "I am the bodyguard now, get down Mr. President (knocks a mob off the vet)"
On Damnation
Those who don't end up dead within 2 minutes.
near wyvern
For sure, when trying to stop them shooting by melee engagement, I run to the mi...
You gotta start sprinting while in cover. If they catch you with your pants down in the middle of the corridor and there is no cover nearby, it's over Anakin, they have the high ground.
FS deflector is the only thing that can save a situation like that, but that's just a cover up for bad positioning.
void mural
Well there's the problem
Also, I'm playing difficulty 3/4, so it's not a death sentence unless I'm low hp, but it is quite frustrating and damaging
near wyvern
Just try to move from cover to cover. If you haven't tried yet, try duelling sword mk V with a + stamina curio. Will make positioning so much easier while still ok in defending yourself from horde and killing mutants.
void mural
I guess it's not lack of skill there, but that I need to position better
near wyvern
Other option is combat blade with kinetic deflection, use push attack spam with that, but it's not as user friendly as the duelling sword
Cause it's so much easier to find heads with the duelling sword.
barren cloud
good thing i got this on the psyker
rigid blade
Is this a good baseline to slap BM on when the update comes out?
pine relic
Damn you hadron
silk flax
Is this a good baseline to slap BM on when the update comes out?
DMG is low, but if that's all you got I would say yeah
dapper dove
pine relic
near wyvern
Palpatine cosplayer spotted
maiden wolf
idle bay
Just need 125 more missions to do....
gleaming comet
finally got Cliffhanger!
so now I've got both penances that can be done on any difficulty, and Warp Battery
hazy warren
nice
idle bay
75th mission of week is done.. here goes 4th character...
void mural
Man, don't burn yourself out
It'll be easier when the patch comes out at the end of the month
I've actually been trading out the 25 missions one for grims usually
idle bay
Hair Physics in Karktide 10/10
idle bay
Man, don't burn yourself out
I'm having fun - i have a very comfy and powerful build on every character. I experimented with guns while week and made significan upgrades to vets and zealot, as well as got myself a Gun Psyker build 🙂 Only sad part - i have nothing to with Ogryn's gear - it's perfect!
If only MK III Cleaver was at last decent vs Bulwarks and Smasher - that will be an item to chase with great blessings/perks. But no ... it's only great vs everything else.... so no point of chasing a a sype cleaver
leaden thunder
the bullbutcher kicks major ass
get your self a grenade gauntlet for those big guys and go to town
idle bay
MK III SLAYS anything in seconds en mass , but just scratches the Smasher and this pisses me off - i don't like switching to GG to deal with them ( and i have perfect GG)
My primary and only melee weapon for Ogryn
leaden thunder
if only the shovel didn't have a cleave cap of 3
idle bay
It does not need one 🙂
I don't know if it's BM working - but it works wonder vs human sized - be than horde, scabs or dregs - stunlocks and slays
Not as fast as cleaver though
void mural
I'm having fun - i have a very comfy and powerful build on every character. I ex...
Fair enough, just jeez, that's a lot of time per week in a game that even I say isn't rewarding atm. Enjoy it if you're having fun with that much playtime though
feral topaz
I'm having fun - i have a very comfy and powerful build on every character. I ex...
I've been messing with ascendant blaze build and voidstrike, is quite fun.
icy sable
My primary and only melee weapon for Ogryn
Aye looks similar to my shuvel
scarlet timber
the emperor has ordered that you USEE A SURGE FORCE STAFF SO YOU MUST!
pine relic
Hair Physics in Karktide 10/10
lilac tapir
when the patch hits I'm planning on replacing Run n Gun with Terrifying Barrage on this one, any advice if I should replace the +8% ranged crit hit dmg into something more useful?
icy sable
when the patch hits I'm planning on replacing Run n Gun with Terrifying Barrage ...
Replace Run n Gun with uninterruptable secondary attack
Crit chance or dmg (I'd say dmg) replaced with flak or carapace?
lilac tapir
Replace Run n Gun with uninterruptable secondary attack
hmm but that's something that can be fixed with improved gameplay (enemies interrupting your cast) while the AoE suppress is a pretty good addition, isn't it?
leaden thunder
crit chance is decent on purge but yeah i'd replace the crit damage with like flak
spice veldt
if you like to run up to shooters, focused channeling is nice; otherwise it's not too needed
leaden thunder
honestly
icy sable
hmm but that's something that can be fixed with improved gameplay (enemies inter...
You don't always have the option to move is the thing
lilac tapir
does it go up to 5% or higher?
icy sable
There is at least 1 more tier for Warp Nexus
leaden thunder
most have 4
spice veldt
t3 is 4% so t4 is probably 5%
lilac tapir
does hip fire work with secondary attack on purge?
cause I can already pretty much spam primary to get myself out of bad situation while moving/running and only stopping for a second to fire
icy sable
does hip fire work with secondary attack on purge?
It's the regular non-charged attack
lilac tapir
ah, doesn't look that useful then 🙂
icy sable
And the best Purgatus users will weave in attacks with fire
lilac tapir
since primary is basically aoe interrupt and saved me mutliple times when I was left alone by my team
frigid burrow
What curios do you guys usually run with? I have a deflector sword and go purge staff usually, right now I have 2 health and 1 wound but was thinking if +stam is worth since I read it increases the effectiveness of the deflector block even with the peril blocking
spice veldt
if you have block eff on your curios, you don't really need +stam except to have extra bars for pushing or running
frigid burrow
Oh didn't think of that
spice veldt
otherwise feel free to go for it if you think it's worth it
lilac tapir
I'm running 1 wound and 2x shields (both blessing and perk) + shield regeneration perks so probably that's why I don't have issues with a lot of shooters
although I know that's probably not the cookie cutter build for curios
I just got used to having a lot of shields with fast regen
leaden thunder
toughness regen is a must for pretty much every class IMo
whether or not you run actual toughness or not
spice veldt
i think Psyker needs it the less because our Toughness feats are pretty goated
but it's certainly good
leaden thunder
it's better then most curio perks so it's an easy choice
lilac tapir
I read some guide that because we have the least HP (or well, I guess same as veteran? not sure) investing in health curios is not recommended because it's all % based, so instead they said to go with full Toughness and regen as much as possible and while it might not be 100% true it does work for me quite well
leaden thunder
lotsa of things can instantly pop your toughness
lilac tapir
that is true 🙂
leaden thunder
as well as melee dealing bonus damage to toughness
spice veldt
I'm of the opinion that Psyker is super safe in melee because of our stam regen, so ranged is the only issue
frigid burrow
I find my toughness is either 100 or 0 but never getting chipped or regenning slowly
leaden thunder
so I run hp
I plan my defensives on planing for when thing go wrong
so I run hp on all classes
spice veldt
that sounds like good planning
leaden thunder
but that's just me
spice veldt
i like to take risks without losing HP, so I stack toughness
lilac tapir
I also run + 40% bomber and 40% sniper resist in total, cause in some games I'm like a magnet for these two and when I'm purging I often don't see the red beam/approaching bomber
leaden thunder
btw
spice veldt
toughness is usually fine unless you get caught by flames in a corridor
leaden thunder
bomber res doesn't work on the fire
frigid burrow
I think I'll stick with the +hp but I'll aim for rerolling toughness regen
lethal folio
Boot resistance.
frigid burrow
I got folded more than once by that straight kick to the chest man
leaden thunder
bomber res is super not worth, but if you didn't know about that it doesn't work how it should then it seems better then it is
same kinda tihng for gunner resist
since it only effects actual gunners and reapers
not shotgunners or shooters
lilac tapir
so you're saying that most bomber dmg comes from the fire (or whatever the green explosion thing is) and bomber resist doesnt cover that? 🙂
leaden thunder
yeah
lilac tapir
nice one FS
leaden thunder
lethal folio
The fire doesn't even do that much damage, especially if you spam jump.
it's the slowdown and toughness break that ruins you.
leaden thunder
it just insta pops toughness
spice veldt
still deletes your toughness
frigid burrow
The slow down is so annoying
spice veldt
veterans in shambles
frigid burrow
You'd think your guy would run faster when he's on fire rather than slower
lilac tapir
I bet they will fix it at some point though, probably in like 3 years 🙂
frigid burrow
Actually this is psyker chat we should just do some gigabrain move like levitate over the fire
lilac tapir
enough for everyone to reroll bomber resist into something else haha
spice veldt
invest in Sprint eff to run from fire
wet jacinth
lilac tapir
btw Flak dmg better than Unarmored? I read that Flak enemies have the least HP (while unarmored have more HP than flak) so not really worth having Flak dmg
leaden thunder
flak enemies tend to be more important then unarmored
as like a bunch of elites are flak
spice veldt
I think only one Unarmoured enemy has more HP than flak
and that's the dreg Gunner?
depends on the wep and whether you're doing a light or heavy with melee
leaden thunder
it wouldn't suprise me if dreg shooters where tankier then scab ones hp wise
spice veldt
oh wait, I think dreg stalkers have more HP than scab stalkers
maybe
both bruisers have the same hp
flak is prob more elite oriented cuz of scab ragers and maulers
leaden thunder
I find scabs tend to be more dangerous
lethal folio
Flak covers most elites and the dreg bruisers.
lilac tapir
only took 15 minutes to roll 25% flak dmg - I feel they have to change this mechanic so that after your reroll becomes free of charge all rolls would yield max lvl perks and you would just cycle through the available ones. it being random while there is no cost anymore makes no sense to me as it's only a time waste at this point and doesn't serve any purpose other than annoying the playerbase
spice veldt
they tuned them down by 20% a patch ago right
fierce sinew
so I have a potentially silly question
has anyone ever actually seen tier 4 warp nexus?
the 5% one
leaden thunder
I haven't that's for sure
I saw the crit soulblaze for force sword for the first time yesterday
lilac tapir
that one is not possible on purge though anymore, right?
leaden thunder
the force sword one
lilac tapir
I think you could roll it on purge back in beta but I might be wrong
it was a very OP combo I remember
not sure if that was the one though
leaden thunder
maybe closed beta, definitely not the open beta
lilac tapir
it was a while ago so probably yea
lethal folio
lilac tapir
is 68% crit bonus on surge a literal +68% to crit?
lethal folio
No.
leaden thunder
it's like up to 20% maybe
fierce sinew
ty, do you happen to remember if this was from melk?
leaden thunder
if it's anything like the one for revolver
fierce sinew
it looks like a melk
lethal folio
I wouldn't have bought that from melk.
fierce sinew
I'm only just realizing I've seen zero of these in 300 and change hours on psyker, with a couple dozen tier 3 and I'm not going to even bother counting 1-2
if I ever see it at melk I definitely am lol
lilac tapir
btw any thoughts on stacking combat ability regen on psyker? aura is already quite powerful and I feel it's like a wasted stat on curio
leaden thunder
imo, the % isn't high enough on it for it to be worth it
if it was like 5% or higher
lilac tapir
yea same thoughts here
lethal folio
The fact that 'based on warp charge' is nonsense scaling and doesn't even go up to 5 stacks is why it isn't worth it.
Whoops
Yeah regen isn't that great.
leaden thunder
what blessings do we want on surge?
lethal folio
I like terrifying barrage so that you can get an explosion of suppression between lightning bursts.
leaden thunder
mainly just looking at melk, he has one with decent stats and warp flurry, but that doesn't work well iirc
shut valve
So does warp nexus give you up to 5% crit chance based on peril? Honestly I find the description they wrote confusing
lethal folio
You get one at 30%, another at 50%, and two more at 97%.
shut valve
But is 1 stack = 1%?
lethal folio
Each stack gives the listed critical boost.
shut valve
That description sucks ass.
It says max 5% crit chance. So is that just a lie and each stack = 5%?
lethal folio
Descriptions are very bad.
shut valve
So basically for T4 = 5%, 10% and 20% increased based on warp?
spice veldt
nope
it just resets extremely easily
if you swap weapons or break your attack chain, it resets
and if you miss an attack, it'll also reset
so it needs to be repeated/chained and it needs to actually hit a weakspot
limber silo
So basically for T4 = 5%, 10% and 20% increased based on warp?
5% at 20, 10% at 40, 15% at 60, etc.
Warp Nexus is actually pretty good for Purge since crits apply double stacks
limber silo
it just resets extremely easily
So Executor sucks
limber silo
Hypothetically speaksing, you should not be getting many repeated hits on anything since you should kill most stuff in a couple hits
spice veldt
? you mean that a highly conditional +5% power increase is worse than a 12.5% power increase on kill?
tbf, you get a lot of repeated weakspot hits when hitting a horde
limber silo
True
spice veldt
as long as you hit a weakspot, you get an executor stack
if you hit a non-weakspot, it won't matter as long as you hit at least one weakspot
but it also dumps all of its stacks all at once like pre-patch warp charges
so still pretty doodoo
limber silo
Is there a guide online that goes into detail about how power works?
leaden thunder
+damage, stagger and cleave
limber silo
Like formulas and shit?
leaden thunder
equal to the % power
spice veldt
actually a 1-to-1 increase on damage, stagger, and cleave?
leaden thunder
so 5% power is 5% damage and increased to stagger, and increase t ocleave
afaik yes
spice veldt
dafuq
leaden thunder
that's why slaughterer is so busted
spice veldt
what crack is the balance team smoking
i thought it'd be split between all three or some shit
limber silo
bruh
leaden thunder
I am 100% sure that it gives damage 1 to 1
it may not give the others that
but it's still alot
limber silo
Slaughterer is great, I have it on a fs that I can scrap next patch
Deflector + Slaughterer here I come
leaden thunder
it's like the second best blessing in the entire game
spice veldt
i missed a t4 slaughterer blessing in the melk shop early on in this game :(
i'll probably replace my Deflector with Unstable Power
leaden thunder
the first one being headtaker for heavy sword
becuase that variant is just slaughterer but better
spice veldt
does headtaker reset on breaking your attack chain?
leaden thunder
nope
leaden thunder
headtaker is the duration one
spice veldt
bro power increase on hit, and it scales similarly as slaughterer
limber silo
I can't wait to get Shred + Devastating Strike on my chainsword too
leaden thunder
oh d strike got shadow nerfed
limber silo
FR?
leaden thunder
it also breaks the rev I think
they made it have no duration. but I don't think they changed the description
shred + rampage or savage sweep is good tho
limber silo
Nvm then, guess Rampage + Wrath I guess
spice veldt
i always watch the forums after every patch to check for any shadow nerfs/changes
limber silo
Bloodthirsty is dumb imo
Wouldn't it be cooler if it made specials auto crit? Chainsword and FS specials would be ridiculous
leaden thunder
I think at one point it gave 5 seconds of crits
spice veldt
it's also on special kill
so you can't really pair it with blazing spirit to use on high hp enemies
limber silo
I know, that's why I think it's dumb Arco
spice veldt
unless you have commons to proc on
spice veldt
yeah
limber silo
Yes
leaden thunder
I finally saw a blazing spirit so I may make a shred blazing one at some point
limber silo
It would be cooler if your special attack has 100% crit instead of after the special kills
leaden thunder
just for some fun
spice veldt
only problem I have with shred is that it's "repeated hit"
limber silo
Yeah, I was considering it for a purge build
spice veldt
so it presumably dumps stacks on block/swap
so I can't even QQ switch with it unless I want to lose stacks
lethal folio
Slaughterer Force sword is too good.
limber silo
fr
limber silo
Uncanny Strike is pretty nice too
leaden thunder
I have been looking for one of those for my shovel on vet
limber silo
rending is always good to have regardless of weapon type
spice veldt
:o uncanny strike isn't a repeated hit
spice veldt
wow i love it when my blessings don't encourage me to hold a single weapon until the end of time
limber silo
I do have Exorcist on my Deflector FS rn, so I can still run it with low quell staves
spice veldt
and actual synergy between primaries and secondaries?
limber silo
Idk if I wanna give that up tho
lethal folio
I 'm not sure rending is that useful on forceswords, I'll just check the armour mods.
limber silo
It'll fuck up those idiots with flak helmets
spice veldt
and it's just weakspot hit that stacks, so it'll probably boost special dmg againt carapace
ye
lethal folio
Rending doesn't do anything to cleave.
From what I see, rending is only really helping you against uncharged attacks super armour and maniacs
pine relic
This is my Psyker limited acquisition, are you serious Sir Melk
heady sapphire
kek
long wharf
yep, still dropping
slow karma
There are games out there in the hundreds. That spent way more time and money being developed
They have time.
Very little, but they have it
twilit flicker
@scarlet timber I dont use Voistrike myself, but you can always use the search function to see what others have said.
plucky perch
fellow spark heads i have a conundrum why is my mk4 dueling sword doing over 400 damage per light attack but specficly against maniacs?
twilit flicker
I wouldnt know but telling us what perks and blessings you have might help give these other guys a better idea.
leaden thunder
a lot of maniacs take extra damage from melee iirc
plucky perch
3% crit chance on repeated hits stacks 5 times..... i think i figured it out against the mutie hound and tox flamer specficly its the base maniac numbers being multiplied by its near garunteed chance to hit a weak spot multiplied by the psykentic aura ontop of that
scarlet timber
fellow spark heads i have a conundrum why is my mk4 dueling sword doing over 400...
Mkv for life
I like my heavies
As overheads
plucky perch
thats probabaly easier to land
but poke poke poke is fun
and if you get the ryhtm poke poke poke is almost as fast as light attack
scarlet timber
Overhead got rhythm too you know
If anything I love the animations on the lights on it too
plucky perch
ima try it! int ehmeat grinder
scarlet timber
But thats cuz it looks cook
plucky perch
you said mk5?
scarlet timber
Not that it's that great XD
YeH
It's better than others at flak killing than horde
plucky perch
ooh it does feel fun though
plucky perch
hmmm light attack chain doesnt repeatedly pound your targets noggin though
but the down ward chop is easier to land then the poke
scarlet timber
It's amazing at killing ragers
You do overhead special overhead
Special for its stagger
plucky perch
yeah the stagger wil effect even a t4 rager
not a knock down but a hard stagger non the less
scarlet timber
I feel like its way better in a pinch I don't know
Like you really need to kill elite fast or you die
It's very intuitive
To just overhead them
plucky perch
i think ill stick with the mk 4 if only because of how effective it is at cleaving multple pox walker skulls, already plan on running a good rolled surge staff
frank talon
This is my Psyker limited acquisition, are you serious Sir Melk
I stopped checking the Milk Store when they gave us the dev workshop last week
Saving all my Milk Money for the update
scarlet timber
i think ill stick with the mk 4 if only because of how effective it is at cleavi...
Well you know for poxwalkers
Just pull out your staff
I'm using voidstrike staff personally
It's good at killing hordss
frank talon
he just said he's running surge?
scarlet timber
Oh yeah thats true
frank talon
i am a voidstrike enjoyer too, however
haven't really hit any T5's yet though
so we'll see if that sticks
still trying to get comfortable on Hi-4's
plucky perch
every staff is entirely viable
surge staff allows you to deal with the gun sqauds a bit more effeciently ince you can blind fire but stun 8 and kill 2-4 depending on your luck
plucky perch
with out neednig to charge like with void strike and traumna and purg
spice veldt
mediocre against dreg but it does stun them
plucky perch
deals max damage to first two targets less to next two miniscule from there on
chains between 6-8 cant remember the next number
yeah can still be uncharged spammed into dreg gunners to kill them effectiently all the same, useless against hoards though
hence why i run the mk4 dueling sword now since it seems to excel against dreg and maniaca
then again, i dont play past t4
long orchid
Voidstrike is perfectly viable for t5, you just need a good roll and remember to charge it up near to full or fully during t5 on dregs/scabs.
celest hedge
i never used a high level voidstrike or tried T5 but I can see it still being good at clearing stuff
not my thing but real solid
north cradle
This is how I feel about Voidstrike at T5
slow karma
Just pull out your staff
Kinkyyyyyy
heady fog
slightly belated
cyan notch
damn
so much for that certain blessings roll on certain marks theory huh
never believed it from the start anyway
obtuse crypt
Me when I learned the animation cancel on the voidstrike staff after almost 500 hours of playing vet
still hearth
Voidstrike with good damage and radius roll
Radius is a lie
forest coral
Soon bristly, soon
still hearth
Actually I haven't tested it much so idk what it does to the projectile itself
forest coral
I just assumed it made the hitbox larger
still hearth
It's possible, another thing ti check
forest coral
I just wish there was an official index of explanation from fat shark on what each stat did lol
But for as long as I’ve used it I just assumed it was how wide the projectile would hit
still hearth
near wyvern
Actually I haven't tested it much so idk what it does to the projectile itself
Blast radius affects the explosion size when the projectile hits an elite/special or a static object like a wall. The roll is between 2m and 4m I think and the damage is poor. It's mainly adding suppression/stagger to enemies around where the projectile lands or can be used to supress ranged behind cover. Given the roll range and poor damage, it's not an important stat.
That is on void
terse saffron
it this good or just a shittier antax
near wyvern
For brutal momentum you need weak spot hits, VIII is very unreliable in getting those
still hearth
It basically requires you to repeat the Heavy 1 by resetting your combo over and over.
gloomy brook
rocky cedar
For brutal momentum you need weak spot hits, VIII is very unreliable in getting ...
Is it? You're not getting confused with Rashad?
Bigger problem for VIII is that like half its moveset is straight overheads
You can always spam push attacks but unlike light attacks push attack stops dealing damage after like the 4th enemy cleaved or something
ornate hamlet
urrgrre
west stream
hmmmmm
tiny belfry
Not something I'd use outside of speed runs, but curious can roll 80!
cyan notch
impressive, very nice
near wyvern
Is it? You're not getting confused with Rashad?
You are correct, my bad, VIII is fine yeah. The heavy swing is nice but I have found brutal momentum has an internal CD so it's very unreliable, sometimes when you heavy a head you cleave, other times it stops to the first head. VIII has a very versatile moveset tho. Only if the light spam would be a bit more horizontal it would be superb.
near wyvern
Not something I'd use outside of speed runs, but curious _can_ roll 80!
Still waiting to see a +3 stamina in my shop
tiny belfry
This is my 2nd +3, but the other wasn't 80
near wyvern
I have a +2 blue and don't want to upgrade it because I know +3 exists
tiny belfry
Paird with the 370 knife I found, I'm one speedy boi
near wyvern
You also have a decent perk roll on that so if you upgrade you can afford 1 roll to be bad
tiny belfry
I just hope I actually remembered to buy it after I posted it xD
near wyvern
Paird with the 370 knife I found, I'm one speedy boi
I use a knife as well, push attack with kinetic deflection is still broken even though crucian roulette was fixed
tiny belfry
Jumped straight into a mission
near wyvern
I can kill all trash mobs except dreg bruisers in 1 headshot heavy or push attack.
tiny belfry
that's awesome
near wyvern
Yup. Once we can roll 100% gear you can easily get a knife to one shot all trash heads.
tiny belfry
Oh phew, I did buy it 🙂
Anyone ever roll stam curious on damnation?
I usually roll toughness, but I'm kinda addicted to the speed rn
leaden thunder
I think pfheonix does
near wyvern
I use stamina, wound, toughness
leaden thunder
iirc he uses 2 hp 1 stam(3)
tiny belfry
Noted, thanks 🙂
Just tryna grind out my 25 mission weekly on lvl 1 so I can get back to the frontlines
near wyvern
I gave up on trying to do those
near wyvern
Mainly because I have 11k marks and Melk sells only shit gear.
leaden thunder
it's decent on pretty much anyweapon
near wyvern
Voidstrike
Yes
near wyvern
Allows you to get rid of the ranged a bit easier
obtuse crypt
weight painting issue 
leaden thunder
I think a decently rolled void doesn't need infested to one shot poxies on damn
near wyvern
Trash will anyway die on charged headshots
scarlet timber
So change its unarmored?
leaden thunder
doesn't*
near wyvern
weight painting issue <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
1 vertex is bound to wrong finger?
scarlet timber
Oh isee thx
obtuse crypt
1 vertex is bound to wrong finger?
eyup, thanks premium skin
at least i got the clown pants 
rocky cedar
You are correct, my bad, VIII is fine yeah. The heavy swing is nice but I have f...
The heavy has pretty bad damage falloff sadly so doesn't still kinda utilises BM worse than Antax lights sadly
leaden thunder
which one?
rocky cedar
Heavy 1
leaden thunder
this the rashad
rocky cedar
No it was the Achyls
leaden thunder
ah, that one, looks the best but feels the worst
once/if the rashad gets fixed i'll probably run that over the antax
near wyvern
Yeah rashad hits well but it's hard to find a head even though you are starting the swing in it
near wyvern
Then you have a duelling sword which finds heads even though you hit trough the A hole
rocky cedar
The lights on the Achyls look like they should do way more single target damage than the Antax but they only do a little more and only on crits/headshots
near wyvern
Antax is just too slow for me
rocky cedar
Achyls should decimate single target looking at its moveset
But it just doesn't
Comparatively to the other combat axes that is
dull flint
Hey guys, can you help a new psyker main?
What weapons are Best-In-Slot/META? Melee and ranged?
I'm looking to join my friends in heresy and damnation.
any help with feats and perks/blessings would be great!
safe crystal
Surge for CC, purgatus for horde clearing. For melee, you'd want something that complements your choice of ranged weapon. I run 1,2,1,1,1,2 as talents on purgatus, with mkV dueling sword.
leaden thunder
axes are very good melee wise
tbh efficecny wise Ithink they are better then dueling swords, force swords or the catachan claws
you just need to make sure you have BM on it
force sword you "need" deflector on it to make it really worth using outside of fun factor
though if you get slaughtere ron the force sword it becomes good
becuase slaughterer is broken
some of this my opinion, but the sluaghterer thing isn't
safe crystal
On purgatus, you want a high burn and cloud radius stat, the dump stat is damage. Warp nexus is a great blessing on it, im currently running +flak +crit chance as perks
tiny belfry
Surge for CC, purgatus for horde clearing. For melee, you'd want something that ...
Why trade the 10% warp charge chance for 2 extra warp charges?
The purgatus makes it so easy to keep the cycles up
cursive crest
force sword you "need" deflector on it to make it really worth using outside of ...
I spent a lot of time looking for that deflector blessing. Theoretically it is good, until you find out that if you get caught by shooters, you just want to run fast under cover, and not parry because you are slowed and cant take all that fire
safe crystal
Why trade the 10% warp charge chance for 2 extra warp charges?
Because AB deals significantly more damage with 6, and i benefit more from warp resist on tier 2 talent
I use AB to deal with shooter hordes if no one else is doing that, them living an extra 5 seconds might count
tiny belfry
Do you just BB 6 times before going in then?
limber silo
What classifies as a "Salvo" in reference to Opening Salvo and Sustained Fire blessings?
safe crystal
Nah, warp communion and AB. I get them passively very quickly
tiny belfry
You run damnation I assume? I'll give it a shot
I feel I'm always out of toughness so I was too scared to get rid of that 10%
safe crystal
Hi5's, but havent launched the game this week at all. Theres just no point before theres something new
cursive crest
Essence Harvest : Replenish 30% Toughness over 5 seconds on gaining Warp Charge.
Does it stack ?
safe crystal
No,it resets the timer if you get a new one
limber silo
Do you guys prefer Essence Harvest or Warp Absorption for purge?
safe crystal
I feel I'm always out of toughness so I was too scared to get rid of that 10%
It really depends on the ranged weapon you run. Purg generates a LOT of warp charges during hordes, and communion amplifies it. I would run flayer instead for surge, for example, instead of battery
tiny belfry
Do you guys prefer Essence Harvest or Warp Absorption for purge?
I like harvest
Yeah I run purg
near wyvern
Hey guys, can you help a new psyker main?
What weapons are Best-In-Slot/META? M...
All the staves are good. Purgatus is a bit out performing compared to the rest. Gun psyker is viable but severely behind the staves. On Damnation only infantry lasguns are a choice, the rest don't have good enough ammo economy. For lower difficulties you can get away with anything.
For feat choices, it's quite flexible. Psychic Communion is a simple feat but it isn't as good as it sounds, don't sleep on Psykinetic's Aura which is in the same tier, only use communion if your build really needs it.
For toughness regeneration talents your options are Essence Harvest (BB and purgatus builds) or Quietitude (Surge, Void and Trauma). Warp Absorption is not good, it only gives you toughness when you are winning, in which case you don't need it.
For ult feat choice Ascendant Blaze and Kinetic Barrage are the options, Quickening is garbage.
The staves in general are:
- Surge, high elite/special CC low damage
- Purge, excellent horde clear and good CC near the user, bad against ranged crushers and bulwarks
- Void, good horde clear on a long line, good vs ranged, mediocre CC vs elites, bad against bulwarks
- Trauma, good CC and damage vs everything but limited AOE and high peril generation
For melee, anything goes, just remember non-force weapons (ranged and melee) have fast auto quelling. The usual choices people run are:
- Combat Axe Mk V, good horde and elite clear, slow mobility, combine with Kinetic Deflection
- Force Sword, very defensive with infinite dodges, obliterates single enemies
- Duelling Sword Mk V, decent vs hordes and elites, good vs mutants, good mobility
- Combat Blade, good mobility, high and safe single target damage with push attack spam, pair with Kinetic Deflection
tiny belfry
Do different melees block a different amount of damage?
near wyvern
Oh and gun psyker is very viable while leveling. The staves get only better with levels and playing on higher difficulties
dull flint
All the staves are good. Purgatus is a bit out performing compared to the rest. ...
Thank you, that was very well typed and explained!
near wyvern
Do different melees block a different amount of damage?
I know the clock cost scales with max stamina for some reason
safe crystal
Depending on the weapons stamina, yes. Some are better at it than others, but you rarely want to be blocking, its preferable to use the stamina to push instead, or dodge. There are some exceptions
tiny belfry
gotcha
Gonna miss my +8 stam now that I swapped it back for toughness on damnation 😦
limber silo
Bruh, why'd I get this on Psyker
near wyvern
Thank you, that was very well typed and explained!
Oh and one more thing, voidstrike is the only staff that is really roll dependant. You want transfer peril on that, preferably a 3% or more. Pair that with the inner tranquility feat and you can just shoot for days even with 4 warp charges.
dull flint
Oh and one more thing, voidstrike is the only staff that is really roll dependan...
Got it, thanks!
near wyvern
Bruh, why'd I get this on Psyker
Time to play gun psyker
celest hedge
maybe it's been awhile since I used it but I felt like the combat axes were completely terrible against hordes with their swing patterns and fire rate. One shotting stuff felt nice as a basic sword/tactical axe user but it just didn't feel good to use, especially compared to a chain weapon for single target damage mixed with good general use
celest hedge
Do different melees block a different amount of damage?
a block should negate any damage you would have taken from the attack, but different weapons have different stamina and different block costs. All can reduce damage to 0 but each one can block a different amount of damage before you can't really block anymore
tiny belfry
Yeah, I know block reduction scales with toughness percentage, just wasn't sure if there was a difference between a 100% Toughness knife vs blade block
thanks
limber silo
Time to play gun psyker
Fr dude, I prefer recon or auto pistol on gun psyker tho
devout crater
what should I reroll my second perk on this to? I'm not sure what breakpoints this can meet if any
still hearth
what should I reroll my second perk on this to? I'm not sure what breakpoints th...
https://dt.wartide.net/calc/ plug the values here
Carapace, Maniac or Unyielding is most likely though
tawny swallow
whats a tox ogryn on this?
long orchid
reroll to unarmored
north cradle
Not a bad roll, too bad it's on my Sharpshooter
Maybe I'll keep it for the guaranteed, scaling Emp's Gifts
mellow raft
Psyker and Ogryn the only chats on subject
Per usual
More importantly, Force staff blessings, what should I aim for
mellow raft
Trauma preferably
leaden thunder
Trauma you want rending shockwave and warp flurry(that's the one that increases charge speed iirc)
north cradle
Yeh
leaden thunder
blazing spirit could be funny, but probably isn't good
north cradle
I honestly think DoT on crit is only really useful for Ogryns and Monstrosities
leaden thunder
rending shockwave goes up to 8 rend
that's actually pretty nuts
it this site is right
focused channel could also be good
limber silo
blazing spirit could be funny, but probably isn't good
don't you get the ab proc chance as long as the enemy is soulblazed when it dies?
limber silo
true
leaden thunder
it's also like only 1 stack
limber silo
FS: Makes 50% of psyker tree benefit/afect soulblaze
Also FS: Makes only one decent soulblaze weapon
leaden thunder
if it was a lot more stacks it'd be cool
arctic rampart
Trauma becomes so much better with 6xperil resist that I would never pick the ultimate that consumes the warp charges. Especially not for a low chance soulblaze blessing.
limber silo
I think it'd be cool if the 2 handed FS had a special where it ignites the blade and guarantees blaze
arctic rampart
With 6 warp charges and 25% maniac you can 2-hit ragers. Flak ragers I think you can 2 hit regardless.
near wyvern
but you'd have to not kill them with a crit
This is an acknowledged bug
I made the report a week or two ago
leaden thunder
I didn't even think it was a bug tbh
but if it is that's fun
that could be a fun set up to try once it gets fixed
maybe not great
but could be fun
near wyvern
Well, if it was not a bug what's the point of the blessing. It's not like a stack of soulblaze is going to do any meaningful damage.
leaden thunder
man
some of the blessings are pretty fucking pointless
so it wouldn't suprise me
arctic rampart
There's a whole talent that gives like 2 stacks. And yes, it is pointless. Like many of the blessings.
leaden thunder
ogryn's single shot weapons can roll a couple of "continuous fire" blessings
near wyvern
Anytime 2024 am I right
arctic rampart
"Hidden Potential"
near wyvern
There's a whole talent that gives like 2 stacks. And yes, it is pointless. Like ...
Yeah the Wrack and Ruin or whatever it's called. It should either apply 6 stacks on kill or 2 stacks on BB hit regardless of target type and if it is a killing blow or not. At the current state it's hotter garbage than a melting tire.
leaden thunder
3-4 stacks and applies regardless of target
near wyvern
Yeah the gain 5% crit chance on dodge for a couple of seconds is funny when you have shred and slaughterer in the game
limber silo
Get yourself a Trauma/Voidstrike Staff with +5% crit and and T4 Warp Nexus and at 100% peril you have a whopping 30% chance to proc a 10% chance to get a Warp Charge! That's ridiculously high 3% chance to get something!
arctic rampart
Anything less than 6 stacks would never really be worth it.
limber silo
If the damn thing worked as intended
near wyvern
Get yourself a Trauma/Voidstrike Staff with +5% crit and and T4 Warp Nexus and a...
Psychic communion with 4% on any kill made by a player within your coherency says hello
Yea even if it worked it is not as strong
BUT
limber silo
Seriously. You need mega dream luck to get something shittier than a feat
near wyvern
Combine with Psykinetics aura, AB, Kinetic Flayer and how the current stacks work and you might get yourself some use out of it.
arctic rampart
How about different primaries for the staves, huh, wouldn't that be something?
limber silo
Combine with Psykinetics aura, AB, Kinetic Flayer and how the current stacks wor...
I know you're playing devil's advocate, but that's sad
near wyvern
How about different primaries for the staves, huh, wouldn't that be something?
How about getting rid of the useless melee special attack and giving it an alternate spell cast. Melee swap is instant so by the time you use the special you could have switched to melee and cleaved.
arctic rampart
Now you're just being crazy. Why should we get to have useful special attacks?
You clearly have not understood Psyker design!
limber silo
They made any special that isn't a chain or fs almost useless
near wyvern
Right, I'll go back to my grave and cover myself.
limber silo
The best special not on those things is a fucking flashlight
near wyvern
las pistol special tho
It seems a bit weak tho. Does it knock dogs off from players?
arctic rampart
TBH most specials on melee weapons are great for pushing that poohead rager off of you.
leaden thunder
no idea
limber silo
It's actually a decentish shove
arctic rampart
The special on staves is... yeah... so bad that it's difficult to understand why it exists.
leaden thunder
there is a couple of bashes/bashlikes that are ok
limber silo
One time I saw an argument that heavy sword special is decent for speeding up heavy combos
near wyvern
The special on staves is... yeah... so bad that it's difficult to understand why...
Imagine a company spending money to do those animations and all just to create a useless 2 chain attack that no one will ever use.
leaden thunder
they have mega stagger
most the time
can stun lock a rager with the tac axe special
limber silo
Imagine is the surge special was a stun gun hit so you could do with it at least
arctic rampart
Imagine a company spending money to do those animations and all just to create a...
But they saved so much animation money by copying 95% of movesets and animations from their previous games. Had to spend the animation budget on something.
leaden thunder
some of the animations are pretty sick
near wyvern
One could have just bought ice cream
leaden thunder
the revolver reload is cool as fuck
limber silo
I'm perfectly fine with them c-v ing animations for weapons
no need to make new ones if the old ones were cool
but the lack of promised weapons sucks
near wyvern
the revolver reload is cool as fuck
I just find it hard to believe how you can pour out just the bullets you need while the others that are not fired still stay on the wheel
near wyvern
The combat blade animations tho 🔥
arctic rampart
It's the 42nd century, man. Like... magical bullets or something.
Meanwhile, axe is still best weapon.
limber silo
I just find it hard to believe how you can pour out just the bullets you need wh...
Vet asks us to use the warp to keep the good ones in when he dumps
near wyvern
Vet asks us to use the warp to keep the good ones in when he dumps
Ok now I accept it
arctic rampart
Revolvers are completely obsolete now, imagine how old-timey you have to be to use a revolver fourty thousand years from now.
leaden thunder
and pump action shotguns
limber silo
"Hey freak, do you mind?"
summons the power of Hell to hold a few tiny pieces of metal
"You're not too bad Witch"
limber silo
Revolvers are completely obsolete *now*, imagine how old-timey you have to be to...
Revolvers are definitely not obsolete
Who told you that?
arctic rampart
....
near wyvern
I am also impressed by the people's ability to hold that .50 cal bolter that stabile
arctic rampart
They're obsolete in the same way bolt action rifles are obsolete. Yeah, you can still kill stuff just fine with them. You wouldn't wanna chuck 20 guys with bolt actions vs 20 guys with full auto rifles though, now would you?
near wyvern
It doesn't even have a stock
limber silo
They almost never jam, and are easy to maintain
near wyvern
They're obsolete in the same way bolt action rifles are obsolete. Yeah, you can ...
Yeah you wouldn't. The difference in fire power is like 1:10
arctic rampart
They almost never jam, and are easy to maintain
Yeah which is why all police in all the world still use them. Oh... they don't.
limber silo
Yeah which is why all police in all the world still use them. Oh... they don't.
That's because the police need something fancy and expensive to waste money on
arctic rampart
Obsolete doesn't mean useless. But they are obsolete.
It's as simple as 20 rounds with the option for red dot, laser and flashlight, vs 6 rounds and no options.
near wyvern
Hunters use them, but that's because you only need 1 bullet so there is no real need for an automatic weapon.
limber silo
Then you could say standard pistols are obsolete because stronger weaponry with higher capacities exist
arctic rampart
Hunters use them, but that's because you only need 1 bullet so there is no real ...
Right and they tend to use revolvers in silly calibers. With, like, scopes on them.
limber silo
Why have a deagle when I could have a machine gun?
They serve different purposes and have different redeeming qualities
arctic rampart
Then you could say standard pistols are obsolete because stronger weaponry with ...
There's... a difference between a sidearm and a combat rifle. Much like there's a difference between a battle rifle and a carbine. Different weapons for different jobs.
But sure, show me any police or military force in any modern country that still use revolvers.
arctic rampart
Why have a deagle when I could have a machine gun?
No one in their right mind would have a deagle.
limber silo
Why do I give a fuck about the cops? I'm talking about myself and other civilians here
arctic rampart
I mean, sure if you have lots of money, buy a deagle for fun. You certainly aren't buying it for practical self defence.
limber silo
Snubnoses are easy to conceal and can kill someone just fine. In fact, if you have a pistol and try to shoot someone point blank, it won't fire, but a revolver will if someone's on top of you
idle bay
I like round numbers... Few more days and i'll get that frame 🙂
And i don't do speedruns
limber silo
The fact that I can have a revolver in my pocket and nobody would ever know is such a benefit that it alone makes snubs worthwhile
arctic rampart
Right, small frame pistols don't exist, I guess. Anyway you're completely missing the point. They aren't useless, but they are obsolete for any military purpose whatsoever, and for most civvie purposes too.
And people that fly down from a spaceship to kill thousands of nurgle boys aren't civvies.
limber silo
I don't think you know what obsolete means
arctic rampart
Fine let's call them obsolescent instead, then.
limber silo
The fact that revolvers are manufactured and still serve viable purposes, even in the Warhammer universe by definition means they aren't obsolete. I agree that a revolver in war is a little silly for a foot soldier to have, but if I were a Guardsman with access to whatever my preferred weaponry was via the Inquisition, I'd use what I'm comfortable with
Also @tiny belfry As soon as I swapped to Essence Harvest my fucking rng went down the drain
Got like 3 wcs total in a full horde
tiny belfry
Also <@270765375606489098> As soon as I swapped to Essence Harvest my fucking rn...
So, EH is better, or are you saying you like the other more?
leaden thunder
I like EH on purge and quietude on other staves
chrome dune
Hot take: I think Brain Burst needs a nerf.
I love my Jimmy Neutron like crazy, but I think the main reason this class feels underpowered is because BB is so strong.
Who wants better staffs in exchange for BB needing line of sight?
Maybe other subclasses will swap out the BB for something else?
leaden thunder
BB is not that strong
it take so much longer to kill specials/elites then jsut shooting them
the only benefit is that you can do it out of LoS
and it doesn't even one shot a lot of them higher up
at least with no warp charges
chrome dune
BB has infinite range, 1- to 2-shots most Elites in 3 seconds. At least I’ve found it’s way faster than most other classes who have to move toward a target and/or put up with accuracy.
tiny belfry
It's not nearly as strong on damnation as malice
chrome dune
Maybe I play too much malice. It’s still strong on Heresy.
safe crystal
BB has infinite range, 1- to 2-shots most Elites in 3 seconds. At least I’ve fou...
Sure, now take XII and do it in less than a second on damnation, then do the same with BB in 8 seconds.
leaden thunder
in the time it takes for you to kill 1 shotgunner with bb, I can kill like 4-5 as vet by shooting them, or control them as zealot, same deal with ogryn
and 2 out of the 4 staves are very good
purge is jsut a slightly worse flamers on a better platform for it
surge can make the game a joke when used properly
chrome dune
I can’t use it properly tho, am derp 🙃
leaden thunder
and the flamer is literalyl the best weapon in the game
safe crystal
BB is strong, but scales badly the higher up you go. The last buffs made it around where it should be, maybe a bit too slow
leaden thunder
so having a "worse" version of it is still really good
like BB's main benefit over grenades for other classes is it's functionally unlimited
but those grenades are often times more useful in the senarios that end runs
zealot's is a free revive, vet's clears outs hoards (though it starts to throw them around instead at higher levels) but it's still aoe control
ogryn's is probably the most comparable, but it does so much more damage as far as I can tell
chrome dune
So we need STRONGER Jimmy Neutron?
leaden thunder
more o r less
safe crystal
If it was a drain instead of a instant pop, it would feel a lot better tbh
chrome dune
If it was a drain instead of a instant pop, it would feel a lot better tbh
Toughness vampire? 🧛
Team Edward post-crafting, me likey! Big poggies!
safe crystal
More like drain the health constantly with the same charge time as right now, so when the vet eventually sees the blue light flashing somewhere and shoots at it, it doesnt feel as stupid to have used the time to brain burst something
leaden thunder
maybe like how rev works
where it has a rip at the end
so it still "pops"
but has some damage before then
safe crystal
Yeah, like that, for example. It'd feel so much better instead of leaving you with nothing at 75% charge
tiny belfry
I just tried 131132 with purgatus and it felt much tankier
Not tanky, cause psyker, but tank_ier_
basically maxed out EH uptime
limber silo
So, EH is better, or are you saying you like the other more?
I'm saying as soon as I put essence harvest on, it was proc'd rarely
I know it's not your fault, but it's funny to me
chrome dune
I just tried 131132 with purgatus and it felt much tankier
Hmmm been considering Wrack and Ruin more considering the potential (if minor) cc, and the other two are relatively weak.
fierce sinew
not sure if trolling but wrack and ruin is dogwater and tranquility is universally useful
olive ember
north cradle
Check out this Emp's Gift I got
Limbsplitter's not so bad on a Mk V, right? Because most people tend to push-follow with it anyway?
long wharf
that's precisely why Limbsplitter is genuinely good for mk v
north cradle
Done and dusted
Last one to actually try to do is Flawless Execution 3
Everything else is killing heretics, completing missions, and picking up teammates
dull flint
If I use MK V Combat axe with brutal momentum blessing, what should the 2nd blessing be for best in slot?
lethal folio
Headtaker/Shred/Decimator/Thrust.
long wharf
If I use MK V Combat axe with brutal momentum blessing, what should the 2nd bles...
mk v best blessings are limbsplitter and brutal momentum
because of the mk v push attack
hybrid zephyr
What blessings should I look for on Surge staffs?
I got one with Warp Nexus and another with Warp Flurry
maiden wolf
Revolvers are completely obsolete *now*, imagine how old-timey you have to be to...
French special forces would like to know your location
I managed to get "On Overwatch" on my 7th mission as Veteran, I feel like all my time playing psyker has trained me for this moment.
For anyone wondering, I was running knife and revolver
slow karma
Seems odd that someone else got dragged in here yesterday for saying limbsplitter is BiS on Antax and yet spicy seagull gets overlooked.
maiden wolf
because of the mk v push attack
I prefer spamming light attacks and only blocking when I have to, but for maximum safety, that's a good choice.
The great thing with quietude and KD is that you can take fighting breaks and just block like, 50 attacks to build peril before going back to slaying
north cradle
Revolvers are completely obsolete *now*, imagine how old-timey you have to be to...
Own a stub rifle for home defence, since that's what the God-Emperor intended.
Four ruffians break into my house. "What the daemon?" As I grab my powdered wig and Hax-Orthlack.
Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot.
Draw my Scipio on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbours Grox.
I have to resort to the autocannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off Centaur alarms.
Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified heretic.
He bleeds out waiting on the Arbites to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up
Just as the God-Emperor intended
pine relic
A zealot was complaining my psyker didn't pop the sniper, I was literally drowning in the horde and the zealot was refusing to use his flamer
limber silo
mk v best blessings are limbsplitter and brutal momentum
You're trolling
lethal folio
Limbsplitter and BM are opposite builds.
limber silo
Limbsplitter imo is just bad in every scenario. Even with push spam, I can't see it being better than anything other All or Nothing
north cradle
It's like stacking Slaughterer and Executor
rare furnace
Do you think that mask would be good with my armor? Maybe I need to buy drip
rare furnace
I have the golden skul mask
north cradle
I just want that collar by itself
rare furnace
MAKES ME like a fantasy dude
rare furnace
Do you think that mask would be good with my armor? Maybe I need to buy drip
This gives me Star Wars old republics sith vibes
rare furnace
I just want that collar by itself
The other available collar is too big
north cradle
There's more than one collar like that?
rare furnace
I want the breather mask with our hood or a preacher hood
north cradle
That's the Imperial Edition one, isn't it
half iron
every collar is baller
rare furnace
Ah I see
Cool
So 25€ for imperial and we get the only back pack in game hmm maybe worth idk
north cradle
It's a half a skull bandana like OIF/OEF veterans wear
rare furnace
I think they should release just the breather for all characters
It feels bad that your ogryn doesn’t get a big boy variation
And it’s like only for 3
north cradle
The only Docket items I wear is the default Psyker hood with a neck gaiter, and navy blue pants
fierce sinew
limbsplitter + BM is the best combination on mkv, trolls out in force today
if you don't personally enjoy the optimal play pattern for the weapon that's fine and everything
lethal folio
Why would you use both?
fierce sinew
because you get the bonus damage all the time
lethal folio
but they have no synergy.
rare furnace
For the push?
fierce sinew
the push cut is always the first
lethal folio
Antax push attack already has good cleave, and limbsplitter ruins your light chains for BM'ing crowds.
fierce sinew
right, hence my other comment
lethal folio
And you don't want to use push attack for horde clear.
fierce sinew
if you're mashing light attack with the antax you're just using it wrong
lethal folio
Light attacks have far superior horde clear
limber silo
Idk how it's confusing
Brutal Momentum = Amazing CC
Limbsplitter = A single good swing, then everything else is shit
lethal folio
BM doesn't add anything to the push attack
fierce sinew
it increases the number of bodies hit so that you can do it with impunity
lethal folio
Push attack already cleaves 8+ without BM, but you can only damage three.
fierce sinew
if you ever use the non push attacks you animation cancel to keep bonus
lethal folio
BM doesn't change anything
leaden thunder
this is correct
limber silo
if you ever use the non push attacks you animation cancel to keep bonus
you have 1-4.5 seconds of infinite cleave and you want to spend half of it NOT swinging?
leaden thunder
BM only changes the amount of enemies you "hit" not the amount you can damage
fierce sinew
you have 1-4.5 seconds of infinite cleave and you want to spend half of it NOT s...
it's infinite all the time, it chains into itself in horde
lethal folio
Why are you using push attack on horde when you have BM.
leaden thunder
it takes like a couple of seconds for headtaker to reach the same power as limbsplitter but you can use other attacks wihtout faf
fierce sinew
headtaker you half to build up, limbsplitter is always active, and has additional utility with heavy attacking non-horde enemies
lethal folio
Headtaker is up in one or two swings.
fierce sinew
I'm not sure if this is trolling or just malice andies
leaden thunder
?
limber silo
Yes, Limbsplitter is always on if you do extra work instead of just spam lights, which works amazingly
fierce sinew
Yes, Limbsplitter is always on if you do extra work instead of just spam lights,...
yeah, if you don't want to do the micro to use it that's fine, but it's still better
limber silo
Why are you guys using melee
Average psyker
lethal folio
Push attack is only better horde damage when you are hitting exactly three.
still hearth
Melee is for poor people that haven't accepted the religion of fire.
lethal folio
by about 8 per swing
fierce sinew
push attack is mainly what you do while you passive quell to resume flaming
still hearth
Passive quell
limber silo
Melee is for poor people that haven't accepted the religion of fire.
You are the reason the stereotype about psykers flopping like fish as soon as someone gets within 5 feet of us is a thing
limber silo
But just quell
Yeah, I quell while doing damage with my melee weapon
fierce sinew
limbsplitter + BM optimizes your output while doing that. It's not complicated
lethal folio
What do you think BM is doing here?
leaden thunder
also tyr is correct about the interaction with the push attack
if you are spaming that there is no reason to use bm
lethal folio
Because it isn't giving you extra damage, and barely improves your control because the pushattack already has very high cleave.
limber silo
limbsplitter + BM optimizes your output while doing that. It's not complicated
"Come on guys, you gotta believe me! If you put extra effort into a suboptimal playstyle than you can come out even eventually." 🤓
fierce sinew
Because it isn't giving you extra damage, and barely improves your control becau...
"barely improves" is an improvement
still hearth
Doing 1 more damage when you're doing 300 per swing is also an improvement
lethal folio
If you are swinging into a horde so dense that you are hitting 10 units per swing, why are you using the attack that doesn't do cleave damage.
limber silo
Dude, either stay with Limbsplitter and get a better secondary blessing for pushes, or stick with BM and get something better for light spam
fierce sinew
you'd still use limbsplitter all the time if you could regardless of BM
still hearth
I mean you're forced to use it
leaden thunder
^
fierce sinew
the only cost is your micro
limber silo
No I wouldn't because I like not having -25% power
lethal folio
Do you think the push attack does more horde damage than a light?
Because that would explain a lot.
leaden thunder
if it was like
+100% power of the first attack
i'd give it to you
but since you can run something that is super easy to stack
for the same amount of power
fierce sinew
the other attacks never happen, it's just +n% power
leaden thunder
wiht no downsides
still hearth
And if you're not using weapon swap cancels
fierce sinew
you heavy attack reset crusher
still hearth
You're doing less DPS
Than just swinging
You probably lose DPS using limbsplitter overall
limber silo
You are putting far too much effort into a very simple and effective weapon
fierce sinew
you also hit one shot breakpoints (though fewer now)
still hearth
If you could reliably weapon swap in Damnation then it'd be better
fierce sinew
why can't you?
still hearth
But the server lag eating your weapon swaps means Limbsplitter can't even macro
Because our servers are shit
leaden thunder
even then that's so much work for such a little amount of gain over headtaker
still hearth
limber silo
Okay, with a decent mk5 I can hit breakpoints for just about every trash mob. If something can survive that, I heavy and then I still get one shots
not even a good one, a decent one
leaden thunder
I think don't heavy muties btw
iirc it does less damage then lights
at least for one of the axes
limber silo
And then if see anything bigger than a hound, I can just spam heavies and kill it mega fast because it's an axe
fierce sinew
I mean bulwarks, before the patch killing them in one bb to move the shield + one headshot was something that required limbsplitter in damnation
things like that
lethal folio
For things like that you bring a thrust axe.
limber silo
I think don't heavy muties btw
Yeah, muties you light spam
fierce sinew
people really oversell how difficult canceling is
limber silo
They take tons of melee damage
limber silo
people really oversell how difficult canceling is
It's not difficult, it's just more effort than NOT animation cancelling
fierce sinew
and of course you don't heavy muties, they take less damage from heavies kek
still hearth
Canceling is a DPS loss unless you macro it
Well you can weapon swap I guess but ain't nobody got time for that
Either way
Just do whatever
Antax is busted
Its like arguing about blessings on the flamer
fierce sinew
it is just very overtuned compared to the alternatives
limber silo
Is there any reason, any reason at all to take Quicken?
still hearth
For fun
limber silo
Is losing your stacks fun?
limber silo
That's what I thought
still hearth
From outside
Yeah its absolute garbage
I've written a lot about how its so counterproductive
You want stacks to get CDR
But then you use those stacks
And then you get your shout back but you don't have stacks
So like.. thanks?
Now I'm back at square one
And I'm not running AB so I don't even get stacks from hordes
lethal folio
It's not even that good an ability without tagging barrage or blaze onto it.
Even a 6 charge shout doesn't do that much stagger,
limber silo
It needs a secondary thing on top of it
still hearth
It just needs
limber silo
Like AB has
limber silo
Like, Quicken also reduces charge speed by x% for x seconds
lethal folio
There's the 4 psyker cdr stack joke build for all the shouting all the time.
fierce sinew
it seems like the design intention is to do some cute shit with aura and chaining shouts together, but for a version of the game where charges don't matter and bb kills things on its own reliably
still hearth
Malice balance
fierce sinew
yep kek
limber silo
I would take Quicken if it let me throw Voidstrike balls like they're primaries, but otherwise no
still hearth
Yeah that's why
Let me spam staff
That seems to be the intended purpose anyway
And it works well with Quietitude
But then it eats your stacks???
And those stacks are more valuable for the peril resistance anyway
Its just such a poor feat
limber silo
Yeah, WC seem like they're more for resistance than for their actual damage
shut ether
I think ult CD is actually really viable
leaden thunder
limber silo
Laspistol + Saber = Psyker who REALLY doesn't want to exploded himself
You know, gun psyker could be decent if there were any high peril generating melee weapons but all we have is the one sword that is almost impossible to overheat with
lethal folio
The core issue is psyker's janky toughness feats.
limber silo
If we had a lightsaber that was just made of warp juice we could have a single reason to pick up a gun
hexed sage
What are good perks on the voidstrike staff?
still hearth
Unarmored and Flak
hexed sage
Thanks
cyan notch
warp abs 
rption
limber silo
Unarmored and Flak
unarmored is mostly unnecessary
flak is nice tho
as long as you can headshot, unarmored is kinda a waste
still hearth
It's to make you save charge time
Which is basically the only benefit you get for void
limber silo
Do you not have a decent damage roll?
still hearth
Since its pretty ass at anything else imo
limber silo
Mine one shots trash with uncharged
still hearth
Even with a max damage roll you need full charge to oneshot dreg shooters iirc
limber silo
I use flak + infested on mine w/ 73% roll
works just fine against anything that isn't elite or a rager
still hearth
It's all about the TTK on priority targets for me.
And you won't oneshot elites anyways basically
limber silo
That's why I run FS with it. oneshot things close with special, kill bigguns w/ BB far
low onyx
lmfao
restive slate
Sad if not a single Deflector
limber silo
lemme guess, deflecor or slaughterer
restive slate
Oh wait there's one lol
north cradle
Me expecting to have to break down four Votive Blessings to make one powered up Blessing to Re-Bless an item
limber silo
Not a thing anymore
north cradle
Yup
limber silo
They're getting rid of fuse blessing
north cradle
Just like how items were supposed to get linearly more expensive to Refine
I mean, could you imagine?
limber silo
Painpeko
north cradle
If I wasn't Fatshark, I'd have you pay 300 Plasteel and 100 Diamantine every time you want a new Perk, but you can pick that perk. But it starts at Tier 1. And then you pay more to upgrade it to T4.
Having costs rise for random perks would make me shit your pants
long wharf
I like how when people write "gunker", I can reasonably pronounce it "junker"
north cradle
So what does Savage Sweep actually do? Is it Cleave Targets, or Cleave Damage?
cloud sequoia
emperor trolling
pine relic
I'm struggling with V and IV duelling sword.
long osprey
Found this, which perk should I change?
bleak wing
Found this, which perk should I change?
I'd change Specials -> with the purgatus they're not priority Nr.1
pine relic
V is a maniac killer but weak against armour and horde, IV is good at clearing the horde and against armour but deals less damage to maniac.
long osprey
I'd change Specials -> with the purgatus they're not priority Nr.1
Was thinking of putting unyielding on it just for the bulwarks
bleak wing
Was thinking of putting unyielding on it just for the bulwarks
Yeah I like that too on my burnstick :)
floral solstice
I'd change Specials -> with the purgatus they're not priority Nr.1
i'd change specials to crit chance
oh wait wrong reply
@long osprey was gonna reply what i wrote to you
pine relic
I wouldn't change any perks. that damage for purgatus staff is not significant as other weapons.
cyan notch
if damage isnt significant why wouldnt you change the damage perks to something more useful lol
eternal dagger
Hey guys, can anyone help me with Malleus penance please? There's lights out currently, you just need to bring Ogryn
north cradle
Dope
eternal dagger
I can do the same for you, if you need
north cradle
I already have all the Penances done
eternal dagger
Ugh, the board switched on the mourning star, now it's Damnation only
Ah, I mean, it doesn't even have lights out on heresy/dam now
north cradle
Next time
eternal dagger
You can still add me, I've sent you a pm with my steam profile
cloud sequoia
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/VUJ99p3iteACw/d13373jVhlC0?invite=cr-MSxjUEYsMTcxNjM1ODE3LA trauma search light
cyan notch
impressive, very nice
also trauma vs stairs moment
another stupid thing with trauma
spice veldt
accessibility ramps for trauma users
rare sand
Lol
pine relic
restive slate
Transfer Peril for Trauma is such a troll
cloud sequoia
i want increased max cast range for trauma
rocky cedar
All the staves are good. Purgatus is a bit out performing compared to the rest. ...
I know I'm very late to this but I reckon HH III probably has the ammo economy to be a good choice for gun Psyker now, and BB mostly covers its weaknesses pretty perfectly.
long orchid
Idk if transfer peril on trauma even works. I got a 5 percent blessing on it and it doesnt even work lmao